[00:00] <Boneheads1999> pfifo yeah (sorry I'll keep using the username at the start)
[00:00] <pfifo> cristobal, no /sbin is not encrypted, shutdown is a program not a script, only a computer can read it, for more info on chmod or chown reference the manual, 'man chmod'
[00:00] <Boneheads1999> !patience
[00:00] <jacki> pfifo ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5815409/
[00:00] <cristobal> thanks pfifo ... appreciated
[00:01] <jacki> sorry for delay , I have trouble with my vm
[00:02] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, well as far as I know, shockwave doesnt have a linux player, only flash, I was hoping you meant flash
[00:02] <Boneheads1999> sorry I meant Adobe Flash Player
[00:03] <Boneheads1999> pfifo sorry i meant Adobe Flash Player
[00:03] <Boneheads1999> (sorry again)
[00:03] <pfifo> jacki, your gateway is wrong, change it from 127.0.0.1 to the address of your router
[00:03] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, can you view other flash animations?
[00:03] <jacki> I changed it but it didn't work
[00:04] <jacki> actually at first it was 192.168.32.2
[00:04] <pfifo> jacki, remove gateway from the loopback, it doesnt have gateways
[00:04] <jacki> I did
[00:04] <Boneheads1999> pfifo you mean like .swf urls?
[00:04] <jacki> still I am having same problem !
[00:04] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, can you watch youtube vids?
[00:04] <Boneheads1999> No
[00:04] <pfifo> jacki, can you ping your gateway?
[00:04] <Boneheads1999> pfifo no, when I rollover a youtube video it says "couldn't load plug-in"
[00:05] <jacki> pfifo ; this is my configuration when it is on auto ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5815418/
[00:05] <jacki> I did the same but it didn't work !
[00:07] <jacki> can I send you private ?
[00:07] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, are you sure you installed flash? 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer'
[00:08] <Boneheads1999> pfifo I'll run that command
[00:08] <pfifo> jacki, can you ping your gateway?
[00:09] <Boneheads1999> user@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[00:09] <Boneheads1999> [sudo] password for user:
[00:09] <Boneheads1999> Reading package lists... Done
[00:09] <Boneheads1999> Building dependency tree
[00:09] <Boneheads1999> Reading state information... Done
[00:09] <FloodBot1> Boneheads1999: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:09] <Boneheads1999> flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.
[00:10] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, have you ever had this working?
[00:10] <Boneheads1999> pfifo no
[00:10] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, did you just now install it and forget to restart the browser?
[00:10] <Boneheads1999> pfifo no
[00:11] <Boneheads1999> pfifo I Installed it a looooong time ago (3 days ago when I got the computer hehe)
[00:12] <jacki> pfifo , I am able to ping when it is in auto mode !
[00:13] <ef5c_ef5c> Vec_, will you be wanting that filesystem to mount automatically when you reboot?  You'd need to add an entry to /etc/fstab for that
[00:13] <`Kyan`> hi
[00:13] <`Kyan`> someone that can explain to me what iptables are and how to use them without sending me to links on somewhere website?
[00:14] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure --force flashplugin-installer'
[00:14] <Vec_> ef5c_ef5c: Yeah i do, oh i didnt know that. *looking into fstab*
[00:14] <hellier> Just updated to 13.04 and noticed when I hover over the top black bar, there is no longer an SSH/FTP login connection dropdown?
[00:14] <xangua> Boneheads1999: does it work on firefox¿
[00:14] <zykotick9> jacki: if you aren't using N-M, i'm pretty sure you should have a "real" gateway, instead of the 127.0.0.1 address...  just a guess.
[00:14] <Boneheads1999> xangua no
[00:15] <pfifo> jacki, have you been restarting the network service? You need todo that every time you make a change 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[00:15] <Boneheads1999> pfifo ok ill do that
[00:15] <th0r> `Kyan`, it isn't that simple. You would be much better off with the website
[00:15] <`Kyan`> i'm tryin' to understanding somethin' but it's too complicated :\
[00:16] <ef5c_ef5c> Vec_, For my /media FS in VG data2vg, LV medialv, for example, I have "/dev/mapper/data2vg-medialv /media      ext3    defaults              0       2"
[00:17] <jacki> i did ; "ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"   !!!
[00:17] <pfifo> `Kyan`, iptables is the kernels built in firewall, used to block and shape network traffic
[00:17] <ef5c_ef5c> Vec_, you should have some other examples in your /etc/fstab.  You'd have to change the VG & LV name and mountpoint, and I think you mentioned ext4 instead of ext3
[00:17] <pfifo> jacki, ok so whats your updated interfaces file look like?
[00:18] <`Kyan`> pfifo, and what about netfilter? O.o
[00:18] <zykotick9> jacki: you probably DON'T want the "auto eth0" commented out!
[00:18] <jacki> what does ignoring mean ?!
[00:18] <Vec_> ef5c_ef5c: ext4 yes, thanks for the example. Im looking at ur example, fstab entries and some googled guide atm. This seems doable within some minutes :)
[00:18] <Boneheads1999> pfifo when I dont put in a directory for the tar.gz file, because there is none I never downloaded a tar.gz, it does  nothing after I skip the directory
[00:18] <ef5c_ef5c> Vec_, Adding the filesystem to /etc/fstab has 2 advantages: 1) automount at boot, and 2) ability to mount and umount the filesystem just by naming the mountpoint: umount /media ; mount /media
[00:18] <zykotick9> jacki: # at the beginning of a line is a comment
[00:18] <Fand> should i have both windows and ubuntu, for a newbie? or only ubuntu?
[00:19] <Vec_> ef5c_ef5c: nice, ok
[00:19] <Boneheads1999> pfifo it just goes back in terminal and brings up the "user@ubuntu:~$"
[00:19] <clue_h> preferably ubuntu alone
[00:19] <zykotick9> jacki: auto just means to bring the device up automatically, not auto configuration.
[00:19] <jacki> I will do it ,
[00:20] <pfifo> `Kyan`, netfilter is the actual code that iptables modifies
[00:20] <zykotick9> jacki: you should remove the # from "auto lo" as well
[00:21] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, does flash work now? dont forget to restart browsers
[00:21] <`Kyan`> ah ok.
[00:21] <`Kyan`> the problem is the working of iptables.
[00:21] <`Kyan`> >.<
[00:22] <`Kyan`> doesn't exists two simple rules? ALLOW and BLOCK?
[00:22] <Boneheads1999> pfifo new message now. "Adobe Flash Player is required to display some elements on this page. [Install plug-in...]"
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> Boneheads1999, Did you install the restricted extras?
[00:22] <Boneheads1999> a while ago I think
[00:23] <pfifo> `Kyan`, your going to need alot of coffee and aspirin, iptables is a complicated program, you should tackle it over several sittings
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> Boneheads1999, Make sure there are codes in it.
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> codecs*
[00:23] <rypervenche> `Kyan`: There are three. ACCEPT, REJECT, DROP
[00:23] <`Kyan`> pfifo, :\
[00:24] <`Kyan`> rypervenche, ACCEPT = ALLOW, REJECT = BLOCK................ DROP = ?
[00:24] <Boneheads1999> pfifio ? what
[00:24] <rypervenche> `Kyan`: Let's talk in a PM so we don't disturb others.
[00:24] <Boneheads1999> pfifo what does that mean
[00:24] <`Kyan`> ok
[00:24] <hellier> Urgh why did Ubuntu remove the connect to server function.
[00:25] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, im thinking, hold on a few
[00:25] <jacki> pfifo ; this how it looks like right now ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5815454/
[00:25] <trism> hellier: it is still there, File/Connect to Server in the file browser menu
[00:25] <pfifo> jacki, pastebin the output of 'ip addr'
[00:26] <zykotick9> pfifo: the auto lines being commented out are probably jacki's problem... just sayin'
[00:26] <hellier> trism, they have completely changed it.
[00:26] <hellier> Before all I had to do was enter the server ip, pass, user and done
[00:26] <Vec_> ef5c_ef5c: This seems alrght like an entry? "/dev/mapper/data--vg-data /mnt/data ext4 auto 0 2"
[00:26] <hellier> now I have nfi
[00:27] <trism> hellier: yes, the new one is terrible, I agree with that
[00:27] <jacki> this is the output ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5815465/
[00:27] <Vec_> ef5c_ef5c: 3 at the end instead of 2, since an earlier entry had 2 as its fsck priority
[00:28] <jacki> should I reboot ?
[00:29] <jacki> pfifo ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5815465/
[00:30] <ef5c_ef5c> Vec, You should use 2 there.  The root filesystem (/) should be 0 and all others 2 (according to 'man fstab's description of the field)
[00:30] <pfifo> jacki, zykotick9 is right remove the # in fron of auto lo and auto eth0
[00:30] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, still working
[00:30] <Vec_> ef5c_ef5c: Ok ill change it to 2 then. I just rebooted and the disk was properly mounted :) You've been a great help!
[00:31] <jacki> so if I remove it will still automatically get the configration from DHCP . !
[00:31] <jacki> isn't it right ?
[00:31] <Boneheads1999> pfifo ok Ill check for msgs from you in a few
[00:31] <zykotick9> jacki: "auto eth0" does NOT mean DHCP, it means start eth0 automatically on boot.
[00:31] <jacki> oh I see
[00:31] <jacki> thanks
[00:32] <ef5c_ef5c> Vec, Glad to be of service.  '/mnt' is traditionally used for stuff that's only mounted temporarily.  If this is going to be a permanent filesystem, you might want to adjust its location.  No harm in leaving it under /mnt, but it unusual
[00:32] <zipy> how can i turn off  saving data to hd first in brasero
[00:33] <Vec_> ef5c_ef5c: Hm, makes sense.. Ill see if i can find a more suitable location for it
[00:33] <Vec_> Well im off, good night and good luck everyone
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> !details > zipy
[00:34] <ocooel> Hotspot iOS6. Any instructions or articles please?
[00:35] <reisio> zipy: s/CD/USB/ done
[00:35] <zipy> when i burn a data dvd with brasero, it saves it first to the temp folder. how can i disable it
[00:36] <jacki> pfifo and zykotick9 ; Thank you very very much indeed
[00:36] <jacki> it's working
[00:36] <jacki> :)
[00:36] <iLogical> I can't delete a folder inside my external usb HD drive, everything else about this HD works
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> iLogical, Where is it?
[00:37] <anton01> from the grub menu, after I press enter to boot ubuntu, im at my desktop in less than a second (literally). Why does it boot so fast?
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> on that deivw
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> drive
[00:37] <iLogical> http://i.imgur.com/zYZ9qVZ.png
[00:37] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, I dont like todo it this way, but since dpkg-reconfigure isnt doing what I expected, close all your browsers and run this 'sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree flashplugin-installer && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree' then retry over at youtube
[00:37] <iLogical> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5815484/
[00:37] <reisio> anton01: because you have an SSD
[00:37] <reisio> anton01: or lots of RAM
[00:38] <anton01> reisio: windows takes quite a bit longer. Why would RAM make it boot fast anyway?
[00:38] <Boneheads1999> pfifo ok one sec.
[00:38] <reisio> anton01: that goes down to the whole purpose of ram
[00:38] <reisio> anton01: is your question just why it boots faster than windows?
[00:39] <reisio> it's leaner and more efficient, and undoubtedly superiorly coded
[00:39] <anton01> reisio: i suppose so. btw ram is volatile random access memory, the data has to be loaded into it from somewhere first (ie. the harddrive)
[00:39] <reisio> it also probably was compiled with more optimizations for your specific hardware than Windows
[00:41] <anton01> I prefer windows 8 over linux. I've used these distros over the last 8 years: Red Hat, Fedora, Suse, Gentoo, Slackware, Debian, Ubuntu
[00:41] <reisio> anton01: everyone has a right to be insane :)
[00:41] <zipy> then use windows ^^
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> !tmi | anton01
[00:41] <anton01> well I'm just saiyan
[00:42] <reisio> ignoring the Windows tidbit, just the fact that you've done that much distro hopping is a sign that the problem exists somewhere between your chair
[00:42] <reisio> and your keyboard :D
[00:42] <RalieghFhang> I'm getting this error when auditing my packages, and "apt-get install --reinstall" doesn't fix it. Is it really even an issue? http://pastebin.com/z59xegsL
[00:42] <reisio> unless you use a laptop and a hammock
[00:42] <anton01> well it was 8 years, one distro change a year isnt too bad
[00:42] <reisio> in which case PEBKAH
[00:42] <Boneheads1999> pfifo ok, this happened: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5815492/
[00:42] <zipy> I prefer windows 8 over linux. I've used these distros over the last 8 years: Red Hat, Fedora, Suse, Gentoo, Slackware, Debian, Ubuntu
[00:42] <reisio> zipy: hehehe
[00:42] <zipy> i cant play my games
[00:43] <zipy> :D
[00:43] <Boneheads1999> pfifo and it still shows the message "Adobe Flash Player is required to display some elements on this page"
[00:43] <RalieghFhang> Anyone? Heh
[00:43] <anton01> though I suppose linux was fun during the learning phase but after you've learned it, what's the point? It just becomes unneccessarily time consuming
[00:44] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, ahh use this 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer'
[00:44] <pfifo> anton01 for 'dd' of course so you can image you win 8 partition and do a quick restore when it gets a virus
[00:45] <clue_h> the windows 8 tiles thing its got going on is comparable to the gui of a vtech its patronising
[00:45] <RalieghFhang> I'm getting this error when auditing my packages, and "apt-get install --reinstall" doesn't fix it. Is it really even an issue? http://pastebin.com/z59xegsL
[00:45] <anton01> yeah I use it for recovery purposes occassionally, but im more referring to Desktop
[00:46] <Boneheads1999> pfifo Ok, now it does the Could not load Shockwave Flash message.
[00:46] <rypervenche> How does one save iptables rules once configured? SO that it will survive a reboot.
[00:46] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, please pastebin the output of 'lsb-release -a'
[00:47] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, sorry 'lsb_release -a'
[00:47] <rmobenchain> I'm having some difficulties running iced tea java on a website.  Am using 13.04, and used the sudo apt install iced tea option, and still not having success
[00:47] <adie> I got a problem here, and maybe someone can help me out :<
[00:47]  * RalieghFhang shrugs and goes away again
[00:47] <thedudez0r> Hello, I'm trying to install git and I get some warning about broken dependencies. Don't know what to do next, please check http://paste.ubuntu.com/5815503/
[00:47] <adie> I am trying to make an IRC plugin which adds a count to unity launcher
[00:47] <anton01> though a good way to store porn on an external HD without worring about anyone connecting to their computer to see what's on it would be to format it with a linux FS, and access it from linux only
[00:48] <adie> it works at first, but if I unload the plugin and reload it, it crashes
[00:48] <Boneheads1999> pfifo http://paste.ubuntu.com/5815505/
[00:48] <th0r> anton01, this qualifies as tech support exactly how?
[00:48] <adie> is there something I need to do to clear it out so the program can be reloaded?
[00:48] <Ohga> hi, I want to add /root to the PATH. I put "PATH=$PATH:/root" at the end of .profile but its not working.. am I doing something wrong?
[00:48] <cicero36> server -ssl irc.anonops.com 6697
[00:49] <Corey> a/26
[00:50] <zykotick9> Ohga: ahhh /root in PATH makes no sense...
[00:50] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, are you running 32 or 64 bit?
[00:50] <Ohga> zykotick9: because..?
[00:51] <Boneheads1999> pfifo 32-bit
[00:51] <zykotick9> Ohga: well for starters 1) ubuntu doesn't even use the "root" account (the account that has permission to enter /root) and 2) /root is NOT a place to install ANYTHING
[00:52] <mnemon> Ohga: that should work.
[00:52] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, im out of ideas here, and im hungry, i need to get some food, ill be back in an hour if you want to ask again
[00:52] <Boneheads1999> ok it's 6:51 for me right now.
[00:52] <Boneheads1999> pfifo how about 7:00 my time (1 hour and 10 minutes from now)
[00:52] <Ohga> zykotick9: what I'm after is to put utility scripts there and have them globaly available
[00:52] <Ohga> now, should the line be in .profile or .bash_profile?
[00:53] <mnemon> Ohga: why don't you put the in bin or sbin? :|
[00:53] <zykotick9> Ohga: ya, use /opt for out of repo program installations
[00:53] <rmobenchain> I'm trying to play a game on chess.com but it says I need the iced tea java plugin.  I installed what I thought I needed via the terminal, but no luck.  am on 13.04
[00:53] <th0r> Ohga, put the scripts in ~/bin and then link them to /usr/local/bin
[00:53] <zykotick9> Ohga: mnemon's suggestion is bad, but it's bettern then /root that's for sure.
[00:54] <zipy> anton01, there is a windows channel #windows
[00:54] <zipy> it has 500 users :D
[00:54] <Fand> ##windows
[00:54] <anton01> but if they need tech support and theyre using windows they wouldnt exactly be the smartest bunch
[00:55] <zipy> i prefer opensource
[00:55] <mnemon> anton01: they probably aren't there for normal "tech support"
[00:56] <zipy> on my windows partition i wont even save passwords
[00:56] <anton01> but seriously, what is there to discuss about windows, you just use it to get stuff done, and you think about the OS itself hardly ever. And that's what I like about it
[00:57] <zipy> the only thing i use windows for is games maybe
[00:57] <zipy> nothing else
[00:57] <zipy> ^^
[00:57] <mnemon> anton01: if you use it to browse the internets or play some windows games then yeah.
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, You did have the browser closed or at least restarted to try again right?
[00:57] <wheatthin> tech support related to ubuntu?
[00:57] <thedudez0r> how an i start ubuntu update manager via temrinal?
[00:58] <wheatthin> thedudez0r, sudo apt-get update
[00:58] <reisio> thedudez0r: the actual gui?
[00:58] <zipy> i think he wants the gui
[00:58] <tannji> My name is Tannji.  I am a windows user.  I have been clean and secure for 90 days now.
[00:58] <thedudez0r> reisio, yes
[00:58] <rmobenchain> wilee-niles: I've had it open, then closed it and restarted numerous times to no avail.  Done it a few times
[00:58] <wheatthin> or, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:58] <reisio> thedudez0r: need to know the proc name; try running it and then running 'ps aux' in a terminal to find its name
[00:58] <thedudez0r> I've gotten the message beforeasking me to upgrade 12.10 to 13.04, but I've always clicked "later"
[00:58] <reisio> thedudez0r: heh
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, If you have more than one browser have you tried others, I would contact them maybe.
[00:59] <thedudez0r> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't work
[00:59] <thedudez0r> i mean it works but it offers no possible upgrades
[00:59] <zipy> it wont update distro
[00:59] <reisio> okay, so actually a different problem :)
[00:59] <zykotick9> !dist-upgrade | thedudez0r that is normal, dist-upgrade is very misunderstood.
[00:59] <rmobenchain> wilee-niles: I did forget to mention I am trying to do this on Chrome, and have Firefox on the computer as well
[00:59] <thedudez0r> !upgrade
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> thedudez0r, You can set software sources for all releases if it is a upgrade you want.
[01:00] <clue_h> !hud
[01:01] <thedudez0r> wilee-nilee, I hate sources.list, I somehow always end up with one that gets me in trouble, and I don't have the sklightest clue about what each repository does and which ones i need
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> thedudez0r, I don't mean the sources.list
[01:01] <thedudez0r> so i don't fiddle with the sources.list unless im sure what im going to do (eg. read it somewhere)
[01:01] <zipy> i stick to lts only
[01:02] <clue_h> same
[01:02] <zipy> but i always update to the newest ^^
[01:02] <zipy> i had to many problems the first days of a new non lts release
[01:02] <zipy> and got tired of it
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> thedudez0r, open ubuntu software center-edit-updates-bottom line-choose for any new vwrsion, then run a update with the update manager.
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> thedudez0r, I left out one thing software center-edit-software sources updates-bottom line-choose for any new vwrsion, then run a update with the update manager.
[01:04] <zipy> sudo apt-get update && sudo do-release-upgrade
[01:04] <zipy> thats for release upgrade
[01:05] <zykotick9> thedudez0r: i'd strongly recommend just using ubuntu's tool to upgrade to a new version...
[01:05] <marawan2> #ubuntu-beginners
[01:05] <zipy> me 2
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> marawan2.. /j #ubuntu-beginners
[01:05] <thedudez0r> zykotick9, and ubuntu's tool to upgrade is?
[01:05] <zipy> but he asked for terminal cmd :D
[01:06] <zykotick9> thedudez0r: ? i dunno, read the link !upgrade gave you
[01:06] <thedudez0r> zykotick9, already did. doesn't work
[01:06] <zipy> just type in update in dash
[01:06] <zipy> then go preferences
[01:06] <thedudez0r> going to try the do-release-upgrade thing
[01:06] <zykotick9> lol
 thanks bud
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> thedudez0r, For the record I gave you the standard upgrade with a gui.
[01:07] <thedudez0r> wilee-nilee, yes but you didn't mention how to open the UPDATE MANAGER, which is exactly what I asked at the start...
[01:07] <zipy> u can go to software center too
[01:08] <zipy> then edit
[01:08] <zipy> software repo
[01:08] <marawan2> does any body know why gnome mplayer doesn't save video adjustments
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> thedudez0r, In the words of BuckWheat "Otay"
[01:08] <rmobenchain> still lost
[01:08] <thedudez0r> nvm
[01:09] <marawan2> why gnome mplayer doesn't save video adjustments
[01:09] <thedudez0r> i always get this error when i do apt-get update
[01:10] <reisio> marawan2: adjustments?
[01:10] <marawan2> reisio: ya like the ones for the video contrast and britness, etc
[01:11] <marawan2> reisio: gnome mplayer always starts video missed up in color and cotrast and i have to fix it every time
[01:11] <monkeyjuice> thedudez0r:  what error
[01:11] <zipy> thedudez0r, sudo update-manager-d
[01:12] <zipy> this should get ur gui back
[01:12] <reisio> marawan2: probably have to find an rc file
[01:12] <zipy> ehm
[01:12] <zipy> with a space
[01:12] <marawan2> reisio: what is rc? where do i find it?
[01:13] <zipy> thedudez0r, sudo update-manager -d
[01:13] <thedudez0r> E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_main_binary-amd64_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[01:14] <zipy> thedudez0r, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf && sudo apt-get update
[01:15] <thedudez0r> interesting
[01:15] <zykotick9> marawan2: personally, i just use the terminal mplayer, BUT you might want to try smplayer in place of gnome-mplayer
[01:15] <thedudez0r> what was the problem exactly?
[01:16] <zipy> broken merge list
[01:16] <reisio> marawan2: man mplayer, /CONFIG
[01:16] <marawan2> zykotick9: what is terminal mplayer
[01:16] <zipy> so we just removed it
[01:16] <zipy> now u can try again update-manager -d
[01:16] <marawan2> <zykotick9. reisio i am using lubuntu
[01:17] <zykotick9> marawan2: i run mplayer (technically mplayer2) from terminal, no GUI frontends
[01:17] <reisio> marawan2: then stick with gnome-mplayer/mplayer
[01:17] <thedudez0r> ok. it's still updating
[01:18] <zipy> dont u like lts versions? :D
[01:18] <zipy> i feel like all the distros between the lts's are kind of testing out sth new distros ^^
[01:18]  * zykotick9 recalls gnome-mplayer as being rather "weak"...
[01:18] <marawan2> reisio: stick with it, no other choice
[01:19] <marawan2> ?
[01:20] <reisio> marawan2: you should be able to configure it to have the default you desire
[01:20] <reisio> or alias the application to always run with the settings you desire
[01:21] <marawan2> reisio: i doesn't! what is alias?
[01:21] <reisio> like if you tell the system to run 'foo -bar -baz' any time something asks to run 'foo'
[01:21] <zipy> alias aka same xD
[01:23] <zipy> chatzilla x)
[01:26] <Guest69410> Hi all, I am trying to upgrade my distribution from 12.04, but 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' doesn't do anything.  How can I upgrade?
[01:27] <JW1> hello?
[01:27] <reisio> hi
[01:27] <zipy> worl
[01:27] <zipy> d
[01:27] <reisio> heh
[01:28] <pfifo> for some reason im getting a timeout error here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cve
[01:29] <unpredictxx> hello
[01:29] <JW1> Any ubuntu wizards out there tonight?
[01:29] <reisio> hi
[01:29] <zipy> pfifo, same here
[01:30] <pfifo> how am i supposed to be a 1337 hacker if I cant even read the cve
[01:30] <zipy> guess it will be up again later
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> !eol | Guest69410 checl the end of life upgrades
[01:32] <Unpredictx> Hello
[01:32] <reisio> 'lo
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> Doh, from 12.04 heh at least the are gone
[01:32] <zipy> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-cve-tracker
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> JW1, If you have an issue the channel works with you stating it.
[01:34] <zipy> 3:30 am
[01:34] <zipy> time to sleep xD
[01:35] <zipy> cyas 1337 h4xx0rz
[01:35] <zipy> xD
[01:36] <JW1> Never mind, I think I found what I am looking for, I didn't know about do-release-upgrade
[01:36] <ubuntu890> hi
[01:37] <ubuntu890> is it ubuntu room?
[01:37] <clue_h> ubuntu890, yes
[01:37] <ubuntu890> plz i need help necessarily
[01:37] <JW1> Okay so I will upgrade to quantal now
[01:38] <ubuntu890> how to avoid online scripts?
[01:38] <reisio> ubuntu890: hrmm?
[01:38] <clue_h> ubuntu890, don't run them.
[01:38] <ubuntu890> i do use firefox
[01:39] <ubuntu890> i'm a member in an facebook app
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu890, noscript addon will block flash
[01:39] <ubuntu890> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-07-01_03_24_51-siYHDsWM.png
[01:39] <ubuntu890> plz see the pic and tell me what to do
[01:40] <reisio> ubuntu890: that means the file facebook.js is inferior
[01:40] <reisio> just hit stop script if you don't think you need it
[01:40] <ubuntu890> its a chat room in an app called "neatchat"
[01:40] <reisio> which is quite likely
[01:40] <pfifo> ubuntu890, i would click stop
[01:40] <ubuntu890> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-07-01_03_28_56-DAzxDEH7.png
[01:41] <clue_h> lol
[01:42] <ubuntu890> a member send me something straight as a text then i find firefox hang out
[01:42] <jacki> should I restart iptables after I modify it ?
[01:42] <ubuntu890> pfifo:when i get into the room and he sends me that words on private,,,it suddenly stop working
[01:42] <pfifo> ubuntu890, your best bet is to not use neatchat at all, it looks broken
[01:43] <ubuntu890> so the mistake is in firefox or the app?
[01:44] <jacki> pfifo ; should I restart iptables after I modify it ?
[01:44] <pfifo> ubuntu890, I think that guys is flooding you, and if so, then neatchat isnt blocking floods, which means its neatchats fault
[01:44] <reisio> ubuntu890: the mistake is most likely in the .js file itself
[01:45] <ubuntu890> is it danger on me that this guy can hack my facebook account?
[01:45] <reisio> ubuntu890: not particularly, no
[01:45] <pfifo> jacki, nope, changes take effect right away, all you may want todo is save the changes so that their applied on the next boot
[01:45] <tannji> anyone familiar with Rutebook?  is there something similar currently available?
[01:46] <ubuntu890> pfifo,reisio,wille-nilee:thanks :)
[01:46] <reisio> tannji: ?
[01:47] <clue_h> tannji, a linux manual?
[01:47] <tannji> sorta, ya...  more a list that works in a distro....
[01:48] <roasted> Question - the B43 driver, as I understand it, is an open source driver. It worked automatically out of the box on Ubuntu. I just installed kernel 3.9.4 but I lost wireless. Is B43 only included in the Ubuntu-based kernels or something?
[01:49] <tannji> reisio,  from what I understand Rutebook works like a tutorial...  but it is outdated and not maintained
[01:50] <pfifo> tannji, thats a cool book, thanks for sharing
[01:50] <reisio> tannji: which parts are outdated?
[01:50] <Foxhoundz> I changed my GPU's PCI slot from the x8 to x16
[01:51] <Foxhoundz> starting linux causes it to show 640x480 resolution
[01:51] <Foxhoundz> as if there were no drivers installed
[01:51] <Foxhoundz> what gives?
[01:51] <tannji> reisio, dont know... didnt force the install because it is not current, and I read comments that said parts were outdated
[01:51] <pfifo> roasted, that is correct, the b43 module is compiled for specific kernels, if you built your own kernel or used a ppa you will need to get matching modules
[01:52] <roasted> pfifo: perhaps if I used the saucy kernels I'd have better luck?
[01:52] <reisio> tannji: anything written is outdated
[01:52] <jacki> which command shows me the current iptable rules ?
[01:53] <jeffmr> does anyone know what the appropriate url from source would be to feed get_flash_videos from http://viooz.co/movies/11633-the-dark-knight-rises-2012.html?
[01:53] <tannji> reisio,  true enough  = )
[01:53] <pfifo> roasted, sometimes you can get a module to load into a kernel its not made for, but at the cost of stability
[01:54] <deckard> hello. in my home folder there is an example.decktop file. can i delete it? what is t?
[01:55] <varunendra> roasted, the b43 driver actually never works out-of-box. It always needs proprietary driver to work. It would have been the alternate brcmsmac that worked instead.
[01:55] <varunendra> sorry, proprietary firmware
[01:55] <reisio> http://static4.viooz.co/player/plugins/proxy.swf
[01:55] <Fand> how can i install ubuntu with only with cli and no gui?
[01:55] <roasted> varunendra: whatever it was, I did nothing. It worked out of the box.
[01:55] <pfifo> Fand, your looking for either the alternate install cd or simply the debootstrap program
[01:56] <varunendra> roasted, do you know exactly what chip you are using? (lspci -nn)
[01:56] <darkfrog> I'm currently running Ubuntu in vmware on Windows 8 and was testing trying to run it outside of the VM but I have three monitors and cannot seem to get them to lay out like they do in vmware.  I simply want a primary desktop and the ability to drag windows between the screens...is this simply not possible in Gnome 3?
[01:56] <roasted> varunendra: 43224
[01:56] <lfaraone> I have two PDFs of the same document; one generated by a word processor (so with selectable text), and one scanned (with physical signature). Can I combine them so the image shown is the former but its still searchable etc (has a text layer)?
[01:57] <Fand> pfifo: okey thank you
[01:57] <varunendra> roasted, run "lspci -nn". Is it's id "14e4:a8d8" ??
[01:57] <roasted> varunendra: I might try swapping this out with an intel chip I have handy. Last time I tried this on another Lenovo it failed because Lenovo whitelists their wifi cards.
[01:57] <roasted> varunendra: no, 14e4:0576
[01:58] <pfifo> !xrandr | darkfrog
[01:59] <varunendra> roasted, it is not yet tested with b43 it seems, but is supposed to work with both the brcmsmac and the sta (wl) drivers : http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[01:59] <roasted> varunendra: I understood B43 was used by the 43224.
[01:59] <roasted> varunendra: which stands to reason against the fact I did nothing on a fresh install and I had wireless magically working.
[01:59] <roasted> unlike STA which requires installation.
[01:59] <darkfrog> pfifo and ubottu: thanks guys!
[02:00] <darkfrog> I tried the xrandr graphical utility but it seemed seriously lacking...command-line should work better.
[02:01] <varunendra> roasted, it gets loaded, but needs firmware to work. In such case, the brcmsmac gets loaded (as much as I understand) and gets listed as "brcm-pci-bridge" (or something similar) in "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net".
[02:02] <roasted> varunendra: is that to suggest I just need to install some firmware over hardwire, reboot, and it'll work?
[02:02] <varunendra> roasted, in any case, if it is not working out-of-box, you may try the wl driver. Do you have a cable connection available?
[02:03] <varunendra> roasted, since b43 is listed as "Not tested yet", I can't say if it'll work yet.
[02:04] <roasted> varunendra: I do, but I've had issues with the STA chip in the past.
[02:04] <varunendra> FYI, b43 is reverse-engineered driver, brcmsmac is open source and wl is closed source proprietary one. Some chips are supported by all of them.
[02:04] <roasted> varunendra: I think what I'll do is swap the wireless card out and *hope* Lenovo didn't foolishly whitelist only 1 wifi chip to work in this laptop like they do countless other models.
[02:05] <roasted> varunendra: and, if it is whitelisted, trash it because lenovo is lol.
[02:05] <PashaPasta> lenovo is better than HP, Gateway, Sony, Acer and several others :)
[02:05] <varunendra> roasted, well, if you wish to try b43 itself, you can install the "linux-firmware-nonfree" package.
[02:06] <roasted> PashaPasta: keep telling yourself that. I deal with them on an enterprise level. It aint pretty.
[02:06] <varunendra> PashaPasta, but the "whitelist" things tick me off, be it lenovo or anything else.
[02:06] <PashaPasta> roasted: as do I
[02:06] <roasted> varunendra: nailed it.
[02:06] <roasted> Very foolish tactics by that company.
[02:06] <roasted> But this is going OT, so, I'll fold here.
[02:06] <Boneheads1999> pfifo are you online?
[02:07] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, yeah
[02:07] <rick_> hello all, can I use pivot_root to make one program reference glibc and related libraries in a new root and return it's display to Xorg that runs in old root?
[02:07] <Boneheads1999> pfifo Ok so any ideas?
[02:07] <pfifo> rick_, i think you might need vnc for that
[02:08] <Boneheads1999> pfifo By the way I'm the guy with the flash problems. "could not load shockwave flash" in chrome
[02:10] <varunendra> roasted, I'd suggest to give b43 a try first, if it fails to work, then try wl. For the firmware - "sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree"
[02:11] <rick_> pfifo, I have a binary that comes with a bunch of libraries and a glibc, I use ubuntu 10.04 that uses another glibc. I don't know exactly how to use my 10.04 but run that binary and make it reference it's original libraries and glibc.
[02:11] <roasted> varunendra: I already got my atheros card out I had stashed away. Thought it was Intel, but Atheros is equally awesome. I'm going to swap it out first and see if they have this unit ridiculously whitelisted as well. IF not, win, if so, another reason to avoid Lenovo or do some intense research before ordering next time.
[02:11] <roasted> varunendra: gotta power down for this though, brb in a few.
[02:11] <varunendra> :)
[02:12] <bashang> hi
[02:12] <bashang> i'm having trouble getting right click to work on my laptop touchpad.
[02:13] <bashang> I looked in the forums and couldn't find anything.  Anybody have this same issue?  I'm working with a clean install.
[02:13] <pfifo> rick_, ld will use libraries that it finds in the directory the program is in before using system libraries, so just put all of it in its on directory and run it from there
[02:14] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, for the life of me i cannot find libflashplayer.so on my system, let me run a search
[02:15] <roasted> varunendra: oh look at this. This one is whitelisted too. Yet another Lenovo tossed aside on the shelf.
[02:15] <Boneheads1999> pfifo Lol ok xD
[02:15] <Boneheads1999> pfifo By the way thanks for all the help so far, most people give up on like the 3rd solution
[02:16] <rick_> pfifo, should I do chroot related things?
[02:17] <bashang> hello?  can anybody see this?
[02:17] <bashang> am i invisible
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> no
[02:17] <pfifo> rick_, no
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> bashang, Details are the key, what you have done so far...etc
[02:18] <bashang> i did a clean install off the latest binary on a PC laptop, and the click doesn't work at all
[02:18] <bashang> i'm a newbie
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> bashang, latest binary, what release?
[02:18] <bashang> 12.04 LTS
[02:19] <torresst63> Olá galera, boa noite!
[02:19] <rick_> pfifo, thanks!
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> bashang, Have you looked in mouse & touchpad?
[02:20] <jacki> pfifo ; I have add a rule to allow ssh on port 22, but I cannot make ssh connection
[02:20] <jacki> !!
[02:20] <bashang> yea.  i didn't see any options for right click
[02:20] <bashang> or rather, there were
[02:20] <bashang> but no "on/off"
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> bashang, What is the computer model?
[02:21] <torresst63> alguém pode me dizer se há como mudar o lançador do ubuntu para a parte inferior da tela?
[02:22] <bashang> Asus A55C
[02:22] <bashang> wilee-nilee, i really appreciate the tech support, but i don't want to make you do that.  i'm more interested in knowing if anybody else has had this issue
[02:22] <bashang> because it's a clean install so i'm sure it's gotta have a fix already published
[02:23] <kostkon_> !pt | torresst63
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> !pt | torresst63
[02:23] <torresst63> Ok
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> bashang, That is polling the channel is support.
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> not the same
[02:24] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, well, flash player isnt working on my system either now, it looks like the package is broken
[02:25] <Boneheads1999> pfifo Oh man
[02:25] <varunendra> bashang, what
[02:25] <varunendra> what's the problem? bashang
[02:25] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, luckly doing it the unofficial way is SUPER easy compared to all the crap ubuntu puts us poor users through
[02:26] <Boneheads1999> pfifo Ok well what should I do to get flash woRKING
[02:26] <Boneheads1999> pfifo lol sorry I'm sorta high
[02:26] <jacki> please someone help me, I am not able to ssh to my server
[02:27] <jacki> I have a virtual ubuntu 12.04, it is accepting port 22 but I cannot make ssh connection
[02:28] <bashang> wilee-nilee, what's polling the channel?
[02:28] <KernelPanicMK2> check ufw status
[02:28] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, go here, from the drop down select the "tar.gz for other linux" http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/?no_redirect
[02:28] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, download it
[02:29] <Boneheads1999> pfifo Sorry was in the restroom
[02:29] <Boneheads1999> pfifo Ok, one sec
[02:31] <Boneheads1999> pfifo I downloaded it now what
[02:31] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, make a tmp folder and mv the tarball into it, then extract the archive
[02:32] <jacki> how can I stop ufw ?
[02:32] <Boneheads1999> pfifo I'm sorry but all I got from that was make a tmp folder
[02:32] <Boneheads1999> pfifo I'm very (few days) new to linux sorry
[02:33] <jacki> I don't even have ufw running on my machine
[02:33] <jacki> !
[02:34] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, navigate to the directory you downloaded the file to then something like so 'mkdir tmp' then 'mv install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz tmp/' then 'cd tmp/' then 'ar xzf install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz'
[02:34] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, that last command should be 'tar xzf install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz'
[02:35] <Boneheads1999> pfifo K thanks
[02:35] <derp_> sup fools
[02:38] <Boneheads1999> pfifo after doing the 'mv -install flash file-' it gives me:
[02:38] <Boneheads1999> pfifo mv: cannot stat `install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz': No such file or directory
[02:39] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, navigate to the directory you downloaded the tarball to, most likely 'Downloads'
[02:39] <Boneheads1999> pfifo, I know it's open in file manager.. thats what I have to do right?  Or should I navigate to it in terminal
[02:41] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, you can do all this in a file manager if you want
[02:41] <Boneheads1999> Ok
[02:41] <Boneheads1999> pfifo ok
[02:42] <Boneheads1999> So just open it with archive manager
[02:43] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, cant help you there, I dont use a GUI
[02:43] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, extract the tarball however it is done in GUI
[02:43] <Boneheads1999> extract to where?
[02:43] <Boneheads1999> pfifo Extract to Where?
[02:43] <pfifo> Boneheads1999,  anywhere
[02:43] <Boneheads1999> pfifo k
[02:44] <SonikkuAmerica> Boneheads1999: Hopefully not in /
[02:44] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, your going to delete it on step 7
[02:44] <marawan2> could someone just give me more info about this nepomuk cleaner software?
[02:44] <SonikkuAmerica> Boneheads1999: Does flashplugin-installer not work for you?
[02:45] <SonikkuAmerica> marawan2: I have a feeling that #kubuntu might help you more, as nepomuk tends to be a KDE sort of thing.
[02:45] <pfifo> SonikkuAmerica, nope, not for me either
[02:45] <Boneheads1999> SonikkuAmerica not sure
[02:45] <SonikkuAmerica> pfifo: Odd... 12.04 ?
[02:45] <Boneheads1999> SonikkuAmerica I don't think it does
[02:45] <SonikkuAmerica> !info flashplugin-installer
[02:46] <SonikkuAmerica> Boneheads1999, pfifo: Have either of you enabled multiverse to begin with?
[02:46] <pfifo> SonikkuAmerica, yep 12.04 32 bit, fresh install 100% updated, adobe must have moved theri tar.gz file
[02:46] <pfifo> SonikkuAmerica, yes, main, uni and multi
[02:47] <SonikkuAmerica> pfifo: Weird. (I couldn't tell you because I use pepflashplugin-installer with Chromium.)
[02:47] <SonikkuAmerica> pfifo: How about Canonical Partners?
[02:47] <Boneheads1999> SonikkuAmerica I just got this computer 3 days ago so it might have multiverse on it.  I haven't so probably no
[02:47] <SonikkuAmerica> pfifo: (I believe that's where it's hiding these days)
[02:47] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, you should have gotten a file out of the archive, libflashplayer.so
[02:47] <Boneheads1999> Ok what do I do with libflashplayer.so
[02:48] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, make a directory in your home folder, "mkdir -p ~/.mozilla/plugins"
[02:48] <Boneheads1999> Ok now what
[02:48] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, then move it into that folder, 'cp libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/'
[02:49] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, restart browsers and hopefully, it doesnt crash like mine is (i suspect yours will work i have too many plugins)
[02:50] <ubuntu890> How to Add Firewall Rule:net.ipv4.tcp_synack_retries = 1
[02:50] <ubuntu890> ?
[02:50] <Boneheads1999> Should I just stick libflashplayer.so in mozilla/plugins
[02:50] <Boneheads1999> because terminals being weird
[02:50] <James_Epp> Making a bash script. What is the equivalent of winblows 'pause' ?
[02:51] <SonikkuAmerica> Boneheads1999: Yep. Dump it into your ~/.mozilla/plugins/ dir.
[02:51] <jrib> James_Epp: sleep?
[02:51] <Boneheads1999> SonikkuAmerica lol sorry but whats ~? Like where's the .mozilla folder
[02:51] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, take careful note of the period pefore mozilla
[02:52] <James_Epp> jrib: I hoping for one that waits for user input.
[02:52] <jrib> James_Epp: read...?
[02:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Boneheads1999: ~ is your home folder.
[02:52] <pfifo> James_Epp, use 'read' then
[02:53] <Boneheads1999> SonikkuAmerica all thats in the home folder is user
[02:54] <James_Epp> pfifo: jrib TY :D
[02:55] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, ~ is a cli shortcut, navigate to your home foler manually in your file browser
[02:56] <Boneheads1999> pfifo OOHH The problem was .mozilla was hidden
[02:57] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, ohh, yeah, the period at the beginning hides stuff
[02:57] <James_Epp> so I have a question. I'm in a user terminal in home directory. There is a file that exists called Backup.sh. If I enter the capital 'B' and press tab, it finds nothing. I get not found if I do exec Backup.sh. However, if I do exec /home/user/Backup.sh it works. Why is this?
[02:57] <Boneheads1999> pfifo Ok I've done it.  libflashplayer.so is in ~/mozilla/plugins
[02:57] <Boneheads1999> but Now
[02:57] <bashang> hey has anybody had trouble with righ click on ubuntu?
[02:57] <Boneheads1999> will that do anything for chrome
[02:57] <Boneheads1999> bashang no
[02:58] <pfifo> James_Epp, its not offering it up as a option since its not executable
[02:58] <James_Epp> pfifo: But I am in the home folder where the file also is. Therefore, it should autocomplete regardless.
[02:58] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, chrom is smarter than firefox, it will find it
[02:58] <Boneheads1999> pfifo lol k
[02:59] <pfifo> James_Epp, its not going to auto complete with something thats invalid
[02:59] <djshotglass> trying to build compat-wireless
[02:59] <Boneheads1999> pfifo I shall brutally take somebody's head off.  It doesnt work
[02:59] <djshotglass> need kernel sources
[02:59] <James_Epp> Hmm. Interesting. I dislike that design :/
[02:59] <Boneheads1999> pfifo could. not. load. shockwave. flash.
[02:59] <djshotglass> is this linux-source package?
[02:59] <Boneheads1999> pfifo Dang what next
[02:59] <James_Epp> Boneheads1999: Are you trying to get flash working?
[03:00] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, download an older tarball and do the same thing
[03:00] <Boneheads1999> James_Epp yeah
[03:00] <Boneheads1999> pfifo Where's an older tarball
[03:00] <James_Epp> Boneheads1999: I use this string on new installations: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install ubuntu-restricted-extras openjdk-7-jre icedtea-7-plugin && sudo reboot
[03:01] <Boneheads1999> pfifo Should I do what James_Epp said
[03:01] <Boneheads1999> James_Epp thanks I might try it
[03:01] <James_Epp> Maybe remove the sudo reboot and do that manually, though.
[03:02] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, if the package wasnt broken then what James_Epp said would usually work
[03:02] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html
[03:03] <Boneheads1999> pfifo k
[03:03] <James_Epp> perhaps an apt-get -y autoremove or an apt-get install -f ?
[03:03] <James_Epp> Heck, maybe an apt-get -y purge ubuntu-restricted-extras would help
[03:03] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, im not wasting 60 megs of my mobil bandwith to download an archive, I would try 10.3.183.75
[03:04] <pfifo> James_Epp, we did
[03:04] <James_Epp> You did reboot after the purge, right?
[03:04] <pfifo> James_Epp, for flash, no, wouldnt do anything
[03:05] <James_Epp> Can't hurt, can it? I'm thinking with the amounts of purging you guys are doing it may help...
[03:06] <pfifo> James_Epp, in the end, after doing the install again, no where on my system is there a libflashplayer.so, there isnt even an entry in /etc/alternatives
[03:06] <James_Epp> Beyond my knowledge
[03:06]  * James_Epp backs out
[03:07] <bashang> is there a version of ubuntu for homosexuals like me?
[03:07] <bashang> like, rainbows and stuff
[03:07] <bashang> lots of pink
[03:07] <bashang> map of highway rest stops in my area
[03:08] <Boneheads1999> pfifo the playerglobal.swc archives or what
[03:08] <pfifo> bashang, have you checked gnome-loog.org
[03:08] <pfifo> gnime-look.org
[03:08] <pfifo> gnome-look.org
[03:09] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, further down
[03:09] <delinquentme> can a dir have multiple owners per chown?
[03:09] <bashang> pfifo thanks i'll check it out!
[03:09] <ubuntu890> plz,how to get rid of DDos attacks?
[03:09] <pfifo> delinquentme, not with ext2/3/4 or reiserfs
[03:10] <pfifo> ubuntu890, call your ISP, they have todo it
[03:10] <Boneheads1999> pfifo I'll do it tomorrow morning
[03:11] <Boneheads1999> pfifo If I need your help tomorrow what time do you think youll be on
[03:11] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, before you do, try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure --force flashplugin-installer' it could be fixed by then
[03:12] <pfifo> Boneheads1999, I plan to be on tomorrow
[03:12] <Boneheads1999> ok cool
[03:12] <Boneheads1999> pfifo ok cool
[03:18] <RalieghFhang> Can't hurt to ask since #PHP is invite-only; anyone here any good with said language?
[03:18] <bazhang> !register | RalieghFhang
[03:18] <xangua> !register | RalieghFhang
[03:19] <fatNERD> how can I install ubuntu 12.04 to my kindle fire hd
[03:19] <Diazo> In Ubuntu is there anyway to check for crash reports?
[03:19] <bazhang> it is not invite only RalieghFhang
[03:19] <xangua> fatNERD: you don't
[03:19] <fatNERD> is there a way?
[03:19] <RalieghFhang> Ah, server didn't tell me that I wasn't registered.
[03:19] <fatNERD> cuz I want to run a server on it
[03:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Diazo: To check for them? As in...?
[03:22] <Diazo> SonikkuAmerica, As in I noticed if I'm downloading such a distribution through a torrent and the aspect of my network crashing. A small notification pops-up saying something about Whoopsie.
[03:23] <Diazo> Trying to see what's making my network crash cause when it crashes I have to reboot in order to continue using the Internet.
[03:23] <Golfgeo> Hi all, is there an "official" type of webcamstudio/manycam availible for ubuntu 12.04?
[03:24] <SonikkuAmerica> Diazo: Did you click on Whoopsie?
[03:25] <Diazo> SonikkuAmerica, I would but it wasn't a graphical dialog more like those transparent notification pop-ups.
[03:25] <djono> hello my wireless randomly disconnects in ubuntu
[03:25] <Diazo> SonikkuAmerica, This is somewhat like the issue I'm having: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1098286
[03:26] <Diazo> I know it's a bug but I'm trying to find out if there's a workaround temporarily.
[03:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Diazo: Run [ ubuntu-bug linux ] and see if you can generate a backtrace.
[03:27] <JW1> Hi all, I have just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and now my display is all messed up, there is no sidebar or top bar, I had to use the Ctrl-Alt-T shortcut to launch terminal.  How can this problem be fixed?
[03:28] <Diazo> SonikkuAmerica, Hehe is that like a command or something?
[03:28] <SonikkuAmerica> Diazo: Yep
[03:28] <Diazo> kk checking
[03:30] <JW1> I guess the problem is with my display manager.  How can I fix the display manager so that I get a sidebar and a top bar menu again?
[03:31] <Diazo> Ran it but don't know what I'm looking for.
[03:35] <Iravan> .
[03:41] <ur0pl> hi there
[03:41] <ur0pl> is there a GUI program for mounting windows shares?
