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| Kilos | morning inetpro ThatGraemeGuy and others | 06:34 |
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| superfly | hi Kilos | 07:02 |
| Kilos | morning superfly charl tonberryE352 | 07:03 |
| tonberryE352 | morning | 07:03 |
| charl | good morning | 07:23 |
| charl | Hi superfly, Kilos, tonberryE352 | 07:23 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 07:23 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 07:23 | |
| inetpro | good morning | 07:23 |
| inetpro | and hi Kilos | 07:23 |
| charl | hi inetpro | 07:24 |
| charl | long time no speak to | 07:24 |
| charl | how's it going | 07:24 |
| superfly | hi charl | 07:24 |
| HawkiesZA | Morning folks | 07:26 |
| Maaz | HawkiesZA: By the way, magespawn on freenode told me "tell HawkiesZA http://znmeb.github.io/Computational-Journalism-Publishers-Workbench/" 1 day, 23 hours, 20 minutes and 32 seconds ago | 07:26 |
| charl | hi HawkiesZA | 07:26 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 07:27 |
| Kilos | hi HawkiesZA | 07:27 |
| inetpro | charl: hi, good and yourself | 07:28 |
| HawkiesZA | Hi Kilos, charl | 07:28 |
| Kilos | HawkiesZA, hows the greeter script going? | 07:28 |
| Kilos | you forgot hey | 07:29 |
| Kilos | yo JoTraGo | 07:29 |
| inetpro | hi HawkiesZA, superfly, tonberryE352 | 07:30 |
| magespawn | good morning | 07:30 |
| inetpro | hi magespawn | 07:30 |
| Kilos | so inetpro have you guys finished the moves setups and upgrading yet | 07:31 |
| Kilos | so you can get back to normal | 07:31 |
| inetpro | Kilos: good question, will have to find out today | 07:31 |
| Kilos | mage aint there yet | 07:31 |
| Kilos | ah | 07:31 |
| magespawn | just got it Kilos | 07:32 |
| magespawn | s/it/in | 07:32 |
| Kilos | hiya magespawn | 07:32 |
| magespawn | not so good, have manflu | 07:33 |
| inetpro | hmm... magespawn: at least it's not birdflu | 07:34 |
| HawkiesZA | hi inetpro | 07:34 |
| superfly | I never get manflu | 07:34 |
| superfly | hi inetpro, magespawn | 07:34 |
| HawkiesZA | Kilos, the fly said they were working on it :/ | 07:34 |
| magespawn | manflu is the worst kind, can take an otherwise strong independant man and reduce him him to sniviling, self pitying mess | 07:36 |
| trender | manflu is like a woman then | 07:36 |
| superfly | magespawn: that's why I don't get it. | 07:37 |
| charl | inetpro: very good thanks | 07:38 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 'ello :) | 07:45 |
| inetpro | magespawn: you found it through self-diagnosis? | 07:45 |
| inetpro | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 07:45 |
| superfly | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 07:46 |
| magespawn | inetpro indeed, that and i am friendly with the local pharmacist | 07:46 |
| magespawn | hi trender ThatGraemeGuy' | 07:46 |
| trender | yo mage...hoe gaanit | 07:51 |
| magespawn | good and you trender? | 07:54 |
| trender | no complaints man nobody listens | 07:56 |
| magespawn | HawkiesZA: i thought you might know some people who could use that software in the link | 07:56 |
| magespawn | trender: i think lots of people would listen, but that is about all most can do anyway | 07:58 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy trender | 07:59 |
| Kilos | magespawn, you gotta read logs man | 08:01 |
| Kilos | needed help yesterday with a tablet | 08:01 |
| magespawn | your sisters one? | 08:01 |
| Kilos | ya | 08:01 |
| Kilos | eventually got pc to see it with nokia cell data cable | 08:02 |
| Kilos | but dunno how to make it use my 3g | 08:02 |
| magespawn | i think you have to share the internet connection from the pc | 08:03 |
| Kilos | with nm? | 08:04 |
| magespawn | not sure how to | 08:05 |
| Kilos | all links i found was to use either a fone or tablet as the 3g | 08:06 |
| Kilos | nothing from tab to pcs 3g | 08:06 |
| magespawn | let me go look | 08:08 |
| Kilos | ty | 08:12 |
| magespawn | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing | 08:14 |
| magespawn | sorry Kilos brain is offline today | 08:15 |
| Kilos | ty magespawn | 08:15 |
| Kilos | im connecting the tab with data cable so will that route creatind adhock in wireless work? | 08:20 |
| magespawn | not in wireless, that would need both the pc and the tablet to be connected through a wireless network | 08:22 |
| magespawn | not sure how/if it will work through the usb cable | 08:23 |
| Kilos | i always have new probs | 08:24 |
| Kilos | maybe it will work once i got a wireless card in pc | 08:24 |
| Squirm | https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/1012354_10152976661610472_1535466983_n.png | 08:27 |
| Squirm | I need one of those | 08:27 |
| magespawn | Kilos: that might work better | 08:30 |
| Kilos | yeah lets hope | 08:30 |
| magespawn | Squirm: c is for coffee | 08:31 |
| magespawn | i saw a contraptioo of a coffee maker and something like a pi, so the owner could control it over the network | 08:32 |
