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akoma1sScottK: thanks!02:12
ScottKjono: Part of the problem is that one advantage Canonical gets since they own both ends of the interface between Unity and Mir is the ability to change API as they need to to evolve things rapidly.  That's great for Canonical, but perfectly unsuitable for anyone else.02:26
dantti_laptopQuintasan: thanks, yes, one of the reasons I really want Tanglu is because of systemd :P hopefully soon I can make a new update of sessionk02:42
ScottKSo, looking over sabfl's blog post on the CAG, I get the impression that we are supposed to be pleased Ubuntu will be even MORE about what Canonical's customers want and less about community input.02:48
* ScottK doesn't get that.02:48
cortexA9hello all04:55
cortexA9sometimes kde crash on the daily. You know that ?04:57
cortexA94.10.9004:58
cortexA9waitin for the daily of today.04:58
Quintasandantti_laptop: Well, the systemd binary package is so crippled in Ubuntu I don't even know where to begin -> eg. no /lib/systemd/systemd binary05:26
Quintasanbeacuse "We don't support systemd"05:26
cortexA9when we can see kde beta on the daily ?05:27
ScottKcortexA9: You don't need to reinstall, so the daily doesn't matter.  Just install all package updates and you'll have it.05:30
soeegood morning06:21
smartboyhwHello soee 06:28
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Guest56995Launchpad.net often reminds me of a black hole, so I'll ask. Did any of the KDE packagers see my bug with KRDC not working? https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/119646609:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1196466 in Kubuntu PPA "krdc xfreerdp version mismatch" [Undecided,New]09:03
RiddellGuest56995: yes thanks, I do need to look into krdc, I'll tag that to make sure I find it again09:03
ahoneybunRiddell: is someone going to update calligra to 2.6.409:03
Guest56995Riddell: Thanks :-)09:03
Riddellahoneybun: I've not heard of anyone working on it09:05
Riddellahoneybun: how did digikam go?09:05
ahoneybunyofel finished it up 09:05
ahoneybunI see the backport ppa has 2.6.309:05
Riddellahoneybun: I'll kill your ec2 instance then09:06
ahoneybunok09:06
Riddellahoneybun: calligra 2.6.4 isn't a priority because there's the beta of 2.6.92 out there already, but if you're interested do let me know09:07
Riddell(calligra is even more of a beast than digikam)09:07
* ahoneybun is rethinking then09:07
* apachelogger is bored by the locale madness -.-09:07
Riddellapachelogger: have you not fixed it already?09:08
apacheloggerrm -rf is the fix09:08
ahoneybunelementary are using bounty's to get bugs fixed09:08
apacheloggerQLocale::system() follows LC_NUMERIC when defined, and it's always defined on a somewhat recent install, but our KCM doesn't overwrite it....09:09
Riddellcanonical tried bounties back when it started mostly for features, ended up being as much effort put into administration as into fixing the issues09:09
ahoneybunoh09:09
ahoneybunI'm looking for small packages to get my feet wet09:09
Riddellahoneybun: libkolab has a new version if you want to explore the world of libraries09:11
Riddellpartitionmanager could do with a sync from debian09:12
Riddellor merge09:12
smartboyhwHey ahoneybun Riddell apachelogger 09:12
ahoneybunhey smartboyhw09:12
ahoneybunRiddell: you mean kde partitionmanager09:13
ahoneybun?09:13
* apachelogger looks at slowgit09:13
apacheloggersmartboyhw: yo09:13
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1196869] DBUs-Signatures are not verified aganist too long or messages or to deep recursions @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1196869 (by Walter Schneider)09:13
Riddellahoneybun: yes09:13
* ahoneybun needs a to do list09:13
apacheloggerweeeh, qt patches in lunchpad09:14
smartboyhwahoneybun, use Trello?09:14
apachelogger:@09:14
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: maybe09:14
smartboyhwapachelogger, :@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@09:14
ahoneybunI mean I only have like one thing if I want to 09:15
smartboyhwahoneybun, sure, make a TODO:)09:16