[03:41] <somsip> ur0pl: most of the file managers will do it
[03:42] <splinter701> ur0pl 'disk utility' (12.04) or 'disks' (13.04) should help as well
[03:42] <ur0pl> i am using thundr
[03:42] <ur0pl> i guess it isn't a good one
[03:42] <ur0pl> cause it aint got it
[03:43] <somsip> ur0pl: what version of ubuntu?
[03:43] <ur0pl> xubuntu 12.4
[03:44] <ur0pl> hat is a better file maanger?
[03:44] <somsip> ur0pl: have you tried this: http://is.gd/BI4498
[03:45] <Rarrikins> How do I set up UPnP so that a router will forward port 22 to the SSH server on a computer?
[03:46] <ur0pl> somsip thank you, that is most helpful
[03:47] <somsip> ur0pl: np
[03:48] <Programmer_> host    "*"             "msf"           127.0.0.1/32            md5
[03:48] <Programmer_> why is that wrong?
[03:49] <somsip> Programmer_: what is it? Reminds me of postgres conf...
[03:49] <Seegee> Hey there, does anyone know where I can ask about networking, hardware firewalls, switches, and such?
[03:49] <somsip> Seegee: try ##hardware
[03:49] <bashang> bazhang
[03:50] <Programmer_> it is postgres
[03:50] <somsip> Programmer_: then it's best to ask in the postgres channel
[03:50] <somsip> !alis | Programmer_
[03:50] <Programmer_> ?
[03:50] <Seegee> I cant send messages in ##hardware ;(\
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> !register | Seegee
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> Seegee, Some channels require you to be registered, after a couple of weeks you can ask #freenode for a cloak as well.
[03:54] <Seegee> Thanks, I got it :D
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> cool, enjoy
[03:55] <rypervenche> Programmer_: Are you running Backtrack?
[03:55] <Programmer_> no
[03:55] <Programmer_> ubuntu
[03:59] <KriShaNsin> once  we have our 13.04 desktop installed. i know that if i terminal sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop , then on reboot i can choose it from the login menu. is xubuntu the same way? can i just install it from terminal and then shoose it if i want from login? and can i still run the unity desktop if i choose?
[04:00] <greg__>  Hi all... I just now today finally broke free of windows and have lubuntu running without a hitch....except... I'm having a very difficult time getting executable files to actually execute.  Is there a plugin or something that I'm missing
[04:00] <somsip> KriShaNsin: yes
[04:00] <KriShaNsin> greg__: you need wine to run exe files i think
[04:00] <somsip> greg__: what do you mean by 'executables'?
[04:01] <greg__> like unetbootin, copy trans manager...things like that
[04:01] <KriShaNsin> greg__: you should be able to "launch" any application from your "dash"
[04:01] <somsip> greg__: explain what problem you have with unetbootin
[04:01] <greg__> I've been trying to use pacman, but it seems picky
[04:02] <greg__> I resolved unetbootin
[04:02] <somsip> greg__: pacman is an arch package manager. Why are you using that in ubuntu?
[04:02] <greg__> but had to use terminal to do it
[04:02] <somsip> so tell us a problem you are having and what it looks like
[04:03] <greg__> I could only manage that because I found step by step instructions specifically to that
[04:03] <greg__> I thought it came default
[04:03] <greg__> I don't recall adding it
[04:04] <somsip> greg__: and copytransmanager appears to be windows or mac. So you're maybe missing a point somewhere here
[04:04] <KriShaNsin> if i install Xubuntu from terminal, and after using it decide that i dont want it, should i just leave it there for if i change my mind? can i remove Xubuntu if i decide not to keep it? what packages will i have to manually remove if so? basically is it a big deal if i get it and dont like it? can it easily be removed or if i keep it on my system will it cause any problems? has it caused any issues for others?
[04:05] <greg__> I download an executable file... something intended to install a program...if I double click it may do nothing or may default to archive manager, which usually give an error since it's not a zip file its an .exe
[04:05] <greg__> ah...maybe... I thought it was to good to be true that it's universal
[04:05] <somsip> KriShaNsin: I can only point you here for limited info on unistalling http://is.gd/NBnwb0
[04:05] <KriShaNsin> greg__: .exe can only run in wine on ubuntu i think
[04:05] <greg__> ..thanks everyone
[04:05] <coolbuddy> how can i solve """ required kernel toshiba support not enabled. """
[04:06] <somsip> greg__: .exe files are windows executables. see !wine
[04:06] <somsip> coolbuddy: install the toshiba module possibly. What model?
[04:07] <coolbuddy> somsip: satellite pro c650
[04:07] <somsip> coolbuddy: what version of ubuntu?
[04:08] <coolbuddy> somsip: 12.04 lts
[04:08] <coolbuddy> somsip: i'm trying to run toshset
[04:12] <somsip> coolbuddy: This came up recently here. This was the thread I pointed the user to, but you'll have to see what you can dig out of it to help in your case http://is.gd/eERaU0
[04:14] <coolbuddy> somsip: digging from yesterday... thanks for the help though
[04:15] <somsip> coolbuddy: np
[04:16] <jack> hello
[04:16] <KriShaNsin> hey somsip, i am runnin 13.04 just fine with no issues. i am not sure about installing Xubuntu. it seems that there may be some issues with pakage dependecies upon removal that i dont want to deal with. that being said, i am on a netbook and using less RAm would be cool. I tried Lubuntu and it was cool at first, but it had some bugs , netbook version. didnt work for me for some reason. i am excited about its future , but not now. so if ringtail
[04:16] <KriShaNsin> main is running ok then, im 50/50 on trying xubuntu. what do oyu think?
[04:17] <somsip> KriShaNsin: what are you wanting to establish in running xubuntu?
[04:18] <KriShaNsin> somsip: just trying to test drive it is all really. but if doing so requires me to have to do a lot of stuff  to remove is later then i will wait for my othger laptop to get here i think.= test drive
[04:18] <somsip> KriShaNsin: for a test drive, maybe installed to a VM and see if you like it. No harm done then
[04:18] <root> hello
[04:19] <somsip> !root | root (if you are)
[04:19] <KriShaNsin> somsip: right. so then today i will be learning how to do a VM install. god i love this Ubuntu stuff. there is never an end to what i need to learn and i embrace it all. thanks then and bbl
[04:19] <somsip> !ircroot | root
[04:19] <somsip> oh I give up
[04:19] <somsip> KriShaNsin: np
[04:21] <somsip> !rootirc | root
[04:23] <wheatthin>  hey, I've been looking all over the place, but there's menu.lst so I can set my framebuffer resolution in 13.04
[04:28] <babinlonston> How to set a static ip in ubutu 12.04 , always resolv.conf was overwritten by dhcp how can i set it permently after a reboot , tried googling for last 2 days each and every solutions not fixing for me
[04:29] <somsip> babinlonston: edit /etc/networks/interfaces
[04:29] <babinlonston> alreay done
[04:29] <somsip> babinlonston: paste it then
[04:29] <somsip> !paste | babinlonston
[04:29] <babinlonston> wait
[04:31] <babinlonston> address 192.168.1.76 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 192.168.1.1
[04:31] <babinlonston> this is my manually configured one
[04:31] <somsip> babinlonston: that's not the full file. Please use pastebin and post the full file
[04:32] <babinlonston> oh its in other PC
[04:32] <babinlonston> so i typed here
[04:33] <babinlonston> at first line auto lo , iface lo inet loopback , iface eth0 inet static
[04:33] <somsip> babinlonston: missed line "auto eth0" before "iface eth0 inet static"
[04:34] <babinlonston> k lrt me try
[04:35] <wheatthin> !fbset
[04:36] <Ari-Yang> I have a question, what does it mean when my broadcam card says is marked as "no (WIP)" in this chart? http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices
[04:36] <Ari-Yang> it's a BCM4313
[04:36] <Ari-Yang> does it just mean that the driver won't work (I won't have wifi or anything)
[04:37] <somsip> Ari-Yang: Work In Progress maybe?
[04:37] <Ari-Yang> ah, is that what it stands for? okay
[04:37] <somsip> Ari-Yang: I'm guessing, but it does make sense
[04:38] <babinlonston> resolvconf:Error:/etc/resolv.conf isn't a symlink, not doing anything  reciving this error now while i restart the network using command /sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:38] <somsip> babinlonston: and is /etc/resolv.conf a symlink?
[04:39] <babinlonston> i deleted it and now created a new resolv.conf
[04:39] <somsip> babinlonston: On mine: /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[04:39] <somsip> babinlonston: do you still have the file at /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf?
[04:40] <babinlonston> etc/resolv.conf
[04:40] <babinlonston> yes i have
[04:41] <somsip> babinlonston: and is it the one you created or does it look complete? If it might be the complete correct one, remake the symlink
[04:41] <babinlonston> its created by me
[04:42] <somsip> Mine has one entry which is probably picked up from /etc/networks/interfaces: nameserver 192.168.1.1
[04:42] <somsip> So maybe if you recreate the symlink to a file that has a similar entry in /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf it might work. Lots of nasty fiddly messing about though...
[04:42] <babinlonston> how can i do
[04:43] <somsip> babinlonston: which part?
[04:43] <babinlonston> now im facing the error na how to solve it
[04:43] <somsip> babinlonston: I'm not understanding what you need now
[04:43] <babinlonston> i created the resolv.conf file manually , now its showing error as symbolic link
[04:44] <somsip> babinlonston: because it should not be a file. It should be a symlink to /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[04:44] <babinlonston> oh how can i create it guide me pls
[04:44] <raven> i made a while loop to display changing playlists with mplayer but randomly it does not restart any more and script hangs up with "exiting... (End of file)" - any idea?
[04:44] <somsip> babinlonston: does a file exist at /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf and what is the contents?
[04:45] <babinlonston> no file under run/resolvconf
[04:46] <RalieghFhang> Okay! Very weird stuff going on here. I have a directory listed under home/user right? Filezilla shows it perfectly. However I cannot enter it or delete it. Yet using mkdir I cannot create that directory name either
[04:46] <somsip> babinlonston: so create one with a nameserver entry in it like I just pasted
[04:46] <babinlonston> ok
[04:46] <RalieghFhang> Yes I've refreshed, no it's not a shortcut/symlink, I've even rebooted.
[04:47] <babinlonston> then i have to create a link towards ln -s /etc/resolv.conf
[04:47] <somsip> babinlonston: you got it
[04:47] <RalieghFhang> Anyone?
[04:47] <babinlonston> thx sir
[04:48] <somsip> RalieghFhang: what are the dir permissions?
[04:48] <RalieghFhang> 775
[04:48] <somsip> RalieghFhang: user:group ?
[04:48] <RalieghFhang> I'm running as root on SFTP and terminal anyhow.
[04:49] <somsip> RalieghFhang: then SFTP maybe does not have write access out of a protected directory
[04:49] <RalieghFhang> That I'm unsure of. Nor how to find it.
[04:49] <RalieghFhang> No it does, I've moved and tinkered with many things in it's parent directory /home/shoutcast
[04:49] <somsip> RalieghFhang: some config file somewhere. I'd guess /etc/sftp.conf but that's just a wild guess based on common sense
[04:49] <RalieghFhang> Can even right now. Just this folder that exists but can't be removed or accessed.
[04:49] <babinlonston> showing as grep: /etc/resolv.conf : Too many leveles of symbolic links
[04:50] <somsip> babinlonston: what has caused that error?
[04:51] <babinlonston> after creating a resolv.conf file under /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf    , i maked a link file using command ln -s /resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf after restarting im getting this error grep: /etc/resolv.conf : Too many leveles of symbolic links
[04:52] <somsip> babinlonston: ln -s /etc/resolve.conf /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf (though I often get these two the wrong way round first time I do it)
[04:53] <babinlonston> then how can i do it
[04:53] <somsip> babinlonston: I just posted it for you. C'mon....
[04:53] <zacts> does dist-upgrade actually work?
[04:54] <babinlonston> kk
[04:54] <zacts> I preferably would like to install ubuntu once, and never have to install it again
[04:54] <babinlonston> got it
[04:54] <somsip> babinlonston: just ls -la /etc/res* to make sure it points at /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[04:54] <zacts> I'm currently using arch linux, but don't like the breakage.
[04:55] <somsip> zacts: I installed 10.10 and have do-dist-upgrade on each release to 12.04 and only had a few problems easy to fix. Most people recommend a fresh install and not a do-dist-upgrade
[04:56] <zacts> wow ok, cool
[04:57] <RalieghFhang> Someone PLEASE help me out with this.
[04:57] <RalieghFhang> http://pastebin.com/UBVxb8Ze
[04:57] <ninjaaron> eh, I'm a totall ftp newb, and I just installed vsftpd on my 12.04 server. set "local_enable=YES" and "write_enable=YES". I can connect to the server and transfer files from it, but trying to transfer to it fails. I'm not sure what the problem is. It could be clientside, I guess (Filezilla on Arch).
[04:57] <v1c3> Hello, I cant ping my ubuntu-server in my laptop. I have internetaccess from the server.
[04:57] <v1c3> Hello, I cant ping my ubuntu-server in my NETWORK. I have internetaccess from the server.
[04:58] <somsip> RalieghFhang: paste ls -la on /home/shoucast
[04:59] <v1c3> What can I do, I have no idea. I dont have access to sambaservices either
[05:00] <RalieghFhang> somsip: http://pastebin.com/Nuye8wm6    This is without a real Test folder in there. Just the fake one.
[05:00] <RalieghFhang> Ahh, it shows Test?
[05:00] <RalieghFhang> How the hell do I go about deleting that? Haha
[05:00] <babinlonston> resolv.conf created
[05:00] <babinlonston> but the IP overwritten now too after a restart
[05:00] <somsip> RalieghFhang: what does sudo rm -rf Tes* do?
[05:01] <somsip> babinlonston: what do you mean that the IP is overwritten? What IP, where?
[05:01] <RalieghFhang> rmdir actually worked once I appended it with that question mark
[05:01] <babinlonston> sorry not IP
[05:01] <babinlonston> resolv.conf
[05:01] <RalieghFhang> Do you perhaps know what's wrong with my script then?
[05:02] <somsip> babinlonston: Is the IP now static? Isn't that the end goal?
[05:02] <babinlonston> i set the name server as 8.8.8.8 192.168.1.1 but after restart its changing and its
[05:02] <babinlonston> no i want to change the nameserver to 8.8.8.8 192.168.1.1 cos the net is too slow while i browse
[05:03] <babinlonston> need to set static nameserver too sir
[05:03] <somsip> babinlonston: 11:28 < babinlonston> How to set a static ip in ubutu 12.04
[05:03] <somsip> babinlonston: so I'm not wasting my time any more. Good luck finding a solution
[05:03] <somsip> RalieghFhang: have you reran the script now the dodgy dir is gone?
[05:04] <babinlonston> yes i setted sir and that was worked for me , but when ever i use command ifconfig  its shows as 192.168.1.104 or 107 as my ip
[05:04] <babinlonston> lol thanks for that
[05:04] <babinlonston> Sorry for wasting ur time and knowlege bye
[05:15] <wheatthin> does ubuntu kernel have load balancing for network devices? or is there another way to configure it?
[05:17] <somsip> wheatthin: linux kernel seems to support it. You may need to read more http://is.gd/QkNjka
[05:19] <v1c3> Hello, I cant ping my ubuntu-server in my NETWORK. On the ubuntu-server I have full network access. Can anybody help me please? I
[05:20] <wheatthin> v1c3, do you have a firewall enabled?
[05:20] <v1c3> wheatthin: i didnt. maybe the standard ubuntu-server installation did?
[05:21] <wheatthin> v1c3, dmesg | grep ufw
[05:22] <v1c3> wheatthin: nothing..
[05:22] <v1c3> wheatthin: I am not able to ping other hosts in my LAN
[05:22] <wheatthin> are you currently on the machine you're trying to ping?
[05:22] <v1c3> from ubuntu-server..
[05:23] <v1c3> yes, I am currantly on a host in my LAN trying to ping to ubuntu-server
[05:24] <wheatthin> do you have a valid IP address on the server?
[05:24] <v1c3> ip addr didnt show an ip. but networkmanager-applet did..
[05:25] <wheatthin> v1c3,   ifconfig
[05:25] <v1c3> shoes the correct address..
[05:25] <wheatthin> hmm
[05:25] <v1c3> *shoWs
[05:25] <wheatthin> v1c3,   cat /var/log/ufw.log
[05:26] <v1c3> empty
[05:26] <wheatthin> hmm
[05:26] <wheatthin> v1c3, route
[05:28] <v1c3> Metric = 2
[05:29] <wheatthin> v1c3, can you pipe it to pastebinit?
[05:29] <v1c3> on current system metric = 0
[05:29] <wheatthin> route | pastebinit
[05:30] <v1c3> www.pastie.org/8098841
[05:30] <v1c3> http://pastie.org/8098841
[05:31] <wheatthin> seems good.. does ifconfig relate to 192.168.178.0
[05:33] <v1c3> relate?
[05:33] <wheatthin> show me ifconfig in pastebinit
[05:33] <v1c3> ifconfig | grep 192.168.178.0 showes no output
[05:33] <dual_> v1c3: can you ping your workstation from the ubuntu-server?
[05:34] <wheatthin> no show me   ifconfig | pastebinit
[05:34] <v1c3> dual_: no I cant
[05:34] <dual_> Can you ping google or 8.8.8.8?
[05:34] <v1c3> mom
[05:35] <v1c3> yes
[05:35] <v1c3> wheatthin: mom
[05:35] <wheatthin> mom?
[05:35] <v1c3> paste.ubuntu.com/5815882
[05:36] <v1c3> one MOMent please ;)
[05:36] <wheatthin> lol
[05:36] <v1c3> dual_: yes can ping 8.8.8.8 and browsing the web..
[05:36] <wheatthin> aight well it looks good. This is your server?
[05:36] <wheatthin> may I ask why wifi connection for your server?
[05:37] <v1c3> server lives behind a TV..
[05:37] <wheatthin> tv your router?
[05:38] <v1c3> a flatscreen for television
[05:38] <wheatthin> right, but your flatscreen a router or something? I don't get what you mean behind tv
[05:39] <dual_> can you ping your default gateway (router)?
[05:39] <wheatthin> I'm thinking his router has wan partition for wifi devices
[05:39] <v1c3> its wifi because i dont want cables because its behind a flatscreen which is a TV in my country :P
[05:39] <dual_> yeah thats my guess as well
[05:39] <tannji> can someone give me an example of how you would use the modifier "..." in a bash command?
[05:40] <v1c3> Yes i can ping the router
[05:40] <wheatthin> v1c3, then there's a config in your router about wan partition
[05:41] <adie> I need help :<
[05:42] <v1c3> wheatthin:
[05:42] <wheatthin> adie, just ask, someone will help automatically
[05:42] <adie> YES
[05:42] <v1c3> I am searching for it.
[05:42] <adie> I WORKIN on it :<
[05:42] <adie> I accidently executed a python script from nautilus, which contains an infinite loop
[05:42] <adie> I don't know how to kill it
[05:42] <wheatthin> what's the script called?
[05:42] <v1c3> adie: Did you try to turn your pc off and on again?
[05:43] <Guest23897> what is diffence between & and ;
[05:43] <adie> /usr/share/doc/python-notify/examples/test-xy-stress.py
[05:43] <wheatthin> & backgrounds
[05:43] <v1c3> adie: Just kiddin.. pkill PROCESSNAME
[05:43] <adie> idk what the process name is apparently, because pkill python doesn't do it
[05:43] <adie> ^_^
[05:44] <wheatthin> adie, ps aux | grep test-xy-stress
[05:44] <adie> adie      2370  0.0  0.0   4428   832 pts/0    S+   00:44   0:00 grep --color=auto test-xy
[05:44] <wheatthin> hmm
[05:45] <wheatthin> ps aux | grep .py
[05:45] <x6d61726b> alternatively, top it to see it chew up system resources and kill it from there.
[05:46] <adie> wheatthin, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=uDnyB8UG
[05:46] <wheatthin> I think it's called emense
[05:47] <adie> nope, that's not it
[05:47] <wheatthin> well then do what x6d61726b said
[05:47] <adie> Well, it's not killing resources
[05:47] <wheatthin> is it ran by root?
[05:47] <adie> no
[05:48] <adie> It's an example script from /usr/share/doc/python-notify/examples that has a loop that just keeps popping up random number notifications
[05:48] <adie> but it's a sleep() loop, not something that just keeps grinding away
[05:48] <wheatthin> adie, just reboot, simplest way
[05:49] <wheatthin> v1c3, find it yet?
[05:49] <adie> hm
[05:49] <adie> it stopped :|
[05:49] <adie> maybe I killed it a while back, but notifications were queue'd up in notify-OSD
[05:50] <v1c3> wheatthin: dual_: I restarted the router and now its working
[05:51] <wheatthin> k
[05:51] <dual_> v1c3: cool
[05:52] <v1c3> odd and disturbing ;)
[05:55] <michael87> Hi I'm having a problem. for whatever reason I tried out windows 8.1. I still hate it and I am never going back to that crap again. But now I am on ubuntu 13.04 on my flash drive an am attempting to dualboot windows 7. problem is I can't find the winusb program after downloading and installing. Please help me. I already wiped my hardrive and set it up.
[05:56] <adie> is there a reason notify-OSD notifications are this far down? http://cloud.addictivetips.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/NotifyOSD.png
[05:56] <adie> I would think it'd be logical for them to nearly touch the top :/
[05:57] <adie> michael87, you are trying to make a windows 7 USB install disk from ubuntu?
[05:57] <michael87> adie, yes
[05:57] <adie> I don't know if this helps you cuz I dunno how hard this is to do from ubuntu but uh....
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> michael87, What OS to load the usb with?
[05:58] <adie> if you wipe out the USB drive, and repartition it with one single active primary NTFS partition, if you copy/paste the contents of a windows 7 ISO to it, it will boot
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> adie, YOu have to mount that iso it will not just copy and paste.
[05:58] <adie> right
[05:59] <adie> copy the contents of the iso
[05:59] <michael87> wilee-nilee, windows 7. I am dualbooting win7 with ubuntu for now on. 8.1 is just not worth it and save for gaming I'm done with microsoft
[05:59] <wilee-nilee> the ntfs needs a boot flag as well
[05:59] <adie> yeah, that too!
[05:59] <adie> I have certainly done this manually from ubuntu myself, you just gotta make sure it's partitioned/configured right
[05:59] <adie> but that should be about it
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> michael87, https://wudt.codeplex.com/
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> here is the win7 loader
[06:01] <adie> wilee-nilee, he's trying to make a bootable win7 installer from within ubuntu
[06:01] <adie> :x
[06:01] <michael87> wilee-nilee, thanks but this is a windows application. I'm going to need to run something like this in wine if I can't find one native in ubuntu
[06:02] <adie> michael87, http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[06:02] <adie> that will lead you through the steps to make a bootable NTFS partition on a flash drive
[06:02] <wilee-nilee> michael87, This works great besides what adie suggested. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[06:02] <adie> past that, it's just copying the iso contents to it
[06:03] <teamy> anyone good at NAT64/Tyaga
[06:04] <michael87> wilee-nilee, and this will for for windows 7?
[06:05] <wilee-nilee> michael87, Yep and W8 and 8.1
[06:05] <wilee-nilee> michael87, Format the usb with gparted if you have any problems it is picky with block size
[06:06] <michael87> wilee-nilee, cool. But 8.1 is not at all what I hoped it would be. Its speed is not that much greater then 7 and gaming doesn't do jack despite what they say about 8 being lighter on your graphics. I call bull. I am far more impressed with ubuntu. And I don't think I can live without that hot corners feature now lol
[06:08] <wilee-nilee> michael87, Yeah use what works, I have windows for word to write papers and use ubuntu otherwise
[06:10] <michael87> wilee-nilee, I use what is fast and inovative and gives me the freedom I want or need and linux has given me that. In the past in only held promise to me. The speed was wanting. 7 was the best for everything. But after 13.04 its hard to go back to windows save for 7. After a while though you want to look at something different. So I am going to setup booth on my laptop
[06:13] <macguges> I'm attempting to coach my dad to turn to ubuntu forums or IRC for support.  Would anyone have advice on how to teach novices to form more effective questions?
[06:14] <RalieghFhang> Okay, I'm trying to get my www-data user to create directories in the /home folders (and everything therein recursively). Is it a bad idea to set my entire /home directory to 755? All that will be held in there are a few bash scripts, shoutcast icecast and liquidsoap files.
[06:15] <Ari-Yang> macguges, this is kind of a support channel... (for ubuntu specifically)
[06:15] <RalieghFhang> And on that note, will any new files placed in or created in the /home directory be 755?
[06:16] <macguges> My dad just described a situation that he can now play sound with applications, though (he claims) sound is not present when he looks for it under System Settings.
[06:17] <michael87> stupid .sh file won't open up in terminal XD
[06:17] <RalieghFhang> Anyone?
[06:18] <michael87> never mind I think I got it
[06:18] <canonic> #ubuntu-ru
[06:21] <macguges> Ari-Yang: I may end up answering my own question.  A poor question would meander through random weird observations, but a more effective question would describe a specific expectation that was unmet.
[06:22] <Flannel> !goodquestion | macguges
[06:24] <michael87> well I'll be damned. I manually found my winusb after following your guys instructions XD
[06:24] <macguges> ubottu: thanks, this could be useful.
[06:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> ubottu: you just passed the turing test ;)
[06:25] <macguges> lol
[06:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> alright, joke aside anyone here a ruby dev? I'm looking into redcar as an IDE for it, but cannot find install instructions for ubuntu :P
[06:28] <michael87> anyway I am freaken proud of open source and so glad we have options. 8 is flat and stupid. I thought those tiles would be kinda nice but getting rid of aeroglass and ANY texture at all was a last straw for me. ubuntu forever
[06:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh, xubuntu forever \m/
[06:29] <michael87> ntzrmtthihu777, see that is nice too. Everyone has choices and for noobs like me theres unity and newwer stuff. But people who are technicol or have older hardware xubuntu, lubuntu, or mint is around. I really do like mint and kde though
[06:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> disregard previous question, I found my answer :P
[06:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> michael87: true dat. even if I had a super souped up machine I'd still use xubuntu, as I don't need pretty pretty, just performance :P
[06:32] <michael87> ntzrmtthihu777, I'm an eyecandy guy can't lie. But 8 is only a flatter stupidder version of 7 thats all. The speed isn't even that much faster. I'm only relying on microsoft for gaming for now on damn
[06:32] <RalieghFhang> http://pastebin.com/pRRK3CG6    <--- Could use a hand with this.
[06:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> michael87: lol, what games do you play? I personally play quite alot of games on ubuntu, both native and wine based :P hell I even have a few scripts in the PlayOnLinux repos
[06:34] <Flannel> RalieghFhang: Why are you running a PHP script in your home directory?
[06:34] <tannji> ok, for anyone who is good in bash,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5815972/    this is an example of how to make a set of directories with operators so you dont have to manually create a directory for every month of every year.  Why the second part for months 10-12?  that string cant deal with both single and double digits?
[06:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> RalieghFhang: yeah I'm gonna be of no use on that matter, I know no php.
[06:35] <RalieghFhang> I'm not. The PHP script runs a bash script in my home directory. Since www-data cannot sudo it tries to run that mkdir command as the PHP user (www-data).
[06:35] <Flannel> RalieghFhang: Alright, that's semantics.  Why are you trying to use apache to run a script in your home directory?
[06:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> tannji: {01..12} is what you want.
[06:36] <RalieghFhang> Not semantics. I could place that script anywhere and it would still run. It's the script itself that gives me permission errors.
[06:36] <tannji> ntzrmtthihu777,  so that WOULD work?
[06:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> tannji: if I guess your aim right then yes
[06:37] <RalieghFhang> And because I need a web-end to create directories, move files, modify files and run bash scripts in general.
[06:37] <RalieghFhang> It does the latter fine.
[06:37] <Flannel> RalieghFhang: It would only give permission errors if www-data doesn't have permission to create a directory.  Why are you trying to use www-data to do things in places other than where www-data should be doing things?
[06:38] <RalieghFhang> Because PHP user is www-data.
[06:38] <RalieghFhang> PHP is my front-end to do back-end things.
[06:38] <RalieghFhang> If I can change PHP user and still have things work.
[06:38] <tannji> ntzrmtthihu777,   lol, my aim is to understand this tutorial on bash...   but I couldnt understand why the example was written that way
[06:38] <RalieghFhang> Then I'll gladly do that.
[06:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> tannji: hmm, is this gregswiki?
[06:39] <tannji> ntzrmtthihu777,  linuxcommand.org
[06:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> tannji: can you point the exact tutorial out? link?
[06:42] <tannji> ntzrmtthihu777,  here ya go;  http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_lts0080.php
[06:43] <tannji> ntzrmtthihu777,  bout halfway down
[06:43] <CarlFK> http://www.linuxconsulting.ro/picturegrabber/   "Picture Grabber is a video 4 linux capture application able to read raw data from a V4L compatible device and output to a jpeg file."     not in the standard repos and I can't find it in a lp ppa.  anyone know of something similar?
[06:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> wow. very strange, but yeah, doing mkdir {07-09}-{01..12} will do exactly what you need in a shorter time :P
[06:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> hell mkdir 200{7..9
[06:45] <tannji> ntzrmtthihu777,  lol, ok... maybe the guy was just making the point that under different circumstances with more complex sorts, you could still express the arguement
[06:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> tannji: hell mkdir 200{7..9}-{01..12} would be even shorter.
[06:45] <tannji> ntzrmtthihu777,  right
[06:46] <Kartagis> any idea when cifs-utils will be debugged?
[06:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> tannji: just gotta find the lcd, least common denominators, of the expressions :P
[06:47] <michael87> thank all you guys for your help you have been awsome
[06:47] <tannji> ntzrmtthihu777, simplify, always simplify.....  got tired of hearing that as a kid
[06:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> tannji: heh, but many things you learn as a kid are of great use as an adult, re: napping XD
[06:49] <tannji> ntzrmtthihu777,  or in my case, the varied uses for electrically charged capacitors.....  ( didnt go to school as a kid)
[06:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> izzat so. I got my ged, thats about all :P some college cred,
[06:50] <tannji> ya...  I went back in HS, went on the nuke power mechanics in the navy....  now teaching myself linux  = )
[06:50] <Tarius> Hello people , I have arabic numbers in skype and Psi+ where is the problem ?
[06:51] <deanrock0> hi, i have a server at home for file sharing, VMs, etc. ... can i also use it as firewall between WAN and LAN, or is it better to have a seperate box for that?
[06:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> Tarius: um, I fail to see the issue as 1,2,3,4... etc are arabic numbers. is there something I'm missing here?
[06:52] <histo> deanrock0: depends on how much of your resources you are using.
[06:52] <foo357_> Hello. I've got a few machines running ubuntu, right now the task of package updating is performed manually but I would like to set up an automatic mechanism that handles this. I did a quick check and saw that there's some support. One thing I'm particularly keen on is logging and getting reports.
[06:52] <deanrock0> histo: resourses aren't the problem, i am more interested in security aspects
[06:53] <foo357_> so my question is: is anyone familiar / expoerienced with setting up auto updates of packages?
[06:53] <CarlFK> deanrock0: giving the public access to that box's nic is a bigger risk than not doing that.
[06:53] <wilee-nilee> foo357_, we all are state your problem.
[06:54] <Tarius> ntzrmtthihu777: But i see numbers in other format that I not understood not in this format ...
[06:54] <CarlFK> deanrock0: I used to, but stopped mainly because now I don't have to worry about it.  not really sure what my gateway box is running, and don't really care
[06:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> Tarius: screenshot?
[06:54] <wilee-nilee> foo357_, Heh, I missed the first post, sorry.
[06:55] <foo357_> wilee-nilee: ideally I'd be looking for a guide on how to setup auto updates and also getting good logging and reports of what's happening on the machine.
[06:56] <deanrock0> CarlFK: i am not really convinced which way to go :)
[06:56] <Tarius> ntzrmtthihu777 I see numbers like is shown in this table : https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSD-0sL59RGl45xuEx6-sI-jNc4rr4ISE3lmC8C3ZWJG7L2b6yVkw
[06:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> foo357_: I believe the unattended-updates package is what you want
[06:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> Tarius: mhmm. ok, what locales does your machine have installed?
[06:57] <Tarius> ntzrmtthihu777 : SK
[06:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> and that is?
[06:58] <Tarius> ntzrmtthihu777 : This issue i detected on Ubuntu and on Mint (ubuntu clon) in some apps : Skype , Psi+
[06:58] <CarlFK> deanrock0: assume the box will get hacked and you will lose everything.  if that is a problem, don't do it.  If it is just for goofing around and you wouldn't care, do it.
[06:59] <Tarius> ntzrmtthihu777 : Ubuntu 12.10 , Language : Slovak
[06:59] <deanrock0> CarlFK: ok, thanks
[07:00] <bipul_> How to install EvalVid in ubuntu.
[07:01] <histo> !info evalvid
[07:03] <aeon-ltd> bipul: well now you need to find .deb(s)/a PPA/or compile the source
[07:03] <bipul> Is it not there in ubuntu repository.
[07:03] <aeon-ltd> not according to the bot
[07:03] <aeon-ltd> unless it has another name
[07:04] <bipul> aeon-ltd, I have to use it with ns-2 on ubuntu.
[07:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> Tarius: what locale are you using?
[07:04] <theadmin> bipul: http://www.tkn.tu-berlin.de/menue/research/evalvid/ - there are binary tarballs here.
[07:06] <Tarius> ntzrmtthihu777 : As I write : My System language is : Slovak , and App language is : Slovak , in app I later switch to English but no luck with this problem
[07:06] <theadmin> Tarius: Check under System Settings -> Language Support -> Regional Formats
[07:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> Tarius: what theadmin said
[07:08] <Crawford> Is there something like logger that I can use to pipe output from my script into its own /var/log file?
[07:08] <FragUPlenty> ok so im on my netbook running lubuntu 13.04 and I swear to you there are like occasionally icons appearing and moving themselves the dissapearing really quick and I am not doing anything to cause it
[07:08] <Guest38710> hw do i chng nick re
[07:09] <Crawford> Guest38710: type /nick <yournewnick>
[07:09] <FragUPlenty> I am not joking I know I am not crazy
[07:09] <theadmin> FragUPlenty: Probably something like a window manager restart/crash
[07:09] <Crawford> without the <>
[07:09] <theadmin> FragUPlenty: If it works fine afterwards, no big deal
[07:09] <Guest38710> nt chnging
[07:09] <FragUPlenty> it is working fine and it is happening as we are talking
[07:09] <Guest38710> :-P
[07:10] <FragUPlenty> like I am sitting here and there is an icon of a document that just went from the bottom of the screen to the top and then boom gone but everything is working fine
[07:10] <Guest38710> my laptop has 1gb nvidia graphics card but this os not showing it in additional drivers ...why?
[07:10] <theadmin> FragUPlenty: Huh. That's odd, that I've never seen before
[07:11] <theadmin> FragUPlenty: Maybe you've got some sort of a prank/joke app running
[07:11] <FragUPlenty> this is a brand new install
[07:11] <theadmin> Guest38710: Maybe you don't have a card supported by nvidia's proprietary drivers.
[07:11] <theadmin> FragUPlenty: ...weird.
[07:12] <Guest38710> lol  i cant control screen brightness too...
[07:12] <FragUPlenty> whats a good screen recorder for linux
[07:12] <Guest38710> with fn+up/dwn arrow
[07:13] <theadmin> FragUPlenty: Try kazam
[07:13] <Guest38710> hw do i control screen brightness ....
[07:14] <theadmin> Guest38710: You can go to System Settings -> Brightness and Lock
[07:14] <theadmin> Guest38710: Function keys fail sometimes sadly
[07:14] <FragUPlenty> ima go ahead and upload a video to youtube of it happening
[07:14] <Guest38710> tried....
[07:14] <Guest38710> it didnt work
[07:14] <devslash> i formatted a usb drive usingf gparted as a fat partition. the write time to the flash drive is unbearably slow all of a sudden
[07:14] <theadmin> devslash: fat is old, use fat32 :/
[07:15] <theadmin> devslash: (vfat)
[07:15] <devslash> it is
[07:15] <devslash> its formatted as fat32
[07:15] <theadmin> devslash: Maybe you should set another cluster size then, not sure what's the most optimal choice but still
[07:16] <devslash> how ?
[07:16] <Guest38710> hw do i controll screen brightness .....
[07:16] <devslash> you mean when you format it ?
[07:16] <theadmin> devslash: No idea how to do so from gparted, but mkfs.vfat /dev/sdz1 -s size_here
[07:16] <devslash> ahh ok
[07:17] <devslash> thanks
[07:17] <Guest38710> damn tried controlling from system settings .... it didnt work....
[07:17] <theadmin> Guest38710: Repeating every minute isn't going to get you any help, be patient, not everyone knows everything. We're volunteers here
[07:17] <Guest38710> ok .... got it..... sorry
[07:18] <FragUPlenty> ok I got screen recorder on now its not happening
[07:18] <theadmin> FragUPlenty: hehe. Murphy's law eh
[07:18] <FragUPlenty> ima get it on video
[07:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> FragUPlenty: you should check out recordscreen.py, its damn good :P
[07:19] <circle> GorDon GeCkO
[07:19] <FragUPlenty> ok so it seems to happen after my netbook comes out of hibernate
[07:20] <FragUPlenty> at first I thought lack of sleep was causing me to like see things and so I brushed it off
[07:20] <bleb> How can make a window manager show up in my login screen so I can use it? I am trying to use rio, and I don't know how to start it before starting another desktop environment.
[07:20] <FragUPlenty> now im like it totally is happening
[07:21] <theadmin> bleb: Eh... Standalone login manager, you mean? You'd need to add it to the X sessions list, wait, let me remember where that is...
[07:24] <theadmin> bleb: Create a file /usr/share/xsessions/rio.desktop with the following content: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816049/
[07:24] <theadmin> bleb: (edit the binary path appropriately, I've no idea where it resides)
[07:24] <bleb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816049/
[07:24] <theadmin> bleb: (not the actual link, mind you, the stuff shown on it)
[07:25] <bleb> theadmin: thanks
[07:25] <theadmin> bleb: If you want, you can also add a line stating Icon=/path/to/some/pic.png to have an icon displayed as well.
[07:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> bleb: if you place said icon in /usr/share/pixmaps/ you don't need to specify the path, or the extension, I believe
[07:27] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: You mean /usr/share/icons, pixmaps is for... well... pixmaps
[07:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: that too. I believe both would work, depending on the icon type. heck ~/.icons/<iconschemename> would do the trick too, right?
[07:28] <jack_> yeppiiii..... found d solution on controlling screen brightness...
[07:28] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Not for lighdm...
[07:29] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: It starts before the user's session
[07:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: izzat so...
[07:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: oh yeah, this is for a before login thing, eh?
[07:32] <jack_> cant access bluetooth
[07:33] <kelly> hello guys
[07:34] <jack_> theadmin: bluetooth is not wrking...
[07:34] <tones> jack, wjat solution did you find for controlling screen brigtness?
[07:35] <kelly> i installed Lubuntu 13.04 64 bit , there is a black screen says kernel panic , any idea
[07:38] <Tarius> ntzrmtthihu777 : Numbers are seem ok here
[07:42] <dazzle> I have 3 x 2TB. What should I do - raid1 + spare or raid5?
[07:44] <ole`01> dazzle, send one to me and configure raid1 without spare with the two others ;)
[07:46] <dazzle> ole`01: how about you send me one 2 TB so I can do raid10
[07:46] <lllsondowlll> Hello is anyone available? I have just a few questions I want to ask.
[07:46] <ole`01> I don't have any 2TB hdds. ;)
[07:47] <ole`01> lllsondowlll, don't ask for availability, ask your questions.
 haha well excuse me
[07:49] <histo> !md5sum | kelly double check your iso and installation media's md5 matches
[07:49] <kelly> i checked it , it's identical
[07:49] <histo> kelly: identical to the md5 sums on lubuntu's download page?
[07:49] <markcl> hi! i want to install ALL PHP modules in ubuntu
[07:49] <markcl> what to type?
[07:49] <kelly> i tried ubuntu 13.04 , lubuntu 13.04 same problem
[07:50] <markcl> i already got the lamp server set up
[07:50] <kelly> yes histo
[07:50] <markcl> i just want a code to download ALL PHP modules
[07:50] <histo> kelly: what type of hardware?
[07:50] <ubuntu890> there is a room concerned to networking on freenode?
[07:50] <histo> !alis | ubuntu890
[07:50] <On3453v3n> hello, how i can configurate the tty?
[07:51] <markcl> what do you mean by configure tty?
[07:51] <kelly> intel core i3-2100 , 10GB ram ddr3 , intel vga 3000 hd , ssd 256gb
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu890, ##networking
[07:52] <histo> kelly: shouldn't be and issue how did you verify your installation media?
[07:52] <lllsondowlll> Okay down to the question. I have a 120gb SSD and a 1TB HDD. I am doing this from a fresh install so we don't have to worry about any reallocating of of storage or moving of data. My goal is this. I understand how to partition out the file systems but I would like another approach. My goal is to have SSD: "/ OS and dependencies + /boot" & HDD: /home & one a seperate SINGLE partition /user /var /opt /swap
[07:52] <kelly> histo: do you mean what is the way i checked the md5 ?
[07:52] <lllsondowlll> Correction on my original statement. I am doing this from live USB flash drive not inside a fresh install
[07:53] <On3453v3n> markcl, when you use CTRL+ALT+F(n) you can axes to one of the 6 tty
[07:53] <lllsondowlll> Does anyone know how to achieve this
[07:53] <histo> kelly: yes how did you get the md5 hash of the DVD or USB you are using to install with?
[07:53] <kelly> i previously used pclinuxos , when the download it finish i open the terminal and type md5 name.of.the.iso.file
[07:54] <kelly> then i compare it with the number on lubuntu 13.04 md5
[07:54] <MonkWitDaFunk> I would like to visit distrowatch.com for the md5sum calculation
[07:54] <Ben64> lllsondowlll: you can't have /usr /var /opt and swap as one partition if / is a different one
[07:54] <ole`01> lllsondowlll, what is /user?
[07:54] <histo> lllsondowlll: don't believe you'd be able to do that /user /var /opt and /swap all on one partition on the HDD with the OS on antoher partition
[07:54] <kelly> here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/13.04/release/MD5SUMS
[07:54] <MonkWitDaFunk> I had a problem with md5sum myself
[07:54] <histo> kelly: no you have to get the hash of the installation media.
[07:54] <ole`01> Ah, /usr :D
[07:54] <lllsondowlll> Well here is the thing
[07:55] <histo> kelly: because it's possible that your iso is fine but your burned dvd or USB you created is bad
[07:55] <kelly> aha
[07:55] <histo> !md5sum | kelly look a tthe dd part for how to do it
[07:55] <lllsondowlll> I am very aware that this can be achieved using binds and symlinks via within the OS I am attempting to avoind that
[07:55] <kelly> how can i know then ? i used dd command to make a bootalbe usb
[07:55] <histo> lllsondowlll: what's the problem with just having them all on their own partitioins?
[07:55] <lllsondowlll> Since after I install this on my USB I will be backing up the fresh install via gparted images
[07:56] <Ben64> lllsondowlll: either make multiple partitions or don't separate it out so much
[07:58] <kelly> histo: i use dd command , i just type dd if=name of the iso file of=/dev/sdc
[07:58] <kelly> is that wrong way ?!
[07:58] <Ben64> kelly: that should work on newer ubuntu isos
[07:59] <histo> kelly: no that is fine. You need to get the size of the iso file now and md5sum the installation media using dd to pipe that amount of blocks to md5sum now.
[07:59] <lllsondowlll> histo: Well the initial issue is that, I from time to time reload the OS or change something. Firstly I do not really think it's a good idea to partition out so much on a 4 year old 1TB hdd, /home and /swap are the only things I wish to have seperate. I format a lot and the read/writes would be unaccaptable in relation to HDD degradation when re-formatting or writing back images as well as formatting and /var /usr  filesystem's
[07:59] <kelly> like this ? dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=1 count=732766208 | md5sum
[07:59] <ole`01> lllsondowlll, maybe lvm will do the trick
[08:00] <histo> kelly: yes
[08:00] <lllsondowlll> ole'01: LVM is a possibility but that still requires more than one partition for the filesystems I am assaigning to it does it not?
[08:00] <histo> kelly: assuming you are using /dev/cdrom in yourcase it would be /dev/sdc
[08:01] <histo> lllsondowlll: what is the problem with multiple partitions?
[08:01] <kelly> ok i'll do it again and see
[08:01] <ole`01> histo, he already wrote the answer above
[08:01] <Ben64> lllsondowlll: why do you even need separate /usr /opt /var ?
[08:02] <histo> markcl: there is no magic command or meta package that I'm aware of.
[08:03] <histo> lllsondowlll: if you are just trying to reduce writes to the SSD you are going way overboard.  You can mount certain things from var to tmpfs and use any swapfile on the HDD you want as your swap.
[08:04] <lllsondowlll> histo: 1 being that my 1TB is old and the combination of what I do on linux could degrade it very fast. Such as formatting often as well as the strain of reading and writing to multiple partitions and the concern of partitions sizing however as ole'01 pointed out the resizing can be done via LVM but I wish to avoid those issues. Using those directories that I may need to format later on a SSD can cause uneeded stress in the bul
[08:05] <lllsondowlll> histo: perhaps but the issue with var being on ram causes crash logs to be wiped in the case of a crash. This is not ideal
[08:05] <histo> lllsondowlll: I would put / on the SSD /home and /swap on the HDD.  reduce swappiness to avoid using swap and mount certain /var stuff in tmpfs that you don't need after reboot
[08:05] <Ben64> a hard drive does not care how many partitions it has, it doesn't increase stress.
[08:05] <histo> lllsondowlll: not all of /var
[08:05] <histo> lllsondowlll: also as Ben64 has said the added partitions don't matter.
[08:06] <Ben64> and i would do what histo suggests, putting /usr on the hard drive negates a lot of what a ssd is good for
[08:08] <histo> kelly: also a memtest wouldn't hurt
[08:08] <lllsondowlll> Ben64 & histo: I was unaware that multiple partitions on the HDD did not cause wear I must be uninformed I believe I read and article that said multiple partitions increase the strain on HDD's as well as slowing performance
[08:08] <histo> lllsondowlll: not if they are properly aligned
[08:09] <lllsondowlll> Ben64 & histo: are you indeed sure of this?
[08:09] <histo> lllsondowlll: yes
[08:09] <lllsondowlll> histo: I use gparted which alligns them
[08:09] <lllsondowlll> I see
[08:09] <histo> lllsondowlll: data is data partitions aren't some mythical magic fairy dust on the disk.
[08:11] <lllsondowlll> histo: I am very aware of this. I do understand these concepts I am a technictian it is just I was misinformed on the wear of the HDD. It made sense to me since the HDD head would have to move back and forth between writes especially if writing between the two partitons at the same time.
[08:11] <kelly> histo: what i i want to burn it to dvd or cd how can i check if the cd or dvd is good ?
[08:11] <histo> lllsondowlll: That's why I would not create a billion partitions there that are needed at the same time.
[08:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: assuming you have the md5sum of the iso you can check them against the cd. brasero does this automatically
[08:12] <histo> lllsondowlll: I would just put /home and /swap there as I've suggested and mount non essential stuff like browser cache and various things from var into tmpfs
[08:13] <lllsondowlll> histo: Isn't var directory the location of crash logs?
[08:13] <histo> kelly: then you would dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=1 count="size of iso file" | md5sum
[08:13] <histo> lllsondowlll: /var/log is
[08:13] <Guest66912> hello evveryone how do i get a desktop clock my ubuntu studio?
[08:13] <kelly> what about k3b , i installed it
[08:13] <histo> lllsondowlll: there is more than just log/ in var take a look
[08:14] <histo> kelly: just ls -l some_iso_file   get the count then dd if=/dev/sdc bs=1 count=that count | md5sum   Since you already made a usb and see if that md5sum matches the one on the download page.
[08:15] <lllsondowlll> histo: I am aware there is more, it stores logs as well as other data the fill up very quickly. So if I understand you correctly I should place  the var/log through symlink or another linking method on the hdd?
[08:15] <histo> kelly: I understand that is /dev/sdc  your thumb drive or something?
[08:15] <kelly> yes /dev/sdc the usb
[08:15] <histo> sry was reading scroll back and replied lol
[08:15] <histo> kelly: then my instructions above should work for properly getting the md5sum of the usb
[08:16] <foo357_> Hello. I'm looking for some good resources on "unattended-upgrades", documentation, guides et.c.
[08:16] <histo> lllsondowlll: do whatever you want. I'm merely offering you a suggestion. It's your system.
[08:17] <histo> foo357_: https://launchpad.net/unattended-upgrades
[08:18] <kelly> thank you histo , i appreciate you help
[08:18] <TrD> hi all
[08:19] <TrD> how to find a video stream URL in Ubuntu please ?
[08:20] <lllsondowlll> histo: I appreciate the information and It is definately something I am looking at now if it does tackle some concerns with this configurations. One moment while I look at my situation and I will get back to you with questions as they come to mind concerning this configuration.
