[02:00] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: was traveling, I'm home now though if you still need to chat
[04:36] <JoseeAntonioR> so I guess I just lost the only backup of socloseyoucanalmostbobbleit.com I had when reinstalling my system
[05:48] <smartboyhw> JoseeAntonioR, !?
[06:59] <dpm> good morning all
[06:59] <smartboyhw> Hello dpm
[06:59] <dpm> hi smartboyhw, good afternoon :)
[07:01] <smartboyhw> dpm, :)
[07:43] <smartboyhw> Hey dholbach
[07:43] <smartboyhw> Your fingers are OK now?
[07:43] <dholbach> good morning
[07:43] <dholbach> hey smartboyhw
[07:43] <dholbach> no, still swollen
[07:43] <dholbach> but I'll survive :)
[07:43] <smartboyhw> dholbach, :)
[15:10]  * dholbach relocates - brb
[15:36] <smartboyhw> jcastro, http://www.jorgecastro.org/2013/07/01/share-your-infrastructure-win-a-prize/ :O
[15:36] <smartboyhw> How does a person who doesn't know anything about juju compete in this?
[15:37] <popey> learn juju ☻
[15:38] <smartboyhw> popey, meh
[15:39]  * smartboyhw isn't sure a 14-15 year old (a.k.a him) can handle this
[15:39] <popey> juju is trivially easy to learn
[15:39] <popey> I learned it, so it must be.
[15:41] <smartboyhw> Hmm, I need a cloud for this, uh hum
[15:41] <smartboyhw> popey, I can't join then:P
[15:41] <popey> no.
[15:41] <popey> You don't "need a cloud" to learn juju
[15:41] <smartboyhw> popey, but to set up juju in my computer,
[15:43] <popey> yes.
[15:43] <popey> http://popey.com/blog/2013/06/24/trying-out-tiny-tiny-rss-on-hp-microserver-via-juju/  <- look, no cloud.
[15:44] <smartboyhw> popey, you bought a microserver, I don't have.
[15:44] <popey> you can run it on a laptop
[15:45] <smartboyhw> popey, how?
[15:45] <popey> i happen to have it running on a server in that example
[15:45] <smartboyhw> I can't even juju bootstrap
[15:45] <smartboyhw> Since I don't have the necessary configs.
[15:45] <popey> https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/getting-started.html
[15:45] <popey> like that
[15:46] <smartboyhw> popey, I mean, which one should I be configuring for?
[15:46] <popey> https://juju.ubuntu.com/get-started/local/ might be useful.
[15:48] <smartboyhw> popey, Note that this currently works on older version of Juju (.6 and ,7) and does NOT yet work on Juju 2.x. These instructions are for Juju .7.
[15:48] <smartboyhw> I WANT NEW JUJU
[15:48] <popey> alan@deep-thought:~$ apt-cache policy juju | grep Installed Installed: 0.7+bzr628+bzr631~raring1
[15:48] <popey> you do not need new juju
[15:49] <dholbach> smartboyhw, wow, it might help to do a bit of calm research if you want to win in the contest :)
[15:49] <popey> +12
[15:49] <smartboyhw> dholbach, I'm not going to op for winning
[15:49] <smartboyhw> I just mean to have fun:)
[15:49] <smartboyhw> And anyways, sleep time
[15:50] <dholbach> good night smartboyhw! :)
[16:06] <smartboyhw> jcastro: Wait, the JuJu championship rules state: If one is under 18 but over 13, I need to contact Canonical. Why?
[16:06] <smartboyhw> And how?
[16:06] <jcastro> if you're underage you need your parent's permission
[16:06] <smartboyhw> :O
[16:06] <jcastro> because we can't give money to minors without paren't consent
[16:06] <smartboyhw> Now that's a problem:P
[16:07] <smartboyhw> Can I still win with no prize money?!
[16:07] <smartboyhw> …
[16:07] <jcastro> I don't see why anyone would want to do month's of work for no prize money!
[16:07] <smartboyhw> jcastro: I would. As I said, I'm for fun only.
[16:08] <smartboyhw> But anyways, where's that parent consent form? (Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr)
[16:08]  * smartboyhw hates such things.
[16:08] <jcastro> it isn't you just contact me
[16:09] <smartboyhw> jcastro: BTW, when I fill in the form provided by Canonical why is the deadline 15th August?
[16:09] <smartboyhw> jcastro: What?
[16:09] <smartboyhw> :O again
[16:10] <jcastro> where does it say 15 August?
[16:10] <smartboyhw> jcastro: Um, let me give you the link...
[16:10] <jcastro> FOUND IT
[16:11] <jcastro> ok fixing!
[16:11] <smartboyhw> jcastro: That frightened me, I would have no time if on 15th August
[16:12] <smartboyhw> jcastro: So seriously, my parents contact you?
[16:12] <smartboyhw> …………………………………………
[16:18] <jcastro> well
[16:18] <jcastro> if you're not going for the prize money
[16:18] <jcastro> you don't really need to do anything
[16:19] <smartboyhw> jcastro: Tell me the prodecures at least...
[16:19] <jcastro> I am confused
[16:19] <jcastro> what is it you want to do?