| tonberryE352 | if I only had the time... | 08:32 |
| tonberryE352 | should be a fun project | 08:32 |
| charl | hi smile4ever | 08:39 |
| smile4ever | hi charl :) | 08:39 |
| charl | how's it going down south :) | 08:39 |
| Kilos | hi smile4ever | 08:39 |
| magespawn | http://lifehacker.com/5883973/mod-your-coffee-machine-to-operate-by-remote-control-and-start-your-brew-before-getting-out-of-bed | 08:39 |
| smile4ever | Hi Kilos :D | 08:40 |
| smile4ever | charl: great! :D | 08:40 |
| smile4ever | I'm updating the exchange rates of foreign currencies on wikipedia | 08:40 |
| smile4ever | :) | 08:40 |
| magespawn | http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2324.txt okay then | 08:41 |
| magespawn | hi smile4ever | 08:41 |
| charl | smile4ever: shouldn't that be done automatically? | 08:41 |
| smile4ever | charl: it isn't done automatically | 08:42 |
| smile4ever | ;) | 08:42 |
| smile4ever | hi magespawn :D | 08:42 |
| smile4ever | You didn't know that one? :o | 08:42 |
| charl | smile4ever: i don't know how to write bots for mediawiki but i think it should be fairly easy (in principle) | 08:42 |
| charl | there are a bunch of forex apis | 08:42 |
| smile4ever | charl: It's not easy to get info from a website which doesn't provide an api | 08:43 |
| smile4ever | because you'll need to parse the html | 08:43 |
| magespawn | with the rand that could be a day long job | 08:43 |
| charl | smile4ever: there are a bunch of forex apis but html scraping is simple, i used to do it a lot | 08:43 |
| charl | smile4ever: all you need is a powerful tagsoup parsing lib like jsoup | 08:43 |
| charl | smile4ever: i used jsoup in both java and python (jython) | 08:44 |
| smile4ever | charl: in order to edit, you also need an api key | 08:45 |
| smile4ever | which I'm not familiar with | 08:45 |
| charl | that's the problem | 08:45 |
| charl | i don't know how to do that either | 08:45 |
| smile4ever | I know how to get results from the api, but not how to edit with the api :) | 08:45 |
| smile4ever | You can't do everything with a bot though, there were two articles where I had difficulty to fix them :) | 08:47 |
| smile4ever | (out of 15) | 08:47 |
| charl | looking at https://github.com/MediaWiki-Bot/MediaWiki-Bot | 08:47 |
| charl | it's perl unfortunately | 08:47 |
| Squirm | magespawn: and Arduino would control it | 08:48 |
| Squirm | s/and/an | 08:49 |
| magespawn | Squirm: and if you could link it to Maaz it really would make the coffee when you asked it to | 08:50 |
| Squirm | definitely doable | 08:50 |
| smile4ever | charl: isn't perl difficult to read? :) | 08:50 |
| trender | *coff* ardiuno ...why cant people program proper microcontrollers why all the modern laziness ? | 08:51 |
| charl | yeah i hate it with a passion | 08:51 |
| charl | perl i mean | 08:51 |
| charl | but you can also write clean perl code if you have dicipline | 08:51 |
| charl | i'm reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Creating_a_bot now | 08:51 |
| charl | this definitely looks doable | 08:51 |
| charl | but it will require some time | 08:51 |
| Squirm | yes | 08:51 |
| charl | i'm not really involved with the wikipedia project so i'm not "in it" | 08:52 |
| Squirm | the hardest part will be actually controlling the coffee machine | 08:52 |
| charl | what kind of coffee machine are you looking at? a simple drip-filter machine? | 08:53 |
| charl | it can't be that difficult - it has two states - on and off :) | 08:53 |
| Squirm | yeah | 08:55 |
| Squirm | just realised that | 08:55 |
| Squirm | thinking you could just hack the on/off switch | 08:55 |
| Squirm | connect a Pi powered relay | 08:55 |
| charl | there are power plugs you can buy that will do this | 08:56 |
| charl | just connect the coffee machine to the adapter and then the adapter to the wall | 08:56 |
| charl | you switch the coffee on using a remote control | 08:56 |
| Squirm | na | 08:56 |
| charl | i'm sure you could hack the remote control and operate it from a microcontroller | 08:57 |
| charl | it's just a button you press | 08:57 |
| Squirm | I bought a few Solid State Relays off of ebay(like 3GBP each incl. postage) | 08:57 |
| Squirm | busy making an app in python for android that will turn a few lights in my house on/off and my geyser | 08:58 |
| charl | you want to put the microcontroller inside the coffee machine? | 08:58 |
| charl | you will need to find enough space | 08:58 |
| Squirm | no no | 08:58 |
| Squirm | think of an on off switch on the coffee machine | 08:58 |
| charl | if you do it external you have a mess of electronics in your kitchen, an environment with water everywhere | 08:59 |
| Squirm | that's what an SSR is | 08:59 |
| Squirm | besides - I don't own a coffee machine | 08:59 |
| charl | yes i know what an SSR is but you will need to control it | 08:59 |
| charl | the control signal | 09:00 |
| Squirm | via network cable connected to my Pi | 09:00 |
| charl | that's possible | 09:00 |
| Squirm | using it just to drive the 3v | 09:00 |