[08:21] <rijack> I would like something similar to nepomuk for ubuntu in that i can add custom tags from the file manager to files for searching. is there any thing like that for ubuntu?
[08:21] <tones> dd if=name of the iso file of=/dev/sdc   this is the only command needed to create a live usb thumb drive?
[08:22] <histo> lllsondowlll: also keep in mind that reducing writes to your SSD will help it's longevity although current disks will last a long long time compared to the first models that were available.
[08:22] <histo> tones: yes assuming /dev/sdc is your USB device
[08:22] <histo> TrD: video stream of what?
[08:23] <TrD> a TV p2p histo
[08:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> rijack: erm, you mean for something not ubuntu?
[08:23] <TrD> i want to play the stream in VLC
[08:23] <histo> TrD: what?
[08:24] <luigi69> Hi
[08:24] <histo> TrD: no idea what you mean by tv p2p
[08:24] <histo> !details | TrD
[08:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: its a way of watching televised events online, usually sporting events.
[08:25] <luigi69> I have 12.04, and just compiled gvim from source - and I would like to make it work with unity icons bar. I've created gvim.desktop with contents same as in original gvim package, but it doesn't behave same. It lacks window position/sizing memory and it displays app menu (it shouldn't due to vimrc config file settings). Any ideas?
[08:25] <TrD> i have a problem runnig Tv  streaming under SopCast player, i want to add an URL inside the player, but couldent find it in the HTML of the web page
[08:26] <Daughain> Morning, all.
[08:26] <TrD> that is histo
[08:27] <histo> luigi69: is there something wrong with gvim in the repos?
[08:27] <lllsondowlll> histo: I am aware of this, linux has a unique way of storing data that is mor efficent than other OS's in that it does not contain a registry or a directory that require checks if a program has registry or Property List so transference of these directories are seemless however this does cause issues with SSD in the essense of not having one unified file system like "program Files" and "Windows" that can be seperated out causing
[08:27] <rijack> no i mean im coming from kde and there was a feature where you could highlight a file( music, archive, directory, whatever) and then write custom tags which would allow yo to find it from the search bar
[08:27] <lllsondowlll> histo: to draw more writes
[08:28] <luigi69> histo, old - its 7.3.4xx, from 13.10 it's 7.3.9xx, building from source makes it 7.3.1280 - that's a lot of patches
[08:28] <Daughain> I seem to be having an issue with editing fstab. Specifically, I am trying to mount my box.com shares, And I keep getting the error:[mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[08:28] <Daughain> mount: can't find /home/daughain/Box.com in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[08:28] <Daughain>  
[08:28] <histo> lllsondowlll: I'm saying I wouldn't really worry about "more writes" with modern SSDs as much as you are. Yeah try to reduce them but you are going way overboard. If you look at specs on current SSDs especially one of your size I bet you will find that if you wrote 10GB a day to every day it would last like 10 years
[08:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: try using the ip instead, and make sure to add the proper info to /etc/hosts if you must use the box.com host :P
[08:29] <histo> lllsondowlll: keep in mind that all disks fail eventually and you should create backups if your data is essential
[08:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: here are some examples of my working setup: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816152/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816153/
[08:30] <alainus> hi , my server requires a .pem file to authenticate for ssh connections, always. I need to disable that for just one user, is it possible ?
[08:30] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, I'm using https://www.box.com/dav
[08:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: ping the url, get the ip, and use that, see if it works :P
[08:31] <skeuomorf> guys I am running Kali in a virtualbox with ubuntu as the host system, the resolutions offered in the display settings in kali do not fit with my system. How do I fix that?
[08:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> skeuomorf: install virtualbox guest additions?
[08:32] <skeuomorf> ntzrmtthihu777, did that, but no avail
[08:32] <lllsondowlll> histo: It's seems that way I am aware but my reasoning behind this is about how I use my system and the ammount of times I may need to re-format. Since the OS and it's boot dependencies are much less on linux based systems it is ideal if I format a small portion to not cause my SSD stress in comparison to a fully unified system on the SSD which requires a format to equal the the size of the partition
[08:32] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Getting a return of unknown host
[08:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: hmm.
[08:33] <lllsondowlll> histo: I'll explain my situation a tiny bit better and maybe you can share your final thoughts before I proceed.
[08:33] <Daughain> ping http://www.box.com
[08:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> i've never used this service, so I cannot say for sure. I personally just have a small ubuntu server functioning as a samba server (read: glorified external hdd)
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> skeuomorf: kali is not supported here
[08:33] <skeuomorf> ActionParsnip, ok
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> skeuomorf: ask in #kali-linux
[08:34] <skeuomorf> ActionParsnip, there are no channels with that name
[08:34] <skeuomorf> ActionParsnip, sorry about that, mistake
[08:34] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, I'm too poor for that. :P I just happen to have 50gb thorugh them, so trying to make some use of it.
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> skeuomorf: its cool
[08:35] <histo> skeuomorf: yes there is #kali-linux
[08:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: don't talk to me about poor, lol. I work for $25/wk at a homeless shelter in corpus XD
[08:35] <skeuomorf> histo, yes yes
[08:36] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, thats more than I make.
[08:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: say true?
[08:36] <Daughain> 20yr mechanic, tore both rotator cuffs, now cant find a job.
[08:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> ouch. literally, in this case.
[08:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> don't take much to set up a server, any old junker pc you have sitting around/find on craigslist can do the trick.
[08:37] <Daughain> Anyway, Shit, happens, right now I'm trying to get this stupid cloud server to be useful to a linux user.
[08:38] <lllsondowlll> histo: Once I format my 2 HDD's with my configuration my goal is of that to the Image files of the 2 drives from within my live USB. From there in the case of a mistake (which is bound to happen as I do tweak ubuntu often) I can restore that image to either drive without re-running the installation. The reason behind the /home partition and the /usr /opt /var partition is that /usr /var can fill a drive up if programs are downl
[08:38] <Daughain> Box doesnt offer a linux a[pp of any kind, just windows and mac
[08:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: try wine?
[08:39] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Thats absolute last ditch. Using davfs, there is supposed to be a way to do it, but this fstab issue kills me.
[08:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: you need to add box.com to your /etc/hosts file, and you'll need an ip for that, methinks.
[08:40] <Daughain> let me look....
[08:40] <lllsondowlll> histo: thus /home remains untouched. Further I don't wish to sacrafice performance with multiple partitions. Which is why my solution of having 2 seperate unified filesystems came into play. Does this explain a little better of my situation? What are your thoughts before I take my leave as well?
[08:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> unless you tell it what box.com means, its just a string fstab knows not what to do with. are you using a guide of some sort? if so, do you mind linking me so I can "read along"?
[08:42] <ycl> i'm a greener for gtk gio glib gobject . i need some suggest to study them . thanks
[08:42] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, I've been through about 5 guides so far, the edits to fstab dont seem to change nthe issue I am having.
[08:42] <histo> lllsondowlll: My setup is similar to yours and I went with / on SSD with /home and swap on HDD in their own partitions. I then mounted some of the things from /var/.  that I didn't care about after reboot in tmpfs as well as browser cache for speed.
[08:42] <histo> lllsondowlll: I would image with clonezilla btw also.
[08:42] <Daughain> It seems to be balking at the sitemask.
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> histo: /var on the platter based drive helps too :)
[08:42] <Daughain> Since it wont even ping it.
[08:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm.
[08:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: webdav is what you were looking at?
[08:43] <jony_easyrider> it is possible to Ubuntu consume more battery on my laptop like it consumes in WIN?
[08:44] <Daughain> btzThats what I am supposed to be using, yes. Unfrtunately, I dont know anything about it.
[08:45] <llutz> jony_easyrider: yes, that's a common problem. good luck finding tweaks ...
[08:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: save yourself some time, type ntz<tab>, replacing <tab> with a tab key ;)
[08:45] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, The edits to the davfs2 files dont seem to be coming into play, aince it appears to be failing to connect to the server.
[08:46] <lllsondowlll> histo: I have taken this into conscideration and believe this is the route I will be taking after a little more research. I have two more questions if you would be willing to ablige. 1. Storage. I am a very heavy user in the sense that I will be using as many tools and programs at my disposable. Do you anticipate filling the 120 GB SSD with the exception of the /home system?
[08:46] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Been on irc for decades. Know that trick, dont type well. =)
[08:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: what version of ubuntu you useing? release and desktop, say Xubuntu 12.04/Lubuntu 12.10, etc
[08:47] <Daughain> 12.04 satanic
[08:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> dawhat is dat?
[08:47] <histo> lllsondowlll: 120GB for / is quite a bit when /home is elsewhere
[08:47] <histo> lllsondowlll: I'd challenge you to fill it
[08:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: no doubt, lol. I only dedicate 16gb to / on my system :P
[08:48] <Pumpkin-> stemid: /win 21
[08:48] <Pumpkin-> asfihafs
[08:48] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, call it a micro fork with heavy metal themed icons and wallpapers.
[08:48] <deanrock0> how much would be more than enough for / partition?
[08:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: ah. but what is the major de? unity, xfce, lxde, ?
[08:48] <mint> hi iam a4channer
[08:48] <Daughain> Unity is what I am using.
[08:48] <MonkeyDust> !partition | deanrock0
[08:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> deanrock0: 16gb is enough for me, 32 would be far more than enough for common uyse :P
[08:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: any kinda trust my way?
[08:49] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Define trust..
[08:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: or better yet, does box.com cost anything?
[08:50] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, I honestly dont know. I got this account with my Touchpad.
[08:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: see above alternet question :P
[08:51] <Daughain> Ntzsee above as well.
[08:51] <Daughain> =)
[08:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: basically do you think I'll screw you over just for the fun of it :P
[08:51] <anthony_>  /server irc.servercentral.net
[08:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> anthony_: no space XD
[08:51] <anthony_> oopd
[08:51] <anthony_> right
[08:51] <anthony_> getting used to this netbook keyboard
[08:51] <lllsondowlll> histo: I will be playing devils advocate in relation to your solution on launchpad answers to see if this configuration would be right for me (which I am now leaning to since my concern about my SSD have been eased). vs the configuration I initially anticipated. Given that my last question is this. In the event I need to format my SSD due to an OS breaking action on my part. Assuming these directories are very extensivly used o
[08:52] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, I dont thikn most poeple here are that way. I've been coming to this channel fopr help for years.
[08:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: because I honestly cant make heads or tails of this procedure without some sort of test action againsta a box.com account, but if its free I can make one and give it a shot myself
[08:53] <lllsondowlll> histo: do you believe formatting the SSD with a large amount of partition use will contribute more degradation to the SSD vs a smaller partition such as the bare requirement OS structure?
[08:53] <Daughain> Sure, if not, yes I would trust you with my L/P
[08:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: I appreciate the trust. let me investigate cost first, then maybe we should move this to a /q session
[08:53] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, I dont keep anything important in the cloud anyway. =)
[08:53] <histo> lllsondowlll: I though you were going to use one partition on the SSD?
[08:54] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, I dont know what a /q session is, but willing to try/.
[08:54] <llutz> Daughain: what is your problem with mounting a webdav-share? did you install davfs2, did you add your user to the davfs2-group and relogin after?
[08:54] <lllsondowlll> histo: I am but what I mean by this, formatting a SSD that has 3GB of storage use vs one that may have 60GB
[08:55] <histo> lllsondowlll: Either way the data will be spread across the SSD it doesn't work like a mechanical disk there is also controller wear leveling taking place on the drive.
[08:55] <llutz> Daughain: do you know the webdav-URL of your cloud-service and what is your /etc/fstab line for it? did you add your credentials to ~/.davfs2/secrets?
[08:55] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777,  Yes, yes, and was never asked to login in the first place, the guides all used a L/P file in davfs/secrets
[08:55] <histo> lllsondowlll: so if you write 60gb to an ssd vs 3gb yeah you are writing to more cells
[08:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, I see that :P
[08:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: seems a 5gb account is free, so I can test freely
[08:56] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, I only know what the guides gave me, other than knowing that the company changed from a .net address to a .com
[08:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: I've joined up, giving it a shot right now :P
[08:57] <raven> mplayer: another problem: want to use a matrox with nvidia gforce fx5200 for hardware decoding. nvidia drivers installed but mgx and vdpau and gl "no video" - how to?
[08:57] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, All the guides say to use 'https://www.box.com/dav'
[08:57] <Ben64> raven: i don't think that card does that
[08:58] <raven> Ben64, hm what would be the best solution to geht most performance?
[08:58] <elmacenderesi> arif-ali,
[08:58] <elmacenderesi> turk musun
[08:59] <lllsondowlll> histo: see that is my main concern. By placing the entire filesystem (minus home) on the SSD I may be contributing accelerated degradation during format and re-write (which is discouraged on SSD's anyway) Hmm. Well IF you have no further input I do thank you for your patience and sorry if I have been talking your ear off.  In the case I don't wish to bother you further I can take the rest of my questions to launchpad.
[08:59] <Ben64> raven: does it not play correctly with "xv" ?
[09:00] <lllsondowlll> histo: Also please excuse any spelling or grammer mistakes during our conversation as I was trying to run the scenero by you quickly.
[09:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: hmm, I use thunar, so this seems to not be a quick option for me...
[09:00] <raven> Ben64, problem is i have 9 simultaneous players
[09:00] <lllsondowlll> scenerio*
[09:01] <Ben64> raven: you can watch 9 things at a time?
[09:01] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, No worries, I dont need this soon anyway, just something I was trying to get done while I had a lot of 'downtime'
[09:01] <Daughain> Maybe you could help me with another confision of mine?
[09:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: honestly I like this, maybe if I get some cash I'll get a premium service for them :P
[09:01] <raven> Ben64, i have to ;)
[09:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: sure, I'm up for anything.
[09:02] <Daughain> How do I relocate a folder to the Bookmarks list?
[09:03] <MonkeyDust> Daughain  ctrl-D
[09:03] <Daughain> Actually, which file manager does Unity use?
[09:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: easy as pie on thunar, and likely so on nautilus too :P
[09:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: nautilus
[09:03] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Thanks.
[09:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: MonkeyDust was correct, also. ctrl+d should bookmark the folder you currently are inside of :P
[09:05] <Daughain> Thanks,  both of you. I went from kubuntu 10.04 to ubuntu 12.04, so still learning stuff.
[09:06] <histo> raven: what are you watching 9 of ? security cameras?
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: Nautilus bookmarks can be added in the cog menu in the top right corner (if memory serves)
[09:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: should check out xubuntu ;)
[09:06] <jony_easyrider> it is possible to Ubuntu consume more battery on my laptop like it consumes in WIN?
[09:06] <Daughain> ActionParsnip, I switched because I had to replace the computer. =)
[09:07] <jony_easyrider> llutz, ty for the answer
[09:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: hah, I've done it :D
[09:07] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, xubuntu?
[09:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> ubuntu + xfce desktop
[09:08] <Daughain> I looked at xfce once, and it confused me.... =) But then, I was seeing what DE my wife liked.
[09:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: see, check mah screenie: http://imagebin.org/263073 , in the lower left hand corner terminal
[09:08] <histo> jony_easyrider: do you have a dual GPU system?
[09:08] <histo> jony_easyrider: like a regular video card and a discrete card?
[09:09] <pschyska> jony_easyrider: If you have a thinkpad, I would check out http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/tlp.html (might also work well for non-thinkpads, but I never tested it). Also you could install powertop to check your power usage, get some power tuning tips and soo what processes or device are using a lot of power
[09:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: thanks for the challenge, this was fun and cool :P
[09:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> now I just need to try out the secrets method :D
[09:09] <pschyska> I get my usage down to 8-10w
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: could just use a stand alone WM :). No DE needed :D
[09:11] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, This was nothing. Should have been here the time I needed help networking a netbook I needed to install ubuntu on. =)
[09:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: heh, I'm quite taken with xfce, but I *had* to install some main ubuntu defaults (brasero, gedit, etc :P ), some of the xfce stuff just doesnt cut the mustard in my book :P
[09:11] <sindri> Hi, running a 12.04 ubuntu serv, and have never untill now had trouble connecting to it via filezilla. Any ideas what I might have botched up?
[09:11] <NikTh> ActionParsnip : Hi dude :)
[09:11] <histo> sindri: is it listening?
[09:12] <gordonjcp> gedit frw
[09:12] <gordonjcp> *ftw
[09:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: this could be very usefull info in the future. on another note, did you try using it without the .davfs/secrets file?
[09:12] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Not yet.
[09:12] <Daughain> Give me a sec.
[09:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> gordonjcp: yeap, and I have a custom built version that doesn't need that resource hoggin, privacy breaking, waste of hard drive zietgeist either :P
[09:12] <sindri> histro: Yes, I'm pretty sure it is
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> hi NikTh
[09:13] <histo> sindri: can you connect to it locally?
[09:14] <sindri> histro; no that's the thing - even allowed local users in the vsftpd.conf (can't remember me ever fiddling with that file before)
[09:14] <histo> sindri: so ftp localhost   doesn't work on that box?
[09:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: also, would you mind pastebining your /etc/fstab file ?
[09:16] <gordonjcp> ntzrmtthihu777: you couldn't pay me to care about the "privacy issues" with Zeitgeist
[09:17] <gordonjcp> ntzrmtthihu777: it's useful
[09:17] <sindri> histro: it has worked right out of the box, can't imagine why it stopped working
[09:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> gordonjcp: eh, I've never found use for it, and in general thats enough for me to apt-get purge it :P
[09:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> gordonjcp: but for each his own, lol.
[09:18] <histo> sindri: my nick has no 'r' in it btw
[09:18] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, http://pastebin.com/NcGf7kTY
[09:18] <histo> sindri: netstat -tan | grpe :22
[09:18] <histo> sindri: sory typo netstat -tan | grep :22
[09:18] <sindri> histo: hehe, sorry - isn't port 22 ssh?
[09:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: ok, and I assume you have a folder ~/Box.com, literally?
[09:19] <Daughain> Ya.
[09:19] <histo> sindri: sorry yeah grep :21
[09:19] <histo> sindri: i'm tired bare with me a bit
[09:20] <Daughain> And, even with the user line commented out of the davfs2/secrets file, nothi8ng changes.
[09:20] <sindri> histo: command doesn't return anything though :S
[09:20] <histo> sindri: please pastebin the output of netstat -tan
[09:20] <Daughain> And, I think I forgot my pastebin credentials....:(
[09:21] <BHLEGHELP> hi guys im in ubuntu 13.04 on a retina macbook pro 15inch and the screen sometimes flickers anyone got any ideas why this is? I already tried to install new nvidia graphics drivers but it made my system fail to boot just to a black screen, so i had to uninstall them in terminal and purge them in the refit terminal bit, so now im scared to do anything else....
[09:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: what is the exact command you used attempting to mount ~/Box.com?
[09:22] <Daughain> Mount ~/Box.com
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> BHLEGHELP: does it use an nvidia gpu?
[09:22] <BHLEGHELP> hey action parsnip mate u helped me the other day with the wireless stuff i was called HLEP then
[09:22] <sindri> hitso : http://pastebin.com/W5vE53KP
[09:22] <Daughain> Damn, are we still having issues with nvidia gpus?
[09:22] <BHLEGHELP> urm re your question i dont know
[09:23] <BHLEGHELP> how can i find out
[09:23] <histo> sindri: thats the netstat output from the server right?
[09:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: sh -c "echo $LINUS_NVIDIA_QUOTE" XD
[09:23] <sindri> yes
[09:23] <sindri> histo: yes*
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> BHLEGHELP: if you dont know, why did you install nvidia drivers?
[09:24] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Yeah, I remember that/.......
[09:24] <BHLEGHELP> well im pretty sure it does use gpu lol because on mac i was mining my gpu for bitcoins albeit unsuccessfully
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> BHLEGHELP: you can mine bitcoins on an Intel GPU if you want
[09:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: I hope you mean mount ~/Box.com and not Mount :P
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> BHLEGHELP: bitcoins means absolutely nothing
[09:25] <histo> sindri: sudo service vsftpd status
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> BHLEGHELP: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display    you will be shown
[09:25] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Yeah., vaps are a bad habit when conversing.
[09:25] <BHLEGHELP> but i must have gpu if i was mining it
[09:25] <BHLEGHELP> ye kl
[09:25] <Daughain> Caps, even/'
[09:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: depends on who you ask, lol.
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> BHLEGHELP: you can mine with INtel GPUs if you want
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> BHLEGHELP: again, means nothing
[09:26] <BHLEGHELP> is not an intel mac tho
[09:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: and what is the exact output of the mount command?
[09:27] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[09:27] <Daughain> mount: can't find /home/daughain/Box.com in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[09:27] <BHLEGHELP>   *-display                       description: VGA compatible controller        product: GK107M [GeForce GT 650M Mac Edition]        vendor: NVIDIA Corporation        physical id: 0        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0        version: a1        width: 64 bits        clock: 33MHz        capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom        configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0        resources: irq:16 memory:c
[09:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> try "mount Box.com" from ~, without the proceeding ~
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> BHLEGHELP: ok it is an nvidia, and what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[09:28] <sindri> histo: It's running alright, but I guess I'll have to really take a better look at the config; noticed I shouldn't be using my "normal" login user/pass according to a guide
[09:28]  * ntzrmtthihu777 is so glad he has an amd/ati video card :P
[09:29] <histo> sindri: I'm sure there is a vsftpd channel on freenode
[09:29] <BHLEGHELP> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[09:29] <teeceepee> log files eating up my disk space
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> BHLEGHELP: you do know that releas is only supported til January2014..
[09:29] <histo> teeceepee: which logs?
[09:29] <teeceepee> how do I zip them up ?
[09:29] <BHLEGHELP> isit?
[09:29] <BHLEGHELP> should i swith to 12?
[09:29] <histo> teeceepee: logrotate should handle that for you
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> BHLEGHELP: yes, it is not LTS
[09:29] <teeceepee> histo app logh
[09:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> teeceepee: man zip and zip --help are your friend here :P
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> BHLEGHELP: 12.04 is LTS and supported til April 2017
[09:30] <BHLEGHELP> ah cool i didnt know that, is it hard to downgrade/will i lose everything
[09:30] <teeceepee> how does log rotate works? I once used it, can't remember
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> BHLEGHELP: 12.10 although released before 13.04 is end of life in April 2014 (after 13.04)
[09:30] <syq> howto write a upstart conf to run a script that will not exit as service?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> BHLEGHELP: you will need to reinstall to get the older version
[09:30] <BHLEGHELP> yeh
[09:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> BHLEGHELP: depends on how you downgrade. a proper backup will keep your personal files, and you can clone your programs with this:
[09:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> !cloning | BHLEGHELP
[09:31] <sindri> histo: Thanks for help! I'll get to it later though :D
[09:31] <BHLEGHELP> sweet il do that
[09:31] <BHLEGHELP> will downgrading to 12 fix my screen issues do you think?
[09:32] <histo> teeceepee: gzip somefile
[09:32] <teeceepee> ok
[09:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: did you give the mount without ~/ a shot?
[09:33] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, No variation does anything but retrun the same error.
[09:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> very strange, as I can clearly see your fstab is set up what looks properly :/
[09:34] <xjkx> I installed tightvncserver and when I run the server, it like creates a new enviorment for me, I mean, when I connect with the viewer from another pc, it's not like I am controlling what is being seen in the machine, its like everything is happenning in background. But I want to see, and modify what is going on in the logged in session, what am I doing wrong ?
[09:35] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, And considering that when I try to ping the address I get an 'u nknown host' error, I thikn the whole line is failing there.
[09:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: only difference between my setup and your setup is I put my folder as ~/.box.com and the obvious username difference.
[09:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: you can forget the ping thing, lol. I was thinking along the lines of a samba server.
[09:35] <Daughain> .NtzThats why I came here asking questions.
[09:35] <Daughain> Ah....
[09:36] <sanav> i have a simple and stupid question .About Ultrabooks : 2 GB switchable graphic card and intel core i5 , backlit , 15' screen (Dell 15 z) .Now Question : When i run and install ubuntu its battery life is around 1 hour 25 minutes .I don't understand how to increase battry backup .Please tell me whats going wrong ! thanks
[09:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: this is my fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816277/ seems there is no diference here....
[09:36] <llutz> Daughain: edit your /etc/fstab, press ENTER after the last line, save. try again
[09:36] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, My fstab is the same as the one used on three guides as well....
[09:37] <Daughain> Ah.....Ok
[09:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: did you add yourself to the davfs group?
[09:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> llutz: a newline? is that all, for real?
[09:38] <Daughain> The adduser command? Yes.
[09:38] <Daughain> Or, is there someplace else I need to add myself?
[09:38] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777,  Added a garriage return to the line, and still nothing
[09:38] <Daughain> Carriage.
[09:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: I used sudo usermod -ag davfs2 ntzrmtthihu777
[09:39] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Let me try that. I nknow I havent used that one.
[09:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: in fact, here. I used this link and it worked for me 100% no issue first try, so give it a shot: http://is.gd/bbh6M3
[09:40] <dopie> hello all
[09:40] <cfhowlett> dopie, greetings
[09:40] <dopie> ok have a quick chmod 0666 question here
[09:40] <dopie> I get this error
[09:40] <dopie> Rails Error: Unable to access log file. Please ensure that /var/www/helloworld/releases/20130701092456/log/production.log exists and is chmod 0666. The log level has been raised to WARN and the output directed to STDERR until the problem is fixed.
[09:40] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, This is a lkink I hadnt seen before. I'll try it.
[09:40] <dopie> than i do
[09:41] <dopie> chmod 0666 /var/www/helloworld/releases/
[09:41] <dopie> now i cant even get inside releases
[09:41] <ikonia> dopie: you can
[09:41] <ikonia> dopie: why are you changing the directory permissions, it's a file permission
[09:41] <dopie> oh
[09:41] <ikonia> dopie: you need execute to be able to list the directory permissions
[09:42] <varunendra> dopie, a directory has to have the x bit to enable file listing.
[09:42] <dopie>  cd: releases/: Permission denied
[09:42] <ikonia> dopie: look at the error /var/www/helloworld/releases/20130701092456/log/production.log
[09:42] <ikonia> dopie: please do "ls -la /var/www/helloworld" and put the output in a pastebin please.
[09:43] <dopie> http://paste.pm/82n.js
[09:43] <dopie> thats what it says
[09:43] <KrizOne> hi guys, im using 12.04 LTS and i need to setup with the usual apache mysql php stuff, is it better to do using the LAMP stack or is it better to install each package manually?
[09:43] <ikonia> dopie: ok, now please do "id" and show me the output in the channel
[09:44] <dopie> uid=1000(deployer) gid=1000(deployer) groups=1000(deployer),27(sudo)
[09:44] <cfhowlett> KrizOne, can't see as how it'd make much difference.  either way, dependencies must be satisfied, etc. etc.
[09:44] <ikonia> dopie: ok, so chmod -R 0766 /var/www/hellowworld/releases
[09:45] <dopie> ok
[09:45] <dopie> did that
[09:45] <KrizOne> cfhowlett, i was imagining it similar to a cpanel setup, it works great until something goes wrong and then you have no idea how its working :P
[09:45] <vlt> KrizOne: I didn’t know there’s a LAMP pkg, is there?
[09:45] <dopie> im in the releases now
[09:45] <cfhowlett> KrizOne, that's why god invented logs ...
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> KrizOne: I'd use the taskel method. It is tried and tested
[09:45] <ikonia> dopie: ok, so now your directory permisions should be fixed, now you need to fix the log file
[09:45] <KrizOne> ok thanks :)
[09:45] <ikonia> dopie: the error complains about the log file permissions, so fix the logfile permissions, not the random directory above it
[09:45] <dopie> k
[09:46] <ikonia> dopie: it's important going forward, that you read the error properly,
[09:46] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777,  Well, the GUI method works for now, but I am still having the fstab issue.
[09:47] <llutz_> Daughain: have you added the newline at the end of fstab?
[09:47] <sanav> when i use win8 (preinstall OS) on my ultarbook (Dell 15 z 5523) its battery backup around 6 hours (without internet) .But when i install ubuntu , it gave me hardly 1 hour 25 minutes (without internet ) .My system specifications is http://www.lapspecs.com/detail/dell+inspiron+15z+ultrabook+-+5523 .Help me out ! please
[09:47] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Carriage return, yes.
[09:47] <Daughain> Two actually.
[09:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> quickie question, I want to replace all occurances of /home/ntzrmtthihu777 with $HOME to conserve space in my .bashrc, but I think sed 's:/home/ntzrmmtthihu777:$HOME:g' will insert the contents of $HOME , changing nothing, instead of the literal string $HOME. what should I do?
[09:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: did you do dpkg-reconfigure davfs2? and change the /etc/davfs2/davfs2.conf file to disable locks?
[09:48] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Yep.
[09:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> ignore sed question, a quick test fixed me :P
[09:49] <llutz_> ntzrmtthihu777: it shouldn't expand $HOME if you use single-quotes
[09:49] <Daughain> Though, theres a chmod in this guide I dont remember doing.......But that relates to the /secrets file
[09:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> llutz_: yeah, I just did a dry run, it worked fine :P
[09:50] <Daughain> I still have my L/P commented out as well.
[09:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: I have no idea why this is not working. I followed that guide to the tee, stopping short of the secrets file, and it worked no issue at all :/
[09:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> also I did not try the nautilus thing, as xubuntu does not have it, lol.
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: ask in #bash too. I believe you need to escape the dollar character. Unless you have a LOT of instances of the text you are saving very little space
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: however, you will be able to use the same bashrc file in multiple users as the $HOME will expand correctly
[09:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: quite a lot, actually XD. the rvm setup I use has quite alot of rubies and gemsets, and each one comes with /home/ntzrmtthihu777/ XD
[09:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: and I don't intend to have anyone else use this pc, so that is moot :P
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: oh well
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: the guys in #bash may be able to advise too, my bashfu is only yellow belt
[09:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: and, as I stated, ignore the sed question, I did a dry run and it worked fine with single quotes "''" :P
[09:54] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, If I add a line to fstab, and comment it out, it should still be read as there, just not actionable, correct?
[09:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: honestly I think commented lines in /etc/fstab are ignored completely.
[09:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> as with commented lines in almost all programming/scripting languages :P
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: comments will be ignored.
[09:55] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777,  :P I fix semis, not code computers.
[09:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol, fair enough. I code and kill bedbugs XD
[09:56] <cfhowlett> Daughain, I think you meant to say "Dammit, I'm a mechanic not a coder!"
[09:56] <gordonjcp> Daughain: commented lines are just plain ignored
[09:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> XD sounds about right :P
[09:56] <Daughain> But, the newline/carriage return should be noted...??
[09:57] <Daughain> cfhowlett, lol.
[09:57] <llutz> Daughain: the file has to end with a newline, so not with "#<nonewlinefollowing>"
[09:58] <dfrank> hi. I mistakenly upgraded apache2.2 to apache2.4, now I'm trying to get things back. But now apache fails to read configs, and I can't even delete it: apt-get tries to stop apache, got errors, just said "Errors were encountered while procssing: apache2", and does nothing useful. How to do that?
[09:58] <Daughain> Trying to figure out why I am still getting a 'no final newline' error. I added the commented line to add another newline.
[09:58] <dfrank> more, I have some troubles with locale =(  here's output of 'apt-get remove apache2' http://pastebin.com/ncAHjWG5
[09:58] <ikonia> dfrank: how did you do it by accident
[09:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: try 2 blank lines at the end :P
[09:58] <llutz> Daughain: what is so hard to understand with "just add a newline"?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: go to the end of the last line and hit ENTER
[09:59] <Daughain> No nshit I keep doing that!!!!!
[09:59] <llutz> Daughain: you don't need # (comment-signs), any empty line in fstab will be ignored
[09:59] <ikonia> Daughain: control the language please.
[09:59] <Daughain> Sorry, getting a bit frustrated is all. I've added 7 newlines already.
[09:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: what text editor are you using?
[09:59] <Daughain> Gedit as su
[10:00] <ikonia> as "su"....
[10:00] <ikonia> please.
[10:00] <Daughain> Root
[10:00] <llutz> Daughain: pastebin your fstab-file pls
[10:00] <dfrank> ikonia: well, I tried to install pecl_http and following instructions from there http://www.php.net/http.install.php
[10:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> llutz: he has done so, it looks to be all in order :/
[10:00] <dfrank> my bad
[10:00] <llutz> ntzrmtthihu777: the last one was still missing the newline at the end
[10:00] <ikonia> dfrank: there is nothing in there that will upgrade apache
[10:01] <dfrank> ikonia: well, I really not sure why
[10:01] <ikonia> dfrank: what version of ubuntu are you running
[10:01] <ikonia> !info apache2
[10:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah, this makes me happy. finally got redcar running :P
[10:02] <Daughain> http://pastebin.com/NcGf7kTY
[10:03] <dfrank> ikonia: and, actually, I use debian. I'm sorry for not saying it in my first post.  I just hoped that ubuntu people might help for debian too. I asked on #debian too of course, but no one replied, and I need to solve this as fast as possible.
[10:03] <llutz> Daughain: are you joking?
[10:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: don't get upset, but this paste shows no blank line at the end of the file.
[10:03] <ikonia> dfrank: ok, please don't bring debian support questions in here
[10:03] <llutz> Daughain: there is no newline at all following the https:/..... line
[10:03] <dfrank> ikonia: ok, I will not. sorry
[10:04] <ikonia> dfrank: not a problem, thank you
[10:04] <Daughain> lets try a new paste then. I tend not to copy blank lines.
[10:04] <FfoO> Good day to every one.
[10:05] <Daughain> http://pastebin.com/5TDZhbuw
[10:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: should use pastebinit :P in a terminal run pastebinit /etc/fstab and it works wonderously :P
[10:06] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Thanks for the tip. I'm still a greasemonkey, not a codemonkey.
[10:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: np, I'm only barely a codemonkey, more emphasis on the monkey :P
[10:07] <Daughain> lol
[10:07] <Daughain> At least you go home clean.
[10:08] <Daughain> So, does that paste show newlines?
[10:08] <FfoO> I need help: I have two ubuntu based OS and I would like to switch management of boot to the second one. Should I just command to install GRUB on the second one?
[10:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: it seems not :/
[10:09] <FfoO> There is no partition for only GRUB, by the way.
[10:09] <Daughain> Ok, lety me try editing it in nano
[10:10] <ikonia> FfoO: which OS's are they
[10:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> llutz: to be honest I see no newline in my pastebinned fstab :/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816368/ but as I've stated, mine worked 100% out of box :P
[10:11] <dopie> lrwxrwxrwx 1 deployer deployer   43 Jul  1 09:51 current -> /var/www/helloworld/releases/20130701094544
[10:11] <dopie> what does that mean?
[10:11] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, forgot to mention pastebinit needs to be installed. :P
[10:11] <ikonia> dfrank: you've created a symlink
[10:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> dopie: it means its owned by deployer, group deployer, with permissions 777 :P
[10:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: oh wow, thought that was default XD
[10:12] <FfoO> ikonia: ubuntu 12.04 LTS managing boot, 12.10 Studio.
[10:12] <dfrank> ikonia: which symlink did I created?
[10:12] <Daughain> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816372/
[10:12] <Daughain> After using nano to add two newlines
[10:12] <ikonia> dfrank: sorry, that was for dopie
[10:12] <ikonia> dopie: it means you've created a symlink
[10:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm. not to demean you, but are you 100% certain that there are no typos in the davfs line?
[10:13] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Its cool, and thanks for letting me know about it.
[10:13] <dopie> because im running nginx
[10:13] <dopie> and it just messed up
[10:13] <ikonia> FfoO: basically you change the default entry in your grub config in /etc/grub.d or /etc/grub and run update-grub to rebuild your grub config
[10:13] <Daughain> SO, do newlines show up in that paste?
[10:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: nope, but I'll take your word for it as my paste shows no newline either but it works 100%
[10:15] <Daughain> And, still getting that error/.
[10:17] <Daughain> Does it make a difference if I add the needed line in mtab?
[10:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: mtab seems to not come into this equation at all. I never touched mine
[10:18] <narcos> Any protips on speaking USSD to a 3G modem? e.g. *#101#
[10:18] <FfoO> I already did that; but I would like to switch management so I would have to do this often every time they update. Nevertheless, I was thinking of leaving GRUB to LTS Server anyway, he is the server, he deserves =b . Thank you so much, ikonia.
[10:18] <Daughain> brb, gonna reboot.
[10:19] <dazzle> I have 3 x 2TB. What should I do - raid1 + spare or raid5?
[10:20] <ikonia> dazzle: depends on your needs
[10:20] <dazzle> ikonia: Very long term storage, not much reading/writing
[10:21] <ikonia> dazzle: that's not really clear, though as the differences you've just given are 2TB mirrored + space, or 4 TB striped with a parity disk
[10:21] <dopie> -rw-rw-r--  1 deployer deployer  160 Jul  1 08:22 config.ru
[10:21] <dopie> do need anymore settings
[10:21] <dopie> for this file
[10:21] <dopie> ?
[10:21] <FloodBot1> dopie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:21] <ikonia> dopie: it depends on what you need
[10:21] <ikonia> dopie: I suggest talking to the person who wrote the guide you are using
[10:22] <wzj> hi
[10:22] <wzj> hello geekers
[10:22] <dazzle> ikonia: So basically neither is notably better than the other?
[10:22] <ikonia> dazzle: no, they are different, you pick the one that meets your needs best
[10:23] <wzj> ok, i'm the air
[10:23] <FfoO> Does anyone know how to save a text file with a hidden connection (ESSID) info so I wouldn't need to type on terminal every time I log in?
[10:23] <ikonia> wzj: what ?
[10:23] <dazzle> ikonia: Where would raid5 be better? As I see it, both give about 4 TB of space.
[10:23] <DJones> wzj: Do you have an Ubuntu support question, please remember this channel isn't for general chat, it deals with support issues
[10:23] <ikonia> dazzle: no they don't
[10:23] <cfhowlett> !topic|wzj, methinks you just might be in the wrong channel ...
[10:23] <ikonia> dazzle: raid 1 will give 2TB of disk space
[10:24] <wzj> just poor english. ....
[10:24] <dazzle> ikonia: Argh, you are correct, I misunderstood >.<
[10:24] <FfoO> wzj, what's your mother language?
[10:24] <lunix_> hello. im trying to install ubuntu from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD. I'm installing 12.04, but when i get to set Download Installer Components, installing freezes. The ethernet leds blink some seconds and then stop.
[10:25] <wzj> chinese
[10:25] <FfoO> cool
[10:25] <cfhowlett> !cn|wzj,
[10:25] <wzj> thanks
[10:26] <sirmio> Hello room
[10:26] <lunix_> I checked the md5sum. i tried the cd and iso file on virtualbox, the cd also on 2 machines.
[10:26] <cfhowlett> sirmio, greetings
[10:26] <dopie> Please ensure that Nginx has permissions to access /home/test/test.
[10:26] <Daughain> WEll, that didnt help anything.
[10:26] <dopie> is what i get
[10:26] <dopie> when i search for it
[10:26] <dopie> but isnt r-w permission enough?
[10:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: this is really starting to irk me :/
[10:26] <dopie> how do i give that file full permissions?
[10:26] <ikonia> dopie: right, so you need to make sure the user running nginx can access that directory
[10:27] <dopie> correct
[10:27] <dopie> which is deployer
[10:27] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, I spent an hour on my own before I stopped in here/
[10:27] <ikonia> dopie: ok, so what user is running the nginx process ?
[10:27] <dopie> deployer is running
[10:27] <dopie> -rw-rw-r--  1 deployer deployer  160 Jul  1 08:22 config.ru
[10:27] <dopie> and thats the info on him
[10:27] <ikonia> dopie: ok, so deployer can read and write to that file
[10:27] <dopie> yes
[10:27] <ikonia> dopie: so if ngnix can then read and write to that file
[10:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: I fail to see why this is not working. perhaps I set something up when setting up my samba mounts that you are missing....
[10:28] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, I even relocated the entire line, and still getting the same error.
[10:28] <foubarre> Hello. Is there a way to reverse the order of boot options generated by update-grub?
[10:28] <foubarre> or force them beforehand?
[10:28] <ikonia> foubarre: why does the order matter ?
[10:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: I'ma chheck something, so gimme a sec k?
[10:29] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777,  No worries, take all the time you need.
[10:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: I believe he wants to switch primary os's :P
[10:29] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: so the order doesn't matter than, just selecting the default is all that's needed
[10:29] <dopie> ikonia,  yes it can so i dont know the 2nd part?
[10:30] <ikonia> dopie: what second part ?
[10:30] <dopie> not sure
[10:30] <dopie> thought you were going to say something else
[10:30] <foubarre> ikonia: i'm using the GRUB_DEFAULT=save option, so that i can do a grub-reboot that works. I would need the last boot option to be the default one and it is the first one currently. Result of that is that it boots on wrong partition by default.
[10:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: run the command "groups" and give me the result here. should only be a line
[10:31] <Daughain> daughain adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare davfs2
[10:31] <ikonia> foubarre: sorry, I don't understand why the display order is a factor here
[10:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> wow, strange. I don't even have davfs2 on mine.
[10:31] <sirmio> Let me ask. How can i install aclocal-1.13 on my Ubuntu ? because when a entry:
[10:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: aesthetics :P
[10:32] <sirmio> $]aclocal --version
[10:32] <sirmio> output :
[10:32] <sirmio> aclocal (GNU automake) 1.11.3
[10:32] <sirmio> Anyone for help ?
[10:32] <ikonia> sirmio: that's not a question
[10:32] <ikonia> sirmio: that's just stating your version
[10:32] <BuzUVT> :)
[10:32] <foubarre> ikonia: grub-reboot works if GRUB_DEFAULT=save is set and the result of such an option is that grub autoselects the last boot entry.
[10:32] <quitter> hello,everyone
[10:33] <cfhowlett> quitter, greetings
[10:33] <frank> who is Kenya on this chat room need some help
[10:33] <ikonia> foubarre: the last as in "last used" not last in the menu
[10:33] <sirmio> How i can stating my aclocal version ?
[10:33] <ikonia> sirmio: you just did
[10:34] <quitter> trying to sweet talk my gf into running ubuntu
[10:34] <foubarre> ikonia: hm. that's not the behavior i saw. Testing some more.. thanks.. brb
[10:34] <sirmio> ikonia: what is the command ?
[10:34] <ikonia> sirmio: you've just pasted it into the channel !
[10:35] <sirmio> (cd automake-1.13 && make && make install ?)
[10:35] <ikonia> sirmio: no
[10:35] <ikonia> sirmio: aclocal --version
[10:35] <ikonia> sirmio: you just typed it into thc channel, it showed your version
[10:35] <ikonia> 11:32 < sirmio> aclocal (GNU automake) 1.11.3
[10:35] <ikonia> sirmio: you are using aclocal 1.11.3
[10:35] <cfhowlett> quitter, why talk.  install virtualbox to windows, put ubuntu in virtualbox or boot a live usb and him/her/it play with ubuntu
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> quitter  start here http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings
[10:36] <sirmio> But i want the version 1.13
[10:36] <ikonia> quitter: why not let her run what she wants to run, it's her machine and her choice
[10:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: I'm at a loss :/
[10:36] <ikonia> rather than trying to talk her into something you want her to do
[10:36] <lunix_> hello. im trying to install ubuntu from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD. I'm installing 12.04 x86, but when i get to step Download Installer Components, installing freezes. The ethernet leds blink some seconds and then stop. I checked md5sum and tried the iso on virtualbox and the burned cd on virtualbox, on this machine boot, and on another machine.
[10:36] <foubarre> ikonia: still boots last entry, while i previously manually selected the first one. Should manually selecting the first boot entry save it?
[10:37] <ikonia> foubarre: sounds very odd behaviour
[10:37] <foubarre> ikonia: true..
[10:37] <ikonia> foubarre: try it
[10:37] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, So am I, so nothing new there.Half tempted to rewrite my fstab, and save the old one under a new name
[10:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: just used the ~/.davfs2/secrets option, also works fine.
[10:38] <wzj> girl
[10:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> channel: I'm a member of netdev, but Daughain is not, would this make a difference?
[10:39] <cfhowlett> !topic|wzj,
[10:39] <wzj> sorry
[10:39] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, I cant even get that far. My problem seems to be in my fstab.
[10:40] <mat619> Hi there. Recently I installed 12.04 on an ancient Pentium II laptop, a Fujitsu LifeBook C345 - for use as a text only system. When I issue a poweroff command or "shutdown -h now" it seems to end all tasks, etc., and stops at "System halted", without actually powering off. Any ideas why?
[10:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: which is what puzzles me. aside from the obvious needed differences between mine and yours they are the same :/
[10:40] <mat619> Arch Linux and SuSE 9.0, which were running on that brick before, didn't have that issue, for some reason
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> mat619: are there any bugs reported?
[10:41] <mat619> ActionParsnip: for this old hardware? none of which I'd know
[10:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: add yourself to the netdev group, running mount on my box with .box.com mounted gives me this bit of info: https://www.box.com/dav on /home/ntzrmtthihu777/.box.com type davfs (rw,nosuid,noexec,nodev,_netdev,user=ntzrmtthihu777)
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> mat619: for the OS on that hardware, etc
[10:45] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, netdev?
[10:46] <mat619> ActionParsnip: no, not a single one for LifeBook Cxxx devices and only one regarding a HP micro server which didn't powerdown with "poweroff", but did with "shutdown -h now". My dinosaur does neither
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> mat619: try adding the boot options: acpi=off apm=on
[10:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: try this: "sudo addgroup netdev daughain"
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> mat619: http://askubuntu.com/questions/223185/system-shutdown-stopped-working
[10:47] <Daughain> "user netdev does not exist"
[10:47] <theadmin> Daughain: Don't do that, it's not of any use
[10:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> hm. perhaps I had that backwards :P
[10:47] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: You're looking for "adduser", not "addgroup"
[10:48] <foubarre> ikonia: GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT was missing in the grub config file. Thanks for pointing me in the direction of an incorrect behavior.
[10:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: its the only difference I can see between his non functioning and my functioning box.com fstab entry
[10:48] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: adduser daughain netdev
[10:48] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Oh. Huh.
[10:48] <sirmio> Thank you for you attention. I have solved my probleme. I can use aclocal-1.13 on ubuntu 11 by installing automake-1.13(by ftp://...1.13.tar.gz) and adjusting PATH variable environnement.
[10:48] <Daughain> theadmin: My problem is in my Fstab file not reading an eol
[10:48] <sirmio> Have a  good day :)
[10:49] <theadmin> Daughain: Can I of seeings the fstab (the whole file)?
[10:49] <mat619> ActionParsnip: does not apply to my problem, unfortunately. 1), wrong OS version, and 2) different outcome. mine stops at "System halted", not "Power down"
[10:49] <theadmin> mat619: What's your problem? Not being able to shutdown properly?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> mat619: worth a try
[10:49] <Daughain> theadmin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816438/
[10:50] <theadmin> mat619: That's normally a fairly easy fix, add reboot=bios to your GRUB kernel command line (GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT)
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> mat619: just apply it to boot the one time, if it works then modify grub so it is a long term fix
[10:50] <mat619> ActionParsnip: that's true. will try to disable the NICs before shutting down
[10:50] <ikonia> theadmin: thats a nice trick, is that grub2 only ?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> mat619: strange you are so dismissive when its easy to test and is free....
[10:51] <theadmin> ikonia: Nah, it's in the Linux kernel, has a few differet ways of trigerring reboots
[10:51] <mat619> ActionParsnip: I'm not dismissive, I just doubt that my issue is exactly the same as posted in that bug report
[10:51] <theadmin> ikonia: Normally relies on ACPI but can call to BIOS too which *sometimes* works better
[10:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: and my working setup  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816442/
[10:51] <mat619> ActionParsnip: as I said I'll give it a try
[10:51] <ikonia> theadmin: ahhh, it's the kernel boot parameter "reboot" not a grub option
[10:52] <mat619> theadmin: I will try that as well, good hint
[10:52] <mat619> thank you both for your input
[10:52] <ikonia> theadmin: I thought you where saying there is a grub option - which I thought was very cool
[10:52] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777, Daughain: Think I see the problem :P The lines in fstab are processed in the order they are met, doing stuff before something as critical as /proc is mounted may be a bad idea. Daughain move the line to the end of the file.
[10:53] <mat619> theadmin: and regarding your question (didn't see it first), yes, my FSC Lifebook dinosaur doesn't actually power off, it just stops at "System halted"
[10:53] <Daughain> theadmin, When it was at the end of the file, it had the same error. No matter what I do, I get the same error:
[10:53] <Daughain> [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[10:53] <Daughain> mount: can't find /home/daughain/Box.com in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:54] <mat619> theadmin: which is double annoying since the power button on that model puts it to sleep, regardless of the system state (it can even suspend a booting kernel, very funny!) and the only way to power if off then is suspend, power on, suspend, power off. weird bios bug maybe, dunno
[10:54] <narcos> Any savy with AT command and USB modems? I'm trying to send   AT+CUSD=1,"*#10#",15   to get my balance, but just get "ERROR" back
[10:55] <varunendra> mat619, have you also tried "sudo shutdown -P 0" ?
[10:55] <theadmin> Daughain: That's very strange error. Can you load the file in vi and then :set list? It should display dollars ($) at the end of every line. Does it?
[10:55] <mat619> varunendra: uhm no, didn't know that one. what's the difference to "-h now"?