[16:21] <smartboyhw> jcastro: The prize money thing...
[16:22] <jcastro> ok so if you want to be part of the contest you need your parent's consent
[16:23] <smartboyhw> jcastro: yep
[16:26] <jcastro> ok so mail me jorge@ubuntu.com and we can start the process
[16:29] <smartboyhw> jcastro: sent
[16:30] <jcastro> got it
[16:30] <jcastro> I'll have someone get back to you asap
[16:32] <dholbach> all rightie
[16:32] <dholbach> I call it a day
[16:32] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow!
[16:32] <jcastro> \o/
[16:32] <dholbach> :)
[16:33] <jcastro> I am on holiday now, see ya all later!!!
[16:38] <pleia2> enjoy, jcastro :)
[17:09] <bkerensa> nigelb: The fox is out of the bag ;)
[17:10] <nigelb> bkerensa: indeed
[17:10] <bkerensa> nigelb: looking forward to meeting you in October
[17:10] <bkerensa> :)
[17:10] <nigelb> bkerensa: Yes! Me too :)
[17:11] <nigelb> And hopefully pleia2 as well since it's somewhat in the area.
[17:11] <nigelb> s/it/she/g
[17:29] <popey> bkerensa: interesting looking device
[17:29] <bkerensa> popey: one of many to come :)
[17:30] <bkerensa> nigelb: yeah... I have to go down to the SF office next month so maybe I see pleia2 then
[17:30] <pleia2> it's hot here right now, so don't come now :)
[17:31] <philipballew> pleia2, You should come to Auburn Wednesday. I see we are gonna have a high of 106.
[17:31] <nigelb> lol
[17:31] <pleia2> philipballew: no thanks :)
[17:31] <nigelb> hah
[17:31] <pleia2> 80s is high enough for me
[17:31] <pleia2> (and gets hotter in my condo)
[17:31] <nigelb> top floor?
[17:31] <philipballew> for non Americans that is 42
[17:31] <popey> ouch
[17:32] <pleia2> nigelb: 11th of 16
[17:32] <nigelb> I've been in 50.
[17:32] <nigelb> It's horrible.
[17:32] <pleia2> well, india :)
[17:32] <philipballew> nigelb, Yeah, the worst is when there is humidity.
[17:32] <nigelb> There was a collective groan in the plane when the captain announced the temperature.
[17:32] <pleia2> it was humid in NYC last week, but at least places have AC ;)
[17:33] <philipballew> When I fly into Sacramento tomorrow morning I have my airplane clothes I wear to stay worm on the plane and then a change of clothes to change into before I leave the airport so I do not die waiting for my ride in jeans.
[17:34] <philipballew> I'll probably go to the mall or a coffee shop and beat the heat. Both have free wifi and food.
[17:35]  * popey wishes we had some of that heat
[17:35] <popey> *some*
[17:35] <popey> http://popey.com/webcam/  current conditions here
[17:36] <philipballew> popey, I would be glad to share a good twenty five degrees.
[17:36] <popey> hehe
[17:37] <nigelb> please tell me UK weather is good at the moment.
[17:38]  * philipballew considers calling "Fahrenheit" "Muricans" from now on.
[17:38] <philipballew> here in Mexico City though it is a nice 18/64
[17:39] <pleia2> that's just not fair
[17:39] <popey> nigelb: see webcam ☻
[17:43] <philipballew> Checking into a flight is a waste of a time when I am checking a bag anyway. Not sure why I am checking in...
[17:48] <philipballew> Delta even called me and asked me to.
[17:50] <nigelb> philipballew: Isn't there a different queue for baggage drop and check-in?
[17:50] <pleia2> nope
[17:50] <nigelb> The last time I checked in for a flight online, I had zero queue for baggage drop, the check-in on the other hand had a huge queue.
[17:52] <philipballew> My guess is they just want my passport info to prove I am alright to travel on the plane or something.
[17:54] <philipballew> For a neighboring country, it is always a pain to get back into the states from Mexico. US customs always asks a bunch more questions. Canada is a much nicer experience.
[17:54] <nigelb> No
[17:54] <nigelb> That's different.
[17:54] <nigelb> That's Advance Passenger <something>
[17:54] <nigelb> You can do that without checking in.
[17:55] <nigelb> I tend to fill that up before flying.
[17:55] <nigelb> Less time spent at the airport counter.
[17:56] <philipballew> nigelb, you might be right. Maybe it is to see who is an American citizen or not since they have to look at all the Mexico passports coming onto the plane and check the visa?
[17:56] <philipballew> odd though. But I have not flown Delta in over a year.
[17:58] <nigelb> No, idea.
[17:59] <philipballew> The world is strange
[18:02] <bkerensa> pleia2: how hot? its been 95-97 here since Friday... supposed to be 104 tomorrow
[18:02] <bkerensa> ;p
[18:15] <pleia2> bkerensa: only 80s, but it gets hot in these buildings without ac
[18:17] <bkerensa> pleia2: yeah hopefully SF Moz office and my hotel have good AC :)
[18:29] <jono> balloons, will be a min and then will be there
[18:29]  * balloons hangs ten