| charl | you will still need to run the network cable, that's why i was thinking it would be better to do with with a wireless remote control | 09:01 |
| smile4ever | Squirm: cool, pi model B? :) | 09:01 |
| charl | but if you want to do it for lights, geyser etc, a cable is perfect | 09:01 |
| Squirm | charl: that is true | 09:02 |
| tonberryE352 | are we arguing about microcontrollers and i missed it? | 09:02 |
| Squirm | smile4ever: model B, Rev A | 09:02 |
| smile4ever | Squirm: so 256MB ram? :p | 09:02 |
| Squirm | rev 1* | 09:02 |
| Squirm | smile4ever: indeed :/ | 09:03 |
| charl | tonberryE352: shame on you :) | 09:03 |
| tonberryE352 | trender because sometimes it is better to have slow working code that was quickly developed | 09:03 |
| tonberryE352 | but in general I love avr but avoid ardiuno | 09:03 |
| smile4ever | Squirm: Oh. :( | 09:10 |
| Squirm | but I seem to have broken my SD card slot :/ | 09:11 |
| tonberryE352 | how do you break an sd card slot? | 09:12 |
| Squirm | tried gluing a Micro Sd adapter to it, but seems to have not made proper contac | 09:12 |
| Squirm | t | 09:12 |
| tonberryE352 | oh | 09:12 |
| tonberryE352 | superglue I assume? | 09:13 |
| Squirm | another form of contact adhesive | 09:13 |
| Squirm | hope I can pull it off nicely | 09:13 |
| tonberryE352 | otherwise find another adapter and deadbug it on top of the slot | 09:14 |
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| magespawn | later all home time, taking wife to doctor | 10:24 |
| psyatw | hello magespawn | 10:24 |
| psyatw | see you later, good luck with the wife | 10:24 |
| magespawn | hey psyatw, thank you | 10:25 |
| Kilos | aw sup magespawn | 10:31 |
| Kilos | hi psyatw | 10:31 |
| psyatw | hi Kilos | 10:32 |
| charl | hi psyatw | 10:32 |
| charl | how's it going in poland | 10:32 |
| psyatw | hi charl | 10:33 |
| psyatw | it´s going quite well actually | 10:33 |
| psyatw | I work and I survive | 10:33 |
| Kilos | life goes on | 10:34 |
| psyatw | yesterday I downloaded lots of books on Oracle, SAP and Linux | 10:34 |
| psyatw | and I will download even more when I am back at home tonight | 10:34 |
| charl | linux ok great but oracle and sap? | 10:34 |
| psyatw | I intend to study these things of course | 10:34 |
| charl | we use a lot of oracle and sap where i work, i would not encourage it :) | 10:35 |
| psyatw | well, I work at Ciber, a cloud company | 10:35 |
| psyatw | I know :) | 10:35 |
| psyatw | but it´s always good to know about that stuff, I think | 10:35 |
| psyatw | I want to move away from service desk as soon as possible | 10:35 |
| psyatw | it doesn´t add anything to my life or experience, even though it´s been interesting so far | 10:36 |
| charl | i have a lot of respect for service desk people because their job is not always easy dealing with angry users | 10:36 |
| charl | but it's definitely not something i would consider a career for myself | 10:36 |
| charl | i think i would go nuts in a week | 10:37 |
| psyatw | I know, that´s why it´s a good thing that I have been doing this for two months now | 10:37 |
| psyatw | exactly | 10:37 |
| psyatw | and I know too much to be actually working here | 10:37 |
| psyatw | but as I said it allowed me to come to Poland to explore my opportunities from relatively humble beginnings | 10:38 |
| charl | took a look at ciber - interesting company but the term "cloud" seems to have been watered down now to a point of meaninglessness | 10:39 |
| charl | it's a case of "just do whatever you have been doing before and call it cloud" | 10:39 |
| charl | then you're also Hype Approved (tm) | 10:40 |
| charl | taking a look at https://www.linuxliteos.com/ | 10:41 |
| psyatw | yeah | 10:41 |
| charl | very promising lightweight ubuntu derivative | 10:42 |
| psyatw | I have mostly been dealing with system stuff myself and I find that most interesting | 10:42 |
| psyatw | but I also need to provide the skills that are asked for in the market, so I will be working on that for the time being | 10:42 |
| psyatw | not to mention wanting to get back into university after leaving delft, I guess I´ll continue my studies at open universiteit | 10:44 |
| charl | i saw this the other day: http://www.universiteitvannederland.nl/ | 10:46 |
| charl | i hope they will do some good ict-related stuff | 10:46 |
| Vince-0 | psyatw, why not LPI and ITIL ? | 10:47 |
| charl | Vince-0: ITIL ?!?! | 10:47 |
| psyatw | Vince-0: I am a programmer at heart, but I know system administration too, so I will do those too at some point | 10:48 |
| charl | is that becoming popular in .za now too? | 10:49 |
| Vince-0 | yar | 10:49 |
| charl | i feel so sorry for you :) | 10:50 |
| Vince-0 | see some of the Amazon support role specs | 10:50 |
| psyatw | btw, hi Vince-0 :) | 10:51 |
| charl | i had my own version of ITIL, i call it "KITIL" (sounds like "kietel" which in dutch means to tickle someone) | 10:52 |
| Vince-0 | haai! | 10:52 |
| Vince-0 | LPI is a piece of cake | 10:52 |