[10:55] <Daughain> theadmin, Let me check.
[10:56] <Ben64> mat619: have you checked the man page for shutdown?
[10:56] <varunendra> mat619, it explicitly tells the command to power off after bringing down the system.
[10:57] <varunendra> in fact I sometimes have to use it, I never tried -h though.
[10:57] <circle> i need to return some video tapes
[10:57] <Daughain> theadmin, For me, I have ~ characters for newlines, but I am showing 8. I'm also getting an "incomplete last line" error in vi.
[10:57] <mat619> Ben64: not recently :)  I'm not sitting in front of a *nix box right now, that's why I asked
[10:58] <mat619> varunendra: good point, will give it a try. thx for the hint
[10:58] <varunendra> pleasure !
[10:58] <theadmin> Daughain: GA<enter><esc>:wq
[10:58] <theadmin> Daughain: That is, add a new line at the end. Empty one.
[10:59] <theadmin> Daughain: Also, is the file properly encoded? What did you edit it with?
[10:59] <theadmin> Daughain: That is, when you added that line
[10:59] <Daughain> sudo gedit
[11:00] <theadmin> Daughain: Ah, should be fine. Still, though, need a newline at the end I think
[11:00] <Daughain> theadmin, And I have no clue what that first  thing you said to me means/.
[11:00] <theadmin> Daughain: First thing? Which one?
[11:01] <varunendra> Daughain, gedit should be opened with gksu or gksudo. No GUI app should be run with sudo.
[11:01] <Daughain> theadmin, GS<enter><esc>:q
[11:01] <lagbun> hello. sorry for my bad english, can you tell me how can I disable the open effect on ubuntu?
[11:02] <theadmin> Daughain: G = go to end of file, A = add at end of line, Enter = enter key, Escape = return to command mode, :wq = save and exit
[11:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: and for furture reference always use gksudo gedit, not sudo. sudo is for command line programs like nano only, graphical programs like gedit should be ran with gksudo :P
[11:02] <theadmin> Daughain: That's a vi command
[11:02] <Daughain> theadmin, I dont know how to use vi.
[11:02] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, So whats the difference
[11:02] <theadmin> Daughain: Eh, you get the point, though, add an empty line at the end. With any editor.
[11:03] <Daughain> theadmin, This will be the 9th line I am adding.
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> lagbun  i guess you mean the animations. use unity-tweak-tool, window manager, general
[11:03] <histo> Couldn't he just echo /n >> somefile
[11:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: using sudo with a graphical application can change ownership of files in ~/ that will cause you problems down the road :P
[11:04] <histo> nvm
[11:04] <Daughain> nytzOk, thanks for explaining that.
[11:05] <Daughain> Still not accepting a newline.
[11:05] <lagbun> MonkeyDust: I mean the open animation, when you open any program
[11:05] <Daughain> Using gksudo gedit this time.
[11:06] <histo> Daughain: echo >> somefile  would put a new line at the end of the file
[11:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: no prob. I was all "huh?" the first time I heard it, but its become second nature now :P
[11:07] <Daughain> histo, HUnh??? I'm a mechanic.
[11:07] <Gigajoule> what's the cmd for renaming?
[11:07] <histo> Daughain: did you get the new line at the end of the file?
[11:07] <histo> Gigajoule: mv someold somenew
[11:07] <Daughain> histo, aparently not.
[11:07] <Gigajoule> in irc
[11:07] <Gigajoule> ^^
[11:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> now what would be nifty is a .bashrc alias that checks if the program being run sudo someprogram is graphical and run instead gksudo someprogram
[11:08] <histo> Gigajoule: renaming what?
[11:08] <Gigajoule> change the name from my irc account
[11:08] <cfhowlett> !nick|Gigajoule,
[11:08] <histo> Gigajoule: /nick some_name
[11:08] <Gigajoule> k ty
[11:08] <circle> i need to return some video tapes
[11:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: echo >> file echo's (prints) nothing into the end of (>>) a file
[11:09] <histo> Daughain: you could  type "echo >> somefile" in a terminal to put a new line at the end of the file
[11:09] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: no it prints a new line
[11:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: for example, echo "foobar" >> somefile will add the words foobar to the end of somefile.
[11:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: was getting to that :P
[11:10] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Now, that makes sense. =)
[11:10] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Permission denied.
[11:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: ah, forgot it was a system file.
[11:11] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777,  At least when trying to write it to fstab
[11:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: in this case "echo "" | sudo tee /etc/fstab" is what you need, without the outer quotes.
[11:11] <histo> Daughain: echo | sudo tee -a somefile
[11:12] <varunendra> ntzrmtthihu777, forgot -a :)
[11:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> varunendra: so it is :P
[11:12] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777:  his file will be overwritten without it
[11:12] <Daughain> histo, thanks, that seemed to work.
[11:12] <blazemore> Does anyone know if gksu (and family, such as kdesu) can respect the NOPASSWD option of /etc/sudoers ?
[11:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: holy crap.
[11:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> k desu ka?
[11:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> XD
[11:13] <histo> Daughain: what file are you editing by the way?
[11:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: /etc/fstab
[11:13] <histo> ughh
[11:13] <varunendra> XD
[11:13] <histo> Daughain: did you use my command or ntzrmtthihu777's without the -a ?
[11:13] <blazemore> "kdesu" could be an anime imageboard-reader for KDE...
[11:13] <Daughain> histo,  ntzrmtthihu777  that solved the eol issue. Now confused by this error:
[11:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: trying to add a davfs to it. he recently pastebinned his /etc/fstab so its available were I to have screwed him :/
[11:14] <Daughain> mount: can't find /home/daughain/Box.com in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: a thousand pardons for my almost catastrophy
[11:14] <Daughain> histo, I used your command
[11:15] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, No worries, I dont even nknow what it might have been.
[11:15] <llutz> Daughain: grep box.com /etc/fstab
[11:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: a screwed up /etc/fstab basically screws *you*
[11:15] <varunendra> ntzrmtthihu777, it's just a "-a", happens ;D
[11:15] <blazemore> ntzrmtthihu777: Don't worry too much about your almost catatrophe: I once had someone dd to /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda2. That was fun
[11:16] <histo> Daughain: any reason you are adding blank lines to the end of your fstab?
[11:16] <varunendra> blazemore, :O
[11:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: because it kept complaining about missing newlines
[11:16] <Daughain> histo, Yes, I was getting a 'no newline" error, and trying to fix it.
[11:16] <histo> Daughain: where was it complaining?
[11:16] <blazemore> varunendra: It was OK, I also forgot sudo, so it wasn't actually catastrophic
[11:17] <varunendra> XD fun really then..
[11:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: ... dayum. thats bad XD
[11:17] <blazemore> I was tired
[11:18] <histo> Daughain: blank lines in fstab are ignored
[11:18] <Daughain> histo, Ok, I am trying to mount my Box.com acct. I followed the guides I found, and keep getting fstab errors. ntzrmtthihu777  decided to duplicate my issue, and had no errors at all, even though we used the same guide to mount the share.
[11:18] <llutz> histo: but you get a warning (not an error) if the last line from fstab isn't ended with a newline
[11:18] <Daughain> I am still getting fstab errors trying to mount this acct.
[11:18] <blazemore> Daughain: Are you sure it's not something embarrasing like the wrong box.com password?
[11:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: I used this guide, worked 100% no problem http://xmodulo.com/2013/02/how-to-mount-box-com-cloud-storage-on-linux.html
[11:18] <llutz> Daughain: grep box.com /etc/fstab
[11:19] <Daughain> llutz, I did, it didnt help.
[11:19] <blazemore> Daughain: What does it say, though?
[11:19] <llutz> Daughain: what is the output?
[11:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: it seems to not even get passed it.
[11:19] <histo> Daughain: no idea what a box.com account is. But my suggestion to you would be to mount it via command line to figure out options etc... then add the working ones to your fstab
[11:19] <Daughain> blaIt doent even get that far.
[11:19] <histo> llutz: grep -i box.com from what he keeps typing
[11:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: for future reference when someone wants you to grep a file it means grep search-for-this in-this-file'
[11:19] <blazemore> yes Daughain try to get it mounted manually before you add it to your fstab - that way you only have one set of problems to contend with
[11:19] <Daughain> Mount: can't find /home/daughain/Box.com in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:20] <llutz> Daughain: grep -i box.com /etc/fstab                 what ouput of this command?
[11:20] <blazemore> Daughain: What command are you running to give you that error?
[11:20] <Daughain> Mount ~/Box.com
[11:20] <histo> llutz: where would you see a warning from fstab not ending in a new line?
[11:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: he means mount. he tends to capitalize here.
[11:20] <blazemore> Daughain: grep -i box.com /etc/fstab                 what ouput of this command?
[11:20] <llutz> histo: scroll back
[11:20] <Daughain> nothing.
[11:20] <histo> llutz: scroll back in what?
[11:20] <Daughain> No output.
[11:20] <blazemore> Daughain: There's your problem then
[11:21] <Daughain> You spelled it wrong.
[11:21] <llutz> histo: here, he pasted the warning earlier
[11:21] <blazemore> Daughain: You're saying to your computer "please mount ~/Box.com using the information I've provided in /etc/fstab" - but you haven't actually added anything to /etc/fstab
[11:21] <llutz> Daughain: so you haven't added the line to /etc/fstab. i don't know WHAT file you edited, it was the wrong one
[11:22] <blazemore> dat satisfaction when it turns out to be something obvious :)
[11:22] <histo> llutz: the error he received was in regards to vi not fstab
[11:22] <Daughain> Strangely, the line shows in vi, nano, and gedit.
[11:22] <histo> Daughain: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[11:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[11:23] <blazemore> ntzrmtthihu777: red herring
[11:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: he's pastebinned his fstab about a million times already :P
[11:23] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: What is giving him that warning message was my question?
[11:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> mount ~/Box.com
[11:23] <Daughain> And, for the fifth time tonight: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816503/
[11:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: what is?
[11:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: eep, nothing in it.
[11:24] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: when the system processes the fstab files blank lines are ignored.
[11:24] <blazemore> Daughain: That paste is empty...
[11:24] <llutz> ntzrmtthihu777: obviously he pasted the wrong file then
[11:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> llutz: or perhaps he mistakenly followed my tee without -a :(
[11:24] <Daughain> give me a few minutes.
[11:24] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: llutz From man: Each filesystem is described on a separate line; fields on  each
[11:24] <histo>        line are separated by tabs or spaces.  Lines starting with '#' are com‐
[11:24] <histo>        ments, blank lines are ignored.
[11:24] <kelly> hi guys , I've some clips with vob format , which program read this format , i want to edit the clips.
[11:25] <histo> kelly: I would convert them to something else using ffmpeg
[11:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: don't tell it to me, mine worked :P
[11:25] <llutz> histo: i know that, the point is: the last not empty line of fstab has to be followed by a newline
[11:25] <blazemore> Daughain: Try "mount /home/daughain/Box.com" just humour me
[11:25] <histo> llutz: Mine isn't on any of my systems
[11:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: ffmpeg is depreciated. avconv is the new thing :P
[11:25] <deepu> any one whats the difference between linux and unix
[11:25] <kelly> i don't know how can i use ffmpeg , could you please give an example
[11:25] <deepu> any one whats the difference between linux and unix ??
[11:25] <blazemore> deepu: http://www.diffen.com/difference/Linux_vs_Unix
[11:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> deepu: unix came first. linux made linux, modeling it after unix.
[11:26] <ikonia> ffmpeg is still active
[11:26] <blazemore> deepu: Kinda like the difference between DOTA and LoL
[11:26] <histo> when did ffmpeg get deprecated
[11:26] <ikonia> deepu: many things - it is very specific
[11:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: using an old version of youtube-dl that uses ffmpeg gives said warning.
[11:26] <Daughain> Whats the command to rename a file?
[11:26] <deepu> can any one tell any fast converssion tool for ubuntu
[11:27] <blazemore> Daughain: mv oldfile newfile
[11:27] <blazemore> deepu: COnvert what?
[11:27] <ikonia> deepu: conversion of what ?
[11:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: infact, just run ffmpeg in your terminal without anything else and see what it tells ya :P
[11:27] <deepu> video to android
[11:27] <deepu> verssion
[11:27] <caodepalha> hi everyone! just installed ubuntu 12.04... its running quite slow... how can i fix this?
[11:27] <ikonia> deepu: handbrake
[11:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> ffmpeg version 0.8.6-4:0.8.6-0ubuntu0.12.04.1, Copyright (c) 2000-2013 the Libav developers
[11:27] <blazemore> deepu: Handbrake is "the" video converter for every platform
[11:27] <ntzrmtthihu777>   built on Apr  2 2013 17:02:36 with gcc 4.6.3
[11:27] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: that has to do with the version in the repos
[11:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> *** THIS PROGRAM IS DEPRECATED ***
[11:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> This program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in a future release. Please use avconv instead.
[11:27] <FloodBot1> ntzrmtthihu777: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:27] <jrib> histo: it got forked and maintainers prefer the fork (avconv)
[11:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> Use -h to get full help or, even better, run 'man ffmpeg'
[11:28] <histo> jrib: ahh
[11:28] <deepu> is handbreak in ubuntu
[11:28] <deepu> software center
[11:28] <ikonia> deepu: its available
[11:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> deepu: we would not suggest it if it wasn't
[11:28] <blazemore> deepu: Yes, it is in the repositories; use the Software Centre to search for it and install it
[11:28] <Daughain> Goody, I'm screwed.
[11:29] <blazemore> deepu: Make sure you search for "handbrake" not "handbreak"
[11:29] <caodepalha> ubuntu is running very slow
[11:29] <blazemore> Daughain: How so?
[11:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: ah, so installed from source would be newer?
[11:29] <Daughain> My fstab is now blank.
[11:29] <histo> Daughain: don't reboot
[11:29] <kelly> can "handbrake" convert vob format ?
[11:29] <blazemore> Daughain: Don't reboot
[11:29] <Daughain> No #$%^&
[11:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816438/
[11:29] <varunendra> Daughain, "cat /etc/fstab" gives any output?? Time to search back your previous pastebin links ??
[11:29] <histo> Daughain: did you make a back up of your fstab?
[11:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: your fstab, saved by pastebin :P
[11:29] <ikonia> Daughain: use the pastebins of your fstab you've posted to restore it
[11:29] <blazemore> Daughain: Find one of your many many pastebin links. To be 100% sure use "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" to edit
[11:29] <deepu> its not available
[11:30] <deepu> in ubuntu soft center
[11:30] <blazemore> deepu: Did you spell it right? "handbrake"
[11:30] <llutz> histo: "tail -1 /etc/fstab|hexdump" shows your fstab not ending with "000a"?
[11:30] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, I guess all those pastes are useful now.
[11:30] <ikonia> !info hanrbrake
[11:30] <blazemore> deepu: It's just you called it "handbreak" earlier
[11:30] <deepu> yes
[11:30] <varunendra> blazemore, gksu, not sudo.
[11:30] <deepu> i corrected
[11:30] <blazemore> varunendra: End result is the same, surely?
[11:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: heh, yep. sorry I screwed yah :P
[11:30] <Daughain> Dunno if it was you or me, so, no worries.
[11:30] <ikonia> ah, it's hosted in a PPA, not the core repo
[11:30] <histo> Daughain: does sudo mount -t davfs https://www.box.com/dav /home/daughin/Box.com   in a terminal work?
[11:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: but in the end it ends up causing issue down the line.
[11:31] <Daughain> Now, how should I go about fixing this?
[11:31] <varunendra> blazemore, in this case the end result will be same, but it is just a bad habit.
[11:31] <blazemore> !info handbrake
[11:31] <caodepalha> my ubuntu is running very slow can anyone help
[11:31] <blazemore> deepu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/107915/how-do-i-download-and-install-handbrake
[11:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: sudo nano /etc/fstab && paste the contents back into it.
[11:31] <ikonia> https.....the certificates will probably block that unless they are valid
[11:31] <histo> caodepalha: check top to see what's sucking up everything.
[11:31] <Daughain> histo, Let me fix my missing fstab first, please.
[11:31] <ikonia> Daughain: have you actually looked at that link
[11:32] <histo> Daughain: click download as text from here http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816438/
[11:32] <caodepalha> where is top? first timer
[11:32] <ikonia> Daughain: it requires username/password
[11:32] <histo> caodepalha: open a terminal and type top
[11:32] <blazemore> ikonia: He followed a guide to set up dav credentials
[11:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: yes, and it will ask for password in terminal upon mount.
[11:32] <ikonia> you can't put it in the fstab like that
[11:32] <histo> caodepalha: or open system monitor from Dash
[11:32] <Daughain> ikonia, Let me fix my fstab first please. ANd yes, I own a box account.
[11:32] <Daughain> Had it fotr a year now.
[11:32] <blazemore> caodepalha: You don't have to do that in a terminal, there's a graphical utility similar to Task Manager on Windows - I believe it's called something like "System Monitor"
[11:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> /bin/sh: 1: echo ikonia: I got mine working 100%, following the guide http://xmodulo.com/2013/02/how-to-mount-box-com-cloud-storage-on-linux.html here, and my fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816523/ works fine: not found
[11:33] <caodepalha> ok did it anyway. terminal opened
[11:33] <caodepalha> now what can i do?
[11:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: I got mine working 100%, following the guide http://xmodulo.com/2013/02/how-to-mount-box-com-cloud-storage-on-linux.html here, and my fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816524/ works fine
[11:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> misplaced " XD
[11:34] <cindylow_> hi
[11:34] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: he doesn't even have an fstab
[11:34] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: and he's typing a malformed command anyhoot
[11:34] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: yes, look "noauto"
[11:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: he does now. like I said.
[11:35] <Daughain> Ummmmmm......... ntzrmtthihu777 , it just  mounted the box acct fine...??
[11:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: yes, then after that I run mount .box.com and it asked for my credentials, and after I set up secrets it did not even ask for that.
[11:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: what did you do? full mount or short mount? exact command. copy paste.
[11:35] <caodepalha> gtk gnash 47%
[11:35] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: yes, howeever putting that in the fstab and expecting it to automount won't work
[11:35] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: also did anyone check that he has davfs2 installed?
[11:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: were not expecting it.
[11:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: time and time again, he has it.
[11:36] <Daughain> I copied my fstab, and used the basic mount ~/Box.com
[11:36] <blazemore> Daughain: Have you fixed your /etc/fstab now?
[11:36] <caodepalha> gtk gnash 47%. what can i do?
[11:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: "mount ~/Box.com", letter for letter?
[11:36] <Daughain> I seem to have everything fixed now.
[11:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: weird. why it did not work before is beyond me. :/
[11:36] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777,  Yes, thats all I did.
[11:36] <blazemore> Daughain: I imagine there was just something screwy in your fstab
[11:37] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: what is controlling the authentication of this?
[11:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: possiblly, lol. I've had rubyscripts screw up for one multibyte character.
[11:37] <Daughain> blazemore, Apparently. I guess losing the whole file helped me in this case.
[11:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: was this with or without the ~/.davfs2/secrets file setup?
[11:37] <Hexagonite> Is anyone using the Caffeine applet here?
[11:38] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Not sure at this moment. Need time to loo9k
[11:38] <caodepalha> gtk gnash 47%. what can i do?
[11:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: no need to look. when you ran mount did it ask for your credentials or not?
[11:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | caodepalha
[11:38] <Daughain> No, it didnt. But, I dont remember commenting in the line in the /secrets file
[11:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: hm.
[11:39] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, In fdact, it is still commented out. Looking at it now.
[11:39] <varunendra> caodepalha, what is the problem? Is gnash stuck?
[11:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: perhaps it "remmebers" you from using the nautilus mount you did?
[11:39] <histo> caodepalha: are you playing some flash video right now?
[11:39] <Daughain> Could be.
[11:40] <Daughain> And, iuts mounted as a device for some reason.
[11:40] <varunendra> histo, I think "gtk" is the standalone gui for gnash ??
[11:40] <caodepalha> no. i'm just on firefox and everything else is closed
[11:40] <histo> varunendra: what?
[11:40] <histo> caodepalha: does the page you are viewing in firefox have flash?
[11:41] <histo> caodepalha: who owns the gnash pid?
[11:41] <varunendra> histo, I thought "gtk-gnash" is the standalond gui player for swf.
[11:41] <Daughain> Thanks to everyone for your help.
[11:41] <histo> caodepalha: if it's owned by your user kill it
[11:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: no prob, and thanks for letting me get a new cloud storage :P
[11:42] <caodepalha> closed all windows now. i'm just on this irc room. checking if gtk gnash is owned by my user
[11:43] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Now, how do I make sure it automounts after a reboot?
[11:43] <histo> Daughain: it will if it's in fstab
[11:43] <histo> Daughain: well assuming the network is up when it tries
[11:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: it wont' with the noauto parameter.
[11:43] <Daughain> histo, So, after a reboot, I wont have to manually mount it agaion?
[11:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: remove noauto, and it should be fine.
[11:44] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Thnaks again. =)
[11:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: again, the noauto will not cause it to :P
[11:44] <histo> Daughain: assuming you set it up without noauto it will mount on boot
[11:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> Daughain: and I'm not sure at what point you network is setup and the share is mounted, so if its the wrong order it won't work :P
[11:44] <vnc786> hello all
[11:44] <vnc786> i have broken my ubuntu 12.04 http://tinyurl.com/mt74o4m now i am trying to reinstalling  i have choosen "Something Else" option
[11:44] <vnc786> i just want to know i have assigned mount point(i got previous mount point with e2label) keeping Format option uncheck will that erased my home data or it will previous
[11:45] <vnc786> :s/previous/preserve
[11:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> vnc786: I find *not* using the /home partition during install, and then adding it to fstab, to be safest.
[11:45] <Daughain> sWell, I removed the noauto param, guess I just need to reboot and find out.
[11:45] <histo> vnc786: if you don't format it will not erase it.
[11:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: I did that once, but it still overwrote my ~
[11:46] <varunendra> vnc786, did you create a separate /home partition?
[11:47] <vnc786> varunendra: yes
[11:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> varunendra: yep.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: easier tio restore data from backup and do a clean install from scratch
[11:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> I think since I used the same username it overwrote my folder's contents.
[11:47] <varunendra> vnc786, then just install only choosing / like ntzrmtthihu777 mentioned. Don't mention /home in the installation.
[11:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: I would not say easier, but def better :P
[11:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: but I lack the resources to do so, so I'm stuck :P
[11:48] <varunendra> vnc786, you can later add the previous /home partition once the installation is finished.
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: i suggest you look into a backup solution
[11:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: broke, no way atm to do so. most of my personal files are on my samba server, so they are relatively safe.
[11:52] <vnc786> and what it will do to other dir like etc,opt,etc if there are missing files then will it add those files because right now i have dialog box saying "Directories containing system files(/etc,/lib) that already exits will deleted
[11:52] <Daughain> ntzrmtthihu777, Everything  mounts perfectly now. Thanks.
[11:52] <varunendra> vnc786, yes they will be deleted.
[11:52] <Daughain> Need coffee now.,
[11:52] <ikonia> varunendra: if you are going to re-install, it will wipe your existing OS
[11:52] <ikonia> varunendra: take backups of what you need
[11:53] <varunendra> ikonia, it is vnc786 who is having problems :)
[11:53] <ikonia> oops, sorry
[11:53] <varunendra> np ;)
[11:54] <purezen> Hey guys..! Am running 12.10 64-bit.. updated.. on a 3rd gen i5 using integrated graphics..
[11:55] <purezen> .. and when I take a screenshot.. all I get is a blank black screen...
[11:55] <purezen> Anyone..?
[11:55] <ikonia> purezen: how are you taking a screen shot ?
[11:55] <vnc786> varunendra: i am with you but just wondering i am just leaving /dev/sda2(home) so will my partition order will be intact
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> purezen: how are you doing it?
[11:56] <purezen> ikonia, ActionParsnip : Hey..! I am just pressing the PrntScr button..
[11:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> purezen: try installing scrot and using that
[11:57] <purezen> Am using Unity Standard btw..
[11:57] <varunendra> vnc786, if you are not setting any mount points for /dev/sda2 during the installation, it will (and its order) will be intact.
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> purezen: try: sleep 10;  DISPLAY=:0.0 import -window root ~/Pictures/1stJul2013.jpg
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> purezen: you will need imagemagick installing
[11:57] <vnc786> varunendra: okay now hitting "Install Now" :)
[11:57] <ikonia> or use the print screen application
[11:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> vnc786: all you will have to do is edit your /etc/fstab file after the install is done, and it will mount your /home for you :P
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> purezen: once you run the command you'll have 10 seconds to setup the screen :)
[11:58] <varunendra> vnc786, your root (/) will get overwritten anyway (whether you choose to format or not).
[11:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> vnc786: part of the install process :P
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: if you set the partition to be used as /home but NOT formatted, it will add the fstab line for you
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> purezen  shutter is a nice tool for screenshots
[11:58] <purezen> ntzrmtthihu777: Thanks..! Shall try that..:-)
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> purezen: does that give an image?
[11:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: I did that *once* and it screwed me over.
[11:59] <purezen> ActionParsnip: On it..
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: probably a bad option when you set it up
[11:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: which is why we're currently advising a super safe way to do it :P
[11:59] <varunendra> ActionParsnip, I can confirm it deletes any existing files. It even explicitly warns the user before starting the installation.
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: i see, but yet there is no backup, but you want to be super safe.....
[12:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: what part of "broke" don't you get?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: depends how valuable your data is to you...
[12:00] <varunendra> oh, but I never tried with separate /home, so I may be missing something :P ActionParsnip
[12:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: no amount of personal value I place on said files is going to trump a $25/wk salary
[12:02] <KrizOne> hi everyone, how do i give everyone in the www-data group access to everything inside /var/www and all future content too?
[12:02] <zorael> Which package provides the feature that allows you to compare config file changes before deciding if you want to overwrite, backup or ignore them? Is it built into debconf or does it have to be installed?
[12:02] <zorael> as in, config file changes upon package upgrade
[12:03] <llutz> zorael: thats built-in in debconf
[12:03] <hmamouchi> hi
[12:04] <purezen> MonkeyDust: Oh.. Thanks..:-)
[12:04] <hmamouchi> Please Help me ;) Lubuntu 10.10 no Upgrade :S
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> !eolupgrade | hmamouchi
[12:05] <llutz> zorael: you specify your config-files in packagename.conffiles and debconf checks md5 on those file for changes on upgrades
[12:05] <zorael> llutz: Thanks.
[12:06] <hmamouchi> Thanks
[12:06] <hmamouchi> :D
[12:07] <zorael> llutz: right. For context, I have a package that seems to manually overwrite some config files in postinst, hence my wondering if this feature was provided by some other apt addon that I was simply missing.
[12:08] <purezen> ActionParsnip: Hey.. That command works..
[12:09] <purezen> ActionParsnip: But that doesn't  solve the problem with the default tool..
[12:10] <Gangsta> anybody here
[12:10] <Gangsta> hello
[12:11] <Gangsta> anybody here
[12:11] <Gangsta> where the fuck is ActionParsnip
[12:11] <FloodBot1> Gangsta: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:11] <Gangsta> everybody wake the fuck up yo
[12:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> I feel a floodbot action coming on XD
[12:14] <toto_> how to use arabic text in blender
[12:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> toto_: ibus daemon. install the arabic language pack and switch to it using ibus, you can type freely.
[12:19] <gpufreak> does anyone know if MHGH28-XTC is supported by ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS ?
[12:23] <blazemore> gpufreak: It sounds enterprise-y, you might be better served in #ubuntu-server
[12:24] <gpufreak> will do
[12:28] <coolbuddy> how to enable acpi_thermal http://goo.gl/wjXqv
[12:28] <Captain_Proton> Having a problem with remmina I think it use a bad key from a server. where does remmina keep server keys in 13.04? I thought it was seahorse but they are not there.
[12:28] <coolbuddy> how to enable acpi_thermal http://goo.gl/wjXqv ? """ sysctl hw """ gives me nothing
[12:32] <coolbuddy> how to enable acpi_thermal http://goo.gl/wjXqv ? """$ sysctl hw """ gives me nothing
[12:34] <vnc786> after reinstalling i always getting grub screen
[12:36] <bawank> test
[12:36] <willther> hi
[12:37] <cfhowlett> !details|vnc786
[12:37] <manish_> hi
[12:38] <cfhowlett> manish_, greetings
[12:38] <willther> i'm from Brazil, i wold help if someone needs.
[12:38] <cfhowlett> !br|willther,
[12:39] <willther> thanks
[12:40] <NSA_AGENT> how do you open a new server window in hexchat ?
[12:41] <histo> NSA_AGENT: and this has to do with ubuntu how?
[12:41] <NSA_AGENT> well im using hexchat on ubuntu
[12:41] <NSA_AGENT> :)
[12:41] <iceroot> NSA_AGENT: #hexchat or whatever there channel is
[12:42] <NSA_AGENT> ok
[12:42] <NSA_AGENT> sorry about that
[12:42] <cfhowlett> NSA_AGENT, no harm done.
[12:42] <SirNeo1> hello
[12:42] <cfhowlett> SirNeo1, greetings
[12:43] <SirNeo1> anyone can help me to set up a VPN on Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[12:43] <iceroot> !vpn | SirNeo1
[12:43] <SirNeo1> thanks
[12:43] <matematikaadit> I accidentically uninstall unity
[12:43] <iceroot> SirNeo1: if you have a detailed question, please feel free to ask
[12:43] <iceroot> matematikaadit: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:43] <blazemore> matematikaadit: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[12:44] <SirNeo1> for PPTP i don't neet to install other software on my windows to connect no?
[12:44] <blazemore> SirNeo1: nope :)
[12:44] <foo357_> Hello, I want to change the time daily cron is run (currently 6:25 am, to midnight). Do I only have to edit the crontab file, should I restart any daemon?
[12:44] <SirNeo1> for OpenVNP i need to install some software on the machine
[12:44] <SirNeo1> ok, thanks ;)
[12:44] <blazemore> SirNeo1: You're correct
[12:44] <iceroot> foo357_: only edit the file, no need to restart anything
[12:44] <foo357_> ok thanks iceroot
[12:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> I'm getting terrribly irritated at this .desktop file Xd
[12:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone here use Redcar IDE/text editor? do you have a launcher file for it? could you please share, as this is kicking my tuchus XD
[12:48] <suore> Hello.  [x11grab @ 0x1433f20] Couldn't parse video size. What it mean?
[12:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> suore: are you trying to recordscreen with a script?
[12:49] <suore> ntzrmtthihu777, yes
[12:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> suore: would you like my script? (my as in I possess it, I did not write it) it works wonderfully.
[12:49] <suore> huhz okie dokie
[12:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> suore: instructions here: http://is.gd/dUyXdU
[12:50] <suore> http://pastebin.com/FDfgh6mN here is my script
[12:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> suore: oh, are you trying a livestream?
[12:51] <suore> yes
[12:51] <suore> idk what is wrong
[12:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> sorry, I don't know a thing about that, lol. I use the script i linked to record for youtube, not live stuffs :P
[12:52] <suore> this script i found at google,
[12:52] <suore> aa ok ok
[12:53] <raub> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding defined eth0 and eth1 but http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1631796 seems to say not to. Who should I trust?
[12:53] <matematikaadit> it's like tf to forever to do apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop. although it's just 6mb to download.
[12:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: ubuntu-desktop is merely a metapackage. it points to a host of other packages.
[12:54] <matematikaadit> maybe my apt-source is near enough.
[12:54] <matematikaadit> s/is/is not
[12:56] <matematikaadit> is there a way to change apt source via cli?
[12:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: not sure. google for ubuntu apt mirrors, may help
[12:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: what could give you more info is apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop, this will show you *all* packages that are being installed., its quite alot :/
[12:57] <SirNeo1> pty "pptp YOUR_VPN_GATEWAY --nolaunchpppd"
[12:58] <SirNeo1> what should i type instean this? domainname? ip?
[12:59] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: well, i accidentically uninstall unity. I just have access to terminal via ctrl-alt-1.
[12:59] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: right now trying to reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[13:00] <llutz> SirNeo1: ip/hostname of your pptp-vpn-server/gateway
[13:01] <blazemore> matematikaadit: however long it takes, reinstalling the ubuntu-desktop package WILL work
[13:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: ouch
[13:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: you can open more than one session with ctr+alt+f{1..6} :P
[13:03] <shvelo> Hi, I've just bought Asus Q200E, which has a touchscreen. I'm interested if desktop Ubuntu has good touchscreen support. Will it just move the mouse?
[13:03] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: yes, i know, i use irssi in ctrl+alt+f2.
[13:03] <shvelo> cursor*
[13:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: you may also want to look into the program screen :P
[13:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> shvelo: depends on the touchscreen.
[13:04] <blazemore> shvelo: If it doesn't have good touchscreen support then idk what they've been doing for the last few releases
[13:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: I've had hell using mine, lol
[13:04] <cfhowlett> !touch|shvelo,
[13:05] <shvelo> -_-
[13:05] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: ahh... yes, i've installed tmux (screen alternatives) before.
[13:05] <matematikaadit> why i forget it.
[13:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> cfhowlett: not for a phone, did you even read what s/he said?
[13:05] <shvelo> cfhowlett, it's for tablets
[13:05] <funky> is there php channel that dont require invite?
[13:06] <Pici> funky: ##php.  You need to register/identify to join.
[13:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> shvelo: you may want to look into djin and grail
[13:06] <Pici> !register | funky
[13:06] <RBRKSRE> hi
[13:07] <bawank> hi
[13:07] <cfhowlett> shvelo, mulitple screens, missed the details.  sorry
[13:07] <shvelo> ntzrmtthihu777, thanks!
[13:08] <RBRKSRE> What's the simplest script to decompress every file in a folder?
[13:08] <RBRKSRE> *every archive
[13:08] <bawank> how do i change setp up for alt-tab effect on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[13:08] <bawank> *set up
[13:08] <zamn> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade my system and I keep getting versioning errors. Could someone take a look? http://pastebin.com/jePEZYCJ thanks
[13:08] <suore> ntzrmtthihu777, this script suck 1. Sound is asymetric 2. when recording games is like watcjhing video with 2fps....
[13:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> suore: good enough for me, lol. just trying to help man :P
[13:09] <shvelo> RBRKSRE, more details?
[13:10] <zamn> it seems libldap-2.4.2 wont upgrade and I have no clue why -_- I keep getting errors saying that it breaks libldap-2.4-2:i386
[13:10] <suore> oki oki
[13:10] <suore> after  redcord have 5gb ...
[13:10] <suore> wow
[13:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> RBRKSRE: <unzip program> *.<zip type>
[13:10] <RBRKSRE> i have a folder with 1.7z, 2.7z, ... n.7z   . How can I compress everything?
[13:10] <CalvinKlein> Hey guys, I need help on setting up a fake webcam in Ubuntu.
[13:10] <CalvinKlein> I use HP-WEBCAM 101.
[13:10] <CalvinKlein> I need HP-WEBCAM 101 to display an Animated GIF file.
[13:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> RBRKSRE: 7z x '*.7z'
[13:10] <CalvinKlein> any idea how can I do it?
[13:11] <CalvinKlein> I've used webcam-studio but no luck.
[13:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> RBRKSRE: or it may be double quotes, forget.
[13:11] <RBRKSRE> ntzrmtthihu777, thank you.
[13:11] <CalvinKlein> anybody here who can help in this particular situation?
[13:11] <RBRKSRE> ntzrmtthihu777, can it work with other programs as well?
[13:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> RBRKSRE: the context may be different, but in general yes. unzip does not need the x, it all depends on the program.
[13:12] <bawank> hi everyone,how do i change setp up for alt-tab effect on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[13:12] <RBRKSRE> ntzrmtthihu777, cool! i didn't know you could do that
[13:13] <CalvinKlein> RBRKSRE, ntzrmtthihu777, ActionParsnip, Math022, X-tonic, histo, bawank, lulz0r, Math-, I use HP-WEBCAM 101, and I want HP-WEBCAM to display an animated GIF file, like I want it to display a source like in ManyCam, since I use Linux, ManyCam doesn't run here, but I want my webcam to display an image instead.
[13:13] <RBRKSRE> ntzrmtthihu777, it worked the way you said.
[13:13] <CalvinKlein> how can I do that?
[13:13] <RBRKSRE> CalvinKlein, did you try to google it?
[13:13] <zephyr> I'm having an issue with date not returning a correct value in my bash script.
[13:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> RBRKSRE: glad to be of help
[13:14] <CalvinKlein> does anybody have any experiences with v4l2loopback? I heard it can display images on my webcam?
[13:14] <Pici> !Google | RBRKSRE
[13:14] <Pici> CalvinKlein: Don't hilight people like that.
[13:14] <CalvinKlein> Pici, can you help me?
[13:14] <CalvinKlein> I've been asking for help on this since months.
[13:14] <zephyr> NOW=$(date +"%Y-%m-%d-%H%S")    <--- that returns the correct date, but the time is always incorrect.  Did I miss something?
[13:14] <CalvinKlein> and nobody has solved this yet.
[13:14] <gordonjcp> CalvinKlein: how would you display images *on a webcam*?
[13:14] <gordonjcp> it's a camera
[13:14] <gordonjcp> it captures images
[13:14] <Pici> CalvinKlein: No, but just be patient and ask your question with as much info as possible.  Mass hilighting people like that is going to get you kicked.
[13:14] <CalvinKlein> gordonjcp, you know manycam right?
[13:14] <gordonjcp> CalvinKlein: no
[13:14] <CalvinKlein> lol.
[13:14] <gordonjcp> what's manycam?
[13:15] <SirNeo1> YOUR_DOMAIN_OR_SERVER_NAME\\YOUR_VPN_LOGIN * YOUR_VPN_PASSWORD *
[13:15] <SirNeo1> can i have more of this?
[13:15] <CalvinKlein> in manycam, you can display images on your webcam
[13:15] <CalvinKlein> like a video source.
[13:15] <SirNeo1> for me one user, for my mom an user etch?
[13:15] <CalvinKlein> not a webcam, but a video source.
[13:15] <gordonjcp> CalvinKlein: how can a webcam display images?  It's a camera
[13:15] <histo> CalvinKlein: webcamstudio ???
[13:15] <CalvinKlein> histo, I tried it out.
[13:15] <Pici> SirNeo1: Do you have a vpn to connect to?
[13:15] <CalvinKlein> but it fails to do so.
[13:15] <jdelgado> CalvinKlein: Are you asking how overlay an image on a webcam?
[13:15] <SirNeo1> i'm setting it up now
[13:15] <zephyr> gordonjcp: he means that it outputs a different video stream than what the camera is recording.  To software accessing the camera, it will feed it a different image.
[13:15] <histo> CalvinKlein: http://superuser.com/questions/608521/manycam-like-software-for-linux
[13:16] <SirNeo1> that is the chap-secrets file
[13:16] <CalvinKlein> histo, i've seen that.
[13:16] <histo> CalvinKlein: webcamstudio should be in the repo
[13:16] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: i think i know why it takes forever to reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[13:16] <CalvinKlein> histo, I have it installed.
[13:16] <zamn> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade my system and I keep getting versioning errors. Could someone take a look? http://pastebin.com/jePEZYCJ thanks
[13:16] <zephyr> gordonjcp: it's used, for example, in video chat rooms.  When someone views your webcam, you can have it show a recorded video or still images instead of a live iimage.
[13:16] <CalvinKlein> yes, zephyr.
[13:16] <CalvinKlein> you're right.
[13:16] <histo> CalvinKlein: good then use it
[13:16] <zephyr> CalvinKlein: hope I clarified that a little better for you.
[13:17] <CalvinKlein> Thanks zephyr!
[13:17] <CalvinKlein> histo, it doesn't work.
[13:17] <histo> CalvinKlein: then file bug
[13:17] <Pici> !doesntwork
[13:17] <CalvinKlein> I tried to show a image, but it doesn't show up in sources.
[13:17] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: when i try to wget the packages, it respond with connection closed
[13:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> zamn: I bet you have too many ppas that are conflicting with each other.
[13:17] <CalvinKlein> source layer= HP-WEBCAM 101, (I want to display a image on this)
[13:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: how are you connected to the internet, wireless? wired?
[13:17] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: modem.
[13:18] <zephyr> haha
[13:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> can you ping the google dns? 8.8.8.8?
[13:18] <Pici> !who
[13:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: or wait, you're using the machine in question huh?
[13:18] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: yes,
[13:18] <CalvinKlein> zephyr, any idea how can I do this?
[13:19] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: maybe it's the source that caused the problem
[13:19] <zephyr> CalvinKlein: No.  I've never needed it in linux.
[13:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: I'll tell you exactly why its taking forever. what you don't get is basically you are reinstalling *all* non-core ubuntu programs.
[13:19] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: s/source/apt-source/ or whatever its name
[13:19] <CalvinKlein> histo: ?
[13:19] <zamn> ntzrmtthihu777: so you're saying i should look at sources.list?
[13:20] <CalvinKlein> guys.
[13:20] <CalvinKlein> I want to add another video-source in linux.
[13:20] <CalvinKlein> like ManyCam adds up MANYCAM-WEBCAM
[13:20] <CalvinKlein> which shows images.
[13:20] <CalvinKlein> can I do that in linux?
[13:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: open another tty, do apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop | grep Depends, and realize you are reinstalling *all* of these packages. of course its going to take forever.
[13:20] <CalvinKlein> zephyr, I want to add another video source in linux.
[13:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> zamn: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, actually.
[13:20] <CalvinKlein> e.g: MANYCAM-WEBCAM
[13:21] <zamn> ntzrmtthihu777: there is nothing in that directory
[13:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> zamn: really?
[13:21] <histo> !repeat | CalvinKlein
[13:21] <zamn> yes, really ntzrmtthihu777
[13:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> zamn: ok, then have you installed alot of packages via *.deb files?
[13:21] <zephyr> CalvinKlein: you can do ANYTHING in Linux.  It just depends on your knowledge and patience.
[13:21] <zamn> nope
[13:22] <zamn> ntzrmtthihu777: its just a default ubuntu server installation. All i've done since i installed it was apt-get update/upgrade
[13:23] <kohvihoor> zamn: it seems it's trying to upgrade to an older version
[13:23] <zephyr> Anyone know a workaround for Netflix?  VirtualBox a viable option?
[13:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> zamn: well I'll be a monkeys uncle. sorry, but I have not your answer. you could try apt-get purging the packages in question. I assume you've tried the obvious apt-get -f install?
[13:23] <shvelo> What do you people think about disabling Apport . I always disable it after installing Ubuntu because it nags me all the time in the least user-friendly way
[13:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> zephyr: actually, there is a ppa that does it for you :P
[13:23] <zamn> yes ntzrmtthihu777. I tried running a whole slew of commands which cleans everything, purges things, etc
[13:23] <kohvihoor> zamn: can you maybe remove libldap, upgrade stuff and reinstall it after that?
[13:23] <zephyr> ntzrmtthihu777: Oh, really?
[13:24] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: actually i just need to get 2.202kb of packages. If only i could show apt-get install --print-uris...
[13:24] <matematikaadit> output
[13:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> zephyr: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-use-netflix-in-ubuntu-through.html
[13:24] <zamn> kohvihoor: well it seems that ab unch of other packages that depend on this would fail so apt doesnt want me to
[13:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: all I can tell you is to be patient, or use this as an opportunity to swap to a lighter weight de :P
[13:25] <kohvihoor> zamn: from what to where are you upgrading? from one ubuntu version to another or just a regular upgrade?
[13:25] <zamn> just a regular upgrade kohvihoor
[13:25] <zamn> kohvihoor: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:26] <Pici> zamn: Do you have precice-proposed enabled?
[13:26] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: do i need to change my source.list?
[13:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: as I've stated, you are *reinstalling* *everything* listed in "apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop | grep Depends". its *going* to take *a* *long* *time*. patience bro. and source.list does not change the server you pull from, I think.
[13:28] <zamn> Pici: enabled it just no
[13:28] <zamn> w
[13:28] <warfaren> dare i buy the MSI Z87-G45 motherboard that has a Killer NIC E2205 and expect it to work with ubuntu?
[13:28] <warfaren> googled and found nothing at all
[13:28] <cfhowlett> !hardware|warefaren
[13:29] <warfaren> it's new stuff.. socket 1150 (haswell i believe?)
[13:29] <warfaren> k
[13:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> is CalvinKlein still going on? or has he got a solution?
[13:29] <zamn> Pici: but not helping me much :p
[13:29] <Asad2005> When i have a power down and upon power restore my media drive restarts a little later then my PC. How  do i set up NFS mount on fstab to start after say 5 minutes elapsed?
[13:30] <Pici> zamn: I didn't ask you to enable it. I just asked if it was enabled.
[13:30] <zamn> oh
[13:30] <zamn> :x
[13:30] <warfaren> cfhowlett: they're not listing Killer under the wired network interfaces list
[13:30] <cfhowlett> warfaren, in the absence of any other guidance, I'd say it's a roll of the dice.  The latest/greatest/shiny stuff is like that.
[13:30] <warfaren> uhuh
[13:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> Asad2005: you can pass it noauto and add the mount command to a startup script :D
[13:32] <Asad2005> ntzrmtthihu777: Can you please shed somelight? adding a noauto is ok but how to do it via a script
[13:32] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: ah, sorry. I'll be patience. it's just that this whole thing that get my nerves.
[13:32] <Pici> zamn: Also, are you aware that you are trying to install both the amd64 and the i386 versions of that package?  Are you sure that you need the i386 version?
[13:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> zamn: and if you do use getlibs to do it :P
[13:33] <aiten_44> Asad2005, noauto wouldn't be part of the script you would have to write you would have to put that in fstab I believe
[13:33] <kohvihoor> zamn: can you pastebin what: apt-cache policy libldap-2.4.2 gives you
[13:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Asad2005: yes, noauto goes in fstab.
[13:33] <zamn> kohvihoor: http://pastebin.com/7jwR3suF
[13:33] <coops> anyone here know networking configuration on 12.10 server inside VirtualBox?
[13:33] <zamn> Pici: I'm not specifying any version to install. I'm just upgrading packages
[13:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> Asad2005: like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816763/
[13:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> ntzrmtthihu777: then add "mount /path/to/mountpoint" to a startup script
[13:34] <aiten_44> coops: what are you looking to do?
[13:34] <warfaren> cfhowlett: what about the other parts, CPU being haswell, could it be a problem? or are CPUs abstract enough for the OS not to run into such issues?
[13:35] <TrD> how to catch a Video stream URL under Ubuntu please
[13:35] <TrD> i want to play the video in a standalone player
[13:36] <coops> aiten_44: thx. i am trying to get a basic setup to work wih gitian-builder, but i think the 12.10 image starts w. no external networking config, just terminal login (whereas desktop image seems to work with its own NAT 'out of the box')
[13:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> tv-maxe may be what you want
[13:36] <cfhowlett> warfaren, I can't speak sensibly on that ... I only install on OEM systems.
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> TrD  minitube
[13:36] <warfaren> cfhowlett: ok thanks
[13:36] <Asad2005> ntzrmtthihu777: Thanks i know about noauto, I wanted some info on the script part, I dont think cron job is relavent here?
[13:36] <TrD> ntzrmtthihu777:  is a player i want to retrieve link to add it to the player
[13:36] <TrD> i wana try that MonkeyDust
[13:37] <TrD> ty :)
[13:37] <coops> aiten_44: trying to get to ssh login from host machine to guest OS
[13:37] <aiten_44> coops: I'm not real sure what gitian-builder is but if you want to use nat you should be able to shut down your virtual image and then click settings and there should be a tab labeled networking where you can specify if you want nat or say a bridge
[13:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> Asad2005: edit your startup applications (how you do so depends on your *ubuntu version)
[13:39] <coops> aiten_44: ok. i set it up same way (that way) as for Desktop, but i'm going to double-check everything. at this point, i know openssh-server is running on the server, but it never logs any attempt to login, while the client on the host gets disconnected after a timeout (the port forwarding to the guest is working on the host)
[13:39] <aiten_44> Asad2005: you could use a cron job on restart that calls a script which waits for 5 minutes then mounts the device you want mounted
[13:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> TrD: ah crap, you were in here earlier weren't you, asking about p2p
[13:40] <aiten_44> coops: can you ping your image from another computer on your network?
[13:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> aiten_44: thanks, I know next to nothing about cron atm XD
[13:40] <Pici> zamn: I'm looking at one of my 12.04 systems here, it looks like (at least in us.archive.ubuntu.com) that the i386 and amd64 binaries of libldap-2.4-2 have different versions.
[13:40] <TrD> yeah ntzrmtthihu777
[13:40] <Asad2005> aiten_44: but how do you mean to issue mount -a every 5 minutes?
[13:40] <coops> gitian-builder is a project for multiple developers to do identical builds on various OSes and then sign the same identical build (adding confidence)
[13:41] <pfifo> ive tried a few other mirrors, but cant seem to work around the 404 for this url http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.233.orig.tar.gz any ideas for a different workaround
[13:41] <pfifo> Pici, btw, the topic points to the wrong release notes
[13:41] <Pici> pfifo: I'll take a look
[13:42] <aiten_44> Asad2005 depending on what cron version you are using some you can issue @reboot or some there is a folder in /etc called something like cron.reboot which you can add a script to
[13:42] <coops> aiten_44: not even trying to support that - was only trying to map a host port (arbitrary) to the ssh port of the guest (22). had it working with the desktop image...
