[06:34] hey TheOpenSourcerer [06:34] how are you today [06:52] Morning folks ! [06:55] hey redtape|renegade [06:55] how are you [06:58] Not too bad .. maybe I will get a £899 macbook air like you said (from PCWorld) .. sometime this month for Ubuntu .. although I hear it works with debian too. [06:58] Morning all. [07:00] knightwise: Still there ... | Good morni TheOpenSourcerer .. sour day here weather wise so far. [07:00] looked sunny when I left , but all cloudy now [07:00] decided to be bold and throw LMDE on my machine this morning [07:01] still have to reconfigure the system to get everything working. [07:01] the macbook air ? [07:01] nope , on the work machine , [07:01] macbook air is running 12.04 [07:01] right oh. [07:01] Nice here this morning. Sunshine and quite warm [07:01] want to give "rolling releases" a try and get a little closer to debian to expand my knowledgebase of OS'es :) [07:01] morning TheOpenSourcerer [07:01] \o [07:03] redtape|renegade: Working on a new podcast episode for tonight "Making your mac slider friendly" [07:03] where i focus on bringing linux and osx a little closer together [07:03] knightwise: I dunno if you like looking at 3 days old logs but if you scroll down to 19:38pm (on the log : http://bit.ly/11TBMJQ ) & click the two Links you'll see my new project for Africa. [07:04] (joint project actually) but I'm paying for it. [07:05] Arch on a 50 bucks netbook ? [07:05] Awesome ! [07:06] right but the test machine cost £29.00 Whereas the actual netbooks (v. poss. x150 of them ) are £5 each .... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271221443278&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123 [07:07] anyway .. I've said too much .. [07:08] I'm counting my dinosaurs before they've hatched .. or however it goes . [07:08] redtape|renegade, don't buy a mac for linux. just don't [07:08] let me know how it workds out [07:09] directhex: correct there [07:09] knightwise: Definately. [07:09] e.g. half the ports won't work [07:09] directhex: As i wrote in my post for HPR : this is no longer the default [07:09] however on the mb air its screaming fast [07:09] directhex: Even on debian .. knightwise is that troo. ? [07:09] redtape|renegade, linux. not ubuntu, not debian, linux [07:10] there are no drivers for lots of apple's shonkiness [07:10] at all [07:10] I think i bought my last mac (at least for a non production workstation) [07:10] got a second hand lenovo 11.6 inch couple of months ago [07:10] now running LMDE on it. Amazing little machine [07:10] just need to shove an SSD inside it [07:10] you might be okay, as long as you e.g. never want to attach any external displays [07:11] Right so . just to be certain here before I part with £££'s .. you are telling me that a modern macbook air using debian or Ubuntu is a complete No-No ... ?? [07:11] oh ok . so it may e ok now ? [07:12] come on ppl .. make yur minds up. [07:12] let me put it this way [07:12] redtape|renegade: Newest macbooks + latest released ubuntu might be problematic [07:12] i have budget control over IT at my company, and apple hardware is banned [07:12] directhex: because £ or because Linux? [07:12] i've aready got one person whining "waa waa waa i bought a macbook pro, but it doesn't work for what i need it to do, waa waa waa" [07:13] so wants me to say "oh, never mind, i'm happy to waste £1k5 of my budget to replace it with a lenovo" [07:13] MartijnVdS, the latter [07:13] redtape|renegade: mine works fine under ubuntu 12.04 but it is a lot of money [07:13] that sounds more like a company internal issue than a test driven competance test with the macbook air in question. [07:13] you are perhaps better of buying a different ultrabook from a brand like samsung or acer [07:14] but they are quite procey too [07:14] you have already made your purchasing decision [07:14] and no amount of us saying "it won't work fully" will change your mind [07:14] But i want a macbook air .. i <3 them. [07:14] so enjoy your mac [07:14] redtape|renegade: why not then , the form factor is indeed awesome [07:14] what OS are you planning on running ? [07:15] there are plenty of ultrabooks on the market with more conventional hardware, i.e. which don't screw up with linux. we've had success with the lenovo x1 carbon [07:16] lenovo's are indeed quite