[02:34] Good morning Noskcaj [02:42] afternoon smartboyhw [05:08] Good morning [06:55] pitti, when can you finish the questions and e-mail it to me? :) [06:55] smartboyhw: certainly this week [06:55] pitti, alright, thanks! [07:29] Good Morning :-) [07:34] Hello DanChapman. [12:54] Guys, classroom session coming up in 7 minutes! === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:02] DanChapman, hey, my sesssion starts now! [13:03] ok 2 see you there [13:07] balloons, hallo bad guy, can have the right link for xmir testing ? [13:10] njin, THis one to install MIR http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/installing_prebuilt_on_pc.html and this one is the testcase http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/298/builds/47541/downloads [13:14] DanChapman, thnaks [13:14] thanks [14:13] smartboyhw / balloons sorry for not being there for the classroom sessin. The computer at my Dad's works has died (hard dsk failure). [14:13] phillw, balloons isn't also:P [14:13] * balloons notes he is hiding [14:47] phillw, are you still here? [15:04] hey balloons :-) [15:04] Hey DanChapman [15:04] welcome to July my friend :-) [15:05] Is it july already??..... :-0 so it is!! [15:06] indeed! [15:06] happy july [15:07] hello knome! [15:08] balloons did you see the 2 bugs I added today for screenshot and evince? [15:09] DanChapman, why yes they're right on top :-) [15:09] they passed ok if you run them seperately but if you ran the whole suite of tests together they have a meltdown. [15:10] wild.. and that's production, so that's no good :-( [15:10] do you have a moment to take a look at them? [15:12] Yeah no problem at all :-) [15:13] sweet. I imagine with pitti's fixes we might be able to do some things better now [15:22] Happy July philipballew DanChapman balloons knome [15:24] smartboyhw, Thank you [15:24] :) [15:24] And phillw and elfy [15:41] ping balloons. Juhapekka is on holidays this week. Can you get another person from the sdk team to review the two pending branches? [15:41] elopio, ping me again in 5 :-) [15:41] elopio, sure though.. We can ask Florian for help [15:42] elopio, Kaleo = Florian. Let me introduce you [15:43] that'd be great. I know nobody from those projects, it feels for me like they come from a separate company :) [15:44] intros have been made irc style :-) [15:44] balloons, LOL [15:47] smartboyhw, I marked your work item done in the blueprint for the classroom session :-) [15:47] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-s-quality-growth [15:47] balloons, thx === Claudinux_ is now known as Claudinux [16:21] balloons: I'm just in the initial stages of installing a brand new Win 8 desktop machine.... Hmm, this is *fun* :/ [16:21] phillw, I just wanted to share there's a fb page now :-) http://www.facebook.com/UbuntuQuality [16:22] I thought you might be especially keen.. Seems fb lets you have org pages, and since not everyone uses g+, well, it made sense to have the more timely content appear on facebook as well [16:23] phillw: Use Win 8.1 [16:37] elopio, cool, so you got one review in? :-) Also, did you see the link I sent about adding in slider functions? [16:38] balloons: yes, lets see if the lander bot doesn't complaint about the 'needs information' comment. [16:39] and I saw your email, I have here on my TODO for this week. [16:39] :-) [16:39] on friday I tried to make an emulator for the popover, but found nothing really worth it there. [16:40] I think a better approach would be to start writing emulators for the gallery project in ubuntu-ui-toolkit. [16:47] gallery project? [16:48] balloons: yes, there's a gallery of the components provided by the ui-toolkit. [16:48] with tests [16:49] I think I can use that to find some common things that will be useful as emulators. [16:49] ahh, tocha [17:07] balloons: help =), I was in the middle of my classroom session and ClassBot removed me the voice, my session was suppose to last 1 hour but it only let me write 30 minutes [17:07] chilicuil, ahh! [17:07] sure thing [17:25] anyone interested in reviewing a small bith of plainbox code: https://code.launchpad.net/~zkrynicki/checkbox/signal/+merge/172367 [17:45] hi [17:45] i want to run test -cases [17:46] but i dont know the steps for that [17:46] where do i start ? [17:46] i signed on launchpad [17:46] installed bzr [17:47] and downloading 13.10 daily build of ubuntu [17:47] juggle, ok so if you want to run testcases and report results, you can do so using the qatracker [17:48] let me send you a few links to help you get started [17:48] ok i am waiting for links, thanks for your help [17:49] This is the QATeam wiki page if you haven't seen it :-) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam [17:49] Here [17:49] Here's the page you need on the qatracker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/QATracker [17:50] This week is week 2 for our cadence testing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Cadence/Saucy/Week2 [17:50] So