[13:42] <NSA_AGENT> anyone know any good rss feed/news argeigtors you can install from the terminal in linux ?
[13:42] <coops> idea is the image is only used inside the host to build something, nothing from outside the host should be hitting it
[13:42] <Pici> zamn: Actually, sorry, I misread.  You may want to do an apt-get update first and then check the outputs of apt-cache policy libldap-2.4-2
[13:44] <aiten_44> coops:  Alright so you don't want any external networking outside the image will it let you ssh localhost? and have you checked what the firewall rules look like might be something dumb set up that you didn't realize was there
[13:45] <Pici> pfifo: thanks, updated.
[13:45] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:45] <pfifo> Pici, now I feel obligated to actually read them.
[13:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone here a *.desktop wizard? I'm having hell getting one to work for redcar :/
[13:48] <Matt__> Hey folks. I got the following problem: installed ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop. no network adapter recognized... found out that i need broadcom fireware. installed fwcutter. next i want to install firmware-b43-installer... problem is, that installation tells me that it wants to download new firmware.  connection to server, of course fails, because I got no working network adapter. I downloaded the requested file on another pc but dunno 
[13:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> oh my dear god, I got it 0_0
[13:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: you may just want to unstall bcmwl-kernel-source
[13:49] <aiten_44> Matt_: I think the kernel supports those cards
[13:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: or wait, 13.04?
[13:50] <blazemore> That bloody package... I see firmware-b43-installer mentioned in here at least once a day
[13:50] <Matt__> :D
[13:50] <Matt__> i already read a lot about it
[13:50] <Matt__> but still got problems solving it
[13:51] <blazemore> I'm not having a go at you, don't get me wrong :)
[13:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: care to give me the output of lspci -nn | grep -i network?
[13:51]  * cfhowlett thinks he must be VERY lucky.  He installs all the needed Broadcom stuff directly from the ubuntu ISO
[13:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> cfhowlett: said package is on the iso?
[13:52] <cfhowlett> ntzrmtthihu777, depends on the specific broadcom chipset ...
[13:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> cfhowlett: true that.
[13:52] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  output lists the broadcom network controler
[13:52] <cfhowlett> ntzrmtthihu777, broadcom 43XX is on the iso ...
[13:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: yes, gimme! :P
[13:52] <cfhowlett> ntzrmtthihu777, 2 minutes at the terminal, no wifi required ... http://turbolinux.org/2011/07/ubuntu-broadcom-bcm43xx-chipset-pci/
[13:53] <coops> aiten_44: will try the internal ssh, good idea. i did not configure any firewall on the image, but maybe it has something pre-installed.
[13:53] <cfhowlett> ntzrmtthihu777, I used the No Internet STA option
[13:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> never heard of it, lol.
[13:54] <pfifo> ive tried a few other mirrors, but cant seem to work around the 404 for this url http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.233.orig.tar.gz any ideas for a different workaround
[13:54] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  can't. typing on my win lap right now
[13:54] <aiten_44> coops: If that doesn't work check the sshd config file you wouldn't happen to be trying to login as root are you?
[13:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: what are you trying to do?
[13:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: install flashplugin?
[13:54] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777, install shockwave flash
[13:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: what command are you using?
[13:54] <blazemore> pfifo: did you try "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer" ?
[13:55] <coops> aiten_44: not trying to log in as root ;)
[13:55] <aiten_44> coops: I didn't think so but it was worth asking just in case
[13:55] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777, actually ive tried all of them, everything I know that triggers its install... after all that failed, ive been working with just 'flashplugin-installer'
[13:56] <kaji331> quit()
[13:56] <kaji331> quit
[13:56] <kaji331> \quit
[13:56] <blazemore> he got it in the end
[13:56] <ANN-TechCoder> Guys, need help finding Drivers for BroadCom Wireless card
[13:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer | tee apt.log, and pastebin apt.log
[13:56] <blazemore> Sorry ANN-TechCoder but you just made my day :)
[13:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> blazemore: bwhahahahahah XD
[13:57] <blazemore> Vote for renaming #ubuntu to #broadcom ?
[13:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> aye!
[13:57] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777, want me to uninstall or purge first?
[13:57] <coops> aiten_44: ssh ubuntu@localhost works, after warning the first time about unknown host localhost
[13:57] <coops> so ssh server up and running
[13:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: try it without, then with, purging :P
[13:57] <Matt__> to get things clear: I want to install firmware-b43-installer, but this requires another driver update, which i downloaded. but "make" gives me "no rule to create "wl_apsta/buildflags.mk"" any idea?
[13:57] <blazemore> sorry ANN-TechCoder not your fault, but I mentioned earlier how every day I see people with broadcom issues
[13:57] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777, ok
[13:58] <aiten_44> coops: well thats good did you check to see if there is a firewall in place by default?
[13:58] <blazemore> Matt__: Do you have to run ./configure first?
[13:58] <coops> aiten_44: ifconfig -a shows only eth1 and lo configured, no IP addr other than 127.0.0.1
[13:58] <ANN-TechCoder> It's an old Notebook. 13.04 has everything working fine but Wireless card
[13:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: and I *neeed* apt.log's output. details are your friend here, and that is a big detail.
[13:58] <ANN-TechCoder> What would be the best way of finding drivers for it?
[13:58] <coops> i think prob more basic than firewall
[13:58] <Matt__> ./configure -> no file found
[13:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> ANN-TechCoder: lspci -nn | grep Broadcom, give the results here.
[13:59] <blazemore> ANN-TechCoder: Can you make that "grep -i broadcom" instead of just "grep Broadcom" ?
[13:59] <coops> aiten_44: the desktop image came up with a 10.x.x.x address which it should if NAT running, no?
[13:59] <coops> this server image has nothing
[13:59] <blazemore> coops: Try #ubuntu-server for support with Ubuntu Server
[14:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: I really doubt you need to compile from source. would you kindly give me the info I asked for and I can probly get you going. I've done several broadcoms the hard way for myself and others, and I've gotten fairly good at it :P
[14:00] <aiten_44> coops: Yes the 10.x.x.x is correct if thats what you have it set as.  I'm starting to think that the settings are messed up that its not getting a ip automatically like it should
[14:00] <aiten_44> can you force an ip to eth1?
[14:01] <m_tadeu> is this the right place to ask questions about packaging?
[14:01] <blazemore> m_tadeu: Probably, go ahead
[14:01] <holstein> m_tadeu: if its relevant to the topic, just ask
[14:01] <mumpitzel> coops: when you are trying to log in via ssh to the guest VM, how is your virtualbox network settings for this VM?
[14:02] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 ... [14e4:
[14:02] <coops> aiten_44: to clarify, trying to use a new server image, vs originally tried desktop image. trying to figure out as quick as possible how to get server to behave like that desktop image
[14:02] <mumpitzel> coops: you cannot log in if you use NAT
[14:02] <PashaPasta> coops: i.e did you config your VM to use NAT or a bridged adapter? You want a bridged adapter
[14:02] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: [14e4:4311]
[14:02] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777, http://fpaste.org/22105/37268733/
[14:03] <coops> mumpitzel: Adapter1 attached to NAT, cable connected is checked, port forwarding rule set up to map a port on my host to port 22 on the guest
[14:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: hm.
[14:03] <PashaPasta> coops: you need to set for a bridged adapter
[14:03] <Boomboom> Hello i have little problems with installing realtek audio hd drivers... have somebody done it before and can help me a bit?
[14:03] <m_tadeu> if an application has a custom lib dir (like /usr/lib/myapp) to store .so files that are specific to the app, how should I proceed?if nothing is done, ldd doesn't find the .so files...adding the path in /etc/ld.so.conf.d works but, seems wrong by yhe debian specs
[14:04] <NSA_AGENT> how can i see how much memory an application is currently using , in the terminal
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> NSA_AGENT  with htop
[14:04] <coops> PashaPasta: i will try this but the prior desktop image worked fine 'out of the box' with NAT configured. also following instructions from gitian-builder (which is not your problem, of course)
[14:04] <janisozaur> i have exceed on demand instance that i use to connect to a remote system and launch X applicatons, but i do not have ssh connection. how could i copy files between the two systems? already tried using xclip with base64, but the files transferred that way end up being broken...
[14:04] <NSA_AGENT> thanks
[14:04] <Peyam> NSA_AGENT: processes
[14:04] <Peyam> okej
[14:04] <PashaPasta> ps -aux, top, htop
[14:04] <aiten_44> coops: "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 up" try setting the ip address and see if that will give you an ip address you should be able to use nat
[14:05] <mumpitzel> coops: you can port forward any way you want: you need bridged to log in via ssh. VBox doesn't do a proper NAT
[14:05] <PashaPasta> virtualbox is el terrible
[14:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: do you have any sort of networking on this device?
[14:06] <mumpitzel> coops: where did you portforward anyways? where did you set up the port forwarding?
[14:06] <coops> mumpitzel: it will do it with my alternative image, but perhaps you are saying it's unreliable. I'm going to try your suggestion
[14:06] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: neither lan or wlan --> no
[14:06] <mumpitzel> coops: how did you set up the portforwarding? where?
[14:06] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: otherwise it would be quite simple I guess :D
[14:06] <Boomboom> Hello i have little problems with installing realtek audio hd drivers... have somebody done it before and can help me a bit?
[14:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: this is fine, but it makes things trickier :P
[14:07] <coops> mumpitzel: example command - VBoxManage modifyvm Gitian-lucid-i386 --natpf1 "guestssh,tcp,,2223,,22"
[14:07] <mumpitzel> thanks
[14:07] <ddssc> anyone knows a good alternative to remmina? it's been unusable for a year as per this bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/remmina/+bug/1002363) and hasn't been fixed
[14:07] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: i know... spent like all day on that shit
[14:07] <coops> that actually worked for a 12.10 desktop image, was able to ssh in (and may yet fall back to that… ;))
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> m_tadeu  ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[14:08] <m_tadeu> MonkeyDust: cool....thanx
[14:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: lsmod | grep wl, is this module loaded?
[14:08] <rypervenche> ddssc: I feel your pain. I still use it, but when it doesn't work I use vncviewer.
[14:08] <coops> note: when i refer to 'image' i mean a fresh download of a free image from virtualbox.org (i.e. 'out of the box')
[14:09] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  "1" written behind... guess that means loaded
[14:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: means 1 thing is using it, lol.
[14:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: I'm assuming your using the default network-manager?
[14:10] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777, im thinking about tricking this into using my local webserver to host the tarball (yes i have the tarball straight from adobe) and doing a reinstall, but this only helps me, and I suspect the guy who I was helping last night will hop back on later. This witchcraft wont work for him so I need a better solution.
[14:10] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  yes, which says "no network devices available"
[14:10] <ddssc> rypervenche: does it support shared dirs?
[14:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: sudo rmmod wl && sudo modprobe wl, check now.
[14:10] <Boomboom> someone have time to explain me a bit hwo to install from script  ? : P
[14:10] <rypervenche> ddssc: No idea. It's VNC so I wouldn't think so?
[14:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> Boomboom: usually when you
[14:11] <PashaPasta> Boomboom: give a specific example
[14:11] <Peyam> Boomboom: what script?
[14:11] <ddssc> rypervenche: right didn't even notice. I need a rdp client tho
[14:11] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  error: module is in use
[14:11] <Boomboom> Peyam:  HD audio realtek
[14:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> Boomboom: usually when you're installing something not from the repos its a matter of ./configure && make && sudo make install.
[14:11] <aiten_44> coops:  I have a meeting in a few minutes I have to go to I'll be back later if your still having problems good luck
[14:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: what prompted this?
[14:12] <Peyam> Boomboom: on ubuntu? what is wrong with pulseaudio?
[14:12] <Boomboom> strangely quite even when its put to the "maximum"
[14:12] <Boomboom> quiet *
[14:12] <blazemore> Boomboom: Install pavucontrol and use it. Check that the "PCM" slider is on full
[14:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> pavucontrol <3
[14:13] <aiten_44> boomboom: try adjusting with alsamixer in a terminal I found that I can turn my vol up louder that way instead of using the vol on the taskbar
[14:13] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  don't get it. theres nothing besides : Error : module wl is in use
[14:13] <Boomboom> i've put the slider to the max, still its missing about 20% loudness or something like that
[14:13] <lokmaan> howto install medibutnu on ubuntu 10.04.4
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> Boomboom  start from the beginning, what are you doing and what goes wrong... in one line
[14:13] <Boomboom> monkey can we talk private ? its just sliding fast in here
[14:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: ok. I suppose you have some sort of internet connection, as we are speaking right now :P
[14:13] <Boomboom> my eyes just go wild
[14:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> !eol | lokmaan
[14:13] <blazemore> While we're on the subject, does anyone know of a nice way to dynamically adjust the sample rate of Pulseaudio according to the maximum sample rate of the source file being played? Or should I just leave it on the maximum my DAC supports, and use speex 10 to just resample 44.1k to higher frequencies?
[14:14] <rypervenche> ddssc: Ah, what's wrong with rdesktop?
[14:14] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  yeah, this is my win-pc
[14:14] <blazemore> For example, if I'm playing a CD, it'd be nice to have it actually setting my DAC to 44.1k, whereas if I'm playing a 96k source file I don't want it downsampled
[14:14] <ddssc> rypervenche: it doesn't have a gui?
[14:14] <rypervenche> ddssc: Not that I know of.
[14:14] <Gnjurac> hi does anyone know how to applay size command while in terminal  --geometry=195x20+0+0
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> Boomboom  keep it in the channel, if you go pm and the person leaves, you have to explain it all over
[14:14] <Boomboom> k
[14:15] <blazemore> At the moment I have pulse set to 96k the entire time, and it just resamples 44.1k, but that's not ideal
[14:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: go to packages.ubuntu.com/<releasename>/
[14:15] <Pici> blazemore: You might want to ask that in #ubuntustudio as well, they'll likely have a better idea of how to do that. :)
[14:15] <blazemore> Thanks Pici
[14:15] <coops> aiten_44: thx
[14:16] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  go ahead ;)
[14:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> and pick up the debs for dkms, fakeroot, patch, and bcmwl-kernel-source, and install them all with the sudo dpkg -i *.deb command ( you'll need a usb stick or the like to transfer them over)
[14:16] <Boomboom> i was missing about 20-30% loudness so i wanted to repair it with realtek hd audio drivers (i assumed it might work) , i downloaded it and everything was nice, i compiled as the .pdf instruction said the configure script but shows kinda error
[14:17] <CalvinKlein> ntzrmtthihu777: I haven't got a solution yet, over 50,000 people face this problem of mine and NONE has managed to found a solution yet.
[14:17] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  i kinda already went through all of this ;)
[14:17] <CalvinKlein> so if you kindly help me, I shall share your solution to other people aswell.
[14:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: and they are installed?
[14:17] <foo357> Hello, I've got a ubuntu server where some process is stopping me from shutting down. How can I find out which process this is and how to shutdown?
[14:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> foo357: htop is good.
[14:18] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  then I executed modprobe wl.... and it went processing kind of forever
[14:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: have you rebooted since?
[14:18] <foo357> ntzrmtthihu777: unfortunately it's not available
[14:18] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: reboot to like 300120 mio years... aborted after a while
[14:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> foo357: you cannot install it?
[14:19] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  didn't seem to proceed
[14:19] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777, any other ideas? Maybe I should just search for a bug on LP and if not found create one?
[14:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: hmm. does your machine have a hardware wifi on/off switch? even a fn+fkey one?
[14:19] <CalvinKlein> ntzrmtthihu777?
[14:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: sounds like a plan?
[14:20] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  fn -> no. switch yes --> using has no effect
[14:20] <Peyam> Hi my ubuntu people
[14:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> s/?//
[14:20] <coops> mumpitzel: I am able to do "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" which reads package lists, etc, but it's already installed. is this completing without going out to the internet via my host. it would seem so. I ask b/c the Desktop image was configured in Vbox, with NAT, and I was able to ssh in from the host and also successfully install several packages with apt-get, which went out to the internet to get them...
[14:20] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: wlan light is constantly turned off
[14:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: so you've tried the on/off already :P
[14:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> or rather, off/on?
[14:20] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  guess what :P
[14:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: what?
[14:20] <Peyam> I wana give ubuntu a try BUT I 'm addicted to right click and see the applicationmenu like in XFCE. so is it possible in unity?
[14:20] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: as I said. no effect
[14:21] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777:  ;)
[14:21] <foo357> ntzrmtthihu777: ok I installed it. It says:  "Tasks 7, 3 thr; 1 running"
[14:21] <Pici> coops: It doesn't need to reach out to the internet if the package is already installed.
[14:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: rfkill unblock all (may need sudo)
[14:21] <NSA_AGENT> is http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com/  down for anyone else ?
[14:21] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: executed
[14:22] <coops> Pici: yah, it just tried ping (doh!) and it can't find anything. don't know how it would with no network interface besides 127.0.0.1 config'ed
[14:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> foo357: try finding whatever it was you used last and killing it with F9
[14:22] <Peyam> PashaPasta: I wana give ubuntu a try BUT I 'm addicted to right click and see the applicationmenu like in XFCE. so is it possible in unity?
[14:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> foo357: something with a large cpu usage/mem usage.
[14:22] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777, can you pastebin you sources.list for me, I think I solved it but need to add an entry for 'updates' (I see there is a entry for a newer package 11.2.202.291ubuntu0.12.04.1)
[14:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: you can have xfce in ubuntu, I use it right now :P
[14:23] <coops> looks like i'm going to have to install the desktop image again and do a side by side compare of config...
[14:23] <PashaPasta> Peyam: I hate unity almost as much as I hate winblows 8
[14:23] <Peyam> ntzrmtthihu777: yeah I use xubuntu now. but wana change
[14:23] <Peyam> PashaPasta: windows.. off to toilet.. gonna throw up
[14:23] <PashaPasta> Peyam: check out MATE...its an updated fork of gnome2
[14:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816873/
[14:24] <opalepatrick> is it possible to configure the sites-available directory location? I know I can point at the alternative location in httpd.conf but a2ensite will only work on the one located in /etc/apache2/
[14:24] <opalepatrick> apache^^
[14:24] <Peyam> PashaPasta: MATe = wanabeWindows
[14:24] <PashaPasta> pffft
[14:24] <PashaPasta> that's KDE
[14:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: not true in the least, but whatev.
[14:24] <Peyam> KDE = too configurateable...ewwww
[14:24] <lgl> Hi, I just installed Raring on the new Macbook Air 6,2
[14:24] <NSA_AGENT> is http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com/  down for anyone else ?
[14:25] <lgl> I have a few issues and also think I can help fix a few of them, with a little assistance
[14:25] <lgl> Is there a specific ubuntu/macbook channel perhaps?
[14:25] <Peyam> so is it possible to right click and se the applicationmenu?
[14:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: here, if you hate mate, gnome, and xfce, why not just ditch the de and run gui-less?
[14:25] <Peyam> in ubuntu?
[14:25] <suore> XFCE is best for ligh classical theme
[14:25] <lgl> NSA_AGENT: works over here
[14:26] <Peyam> ntzrmtthihu777: I like xfce very much! It is simple and elegent. but I have a good computer and why not challenge it before it is broken hahaha
[14:26] <Peyam> suore: yes. Greybird theme is the nicest one
[14:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: why waste? I've got a decent machine, but I want it to work hard, not look pretty pretty XD
[14:26] <suore> and good for gaming, programing, editing... for all :D
[14:27] <Peyam> ntzrmtthihu777: well I dunno. just want to try something new
[14:27] <arcanescu> im on ubuntu ketnel version 3.0.0-32 ... trying to run nm-applet i get Message: using fallback from indicator to GtkStatusIcon ..... and WARNING **: Failed to register as an agent: (32) No session found for uid 0
[14:27] <arcanescu> the nm just doesnt start.... any ideas what is causing then and how to get the nm to start?
[14:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: any change?
[14:28] <Peyam> PashaPasta: ntzrmtthihu777 so what dist should I try?
[14:28] <PashaPasta> Peyam: debian7 :)
[14:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: I'm quite happy with xubuntu, but the final choice rests with you :P
[14:29] <NSA_AGENT> lgl, thanks
[14:29] <Peyam> ntzrmtthihu777: I ve been doing xubuntu in 3 years
[14:29] <Peyam> it is boring now
[14:29] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: it skipped right away to the next input line... no changes. I'll try a reboot
[14:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: you asked my opinion, I gave it.
[14:29] <PashaPasta> Peyam: then run crunchbang or arch and set it up yourself ;)
[14:29] <lgl> I have issues with Fn key, sound driver and isight on the new Macbook Air 6,2
[14:30] <foo357> ntzrmtthihu777: I can't find anything that should stop me from shutting down.
[14:30] <Peyam> ntzrmtthihu777: and I couldn't be more thanksfull my freind
[14:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> :P
[14:30] <Peyam> PashaPasta: nääää. Arch , good choice if I want people to be chocked on my linux
[14:30] <lgl> I think I have the Fn key/media keys issue figured out (the keyboard has a new device ID) and I have an idea about the sound card but I need a few pointers
[14:31] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: it's again like stuck in the loading screen
[14:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm.
[14:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: which loading screen, exactly?
[14:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> ubuntu has quite alot that could be considered that :P
[14:32] <ddssc> anyone knows how to make shared folder in KRDC ?
[14:32] <Peyam> that ubuntu one. is it like dropbox?
[14:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: more or less. dropbox is pretty nice too :p
[14:32] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: the ubuntu loading screen, at startup
[14:33] <Peyam> yah.. is it free? that cloud thing
[14:33] <ANN-TechCoder> Google Drive now has 15 Gb free :) bettern then DB and SkyDrive
[14:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: ah, plymouth. press f1 I think, and it will show you background processes.
[14:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: you can see whats hitching it up
[14:33] <PashaPasta> ANN-TechCoder: ownCloud is better...if you've got a spare box around
[14:33] <Peyam> google makes me throw up.. they controll everything
[14:34] <ANN-TechCoder> owncloud is awesome! I use BytTorrent sync
[14:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: drobox and ubuntu one are both "freemium", they have a free service but they also have a better payed service.
[14:34] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777, it worked, added precise-updates, reinstalled, and everything went the way its supposed to.
[14:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: glad to hear it :D
[14:34] <Peyam> I get 53 GB from dropbox . my university gives it
[14:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: heh, I've got 11.9gb, stretched from 2.5 in various ways :p
[14:36] <ANN-TechCoder> I have 30 GB in Google Drive by sharing the folder from my seco9nd e-mail that i dont use :) love the ways you guys get free space !]
[14:36] <ANN-TechCoder> ^)
[14:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> ANN-TechCoder: wow, lol.
[14:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> I have a 332gb personal samba server I put together from free scraps :P
[14:38] <gordonjcp> ntzrmtthihu777: I have a ~700GB HP DL380 I got for free
[14:38] <ANN-TechCoder> yeah, that is good. It comes with some extra digits on your electricity bill though
[14:38] <gordonjcp> ntzrmtthihu777: my machines at home are named after aircraft manufacturers
[14:38] <gordonjcp> the DL380 is called Pilatus because it's such a noisy turboprop beast
[14:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> gordonjcp: I could care less about the name, lol.
[14:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> ANN-TechCoder: i don't pay the electricity *muahahaha*
[14:39] <gordonjcp> even when you issue poweroff to it, it just shuts down to "ground idle" and is still the loudest machine in the room
[14:40] <pfifo> I named mine pfifo-laptop, cause its my laptop... im changing it to something cool now, i want to be 1337 too
[14:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> gordonjcp: and you're bragging why? I never considered noisy to be a tech spec :P
[14:41] <Matt__> ntzrmtthihu777: got to continue another time. thanks for your help!
[14:41] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: ah, I know the problem now. I changed the repository source to http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/. and the 'apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop' finally completed in less than 1 minutes.
[14:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt__: sorry I couldn't set you straight.
[14:42] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: afterall, the problem seems in my previoius repo
[14:42] <ranjan> Hi all , is there anyone succesfully running ubuntu 13.04 on a HP DV4 Laptop.
[14:43] <matematikaadit> anyway, thanks everyone.
[14:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: np.
[14:44] <julian37> I'm using 12.04 and I have a custom script in /etc/init.d. when I run update-rc.d it appears to ignore the dependencies I set with 'Required-Start'. is it possible that dependency tracking is disabled and I need to set the priority manually?
[14:45] <pfifo> also, still getting a timeout error here if anyone can fix it, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cve
[14:46] <pfifo> julian37, if its an upstart script, it belongs in /etc/init/  if its not an upstart script then your using the old sysVinit method and shoul;d convert to an upstart script
[14:49] <gordonjcp> ntzrmtthihu777: well, it's not going to live in the house anyway, it's getting tucked away in a convenient high site
[14:49] <julian37> pfifo: the facilities it depends on are also in /etc/init.d and not in /etc/init. do I have to convert all of them to upstart scripts for dependencies to work, or can I make it work with sysVinit?
[14:49] <gordonjcp> ntzrmtthihu777: where my microwave links break out, so it can be a proxy server and RADIUS
[14:51] <NSA_AGENT> i just installed penguintv but when i try to launch it nothing happens. no error or anything. anyone have any idea whats up ?
[14:52] <holstein> !info penguintv
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> NSA_AGENT: try running it from a terminal, the output may be useful
[14:52] <NSA_AGENT> ActionParsnip,  i tried it just said command not recgonized lol
[14:52] <lmat> I'm looking for a server machine for small business. It will be mainly a file server, but also serve automated backup needs for employees, etc. What should I get?
[14:52] <pfifo> julian37, your deps are likely already upstart scripts and the old sysV scripts are there for compatibility... The old method doesnt use dependacies at all, you link your script to /etc/rcX.d (where X is the runlevel) and prefix the link with a S to start, K to kill, a number 00-99 and finally the name of the script. Then init simply runs the scripts in alphanumeric order. Upstart on the other hand uses deps to speed things up it can s
[14:52] <pfifo> tart mutiple scripts at once when the deps are resolved.
[14:53] <NSA_AGENT> command not found rather
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> NSA_AGENT: use tab to complete commands, you can also grep the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications to see what command is ran, then run that
[14:53] <NSA_AGENT> i tried to install it again just to see , and it says its already installed
[14:53] <holstein> NSA_AGENT: run whatever command it takes to run the application, and see what the output is
[14:54] <halt> Hi all, I'm reading the help of the ssh here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring#Specify_Which_Accounts_Can_Use_SSH  and I'm wondering is there any way how i can limit the user login by login type, so A,B,C can login with they keys and D,E,F can login with they key and passord, is that possibel ?
[14:54] <NSA_AGENT> how do i figure out the command to run it, i dont see why it wouldnt just be penguintv
[14:55] <matematikaadit> i've done sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[14:55] <matematikaadit> now, how i start unity
[14:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudo service lightdm start :P
[14:56] <zmoe> hi weiss jmd wie ich irssi per terminal starte?
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> !de
[14:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> zmoe: schrieb irssi
[14:57] <jacki> when I'm trying to restart networking "sudo /etc/init.d.networking" I am getting ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816953/
[14:57] <julian37> pfifo: are you sure? http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/DependencyBasedBoot sounds like sysV can also support dependencies (presumably by setting the numerical priorities correctly)
[14:57] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: well, it just show my desktop now, no panel, no launcher.
[14:58] <julian37> pfifo: oh, perhaps using insserv instead of update-rc.d will work?
[14:58] <zmoe> danke
[14:58] <jacki> please someone help me. when I'm trying to restart networking "sudo /etc/init.d.networking" I am getting ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5816953/
[14:59] <resure> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 and get
[14:59] <wachin_> Hi All
[14:59] <Peyam> jacki: ifup: failed to open statefile /run/network/ifstate: No such file or directory
[14:59] <resure> *installer freeze at some point. Log says it's "cd / && run parts --report /etc/cron.hourly"
[14:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: hm. reboot?
[14:59] <wachin_> I can a problem, some Wine App do not show the icon that is this for the app
[14:59] <Peyam> jacki: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1162288
[15:00] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: it's the second time i reboot my machine.
[15:00] <Peyam> wachin_: usb stick?
[15:00] <Peyam> sorry
[15:00] <Peyam> resure: usb stick?
[15:00] <resure> Peyam: yes
[15:01] <wachin_> No no is
[15:01] <pfifo> julian37, thats not something I was familiar with, but yes it looks like you have to enable the feature, which is likely disabled in ubuntu due to upstart
[15:01] <wachin_> Example PickPick, e-Sword,
[15:01] <Peyam> resure: make it again. use an other usb port! and be sure you using the right version. 64 och 32 bits
[15:01] <julian37> pfifo: that looks like it worked. but I think it converted everything to upstart automatically. so you're still right :-)
[15:01] <julian37> pfifo: thanks!
[15:02] <resure> Peyam: strange thing is that installation was done without any errors
[15:02] <bawank> hi
[15:02] <bawank> anyone may help me to check CCSM?
[15:03] <Peyam> resure: does it work?
[15:03] <Guest16776> Hi.I have  Dual Monitor and the title bar on the second screen (which i only use use for viewing stuff) is alway on top how can I change that behavior.thanks.:)
[15:04] <resure> Peyam: I mean before freeze. It fails on trigger of update-notifier-common
[15:04] <Guest16776> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:04] <Peyam> resure: does the operative system work fine? or have you not been able to install the OS?
[15:04] <pfifo> Guest16776, you can move it to the bottom, then logout saving session, and it should default to the bottom then.
[15:05] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: how do i choose what DE in login? I could logout, but whenever i login the top panel and launcher never show up. just the desktop background.
[15:05] <bawank> anyone may help me to check CCSM?
[15:05] <Peyam> resure: reinstall it and make a new usb. if it not works come back again!
[15:05] <resure> Peyam: ok, thanks
[15:05] <Stanley00> bawank: what do you want do check?
[15:05] <bawank> CCSM for dirconf
[15:06] <Stanley00> bawank: can you provide more details
[15:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: honestly I have not a clue atm. I know little about unity anymore, as I loathe it :P
[15:06] <bawank> i wanna check my notebook supported CCSM or not
[15:07] <bawank> to run compiz
[15:07] <Stanley00> then just install and test it. It's not that hard :D
[15:08] <bawank> nope, i mean before instalation, i'd check it first
[15:08] <bawank> i had some information : $ wget http://blogage.de/files/9124/download -O compiz-check
[15:08] <bawank> but it dosnt work for me
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> bawank  can you not try it with a live usb stick?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> bawank: what GPU do you use?
[15:10] <bawank> Ubuntu 12.04
[15:10] <Guest16776> How to change top panel behavior to not be alway be on top (Ubuntu 12.04 LTS - Unity)
[15:11] <bawank> live usb? i dont understand
[15:11] <NSA_AGENT> i installed PenguinTV and cant get it to launch. when i try to run it from the terminal i get this error. could someone help explain whats wrong?  http://pastebin.com/AeeSFWfQ
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> bawank: you can run Ubuntu from a USB stick if you use unetbootin and the Ubuntu ISO you wish to use
[15:12] <Pei> is there an apt-get package i can download that will download all the development tools i need to compile programs
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> NSA_AGENT: what is the output of:  sudo updatedb; locate run-mozilla.sh
[15:12] <bawank> i used wubi for dual booting
[15:12] <NSA_AGENT> ActionParsnip,  one sec
[15:13] <pfifo> Pei, I usually install the 'build-essential' package
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> NSA_AGENT: the error is pretty self explanatory, just read it
[15:13] <NSA_AGENT> ActionParsnip,  i thought so too but im very new to linux (only 2 days) so i figured id double check
[15:13] <bawank> and i wanna to check about CCSM, my notebook spec supported or no, for compiz
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> bawank  how did you install ubuntu 12.04 ?
[15:15] <bawank> via wubi
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> bawank  that not good, wubi is not a real installation, it's for testing purposes
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> that's*
[15:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> bawank: wubi is epic fail.
[15:16] <Peyam> hahaha
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> NSA_AGENT: you may get no output, then we will need to make some symlinks to humour the scrip
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> *script
[15:16] <bawank> i see
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> wubi = will ultimately be inefficient
[15:16] <bawank> should i re-install?
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> !dualboot | bawank
[15:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> yes. you can test with the wubi install, but in the end you should have a real install.
[15:17] <qursk> guys i trying to create path for phonegap but i always get this error http://imgur.com/3IaqbZF
[15:18] <qursk> I have path the bin folder phonegap and later for cordova but getting this error all the time.
[15:18] <bawank> thanks a lot bro
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> qursk: why an image for text, pastebin is much faster
[15:18] <bawank> i'll try to re-install
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> qursk: do you need to make the folder you want to work in first at all?
[15:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> qursk: ./create means "execute file create in ./" which means current dir. obviously create does not reside in you home folder.
[15:19] <qursk> i understand so where should i path to ?
[15:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> where does the create file reside?
[15:20] <NSA_AGENT> ActionParsnip, yeah i had no output. right now im installing firefox. just waiting for it to finish
[15:20] <qursk> ntzrmtthihu777: have no idea
[15:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> qursk: run "locate create" in terminal.
[15:21] <qursk> yes
[15:22] <qursk> i ve done but still getting the same error no such file or directory
[15:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> qursk: this will tell you the location of create if it exists on your filesystem. so it must not exist. where are you getting these instructions from?
[15:22] <NSA_AGENT> ActionParsnip, can i PM you ?
[15:23] <pudge> exit
[15:24] <qursk> well lots of codes has flow in terminal
[15:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> qursk: what?
[15:24] <jacki> pfifo , can I ask you a question ?
[15:25] <pfifo> jacki, shoot
[15:25] <qursk> when i type locate create lots of codes has generated in my terminal
[15:26] <yown> My version of ubuntu is outdated, which version should I update to?
[15:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> qursk: locate create | grep "/create"
[15:26] <NSA_AGENT> holstein, can you take a look at the pastebin im still having problems launching PenguinTV http://pastebin.com/AeeSFWfQ
[15:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> yown: 12.04
[15:26] <GunArm> is it possible, through ssh, to start a long running process (like a big rsync job) so that it won't terminate/die if the ssh session is closed or loses connection?
[15:26] <yown> Why that instead of 13.4?
[15:26] <holstein> !info screen | GunArm
[15:26] <jacki> pfifo ; I am running ubuntu 12.04 on open vz . I modified "/etc/net.../interfaces" but when I run "/etc/init.d/net... restart " I am having ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5817039/
[15:27] <holstein> GunArm: run screen, then run what you want, and you can connect back into it
[15:28] <qursk> usr/share
[15:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> holstein: screen is da junk :D
[15:28] <yown> Isn't 13.4 is relatively stable and bug free?
[15:29] <GunArm> holstein: thanks
[15:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> yown: because its supported 5 years (till 2017)
[15:29] <holstein> yown: they are all officially released. "stable" can be a matter of use case
[15:29] <yown> ntzrmtthihu777: That is only a reason if you don't plan to update for 9 months or more, and why wouldn't you want to?
[15:29] <holstein> yown: the reason to choose 12.04 over 13.04 is not "stablitly".. its the support cycle
[15:29] <jacki> pfifo ; ?!
[15:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> yown: because experience tells me that updating usually goes badly.
[15:30] <Vec_> Hey guys, i'm trying to swap a 160g disk containing the entire linux system with a new 320g disk. I want the exact same files/system on the 320g disk as was on the original 160g. Is this doable for a linux newbie?
[15:30] <matematikaadit> i've no idea what to do now.
[15:30] <matematikaadit> i've reinstalling ubuntu-desktop
[15:30] <yown> holstein: Please elaborate on support cycle
[15:30] <GunArm> yown: why would I want to
[15:30] <holstein> ntzrmtthihu777: i prefer a fresh install... seems to take me much less time as well, though i test the upgrad paths when i have time
[15:30] <DJones> !cloning | Vec_
[15:30] <pfifo> jacki, do a stop, then a start, instead of a restart so I can track down where this is happening, pastebin the results
[15:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> Vec_: anything is doable, my freind. easy is another thing altogether :P
[15:30] <yown> gunwant to what?
[15:30] <jacki> ok
[15:30] <yown> GunArm: want to what?
[15:30] <holstein> yown: 13.04 is suppported for 9 months.. 12.04 is supported for 5 years...
[15:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> holstein: same. which is why I say experience usually goes badly :P
[15:31] <GunArm> reinstall my OS multiple times per year
[15:31] <matematikaadit> what to do if unity panel, top-bar, etc doesn't show up?
[15:31] <holstein> yown: if you want longer support, you use the long term support.. if you want newer packages, you use the newer version
[15:31] <GunArm> just saying, some systems, especially servers, need to be heavily customized, and not "messed with" for as long as possible
[15:31] <yown> holstein: That doesn't tell me why you think I should choose 12.04 rather then choosing 13.4 and keep regularly updating
[15:31] <jacki> pfifo ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5817051/
[15:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: try alt+f2 inside the lightdm session and running unity-panel
[15:32] <Vec_> DJones: Does this copy EVERYTHING over? As in personal files, edited config files ect ect?
[15:32] <GunArm> yown: its up to you
[15:32] <Vec_> Basically i want everything to run as it was, except on this new disk
[15:32] <yown> holstein: Do you find upgrades break the system most of the time.
[15:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> Vec_: no.
[15:32] <holstein> yown:  i never said you should choose 12.04 over 13.04.. im stating why i think one would
[15:32] <DJones> Vec_: No, that would only install the same packages you had installed
[15:32] <yown> GunArm: That is a obvious statement you just made
[15:32] <Vec_> ntzrmtthihu777: Any way to do this? Like make a snapshot or whatever
[15:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> yown: I said that, lol.
[15:32] <babarhaq> Hi all , i m trying to map my laptop fn key to some key combination on my usb keyboard, can some one help?
[15:32] <GunArm> yown: its the obvious answer to your question
[15:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Vec_: remastersys, clonezilla, there are a number of ways to do it.
[15:33] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: nope, alt+f2 doesn't work
[15:33] <pfifo> jacki, see now that worked... you got hit by exactly what it said, 'restart' is borked... Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces
[15:33] <DJones> Vec_: You would still need to copy all the files in /home over to the new drive
[15:33] <holstein> yown: i *always* try a live CD.. i see the live CD boot to the desktop on the *actual* hardware. if i choose to try and do an  upgrade, its after i hae my data backed up, so failure in the upgrade process literlaly doesnt matter to me.
[15:33] <GunArm> yown: no one is saying, "don't get the newer one", if that was "THE good advice" they just wouldn't release the 6 month versions.  so you are just asking about peoples opinions
[15:33] <Vec_> ntzrmtthihu777: maby the easiest way would just be to reinstall and backup my config files
[15:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: sudo service networking restart is the best way.
[15:33] <matematikaadit> ntzrmtthihu777: or... is it window manager problem?
[15:33] <holstein> yown: i find a fresh install takes me about 8 minutes.. and an upgrade, usually idealy finishes in under 5 hours
[15:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Vec_: this, maybe.
[15:33] <GunArm> some of us prefer the LTS so we don't have to do big risky upgrades every 6 months
[15:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: no clue, as I said know little about unity anymore due to strong loathing.
[15:34] <holstein> it *is* a question of preference.. and its up to you to decide yown
[15:34]  * Vec_ ponders, brb
[15:34] <DJones> Vec_: There are a few suggestion  on http://askubuntu.com/questions/151127/how-do-i-move-copy-my-entire-ubuntu-system-to-a-different-hard-disk that may help
[15:34] <yown> holstein: So you prefer to keep upgrading, and if the upgrade breaks, you do a fresh install?
[15:34] <Vec_> DJones: thanks
[15:34] <jacki> pfifo ; thanks . but I still canot see my new configuration when I hit "ip addr"
[15:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> yown: no. he prefers clean installs, as he clearly stated previously.
[15:35] <holstein> yown: i perfer a fresh install. i usually test the upgrade path, and report if there are issues, and still do a fresh install after that completes
[15:35] <jacki> pfifo ; I had configured venet0:0 and it is not in the result !!
[15:35] <yown> holstein: It is a matter of informed decision, I am looking for the information, not to be told the obvious, that it is my choice...
[15:35] <pfifo> jacki, pastebin 'cat /etc/networking/interfaces && ip addr && ifconfig'
[15:35] <holstein> yown: this *is* the information.. if you prefer long term support, get the long term support.. if you prefer newer packages, get the newer version.. each has its unique pros and cons
[15:36] <yown> holstein: And what are those pros and cons
[15:36] <GunArm> yown: you asked "what should I use" and were given an opinion and then argue about it.  we are not here to write you an encyclopedia article on the pros and cons
[15:36] <yown> holstein: Do the latest usually work well right "out of the box" so to speak?
[15:36] <GunArm> well enough
[15:37] <holstein> yown: the pros and cons are unique to each system.. the LTS has older packages, so thats a con.. the regular release has a shorter suppport schedule, which is a con
[15:37] <GunArm> they have gone through a beta cycle already
[15:37] <holstein> yown: nothing is hiding from you here.. its just a matter of getting one and trying it
[15:37] <yown> GunArm: A few is not a encyclopedia article, this is not a choice between extremes
[15:37] <jacki> pfifo ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5817065/
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> yown  12.04 if you want long support, 13.04 if you want the latest stuff, it's up to you to decide
[15:38] <holstein> yown: try the latest.. if you dont like reinstalling, or upgrading in a few months, try the LTS.. try it live.. keep in mind, 14.04 should, and likely will be an LTS
[15:38] <pfifo> jacki, i suppose I asked for that
[15:38] <pfifo> jacki, pastebin 'cat /etc/network/interfaces && ip addr && ifconfig'
[15:38] <yown> holstein: By shorter support schedule, you mean the 9months verses the 5 years?
[15:38] <holstein> yown: you can try 13.04, see how the upgrade works to 13.10.. then do a fresh install.. *then* try the LTS, at 14.04.. and move on when you feel 14.04 is too "old"
[15:39] <holstein> yown: yes.. that *is* the suppport schedule.. one is long term, and the other is not
[15:39] <holstein> yown: is 5 years bettter thatn 9 months? its longer, and that is a fact.. better is a mattter of opinion
[15:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> short of something catastrophic in precise showing up before 14.04 hits I'm sticking with lts's :P
[15:39] <yown> holstein: Yes, but that matter is irrelevant if you keep upgrading since the next upgrade will come long before 9 months
[15:40] <holstein> yown: and that upgrading process could be seen as a con
[15:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> irrelevant it is not, all facts are relevant to your choice. emphasis on *your* *choice*
[15:40] <marcello> ciao
[15:40] <jacki> pfifo I did, wasn't it ?
[15:40] <holstein> yown: as you are asking.. 'what if it breaks?' 'how is it done?'.. these "issues" happen *much* less often on an LTS release
[15:41] <yown> ntzrmtthihu777: You might as well be emphasizing how the sun is hot, or that water is wet, please knock that off
[15:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> yown: nope.
[15:41] <pfifo> jacki, its /etc/network, i told you /etc/networking oops...
[15:41] <GunArm> yown: are you a troll?
[15:41] <jacki> o ok
[15:41] <holstein> yown: is the LTS "better" thanthe regular release? better is a matter of opinion, but the fact is, one doenst need to upgrade the LTS as often
[15:42] <yown> GunArm: If you are not going to help me, at least don't rudely accuse me
[15:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> I'll stop emphasizing the obvious when you start listening to what is said to you. you asked, we answered.
[15:42] <marcello> ciao
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> yown  you can stick with LTS for 5 years; with non-LTS only 9 months
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> !it | marcello
[15:42] <jacki> pfifo ; I am having ssh to it , and the result is too long, and i cannot highlight it to paste it here , is there anyway I can copy the result ?
[15:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> !it | matematikaadit
[15:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> matematikaadit: my bad XD
[15:43] <yown> holstein: So when upgrading from one LTS to another, it is less likely to break then when upgrading to STS?
[15:43] <marcello> hello
[15:43] <marcello> help
[15:43] <holstein> yown: you should, as i said the other day, be prepared for breakage
[15:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> marcello: with what?
[15:43] <yown> holstein: Or do you just mean, more upgrades in general=more chance of breakage?
[15:43] <pfifo> jacki, actually yes, 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit' then youll have the power paste script
[15:43] <pfifo> !pastebinit | jacki
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> yown  why do you think it would break in the first place?
[15:44] <PocketDog> Yown, I've been upgrading since Hardy Heron 8.04, I'm on 12.04 now. never had an issue after a dist-upgrade
[15:44] <holstein> yown: if you cant handle breakage, dont use an operating system.. get an appliance that someone else maintains. like an android phone, or something with a support contract
[15:44] <pfifo> jacki, the command changes  to this 'cat /etc/network/interfaces && ip addr && ifconfig | pastebinit'
[15:44] <holstein> yown: otherwise, backup your data for when *all* hard drives fail, such as yours.. and you will be prepared for any breakage from anything
[15:44] <yown> PocketDog:  MonkeyDust Because ntz and other have told me that it regularly breaks
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> yown  who or what is ntz ?
[15:45] <nasir> hi my vlc crashes when i put it in full screen. my brightness can also not decrease. moreover what app can i use to save power.
[15:45] <holstein> yown: *everything* regularly breaks
[15:45] <PocketDog> yown That's not my experience
[15:45] <pfifo> jacki, just take note it needs a working internet connection of course
[15:45] <holstein> yown: be prepared for breakage, and it wont matter. upgrades work. most prefer fresh installs
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> yown  does a car ever break? does it keep you from driving one?
[15:45] <symb0l> what amd/nvidia graphics card has best support for 13.04?
[15:45] <yown> MonkeyDust: ntzrmtthihu, person talking to me about this today and yesterday
[15:45] <PocketDog> normal updates can introduce problems *looks at goole earth* but distro upgrades are pretty solid
[15:46] <PocketDog> LTS ones, at least
[15:46] <yown> PocketDog: What is the difference between normal upgrades and distro ones?
[15:46] <holstein> the reason i dont like them is the time they take.. i find it much faster to just to a fresh install
[15:46] <zero_coder> i created an hotspot in ubuntu
[15:46] <holstein> yown: the disto one upgrades the distro
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> yown  how many opinions do you want, before you can decide?
[15:46] <zero_coder> but my mobile is not detecting that
[15:46] <jacki> pfifo ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5817107/
[15:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> PocketDog: in deference to your longer history with ubuntu, I must still state that this channel quite frequently has people complaining about upgrades getting borked :P
[15:47] <pfifo> jacki, the command changes  to this 'cat /etc/network/interfaces && ip addr && ifconfig | pastebinit'
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> ntzrmtthihu777  yes, afterall, this *is* the support channel, where people come when things go wrong
[15:47] <yown> holstein: So is there a reason for you to choose fresh installs verses upgrades besides time and some unnamed chance of breakage?
[15:48] <PocketDog> ntzrmtthihu777 granted, but people rarely come onto a help channel if they're not having issues :p
[15:48] <zero_coder> hello , i need help with the hotspot
[15:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> PocketDog: true that, lol.
[15:48] <holstein> yown: as i said, the time.. that is *excactly* and *precisel* why i choose and prefer a fresh install.. just as i said..
[15:48] <yown> holstein: I mean is there a reason besides those two reasons?
[15:48] <holstein> yown: no
[15:49] <holstein> yown: not for me.. that is the only reason i stated.. and its still current information regardiny my personal situation
[15:49] <jacki> pfifo  ; I couldn't install the package , pastebinit !
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> yown  have you used your time here to download the iso's, so you can try them yourself?
[15:49] <yown> Is there a increased chance of breakage when upgrading to a STS release verses a LTS release?
[15:49] <jacki> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5817107/
[15:49] <holstein> yown: the "chance" of breakage is not an issue for me on any level
[15:49] <Vec_> Ok guys, im reinstalling my server. I only have SAMBA, CUPS, OpenSSH installed. Im backing up my smb.conf, fstab, cups conf, openssh conf and the user files. Is there anything im likely forgetting that i might have configured and forgotten to back up? ><
[15:49] <holstein> yown: no
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: or pipe the commands to tee -a file, it will output to the file and the screen, handy
[15:49] <pfifo> jacki, no internet on the VM, are you sshing from a linux machine?
[15:49] <yown> holstein: You mean you didn't experience breakage, even when you wre upgrading verses fresh installing?
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Vec_: ssh keys if they are used.
[15:50] <GunArm> MonkeyDust: thats why I suspect hes a troll.  asking questions that have obvious answers, and then complaining when the answers are obvious.  seems to want an authoritarian answer to make the decision for but then rejects the answer
[15:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> Vec_: fstab may not work on new server, as the uuid may change with partitioning :P
[15:50] <Vec_> ActionParsnip: only using login so thats fine
[15:50] <jacki> pfifo ; I have internet , and I am connecting through internet via ssh
[15:50] <holstein> yown: i mean, i literally dont care if anything breaks at anytime, because i have planned for it, and expect it
[15:50] <PocketDog> Breakages are the fun part
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> Vec_  /etc/network/interfaces   can be backed up, too, if it's very complex, for your server
[15:51] <holstein> yown: as i said, if you dont want breakage, dont use a computer.. get an appliance or a support contract
[15:51] <yown> GunArm: If you answer questions not asked, then it is your failure to listen that is the issue
[15:51] <c_smith> PacktDog, then you'll like Arch.