| charl | why do it then?\ | 10:53 |
| Vince-0 | LPI 2+3 are being revised in November | 10:53 |
| Vince-0 | charl, just a piece of paper so I can rightfully call myself a Linux admin | 10:53 |
| charl | hmmm | 10:53 |
| charl | have you heard of PRINCE2 yet? | 10:54 |
| Vince-0 | two 90 minute multiple choice exams online @ R1125, gets your Comptia Linux+, LPI1 and Novel Cert Admin | 10:54 |
| Vince-0 | PRINCE2 yar | 10:54 |
| Vince-0 | but that's heavy weight when compared to a ITIL foundation course | 10:54 |
| charl | regrettable, i'm so sorry to hear | 10:55 |
| charl | :) | 10:55 |
| Vince-0 | think the PRINCE2 stuff is based on US processes, ITIL comes from UK IT office | 10:55 |
| charl | no prince2 is from the uk as well | 10:55 |
| charl | same people that developed itil | 10:55 |
| Vince-0 | the ITIL foundation course is a piece of cake too - so LPI1 and ITIL foundation are quick wins for getting certs | 10:57 |
| charl | yeah i know i am itil v3 certified | 10:57 |
| charl | just study through the mock exams | 10:57 |
| charl | and pay attention in class | 10:57 |
| Vince-0 | class! that's a costly exercise | 10:58 |
| Vince-0 | I just got the books | 10:58 |
| psyatw | I guess I will study ITIL v3 too, just to have it | 10:58 |
| Vince-0 | there are local test centers so its easy | 10:59 |
| charl | i don't know if you really need it but i got it along with a group at work | 10:59 |
| charl | do people really care about certifications that much in ict? | 11:00 |
| charl | my experience has been quite the opposite | 11:00 |
| Vince-0 | usually, depends on the company | 11:00 |
| charl | afaik nobody ever asked me about my qualifications, i don't care, i have a bachelors | 11:01 |
| charl | that's all i need :) | 11:01 |
| Vince-0 | ya that gets you in the door | 11:03 |
| Vince-0 | easy | 11:03 |
| Vince-0 | RHCE is on the cards for me next year | 11:04 |
| psyatw | :) | 11:06 |
| psyatw | I will work on getting mine too | 11:06 |
| Vince-0 | yoh, Gnome3 GUI just froze on desktop preview - | 11:08 |
| charl | i ran gnome3 for about a year - it wasn't very stable | 11:12 |
| charl | eventually moved away to kde4 and then to i3 | 11:12 |
| Vince-0 | Still Fedora 17 here, very nice other than that - haven't updated in a while | 11:13 |
| charl | oh yeah i remember it | 11:13 |
| charl | tried it out but am not a big redhat fan | 11:14 |
| psyatw | neither am I | 11:14 |
| psyatw | they work on cool stuff but I usually find their distribution unusable on the desktop | 11:14 |
| charl | i just think apt is miles ahead of yum | 11:16 |
| charl | on old pcs yum also used to be super slow | 11:16 |
| psyatw | that is the case too, yes | 11:19 |
| Vince-0 | nort ey, RH for the win | 11:20 |
| charl | http://en.rocketnews24.com/2013/07/01/the-restaurant-that-powered-the-team-behind-one-of-nintendos-biggest-hits/ | 11:21 |
| charl | food looks delicious | 11:21 |
| charl | watched the video | 11:21 |
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| Kilos | 2400000 is that 2.4 gig | 11:49 |
| * Kilos gets mixed up with how many zeroes are needed | 11:49 | |
| Kilos | charl, whats with http://scholarcommons.usf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4830&context=etd | 11:54 |
| Kilos | the bot says its forbidden | 11:54 |
| Kilos | inetpro, hehe cheap android fone?? | 12:05 |
| Kilos | over a grand | 12:05 |
| inetpro | Kilos: where did you look around? | 12:11 |
| Kilos | http://www.pricecheck.co.za/categories/f/126/Cellular+Phones/f/269/Android/0/tp.weekly/DESC/ | 12:12 |
| Kilos | i googled cheapest android fones and it came up with best android phones | 12:12 |
| Kilos | grrr | 12:12 |
| inetpro | Vodacom used to have cheap Vodafone branded android phones | 12:20 |
| inetpro | can't find one now | 12:21 |
| Kilos | np ty sir | 12:22 |
| inetpro | the Samsung Galaxy Pocket = R 899 .00 at Vodacom | 12:23 |
| inetpro | there should be something more in line with that | 12:23 |
| Kilos | eish i think ill try with a wireless card in pc first | 12:23 |
| Kilos | if it works its only R250 used | 12:24 |
| inetpro | Kilos: get the specs before you buy | 12:25 |
| Kilos | well it must work on either ubuntu or win 7 so i gotta take a chance | 12:26 |
| Kilos | peeps dont wanna gives specs in mail; | 12:26 |
| Kilos | they think you gonna then shop around i spose | 12:26 |
| Kilos | we gotta go to closest shop | 12:26 |
| Kilos | when we can swaar blew head gasket on sis's car when heater pipe burst sunday | 12:27 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you should perhaps look at getting a USB dongle rather than a PCI card | 12:27 |
| inetpro | unless others disagree | 12:27 |
| Kilos | usb dongle for? | 12:28 |
| inetpro | usb wifi dongle | 12:28 |
| Kilos | oh my | 12:28 |
| Kilos | everything coming in usb | 12:29 |
| Kilos | whew | 12:29 |
| inetpro | a PCI adapter may give many headaches to make it work on Ubuntu | 12:29 |
| Kilos | ill check what i find in them ty | 12:29 |