basically there are 2 basic things to test.. an image or a package [17:51] once you've downloaded the image you can test it using the testcases found here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/270/builds [17:51] there are links at the top of the page that will help you [17:51] If you like video explanations, your still in luck: http://www.youtube.com/qualitybecomesyou [17:52] ok i joined the ubuntu quality team on launchpad [17:52] i will continue with other links [17:54] perfect, just ping if you get stuck anywhere or something is confusing :-) [17:54] ok i will do :) [17:54] if no one is around, feel free to pm me anytime [17:54] i'll get the message whenever I'm around again and follow-up with you [17:57] ok, thank you [18:04] evening [18:05] evening elfy [18:05] evening elfy [18:06] balloons: you have email :) [18:06] phillw, I saw the fb post.. [18:06] we know have a better outlet for everyone to discuss since there is an org page [18:07] afaik.. ali is also a part of the new org page as an admin.. But since I have access to a presence on fb now I can share with everyone :-) [18:07] I assume it's similar to a community vs a page on g+ [18:09] balloons: do you want me tell everyone to move>? [18:09] - > [18:10] phillw, no no, as far as I understand it everything is as it should be. The difference is one is an organization page vs a community page. You can't "join" the org page [18:10] fb will be the death of me! :P [18:10] but it should mean the stuff being posted about what's going on in quality can now be easily shared with the community and discussed [18:11] phillw, lol.. ali is perhaps the best one to explain it [18:11] he's happy seemingly with the addition, so I consider it a good thing [18:11] I'll leave all that stuff to him :) [18:11] :-) [18:12] he's admin on the community page as well, so can tweak settings as needed :) [18:12] is it ok to install saucy salamender release on virtualbox [18:19] juggle, indeed. In fact there's a neat tool called testdrive that helps with this [18:20] juggle, we just had a session on it; http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/06/29/%23ubuntu-classroom.html#t20:31 [18:20] have a read through :-) [18:25] i read, first i will install saucy salamender on virtualbox then i will install testdrive on virtualbox right? [18:28] juggle: no, testdrive can be installed in your hardware machine, it will launch virtualbox with the most recent ubuntu development version [18:29] got that now, thank you chilicuil [18:29] i am installing testdrive now [18:32] how to add existing installed iso to the testdrive ? [18:32] add ISO button is disabled on it [18:33] Sync button seams to install full iso again right ? [18:35] juggle, if you manually downloaded an iso and want to add it to the cache check the cache folder [18:38] ok i guess it will be possible with File + Open and selecting the iso [19:28] balloons, ping [19:28] DanChapman, pong [19:28] * balloons notes ping pong is fun [19:30] balloons, :-) i've added a comment to the evince bug rather than right an article here. Can you take a look for me https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/+bug/1196535 [19:30] Launchpad bug 1196535 in Ubuntu Autopilot Tests "Evince - troubles creating test PDF and searching document" [Undecided,New] [19:33] DanChapman, I have the answer to that actually [19:33] we should just include the test pdf in the branch [19:33] add it to the source directly and use it [19:33] make sense? [19:34] thats a good idea balloons !!! [19:34] I know we make many temp files, but I'm thinking adding the files needed to the source directly is probably the better way to go :-) [19:34] :-D [19:34] you live, you learn :-p [19:34] I agree [19:36] RIght well i'm calling it a day for today, but i will get them done tomorrow. Also do you want ubiquity in the production branch? [19:40] DanChapman: we want ubiquity tests in lp:ubiquity as that's where it's developed. unlike other projects, ubiquity is ubuntu-upstream =) === pgraner is now known as pgraner-afk [20:21] DanChapman, what xnox said :-) Same as with the core-apps, since we have the upstream available to us, let's push them there :-) [20:27] DanChapman, that said, it will most certainly be a part of the smoke testing, so if it's ready, let's get it committed and get it added in :-) [20:51] Letozaf_, Noskcaj evening and morning to you [20:51] morning balloons [20:51] i've made (slight) progress in getting a testdrive hangout. [20:51] i was just looking at that this morning [20:52] what news do you have? [20:52] Dustin supports the idea, he just needs a time that howard and i will be online. Andres still ignores me [20:54] elopio, so are we stuck waiting a week for the second part of the merge? I see the toolbar and tabs pieces went in. Where does that leave us in the meantime? Should we keep with the status quo for now? [20:55] Noskcaj, ahh.. well, 1 dev is all you need, so :-) [20:55] balloons: just the toolbar landed. The