[15:51] <c_smith> *Packetdog
[15:51] <Vec_> MonkeyDust: Ah thanks. Its very simple, i havent touched it so i guess thats fine to ignore
[15:51] <PocketDog> c_smith too set in my ways now mate!
[15:51] <pfifo> jacki, are you using ssh from a linux machine
[15:51] <jacki> no
[15:51] <GunArm> your question was "which should I use", and it is all a matter of hassle and preference
[15:51] <jacki> windows
[15:51] <GunArm> what do you want from us
[15:51] <c_smith> PacketDog, touche,.
[15:52] <yown> GunArm: I never asked "is it my choose?"
[15:52] <smart1> hi, where do i set the env vars in ubuntu 12? allf .bash* files are missing
[15:52] <yown> *choice
[15:52] <jacki> pfifo ; I am connecting to ity using my mic windows !
[15:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> yown: you have become too much of an annoyance. I'm ignoring you. GunArm I suggest you do the same, lol.
[15:52] <mumpitze1> smart1: system wide ones?
[15:52] <smart1> yes
[15:52] <GunArm> you were told to use one over the other, (since you seem to need to be told what to do) but weren't happy with that either.  you are annoying the channel
[15:52] <mumpitze1> smart1: /etc/profile maybe?
[15:52] <pfifo> jacki, instead of the long output from the command, would it be easier if it put all that info into a file and then pastebin or upload the file?
[15:53] <GunArm> yown: its like multiple paths from A to B.  well, why did you choose path 1?  why not path 2?  is that the only reason you chose it?  well is there rocks on one?  but there might be rocks on other, what about the chance of bird poop. just pick a path and go with it its basically the same
[15:53] <GunArm> you will form a preference
 no, just a  profile.d folder
[15:53] <zmoe> hi weiss jemand wie ich bei lampp meinen Benutzername rausfinden kann das passwort weiss ich
[15:53] <ubuntu1101_1101> hello
[15:53] <smart1> unity changed everything
[15:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: you can also do command | pastebinit :P
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> !de
[15:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> !de | zmoe
[15:53] <ubuntu1101_1101> hai world
[15:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> MonkeyDust: heh, same thougth :P
[15:53] <zero_coder> is there any software like connectify for ubuntu
[15:53] <zero_coder> ?
[15:53] <mumpitze1> smart1: then use that
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> zero_coder: what does it do?
[15:53] <pfifo> ntzrmtthihu777, ohh wow, pastebinit works in absence of networking now :D cool
[15:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> zero_coder: what does it do?
[15:53] <holstein> yown: i will be happy to repeat myself or whatever i need to do for you in #ubuntu-offtopic, but you have drifted from official support.. please /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:53] <yown> holstein: I get that you are unconcerned about breakage, but for awhile you did upgrade I assume, before deciding fresh install is better. If so, how often did breakage happen to you from upgrading?
[15:54] <jacki> pfifo ; sure , but I don't know how !
[15:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> pfifo: XD sorry, musta missed that :P
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> !ics | zero_coder
[15:54] <holstein> yown: breakage *always* happens.. in all kinds of different ways
 you read thati said this is a folder, right?
[15:54] <zero_coder> ActionParsnip, ntzrmtthihu777 : create hotspot
[15:54] <GunArm> ^^
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> yown  stop the discussion, please, i guess you get the point: we cannot decide for you
[15:54] <mumpitze1> smart1: I know. and?
[15:54] <holstein> yown: please /join the offtopic channel i reference
[15:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> zero_coder: network-manager can do this.
[15:55] <zero_coder> ubottu : that willl be an ad-hoc network..but mobile phones wont detect that
[15:55] <smart1> the question was, where do i set the vars. and the answer will not be. place it in the folder.
[15:55] <mumpitze1> smart1: it is the answer. why can't you do that?
[15:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> smart1: what shell do you use prefereably?
[15:55] <smart1> because it's not possible to write text directly in a folder -.-
[15:55] <mumpitze1> smart1: you can put a file there, no?
[15:56] <jacki> pfifo , I found a way ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5817131/
[15:56] <zero_coder> ntzrmtthihu777 : adhoc networks wont do the job
 hmm, good question- ubuntu 12. unity base shell. called terminal
[15:56] <zero_coder> android phone wont detect ad-hoc network
[15:56] <mumpitze1> zero_coder: if you want to create an AP, use hostapd
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> zero_coder: the ics factoid shows how you can make a hotspot
[15:57] <jacki> pfifo ; but it is still different from the modification that I made !
 yes, for sure i can. you want to tell me , that i can choose every name? i'm sure this will not work
[15:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> smart1: within terminal you can have many shells, zsh, irb, bash, csh, etc. if you want use bash (generic default) you can save the contents of this pastebin in ~/.bashrc; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5817138/
[15:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> smart1: in fact, you can just execute this command in a terminal "cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~/
[15:58] <mumpitze1> ntzrmtthihu777: and how does this answer his question for something systemwide? especially since when creating his user, this was already done, so why do it again?
[15:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> smart1: and save yourself some time. instead of typing that all out by hand just type the first few letters of a nickname and hit tab
[15:59] <Dettorer> hi, I'm having a problem using libnetfilter_log: I can handle packet under an certain size, but when the payload length is bigger than 4032, the function "nflog_handle_packet" immediatly returns -1, which means "internal error", how can I investigate that ?
[15:59] <jacki> pfifo ; are you still willing to help me ?!
[15:59] <Dettorer> my iptables rule is iptables -A OUTPUT --destination 1.2.3.4 -p udp -j NFLOG --nflog-group 1
[15:59] <Dettorer> and my test program is http://paste.awesom.eu/rCb
[15:59] <pfifo> jacki, what exactly is the problem here? I see it working as expected
[16:00] <jrib> smart1: the answer to your question is it kind of depends on what you actually want to do, so be more specific
[16:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> mumpitze1: ah. missed systemwide, lol. either way, there should(?) be a file /etc/bash.bashrc that he can place the values in.
[16:00] <mumpitze1> ntzrmtthihu777: that's for interactive shells... /etc/profile (which can be created if it doesn't exist too btw) is systemwide for all bash shells
[16:00] <smart1> jrib: i need to  set some env vars, so that thunderbird can run an analyzation for me
[16:01] <jrib> smart1: what env var...
[16:01] <jacki> pfifo ; if I reboot the system everything will be fine ?
[16:01] <mumpitze1> jacki: are you using network-manager or /etc/network/interfaces to configure your network?
[16:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> mumpitze1: actually he said there are no .bash* files in his ~
[16:01] <smart1> NSPR_LOG_FILE and NSPR_LOG_MODULES
[16:01] <pfifo> jacki, why would you want to reboot?
[16:02] <jacki> I am using /etc/network/interfaces
[16:02] <jrib> smart1: and what will you set them to?  They will have the same value for all your users (since you want to do this system-wide)?
[16:02] <jacki> becasue I want to make sure my configuration is persistant
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> !who| jacki
[16:02] <jacki> I reboot the system and it is not responding !
[16:03] <smart1> NSPR_LOG_FILE=$HOME/tbtace.log and NSPR_LOG_MODULES=proto:level[5]
[16:04] <jrib> smart1: you can use /etc/environment then.  You can read more here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[16:04] <jacki> pfifo ; I wanted to make sure if the network configuration is permanent , I reboot the system and it is not responding !
[16:04] <the-erm> jacki: That's horrible.  Any blinking lights?  with xubuntu sometimes the splash screen didn't show up.
 i already read this chapeter, but i didn't know that it will work when i generate the files and folders manually because the are all missing
[16:04] <jacki> pfifo ; I have to connect to it using web access from my "hyper VM"
[16:04] <the-erm> ctrl+alt+f1 may show you a screen with the status, and where the init processes are at.
[16:04] <pfifo> jacki, I see your interfaces are in state UNKNOWN, it should be UP
[16:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacki: you can add network config commands to /etc/rc.local (I did so to maintain a steady static ip connection to my samba server on eth0)
[16:05] <jrib> smart1: you have a strange (read: broken) install if all those files are missing
[16:05] <smart1> i thought this will come from unity
[16:05] <smart1> the skel files exist
[16:05] <smart1> but the bash config files and etc files are missing
[16:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> smart1: and your still making things hard on yourself and others. manually typing the name with < > 1. takes time, and 2. does not notify who you are talking to that you are talking to them.
[16:06] <jrib> smart1: presumably by "all missing" you include the system-wide files too
[16:06] <jacki> I will configure it again and I will contact you , I wish I had another contact from you
[16:06] <jrib> smart1: if you're just missing the files in a user's home, then you probably created the user in a strange way
[16:06] <jacki> pfifo ; I will configure it again and I will contact you , I wish I had another contact from you
[16:07] <the-erm> How do you tell if you have xorg misconfiguration or your graphics card just doesn't support higher resolutions?
[16:07] <smart1> ntzrmtthihu777: stupid question, but how do you refer fast to a name? i always write or copy it, but this need a long time by names like yours ;)
[16:07] <mumpitze1> smart1: nt<tab>
[16:08] <mumpitze1> most client auto complete it then for you
[16:08] <pfifo> jacki, it looks like your setting venet0 down in the first entry
[16:08] <mumpitze1> the-erm: by looking at the Xorg.0.log
[16:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> smart1: I type 4 keys, maybe 5, per name, regardless of the lenght. its a feature in most irc clients called tab completion (also in most shell sessions)
[16:08] <smart1> mumpitze1, thx
[16:08] <smart1> ntzrmtthihu777, thx 2
[16:08] <pfifo> jacki, whay are you doing manual setup anyway?
[16:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> smart1: you can also do this for most terminal commands, as well.
[16:08] <the-erm> mumpitze1: log files ... *face palm* Why didn't I think of that?!
[16:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> the-erm: because its far to obviouse, lol. don't worry, we've all been there :P
[16:09] <jacki> pfifo ; it is strange , it won't work other way !
[16:11] <jacki> pfifo ; I rebbot the system and this is the result ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5817178/
[16:11] <smart1> mumpitze1, ntzrmtthihu777 , jrib : thx for the answers, now my last question, will the env vars set withtout restarting?
[16:11] <smart1> i set it in /etc/environment now
[16:12] <mumpitze1> no
[16:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> smart1: you may have to reload them, but idk about using /etc/environment. I just use my dotfiles :P
[16:12] <smart1> kk, if not i will be back in a min :D
[16:12] <suore> hey, exist any Linux communicator ?
[16:13] <suore> legal communicator
[16:13] <mumpitze1> what is a legal communicator?
[16:13] <jacki> pfifo ; please consider this ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5817182/   what should I do !
[16:13] <pfifo> jacki, on line 25 i notice your using a loopback for your ip address, 127.0.0.2... why?
[16:13] <jacki> can you help me configure it , this time together !?
[16:14] <suore> fx. using others communicator than native GG communicator is illegal :P
[16:14] <suore> but GG havent linux port :P pidgin have
[16:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> the heck is gg?
[16:14] <jacki> pfifo ; you tell me and I will add what ever you tell me .
[16:14] <suore> but is illegal
[16:14] <david_> Hi, when i boot from live cd on laptop grub command line starts -___-
[16:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> david_: hit enter?
[16:15] <mumpitze1> ntzrmtthihu777: my guess is something like jabber or icq
[16:15] <david_> ntzrmtthihu777: Enter just moves to next line
[16:15] <suore> ntzrmtthihu777, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadu-Gadu this is GG
[16:15] <mumpitze1> suore: next time, write legibly and understable: gadu-gadu and not "GG"
[16:16] <suore> GG is shotcut of Gadu-Gadu
[16:16] <david_> Grub>, Grub> etc
[16:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> mumpitze1: see, I've heard of icq and jabber. never used them, but have heard of them. GG is a void.
[16:16] <suore> jabber and icq.. i check it
[16:16] <pfifo> jacki, I think you should use this as your interfaces file to start... http://fpaste.org/22154/72695354/ make the change and then stop/start networking
[16:17] <mumpitze1> suore: https://www.google.com/search?q=gadu-gadu+linux+client tells you kadu might be the linux client of choice. if it works with the current proprietary protocol, we can't know
[16:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> suore: you cannot assume what you *know* to not have a linux port to be known in a *linux* channel by abbreviation.
[16:17] <mumpitze1> suore: jabber and icq are different things, they are like gadu-gadu, but different protocols and networks
[16:17] <suore> mumpitze1, kk
[16:17] <david_> "GNU GRUB version 2.00-13ubunto3"       "Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB list possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB list possible device or file completions" grub >
[16:17] <suore> but using other clients are legit?
[16:17] <suore> for this protocols?
[16:17] <JamJar> Is it in any way possible to instruct the ubuntu installer to use a specific version of a package, or to avoid the whole <release>-updates tree through the use of a preseed file? it's been driving me nuts.
[16:18] <mumpitze1> suore: we don't know and we don't care. ask the folks who run gadu-gadu, not us
[16:18] <jacki> pfifo ; thanks I will tell you the result !
[16:18] <suore> i ask about IRC and Jabber
[16:18] <mumpitze1> suore: IRC and jabber are Free yes.
[16:18] <suore> at GG using other clients with their protocol is allegal. so i ask about others like Jabber now
[16:18] <mumpitze1> suore: but you can't connect to your gadu-gadu contacts with them
[16:18] <suore> aa okie okie its free, so ok
[16:19] <david_> Please help me
[16:19] <david_> I currently only have windows on the damn machine
[16:19] <mumpitze1> david_: are you using a CD or a usb stick?
[16:19] <seednode> Oh man Windows
[16:20] <david_> Both lol, results in same
[16:20] <david_> Yumi on usb gives same result
[16:20] <mumpitze1> david_: I'm not totally sure but I don't think ubuntu uses grub on CDs, does it?
[16:20] <Dettorer> david_: are you sure there is no error or other informations before the gurb command line starts ?
[16:20] <chro> hi, I have a cluster with 6 machines, how can I make my home to mirror through all machines ?
[16:20] <mumpitze1> david_: YUMI certainly doesn't use grub. you have a different problem
[16:21] <pfifo> david_ livecd's dont use grub, so it seems your booting to harddrive or thumbdrive
[16:21] <seednode> Try formatting and doing again
[16:21] <david_> I think its my wierd bios, it browses for something called "EFIs" on the ubunto cd theres a folder named EFI and in that grub
[16:21] <mumpitze1> david_: has there ever been linux installed on that machine besides windows?
[16:21] <david_> Nope
[16:21] <david_> Even the windows installed is from when it was purchased in store
[16:22] <david_> Cant speak for hp tough lol
[16:22] <Dettorer> david_: are you sure it's a _grub_ command line ?
[16:22] <david_> It says exactly this : "GNU GRUB version 2.00-13ubunto3"       "Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB list possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB list possible device or file completions" grub >
[16:22] <david_> I can do commands like ls in it
[16:23] <pfifo> !uefi | david_ start here
[16:23] <tsbtmn> Do any tigervnc users know if there is a way to hide or otherwise specify the appearance of the local mouse cursor?  I'd rather that only the remote cursor shows up instead of having both overlaid.
[16:23] <david_> THanks man
[16:31] <NSA_AGENT> hi guys, can someone help me fix this error message when im trying to run an app i just installed...... Please export WITH_MOZ_DIR with the location of run-mozilla.sh to correct this issue
[16:34] <gregmark> NSA: run "find / -name run-mozilla.sh" to get the full path of that script
[16:34] <jacki> pfifo I did and this is the result ;  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5817245/
[16:34] <NSA_AGENT> gregmark,  ok
[16:35] <gregmark> NSA: then export WITH_MOZ_DIR=<directory of that script>
[16:35] <jacki> pfifo ; but I cannot ping outside , I couldn't even ping 38.69.132.0 network !
[16:35] <hazardous> does anyone know whats up with apt-xapian-index
[16:35] <hazardous> and why it seems to be eating 200% cpu
[16:35] <hazardous> i didn't do an apt-get update or anything
[16:36] <pfifo> jacki, something is autogenerating your /etc/network/interfaces
[16:37] <david_> Damn. It didnt help, all information on the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI, takes for granted that i am able to get access to the installer somehow
[16:37] <Kion> How do I install Ubuntu one on a Windows 8 computer?
[16:37] <jacki> pfifo ; how can I know ?
[16:37] <jacki> pfifo ; what should I do ?!
[16:37] <Kion> They dont seem to have a binary for win8
[16:37] <david_> Kion start by downloading the cd
[16:37] <Kion> any experiences?
[16:38] <Kion> david_: not the OS, I just want to install the ubntu one application
[16:38] <pfifo> jacki, as you can see in the comment at the top of your interfaces file... I dont know what is causing this to happen, but if you really want to setup your interfaces by hand, youll need to remove this functionality.
[16:38] <Fuzzles272> anyone know when mir is coming to 13.10?
[16:38] <david_> Kion: lol thought you misspelled
[16:38] <Pici> Kion: You may want to ask in #ubuntu-one
[16:39] <Kion> david_: No problem... I 've got Ubuntu for more than 5 years now... this is for my boss computer
[16:39] <Kion> not mine.
[16:39] <david_> Why would you want a linux package manager on windows?
[16:39] <jacki> pfifo ; how can I remove that functionality ?
[16:39] <Kion> Pici: Thanks! I will go there
[16:39] <shivani> Hello I am trying to install ubuntu from a bootable usb and getting this error ERROR: No configuration file found .
[16:39] <shivani> Could anyone please help me ASAP
[16:40] <pfifo> jacki, figure out what program is autogenerating your interfaces, and uninstall it
[16:40] <shivani> I tried doing what is suggested http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1698744 , but doesnt seem to help
[16:41] <Kion> shivani: In the past I have had better results using unetbootin to create my USB's than with the "Startup disk creator"
[16:41] <shivani> Kion : yeah I used Startup disk creator
[16:41] <shivani> is it possible to format a bootable usb ?
[16:41] <Kion> shivani: Try using Unetbootin
[16:41] <smallfoot-> I have a Radeon 5450, why does I not have compositing enabled?
[16:41] <jacki> pfifo ; thanks, it is weird . it is virtual machine, and I don't know what is going n in the back ground . I just know that I if I don't have route to it's loopback interface , I cannot even ping my 38.69.132.0 network
[16:41] <Kion> shivani: yes you can format
[16:42] <shivani> Kion , the whole right click < format doesnt work for me
[16:42] <jacki> pfifo, sth must be going on, but I am not able to fix it
[16:42] <shivani> I am on ubuntu 13.04 right now
[16:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> Kion: unetbootin is a bit hit and miss. if you have ubuntu installed already usb-creator-gtk is the way to go :P
[16:42] <Kion> shivani: use disk utility or gparted, (the usb filesystem must be unmounted to format)
[16:43] <jacki> pfifo, this image of ubuntu was from scratch, and I don't think any app is installed on it
[16:43] <shivani> KIon : got it thanks :)
[16:43] <jacki> pfifo, but anyhow thank you
[16:43] <mumpitzel> ntzrmtthihu777: does the ubs-creator-gtk overwrite the former content of the USB stick?
[16:43] <Kion> ntzrmtthihu777: I have allways used unetbootin without any problems, but if the one you suggest works well, thanks!
[16:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> mumpitzel: formats, I believe. could be mistaken.
[16:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> Kion: its best to use native tools when possible :P
[16:45] <shivani> ntzrmtthihu777 : formatting works for me here
[16:45] <shivani> startup disk creator crashes in raring
[16:45] <shivani> :\
[16:45] <shivani> I think I will try what Kion suggested
[16:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> shivani: dunno what to say about that, lol. I stick with lts's myself :P
[16:45] <Kion> shivani: Yes, I have made many USBs that way...
[16:46] <shivani> Kion : yes thankyou :D
[16:46] <Kion> shivani: You dont have to worry about formatting, unetbootin will give you the option.
[16:46] <shivani> oh , formatted it already
[16:46] <shivani> :D
[16:46] <Kion> shivani: ok good!
[16:46]  * shivani goes to file a bug for startup disk creator :P
[16:47] <Kion> ntzrmtthihu777: Yes, I understand, I did not know the existance of that tool, and I am only giving my own past experience
[16:48] <jacki> what does it mean ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5817285/
[16:48] <zonne> hi
[16:48] <pfifo> ohh yay, dist-upgrade is updating the kernel -_- my favorite... But onto my question, i use 'command | tee -a somefile.log' to log stuff (like apt-get dist-upgrade in this case) but it would be great if it also logged the command I ran, is there a way todo this?
[16:48] <zonne> i am a new ubuntu user
[16:48] <Kion> zonne: Welcome
[16:48] <zonne> and i need help learning how to install utorrent for downloads
[16:48] <zonne> hi, thanks
[16:48] <Kion> zonne: for torrents, use Transmission, it works perfect
[16:49] <zonne> so for example
[16:49] <zonne> i go to a movie download site and it asks me what application i want to choose
[16:49] <zonne> then i choose transmission?
[16:50] <Kion> zonne: yo can open the software center and search for transmission, then click on install button
[16:50] <Kion> zonne: that is it!
[16:50] <zonne> ok will try that thanks
[16:53] <deanrock0> what is the best way to move ubuntu settings/apps to new installation?
[16:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> !cloning | deanrock0
[16:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> deanrock0: plus .files in ~ containing configs :P
[16:54] <deanrock0> yeah, i will copy my /home partition
[16:54] <deanrock0> what's the difference between aptitude export and dpkg --get-selections?
[16:55] <sb2130> hii
[16:56] <chro> hi, I have a cluster with 6 machines, how can I make my home to mirror through all machines ?
[16:56] <david_> Hey i have an usb that in properties says Contents :  totalling 40,1 MB, but only 105,7MB free when its 2 gig
[16:56] <Kion> david_: you probbably have partitions on that USB
[16:56] <david_> dafuq
[16:56] <Kion> david_: have you opened it with gparted?
[16:57] <david_> Yeah, single partion fat32, says used 913mb in gparted tough
[16:58] <david_> just deleted a large file on it, ejected and re inserted it
[16:59] <fjodor> sagmal kann man dieses computrace/anti-theft mit linux nutzen?
[16:59] <deanrock0> how should you know if you are ready to leave windows and use linux as the only OS? :)
[16:59] <suore> fjodor, #ubuntu-de
[17:00] <Znoosey> deanrock0, the day you don't play games that only work on windows and have stopped using microsoft office
[17:00] <gregmark> deanrock: when you both hate windows and are willing to get your hands dirty
 had to empty trash lol, linux stores trash on ascociated drives o.O ?
[17:00] <Catalystic> windows doesent even have windows anymore :)
[17:01] <gregmark> deanrock: Ubuntu is easy, relative to other Linux distros. You have to put in work to make it do exactly what you want.
[17:01] <deanrock0> i hate windows since i first tried linux, rarely play games and don't need MS office
[17:01] <deanrock0> still i just can't make myself delete my windows installation
[17:01] <Catalystic> windows8?
[17:02] <david_> main reason that makes me keep mine is gamemaker not running on linux :(
[17:02] <deanrock0> gregmark: i've been using linux on/off since 2004 so do know a bit about it :)
[17:02] <Catalystic> i think MS should be sued because calling a windowless system windows is missleading
[17:03] <tutti> one question, is xubuntu the most "light" ?
[17:03] <bazhang> !ot | Catalystic
[17:03] <bazhang> tutti, lubuntu is
[17:03] <david_> Im gonna go install xubunto on my laptop know, only used ubunto before. Will i get lost?
[17:03] <Kion> david_: Thanks for reporting, now we know!
[17:03] <bazhang> !lubuntu | tutti
[17:03] <bazhang> !manual | david_ have a read
[17:04] <deanrock0> windows 8 has windows ... but they are hidden :)
[17:04] <tutti> so, should I install it? my netbook has an old intel atom and windows xp.
[17:05] <someguy> Hi, does someone know how to get a vmlinux file that hasn't been stripped ?
[17:05] <bazhang> tutti, sure. it will be fast on that system
[17:05] <david_> lubunto is basically xubunto using less ram
[17:05] <holstein> tutti: try them live... see for yourself.. should be great
[17:05] <bazhang> david_, thats not correct
[17:05] <lgl> is anybody familiar with usbhid quirks? I don't know which flags to use
 shit was it kubunto?
[17:06] <tutti> beacause Xbunutu (yes, actually i have xubuntu) is not bad but on Firefox, youtube is not fluid
[17:06] <bazhang> david_, no cursing here
[17:06] <praveen__> ??
[17:07] <bulgaria> somebody from bulgaria?
[17:07] <bazhang> !bg | bulgaria
[17:08] <purezen> Hey guys..! I recently bought a Dell Vostro 5460 and did a fresh install of 12.10 on it.. I face an issue of extremely low sound output from the machine.. something which has not been reported from the Windows running ones.. Please help..!
[17:08] <purezen> Other Linux users of the same have also reported the same issues..
[17:08] <bazhang> purezen, check in alsamixer that PCM is set to around 80
[17:09] <purezen> bazhang: Well.. did that.. but it was already at 100..
[17:09] <david_> Does anyone know any cool halftransparent backgrounds for teminal?
[17:10] <david_> I used to have a blue one but cant find it on the web
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> david_  set a picture to half transparent (alpha), then make it your background
[17:10] <purezen> Guys.. that doesn't help..!
[17:11] <purezen> bazhang: !
[17:11] <david_> Yes but i meant cool backgrounds designed with alpha masks
[17:11] <sasha-> O hai
[17:11] <david_> I had a cool one before had semitransparent lines
[17:12] <adamk> smallfoot-: Figure out your problem?
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> david_  my suugestion stands, find a cool background and set alpha to 50% or so
[17:12] <sasha-> I'm having a bit of an issue here. I installed Ubuntu on my dad's computer several months ago, and it works much faster and it's easier for me to manage.
[17:12] <sasha-> However, he does not like to use LibreOffice, saying that there are a lot of features missing… so he wants me to get Word back
 No that will give the same alpha on the entire pic
[17:13] <bazhang> !appd | sasha-
[17:13] <sasha-> now, I'm not too keen on this, but I was going to either install it with Wine or dual-boot with Windows 7
[17:13] <bazhang> sasha check out the winehq appdb
[17:13] <bazhang> !appdb | sasha-
[17:13] <sasha-> wait, I'm not finished :P
[17:13] <bazhang> sasha-, then /join #winehq
[17:14] <sasha-> yes but I need help deciding whether it is worth switching to wine/windows or staying under ubuntu
[17:14] <sasha-> maybe there's something like Gimpshop for LibreOffice
[17:14] <bazhang> sasha-, checking the appdb to see how well it runs will be a factor in that decision
[17:14] <bazhang> sasha-, there isnt
[17:15] <Kion> sasha-: usually there arent any features missing, you just need to know where they are
[17:16] <NSA_AGENT> how can i change my location in ubuntu. i had it set to china and as a result some things display in chinese text instead of english
[17:16] <NSA_AGENT> most things are in english but things related to dates show up in chinese. so id like to switch my location back to america
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> NSA_AGENT  system settings, language support, regional settings
[17:17] <Guest52974> I'm running samba 3.6.3 and need it to be "open", any computer can connect to it. Itsin my house as a file server for XBMC so secuity isn't an issue
[17:18] <NSA_AGENT> MonkeyDust,  do you know of a way to do it in the terminal ?
[17:18] <Guest52974> I'm running samba 3.6.3 and need it to be "open", any computer can connect to it. Itsin my house as a file server for XBMC so secuity isn't an issue. I want to share 2 ntfs partitions
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> NSA_AGENT  is this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale/
[17:19] <NSA_AGENT> MonkeyDust,  thanks
[17:21] <tux248> My friends are connected to my terminal using putty and is learning shell. I want to monitor their commands ?
[17:21] <tux248> is there a way to do it..
[17:21] <jrib> tux248: you can share a screen or tmux session
[17:21] <sindri> Anyone running vsftpd successfully? Followed set-up on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/vsftpd but only recieve "Connection failed" when running "ftp localhost"
[17:22] <tux248> jrib: hmm.. ok
[17:22] <Kion> sindri: did you open the ports on your firewall?
[17:23] <adamk> tux248: If you just want to see what they were doing after the fact, check their users .bash_history
[17:23] <david_> Does anyone know a yumi linux alternative?
[17:23] <sindri> Kion: oh stupid me, no I haven't changed ufw - thanks :D
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> david_  unetbootin, multisystem
[17:24] <Kion> sindri: There you go, ufw is not very clear to me, I rather use iptables directly
[17:24] <tux248> adamk: i made them connected through my own account (i know its unsafe), is there a way to see their commands now without making them reconnect ?
[17:25] <Kion> tux248: I think your commands get logged in auth.log check there.
[17:25] <Seegee> Hey guys... Does anyone know how I can assign a sort of "reference number" to an iptable rule so I can easly delete it at another tiem?
[17:25] <adamk> tux248: Check that users .bash_history file.
[17:25] <adamk> tux248: Oh, your own account..  Check your .bash_history file.
[17:26] <Kion> Seegee: Sudo iptables -I XX rule...... where XX is the order of the rule
[17:26] <Seegee> Kion, I want to assign it some sort of number when I create the rule
[17:27] <Kion> Seegee: the rules are numbered according to their position, you can latter reference bye table and rule #
[17:27] <Seegee> Well, I am trying to create a PHP script that will create rules, and store them in a database so it can later delete them...
[17:28] <Seegee> How would the script know the order...
[17:28] <abc12345cba> When trying to install 13.04, the installer "hangs" when trying to get the time from the network time server. Anyone any suggestions on how to bypass this?
[17:28] <tux248> adamk: ok
[17:29] <tux248> adamk: yup it works thanks :)
[17:30] <abc12345cba> I should also say that the internet connection on the machine is fine.
[17:30] <tux248> adamk: is their a way to load "cat bash_history" dynamically on change :P
[17:30] <tux248> adamk: do that i don't have to do it over and over again..
[17:31] <adamk> No idea.
[17:32] <Seegee> Well, I am trying to create a PHP script that will create rules, and store them in a database so it can later delete them...
[17:32] <Seegee> How would the script know the order...
[17:33] <deanrock0> Seegee: order of what?
[17:34] <deanrock0> Seegee: if you need them ordered by how you inserted them just add incremental ID
[17:35] <fakebutt> hello people
[17:36] <reisio> hi fakebutt
[17:36] <reisio> what's goin' on?
[17:37] <fakebutt> I have a question, more like looking for an advice
[17:38] <Kion> fakebutt: go on
[17:38] <fakebutt> I have an old PC with a dead HDD and I was thinking if ubuntu 12.04.2 can run as a live CD and if it has installed a browser with flash
[17:39] <czz> hellopat, my system clock doesnt seem to want to update, how can I force it to update?
[17:39] <auronandace> fakebutt: firefox is on the livecd by default, not sure about flash though
[17:40] <auronandace> fakebutt: running ubuntu from livecd tends to be rather slow though
[17:40] <Kion> Seegee: try sudo iptables -L -vn --line-numbers
[17:40] <Kion> and you will see the numbering of rules
[17:41] <fakebutt> I know it is slow from a live cd... but I will be giving my laptop for repairs and I need a working PC for a week or two
[17:42] <fakebutt> I think I have an old 6;5 GB HDD somewhere in the house but I'm not sure if it still works and If it will be enough to install the OS on it
[17:42] <auronandace> fakebutt: yes, it will fit if you don't install a lot
[17:42] <reisio> fakebutt: how about a 5GB+ USB stick?
[17:43] <akurilin> Looks like my ~/.profile is not sourced when I ssh into a remote ubuntu instance. Is there anything special I need to do to get that triggered?
[17:43] <reisio> akurilin: is it ~/.profile or ~/.bash_profile?
[17:44] <fakebutt> i have only a 2GB usb stick :/
[17:44] <akurilin> reisio, .profile and there is not .bash_profile under ~
[17:44] <akurilin> *no
[17:44] <reisio> fakebutt: you could get an 8+GB for maybe $20
[17:44] <Vec_> Aprox how much space does a ubuntu server 13.04 require?
[17:44] <reisio> akurilin: what does 'help | head -1' say?
[17:45] <reisio> Vec_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Ubuntu_Server_.28CLI.29_Installation
[17:45] <Vec_> reisio: Thanks
[17:45] <akurilin> reisio, GNU bash, version 4.2.25(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
[17:46] <fakebutt> I can also get an old hard drive for the same price but don't see the point in the investment since i will be needing it for 2 weeks
[17:46] <orated> Hello! Is this the right location for kernel headers - /usr/src/ ? I'm looking for C header files matching running kernel ...
[17:46] <ikonia> orated: they aren't installed by default
[17:46] <reisio> akurilin: bash uses ~/.bash_profile IME
[17:46] <ikonia> orated: if you install the kernel source package they will get installed in /usr/src/$kernel-version
[17:46] <reisio> akurilin: not ~/.profile
[17:47] <reisio> orated: dpkg -l | grep -i header; dpkg -L packageVersion
[17:47] <reisio> packageName, eben
[17:47] <orated> ikonia: I can see linux-header-3.8.0-25 and -generic in /usr/src/
[17:48] <p3mulis_work> Hi everyone- does anybody know I can change the session timeout when using xrdp on ubuntu desktop? It does not use xrdp.ini
[17:48] <ikonia> orated: there you go then
[17:48] <fakebutt> I can try to install arch linux on the old HDD (because it's very light) but I am not that experienced and just know that will spend 2 nights of following tutorials and failing, so I decided it's better to try a live cd with ubuntu
[17:49] <ikonia> fakebutt: how is a livecd experience relevent to an arch install ?
[17:49] <orated> ikonia: But an application I'm running searches for C header files matching the running kernel, which it fails to find for path /usr/src/linux-header-3.8.0-25. I'm not sure why
[17:49] <fakebutt> it's way easier to use in mu case
[17:49] <ikonia> orated: what is your running kernel
[17:50] <orated> ikonia: 3.8.0-25-generic
[17:50] <ikonia> orated: ok so your headers are there then
[17:50] <fakebutt> thanks for the talk and suggestions
[17:50] <fakebutt> :)
[17:50] <fakebutt> and bye
[17:51] <orated> Yes, I'm not sure why C header files are not found there. ikonia
[17:51] <ikonia> orated: who says they are not ?
[17:51] <orated> by the application.
[17:51] <ikonia> orated: what header are you looking for ?
[17:51] <akurilin> reisio, odd, I rename the file to .bash_profile for testing and that didn't get sourced either when I sshed in
[17:52] <reisio> akurilin: what ssh client are you using?
[17:52] <akurilin> reisio, OpenSSH_5.9p1 Debian-5ubuntu1.1, OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[17:53] <akurilin> reisio, I also have tmux running as well, not sure if that breaks things
[17:53] <reisio> easy way to find out
[17:53] <akurilin> reisio, honestly I could just cram everything into .bashrc
[17:54] <Vec_> It makes sense to me to partition my disk to part1. system files, part2. storage. Is there some glaringly obvious reason for me to be using the /home and /srv that the system provides for sharing files ect. instead of just creating dir's in the part2. storage and sharing from there?
[17:54] <ikonia> Vec_: it's totally user preference
[17:54] <Vec_> ikonia: ok great, 100% newb over here so i'll go with that partitioning scheme because that makes sense to me ^^
[17:56] <david_> Does anyone know if the lightwight ubunto distros, xubunto, lubunto etc differ in boot time from ubunto?
[17:56] <ikonia> david_: they shoud be in the same ball park for most people
[17:57] <ikonia> david_: the os is called "ubuntu" - not "ubunto" make sure you get it right to get the right distro
 yeah i know, i misspell it all the time :/
[18:00] <harrumph> what's the command to upgrade the distribution from shell?
[18:00] <ikonia> !upgrade | harrumph
[18:00] <suore> sudo apr-get upgrade ?
[18:00] <harrumph> thanks
[18:00] <ikonia> no
[18:01] <Vec_> Im confused. If i have partition1 mounted on /, then partition2 mounted on /srv - will the files i place within /srv only exsist on partition2 or will it also exsist on partition1 because /srv lies under / ?
[18:01] <ikonia> it is not sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:01] <ikonia> Vec_: it will only exist on partition 2
[18:01] <Vec_> ikonia: Nice, thanks.
[18:01] <ikonia> Vec_: so if you don't mount partition 2 after mounting partition 1 - you will see an empty directory
[18:01] <Vec_> ikonia: that makes sense
[18:06] <ikonia>  7 7
[18:10] <reisio> ikonia: I concur
[18:11] <marawan2> #wine
[18:13] <Kelsey_> Something has happened to my font, only certain letters will mess up. Like t's and stuff and in it's place is like black and blue boxes
[18:13] <Kelsey_> Can someone help me out?
[18:13] <Kion> Does Ubuntu support having integrated graphics and a dedicated card, and switch between them according to demand?
[18:14] <reisio> Kion: in some situations
[18:14] <ikonia> Kion: the optimus graphics chipset you mean ?
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> Kelsey_:maybe you can upload a screenshot on tinypic of your issue?
[18:14] <ikonia> Kion: or do you mean an onboard and a physical card
[18:14] <Kion> Well I hate Mac OSX and hava a macbook pro, I installed Ubuntu and it seems it is running with high graphics all the time
[18:14] <Kion> it gets hot
[18:15] <ikonia> Kion: yeah, you're not going to have a fun expereicne trying to get dynamic/on demand graphics changing working on that
[18:16] <Kion> ikonia: so that is what i am getting?, Ii is running on the physical card all the time? ok
[18:16] <ikonia> Kion: pretty much yes
[18:16] <Kion> still worth it
[18:16] <Kelsey_> http://i42.tinypic.com/2say14k.png
[18:16] <Kion> ikonia: Everything works I would say even better than with osx
[18:16] <ikonia> Kion: you can force it to run on one or the other, without problem, or you can try to setup the dynamic switching, but honest opinion, you'll never get the results you want with the dynamic setup
[18:17] <Kion> ikonia: How do you force it
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> Kelsey_: that looks like garfix card disformed screen issue
[18:17] <ikonia> Kion: you have to tell it to use either the intel graphics driver or the nvidia one in the xorg.conf file
[18:17] <Kelsey_> Do you know how to fix it?
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> Kelsey_: did you install grafix card drivers correctly?
[18:17] <Kion> ikonia: in my case it is not nvidia, the hardware is Radeon
[18:18] <ikonia> Kion: ah, my apologies, it's normally nvidia
[18:18] <Kelsey_> I'm pretty sure. It just started this today and I've had ubuntu for at least a week or so I think.
[18:18] <Kion> ikonia: no problem...
[18:18] <Kion> thanks
[18:18] <Kion> I will check my xorg.conf
[18:18] <Kelsey_> Yeah, and it shows up weird in the chat when I type, but on the actual chat, it's fine.
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> Kelsey_:what grafix card chipset?
[18:18] <Kelsey_> How do you check?
[18:18] <ikonia> Kion: you'll probably need to create one, as it will be dyanmic by defaut
[18:19] <zykotick9> Kelsey_: from terminal try "lspci -v | grep -i vga"
[18:19] <Kion> ikonia: Ok I will see what I can do...
[18:20] <Kelsey_> 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C51 [GeForce Go 6150] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[18:22] <Kelsey_> How can I update my care?
[18:22] <Kelsey_> card?
[18:24] <cgtdk> Kelsey_: What card?
[18:24] <Kelsey_> 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C51 [GeForce Go 6150] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[18:24] <Seegee> Hey guy,I have another question, when I run netstat -plan|grep :80|awk {'print $5'}|cut -d: -f 1|sort|uniq -c|sort -nk 1 to see connections to my http server, it says one guy has 120 connections
[18:24] <Seegee> but it still shows he has connections
[18:24] <Seegee> I tried dropping his IP
[18:24] <Seegee> but it still shows he has connections
[18:24] <FloodBot1> Seegee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:24] <ikonia> Seegee: how are you droppping his ip
[18:25] <Seegee> iptables -A INPUT -s 195.128.1.78 -j DROP iptables -A OUTPUT -d 195.128.1.78 -j DROP
[18:25] <ikonia> Seegee: that won't drop existing connections
[18:25] <Seegee> that is how ikonia
[18:25] <cgtdk> Kelsey_: Do you wish to update its driver to one not in the repository yet?
[18:25] <Seegee> How can I stop it?
[18:26] <flcl> hi all
[18:26] <ikonia> Seegee: you'll need to stop apache
[18:28] <Kelsey_> I think I figured it out, but I have to change it, cause it's doing this. http://i42.tinypic.com/2say14k.png
[18:28] <flcl> i have two hdds with ubuntu + win7(8) installed on each of them, after every loading  windows 8 and rebooting I got >grub resque console
[18:28] <flcl> always
[18:28] <flcl> why can it be happened?
[18:29] <Silvaar> Can you login to either Ubuntu or Windows?
[18:30] <flcl> after resquing using root prefix and insmod commands i can see grub menu, but only old ubuntu can be loaded
[18:30] <Seegee> ikonia, they are stil, here...
[18:30] <Silvaar> So you want to dual boot with Grub?
[18:30] <Nahledge> Hey does anyone here know how to configure the controllers on Mupen64Plus ?
[18:30] <ikonia> Seegee: 1.) stop apache 2.) do a netstat verify they have gone 3.) start apache 4.) verify they have not come back
[18:31] <ikonia> Morph4me: mupen 64plus ?
[18:31] <Seegee> Some are still here in the netstat when its stopped ikonia...
[18:31] <Seegee> They are slowling dieing
[18:31] <ikonia> Seegee: ok, at that point are there any apache processes still running ?
[18:31] <flcl> when i load ubuntu and execute boot-repair menu beacame work fine but only till first windows loading and rebooting
[18:31] <Seegee> no
[18:32] <Seegee> There are still alot of connections open though...
[18:32] <Silvaar> flcl: You need to fix the bootloader in Grub through Ubuntu.
[18:32] <ikonia> Seegee: I suspect it will take a few minutes for them to all expire
[18:32] <Silvaar> flcl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[18:32] <Seegee> Ok, and then what?
[18:32] <ikonia> Seegee: hang on - what are you classing as an open connection ?
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> flcl, post the bootinfo summary6 from the app the last one.
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> summary*
[18:32] <Seegee> netstat -plan|grep :80|awk {'print $5'}|cut -d: -f 1|sort|uniq -c|sort -nk 1
[18:32] <Seegee> whatever shows up there
[18:33] <ikonia> Seegee: who gave you that ?
[18:33] <Seegee> ikonia, a friend of mine...
[18:33] <ikonia> Seegee: that's not going to work
[18:33] <Seegee> Almost all connections are dead now
[18:33] <ikonia> Seegee: that's not a vaid way to confirm apache connections
[18:33] <Seegee> what is
[18:34] <ikonia> Seegee: if you do a netstat -a | grep ESTAB you'll see esablished connections
[18:34] <Seegee> WEll for now, I am just doing connections on port 80
[18:34] <flcl> wilee-nilee: who to get "bootinfo summary"?
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> flcl, When you run the bootrepair it makes a bootinfo summary and gives you a http, to post, you can run just it do that and poet it.
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> post*
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> flcl, A popup tells you that address when you run it.
[18:36] <Seegee> Apparently, a bank is attadcking my server xD
[18:36] <Seegee> http://195.128.1.78/home/html/index.en.html
[18:36] <ikonia> Seegee: I doubt that a lot
[18:36] <flcl> yeah i remember something like that
[18:36] <Seegee> Probably spoofed
[18:36] <ikonia> Seegee: no, probably not attacking you
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> flcl, Heh, and it tells you to save it.
[18:37] <Seegee> It had 400 connections open
[18:37] <ikonia> Seegee: how are you checking that
[18:37] <Seegee> The command I just sent
[18:37] <Seegee> It shows connections on port 8-
[18:37] <Seegee> 80
[18:37] <Pici> Seegee: are you looking at inbound or outbound connections on port 80?
[18:37] <ikonia> Seegee: and I just told you - that is not a valid way to check connections
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> flcl, A 1000 times better for diagnosing then a description.
[18:37] <flcl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5817572/
[18:38] <ikonia> Seegee: what is the point of making these statements when I've just told you that's not verifying connections
[18:38] <Seegee> Can you tell me what that is doing?
[18:38] <foggy> you touch my ta-la-la my din-din-don))
[18:38] <ikonia> foggy: please don't do that
[18:39] <ikonia> Seegee: man netstat to see that -plan options do - then it's just some regex to tidy up the output
[18:39] <foggy> okey)
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> flcl, Are any of the installs clones of each other?
[18:40] <flcl> no
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> flcl, Cool, kind of a strange setup first for windows install they should be the first partition on the disc for easy access. hold on.
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> flcl, So you want grub to boot all the OS right?
[18:43] <flcl> newer ubuntu and win8 only will fine too
[18:43] <flcl> i load others with vmdx virtualbox projection
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> flcl, Not sure what you mean here these are all partitioned installs grub will cover all of them. Can you explain what you mean by, " vmdx virtualbox projection"
[18:48] <Seegee> xEon_
[18:48] <flcl> when am in ubuntu and need to use win7, I start virtualmachine where hdd is not an image file but link to physical partition
[18:48] <Xeon_> Seegee
[18:48] <Seegee> xEoN_ shutup
[18:48] <Xeon_> why can't i paste on paste.ubuntu.com
[18:48] <flcl> but it doesnt work with win8
[18:48] <Xeon_> yes it does
[18:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> flcl: what doesnit work on win8?
[18:48] <pfifo> is aes built into the kernel or is it aa module?
[18:49] <Xeon_> module
[18:49] <flcl> when i trying to run windows8 client in ubuntu host where windows8 is on physical partiotion it doesnt works
[18:50] <pfifo> from what package does aes get installed?
[18:50] <flcl> client=guest
[18:50] <Xeon_> just rm -rf it
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> flcl, You have a set up that is a bit past a few users maybe on the irc. I would go to the ubuntu forums, post a bootinfo summary that shows what it is right now, and screen shots of gparted looking at both HD's and explain exactly how you have the setup running.
[18:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> Xeon_: as much as I like to see win$ get pwned, thats just downright hostile.
[18:51] <Xeon_> no dude, just rm -rf * the whole thing
[18:51] <Xeon_> works like a charm
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> flcl, What I suspect the way you are running this is out of not really understanding the easiest and best way to have this all setup.
[18:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> Xeon_: posting malicious commands is liable to get you kickbanned
[18:52] <caboose885> Xeon_: rm -rf is very powerful. Anyone using it should be careful
[18:52] <Xeon_> its not as powerful as fallocate
[18:52] <gndlp> what is fallocate?
[18:53] <Xeon_> i use it on hostgator all the time!
[18:53] <Xeon_> its a great command
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> !who | Xeon_
[18:53] <Seegee> It really is...
[18:53] <Xeon_> LOL
[18:53] <Xeon_> no
[18:53] <Xeon_> !who
[18:53] <Xeon_> aw
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> !enter | Xeon_
[18:53] <Xeon_> what
[18:53] <Xeon_> do
[18:53] <Xeon_> you
[18:53] <Xeon_> mean
[18:53] <FloodBot1> Xeon_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> Xeon_: bots gonna get you
[18:54] <theadmin> Xeon_: Please stop suggesting commands which might have unintended side effects. We have newbies here.
[18:54] <bazhang> he's gone
[18:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: bit late :P bazhang took care of it :P
[18:54] <Seegee> Try rm -rf /*
[18:54] <NotMario> hey
[18:54] <bazhang> Seegee, stop that now
[18:54] <NotMario> Hey how are you guys?
[18:54] <NotMario> I need some help
[18:54] <NotMario> HEY I NEED SOME EHLP
[18:54] <theadmin> NotMario: Just ask the question
[18:54] <NotMario> WITH UNBUNTU
[18:54] <FloodBot1> NotMario: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> Seegee: unless you pass a certain option to that it won't totally ruin you :P
[18:55] <rogeclash> hello buddies i need some help with my sound card
[18:55] <gndlp> !
[18:55] <flcl> wilee-nilee: maybe all questions can be reduced to these: how windows bottloader works and why it breaks grub
[18:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> geeze, did a bot just ban him?
[18:55] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Kicked. That's new though...
[18:55] <rogeclash> i cant see my sound card in the settings
[18:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> flcl: cuz it overwrites the mbr, I thinks. boot-repair fixes grub after windows breaks it, however.
[18:56] <rogeclash> when i aws configuring to listen to 5.1 it friozen and now i can see it
[18:56] <rogeclash> but when i a log in as a guess i can
[18:56] <rogeclash> kind of weird
[18:56] <flcl> ntzrmtthihu777:  yes it fixes but after every rebooting windows kill grub again
[18:56] <gndlp> flcl: I have always wondered how to fix mbr after windows install
[18:57] <resure_> What is correct way to install 319-series video-drivers on ubuntu 12.04? I've added ~ubuntu-x-swat ppa, but there are no package like nvidia-319
[18:57] <rogeclash> any help buddies
[18:57] <Nach0z> resure_: very carefully :|
[18:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogeclash: if only your user has this probelm it must be a per-user issue, copying the guest .files from ~ should copy most settings over.
[18:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogeclash: but this is just speculation :P
[18:59] <rogeclash> ok
[18:59] <gndlp> ntzmtthihu777:  .files has scripts for startups apps and things like that on a per user basis right?
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> flcl, Heh, that is your problem, you have your cart before your horse, you have a hackneyed setup, and just need to get it write or be able to explain exactly what you have there. All you should of done is have the windows in the first partitions and then the linux. Then have one of the ubuntu installs controlling the boot and its grub bootloader in the mbr and have that HD first read in the bios. TH
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> e windows bootloader is not tthe problem here, it is not in any mbr.