| Kilos | oh my | 12:29 |
| inetpro | a USB dongle would most likely be just plug and play | 12:30 |
| Kilos | cool | 12:30 |
| inetpro | but I can't tell for sure because I haven't played around in this area | 12:31 |
| inetpro | just going on what others have told me | 12:31 |
| Kilos | i see one for R236 | 12:31 |
| Kilos | ah ty for the info | 12:31 |
| inetpro | Kilos: they tell me you must look around in the small electronics shops | 12:33 |
| inetpro | R236 sounds a bit much | 12:33 |
| Kilos | oh | 12:34 |
| plustwo | Kilos: how soon you want this? | 12:34 |
| plustwo | i can check for you tomorrow, how much they go for. lower than that price | 12:35 |
| Kilos | hehe funny question | 12:35 |
| plustwo | oh! hi everyone | 12:35 |
| Kilos | got sis chafing at the bit to get tab working | 12:35 |
| Kilos | hi plustwo | 12:35 |
| plustwo | o/ | 12:36 |
| plustwo | ok | 12:36 |
| inetpro | ahh thanks plustwo, I knew you would be able to help with this | 12:36 |
| Kilos | inetpro, also then there is also the sharing to figure out | 12:36 |
| charl | congratulations, i see south africa has joined the european union http://www.efnet.org/?module=servers&server_id=93 | 12:36 |
| plustwo | no problem, will update you tomorrow. | 12:37 |
| Kilos | so i will need to share usb 3g and usb wireless from tab | 12:37 |
| charl | israel too http://www.efnet.org/?module=servers&server_id=33 | 12:37 |
| Kilos | talk to me plustwo | 12:37 |
| charl | Kilos: i can open the above url fine | 12:38 |
| charl | Kilos: this one: http://scholarcommons.usf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4830&context=etd | 12:38 |
| plustwo | i think you'll need to access wireless from tab to 3g. | 12:38 |
| Kilos | if thats possible thats good plustwo price? | 12:39 |
| inetpro | Kilos: your phone will be your 3g and the wifi dongle will be the AP for the tab | 12:39 |
| Kilos | my 3g modem must be the internet | 12:39 |
| Kilos | stupid tablet should come with that in the swines | 12:40 |
| Kilos | im not buying a fone as well so she can get a couple of books a month and emails | 12:41 |
| inetpro | Kilos: might be a bit tricky, that is why I prefer keeping these things separate | 12:42 |
| Kilos | when one data cable connects a tablet to a pc should you have full control of the tablet from the pc | 12:42 |
| plustwo | that would be a wired connection from the pc to the tab. not a wireless one | 12:43 |
| Kilos | or just the ability to drag drop stuff to it\ | 12:44 |
| plustwo | drag and drop, yes. | 12:44 |
| Kilos | yes plustwo but i dunno how to make the tablet then use the 3g | 12:44 |
| Kilos | and it needs to get an ebook reader | 12:44 |
| plustwo | ok | 12:45 |
| plustwo | ebook reader application you mean, oom? | 12:46 |
| inetpro | Kilos: take one step at a time | 12:46 |
| inetpro | you need internet access first | 12:47 |
| Kilos | ya maybe first get wifi working i think | 12:47 |
| Kilos | oh ya | 12:47 |
| Kilos | i googled last night but everything shows tethering etc to a cellphone | 12:48 |
| Kilos | cant find how to do something similar to ssh with masquerading | 12:49 |
| Kilos | charl, what does it say there for formula for wifi antenna | 12:50 |
| inetpro | Kilos: obviously you should be able to connect to the internet from any other hotspot out there | 12:51 |
| Kilos | there arent any near inetpro | 12:51 |
| Kilos | that one i told you about last night is the closest and it behind the mountain | 12:51 |
| Kilos | that park place | 12:52 |
| Kilos | grrr | 12:52 |
| inetpro | visit any McDonalds | 12:52 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:52 |
| inetpro | or Wimpy | 12:52 |
| Kilos | nee man | 12:53 |
| inetpro | or the library | 12:53 |
| Kilos | i must make it work from here | 12:53 |
| Kilos | no other option | 12:53 |
| inetpro | or some filling station | 12:53 |
| Kilos | do filling stations have wifi? | 12:54 |
| inetpro | some of them have these days, just ask around | 12:54 |
| Kilos | ok ty | 13:00 |
| Kilos | yes plustwo the ebook reader. ive download some epub boots here for her but the thing cant open them | 13:01 |
| Kilos | grrr | 13:01 |
| Kilos | thought at least id give her something to read | 13:02 |
| Kilos | hehe | 13:02 |
| Superhuman | Kilos: is it an Android tab? | 13:02 |
| Kilos | keep her busy for a while | 13:02 |
| plustwo | ok, try ireader or moon+ reader... | 13:02 |
| Kilos | yes superfly a blaupunkt etab 0507 | 13:03 |
| plustwo | if it's an android tab | 13:03 |
| Kilos | i looked at some readers for the thing from here but they want to directly install not download here and drag/drop there to install | 13:04 |
| Superhuman | ok, I personally use Aldiko ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aldiko.android ) but on some devices it doesn't work, then try eBook Reader ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ebooks.ebookreader ) | 13:04 |
| Kilos | as inetpro says i gotta get it to connect to the internet first | 13:05 |
