[00:02] <doorp> James_Epp: Heya, thanks for your support
[00:02] <James_Epp> doorp: NP.
[00:02] <James_Epp> I got two hours in the day. Let me get some coffee and I'll be with ya shortly.
[00:02] <doorp> James_Epp: I guess it's about time I'll do the switch from cli to X, but quite frankly I would prefer to use my own built from source env
[00:03] <James_Epp> In the meantime, grab this iso: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/release/desktop/xubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[00:03] <James_Epp> I've never done my own, but I'm sure you'll pick up xubuntu easy.
[00:27] <James_Epp> If anyone could help me and my friend here out. We're seeing if it would be possible to have a portable installation of xubuntu (on a flash drive/other means) and then be able to hibernate a session, change to very similar hardware, and load back up from the hibernation. What do you guys think?
[00:32] <James_Epp> doorp: Tested hibernation, and I could do it successfully provided it was the exact same machine. I can't tell you if it would work with similar models, but it works for an identical machine.
[01:02] <nyRednek> James_Epp, hibernation like that will likely never work
[01:03] <James_Epp> nyRednek: Could you provide more explanation?
[01:05] <nyRednek> James_Epp, well, the resume from hibernation takes place from swap partition or swap file, and if the designator for the swap isn't the same across the board, no dice. another possible point of failure: differences in needed modules, however minor, can bring the restore down
[01:05] <James_Epp> nyRednek: So you're saying if the root device isn't the same, no luck?
[01:05] <nyRednek> James_Epp, if the swap device is not the same
[01:06] <James_Epp> nyRednek: Could you define swap device? I understand swap space/partition, but not device.
[01:06] <nyRednek> the swap partition's device name in /dev is how i'm defining swap device
[01:07] <James_Epp> okay
[01:07] <nyRednek> the hardware between hibernate and awaken must be identical
[01:07] <nyRednek> at least in that regard
[01:07] <nyRednek> and the modules loaded, if they conflict with the new hardware, you're going to have prolems
[01:07] <nyRednek> problems
[01:08] <James_Epp> What if it was the same model number, but different physical machine? In our instance, two laptops of same model number.
[01:08] <nyRednek> restore from hibernation literally copies the dump from swap to memory
[01:08] <nyRednek> James_Epp, in that case, you might be all right
[01:09] <James_Epp> nyRednek: TY :D
[01:09] <James_Epp> We'll keep it in mind -- right, doorp? :P
[01:10] <nyRednek> James_Epp, but any hardware difference, however minor in appearance, can cause a module(driver) conflict with hardware and give you a bad day
[01:10] <nyRednek> meaning you will be forced to start with a fresh boot
[01:10] <James_Epp> nyRednek: I kinda expected a situation like that if it were crazy differneces.
[01:10] <James_Epp> But I thank you for the info!
[01:11] <nyRednek> James_Epp, since those modules will not only be loaded for the hardware, but will be configured for specific placement of the hardware(same position in bus)
[01:11] <James_Epp> gotcha, gotcha!
[01:12] <nyRednek> James_Epp, where loading a fresh boot will probe for where the hardware is(assuming you're talking about a liveusb with some interesting configuration options)
[01:13] <James_Epp> nyRednek: Yeah, I have a portable pendrive that I bring back and forth between amd and intel systems with basically no issues
[01:13] <nyRednek> James_Epp, if you're talking about just booting, you typically won't have any issues
[01:14] <James_Epp> What doorp has here is two similar (I assume identical) laptops in two different areas. He wants to work on stuff on one, go into hibernate, take the drive to the other system, and boot it up back to the same status.
[01:14] <nyRednek> James_Epp, i made a few liveusb systems with some form of session preservation starting with a minimal ubuntu and building from there
[01:14] <James_Epp> nyRednek: Fascinating, did you document it?
[01:15] <nyRednek> James_Epp, well, to be honest, it was already documented...look for "custom ubuntu livecd"
[01:15] <nyRednek> or "liveusb"
[01:15] <James_Epp> Thanks!