ahoneybunRiddell: we have 5 pages done for the Docs09:16
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: I know trello lol09:16
smartboyhwahoneybun, I know09:16
ahoneybunll09:16
smartboyhwahoneybun, so you wanna do the merge?09:17
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: wondering how to "merge"09:17
smartboyhwahoneybun, http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/udd-merging.html (but I think Riddell will use another method, dunno)09:18
Riddellyeah I'll just do it manually09:18
* smartboyhw wonders should he make an actual package of sessionk into archive:P09:19
smartboyhwSince we got it in neon already09:19
smartboyhw(Just kidding)09:19
ahoneybunanyway off I go.09:20
Riddellahoneybun: https://merges.ubuntu.com/p/partitionmanager/ might be handy for the diff09:20
Riddellahoneybun: with any luck ubuntu changes won't be needed and you can just file a merge request on launchpad09:20
Riddellahoneybun: if ubuntu changes still  needed then merge them in to the debian package, test and upload09:21
smartboyhwRiddell, heck, we have that page? 09:22
* smartboyhw should have checked THAT out.09:22
shadeslayerbah09:26
shadeslayerpkg-kde-tools needs backporting09:26
apacheloggerhttp://quickgit.kde.org/?p=clones%2Fkde-runtime%2Fsitter%2Fkubuntu.git09:27
shadeslayerapachelogger: and what exactly is that?09:30
apacheloggera clone09:31
shadeslayerI can see that, but why :P09:31
apacheloggerbecause l10n is running wild09:33
shadeslayer*shrug*09:36
smartboyhwInteresting, I saw a debian-mentors email for RFS of rekonq 2.3.1:P09:36
smartboyhwJust yesterday it seems09:37
apacheloggerRFS = really flipping silly09:38
shadeslayer^^09:38
smartboyhwapachelogger, duh, it's Requesting for Sponsorship...09:39
smartboyhwshadeslayer, why does pkg-kde-tools require backporting?09:39
apacheloggerIIO09:39
smartboyhwapachelogger, ?09:39
apacheloggerisn't it obvious09:39
shadeslayersmartboyhw: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.10.90_quantal.html09:39
smartboyhwshadeslayer, apachelogger ah ah ah ah ah ah09:40
* smartboyhw has forgotten the backporting of 4.10.9009:40
apacheloggerso much backportery09:40
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smartboyhwHeck, the 4.10.90 status is long enough:P09:40
smartboyhwGuys, is there a reason not for us to package libdebconf-kde?09:50
apachelogger!info libdebconf-kde-dev09:51
ubottulibdebconf-kde-dev (source: debconf-kde): Development headers for the Debconf KDE library. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-2 (raring), package size 4 kB, installed size 51 kB09:51
apacheloggersmartboyhw: WPIIS09:51
shadeslayeryou and your acronyms09:51
apacheloggerit's the debian way09:51
smartboyhwapachelogger, alright09:54
smartboyhwapachelogger, hmm, it isn't latest09:54
smartboyhw!info libdebconf-kde-dev saucy09:54
ubottulibdebconf-kde-dev (source: debconf-kde): Development headers for the Debconf KDE library. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-2 (saucy), package size 4 kB, installed size 51 kB09:54
smartboyhwMEH09:55
smartboyhwThere's 0.3.0 out there now.09:55
smartboyhwSo, should I package 0.3?09:56
apachelogger*shrug*09:56
apacheloggerJontheEchidna will know09:56
smartboyhwAlright09:56
smartboyhw!info libdebconf-kde-dev precise09:57
ubottulibdebconf-kde-dev (source: debconf-kde): Development headers for the Debconf KDE library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2-2 (precise), package size 4 kB, installed size 51 kB09:57
smartboyhw:P It never changed09:57
smartboyhwVery stable09:57
apacheloggerand another qt5 try \o/09:58
Quintasanhmm10:15
Quintasanfuck yeah it's over?10:15
QuintasanYES10:15
QuintasanI CAN GO BACK TO SERIOUS BUSINESS NOW10:15
smartboyhw!language | Quintasan :P10:15
ubottuQuintasan :P: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.10:15
* Quintasan throws a brick at smartboyhw10:16
shadeslayerQuintasan: hm, so, kpeople10:16
QuintasanI'm always professional10:16
* smartboyhw hides10:16
QuintasanEven when throwing bricks at people10:16
smartboyhwQuintasan, not "family-friendly"10:16
BluesKajHiyas all10:16
Quintasansmartboyhw: Being professional > being familiy-friendly10:16