| Superhuman | Jip. | 13:05 |
| Kilos | what a schlep | 13:05 |
| Kilos | in the book it even says linux compatible | 13:06 |
| Kilos | hehe | 13:06 |
| Superhuman | You connecting 3G and/or Wifi (if I scan the convo correctly), what seems to be the issue? | 13:06 |
| Kilos | now i hear you got linux fix it | 13:06 |
| Kilos | it has no built in 3g | 13:06 |
| Kilos | only wifi | 13:06 |
| Superhuman | Eish, pain in the @.. | 13:08 |
| Kilos | tell me about it i cant even sit down anymore | 13:08 |
| Kilos | hehe | 13:09 |
| Superhuman | I suppose you don't have a wifi router for it to connect to? | 13:09 |
| Kilos | no router at all | 13:09 |
| Kilos | only 3g dongle here | 13:09 |
| Superhuman | Ouch, yeah, the only way tethering works at the moment is pc-to-mobile-device | 13:10 |
| Superhuman | so at the moment you can't connect it to a pc and then use the pc's internet connection... | 13:10 |
| Kilos | ya thats all i found too | 13:10 |
| Kilos | grrr | 13:10 |
| Superhuman | I've tried it a million times. | 13:11 |
| Kilos | oh my | 13:11 |
| Superhuman | The best solution is to get a cheap wifi router, and connect it up to the pc with a lan cable, and use the pc as the gateway for the tablet. | 13:11 |
| Superhuman | So basically connection the tablet to the router, then setting the settings via dhcp (dhcp server: router or pc). | 13:12 |
| Kilos | well if anyone here has one for sale they must just shout | 13:12 |
| Superhuman | you a neasily pick up a cheapy between R250 and R500. I wouldn't trust the R250 one, but it can be a good start, as long as it is a known brand. | 13:14 |
| Kilos | whew where | 13:14 |
| Kilos | 250 is good | 13:14 |
| Superhuman | I have the same situation at home. Just haven't had the chance to actually do someting about it. | 13:14 |
| Kilos | speed dont matter | 13:14 |
| Kilos | the pro said ask if someone has upgraded to a better router and wants to sell the old one | 13:15 |
| inetpro | Kilos: Superhuman actually has a good suggestion that I didn't even think about | 13:21 |
| Superhuman | There used to be a cheap TrendNet one, but it seems to have been discontinued. New ones: http://www.pricecheck.co.za/search/?search=wifi+router&search_category_id=191&sort=price%20asc | 13:22 |
| Superhuman | Otherwise look for secondhand ones on JunkMail or Olx. | 13:22 |
| inetpro | those older routers without 3g but with wifi should work just fine with your PC acting as a gateway | 13:22 |
| Superhuman | bid or buy might have a s well. | 13:23 |
| Kilos | ah ty | 13:23 |
| Superhuman | When I want to try out something like this, my first stop is a dodgy electronics shop (the cheap ones that sell airtime, cellphones, radios and teddy bears). | 13:24 |
| Superhuman | They normally have import electronics that are cheap and work for about 6months depending on quality. | 13:25 |
| Superhuman | I got away with 7.1 surround sound headset from one for about R200. They are still working, 3 years later. | 13:25 |
| inetpro | Superhuman: or they might even have cheap 2nd hand stuffs | 13:26 |
| Superhuman | true | 13:26 |
| Kilos | i dont get around do do shop so dont even know where them places are anymoreping | 13:26 |
| Kilos | where did that ping come from | 13:26 |
| Kilos | i didnt type that | 13:26 |
| Kilos | oh anymore shopping | 13:27 |
| Superhuman | My local one is next to our spar. | 13:27 |
| Kilos | whew | 13:27 |
| inetpro | Kilos: what ping are you talking about? | 13:27 |
| Kilos | anymoreping | 13:28 |
| Superhuman | Every mall/shopping centre has one. You just gotta know where to look. They are ussually disguised as cellphone shops. | 13:28 |
| Kilos | i dunno what happened to that sentence | 13:28 |
| inetpro | hmm... my eyes didn't even see it :-) | 13:28 |
| Kilos | weird | 13:29 |
| Kilos | sigh power went | 13:53 |
| Kilos | inetpro, found a solution | 14:02 |
| Kilos | http://pretoria.olx.co.za/billion-3g-wireless-7300nx-router-r300-as-new-iid-523791519 | 14:02 |
| Kilos | just need someone to go get it | 14:02 |
| * Kilos ducks | 14:02 | |
| Kilos | is it on your way home? | 14:03 |
| Kilos | eish we cant even get to fone him. sigh | 14:12 |
| Kilos | maybe he is busy with his fone | 14:12 |
| inetpro | Kilos: sounds like a good deal, just keep calling, or try another similar option | 14:15 |
| Kilos | i mailed him too | 14:16 |
| Kilos | hope it aint sold | 14:16 |
| Kilos | eish he has someone coming tonight to look at it | 14:24 |
| Kilos | he couldnt get it working so bought another one which he cant get working either | 14:33 |
| Kilos | http://pretoria.olx.co.za/d-link-adsl-3g-wireless-router-iid-517885230 | 14:42 |
| Kilos | r@%) | 14:42 |
| Kilos | R250 | 14:42 |
| Kilos | gi georgelappies theblazehen | 14:50 |
| Kilos | hi as well | 14:50 |
| theblazehen | hi Kilos | 14:51 |
| Kilos | too much googling flattens head | 14:51 |
| Kilos | hi Cantide | 15:18 |
| Cantide | hey Kilos :) | 15:18 |
| magespawn | evening all | 15:55 |