[01:15] <nyRednek> you have to install some stuff to build it
[01:15] <nyRednek> James_Epp, but nothing obscene
[01:16] <nyRednek> James_Epp, from that, it takes time to build...you'll be working in a fakeroot for a bit to get the packages you want to travel with you
[01:16] <James_Epp> nyRednek: ok
[01:17] <nyRednek> James_Epp, again, nothing particularly difficult if you keep documents handy
[01:18]  * nyRednek needs to do that again...wants to make a gpg/irssi/alpine/tmux/sc/wordgrinder/electrum chip
[01:19] <nyRednek> no gui at all involved :)
[01:19] <nyRednek> oh, and links2
[01:19] <nyRednek> just so i can have a browser
[02:03] <Gusbatero> Hi all! Is there someone who can help me? :)
[02:04] <doorp> James_Epp: Hey, I just got back, and read your discussion- thanks a lot!
[02:04] <doorp> nyRednek: Hey, how are you? Thanks a lot for sheding more insights and gotchas
[02:04] <nyRednek> doorp, i'm doing ok
[02:05] <Gusbatero> someone?
[02:05] <nyRednek> doorp, and np
[02:05] <nyRednek> Gusbatero, until you state your problem, no, no one can help you
[02:06] <Gusbatero> ok :)
[02:06] <doorp> nyRednek: You mentioned livecd, which I don't really understand- I thought livecd was about being able to boot on various types/kinds of hardware, so it's not really my situation? Or maybe by "livecd" you only meant the idea of booting from a portable device?
[02:07] <nyRednek> doorp, pretty much, yeah...
[02:07] <nyRednek> doorp, if you're booting from heterogeneous hardware, you'll need the probing abilities of a liveOS version
[02:08] <Gusbatero> my profile closes when I try to open a video, or try to change something in the configuration, etc, and goes to the login window. It doesn't happen when I enter with the invited profile, for example
[02:08] <nyRednek> Gusbatero, by your profile, are you referring to your login on your machine?
[02:09] <Gusbatero> yes
[02:09] <Gusbatero> i tried to log as Gest and it doesn happen.
[02:09] <nyRednek> Gusbatero, ok, does that login have sudo powers?
[02:09] <nyRednek> Gusbatero, ok, you may be having permissions issues
[02:10] <nyRednek> Gusbatero, there are a few ways you can fix this
[02:10] <Gusbatero> OK, tell me please
[02:11] <nyRednek> if it's a permissions issue "sudo chown -Rv user:user /home/user
[02:11] <nyRednek> of course, no beginning quote, and change all instances of the word "user" with your user's username
[02:11] <nyRednek> Gusbatero, otherwise, you may need to pull a slash and burn
[02:12] <nyRednek> that doesn't mean lose your data
[02:12] <Gusbatero> ok, but, my I do this from gest profile?
[02:12] <Gusbatero> may I
[02:12] <Gusbatero> ?
[02:12] <nyRednek> Gusbatero, no, don't
[02:12] <Gusbatero> how can I do that?
[02:12] <nyRednek> Gusbatero, do it from your normal user, in a shell
[02:13] <Gusbatero> ok, I will try it and let you know
[02:13] <Gusbatero> what do you mean with "pull a slash and burn"? My english is not so good...
[02:15] <WLShafor> Hello all
[02:16] <WLShafor> I'm seeking some helpo
[02:16] <WLShafor> I just used my last CDR to burn a copy for Xubuntu 6.06.1
[02:16] <Gusbatero> ok, I will try and come back to let know. Thanks!
[02:16] <WLShafor> and I want to upgrade to the newest release
[02:16] <WLShafor> any way I can do this?
[02:16] <bazhang> WLShafor, yes
[02:17] <bazhang> get the latest iso, and reinstall
[02:17] <WLShafor> when I go to Applications/System/Update Manager I'm not able to get the 6.10 upgrade :(
[02:17] <bazhang> use a usb stick
[02:17] <WLShafor> I do not have any CDR's
[02:17] <WLShafor> how do I upgrade using a USB?
[02:17] <bazhang> thats good, as you can use a usb stick
[02:18] <bazhang> download the iso
[02:18] <WLShafor> k
[02:18] <bazhang> burn to usb
[02:18] <bazhang> overwrite the 6.06 system completely
[02:18] <WLShafor> what app works best inside Xubuntu 6.06.1 for making usb bootable iso?
[02:18] <bazhang> none
[02:19] <WLShafor> so download newest release and just drag & drop the image tile to the usb stick?