pretty too [07:16] I suppose i could back up the macbook air and try it to see .. and if it doesn't work then re-install OSX and get a refund via ebay/paypaL .. i WANT TO RUN 14.04 WHEN IT COMES OUT. [07:16] soz 4 caps .. oops. [07:17] I do /perhaps/ also like the idea of a YOGA-S ,... the orange one .. saw it on youtube 3 months ago. [07:18] I think it's Lenovo.. [07:18] redtape|renegade: beware . if you want the bleeding edge on apple hardware .. its tricky sometimes [07:18] but that's only if macbook air is being a silly billy with me. [07:18] windows 8 touchscreens do not work in linux yet [07:18] afaik [07:18] last i checked, there were no drivers [07:20] oh ok then. I will await a good blog entry as I scavenge the blogosphere .. (wow I'm using big words at 8am .. must be the Alpen porridge :) ) [07:21] Do we still adverise Hen-cams on this channel ? (webcams) .. [07:21] **advertise .. [07:22] anyway .. let me know when i get back .. yahoo finance has just updated .. my millions in the virtual a/c needs me .. [07:23] redtape|renegade: you are looking for a good post on how to install ubuntu on a macbook air ? [07:31] knightwise: I've already seen yours .. thankyou .. I also found the debian version of a similar Ilk .. but if you see one other than these By all means .. pass it on to me. :) [07:41] OT : Just found a new word that seems pertinent. | YUGOSPHERE | Apparently it has been assimilated into the EU as of today .. (i.e. **Croatia** ) :: яedtape welcomes our new Croatian cousins to Ubuntu ! Hurrah \o/ [07:53] morning all [07:54] Morning all [07:54] howdy MooDoo I see the Pirillo has quietened down since Laaandon.. [07:55] good morning [07:58] redtape|renegade: yeah not seen a lot, we must of worn him out. [08:12] .. MooDoo I think he forgets his travels soon enough .. he's 40 AFAIK. [08:13] Anyway .. I've a Linux Firewall question .. prob.ly won't get anywhere but here goes .. [08:17] Does anyone know of a 'black box' (lit.) piece of hardware that snoops on all incoming and outgoing traffic on a home computer that you use as a firewall .. As Far As I recall it was called Zorg or Zork (not the game) or something and it was very 'Defcon' like (as in the conference) as it was American .... I'd just ike to know how there product worked out in the end. It basically sniffs out... [08:17] ...your network. (?) [08:18] I'm probably cometely 'off' with the name thou [08:19] ipcop might do that, redtape|renegade [08:20] * redtape|renegade scans for ipcop .. [08:21] in any case, you could setup a silent proxy and just log everything, I'm sure there are instructions for that for most firewalls [08:22] tcpdump -i eth0 > traffic.log [08:24] Can also use wireshark on the cli as well ? [08:24] Lots of ways [08:24] mmm-Ok I was looking for that particular hardware company (as I found them in 2006) .. but the WebLink you gave is interesting solution . thanx. [08:25] did anyone get a message from giffgaff over the weekend saying their payment details has been updated? [08:29] not me mungbean .. mobiles don't suit the traa-dy-lioarr .. Can't wait till the Über phone takes shape here though. .. I hear the Ü-tele division is pretty much spun - out . [08:30] nurse, more pills over here plaese [08:31] mungbean: Nope, had something last week [08:31] my goodybag recurrence had been turned off [08:31] good morning everyone, [08:31] i did change my gooddybag last month though [08:33] oh.. [08:33] * diplo checks his account [08:33] morning brobostigon [08:33] morning diplo [08:34] aloha [08:34] morning czajkowski [08:35] Good morning peeps :) [08:35] morning bigcalm [08:36] Hmm, looks ok to me mungbean, last updated 17/6 and next one is there ready [08:36] payhback confuses me [08:37] i had some to claim, but now it says 0 points (probably for this season) but i didn't claimthe old point yet [08:37] there was an email about that a while ago i think about it being reset ( financial year maybe ? ) [08:38] f you don't make a selection during the selection window, points will roll over to the next points period. If they are not then claimed during the following selection period they will expire. [08:38] they were in the last period so should be ok [08:38] Good morning all, happy Second Half of the Year Day! :-D [08:39] * Laney shivers [08:39] hay fever [08:40] JamesTait: that's contrived! [08:40] xnox: where were you on saturday! I wanted to grumble about online-accounts and Touch :) [08:41] BigRedS, I can't disagree, but that seems to be the general case with these things. ;) [08:41] haha, surely *something* more notable is celebrated on the 1st July... [08:42] * BigRedS watches as his morning disappears into wikipedia [08:42] It's Rwandan independence day [08:43] JamesTait: apparently it is Scott and Charlene's silver wedding anniversary. Isn't that a better thing to celebrate today? [08:45] bigcalm, for some definition of "better", sure. :) [08:47] BigRedS: I was at http://londoncommunitypride.org/ instead. [08:48] BigRedS: bug you can grumble about online-accounts and Touch to me anyway =) [08:48] haha [08:49] I've found that if I don't use them they're less irritating :) And my Touch is a community-port installed on broken hardware [08:49] so it seems unfair to grumble too much about that :) [08:50] BigRedS: morning [08:50] you not grumbble [08:50] surely not [08:50] czajkowski: Goood Morning! [08:50] I saw someone grumbling online about a particular company not being at the San Fransisco Pride march, not sure why they expected a software company to be there, though. [08:50] xnox: oi you! [08:51] czajkowski: I don't *always* grumble! Sometimes I'm using Debian :) [08:51] then you grumble elsewhere :) [08:51] czajkowski: dammit. rumbled :) [08:55] dwatkins: seriously? [08:56] MooDoo: yeah, I thought it was a bit pointless to complain like that [08:56] dwatkins: +1 sounds daft to me [08:56] dwatkins: it's my birthday next year, i'll be well miffed if canonical aren't there. ;) [08:56] Since starting to follow Twitter for work, I've learned that people like venting. [08:57] haha, I mostly use it to vent [08:57] "Curse you $COMPANY, your software doesn't work properly on my 6 year old Windows XP machine" etc. [08:57] everybody's angry online nowadays [08:57] twitter more so [08:57] indeed, mungbean - it's a minefield [08:57] "A bunch of volunteers made this in their spare time and they didn't finish it! The charlatans!" [08:57] angry liberals are angry [08:57] OMG i just installed Ubuntu and there are 400MB of updates, you're software sucks..... [08:58] getting annoyed at free software developers is insanely rude, imho [08:58] anyway, I have to go see my manager about ciroc classes, back later ;) [08:58] somebody on Question Time has a different opinion to me. disgusting! [08:59] OT : I was listening to 'Code Club' of the Ubuntu Uk Podcast last week and found this video ::: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxhGIajRsq4 ::: Don't worry it's safe for work, but best viewed on a bicky-break. [08:59] mungbean: to be fair, the only reason to watch QT is to get annoyed at it [08:59] it's Jeremy Kyle with the occasional politician [09:00] i never watch it but jut see angries on twitter ranting [09:02] politics seems to attract the dullest and the weirdest types [09:02] mungbean: its format is very populist - basically they get two opposing-but-not-informed sides to have an argument [09:02] with occasional input from a livid audience member [09:09] redtape|renegade: I'd not seen that, it's excellent, thanks [09:11] * redtape|renegade likes Question Time , except for David Dimleby is a toff. Does anyone not get 'irked' by him ? popey, yur welcome .. [09:15] xnox: you had lovely weather for it! [09:18] yeah, was good. [09:22] popey, here's the blog, sorry to leave it out .. ::: http://laurakirsop.com/post/44287953611/still-the-funniest-thing-ever#_=_ ::::: [09:23] ta [09:27] bit of an overkill popey, but here's the press review (to put on the back burner) :: http://laurakirsop.com/post/44284927193/press#_=_ :: Right, back to the ironing of anorak/s === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [09:58] wow, scp has tab completion on the far host :-| [10:00] yeah, i keep being surprised by that [10:03] I'm guessing that only works if you're using keys and they are already unlocked [10:04] yeah [10:04] Or if you've the shared master session thing going on [10:05] RSS feeds | What happened ? https://twitter.com/ianvisits/status/351290357650178050 [10:05] davmor2: ello............. so on new install I have some U1 quirks [10:07] davmor2: http://ubuntuone.com/3xVucjp27NPPL2EcndZeg2 ever