| Cantide | evening~ | 15:55 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 15:55 |
| Kilos | hi neo31 | 15:55 |
| Kilos | you a linux guru or you need help? | 15:56 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 15:56 |
| neo31 | hi Kilos | 15:57 |
| neo31 | hello folks :) | 15:58 |
| magespawn | hi neo31 | 15:59 |
| magespawn | Kilos: i think if every one was like you people like me would be out of a job | 16:00 |
| Kilos | oh my what did i do now | 16:01 |
| magespawn | you now going on about a router just to set up a shared internet connection | 16:01 |
| magespawn | if that is not geeky, then i do not ono | 16:03 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:03 |
| magespawn | if that is not geeky, then i do not know what is | 16:03 |
| Kilos | sistersare like wives man | 16:03 |
| Kilos | if they not happy you eat bread only | 16:04 |
| Vince-0 | Haai | 16:04 |
| magespawn | indeed | 16:04 |
| magespawn | hey Vince-0 | 16:05 |
| Vince-0 | Blerry Monday is over, whoot | 16:05 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:05 |
| Cantide | haha | 16:06 |
| Cantide | i finished work at 2 pm today :) | 16:06 |
| Cantide | nicest Monday everrrrrrrrr | 16:06 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:07 |
| Kilos | so where are all our hams | 16:28 |
| Cantide | i ate them | 16:28 |
| Kilos | is the formula 492/freq in meg still the same for a 2.4g antenna | 16:29 |
| Kilos | radio hams man | 16:29 |
| Kilos | amateur radio guys | 16:29 |
| Cantide | :p | 16:29 |
| Cantide | i have no idea about that stuff :p | 16:29 |
| Kilos | i dunno what to google for, my radio notes are from 1979 | 16:33 |
| georgelappies | hi Kilos | 16:49 |
| magespawn | later all, bed time | 17:49 |
| Kilos | toods magespawn | 17:50 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 17:50 |
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| smile4ever | bye | 18:39 |
| Kilos | methinks only leaks can be from peeps riding past looking for wifi connections hey? | 18:52 |
| inetpro | good evening | 19:16 |
| inetpro | Kilos: have you found a router yet? | 19:16 |
| Kilos | so that one aint sold. inetpro sis picking it up tomorrow | 19:17 |
| Kilos | and good evening | 19:17 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you mean the d-link? | 19:17 |
| Kilos | Billion 3G Wireless 7300nx router | 19:17 |
| inetpro | ah | 19:18 |
| Kilos | then we start all over to get it working | 19:18 |
| Kilos | ive never seen a router even | 19:19 |
| Kilos | but its progress in the pc world | 19:20 |
| inetpro | don't worry, no need to have a helicopter pilot license | 19:20 |
| Kilos | haha | 19:21 |
| Kilos | i send that script i use to get 3g working here to that johan on the list but no reply yet | 19:22 |
| deegee_1 | o/ | 19:23 |
| inetpro | I see that is not a 3g router like the new ones but it should work perfectly the way Superhuman described this afternoon | 19:23 |
| Kilos | whew i better go find that and save it | 19:24 |
| Kilos | yo deegee_1 | 19:24 |
| inetpro | for 3g connectivity in this router it looks like you need a 3g usb modem | 19:25 |
| deegee_1 | oi Kilos; i'm using a telkom routerADSL or 3g usb modem | 19:25 |
| inetpro | but your pc will act as a router | 19:25 |
| deegee_1 | the router is connecting my pcduino via wireless | 19:25 |
| Kilos | oh dont the tablet see the 3g | 19:25 |
| inetpro | deegee_1: wb | 19:25 |
| deegee_1 | inetpro: hi | 19:26 |
| inetpro | Kilos: don't stress about things now, just get the thing and peeps will start helping when you have it | 19:27 |
| Kilos | cool ty | 19:28 |
| Kilos | dont it take the sim in it | 19:28 |
| inetpro | if there's no hardware issues you should be fine | 19:28 |
| Kilos | or does the 3g dongle have to stay on pc? | 19:28 |
| inetpro | Kilos: nope, looks like it doesn't take a sim | 19:28 |
| Kilos | oh my | 19:28 |
| Kilos | whats the good of calling it a 3g modem then | 19:29 |
| Kilos | 3g router | 19:29 |
| inetpro | Using the integrated USB 2.0 ports, the device allows you to share a blistering wired or 3G-based wireless Internet connection with multiple computers or laptops. | 19:30 |
| inetpro | it has a usb port where you could plug in a 3g usb modem | 19:30 |
| inetpro | but I don't think you'll need that | 19:30 |
| Kilos | if i put the 3g in there will the tablet then go via the router to the internet | 19:31 |
| deegee_1 | need help to setting up freeradius on ubuntu, google just gives out a lot of dead end links on some info. any help with links will help greatly. tnx in advance. | 19:32 |
| inetpro | could almost be false advertising if you ask me | 19:32 |
| inetpro | Kilos: we will have to help you to set up your PC as the router | 19:32 |
| Kilos | • 3G network sharing | 19:33 |
| Kilos | • Storage: FTP server, samba server | 19:33 |
| inetpro | actually you've already done exactly that when you connected your 2nd PC | 19:33 |
| Kilos | what does that mean | 19:33 |