[02:19] <bazhang> not quite
[02:19] <bazhang> there are tools to do it with
[02:19] <WLShafor> such as?
[02:19] <bazhang> !unetbootin
[02:19] <bazhang> you will need another system for this to work, I suspect
[02:22] <WLShafor> hm...
[02:22] <WLShafor> thanks ill try my best I hope I can get to update I only have 1 laptop and a iPhone :\
[02:22] <WLShafor> and right now running Xubuntu 6.06.1
[02:23] <krytarik> WLShafor, just use "dd" for that: http://askubuntu.com/questions/59551/how-to-burn-iso-to-usb-device
[02:24] <Gusbatero> Hi nyRednek! I'm back!
[02:24] <nyRednek> Gusbatero, did that help?
[02:25] <Gusbatero> I had a problem with "chmod". It tells that ":" is wrong. Could you repeat what I have to write?
[02:27] <nyRednek> oh, chown...that was my fault
[02:27] <Gusbatero> :)
[02:31] <Gusbatero> ?
[02:37] <Gusbatero> OK. Is there someone who can help me? I was chating with nyRednek but he went out.
[02:38] <Unit193> What was the problem?  I see something about your profile logging out when you play a video?
[02:42] <Gusbatero> hi Unit193!
[02:42] <Gusbatero> yes, not only with videos, also when I try to change something in my configuration, or open a shell, its very strange...
[02:43] <Unit193> Indeed, what's /var/log/Xorg.0.log or ~/.xsession-errors say right after?  Did you happen to nuke ~/.cache/
[02:44] <Gusbatero> now I am in my profile yet. Do you want me to put this in a shell to see what says?
[02:50] <Gusbatero> Unit193, are you there?
[02:51] <Unit193> Yes.  The first two are files, you should check them next time your session logs out.
[02:52] <Gusbatero> how can I check it when I am in the login window? I' sorry but I don't know
[02:53] <Unit193> Drop to a TTY and login there, CTRL+ALT+F1
[02:53] <Unit193> !tty
[02:56] <Gusbatero> OK, thank you Unit. I have to go offline now. I will try to do that tomorrow. Thank you for your help!!!
[11:00] <xubuntu437> d
[11:12] <lesbian_green> hi, i got a problem: when i boot my xubuntu system and i enter the password, the desktop won't load and i can't do anything. The only "solution" i found so far: when i first enter a wrong password and get the confirmation that it wasn't right, and then type in the correct password, the desktop loads and i can use my system, any ideas how i can fix that? btw, i'm new to linux.
[11:13] <cfhowlett> lesbian_green, I'd reset the password
[11:13] <cfhowlett> !password
[11:14] <lesbian_green> ok thx so far, i'll give it a try
[15:43] <nasir> hi my vlc crashes when i put it in full screen. my brightness can also not decrease. moreover what app can i use to save power.
[15:46] <baizon> nasir: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower
[15:47] <nasir> baizon thanks. by the way how do i send a private message
[15:47] <baizon> nasir: what program do you use?
[15:48] <Sysi> I think /msg person is universal
[15:48] <nasir> baizon: Xchat
[15:48] <baizon> nasir: right click on nick and "Open dialog window"
[15:49] <baizon> or type: /msg <nickname> <message>
[16:08] <Xyverz> can somebody tell me where the xfce/xubuntu startup applications config file is located? For some reason, Conky is starting up twice. It's pretty annoying.
[16:09] <Sysi> settings -> sessions and startup, there's autostart, but session manager can autostart applications too
[16:12] <Xyverz> Is there a text config file for it? I need to find out why Conky is starting twice, and the GUI only shows conky in there once.
[16:34] <Xyverz> hmm. it appears to only do it on first boot. subsequent logins don't have this problem.
[16:36] <GridCube> check that you dont have stored sessions for xfce, maybe that is restoring conky before the autostart of applications¿?
[16:54] <nasir> how do i install adobe flash player.tar.gz?