[18:59] <rogeclash>  <ntzrmtthihu777>  i am new in ubuntu how can i do this
[18:59] <flcl> gndlp: as Silvaar said https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot  but think it need to reinstall windows
[19:00] <gndlp> flcl: that makes since thats what i have always done. However I was always wondering if there was a better way
  i am new in ubuntu how can i do this
[19:01] <gndlp> rogeclash: do you know basic file commands in terminal?
[19:01] <rogeclash> well yes i know how to access to terminal and some basic
[19:01] <flcl> wilee-nilee: sometimes boot-repair advises me to have 200mb partitions before all of oses
[19:01] <flcl> *partition
[19:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogeclash: first off, save yourself some time. type ntz, then hit tab :P
[19:02] <flcl> for grub as i understood
[19:02] <SofS> how to allow users to add/remove printers without giving them access to <Location /admin> within cups.conf?
[19:03] <rogeclash> ntzrmtthihu777: p
[19:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogeclash: lol, I was making an emote. just teaching you to not type my whole name :P
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> flcl, Go to the ubuntu forums as I said, this is beyond a IRC fixing session, honestly my other advice is to backup all of it and install correctly.
[19:03] <marawan2> does wine work with lubuntu (gnome)
[19:04] <gndlp> rogeclash: okay so login as guest cd .files from the home dir and use cp to copy that stuff to a thumb drive then go back to your account and then rename your old .files dir to .filesbkup and cp the guest .files dir into yours
[19:04] <marawan2> or only ubuntu unity
[19:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> flcl: best advice I could give you is if you *must* dual boot, windows *first*. otherwise a vm is damn nice :P
[19:04] <gndlp> rogeclash: after you mkdir a new .files
[19:04] <auronandace> marawan2: wine works best when not using a compositing window manager
[19:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> marawan2: wine works in all linux, barring certain special situatioins.
[19:05] <marawan2> auronandace: explain please, what is a window manager
[19:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> auronandace: why not a compositing wm?
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, His setup is really screwed up, don't encourage them.
[19:05] <auronandace> ntzrmtthihu777: join #winehq and read the /topic
[19:05] <marawan2> auronandace: i am using lubuntu newest version (13.04)
[19:05] <gndlp> 777: ever use codeweavers?
[19:05] <auronandace> marawan2: yes wine will work fine there
[19:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> gndlp: nope, just playonlinux and wine solo. I've even scripted for POL :P
[19:06] <marawan2> auronandace: so is there a specific version to download for my DE
[19:06] <auronandace> marawan2: no
[19:06] <marawan2> auronandace: thanks!
[19:06] <gndlp> 777: wow well played sir
[19:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> gndlp: what?
[19:07] <flcl> thanks all much, my problem is level of my knowledge i ll read some then probable move win partitions to the start of disk
[19:07] <flcl> *probably
[19:07] <gndlp> 777: you have scripted for POL nice
[19:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> auronandace: I see nothing explicitly about compositing wms in the /topic, or are you pointing me to the faq?
[19:08] <gndlp> 777: wish I could do that
[19:08] <rogeclash> gndlp: ok gonna try it
[19:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> gndlp: not for POL the program, but an installer script for pol's use. its not really that hard, just a matter of translating the options you know work manually to an automated bash script.
[19:08] <gndlp> rogeclash: do you feel comfortable with it?
[19:09] <rogeclash> gnp as i dont know ubuntu at all i think i need to do some research
[19:09] <auronandace> ntzrmtthihu777: sorry, seems the topic has changed, they used to warn about compiz and kwin
[19:09] <rogeclash> gndlp:  as i dont know ubuntu at all i think i need to do some research
[19:09] <gndlp> rogeclash: Linux is something you can screw up really easiily if you dont need that pc go ahead and try! but be prepaired you might screw something up but either way you will leanr
[19:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> auronandace: izzat so. I personnally got the *only* thing I like from compiz in the form of a wmctrl script, so its moot point for me
[19:10] <resure_> Are nvidia 319 drivers exist only in unstable repos like xorg-edgers?
[19:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> gndlp: geeze, scare the crap outta him why dontcha.
[19:10] <gndlp> 777: ahhhh i see what you mean
[19:10] <gndlp> 777: hhahah I dont want to force a beginner into ruining an install!
[19:10] <SonikkuAmerica> resure_: You should use nvidia-current if you can, unless you have Optimos
[19:10] <SonikkuAmerica> *Optimus
[19:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> gndlp: not the program itself (its all python and I know none) but the installler for the windows program.
[19:11] <rogeclash> gndlp: it is so weird cause as a guest i have it and also before i log in as my user
[19:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogeclash: how new is this install?
[19:11] <rogeclash> gndlp: stil i can hear the sound although
[19:11] <resure_> SonikkuAmerica, nvidia-current is driver that can be installed from control panel, right?
[19:11] <rogeclash> ntzrmtthihu777:  is the new ubuntu 13.02
[19:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogeclash: I mean how long have you had it on this pc? how much stuff has accumulated?
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> there is no 13.02
[19:12] <gndlp> rogeclash: its 13.04
[19:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: ignore the obvious typo.
[19:12] <SonikkuAmerica> !13.04 | ro
[19:12] <SonikkuAmerica> !13.04 | rogeclash
[19:12] <Nach0z> 13.04? that was fast.
[19:13] <rogeclash> ntzrmtthihu777: just for acouple of days
[19:13] <SonikkuAmerica> resure: If it's not there it's in the PPA ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates, but be careful with PPAs.
[19:13] <m0nk3yjoe> Hello
[19:13] <rogeclash> ntzrmtthihu777: couple of days
[19:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> test
[19:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, lost connnect for a bit.
[19:13] <gndlp> rogeclash: that is way odd what did you do man?!?!?! lol
[19:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogeclash: have you installed alotta stuff yet?
[19:14] <resure_> SonikkuAmerica, thanks
[19:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogeclash: are you even slightly familiar with the terminal?
[19:14] <rogeclash> ntzrmtthihu777: well some stuff but i guess i could do it again the problem is if i have the same problem again, i was doing some research on google but not luck
[19:14] <gndlp> 777: he said he knew basic file cmds
[19:15] <SonikkuAmerica> Nach0z: 13.04 is 04/2013
[19:15] <rogeclash> ntzrmtthihu777: yes i have download through the terminal some stuff
[19:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogeclash: do you have pastebinit installed?
[19:15] <rogeclash> ntzrmtthihu777: i dont think so
[19:15] <gndlp> 777: if you dont have anything to lose on that machine dont be afraid to ruin it I mean you can always start over
[19:15] <gndlp> that was for rogeclash
[19:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogeclash: install it with sudo apt-get install pastebinit, then run the following two commands and give me the urls.
[19:16] <rogeclash> ntz
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> gndlp, You can tab complete nicks
[19:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> gndlp: thats a windows philosophy, lol.
[19:16] <rogeclash> ntzrmtthihu777: ok thank you
[19:16] <gndlp> wilee-nilee: thanks lol
[19:17] <gndlp> ntzrmtthihu777: hahahaha
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> gndlp, No problem, ;)
[19:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogeclash: now, run for me "ll ~/ | pastebinit" and the same for the guest home folder, or the other way around depending on whether you are or are not logged in as guest. do you understand?
[19:18] <SofS> this is my cups.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/5821623/ changed users and printer admins groups names as a precaution, as is users can not add/remove printers
[19:19] <akurilin> What is the recommended way to make sure a drive is always mounted on an ubuntu server?
[19:19] <gndlp> i gtg getting busy at work cheers all
[19:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> akurilin: fstab, I suppose :P
[19:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> gndlp: later
[19:19] <Crawford> when I try adding ppa repos with add-apt-repository, it always times out when requesting the key
[19:19] <gndlp> ntzrmtthihu777: later
[19:19] <Crawford> Anyone know what to do about that?
[19:19] <rogeclash> ntzrmtthihu777: yes i m doing it
[19:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> Crawford: is you connection crap?
[19:20] <cuddylier> How do I unrar a rar file using 'unrar' so that the folder structure remains when unrared?
[19:20] <enigmuri_> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[19:20] <enigmuri_> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
[19:20] <enigmuri_> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[19:20] <Crawford> 50Mbps fiber to the home...
[19:20] <enigmuri_> i get that every time i install something. how do i fix it?
[19:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> cuddylier: unrar x, I think. or unrar e. unrar --help will tell you.
[19:20] <Crawford> ntzrmtthihu777: but it is running in a virtualbox vm...
[19:20] <cuddylier> ntzrmtthihu777 I tried e and it didn't retain the folder structure
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> Crawford, YOu can save the key from the ppa, and add it in software sources, make sure the ppa is covering your release.
[19:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> Crawford: try changing the dns server?
[19:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> cuddylier: that should tell you to try x ;)
[19:21] <cuddylier> yeah :D
[19:22] <cchivers> Hey. I've been having a lot of unresponsive behaviour lately on my 12.04 install on a zenbook.
[19:22] <rogeclash> ntzrmtthihu777: i got the firts url shall i send it through here
[19:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogeclash: yes.
[19:22] <rogeclash> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5821872/
[19:22] <rogeclash> ntzrmtthihu777:
[19:22] <rogeclash> now i suppose i have to do the same andf log in in the guest
[19:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, and the guest one? rogeclash not sure about that, does /home/guest or /home/Guest exist?
[19:23] <Crawford> wilee-nilee: it's the nodejs ppa...pretty sure it is
[19:23] <rogeclash> ntzrmtthihu777: so im gonna log in in the guess and coming back here, i got my user wich is roge and then guess i am in roge now
[19:23] <cchivers> Lots of programs hang for a few seconds periodically (every other minute or so). When it happens nothing, there doesn't seem to be anything hogging system resources.
[19:24] <ikonia> cchivers: i/o lag ?
[19:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> cchivers: i hate clueless issues :P. I love a good error message, lol, gives me google food :P
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> Crawford, Go to its webpage and check, being "pretty" sure is not really adequate, at least to me.
[19:24] <Crawford> wilee-nilee: it does
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> Crawford, The webpage will provide the key as well.
[19:25] <cchivers> ikonia: ya, it could be something like that. I've got iotop running and I don't see anything unusual.
[19:25] <ikonia> cchivers: is it one sort of program, or just anything at all
[19:25] <cchivers> ntzrmtthihu777: I would have loved that too. That's why I came here ;)
[19:26] <Crawford> wilee-nilee: I know I can manually add it, but I'd like to resolve this problem & not work around it
[19:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> symptomless diseases are the most horrifying
[19:26] <tannji> cchivers,  my 12.04 did that as well.... especially with anything connected to the internet.  almost entirely gone with 13.04
[19:26] <cchivers> ikonia: Seems to happen to just about any program
[19:26] <ikonia> so are pointless comments such as that
[19:26] <ikonia> cchivers: could you give me an example of one you notice it on
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> Crawford, Cool, I would contact the thw maintainer then.
[19:27] <gregor3005> hi, does anybody know a good sound player under linux which can overlap two sounds, or were i can make some "rewinds" like in some dancehall sessions or bars, i hope somebody know what i mean
[19:27] <Crawford> wilee-nilee: happens with all ppa repos
[19:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> gregor3005: audacity?
[19:27] <cchivers> ikonia: Firefox, thunderbird - but also things like starting up a terminal...
[19:28] <ikonia> cchivers: ok - so that does sound like a little bit of I/O lag, or maybe even just a bit of visual lag with video card drivers, what video card do you have ?
[19:28] <kristenbb> I  have a process (rhythmbox) marked as 'D' in ps. I cant kill it. I can't start another instance either. What option do I have (without restarting) ?
[19:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> cchivers: do you have any special kernel modules compiled for a usb wifi card? I had same issue with dlink dwa160 once.
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> Crawford, Hmm, that is strange, not sure where to start then, details of what has led you here are important as well any tweaks to your web access like proxies...etc.
[19:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> kristenbb: sudo killall rhythmbox?
[19:29] <kristenbb> ntzrmtthihu777: doesn't work
[19:29] <cchivers> ikonia: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[19:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> kristenbb: htop + F9 kill?
[19:29] <ikonia> cchivers: ok, so the intel stuff should work pretty solid, so that's good
[19:29] <SofS> am I in the wrong channel?
[19:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> SofS: depends.
[19:29] <ikonia> cchivers: I'm assuing your using a standard hard disk, nothing like an SSD, or fiber disk
[19:29] <cgtdk> SofS: depends
[19:29] <cchivers> ntzrmtthihu777: don't think so. It was pretty plug and play on installation.
[19:29] <ikonia> cchivers: also is this a laptop or a desktop
[19:30] <kristenbb> ntzrmtthihu777: well this is all the same result, it sends a signal to the process, but since it's in deep sleep, it's not hearing it... so it doesn't work either.
[19:30] <Crawford> wilee-nilee: no proxies...it's ubuntu 12.04 lts w/3.8 kernel running in virtualbox
[19:30] <cchivers> ikonia: laptop. with ssd. It's and asus ultrabook.
[19:30] <cgtdk> SofS: What are you looking for?
[19:30] <cchivers> *an
[19:30] <ikonia> cchivers: ooo an ultra book, I wonder if that like is the power scaling "waking up"
[19:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> kristenbb: ah. well I know you can use the F9 kill in htop to send different signals
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> Crawford, Ah that kernel is not supported to begin with in 12.04
[19:30] <SofS> which one for CUPS configuration like I asked previously?
[19:31] <ikonia> cchivers: power scaling is pretty agressive on a lot of ultrabooks, I wonder if there is the lag, just scaling up to launch
[19:31] <cchivers> ikonia: It's weird. I've had it for a while, but the problems have been pretty recent.
[19:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> SofS: ah. apparently no one present knows the answer atm.
[19:31] <SofS> oh, I see... ty anyway
[19:32] <ikonia> cchivers: an update or some sort may have had an impact on the power management, (obviously this would need to be investigated)
[19:32] <cchivers> ikonia: hmm, ya. Any suggestions for what to look into?
[19:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> SofS: technically cups is apple software, maybe more info in that direction? I have it, but I am the sole (human) user on this machine, so these are not issues for me.
[19:32] <ikonia> cchivers: couple of things, maybe worth consideration
[19:32] <cchivers> ikonia: Thanks, btw.
[19:33] <Crawford> wilee-nilee: and you think that's related to this issue?
[19:33] <ikonia> cchivers: look at disabling power management possibly, look at monitoring things like CPU speed see if you see it scale up/down and see if that ties in with your lag.
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> Crawford, Hard to say, but that setup is not supported here using that kernel.
[19:35] <cchivers> ikonia: Check. Before any power management fiddling, I have been keeping a close eye on CPU, memory, IO, and it doesn't look like any of it is going wild when the non-responsiveness happens.
[19:35] <ikonia> cchivers: how are you monitoring cpu speed ?
[19:35] <ikonia> cchivers: that's the most likely candidate for up/down scaling lag
[19:36] <cchivers> conky
[19:36] <ikonia> cchivers: does that show the cpu speed or just usage ?
[19:36] <SofS> ntzrmtthihu777: is there another printer server for linux besides CUPS?
[19:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: it shows whatever you want it to, lol. its all a giant luascript, irrc
[19:37] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: I know what it is, but I don't know how cchivers has it configured, hence why I'm asking
[19:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> SofS: not that I am aware of.
[19:38] <cchivers> ikonia: both. But I just realized that I was paying no attention to speed (frequency).
[19:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> SofS: cant new users be added to the cups group or something?
[19:38] <ikonia> cchivers: that's the thing I suspect maybe possibly causing that moment of lag as it scales up before using it
[19:39] <rogeclash> ntzrmtthihu777:  thisis the other one http://paste.ubuntu.com/5824704/
[19:39] <cchivers> ikonia: it seems to bounce between 800 and 1701 MHz
[19:39] <ikonia> cchivers: ok, so that is quite agressive scaling
[19:40] <cchivers> ikonia: This is interesting, I had no idea to even look at that.
[19:40] <econdudeawesome> Hello all. I am trying to get a Brother HL-2170W laser printer to work. I've installed the drivers, and now have a "Waiting for printer to become available" status in CUPS. What do I need it to do to get it working?
[19:41] <econdudeawesome> (I forgot to mention: Ubuntu 12.04)
[19:41] <SofS> ntzrmtthihu777: the group thing is already sorted out via pam/ldap and is working, the config I posted even lists local shared network printers for @users and they can print on them, problem are special cases where @users members have to add/remove one
[19:41] <ikonia> cchivers: it used to be a common problem with older celeron style processors, and some of the ultra books suffer with it too
[19:41] <cchivers> ikonia: How would I dissable power management to test that behaviour?
[19:41] <ikonia> cchivers: again, just an early investigation suggestion, but it looks like it's worth more research in that area
[19:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> if this is wrong someone say so. "rm -r /usr/roge/.*" as guest (assuming permissions let you do it),
[19:42] <ikonia> cchivers: power management if possible should be disabled in the bios, if not you'll need to do it at the link error
[19:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> wait, not done.
[19:42] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: it's wrong
[19:42] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: I would suggest that you move instead of delete
[19:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> if this is wrong someone say so. "rm -r /usr/roge/.*" as guest (assuming permissions let you do it), "cp -r ~/.* /home/roge/"
[19:42] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: I guess it depends what you are trying to do
[19:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: moving ~/.dir into /home/roge/.dir will result in /home/roge/.dir/.dir
[19:43] <cchivers> ikonia: Okay. Well I can google around and do some experimenting with that info. Might be back in a bit. Ty again for your help.
[19:43] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: ok?
[19:43] <ikonia> cchivers: welcome.
[19:43] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: maybe you should say what you actually want to accomplish
[19:43] <ikonia> cchivers: keep in mind this may not be the problem - just a good candidate with some info to back it up
[19:43] <freewarrior> anyone experience with syncevolution?
[19:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: sound works fine as his guest account, but not as his main, roge. so, it must be a difference in a per-user config file, which tend to be in ~/.* files and folders.
[19:44] <cantelope> Good afternoon all. I am trying to change the md# of a linuxraid set on my Ubuntu system. I tried to follow this, but it does not seem to work: http://superuser.com/questions/346719/how-to-change-the-name-of-an-md-device-mdadm
[19:44] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: sorry - that's just silly
[19:44] <cantelope> When I reboot, the array still gets it's original md#
[19:44] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: you're just randomly doing things not even knowing where the config is
[19:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: *shrug* someone else give him a better answer then. no one has yet.
[19:44] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: research the correct config file - move it out of the way and try to recreate
[19:45] <cchivers> ikonia: Check.
[19:45] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: rather than delete all the . files in his home directory
[19:45] <rogeclash> ntzrmtthihu777: sounds also works in user but i cant see the sound card and also manage the volumen just through the software that plays music
[19:45] <sindri> Best place to turn for vsftpd help?
[19:45] <ikonia> sindri: the vsftpd channel ?
[19:46] <sindri> ikonia: thanks, didn't know there was one :D
[19:46] <Whitor> join #Ubuntu-offtopic
[19:46] <Whitor> woops sorry
[19:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> sindri: there is a channel for most every thing :P
[19:46] <reisio> it's true, /join #everything
[19:48] <wbf> Hello everyone I'm having trouble with my keuboard
[19:48] <irreverant> test
[19:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> => nil
[19:48] <wbf> and no it's a ddriver issue
[19:48] <econdudeawesome> I keep getting a "Waiting for printer to become available" issue with my printer (ubuntu 12.04). What do I do?
[19:48] <irreverant> econdudeawesome: using cups?
[19:49] <bennypr0fane> hellopat, I need some help choosing the right printer driver form this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~michael-gruz/+archive/canon-stable/+packages . The thing is, on that launchpad page, it lists a package that is not available to me in apt-get or Synaptic. I need a driver for my Canon Pixma MX350. For most of the printer models here, there are *3* packages listed, e.g.: cnijfilter-mx360series, cnijfilter-mx360series-32; cnijfilter-mx360series-64 1.) what ab
[19:49] <bennypr0fane> out the one that doesn't specify the architecture? 2.)  for my model MX350 there is only the non-specific one and 32. My system is 64bit. I'd like to find out why there's no 64bit build and what that means in terms of which driver I need to use. If I do a search in Synaptic for cnijfilter-mx350, only the 32bit packages shows up
[19:49] <wbf> I have a tactx keyboard. tried pyalienfx. nothing!
[19:49] <econdudeawesome> irreverant: yes
[19:49] <bennypr0fane> apt-cache search lists them both though: ~$ apt-cache search cnijfilter-mx350series cnijfilter-mx350series-32 - IJ Printer Driver for Linux. cnijfilter-mx350series - IJ Printer Driver for Linux.
[19:50] <econdudeawesome> irreverant: I've installed the brothers driver via their bash script, printer appears to be recognized by Ubuntu. But any job sent says "waiting for printer to become available
[19:51] <econdudeawesome> "
[19:51] <gerst> .
[19:51] <Seveas> ,
[19:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> ;
[19:51] <Seveas> with your powers combined, I am captain punctuation!
[19:51] <wbf> I'm having an error with the ubuntp pastebin...
[19:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> well, its super late for me. later all, hope you all solve your issues.
[19:52] <wbf> ubuntu*
[19:52] <Seveas> wbf: then try another one, like bpaste.net
[19:54] <liklewise> running livecd shows my 3 partitions of ubuntu 1 (system) 2 (files) 3 (swap) some how the 1 partition got bad and i need to reinstall ubuntu, how can i do that from the live cd?
[19:54] <irreverant> econdudeawesome: is that the only message you receive?
[19:54] <ikonia> liklewise: same way you installed it in the first place
[19:54] <mst1228> hi. i'm trying to setup http streaming audio from a headless Ubuntu 12.04 box.
[19:54] <liklewise> ?
[19:55] <ikonia> liklewise: how did you install ubuntu the first time ?
[19:55] <mst1228> i'm currently trying to use icecast2 and darkice to capture and stream the PulseAudio stream
[19:55] <econdudeawesome> irreverant: yes. I receive no specific error messages. I only see that by looking at the job queue. For further information: its connected USB, I did not set it up for network printing
[19:55] <Vec_> Hm, i can't get my SSH keys to work. I used puttygen to generate a keypair, i kept the private one on my laptop and put the public one on  ~/.ssh/authorized_keys/<key>.pub   --   I tell putty to use my private keyfile when logging in. I get the connection open and enter username then press enter. What happens next: "Disconnected: No supported authentication methods available (server sent:
[19:55] <Vec_> publickey)   -  what gives?
[19:56] <Seveas> ikonia: I guess the question was too difficult
[19:56] <mst1228> darkice is throwing an error: Unknown PCM pulse
[19:56] <ikonia> Vec_: that's not where the key goes
[19:56] <liklewise> is there a way?
[19:56] <ikonia> Vec_: you put the contents of the public key in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file
[19:56] <mst1228> i'm pretty new to Linux/Ubuntu, can someone let me know if this sounds like the right path?
[19:56] <Seveas> Vec_: ~/.ssh/authorized_keys is a *file*, not a directory
[19:56] <Vec_> o really
[19:56] <rogeclash_> hello any help my computer doesnt detect the sound card but i can listen to music but  the volumen is frozen
[19:57] <Vec_> so i just have to rename my public key to "authorized_keys" and place it in ~/.ssh/ ?
[19:57] <ikonia> Vec_: I'm not sure where you are getting your information/guides from - as you where having problems earlier which seemed a bit odd
[19:57] <Vec_> ikonia: I guess i try to do too much on my own without the proper knowledge
[19:57] <ikonia> Vec_: no, you put the contents of your public key into authorized_keys - it can contain more than 1 key
[19:57] <ikonia> Vec_: where are you getting this information/guide from ?
[19:57] <Seveas> Vec_: yes, and make sure ~/.ssh and its contents are only accessible by yourself
[19:57] <ikonia> Vec_: as Seveas said (permissions 600)
[19:58] <kristenbb> I  have a process (rhythmbox) marked as 'D' in ps. I cant kill it. I can't start another instance either. What option do I have (without restarting) ?
[19:58] <liklewise> im trying to fix a broken installation, gparted dont recognize the partition table, says is one empty space, but fdisk says otherwise, how can i reinstall ubuntu on the partition it used to be from live cd?
[19:58] <Seveas> kristenbb: 'D' means (most likely) hanging in I/O, are your disks breaking down?
[19:58] <kristenbb> no
[19:59] <kristenbb> so what to do from here?
[20:00] <Seveas> find out why it's in D state. What was it doing?
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> liklewise, Using the something other option a manual install make the mount / and tick format on that partition.
[20:01] <econdudeawesome> irreverant: another oddity -- when I try to change the driver the "apply" option is greyed out
[20:01] <kristenbb> Seveas: well I don't know, reading files for music I guess.
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> kristenbb  from the ps man-page : " D    uninterruptible sleep (usually IO)"
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> liklewise, I assume this is a standard ext4 not a lvm am I right?
[20:01] <cchivers> ikonia: would you recomment using indicator-cpufreq to control the frequency scaling?
[20:02] <kristenbb> MonkeyDust: so how to interrupt an uninterruptible sleep ?
[20:02] <ikonia> cchivers: not used that in a while, so don't know how solid it is
[20:02] <ikonia> cchivers: someone else in here maybe a regular user of it and know if it's any good
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> kristenbb  i guess it's similar to a zombie process, you can't kill a zombie
[20:03] <kristenbb> MonkeyDust: if you use a silver bullet yes you can
[20:03] <Seveas> kristenbb: where was it playing from? NFS mount or USB stick that went away?
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> kristenbb  that's for vampires ;)
[20:03] <kristenbb> Seveas: no just a hard drive i think, but i'm not sure
[20:03] <Seveas> if so, you may be lucky if you put that back. Otherwise: reboot.
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> cchivers, I use that app works fine, however I have not followed your posts, so not sure how it relates.
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> kristenbb  anyway, I just read you can't aunch another instance, that's odd
[20:04] <kristenbb> Seveas: what does reboot do ?
[20:04] <Seveas> MonkeyDust: the hanging instance will hold a lock
[20:04] <Seveas> kristenbb: get rid of the process :)
[20:04] <kristenbb> Seveas: how
[20:04] <bennypr0fane> hellopat, can anybody help with my Canon printer driver issue?
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> kristenbb  try kill -9
[20:04] <Seveas> because reboot gets rid of all processes...
[20:04] <kristenbb> MonkeyDust: I tried it.
[20:05] <Seveas> MonkeyDust: kill -9 can't kill D state
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> hm
[20:05] <cchivers> wilee-nilee: I am experiencing some lag across several programs which ikonia thinks *might* have to do with overly agressive scaling.
[20:05] <kristenbb> Seveas: but how does it get rid of all processes.
[20:05] <Seveas> maybe the audio locked up. Can you play sounds with something else?
[20:05] <kristenbb> Seveas: yes i can.
[20:05] <DJones> kristenbb: Reboot shuts the computer down and reboots it
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> kristenbb  try killall
[20:05] <kristenbb> DJones: how does it shut it down
[20:05] <Seveas> kristenbb: please read a computers 101 book if you don't know what a reboot does.
[20:05] <kristenbb> MonkeyDust: i've tried it, it doesn't work.
[20:06] <kristenbb> Seveas: you don't get my point, i'm just trying to figure out what reboot does that i couldn't do.
[20:06] <Seveas> MonkeyDust: none of that will work, the kernel won't send the signal to the process
[20:06] <Seveas> kristenbb: it wipes all state
[20:06] <Seveas> memory empty, processes gone
[20:06] <kristenbb> Seveas: how does it do that?
[20:06] <Seveas> kristenbb: are you trolling?
[20:07] <kristenbb> Seveas: no I just mean to say, does it send some signal of some sort?
[20:07] <kristenbb> Seveas: you're saying that the reboot process means killing all active processes, how does that work?
[20:07] <kristenbb> Seveas: could I not do it myself?
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> kristenbb  first reboot to solve the issue
[20:08] <Seveas> a reboot is two parts: userland shutdown, sending signals to all processes that will respond (which is not enough for this one) and finally the kernel telling the computer to start from scratch, wiping all memory and starting like the power was gone.
[20:08] <kristenbb> Seveas: I do not mean hard reboot, like cutting the electricity wire, but really a software reboot. If it works, then I don't see why I couldn't kill this process without actually restarting
[20:08] <Crawford> wilee-nilee: Ok...fresh install of 12.04...same issue
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> kristenbb  for now, never mind how it works
[20:09] <Seveas> there is no such thing as a 'software reboot'.
[20:09] <Silvaar> Crawford: what's the issue?
[20:09] <kristenbb> so how do I get rid of this process ?
[20:09] <Seveas> now do the damn reboot and enjoy your music.
[20:09] <Crawford> Silvaar: add-apt-repository timing out when requesting keys for PPAs
[20:09] <Silvaar> kill -9 [pid]
[20:09] <kristenbb> i can't reboot right now, this is used as a server as well.
[20:10] <Silvaar> Oh... I had a similar issue....
[20:10] <Seveas> so? servers need to be rebooted too...
[20:10] <Crawford> Silvaar: running in virtualbox, btw
[20:10] <Silvaar> Yeah, me too.
[20:10] <Silvaar> Only with 12.x though
[20:10] <Crawford> ok spill it! wtf's the fix?!
[20:10] <Silvaar> 10 and 13 work
[20:10] <Silvaar> I'm trying to think...
[20:10] <kristenbb> is there some way to know what this process is waiting for ?
[20:11] <Silvaar> kristenbb: you can look for child/parent processes
[20:11] <Seveas> yes, it's waiting for you to reboot
[20:11] <studious> Crawford: install ssl
[20:11] <kristenbb> Seveas: i'm looking for a solution that doesn't imply rebooting.
[20:11] <Morph4me> agrees with Seveas
[20:11] <_jay> hey all, lately I can't play dvds, vlc gives me this error http://www.pasteall.org/43687
[20:11] <Silvaar> Crawford: I'd agree with studious. That's a good start.
[20:11] <Seveas> kristenbb: it's right next to the golden pony
[20:11] <studious> Crawford: remove proxy
[20:12] <Silvaar> And do the obvious stuff
[20:12] <Crawford> studious: openssl?
[20:12] <kristenbb> if it's waiting for I/O, what file is it trying to access ?
[20:12] <Silvaar> Check networking
[20:12] <_jay> I've inslalled the recommended libs from various forums
[20:12] <Nick119119> hey guys! Is there anything similiar to sticky keys in ubuntu?
[20:12] <Seveas> just reboot. If your server really can't be down, you're doing it wrong.
[20:12] <Silvaar> ARe you doing a local VM or an enterprise vm?
[20:12] <econdudeawesome> irreverant: any idea?
[20:12] <Crawford> Silvaar: local
[20:12] <Silvaar> VMWARE?
[20:12] <DJones> Nick119119: There are sticky keys for Ubuntu
[20:13] <Silvaar> Crawford: What I'm getting at is check your networking from the hypervisor side.
[20:13] <Nick119119> I'm trying to play minecraft but I'm having this really annoying issues with the keys continuing to press themselves even after I let go, and it's making me rush forward into lava pits and stuff
[20:13] <Crawford> Silvaar: virtualbox & I have
[20:13] <DJones> Nick119119: Its a minecraft bug
[20:13] <Silvaar> Crawford: whether it's NAT or directly connected to the physical network. I've had issues with NAT and sharing LAN connections in the past.
[20:13] <Nick119119> It is? I've never encountered it in the 2-3 years Ior so I've been playing
[20:13] <kristenbb> Is there a way to know which file a given process is trying to access ?
[20:13] <DJones> Nick119119: Rumoured to possibly be fixed in 1.6 released around now
[20:13] <econdudeawesome> Anyone have any idea why CUPS in Ubuntu 12:04 would give a message "Waiting for Printer to become available"?
[20:14] <Silvaar> Because then you have to take  your local firewall/proxy/etc.. into consideration
[20:14] <Crawford> Silvaar: I'll see if that changes things in a few...ssl first. installing ssl means libssl, yes?
[20:14] <Silvaar> Local to your host machine.
[20:14] <Silvaar> apt-get install open-ssl
[20:14] <Nick119119> It's doing it really heavy, like every few seconds. Even making me randomly jump around. And, my mouse isn't staying focused on the screen, it'll go off to the sidebar
[20:14] <Seveas> Silvaar: openssl, not open-ssl :)
[20:14] <Silvaar> Bah!
[20:14] <Silvaar> What Seveas said!
[20:14] <Silvaar> =_
[20:14] <Silvaar> =)
[20:14] <FloodBot1> Silvaar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:15] <Seveas> now you angered the bots, better give them a cookie
[20:15]  * Silvaar gives all the bost cookies.
[20:15] <|XiFy|> Is this the place to get help with Ubuntu?
[20:15] <|XiFy|> mreg
[20:15] <Seveas> |XiFy|: if you're lucky :)
[20:16] <Silvaar> It is a place. That's for sure.
[20:16] <DJones> Nick119119: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/134703-linux-stuck-keys-solution/ Its due to an old version of LWJGL that minecraft ships, they're supposed to be updating to a new version in the 1.6 release http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
[20:17] <Crawford> studious: installing openssl = no dice
 So google is a better place?? ;)
[20:17] <Silvaar> Crawford: installing openssl didn't work; or you were unable to install openssl?
[20:17] <Seveas> |XiFy|: try here, and if we fail: try google
[20:17] <iceroot> |XiFy|: yes is is the place for ubuntu technical support, if you have a question please feel free to ask
[20:18] <Crawford> didn't work
[20:18] <akurilin> Should I be mounting external NAS drives under /media or /mnt?
[20:18] <Seveas> akurilin: whatever you want.
[20:19] <Seveas> I tend to use /mnt to give Ubuntu free reign over /media
[20:19] <Silvaar> Crawford: Try removing the proxy
[20:19] <akurilin> Seveas, ok thanks, makes sense.
[20:19] <Crawford> what proxy are you refering to?
[20:19] <[zork]> hello world !
[20:19] <Seveas> [zork]: watch out, we have grues.
[20:20] <Silvaar> Crawford: your internet proxy
[20:20] <Silvaar> Firewall... iptables... whatever it is you're using.
[20:20] <econdudeawesome> Do apparmor and CUPS conflict?
[20:20] <|XiFy|> After I have installed the driver for the AMD Radeon HD 5000, and after the restart I'm not getting in to the GUI Login
[20:20] <Seveas> econdudeawesome: they shouldn't.
[20:21] <DYSW> akurilin: /user/media/ is were i mount them. but the other location could work too
[20:21] <|XiFy|> Any answers on that?
[20:21] <Seveas> |XiFy|: how did you install those drivers?
[20:21] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: I'm trying to figure out why my printer is giving me the issue "Waiting for Printer to become avialable"
[20:21] <Crawford> Silvaar: I run a pretty loose dev setup. There's no firewall :P
[20:21] <Silvaar> |XiFy|: What do the logs say?
[20:21] <Silvaar> Crawford: same thing. What do your logs say?
[20:21] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: Here is the log dump of the last few lines when I unplug and plug in my printer: http://pastebin.com/Y7ZzcQbF
[20:21] <Seveas> econdudeawesome: well, have you tried rebooting with apparmor disabled?
[20:22] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: It might be the encrypted home directory maybe?
[20:22] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: Im not sure how to reboot with apparmor disabled
[20:23] <Seveas> econdudeawesome: yes, looks like it. What on earth is cups doing in there?
[20:23] <Seveas> can you pastebin your printers.conf?
[20:23] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: just cat printers.conf?
[20:23] <|XiFy|> How to I get out some log of it? Becouse I'm just using the drivers that's popups after the installation.. Proper drivers or what it called
[20:24] <Silvaar> |XiFy| Well if X is crashing there's obviously some sort of log going with it.
[20:24] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: link: http://pastebin.com/0KGMWLbX
[20:24] <Silvaar> |XiFy| Could be a whole host of things. Could be your resolution is out of sync with the monitor.
[20:24] <Silvaar> X is picky.
[20:25] <Seveas> econdudeawesome: and ls -la /etc/cups/ppd
[20:27] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: this is the output I think: http://pastebin.com/Mm9igKHT
[20:27] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: is the issue that I don't have permissions set up correctly?
[20:28] <|XiFy|> I have 2 computers, with almost the same specs. The monitors are new and shouldent have noting to say or?
[20:29] <Seveas> econdudeawesome: no, the issue is that cups is looking at your homedir, which it shouldn't. Do you have cups-pdf installed?
[20:30] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: I dont know.
[20:30] <heikoo> does grep have a logical and? (piping grep into grep doesn't really work with -A, -B and -C)
[20:30] <luist> anyone familiar with multistrap?
[20:30] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: currently installing
[20:30] <Seveas> econdudeawesome: no, you don't want that
[20:30] <Seveas> cups-pdf is incompatible with apparmor, so I thought that was it
[20:30] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: ill uninstall/purge then
[20:31] <duelle> Hi there, I set up a dns server with ubuntu server 13.04. The server can ping all clients I assigned a name to and clients get the correct IP if I use dig. But if I try to ping a client from another client I get an "unknown host" error.
[20:31] <ikonia> duelle: look at what dns servers your resolver is set to and what dns server dig is using
[20:31] <Seveas> econdudeawesome: hmm, you said brother printer, right?
[20:32] <ikonia> duelle: also look at if you are using hte FQDN or just the hostname, you may need to append the "search" string to your resolver
[20:32] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: yes
[20:32] <paul___> hello
[20:32] <Seveas> yeah, I see some notes in the apparmor config about brother. Where did you install the drivers?
[20:33] <duelle> ikonia: My resolv.conf contains first my "internal" self-setup dns IP and after that there is my Router for the internet stuff. As far as I know the resolv.conf is automatically generated isnt it? How can I append something permanently?
[20:34] <ikonia> duelle: don't forget ubuntu uses dnsmasq - not a straight resolver setup in /etc/resolv.conf
[20:34] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: just the default from their website, ran the bash script. When that didnt work I gave the foomatic CUPS driver a go, and same result.
[20:35] <duelle> ikonia: I tried to setup everything via tutorial .. but didn't see anything mentioning dnsmasq..
[20:35] <ikonia> duelle: which tutorial ?
[20:35] <Seveas> econdudeawesome: try removing apparmor and apparmor-profiles and rebooting
[20:35] <ikonia> Seveas: where is this dodgy apparmor config coming from (only half following)
[20:36] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: I have no idea how to do that other than uninstalling. Is that how I should go about it? Won't this cause some huge issues? :/
[20:36] <duelle> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/serverguide/dns-configuration.html and used another I don't have the link anymore.. just used it to understand some stuff better.
[20:36] <Seveas> econdudeawesome: yes, uninstalling. Make sure that doesn't uninstall anything else
[20:36] <econdudeawesome> ikonia: I'm trying to troubleshoot a printer issue Im having
[20:36] <liklewise> is there a way to access from livecd a home encrypted folder?
[20:36] <Seveas> (it shouldn't, I'm running apparmor-free without problem)
[20:37] <ikonia> duelle: ok - thats how to setup the server, but your client is the problem here
[20:37] <ikonia> duelle: what ip address is your bind server running on
[20:37] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: how exactly do I uninstall apparmor and apparmor-profiles -- are these the specific packages I need to remove?
[20:37] <Seveas> liklewise: there is, but I don't remember how :/ search the ubuntu wiki for ecryptfs recovery
[20:37] <duelle> ikonia: 192.168.100.1
[20:37] <Seveas> econdudeawesome: correct.
[20:38] <netit1> I need help setting up a secondary public bind server... anyone know a good site to explain this or have a minute chat?
[20:38] <ikonia> duelle: please type "nslookup" then "server 192.168.100.1"
[20:38] <ikonia> duelle: at that point try to resolve one of your hostnames
[20:38] <econdudeawesome> Seveas and if I get it to work, should I reinstall apparmor? I'm hesitant to remove sercurity...
[20:38] <Seveas> ikonia: from the cups package. It has coments about there being no known structure for Brother drivers, and I don't speak apparmor enough to actually grok the rules included because of it.
[20:38] <ikonia> Seveas: just looks a bit sloppy half following your conversation
[20:39] <Seveas> econdudeawesome: if that works, it's a good indication apparmor is breaking things for you and we can work on fixing that. If it still doesn't work, apparmor wasn't the problem :)
[20:39] <duelle> ikonia: Server and address are resolved correctly - but theres an error message: server can't find server: NXDOMAIN
[20:39] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: so I uninstall apparmor -- how to remove apparmor-profiles?
[20:39] <Seveas> apt-get remove apparmor-profiles
[20:39] <Seveas> removing apparmor might have done that already.
[20:39] <Seveas> dpkg -l '*apparmor*'
[20:39] <ikonia> duelle: can you pastebin the whole process of "nslookup" "server 192.168.100.1" then the ookup
[20:40] <ikonia> duelle: also 192.168.100.1 sounds like your router address, are you sure that's the right ip address (just checking)
[20:40] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: it wasn't installed. So I need to restart then?
[20:40] <Seveas> econdudeawesome: yeah
[20:41] <duelle> ikonia: Ok, theres no error message if I enter it step by step - sorry that I musunderstood. Using it step by step there is the correct server IP and address. If I use "nslookup myhost.domain" the correct IP of another client is returned. And yes, the IP 100.1 is the correct one.
[20:42] <ikonia> duelle: ok - so that's good, we know your dns server is working fine, it's your client looking at the wrong place
[20:42] <netit1> I need help setting up a secondary public bind server... anyone know a good site to explain this or have a minute chat?
[20:42] <luist> can anyone help me with multistrap? I'm trying to add my custom repository/package , but its not working. This is the config file: http://pastie.org/8101130
[20:42] <ikonia> duelle: next test, exit the shell, open a new shell and do "nslookup" then try to resolve a client, (don't set the server 192.168.100.1 this time)
[20:43] <motaka2> hello when i ctrl+c on dir and then i right click on /var/www the paste option is disabled
[20:43] <Nach0z> motaka2: might not have permission maybe?
[20:43] <Seveas> luist: http://update.metasys.com.br/repository/free/ubuntu/5.0/ 404's
[20:43] <motaka2> Nach0z: how can I check that ?
[20:44] <luist> Seveas: yes thats an internal url
[20:44] <duelle> ikonia: I get the correct IP of that host, but its weird that the server is mentioned as 127.0.1.1
[20:44] <motaka2> i have  sudo chmod -R 777 /var/www
[20:44] <Seveas> luist: that makes it rather hard to check the repo for errors...
[20:45] <luist> Seveas: under that, comes dist pool db and conf
[20:45] <ikonia> duelle: that's not weird, don't worry, that's the dnsmasq setup of the client
[20:45] <luist> Seveas: you can check 4.0 instead.. its similar
[20:45] <Nach0z> motaka2: I have no idea then, sorry :/
[20:46] <Seveas> luist: keyring=ubuntu-keyring.gpg is almost certainly wrong for a custom repo
[20:46] <luist> Seveas: the repository works fine for updates… i want to get packages from it to build the image
[20:46] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: Im back. Let me check the cups
[20:47] <duelle> ikonia: Ok, but the problem persists. Ping still does not work although dig and nslookup seem to resolve correctly :/
[20:47] <luist> Seveas: well the gpg from the custom repo is here: http://bach.metasys.com.br/repository/free/ubuntu/4.0/dists/5014/Release.gpg
[20:47] <Fionnghall> How to fix bug with ibus in 13.04?
[20:47] <Seveas> luist: so what's the error you get with multistrap?
[20:47] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: Still the same status, "Waiting for Printer to Become Available"
[20:47] <ikonia> duelle: ok - thats not massivly surprising, a nslookup forces use of the name server, ping will use whatever libresolv is set to do
[20:47] <Seveas> Fionnghall: download the source code, fix the bug, compile the code.
[20:48] <ikonia> duelle: so when you use ping do you just ping the hostname, or ping the fully qualiied domain name
[20:48] <Seveas> econdudeawesome: so apparmor wasn't the problem, or at least not the entire problem
[20:48] <duelle> ikonia: fqdn
[20:48] <Fionnghall> Seveas, I update all, but bug is exist.
[20:48] <ikonia> duelle: is your name server a name server for your local domain, or is it setup to forward to the internet too ?
[20:49] <Seveas> duelle: ikonia: ping also looks at /etc/hosts -- dig/nslookup don't. Maybe the problem is in there?
[20:49] <Fionnghall> Seveas, This bug happens when I run gedit.
[20:49] <luist> Seveas: the output (std+err) is this: http://pastie.org/8101162
[20:49] <ikonia> Seveas: there shouldn't be host entries for his network in /etc/hosts, but yeah, it's worth checking
[20:49] <duelle> ikonia: ikonia it is kind of a custom router I set up to learn something about dhcp/dns/... So it is set up for my local domain and should forward to the internet.
[20:50] <sindri> Any ideas why I get "Connection Refused" when running "telnet localhost" at port 21. While UFW tells me that port is allowed
[20:50] <duelle> ikonia: If i ping the hostname only the ping goes through..
[20:50] <ikonia> sindri: because an ftp daemon is not running on port 21
[20:50] <Seveas> luist: looks like something is sticking files in /var/run - make it stop doing that.
[20:50] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: where do you recommend I look now?
[20:50] <Tamara_Br> hi all... does anybody know if I can use a smartv as monitor using a network connection? like wireless, with no hdmi cable?
[20:50] <ikonia> duelle: so if you ping client.domain.com it fails, if you ping client it works
[20:50] <Morph4me> econdudeawesome :  you said you did it the bash way have you tried just using .debs from brother ?
[20:50] <sindri> ikonia: Thanks for direction, will look into it :)
[20:51] <Seveas> econdudeawesome: what Morph4me said. I have no experience with Brother printers, so am at the end of my ideas.
[20:51] <luist> Seveas: uh? in the host?
[20:51] <duelle> e.g. I have a hostname for an AP (name=ap) so if i ping ap.domain it fails; if I ping ap only it works fine.
[20:51] <Seveas> luist: in the fresh chroot
[20:52] <ikonia> duelle: I suspect your domains are not terminated properly then or your search/domain path is set wrong
[20:52] <luist> Seveas: how do i know what is doing that...
[20:52] <ikonia> duelle: do you have any entries in /etc/hosts ?
[20:52] <Seveas> luist: check what's in there
[20:52] <duelle> ikonia: on the dns server or the clinet?
[20:52] <ikonia> duelle: on the client
[20:52] <lbspen> hello, I'm having trouble connecting my iphone 5 (iOS 6.0.1) to ubuntu 12.04
[20:52] <Seveas> luist: /var/run in Ubuntu shoyld be a symlink to /run, so some package install scripts try to clean that up and things fail.
[20:53] <reisio> lbspen: to do what?
[20:53] <duelle> ikonia: just 127.0.0.1 on localhost, 127.0.1.1 on the hostname of the client and some ipv6 stuff
[20:53] <lbspen> I want to download files off my phone.
[20:53] <luist> Seveas: ubuntucustom_12.04/var/run/lock seems to be busy
[20:54] <econdudeawesome> Morph4me: I've tried both
[20:54] <lbspen> When I connect the first time after reboot shotwell and I think nautilus comes up
[20:54] <ikonia> duelle: ok, so either a.) the search or domain string in your resolver config is not setup correctly on the client (normally offered by dhcp) or your domains are not terminated properly on the dns server in the zone files. If you look in the bind logs you'll possibly see entries like the following
[20:54] <ikonia> duelle: hostname.domain.com.domain.com
[20:54] <ikonia> duelle: instead of hostname.domain.com
[20:54] <lbspen> but once I download a file, neither nautilus or shotwell show devices
[20:55] <reisio> lbspen: use bluetooth
[20:55] <ikonia> duelle: check the bind logs and see what the queries are actually coming through as
[20:55] <lbspen> my computer doesn't have bluetooth
[20:55] <Morph4me> econdudeawesome: i only said that cause i noticed your printer pointing to foomatic and not cups in your pastebin
[20:55] <econdudeawesome> Morph4me: fair enough
[20:56] <luist> Seveas: how can i stop that? do i have to chroot into the new filesystem?
[20:56] <econdudeawesome> So I have removed apparmor, and now when I look at the tail of the log file I get NO input when I unplug/reinsert the printer USB cable. What could this indicate?
[20:56] <Seveas> luist: I don't know what your custom packages are doing, but I'm betting the problem is in one of them.
[20:56] <xjkx> I installed tightvncserver and when I run the server, it like creates a new enviorment for me, I mean, when I connect with the viewer from another pc, it's not like I am controlling what is being seen in the machine, its like everything is happenning in background. But I want to see, and modify what is going on in the logged in session, what am I doing wrong ?
[20:56] <lbspen> reisio: lsusb doesn't list my iphone
[20:56] <luist> Seveas: they arent even being installed
[20:57] <luist> Seveas: plus the only custom package defined only installs a text file in /etc which does nothing
[20:57] <Vec_> !ssh-server
[20:57] <Vec_> !ssh
[20:57] <ikonia> Vec_: whats the actual question
[20:57] <Seveas> luist: ok, then please paste the entire output of a clean run (so, wipe the chroot, start from scratch and pastebin all the output)
[20:58] <Vec_> ikonia: No questions, i need to find a guide i can follow step by step because for some reason its gosh darn impossible for me to get ssh keys working
[20:58] <ikonia> Vec_: https://help.ubuntu.com has many links and guides, as does https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[20:58] <duelle> ikonia: I can't find a specific bind-log. syslog contains some entries with "named" as prefix. There are some errors because I disabled the "forwarders" but nothing with such duplicated hostnames.