| Kilos | http://www.billion.com/product/3g/BiPAC-7300NX-3G-Wireless-N-ADSL2-Firewall-Router.html | 19:33 |
| Kilos | long way down | 19:34 |
| Kilos | by usb application server | 19:34 |
| inetpro | well you could use that but I doubt you need all that | 19:35 |
| Kilos | oh well when its here ill start thinking about it | 19:36 |
| Kilos | do those things come with install cds for winsucks | 19:36 |
| Kilos | i might have to change some things in nm setup | 19:36 |
| Kilos | now it must just be locked to cellc or voda and ill cry | 19:37 |
| inetpro | it shouldn't | 19:38 |
| inetpro | well actually I don't see how they would do that | 19:38 |
| Kilos | oh not like 3g modems | 19:40 |
| Kilos | and some wireless dongles like the vodafone one | 19:40 |
| Kilos | im sure the vodafone one wont take 8ta' | 19:41 |
| inetpro | Kilos: actually I'm not sure whether it is worth paying R250 for this thing but it will be good enough for your current needs | 19:41 |
| Kilos | whew explain inetpro | 19:42 |
| inetpro | well it is 2nd hand after all | 19:42 |
| Kilos | oh you didnt read | 19:42 |
| inetpro | I'm not quite sure what similar devices go for these days | 19:43 |
| inetpro | I didn't read? | 19:43 |
| Kilos | the okey bought it and he couldnt get it working so bought another one and couldnt get that working either | 19:43 |
| Kilos | i think their price is 900+ | 19:43 |
| inetpro | ah, ok | 19:43 |
| Kilos | i thought its a good price if he is telling the truth | 19:44 |
| Kilos | he works at club motors | 19:44 |
| Kilos | so i can always go visit with a baseball bat | 19:45 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:45 |
| Kilos | or send you okes | 19:45 |
| inetpro | :-) | 19:46 |
| inetpro | well sounds like a good deal then | 19:46 |
| Kilos | i think so | 19:47 |
| Kilos | deegee_1, does ubuntu see the router and the router the 3g or does ubuntu still see the 3g | 19:48 |
| deegee_1 | yes, it does see the router wirelessly. | 19:50 |
| Kilos | oh my | 19:50 |
| Kilos | here the router will be over eth | 19:50 |
| deegee_1 | router is connected to 3g usb dongle to the internet | 19:50 |
| Kilos | so ubuntu dont worry about the modem then | 19:51 |
| deegee_1 | your router will have eth ports and wireless aerials. | 19:51 |
| deegee_1 | nope | 19:51 |
| Kilos | cool | 19:51 |
| deegee_1 | you controll the router via web interface | 19:51 |
| Kilos | hope the router recognises my modem | 19:52 |
| Kilos | otherwise ill have to leave the 3g in the pc | 19:52 |
| deegee_1 | you tell your router to allow wireless clients (tab) to access the internet via the router | 19:52 |
| deegee_1 | if the router has a usb port on it, then you can attach the 3g usb on the router | 19:53 |
| Kilos | and how do you block neighbours from using you wireless | 19:53 |
| deegee_1 | then your wired pc to the router | 19:53 |
| deegee_1 | you hide the ssid | 19:53 |
| inetpro | Kilos: in your case the router will just act as a switch with you phone still connected to your PC as always | 19:53 |
| Kilos | ya router has usb ports | 19:53 |
| inetpro | your PC will be the router | 19:53 |
| deegee_1 | with a strong password as well | 19:54 |
| deegee_1 | no, pc will be wired client to the router | 19:54 |
| deegee_1 | your router whas the ability to distribute ip addresses automatically, dhcp. | 19:55 |
| Kilos | oh so i can use modem in pc or router | 19:55 |
| Kilos | oh ok | 19:55 |
| Kilos | whew head spinning all this new info so fast | 19:55 |
| deegee_1 | you'll manage your internet connectivity from the web interface of the router. | 19:55 |
| Kilos | oh my more to learn | 19:56 |
| inetpro | Kilos: currently, as far as I understand, your pc initiates the 3g connection on your phone, am I right? | 19:56 |
| deegee_1 | hope i explained in a basic way and not confusing way. i stand under correction. | 19:56 |
| Kilos | not fone man that arab 3g dongle | 19:56 |
| Kilos | alcatel dongle | 19:57 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ahh, ok I forgot about that arab thing | 19:57 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:57 |
| inetpro | so maybe it will just work | 19:57 |
| Kilos | old age | 19:57 |
| Kilos | lets hope | 19:57 |
| Kilos | thanks for all the info guys | 19:58 |
| Kilos | methinks bed time for ballies | 19:58 |
| Kilos | night all sleep tight | 19:58 |
| inetpro | Kilos: good night oom | 19:58 |
| * deegee_1 continues with research ... | 20:00 | |
| inetpro | sorry deegee_1, am to tired to even think about radius let alone help | 20:01 |
| * inetpro sal jou van die wal af in die sloot in help | 20:02 | |
| deegee_1 | no stress, will keep searching inetpro | 20:02 |
| * deegee_1 naps | 20:11 | |
| deegee_1 | inetpro: will look at this tomorrow; http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/print/tutorials/article.php/3834676/How-to-Use-FreeRADIUS-for-Wi-Fi-Authentication-Part-1.htm | 20:11 |
| inetpro | ok | 20:12 |
| deegee_1 | bye | 20:13 |
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