[00:44] hey marcoceppi, around and free? === defunctzombie is now known as defunctzombie_zz === defunctzombie_zz is now known as defunctzombie === defunctzombie is now known as defunctzombie_zz [03:39] hey guys, question, how do I know which directory is the charm going to be into? let's say I want to use a.txt on my charm and I want to locate it, where would it be? [03:40] or I should just specify the directory? === defunctzombie_zz is now known as defunctzombie === defunctzombie is now known as defunctzombie_zz === defunctzombie_zz is now known as defunctzombie === defunctzombie is now known as defunctzombie_zz === defunctzombie_zz is now known as defunctzombie === defunctzombie is now known as defunctzombie_zz === _thumper_ is now known as thumper [12:53] JoseeAntonioR: All hooks start in the root of the charm. There is also a $CHARM_DIR environment variable that is set, so if you ever cd out of the charm directory you can get back to it with that variable [13:20] gary_poster: ping [13:20] sidnei, pong [13:21] hi gary_poster, had a question about juju-gui: does it display services deployed via command line or only those dployed via the gui? [13:21] sidnei, all (both command line and gui) [13:21] gary_poster: so if i have an existing environment and deploy juju-gui to it afterwards the existing services will show up just fine? [13:22] sidnei, yes [13:22] gary_poster: mighty cool. thanks! [13:22] welcome sidnei :-) [13:30] holy connected graph batman, it works. [13:31] sidnei, pic or it didn't happen [13:32] beuno: http://ubuntuone.com/4q8wr0gtdb7Tyu5XDKsYX1 [13:33] gary_poster: btw, i was confused for several seconds while it loaded the environment, there was no visible indication that anything was happening [13:34] sidnei, for pic, majority of those are subordinates, right? [13:34] sidnei, I ask because we plan to make those pictures (with subordinate graphs in particular) a lot prettier for this cycle [13:34] gary_poster: yes, and i think i might be misusing those subordinates, i believe only one would be ok for all services instead of one per service [13:35] cool sidnei, yeah. IS likes separate ones in order to upgrade individually, so they have similar issues [13:35] even though yes, typically they could be collapsed [13:35] gary_poster: ah, i knew there was a reason [13:36] sidnei, no visible indication anything was happening: we have a spinner which is supposed to give some visual reassurance. was that early, late, absent, or insufficient? [13:36] "that" == the spinner [13:39] gary_poster: i didn't see any spinner nope [13:40] weird sidnei, ok. If you go to [GUI IP]/juju-ui/version.js in the browser what does it tell you? [13:41] gary_poster: var jujuGuiVersionInfo=['0.6.1', '753']; [13:41] gary_poster: ah, sorry. so reloading, there was indeed a spinner [13:42] sidnei, oh ok. so it was insufficient [13:42] gary_poster: so *after* the spinner, i got the open charm browser drawer and a blank canvas for like 60+ seconds [13:42] sidnei, ah! ok, haven't seen. I'll file a bug. Thanks! [13:42] gary_poster: and then i was clicking around and suddenly the services showed up magically [13:43] heh [13:43] ack, yeah, not cool. I'll subscribe you to the bug, for the heck of it :-) [13:44] sidnei, probably doesn't matter, but just in case, what browser and what juju environment? [13:44] (ec2, openstack, etc. and pyjuju vs juju core) [13:44] gary_poster: chrome Version 28.0.1500.63 beta, canonistack, pyjuju [13:44] perfect thanks again sidnei [13:45] gary_poster: is there a planned feature to hide a specific service? nagios is like the eye of sauron and makes everything else impossible to see [13:45] sidnei, lol, yes, generally. last two months of cycle is "environment power tools" for stuff like that. [13:46] cool, thanks muchly [13:50] http://ubuntuone.com/2VrziUdvYEXdOHo2Os117T with nagios removed and manually aligned things [13:51] much better :-) === wedgwood_away is now known as wedgwood === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw === defunctzombie_zz is now known as defunctzombie === stevanr_ is now known as stevanr === agy_ is now known as agy === defunctzombie is now known as defunctzombie_zz === defunctzombie_zz is now known as defunctzombie [19:04] gary_poster: (or someone else) is there an svg of the juju logo? [19:04] sidnei, yeah...looking [19:29] sidnei: still need that SVG file? [19:29] robbiew: nope, got it [19:29] I've got one, if so [19:29] cool [19:29] doing some slides for my presentation tomorrow, redoing niemeyer's diagrams [19:40] nice! [19:55] anyone have the link handy for the recorded version of friday's juju charm school? [19:56] Akira1: https://juju.ubuntu.com/resources/videos/ [19:57] specifically -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08dOs3eO04M [19:58] thanks :) [19:58] Akira1: damn...but it looks like it wasn't recorded properly [19:58] er, :~~~( [19:58] * robbiew checking [19:58] gary_poster: going to http://uistage.jujucharms.com:8080/ gives me some unstyled html atm, as if the css isn't loading [19:59] nevermind...user error [19:59] yeah looks like it is ok to me [19:59] sidnei, don't see it. more details? Maybe dupe steps? [20:00] gary_poster: i wonder if i got a broken cached version [20:00] gary_poster: it loads instantly as if cached locally, but no css [20:01] oh, not sure how i got to 8080 [20:01] :80 works fine [20:01] ok cool [20:01] though 8080 does for me too... [20:01] mm, one idea [20:02] sidnei, do you see uistage 8080 when you go to chrome://appcache-internals/ [20:02] we don't use the appcache anymore [20:02] because of issues like this [20:02] gary_poster: yup [20:03] sidnei, ah ok. kill that and then 8080 will work fine too. [20:03] Size: 29.8 kB [20:03] Creation Time: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 4:25:00 PM [20:03] Last Update Time: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 4:25:00 PM [20:03] Last Access Time: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 5:00:12 PM [20:03] sidnei, yeah, pretty old :-) === defunctzombie is now known as defunctzombie_zz === defunctzombie_zz is now known as defunctzombie === defunctzombie is now known as defunctzombie_zz [20:46] will juju work with AWS free tier? [20:47] I try to follow the steps at juju documentation page and getting 'error: use of closed network connection' on 'juju bootstrap' [20:47] any help would be appreciated [20:53] ooops - it worked [21:04] I see the bootstrap instance in the EC2 management console but can't do 'juju status' [21:04] error: no instances found [21:04] balafi: give it some time to start up [21:05] balafi: Amazon free tier is for micro instances AFAIK but juju will spin up m1.small instances by default. [21:05] balafi: which zone? [21:06] us-west-2 [21:06] balafi: I've had issues with ap-southeast-2 [21:06] balafi: where the api lies [21:06] however us-* ones have been good generally [21:06] balafi: can you see it in the AWS web console (the instance)? [21:06] yes [21:06] its m1.small [21:07] its 'running', 2/2 check passed [21:07] I have ocasional problems in eu-west-1, too. [21:07] try juju status again. [21:07] I had hard time to bootstrap also [21:08] I was getting error and then it worked with me doing any changes [21:08] without changes [21:09] balafi: it seems to be a problem with the api [21:09] which makes me sad [21:10] as there is nothing I can help with immediately [21:10] no problem [21:11] thumper: I have seen occasional glitches in the api in the past, outside of juju. I think it wants very defensive programming. :-( [21:12] henninge: yeah... kinda sucks [21:12] I find it frustrating because ap-southeast-2 is closest to me [21:12] and it doesn't work very well [21:12] or at least, we don't work well with it [21:13] it seems weird that different regions have different API results [21:13] or interactions [21:13] versioning maybe? [21:13] I'm not sure, but a frustrated user [21:15] Hm, I have not yet used different regions, let alone compared results. === defunctzombie_zz is now known as defunctzombie === defunctzombie is now known as defunctzombie_zz === defunctzombie_zz is now known as defunctzombie === defunctzombie is now known as defunctzombie_zz === koolhead17 is now known as koolhead17|zzZZ === defunctzombie_zz is now known as defunctzombie === defunctzombie is now known as defunctzombie_zz === defunctzombie_zz is now known as defunctzombie === wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away === defunctzombie is now known as defunctzombie_zz