[16:57] <torax> nasir: you can get flashplugin-installer from repos
[16:57] <torax> or was it flashplugin-nonfree
[17:04] <xubuntu699> d
[17:09] <xubuntu487> hello /ciao
[17:11] <xubuntu487> 'm trying to instal xubuntu into usb stick (32gb). Do i really need the swap partition? my pc has 8 gb ram
[17:12] <Sysi> no absolutely necessary, but it also doesn't need to be as big as your RAM if you're not gonna enable hibernation
[17:14] <xubuntu487> the point is: my first try 16gb root partition 16gb swap... but xubunto was totally slow, almost inusable. I tought it was the swap file on the usb 2.0, so i'm trying a new installation without the swap partition
[17:14] <xubuntu487> 'm doing it right?
[17:16] <Sysi> I'm inclined to think it's the root on usb2 stick that makes it slow
[17:17] <xubuntu487> i followe a guide on ubuntu page. what do you suggest me?
[17:17] <Sysi> though after using it for a while it should be faster because everything is cached
[17:17] <xubuntu487> I'd like to have the system into a usb stick
[17:17] <Sysi> I suggest usb3 if your mobo has it or another hard disk if you don't want to change your windows partition
[17:19] <xubuntu487> mmmm this means that's xubuntu cant really load smootly from an usb 2.0? it's a pity :\
[17:19] <Sysi> with enough tweaking it probably could..
[17:20] <xubuntu487> can you suggest me a guide ?
[17:20] <Sysi> sorry, not really
[17:21] <xubuntu487> thank u anyway :)
[17:24] <xubuntu487> reboot
[17:28] <xubuntu024> I need a little help. Qbittorrent stopped opening after clicking on a magnet link. A new issue! Any help would be appreciated.
[17:35] <xubuntu024> The popup nototification with open torrent with Qbittorrent is blank and says choose application to open torrent. I'm stumped as to what to do.
[17:56] <GridCube> do you have more than one torrent manager?
[17:57] <GridCube> if you do its better to remove it, maybe do a sudo apt-get install qbittorrent --reinstall
[17:59] <xubuntu024> No. Qbittorrent only. Been using Xubuntu for a month now, and anomalies like this keep coming up.
[18:01] <GridCube> weird
[18:01] <xubuntu024> I uninstalled in Software Center (Remove). Reinstalled, rebooted. Still no automatic dwnld of torrents.
[18:02] <GridCube> the magnet link asociation can be made from the firefox settings, you choose with what to open the link from there
[18:02] <GridCube> you can also open teh mimetype editor and check that its configured properly to torrents
[18:02] <GridCube> though i don think you can setup .magnet there
[18:06] <xubuntu024> Wierd. I just now copied link on webpage. In File > Add link to torrent>auto pasted magnet link... worked. Not automatic though. Man!
[18:37] <xubuntu024> Hmm. why does Bansee sound better than Clementine playin' music?
[18:41] <foggy> yuo touch my ta-la-la,my din-din-don)
[19:35] <mutzs> 1
[21:50] <Gusbatero> Hi all! I have a strange problem. My profiles closes to the log window when I try to do something...
[21:56] <Gusbatero> No one here? :(
[22:14] <Gusbatero> Hi! Is there someone who can help me with my problem?
[22:17] <Miningdude> Gusbatero: Depending on the question. You might just want to ask the question and be patient while people come and go from the channel.
[22:18] <Gusbatero> OK Miningdude. Thanks. Those are my first times here! I didn't know
[22:19] <Miningdude> Gusbatero: No problem! We all learn in time. Again, just ask and someone should be with you eventually. I, sadly, am not probably able to help.
[22:20] <Gusbatero> Ok. So I will be here for a time and wait for someone who can help me. Thank you very much!
[22:22] <Miningdude> Gusbatero: Again, just ask. :P
[22:25] <Gusbatero> OK. My problem is that, when I do something like open a video, or try to change a configuration of start or open a shell, my user profile closes and shows the log window. When I enter it opens some programs that were opened before
[22:26] <Gusbatero> like it repeats a saved profile
[22:28] <Gusbatero> ok. It seems is solved! I erased saved sessions and now it works fine! Hope this lasts!
[23:19] <xubuntu514> ballz
[23:19] <xubuntu514> zllab 'o ballz
[23:20] <xubuntu514> Fish tank chat ?
[23:21] <xubuntu514> Must be waterlogged, everybody's got wood.
[23:22] <xubuntu514> nubuntu is better