second branch is the tabs. [20:55] and we first have to wait for this to be packaged and released on the ppa. [20:56] balloons, hello [20:56] ok, so status quo probably for another week.. :-( Kind of makes me sad but I know you'll keep hacking away making the initial version just that much better :-) [20:57] balloons: I can also update some existing tests. For example, the ones in the files app just use the toolbar. [20:57] Letozaf_, hope you've been enjoying some time away it sounds like ;-) [20:57] ohh.. I didn't think any were that simple :-) [20:57] balloons, yeah, pitty holidays are ended :) [20:57] balloons, anyway the fun is here now :) [20:58] and we can extend the number of custom emulators this week, so Juhapekka gets to just review. [20:58] there's no time lost :) [20:58] elopio, right you are [21:01] * Letozaf_ realizes it's late ... wow, see you guys tomorrow :p [21:07] knome, this looks neat: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stylebot/oiaejidbmkiecgbjeifoejpgmdaleoha?hl=en [21:09] balloons, i'm using both the web developer and firebug extensions for FF which pretty much both do that and more :) [21:10] knome, I figured.. just thought.. hmm.. a novel idea, I'm guessing knome does this and a lot more [21:11] hehe [21:11] why doesn't devede support multiple dvd menus :( [22:54] @balloons: Hi Nicholas, can I ask you something? [22:54] slickymaster: Error: "balloons:" is not a valid command. [22:54] slickymaster, go for it [22:55] regarding my xfce4 panel testcase. I've been looking to your branch but to be honest I can not say if it's right or not, so I think it would be best just tom push it again [22:57] my question is: is there any thing in particular I should do? Or do I simply push it to my branch? [23:00] balloons: I'm not sure if you saw my question [23:06] slickymaster, I have an xfce4panel test branch? [23:06] it's late here :) [23:06] if you want to use code from another branch you can merge it, or just branch it yourself and modify it manually [23:07] sorry, over here is almost Tuesday, but since I've been away for two weeks I'm trying to catch up on things [23:10] It's a bit confusing. I'm David and I wrote the xfce4 panel testcase that got screwed up because it got out of sync after Jackson giant nerge [23:11] and in your last post you advised me to push a new branch to merge it [23:23] slickymaster, ahh.. I'm pretty sure that was all cleared up [23:23] let's just go check shall we? [23:24] and how do we do it? [23:24] https://code.launchpad.net/~slickymaster/ubuntu-manual-tests/xfce4panel [23:24] https://code.launchpad.net/~slickymaster/ubuntu-manual-tests/xfce4panel/+merge/169295 [23:25] ahh your right I rebased your branch for you [23:25] lol. [23:25] at this point if you know the changes you want to make, grab a fresh branch of the head and make the changes and re-submit the merge request [23:25] slickymaster, ^^ [23:26] if I understand you correctly, I have to create a new branch and the just have to push my file to. Am I right? [23:41] balloons: sorry Nicholas how do I do grad a fresh branch of the head and re-submit the merge request? [23:42] slickymaster, there were edits made to the file made by someone other than you, so bzr wants you to review those edits [23:43] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/view/head:/testcases/packages/1562_xfce4panel%20tests [23:43] are your edits in there? ^^ [23:43] so you can't just push your version as-is.. The rebased version was my attempt to take your edit's and jackon's edits and put them into one file [23:44] I realize this might all be really confusing to you [23:44] so if that's the case, the simple thing to do is pretend nothing happened in the past [23:44] no that's a prior version of it [23:44] grab the branch and make your edits again [23:44] submit for a merge [23:44] :-) [23:45] that's what I'm not getting. How do I grab the branch? [23:45] bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual-tests [23:46] this is the version i did [23:46] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-manual-tests/xfce4panel-rebased/view/head:/testcases/packages/1562_xfce4panel%20tests [23:46] if that looks good, then you might be all set [23:46] and bzr status? and then bzr commit and after that I just have to,push it, tight? [23:46] right? [23:47] I think I got it. I'll push it in a few minutes to revision [23:48] balloons: thanks a lot for all your help Nicholas [23:53] balloons: It's already proposed for merge, Nicholas. Once again I thank you for all your help [23:54] :-) [23:54] excellent [23:54] no porblem slickymaster sorry it turned out to be a bit confusing :-) [23:54] I blame Jackson :-p [23:54] balloons: no problem, I got to learns something new [23:55] balloons: I'm going to finish xfce4settings testcase by the end of this week, and I'll pick up another one to to after that [23:56] excellent.. welcome back :-) [23:57] balloons: see you. best regards === salem_ is now known as _salem