seen something like that [10:07] BigRedS: probably why i didn't notice [10:07] before. but when i tabbed it prompted me for the key password in a separate window :) [10:08] haha [10:09] redtape|renegade: not much happened to RSS. An online RSS reader has been closed down === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [10:14] mgdm: do you know of a Fiona Burrows in the PHP community? [10:15] anyone know of a HPC cluster admin looking for work? [10:19] HPC as in high-performance computing? [10:19] Whereabouts, mungbean? [10:19] london [10:19] Morning all [10:19] queue manager, xcat provisioning [10:19] maybe cloud/openstack in future [10:20] aw shame, I'm 450 miles north of there [10:21] any mailing lists i should publicise it on? [10:21] linuxjobs [10:21] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/linuxjobs [10:22] got a couple of weirdos before apply via there [10:22] but would try again [10:22] hah [10:22] think i'll investigate hpc lists [10:22] one guy, all he was interested was how little he could get away with working [10:22] (he'd probably fit in here) [10:23] no names metnioned as you might even know some of them [10:23] blimey [10:24] Wow, my sister is hiding her pregnancy well https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1001157_10152999200325096_1833102372_n.jpg [10:25] what, going abroad so you don't see it? [10:25] * dwatkins still can't quite believe he got a job through Gumtree [10:25] a "job"? [10:25] carrying a "package"? [10:25] haha, no, enterprise support job [10:26] why were you even looking on gumtree for a jbo? [10:26] I'd searched everywhere else that you normally look. [10:27] the timing was getting troublesome, suffice to say I wanted to move as soon as possible up here to Edinburgh [10:27] it all worked out well in the end, at least until after my ex started her course at uni, but that's another story ;) [10:28] :( [10:28] it's all good, we're still friends, I kept custody of the hamster and the rats [10:30] how does it work if the person offers to post stuff on gumtree? [10:30] there's no contract as such [10:30] I assume you should secure payment before providing the goods [10:31] brb, giving a colleage a send-off [10:32] RELOAD! [10:32] Oh, not that kind of send-off? [10:33] how do i contact a gumtree persion? [10:34] via their mobile? [10:37] i can't even list all ads by a seller. weird [10:56] fail. i'm in london and taltalk fibre is not available [11:02] the streets are paved with gold; laying fibre is *really* expensive [11:25] come to the Netherlands === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [12:13] i keep getting spammed about it by them [12:14] ohh just seen someone wear a pair of Google Glasses here! so want to try them! [12:16] ask them ☻ [12:16] i know some people are fine with letting people use their Google Glass. [12:16] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1Zc1rsGFJI [12:16] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctzc8QSF6mQ [12:16] ^ google glass video reviews [12:17] popey: I intend to after this talk [12:17] look rather cool tbh [12:18] oh spotted a UDS raring ringtail t-shirt in the wild [12:19] probably a canonical person ☻ [12:22] czajkowski: I'm betting mfoord is there [12:25] it's not dimitier [12:25] as she's rooming wiht a mate of mine keith from ireland [12:25] small world [13:06] [13:06] [13:06] [13:06] :) [13:06] Book had been leaning on the space bar I guess :) [13:19] diplo: BooK? http://search.cpan.org/~book/ [13:27] mgdm: ping [13:29] .c [13:30] MartijnVdS: :) === emmy is now known as Guest62865 [14:43] who'd have thought trying to give the bank money would be so hard? [14:48] wondered why the map looked weird. somehow i was using bing maps [14:49] google maps is changing soon [14:50] the new interface is quite good [14:51] in what way is it changing? [14:51] it uses more of the screen realestate, and I think they've cleaned up the way it looks [14:53] https://cloud.supermatt.net/public.php?service=files&t=8b56026d577c42a76228282d62eed566 [14:56] it generates locally [14:56] rather than using cloud hosted tiles [14:56] eats the cpu and caused graphical corruption here [14:57] ah, no wonder it goes so much slower [14:57] closed screen after "request an invite" [14:57] stupid hype [14:57] i deactivated it [14:57] gave feedback? [14:57] dear googz stop being crap [15:00] wow, lots of xbox 360 coming up on teh selling sites [15:00] wildly varying prices [15:04] y'mean ebay? [15:04] well, the facebook local equivalent [15:04] I guess people are trying to get money for an Xbox One [15:04] i'm on a few buying/selling/home clearance stuf on fb thats v local, to avoid postage [15:04] xbone! [15:05] mungbean: yes, gave feedback to upstream dev [15:05] my wife is on a "local mummies" group on facebook. it's very interesting. lots of varied content [15:06] pretty much what I'd expect on forums [15:06] but all nicely locked up inside fb [15:06] yeah, it's mostly chavs and mums [15:06] selling clothes, baby stuff, mobile phones, laptops, etc [15:06] this one is more people asking for help [15:06] i bought a wii fit, and a massive lego pirate ship recently [15:06] like "my child wets the bed, what do I do" [15:07] yaeh, shes on that too, its a bit "daily mail" scare stories etc [15:07] opionated mums [15:07] the buying and selling page is good though [15:07] type buying and selling in ... [15:07] the moderation is terrible, loads of spam/crap [15:08] there should be a geek version , but there's not a local one [15:08] there's also a free stuff one [15:09] the only one near me is buying and selling animals! [15:09] u infarnham? [15:09] farnborough [15:09] farn* [15:10] "- NO GUNS, KNIVES or WEAPONS of any kind [15:10] " [15:10] no chavs [15:10] "only one bump per 24 hours" [15:10] jeez [15:10] bumps [15:10] all the things i've bought smell of smoke [15:10] keep forgetting to check [15:11] aaargh.. "if your going to bump" [15:11] aha, found one [15:11] "Members (1,301)" [15:11] there's diamonds i a lot of rough [15:12] * redtape|renegade pokes daftykins [15:12] so if you are in a facegroup group does it tell all your friends and family you are in it and what you are talking about? [15:14] AlanBell: nope [15:14] at least that's not my experience, not sure if there's a setting to make a group private [15:14] depends if its a private group [15:14] AlanBell: only if your friends are in it [15:14] Has anyone actually ever 'bought' anything off facebook ? (not including buying into the vanity). [15:15] and its private (they are) [15:15] no fees, no P&P [15:15] facebook sell things? [15:15] also good incentive for house clearance [15:15] i does it sells drugs , i know a shop .. [15:15] never even thought of being friends with Farnham [15:15] **it [15:16] https://www.facebook.com/FarnhamSurrey <- is that a group or a person or something wrong? [15:16] opening ... [15:16] https://www.facebook.com/groups/329811773721893/?fref=ts [15:17] AlanBell: ^^ [15:17] its a person [15:17] people are dumb [15:17] if it says "+1 Add friend" then it's a person [15:17] oracle didn't send me the replacement disk, its now 2 weeks [15:17] indeed, so a town shouldn't look like that then [15:18] I have enough issue with random people on Facebook, let alone selling things to random people on Facebook. [15:18] its not random if you go to their house [15:18] they should change it to a page [15:18] mungbean: I wouldn't go to any random person's house ;) [15:18] https://www.facebook.com/pages/Farnham/108322399188757?fref=ts so is this something I should like? [15:19] they should go to https://www.facebook.com/help/?faq=213602951994043 and fix it to be a page [15:19] so pages you like, groups you join and people you friend [15:19] oh yes, AlanBell I guess that idea of sending me the discs, left over, was a bit too big a wishlist ? [15:19] yes [15:19] * popey reported that one [15:20] redtape|renegade: ah heck, let me sort that out [15:21] it's ok .. It's just the IoMLUG guy is on the radio giving out discs in 2 weeks .. and we don't have any .. === Hornet- is now known as Hornet [15:37] Wow .. just heard 'open source' in a real song .. at 1:05MINS :::: http://open.spotify.com/track/58cCnMoXzeQNEX6m3aCwbW :::: 'Best leave it if you don't have Spotify. [15:45] wow [15:45] I had something that started with "indicator-session" taking up *26GB* of RAM and swap [15:45] before it got murdered by the kernel [15:46] nice! [15:46] file a bug pls! [15:47] might be bug 575335 [15:47] bug 575335 in indicator-applet (Ubuntu) "indicator-applet uses extremely large amounts of memory" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575335 [15:47] I don't have a crash log [15:48] * DJones wonders if 6 weeks is long enough for a website/messageboard to be started again after the original web host went bust, or whether it just shows a complete failure by the site administrators to have external backups and control over the site name [15:48] rarely have i seen a forum that has had backups [15:48] it might be too big a job to resuurect given busy lives [15:48] DJones: if they're serious about it, their hoster going bust would give them ~1-2 days downtime [15:48] at most [15:49] mungbean: People actually pay to be members of the site [15:50] MartijnVdS: My thoughts as well, I'd have thought a week at most === emmy is now known as Guest92121 [15:54] oh, a paid site is different [15:54] backups, and restore within a week [15:54] unless it's some kind of paid warez forum or something [15:54] then they deserve downtime [15:54] * mungbean intrigued [15:55] Heh, nope, just a sports club forum to discuss results etc [16:08] bigcalm: not ringing any bells [16:08] mgdm: ah, there you are :) [16:09] mgdm: ta. How about Simon Emms? [16:09] bigcalm: nope [16:10] mgdm: more people need to be on IRC! [16:10] hehe [16:10] mgdm: ta. Trying to sniff out people who have applied recently === emmy is now known as Guest55946 === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [17:46] Hello i need help with my ubuntu partitions [17:46] is there anyone who can help me [17:46] !patience [17:46] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/ [17:50] beduzu: wassup? [17:55] i need some help with ubuntu partitions [17:55] beduzu: can you describe the problem you're having with ubuntu partitions? [17:55] * MartijnVdS feels like ELIZA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA) [17:56] Yes i made clean installation over my windiws partition for ubuntu and them i made my other partition when it was all of my information for swap and now when i log in i cant see my partitions with all of my information [17:58] beduzu: so you installed Ubuntu and selected "Wipe disk and replace"? [17:58] well i choose something else [17:59] and then i install it and formated the partition with my windows but i needed a swap partition [17:59] so i choose my other hard partition for the swap and on this other partition was all of my data but now when i log in on ubuntu i can only see the partition when it was installed ubuntu [17:59] if you format a partition, it will become empty; everything on it is lost [18:00] beduzu: can you put the output of "fdisk -l" on pastebin? [18:00] !pastebin [18:00] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [18:00] the swap partition is inactive and i cant use it [18:02] nothing is happening when i write fdisk -l [18:02] beduzu: try "sudo fdisk -l" [18:03] it will run it as superuser (root), which has enough rights to read partition tables [18:03] !pastebin [18:03] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [18:04] !pastebin Disk /dev/sda: 750.2 GB, 750156374016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders, total 1465149168 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes Disk identifier: 0x7c12e647 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 2048 206847 102400 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT [18:04] beduzu: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [18:04] how does pastebin works [18:06] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5817497/ [18:09] did you see [18:18] so if I'm reading that right beduzu has a 500GB SWAP partition? [18:19] yes that was my drive with all of my information and now i cant see in after i isntalled ubuntu [18:20] whichever partition you set as swap will get overwritten by the installer. a swap partition isn't meant to store files so it doesn't appear in the tree [18:21] you mean all of my data on that drive is gone now [18:22] quite probably. you can try running something like photorec from an external disc to try to recover as much as is still present physically, but filenames and things like that will all be mangled [18:22] and likely anything you recover will be corrupt [18:22] if i return to windows is there a chance my files will be there [18:23] because i didnt format the swap partition [18:23] it's not looking hopeful [18:24]