[20:58] <ikonia> duelle: you should have setup logging channels in your bind config
[20:59] <ikonia> duelle: and that should log queries and therefore you'll see if it's terminating domains correctly
[20:59] <econdudeawesome> Can anyone think of why a printer plugged into a usb port wouldn't show up with lsbusb?
[20:59] <Seveas> econdudeawesome: it's powered off, broken or using a usb 2.0 on a 1.0 port?
[20:59] <holstein> econdudeawesome: bad motherboard.. bad usb port.. usb disabled in the bios.. no hardware support for the USB hardware or printer.. bad printer..
[21:00] <holstein> econdudeawesome: oh!. i like the usb 1.1/2.0 idea above as well ^^
[21:00] <Seveas> econdudeawesome: or it's plugged into an unpowered hub but needs more power
[21:00] <econdudeawesome> holstein, Seveas how would I check the usb 1.1/2.0?
[21:00] <Seveas> I've seen people plug printers into mac keyboards...
[21:00] <Morph4me> got a flash drive handy ?
[21:00] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: *shudder*
[21:01] <econdudeawesome> Seveas: I've tried a few different ports, printer is on its own power supply
[21:01] <holstein> econdudeawesome: i would just take it to another box.. something running an operating system the vedor officially supports, ideally.. and troubleshoot the printer that way
[21:01] <Seveas> econdudeawesome: try various usb ports on the back of the pc
[21:01] <Kitt3n> I have a problem with grub-efi, it just spits out http://pastie.org/8101185
[21:01] <Seveas> Kitt3n: pastebin full output.
[21:02] <liklewise> my fstab wont reflex the fdisk -l results or blkid, in fact wont recognize any partition at all, but is there what can be wrong, any ideas?
[21:02] <Kitt3n> http://pastie.org/8101190
[21:03] <Kitt3n> Grub works, I think, but it's damn annoying.
[21:03] <ikonia> liklewise: pastebin your fstab and the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[21:04] <nurow> hello. I installed Ubuntu today, and everything seemed to be working okay. Then I installed the ATI graphics drivers, rebooted, and not my computer freezes to a black screen whenever I try to boot up Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[21:04] <Seveas> Kitt3n: oh wow, that's incredibly unhelpful output :/
[21:04] <holstein> econdudeawesome: also, bad usb cable.. thats easy to swap out and test
[21:04] <holstein> nurow: i would just remove it, and enjoy it working as it was
[21:04] <nurow> I'm a gamer, not an option.
[21:04] <Kitt3n> Seveas, my computer boots up, the grub efi menu shows up, everything works but it throws those errors
[21:05] <holstein> !ati | nurow should help you remove it from the command line
[21:05] <Seveas> Kitt3n: can you pastebin the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/grub-efi-amd64.postinst ?
[21:05] <Kitt3n> Sure!
[21:05] <holstein> nurow: it might not be supported.. there are PPA's you can try with updated drivers
[21:05] <Ari-Yang> nurow, what card do you have?
[21:05] <holstein> nurow: i would check with steam, and just follow whatever they officially support.. such as,12.04 with whatever PPA
[21:06] <nurow> Ari-Yang, it's a ATI HD 5870
[21:07] <Kitt3n> Seveas, http://pastie.org/8101198
[21:07] <Ari-Yang> nurow, maybe you should remove the xorg.conf that's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:07] <luist> Seveas: well i cannot remove the root because ubuntucustom_12.04/var/run/lock is busy
[21:07] <Ari-Yang> I think the fglrx drivers generate it....
[21:07] <Ari-Yang> might be the cause of your problem
[21:07] <nurow> Ari-Yang, is there any way I can get to command line? The computer freezes hard during boot
[21:07] <Seveas> luist: find out which process is using it: lsof | grep ubuntucustom_12.04
[21:07] <holstein> nurow: the recovery console from grub
[21:07] <moses_> how do i put a space when typing in a file name in ubuntu?
[21:07] <Ari-Yang> ^
[21:08] <Ari-Yang> what holstein said
[21:08] <liklewise> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5834301/ im running from live cd
[21:08] <Ari-Yang> I'm not a complete expert on this, so I'll let him take it from here
[21:08] <nurow> i don't think I installed grub.. did I? it's not dual boot
[21:08] <holstein> Ari-Yang: i think you are doing great!
[21:08] <Seveas> Kitt3n: as root, change set -e to set -ex
[21:08] <nurow> is there a hotkey to acccess it?
[21:08] <Seveas> Kitt3n: at the top of that file
[21:08] <Ari-Yang> nurow, when you boot hold shift
[21:08] <Seveas> then do dpkg --configure -a
[21:08] <Kitt3n> Okay
[21:08] <Ari-Yang> then let go, I believe that's one of the way s to bring it up, nurow
[21:08] <Seveas> it'll fail again, but tell us where :)
[21:09] <nurow> okie, thanks guys
[21:09] <nurow> and the command would be "sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf" right?
[21:09] <nurow> sorry, noob :)
[21:09] <luist> Seveas: http://pastie.org/8101208
[21:09] <bastidrazor> moses_: file\ name
[21:10] <duelle> ikonia: I tried to enable logging, but now the server refuses to start with "permission denied": http://paste.ubuntu.com/5834311/
[21:10] <Ari-Yang> nurow, yes I believe so. but maybe you shouldn't completely remove it, just move it to a directory where it can't do anything
[21:10] <Ari-Yang> like Documents
[21:10] <Ari-Yang> you know
[21:10] <Ari-Yang> in case you need it or something
[21:10] <Seveas> luist: oh, is something mounted on top? In that case unmount it
[21:11] <holstein> nurow: move, or rename it too.. like mv /etc/X11/xorg.mybackedupconf
[21:11] <moses_> where do i put the slash?
[21:11] <Nach0z> moses_: behind the guitar
[21:11] <luist> Seveas: shouldnt be… all i did was run multistrap
[21:11] <Seveas> moses_: next to axl
[21:11] <bastidrazor> moses_: you\ put\ it\ there\.mp4
[21:11] <Kitt3n> Seveas, http://pastie.org/8101211
[21:11] <Seveas> Nach0z: :)
[21:11] <Nach0z> lol
[21:11] <liklewise> ikonia: did a paste good the results? cant find my post in the screen.
[21:12] <Seveas> luist: check what mount says
[21:12] <Ari-Yang> nurow, sudo mv /etc/X11/corg.conf /your/documents/directory/here
[21:12] <luist> Seveas: http://pastie.org/8101214
[21:12] <mehwork> how can i upgrade ubuntu from 12.10 to 13.04 on DigitalOcean? The 'do-release-upgrade' command doesn't seem to exist plus isn't usually recommended to do over ssh
[21:13] <Vec_> ikano: Im following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html . Instead of creating the SDA-keys through a linux terminal i create them using puttygen. Have i already fubared here?
[21:13] <holstein> mehwork: you should check with them.. they might have something special in place to block that..
[21:13] <MKCoin> Whenever I right click to safely remove my USB drives, it says "Unable to stop drive - This file cannot be stopped", any idea what causes that? I'm having to manually unmount it.
[21:13] <BruceSato> join #ubuntu-gaming
[21:13] <mehwork> holstein: i did, they said it's just 'kvm'
[21:13] <luist> Seveas: ok i fixed it… running a clean multistrap now
[21:13] <mehwork> holstein: so idk what to do
[21:14] <moses_> is there a way to see when a file was last edited?
[21:14] <holstein> mehwork: ask them how you are supposed to upgrade
[21:15] <min|dvir1us> How do I find the sysrq key?
[21:15] <liklewise> !
[21:15] <mehwork> holstein: i did, they dont know
[21:16] <holstein> mehwork: ?
[21:16] <holstein> mehwork: then, i would leave that host provider.. they are the only ones who can know
[21:16] <holstein> mehwork: its not ubuntu's anymore, if they have customized it
[21:17] <holstein> mehwork: this is how i would do it http://sharadchhetri.com/2013/05/02/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-12-10-to-13-04-through-command-line/
[21:18] <Seveas> Kitt3n: what does the command grub-efi-amd64 output?
[21:18] <Kitt3n> Seveas, "grub-efi-amd64: command not found"
[21:18] <mehwork> holstein: i read that one, i'm saying that do doesn't give you the do-upgrade-release command
[21:19] <holstein> mehwork: im saying that too.. but its that vendor that is blocking that.. nothing about ubuntu can fix that.. if they have changed it, its up to them to help you
[21:19] <luist> Seveas: there we go: http://pastie.org/8101233
[21:20] <Seveas> Kitt3n: ok, looking at that output it merely fails in postinstall cleanup but has done its job. Right below the set -ex, add an exit 0
[21:20] <Seveas> Kitt3n: then rerun dpkg --configure -a again and it'll skip configuring the package again
[21:20] <Kitt3n> Seveas, oh, okay! Weird crash..
[21:21] <ikonia> liklewise: why are you looking at the fstab on a livecd ?
[21:21] <ikonia> liklewise: the fstab on a livecd is not going to contain any disk information as it's from a livecd and nothing to do with your system
[21:22] <liklewise> cause is not working my drive, have windoes 7/ubuntu 12.04
[21:22] <ikonia> duelle: sounds like you've not setup logging correctly.
[21:22] <Kitt3n> Seveas, thanks a lot~! <3
[21:22] <trism> min|dvir1us: it is usually the print screen key
[21:22] <liklewise> windows boot no probelms but ubuntu wont even show
[21:22] <duelle> ikonia: corrected it with the help of some tutorial, but it still fails with the same error -,-
[21:22] <ikonia> liklewise: yes, I understand it's not working, but why are you looking at the fstab of a livecd ? or is that fstab of your system on the hard disk
[21:22] <ikonia> duelle: what is the permission denied on ?
[21:22] <Seveas> luist: ok, looks like multistrap is doing its mounts inside the chroot wrong. /proc doesn't get mounted (but it should) and something does get mounted on /var/run (and it should not).
[21:22] <Seveas> luist: so, back to the multistrap docs to find out how to make it not do that.
[21:23] <duelle> ikonia:  named[2251]: isc_stdio_open '/var/log/named.log' failed: permission denied
[21:23] <liklewise> ikonia: gparted wont show partitins at all not even the windows one, so i check fstab and nothing is there.
[21:23] <duelle> ikonia: although its owner is set to bind
[21:23] <ikonia> duelle: have you set the config to chroot ?
[21:23] <ikonia> liklewise: you check fstab on the livecd ?
[21:23] <duelle> ikonia: afaik not
[21:23] <ikonia> liklewise: or on the ubuntu install disk
[21:24] <liklewise> on the live cd, terminal sudo cat /etc/fstab
[21:24] <ikonia> liklewise: that is the fstab on a live cd !!!!!
[21:24] <liklewise> oh cr**
[21:24] <liklewise> really
[21:24] <ikonia> liklewise: how do you expect that to contain information about your disks, it's a livecd it knows nothing about you disk
[21:24] <liklewise> my oh my
[21:24] <gndlp> hahhaha good catch
[21:24] <liklewise> i know, dummmmmmmmmm
[21:24] <ikonia> liklewise: if you boot from a live cd - /etc is /etc from the livecd
[21:25] <ikonia> the whole OS is on the livecd
[21:25] <liklewise> so how i shcek the fstab on the disc
[21:25] <ikonia> liklewise: you'd need to mount the disk and look in /etc on the mounted disk
[21:25] <liklewise> i mount the disk and gparted would recognized too?
[21:25] <ikonia> duelle: can you show me the output of ls -la /var/log in a pastebin please
[21:26] <liklewise> quick question, how i check on the mounted disk?
[21:26] <ikonia> liklewise: no, gparted is nothing to do wiht a mounted disk
[21:26] <luist> Seveas: well but is that the reason why my repository is not being read and my custom package is not being installed?
[21:26] <ikonia> liklewise: check on a mounted disk ?
[21:26] <ikonia> liklewise: check what ?
[21:26] <lozanotux> i have a question
[21:26] <liklewise> the fsstab
[21:26] <Seveas> luist: I think so, because it doesn't even reach the step of installing custom packages, failing to install the base system.
[21:26] <k1l_> liklewise: "mount" shows all that is mounted
[21:26] <ikonia> liklewise: do you know how to mount a disk ?
[21:26] <tking> is there any application i can download to support my Wireless
[21:26] <duelle> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5834363/  (the log file is "named.log")
[21:27] <liklewise> mount -a?
[21:27] <k1l_> lozanotux: go ahead if its ubuntu support
[21:27] <Seveas> tking: you shouldn't need to. What's the problem? And what kind of wireless card?
[21:27] <ikonia> liklewise: no
[21:27] <k1l_> liklewise: just "mount" if you want to see whats mounted
[21:27] <Crawford> Silvaar: Bridged network connection worked...
[21:27] <ikonia> liklewise: do you know how to mount a disk, yes/no
[21:27] <lozanotux> k1l_ thanks
[21:27] <liklewise> i want to see the fstab on the hd from live cd
[21:27] <liklewise> i dont know
[21:27] <lozanotux> guys... is recommended install "linux-generic-lts-raring" now?
[21:27] <ikonia> liklewise: please answer the quesiton that you are being asked
[21:28] <luist> Seveas: well i couldnt find anything in the docs, except some config script that should be used inside chroot to mount proc (which means i should have the chroot first, i guess)
[21:28] <ikonia> liklewise: Do you know how to mount a disk - yes or no
[21:28] <liklewise> no
[21:28] <liklewise> ikonia : no
[21:28] <ikonia> liklewise: right, so when I say mount the disk, the answer you give is "I don't know how to do that"
[21:28] <Seveas> lozanotux: recommended install is Ubuntu 12.04 if you want long term support and 13.04 if you want newer software
[21:28] <lozanotux> guys... is recommended install "linux-generic-lts-raring" now?
[21:28] <k1l_> liklewise: just use the nautilus (file explorer) to mount that
[21:28] <ikonia> then we know where we are and how to proceed
[21:28] <liklewise> k1l_: than x just did that
[21:29] <liklewise> i undretand
[21:29] <Tex_Nick> lozanotux: raring is not lts ... last lts was 12.04
[21:29] <ikonia> duelle: I suspect it's chrooted, lets do a test, do "sudo chmod 775 /var/log/named.log"
[21:29] <lozanotux> guys... is recommended install "linux-generic-lts-raring" now in Ubuntu 12.04?
[21:29] <k1l_> liklewise: its gvfs that mounts the stuff with nautilus
[21:29] <ikonia> duelle: then try again
[21:29] <Seveas> lozanotux: read the answers you have been given.
[21:30] <duelle> ikonia: still the same error
[21:30] <lozanotux> my native language is spanish
[21:30] <Seveas> lozanotux: that doesn't mean you don't need to read.
[21:30] <k1l_> lozanotux: that is the standard for the 12.04.2
[21:30] <schultza> where does start-stop-daemon log it's log entries?
[21:30] <Seveas> !es
[21:30] <k1l_> !es | lozanotux
[21:30] <lozanotux> is recommended install "lts-raring" kernel in ubuntu 12.04-.... yes or not??
[21:30] <Tex_Nick> !es | lozanotux
[21:30] <Seveas> schultza: it does not
[21:31] <varunendra> Seveas, Tex_Nick it is a "linux-generic-lit-raring" is a kernel metapackage in 12.04's repository.
[21:31] <schultza> i have an init.d/freeswitch script that doesnt seem to be starting freeswitch, but when i do it manually, it works.
[21:31] <suore> Guys, why i cannot typing han character at steam?. Its problem of steam?.
[21:31] <lozanotux> sure
[21:31] <varunendra> lozanotux, why do you need to install that package?
[21:32] <ikonia> lozanotux: no - use the kernel that is shipped with your distro
[21:32] <ikonia> duelle: looks like it's chrooted then
[21:32] <k1l_> lozanotux: see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[21:32] <lozanotux> Ubuntu 12.04 is very slow and heavy
[21:32] <ikonia> duelle: (I suspect/guess it is)
[21:32] <Seveas> ikonia: that's shipped with 12.04.2 -- apparently canonical does kernel backports for lts now
[21:32] <Seveas> lozanotux: newer kernel won't make it faster. Get better hardware.
[21:32] <ikonia> Seveas: yeah, but the backport repo......
[21:33] <k1l_> he is talking about the LTS backports kernel from the enablement stack
[21:33] <k1l_> but i think he will be have better luck with support in the spanish channels
[21:33] <Seveas> ikonia: no, main
[21:33] <ikonia> because they do such a good job with backports.....
[21:33] <ikonia> Seveas: what, !!!!
[21:33] <tking> Seveas, because it doesn't see much networks around like other people
[21:33] <lozanotux> but when i have a fresh installation of Ubuntu 12.04 is very good and fast
[21:33] <varunendra> lozanotux, that package is not going to make it fast unless it fixes some driver that maybe causing that.
[21:33] <Seveas> ikonia: see that link k1l_ just pasted
[21:33] <liklewise> so now that i mount the hd where i want to check fastab how do i check this via terminal?
[21:33] <ikonia> Seveas: I will have a look in a moment
[21:33] <ikonia> lozanotux: where did you mount it ?
[21:34] <ikonia> lozanotux: sorry, not you
[21:34] <duelle> ikonia: so that means that I can't use logging? afaik I didn't chroot sth for bind. I just installed it and set up the config
[21:34] <ikonia> liklewise: where did you mount it
[21:34] <schultza> how do i fix an init.d script so a program can work!?
[21:34] <ikonia> duelle: no, it means it's probably setup to chroot the install to a jail
[21:34] <liklewise> what you mean where
[21:34] <Seveas> schultza: with an editor :-)
[21:34] <liklewise> i did via nautilus
[21:34] <ikonia> liklewise: you mount it on a directory - where did you mount it
[21:34] <lozanotux> ubuntu-wine/ppa has be slow my Ubuntu 12.04 system... is possible??
[21:34] <nurow> Ari-Yang, i just rebooted into command line, but it looks like the xorg.conf file was already missing?
[21:34] <k1l_> ikonia: the enablement stack is a backport kernel for lts to keep it more uptodate and to remove samsung uefi issues etc
[21:35] <schultza> Seveas: not helping. I know they are text files and I can use programs like vim, gedit, etc.
[21:35] <ikonia> liklewise: open nautilus go into the disk, go into the etc directory on that drive, then look at the fstab file
[21:35] <varunendra> lozanotux, PPAs are not supported here, sorry.
[21:35] <Seveas> schultza: then ask a better question...
[21:35] <k1l_> lozanotux: we cant say for PPAs, since we dont know whats in there
[21:35] <ikonia> k1l_: seems stupid, should just update the distro
[21:35] <lozanotux> yes.. but is possible that ppa has slow my system??
[21:35] <ikonia> I'll have a proper read of the link though
[21:35] <nurow> im in etc/X11, but i see no such file. the is a file called X, but no trailing. conf?
[21:36] <ikonia> duelle: can you please show me "ps -ef | grep named" in a pastebin please.
[21:36] <schultza> I have a script that is not starting the application i want started as a service. When I start it manually, it works. I believe there is something wrong with the script. Hence why I was looking for logs with errors about. Apparently the script uses start-stop-daemon.
[21:36] <columb> After update to 13.04 from 12.10 I can't find "workspace switcher".  How do I get it back? Shortcuts for switching workspaces also does't work.
[21:36] <duelle> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5834391/
[21:36] <k1l_> lozanotux: yes
[21:36] <varunendra> lozanotux, as already said, we can not say for sure, we don't go by pure guesses here.
[21:37] <ikonia> duelle: interesting, doesn't look like it's chrooted
[21:37] <jrib> schultza: you need to give more details
[21:37] <ikonia> duelle: can I see the output of "ls -la /var/log" again please.
[21:37] <ikonia> duelle: (new paste please)
[21:37] <schultza> Here is the script. <http://paste.debian.net/13828/>
[21:38] <liklewise> ikonia: i just have a fstab.d folder and has nothing on it
[21:38] <schultza> jrib: what details are you looking for? I start the script, then go ps|grep for it, it doesnt exist.. service freeswitch status comes back failed.
[21:38] <nurow> can anyone help me? after installing my ati graphics drivers, my system won't boot. i was told to go into command line and delete the xorg.conf file, but that file doesn't exist already.
[21:38] <ikonia> liklewise: where are you looking ?
[21:38] <duelle> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5834394/
[21:39] <sudormrf> Hey all. I own an ubuntu vps and a domain name. I would like to set-up postfix (or something) so that I can send and receive email from me@mydomain.co.uk or whatever...
[21:39] <ikonia> duelle: that's very odd, what's the error message again ?
[21:39] <tannji> columb,  Workspaces are disabled by default in 13.04 Raring. To enable them, open Appearance from the dash, switch to the behavior tab, and enable workspaces
[21:39] <nightdrever> hi, I just installed scid in ubuntu 12.04, where is instalation folder?
[21:39] <sudormrf> I can setup postfix with sudo apt-get install postfix, of course... but how do I set it up with my domain?
[21:39] <Seveas> sudormrf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[21:40] <liklewise> /media/69ccfbd9-c092-4c2e-a708-3e10fa5dc742/etc
[21:40] <ikonia> liklewise: and there is no fstab
[21:40] <duelle> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5834395/
[21:41] <Seveas> nightdrever: there is no such thing as an 'installation folder'.
[21:41] <nightdrever> well i mean where is the application launched from
[21:41] <ikonia> duelle: ahhh it's apparmor !!
[21:41] <sudormrf> Thanks Seveas
[21:41] <ikonia> duelle: I didn' see that line last time
[21:41] <Seveas> nightdrever: binaries are in /usr/bin, data in /usr/share, libraries in /usr/lib -- like all packages
[21:41] <sudormrf> Also, my computer seems to be overheating a lot and shutting itself down... how do I know what temperature it shuts itself down at?
[21:42] <ikonia> duelle: you'll need to update your apparmor profile or disable apparmor
[21:42] <nurow> anybody? :(
[21:42] <nightdrever> so what about the 'thing' you click so it starts? sorry im a newbie
[21:42] <schultza> sudormrf: that may be a BIOS setting.
[21:42] <duelle> ikonia: tbh I never used or changed anything with apparmor
[21:42] <sudormrf> schultza, ah... you're probably right! Will look into that.
[21:42] <sudormrf> :-)
[21:43] <liklewise> ikonia: no, just fstab.d
[21:43] <ikonia> duelle: I'm a bit rusty on it, I don't normally mess with it, I'd suggest for a test - just diable it
[21:43] <ikonia> liklewise:  is it possible you've deleted it ? is there anything in fstab.d ?
[21:43] <nightdrever> ok doesnt mater
[21:44] <liklewise> nothing on ftsba.d
[21:44] <ikonia> liklewise: sounds like you've deleted it
[21:44] <liklewise> i dont think i deleted, maybe because this partition is broken has no fstab
[21:45] <ikonia> liklewise: well, there should be a file thee, what do you mean the partition is "broken"
[21:45] <jackw411> evening chaps, I have a question -> I currently have sublime text 2 installed on ubuntu. I wish to install sublimetext3 without b0rking my subl2 install and its associated term aliases. howdo?
[21:45] <liklewise> in not loading ubuntu
[21:45] <ikonia> liklewise: that's not what I asked, what's happened to the disk/partition
[21:46] <liklewise> if i knew i give you an answer, i just know is not loading the OS just loading windows system
[21:46] <BlueChaos> ikonia,
[21:46] <ikonia> liklewise: well, what happens when you try to boot ubuntu ?
[21:46] <columb> Hm.. Yet another weird thing. After update to 13.04 I can't find my skype. Why is could be deleted? :(
[21:47] <duelle> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5834413/ (apparmor is disabled now)
[21:47] <ikonia> duelle:  loading configuration: permission denied
[21:47] <liklewise> when i star pc goes atright to windows install
[21:48] <ss_haze> 13.04 has it's own version of skype
[21:48] <ss_haze> I guess
[21:48] <ikonia> liklewise: ok so that's grub not loading
[21:48] <columb> How do I get it?
[21:48] <tannji> columb, you are running 64-bit 13.04?
[21:48] <liklewise> but my files i can see them via ecryptfs-recover-private, yes seems the grub issue
[21:48] <ikonia> liklewise: have you done something to your PC, eg: installed windows / fixed windows
[21:48] <columb> tannji, yeap.
[21:48] <liklewise> last thing fix windows
[21:49] <Seveas> !grub | liklewise
[21:49] <ikonia> liklewise: please explain wha tyou did to fix windows
[21:49] <duelle> ikonia: I set up logging in /etc/bind/named.conf.local so it should be accessible by bind ... oO
[21:49] <tannji> Skype has not been released, as far as I know, with 64-bit....  have to use a work-around to install and get it running
[21:49] <ikonia> duelle: how did you disable apparmor ?
[21:50] <liklewise> i use boot-repair click, click and done! sorry i cant be specific but is all i know from my side.
[21:50] <duelle> ikonia: /etc/init.d/apparmor teardown and via service apparmor stop
[21:50] <ikonia> liklewise: that's the issue then, you've overwritten grub
[21:50] <ikonia> duelle: teardown, never seen that
[21:50] <ss_haze> I guess I am lucky with intel i5 and pae 32 bit installation, I have skype, and it runs great on 12.04, but it's micros***
[21:50] <gndlp> liklewise: you killed grub!
[21:51] <tannji> columb, do you have nvidia vid card?
[21:51] <irreverant> ikonia: is lilo still available.
[21:51] <columb> tannji, no, it's ATI.
[21:51] <liklewise> what!... i swear was not my intention
[21:51] <duelle> ikonia: serivece status says that there are no profiles loaded etc ..
[21:51] <ikonia> irreverant: if you want to use it, sure
[21:51] <liklewise> so now is kaput? for me
[21:52] <Seveas> !grub | liklewise
[21:52] <liklewise> any way to fix this
[21:52] <ikonia> duelle: annoyingly still looks like app armor
[21:52] <ikonia> duelle: check /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.named
[21:52] <ikonia> duelle: make sure permissions are set in there
[21:53] <alket> Hi, sometimes when i turn up my laptop  gives me popups that it cannot write certain files, I used to fsck via recovery mode and then everything worked fine until the next restart, but not it is not working. I dual boot with windows 7 and currently i am writing from it. How to fix this ? Thank you in advance.
[21:53] <liklewise> !grub | liklewise??
[21:54] <Seveas> liklewise: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[21:54] <Seveas> alket: which files?
[21:54] <liklewise> got iit}
[21:54] <duelle> ikonia: theres an entry /etc/bind/** r    so the whole folder of bind should be readable if I understand correctly ..
[21:54] <fafafs> type
[21:54] <fafafs> test
[21:54] <fafafs> yes.
[21:54] <alket> Seveas: almost every file now, can't open home direcotry, no wireless, no google chrome just popups flooding
[21:54] <columb> So. How do I get my skype back for 64-bit ubuntu13.04
[21:55] <tannji> columb...  it appears from what I can see that the best option is to wait for a mature build of skype for 13.04 and 64-bit.   lots of problems and no one single work-around works for everyone
[21:55] <ikonia> duelle: that's read, not write, and also your logs are in /var/log
[21:55] <Seveas> alket: does dmesg say anythong about remounting filesystems readonly after errors?
[21:56] <Seveas> duelle: /var/log isn't writable by ordinary users. Create a /var/log/named that's writable by the named user and make it log there.
[21:56] <columb> tannji, How do I get dev build of skype?  Or get back my 12.10 ubuntu.
[21:56] <ikonia> Seveas: he's got a named.log file in there has file system permissions for the bind user, it looks like it's just app armour that's blocking it
[21:56] <alket> Seveas: i keep getting this error for 5 weeks, but it used to fix just with fsck, now nothing works, i reinstalled many times and get this error but not with windows, It used to work fine with ubuntu couple months ago though
[21:56] <Sicp> I am able to SSH from another computer into my own (same network), but when I try to SSH into my machine from itself, I get dropped out as soon as I get in, why is that?
[21:57] <Seveas> alket: if your filesystem breaks this often: make a backup and buy a new disk
[21:57] <alket> Seveas: but not for windows ?
[21:57] <Miningdude> Hello all.
[21:57] <Seveas> Sicp: check /var/log/syslog -- you might have been messing with pam_access for instance
[21:58] <Seveas> alket: the broken part of the disk could be limited to just the ubuntu partition(s)
[21:58] <Sicp> doesn't make sense
[21:58] <alket> Seveas: so there isn't any fix ?
[21:58] <Seveas> hello Miningdude. coal or diamonds?
[21:58] <Sicp> and I have not been messing with that file
[21:58] <Miningdude> Seveas: Looking for Diamonds every day I can. Haha. How are you today?
[21:59] <Seveas> alket: the easy fix is to buy a new disk :)
[21:59] <Seveas> Sicp: so what are the errors in the log?
[21:59] <alket> thank you Seveas
[21:59] <mehwork> i'm upgrading ubuntu to 13.04 and it says "A new version of /boot/grub/menu.lst is available, but the version installed currently has been locally modified". What would you like to do?
[21:59] <mehwork> what should i do
[21:59] <duelle> ikonia: seems to work now. Found an entry that "unlocked" /var/log/named/**  I created such a folder and set owner to bind
[21:59] <Morph4me> columb: follow this guide to install skype on 13.04 64bit >http://www.liberiangeek.net/2013/03/how-to-install-skype-in-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail/
[21:59] <ikonia> duelle: bravo
[22:00] <Seveas> Sicp: actually, the errors would be in /var/log/auth.log
[22:00] <Sicp> thought so
[22:00] <columb> Morph4me, thanks.
[22:00] <Sicp> still, auth.log is a 0 file; empty
[22:00] <Seveas> mehwork: did you modify that file yourself?
[22:01] <Seveas> Sicp: that's really weird. Never used sudo?
[22:01] <duelle> ikonia: so it logs to that file. If I use nslookup I can see the query. but if I ping there is no entry. nslookup query hostname looks ok.
[22:01] <Seveas> Sicp: and cron is dead?
[22:01] <Sicp> new installation
[22:01] <ifrapsu> hi
[22:01] <mehwork> Seveas: no
[22:01] <Seveas> Sicp: how new? If it's older than an hour, at least cron should have logged something
[22:02] <Seveas> mehwork: then go for "ok, make the change"
[22:02] <duelle> ikonia: It seems to query a server of ubuntu: daisy.ubuntu.com
[22:02] <Sicp> damn, I've been stuck inside 4 sessions
[22:02] <ifrapsu> im just trying my new bouncer
[22:02] <mehwork> Seveas: thakns
[22:02] <Sicp> just typed exit for the 4th time, haha
[22:02] <ikonia> duelle: that seems odd
[22:02] <Seveas> Sicp: <ctrl>D works too :)
[22:02] <Sicp> it's just the interaction of the terminal that made me think I dropped out
[22:03] <Sicp> the prompt gets printed again in a different way that I'm used to seeing because I changed the PS1 into something radical some days ago
[22:03] <Sicp> weirdest experience to date
[22:07] <duelle> ikonia: Whoops, now I got something very strange here: there are several queries targeting a dropbox-server, and theres one entry trying to query a dropbox.com.mydomain
[22:09] <BlueChaos> I need help I did one radio station (shoutcast) and I don`t know what audio streaming player to use please recomand me one
[22:09] <Seveas> BlueChaos: mplayer
[22:10] <BlueChaos> I need a audio player to connect  with (shoutcast)
[22:10] <BlueChaos> like (sam broadcast)
[22:10] <BlueChaos> something like that but for ubuntu
[22:10] <Miningdude> Seveas: While I'm here, is there support in here for Ubuntu 13.04 installed in Virtualbox? (Please, put me at the bottom of your response list)
[22:11] <Seveas> Miningdude: if you're lucky there is. Depends on the issue. Most likely we'll give it a try :)
[22:12] <Miningdude> Seveas: WHen I see you're done with the other questions, I'll continue. Though it seems like BlueChaos is still wondering on his/her question.
[22:12] <axisys> !ask > Miningdude
[22:13] <Seveas> Miningdude: just ask :)
[22:13] <Seveas> there's no queue
[22:13] <Morph4me> BlueChaos: what about vlc ?
[22:13] <ikonia> duelle: that looks like it's not terminated properly
[22:13] <BlueChaos> Morph4me, u don`t understand me
[22:14] <Morph4me> you want to broadcast?
[22:14] <BlueChaos> I need a player who can connect to (shoutcast ) radio station
[22:14] <ikonia> duelle: that looks like it's appending yourdomain.com to queries, like I suggested earlier, eg: hostname works as it becomes host.yourdomain.com, host.yourdomain.com doesn't work as it becomes host.yourdomain.com.yourdomain.com
[22:15] <Crawford> Is there a way to use add-apt-repository from a VM that's online via NAT?
[22:15] <duelle> ikonia: The point is, that its only one query out of six where mydomain is appended. The rest seems to be correct.
[22:15] <ikonia> Crawford: same way as normal
[22:15] <Seveas> Crawford: sure.
[22:15] <axisys> BlueChaos: http://askubuntu.com/search?q=shoutcast
[22:15] <Miningdude> Seveas: Okay. I was just trying to be curteous to others. Anyway, I try to boot up my 13.04 install in Virtualbox (Installed in VB since the install of it, with it working for me in the past) but the VM won't start. All it gives me is a black screen with the blinking cursor.
[22:15] <duelle> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5834491/
[22:15] <ikonia> duelle: that seems to be hte issue though, so the question is why,
[22:15] <Crawford> ikonia: doesn't work for me on 12.04
[22:16] <ikonia> Crawford: probably your nat not setup correctly
[22:16] <axisys> Miningdude: try to poweroff and then start again
[22:16] <ikonia> duelle: that's most odd
[22:16] <axisys> Miningdude: most likely a question for #vbox
[22:16] <Miningdude> Axisys: The Host or Guest machine? (Again, Virtualbox)
[22:16] <axisys> guest
[22:16] <Miningdude> Ah, I will check it out. Thank you.
[22:16] <ikonia> duelle: lets try a test, maybe get lucky, do'nt think this will work
[22:17] <Miningdude> Anyway, I've tried to reboot the Guest machine many times.
[22:17] <axisys> vboxmanage controlvm VM poweroff
[22:17] <axisys> Miningdude: ^
[22:17] <ikonia> duelle: change your /etc/resolv.conf to contain just the line nameserver 192.168.100.1
[22:17] <ikonia> lets see if we can override dnsmasq
[22:17] <axisys> Miningdude: yep.. most likely ask in #vbox
[22:17] <liklewise> now that i know i kill grub, is there a way to do a fresh install from live cd even if gparted wont recgnize any partition at all?
[22:18] <duelle> ikonia: ok, i commented out the second entry
[22:18] <Miningdude> Axisys: Thanks for the assistance here!
[22:18] <ikonia> liklewise: it must recognise your partition, as you showed me the output of it earlier
[22:18] <ikonia> duelle: out of interest does it make any difference better/worse to the ping test you did earlier
[22:18] <liklewise> is there a way to make gparted recognize it?
[22:18] <ikonia> liklewise: it does already
[22:19] <ikonia> liklewise: you showed me that it does earlier
[22:19] <liklewise> not gparted
[22:19] <axisys> liklewise: sudo grub-install /dev/sda or like from livecd
[22:19] <ikonia> axisys: do'nt do that
[22:19] <ikonia> axisys: his install looks screwed up
[22:19] <ikonia> so putting grub on won't help at the moment
[22:19] <axisys> ikonia: ok
[22:20] <liklewise> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?
[22:20] <liklewise> ikonia: i get this
[22:20] <ikonia> liklewise: take a screenshot of gparted not recognising the disk
[22:21] <axisys> liklewise: df -h /boot probably errors out ?
[22:21] <duelle> ikonia: unfortunately not :/
[22:21] <ikonia> axisys: it's not mounted !!!
[22:21] <axisys> ikonia: heh.. that will do it
[22:21] <ikonia> duelle: so no difference at all, not worse or better
[22:21] <duelle> ikonia: correct
[22:21] <ikonia> duelle: now that is surprising
[22:22] <liklewise> ikonia: how do i post a picture in here?
[22:22] <shinao1> Hi I've been trying to setup 13.04 as an L2TP/IPSec VPN Client but it doesnt work..I keep getting this error: ERROR: asynchronous network error report on eth0 (sport=4500) for message to <IP_Address> port 18547, complainant <IP_Address>: Connection refused [errno 111, origin ICMP type 3 code 3 (not authenticated)]
[22:22] <ehmatthes> I am starting to learn vim. Does it matter whether I run 'vi file.txt' or 'vim file.txt'? Both seem to open the same editor.
[22:22] <ikonia> liklewise: imagebin or imageshack or something
[22:22] <ikonia> ehmatthes: no
[22:22] <timers> in new film dallas buyers.. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0846001/
[22:22] <ehmatthes> ikonia Thanks.
[22:22] <ikonia> timers: pleaes don't spam that stuff here
[22:23] <liklewise> ikonia:  http://imagebin.org/263141
[22:23] <ikonia> liklewise: ok, so there are no partitions on that disk
[22:23] <ikonia> liklewise: you've deleted your install
[22:24] <TimRe> can anybody tell me the proper way on setting up sftp server and allow me to jail users only to there home directory n not getting permission denied when trying to upload files?
[22:24] <axisys> ikonia, liklewise : ouch!
[22:25] <valan> ehmatthes vim has features not found in vi
[22:25] <liklewise> but fdisk -l keeps showing and i can see my files too... i had a partition just for intall and still shows in ubuntu is 16 gb size
[22:25] <ikonia> liklewise: I suspect fdisk has not re-scanned the disk
[22:25] <ikonia> liklewise: do a sudo part-probe
[22:25] <ikonia> liklewise: how are you launching gparted ?
[22:26] <duelle> ikonia: so I probably have to completely re-check my dhcp and dns-zone-config?
[22:26]  * BlueChaos Sunt singuratic între păgâni Şi când străbat strada,Javrele ridică coada 
[22:27] <ikonia> duelle: now you only have that one name server setup, monitor the dns query log for a while, see if you get any more of those odd lookups
[22:27] <ikonia> BlueChaos: please disable that
[22:28] <duelle> ikonia: the queries to dropbox repeat all the time. 5 correct, 1 with my hostname at the end
[22:28] <BlueChaos> ikonia, what?
[22:28] <BlueChaos> to disable ?
[22:28] <ikonia> 23:26  * BlueChaos Sunt singuratic între pÄgâni Åi când strÄbat strada,Javrele
[22:29] <ikonia> BlueChaos: that script/function, please disable it
[22:29] <liklewise> ikonia: from the dashboard and from terminal
[22:29] <ikonia> liklewise: how are you launching it from the terminal ?
[22:29] <ubuntu-gnome> lutefisk is sooo good
[22:30] <alishnj> hi
[22:30] <axisys> TimRe: have you tried to google?
[22:31] <axisys> TimRe:  google found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/49271/how-to-setup-a-sftp-server-with-users-chrooted-in-their-homedirectories
[22:31] <liklewise> sudo gparted
[22:32] <ikonia> liklewise: use gksudo gparted to launch gui apps
[22:32] <ikonia> liklewise: bottom line is looks like you've deleted the partitions/partition table
[22:32] <axisys> ikonia: so running off of fs cache or another disk?
[22:33] <ikonia> axisys: no, probably not re-scanned the disk scince it was changed,
[22:33] <axisys> ikonia: hmm
[22:34] <ikonia> duelle: sorry, need to step away from the keyboard for a while
[22:34] <axisys> probably should backup externally anything important before the OS realize what happend.. hehe
[22:35] <axisys> ikonia: ^
[22:35] <duelle> ikonia: np, I got to go offline soon. I want to thank you for your patience and help!
[22:36] <duelle> ikonia: thanks a lot! bye
[22:41] <liklewise> i know, i still wonder why does windows loads no problem at all, thats why i wanted to see if i can recreate the fstab by the blkid
[22:42] <axisys> liklewise: in that gparted disk selection drop down menu on top right corner, do you more disks show up?
[22:43] <axisys> do you have...
[22:43] <digital> hey all
[22:43] <TimR> so why with this command: sudo useradd -d /ftpusers/HomeFolder -m UserName -g sftp -s /bin/false I cant create directory for?
[22:43] <liklewise> axisys: no, just the usb disk
[22:44] <axisys> TimR: that command does not look kosher
[22:44] <digital> does anyone know much about modifying unity?
[22:44] <TimR> im getting this command from : http://askubuntu.com/questions/49271/how-to-setup-a-sftp-server-with-users-chrooted-in-their-homedirectories
[22:44] <axisys> TimR: sudo useradd -m -d /home/foo -s /bin/false -g sftp foo or like will work
[22:44]  * BlueChaos free add (ubuntu )pm me :D=))
[22:45] <TimR> thanks axisys that worked
[22:45] <axisys> TimR: df -h /ftpusers
[22:46] <TimR> so whats the full command?
[22:46] <axisys> you probably dont have /ftpusers dir
[22:47] <axisys> what do you get with df -h /ftpusers
[22:47] <axisys> TimR: ^
[22:47] <TimR> df: `/ftpusers': No such file or directory
[22:47] <TimR> df: no file systems processed
[22:47] <axisys> exactly what I thought
[22:48] <axisys> try to create a home dir underneath a existing dir
[22:48] <axisys> if you want to follow it exactly, run sudo mkdir /ftpusers first
[22:49] <axisys> and then run that useradd command
[22:49] <Programmer_> how do i stop xfce4-terminal -e pyrit from closing?
[22:50] <axisys> TimR: you should have used the answers with 9 likes
[22:51] <TimR> what u mean by that axisys?
[22:51] <axisys> TimR: or follow this link
[22:51] <axisys> TimR: http://askubuntu.com/questions/134425/how-can-i-chroot-sftp-only-ssh-users-into-their-homes/134442#134442
[22:51] <digital> Programmer_: when exactly is it closing on you?
[22:51] <explodes> Hey guys. pg_upgradecluster (8.4 to 9.1) is giving me a hard time. My `main` 8.4 cluster uses the 'hstore' custom type; In 9.1 that is installed as an extension. The upgrade fails… Is there anyway to pre-install hstore on the target cluster before the actual upgrade?
[22:51] <TimR> well now I am getting connection error
[22:53] <axisys> TimR: how much linux have you used before today?
[22:53] <TimR> alot axisys I just havent played around with vsftp before
[22:53] <explodes> pg_upgradecluster fails like this: http://pastie.org/8101331
[22:53] <axisys> TimR: you failed to follow useradd command.. thats why I asked
[22:54] <Programmer_> digital, after program execution
[22:54] <Programmer_> i want to hold it (which -H does) but i also want to be able to input
[22:54] <TimR> ok so axisys tell me what I all need to do?
[22:55] <axisys> TimR: sorry I have to run, I would google some more for a complete howto.. may be "howtoforge sftp" a good start
[22:56] <TimR> all these guides I read dont work
[22:56] <TimR> that is why i am asking here
[22:56] <digital> Programmer_: I take it you're opening it to run a specific program.
[22:57] <Programmer_> yes
[22:59] <digital> Programmer_: try ps -ejH
[23:00] <digital> does anyone know how to customise unity?
[23:01] <MonkeyDust> digital  use unity-tweak-tool, it's in the repo's
[23:03] <shinao1> Hi I've been trying to setup 13.04 as an L2TP/IPSec VPN Client but it doesnt work..I keep getting this error: ERROR: asynchronous network error report on eth0 (sport=4500) for message to <IP_Address> port 18547, complainant <IP_Address>: Connection refused [errno 111, origin ICMP type 3 code 3 (not authenticated)]
[23:04] <digital> MonkeyDust: Where do I find it? (just tried apt)
[23:04] <Pock> digital, it's gnome-tweak-tool I think.
[23:05] <MonkeyDust> !info unity-tweak-tool | digital
[23:05] <MonkeyDust> digital  activate the universe source
[23:05] <Pock> Ah.
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> 13.10 in chroot \o/
[23:07] <digital> MonkeyDust: thanks
[23:10] <adie> what two colours make red?
[23:11] <reisio> adie: in what color model
[23:11] <digital> red is a primary colour.
[23:11] <irreverant> well that's changed.
[23:12] <irreverant> isn't this a little off topic?
[23:12] <irreverant> but there are now 6 primary colors and it's not red it's magenta
[23:12] <digital> it would be magenta and yellow if you're thinking of CMYK
[23:12] <irreverant>  cyan, magenta, yellow, and key (black)
[23:13] <digital> there are 3 primary colour and three secondary colours. Red Green and Blue are additive.  Cyan Magenta and Yellow are subtractive.
[23:13] <irreverant> In reference to spectral colors?
[23:22] <MENDAX> people indonesia
[23:25] <djshotglass> why in the f**k does my screen res change when i update my network drivers
[23:25] <reisio> djshotglass: it doesn't
[23:26] <djshotglass> install compat drivers
[23:26] <djshotglass> and watch it for yourself
[23:26] <djshotglass> did it on 12 and 13
[23:26] <MENDAX_> crott
[23:27] <whoever> hi all, is there a plugin for the calender to add reminders or event info
[23:27] <whoever> so that the calander can be used like a date planner
[23:27] <adie> ...
[23:29] <whoever> adie: is that elipse for me?
[23:29] <adie> I do what I want
[23:32]  * BlueChaos executive smoke like a player 
[23:33] <histo> whoever: Plugin for what calendar
[23:34] <whoever> histo: desktop time/calendar
[23:36] <chamunks> how do I get ubuntu for my nexus 4
[23:37] <reisio> chamunks: does it use secure boot?
[23:37] <xangua> !mobile | chamunks
[23:37] <DYSW> reiso: "ubuntu nexus 4" in google will tell u
[23:37] <chamunks> reisio, I have it encrypted right now if thats what you mean.
[23:37] <reisio> it isn't
[23:37] <reisio> nexus 4 uses secure boot
[23:37] <reisio> you can't install another OS unless Google tells you the key
[23:37] <chamunks> really.
[23:38] <chamunks> thats kind of slimey
[23:38] <reisio> for the most part
[23:38] <reisio> yes it is
[23:38] <chamunks> its like this whole uefi bios bs
[23:38] <reisio> mmm
[23:38] <chamunks> #restorethefourth lol
[23:38] <chamunks> lol but anyways sillyness aside I wonder how I get secureboot disabled.
[23:39] <reisio> the more you learn about secure boot, the more you'll realize it's best to just get an unencumbered device to begin wtih
[23:39] <reisio> with*
[23:39] <chamunks> that was the idea with buying this stupid thing.
[23:39] <chamunks> quite misleading.
[23:40] <reisio> chamunks: you should double check what I've said, but that's what it looks like
[23:40] <chamunks> thats actually somewhat infuriating.
[23:40] <reisio> it's massively infuriating :D
[23:41] <chamunks> I'm just reading a bunch about certain security features of certain governments that are awesome.
[23:41] <reisio> :p
[23:41] <chamunks> and i'm thinking that I want to get the hell away from google as fast and as hard as I possibly can.
[23:41] <reisio> yup
[23:42] <chamunks> I just run minecraft servers but my privacy from invading governments is paramount to me.
[23:42] <reisio> and anything else that's for-profit
[23:42]  * reisio looks at Canonical
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> chamunks, Dude your missinformed that unit is easily rooted and another os like the developments can be installed.
[23:42] <reisio> wilee-nilee: the developments?
[23:42] <whoever> histo:  do i need a different calendar do  add events to or can i use the  calendar that ships with ubuntu
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> #ubuntu-touch the phone or saucy
[23:43] <reisio> getting root and replacing the OS are different things
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> there are only hacks for dualbooting a android, it can be done.
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> any install can be imaged in minutes and reinserted on many
[23:44] <histo> whoever: there are tons of calendar apps search the software center
[23:47] <whoever> histo: yes i found calander-lens . i was just wondering if i could do this with the default calendar that shiped with ubuntu
[23:50] <histo> whoever: well I don't have a default calendar
[23:50] <histo> s/calendar/calender/
[23:50] <daftykins> actually it *is* calendar
[23:50] <histo> actually no it is spelled with an a
[23:51] <chamunks> I wonder how far we are from getting some method of piggybacking on google services with encrypted data.
[23:51] <daftykins> hehe
[23:51] <chamunks> so that we could possibly use google drive to store our ubuntu phone things.
[23:51] <gordonjcp> chamunks: there used to be gmailfs
[23:51] <chamunks> but yeah xangua that ubottu didnt work.
[23:52] <mrtAkdeniz> Hi guys
[23:52] <chamunks> gordonjcp, to be honnest we all know google isnt going anywhere
[23:52] <chamunks> if we store stuff there its pretty reliable but just do it encrypted.
[23:52] <reisio> still is gmailfs, last I checked
[23:52] <mrtAkdeniz> I am installed Ubuntu Gnome 13.04 version, then I installed ubuntu-desktop with Unity... Now I am using Unity, but I want to install themes... On themes, there are GTK3 themes, which version of my GTK? How can I found it?
[23:53] <gordonjcp> chamunks: it's verging on something for #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:53] <reisio> there are also plenty of free places that actually _want_ your storage
[23:53] <chamunks> gordonjcp, if you care to carry it on there.  I mainly stopped by to find out if I can find an installer guide for ubuntu for my nexus 4
[23:53] <gordonjcp> chamunks: ah, you want #ubuntu-touch
[23:54] <dakotawulfy> ubuntu touch
[23:56] <chamunks> excellent :) ty
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