QuintasanBluesKaj: hi there10:16
Quintasanshadeslayer: What do you want me to do with this?10:16
QuintasanPackage for saucy?10:16
BluesKajhi Quintasan10:17
smartboyhwQuintasan, but being family-friendly is what you should follow;P10:17
shadeslayerQuintasan: I have some packaging in a ppa10:17
Quintasansmartboyhw: I don't think we have chil...oh wait :P10:17
shadeslayerhttps://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/kpeople10:17
QuintasanBesides shadeslayer10:17
* Quintasan throws a brick at shadeslayer10:17
* shadeslayer blasts it with is laser10:17
QuintasanYou are doing libkpeople dailies for ktp10:17
Quintasanhell10:18
Quintasanthose are dailies10:18
Quintasanshadeslayer: Did it have a tarball release?10:18
shadeslayerQuintasan: kinda, those are currently FTBFS and I was waiting for Martin to merge everything10:18
shadeslayerQuintasan: nope10:18
QuintasanYou do realise I'm generally against putting that stuff in repos10:18
QuintasanI can put it in KTp ppa if you want me to10:19
shadeslayerit was never meant to go into repos10:19
QuintasanSo what you want me to do dailies for it?10:19
Quintasan-waht10:19
* Quintasan has trouble following shadeslayer line of thought10:20
shadeslayerQuintasan: primarily those were a kind of experimental build10:20
shadeslayerand never meant to really go into production10:20
shadeslayerand then Martin changed the branch I think10:20
QuintasanI sometimes get the idea that almost anything you do is never meant for production :P10:21
QuintasanWell10:21
shadeslayer-.-10:21
QuintasanSure10:21
QuintasanI'll give it a go10:21
shadeslayerfeel free to, have fun keeping up with the branches :P10:22
QuintasanChrist10:22
QuintasanGood thing I read what people write to me10:23
Quintasanshadeslayer: 10:23
Quintasan<d_ed> Quintasan: I don't think we want it packaged in the dailies just yet, as it needs a bit of work10:23
Quintasan<d_ed> but if you can do it in a week or two, that would be fantastic10:23
QuintasanNot doing it then10:23
shadeslayerk10:23
QuintasanAt least now10:23
* apachelogger packages Quintasan10:23
smartboyhwQuintasan, LOL10:25
* smartboyhw removes all bricks from the channel10:25
smartboyhwdput ppa:kubuntu-ninjas/ppa quintasan_1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc10:25
smartboyhwapachelogger, :)10:25
apacheloggersmartboyhw: ITQIV0.3A10:26
smartboyhwapachelogger, please write full english10:28
smartboyhw!english | apachelogger 10:28
ubottuapachelogger: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList10:28
smartboyhwEh....10:28
apacheloggersmartboyhw: IAWEIJHTWABTITDWODT10:29
smartboyhwapachelogger, !?!?!!?!?!!??!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!??!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!10:29
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apachelogger:O10:29
* smartboyhw revenges at apachelogger using that:P10:29
=== smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.10.90 saucy in archive, raring in beta ppa, quantal in staging PPA | 4.10.5 ninjas/raring WIP | 4.10.4 in raring-updates | 13.10 Alpha 1 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj
Quintasanherp derp10:59
QuintasanQuintasan (1.0-0ubutu1) ACCEPTED10:59
* Quintasan wonders if there is any merit in using Opera anymore11:05
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* apachelogger fears that qt5 may be stuck again :O11:17
apacheloggerah phew11:18
apacheloggerRiddell: why did we drop language-selector btw?11:22
shadeslayerapachelogger: ubuntu was moving away from l-s IIRC11:25
shadeslayerand this was discussed at the last UDS11:25
apacheloggerwell the codez still needs to be somewhere11:25
apacheloggerthe logic behind that is11:25
shadeslayerapachelogger: seems like Qt5 built fine?11:26
Riddellapachelogger: because ubuntu desktop were getting rid of it, except I suspect they never did11:26
apacheloggerdidn't I fix bug 964046 already11:26
ubottubug 964046 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Blank, unselectable wallpaper listed in Desktop Settings" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96404611:26
shadeslayernope11:26
apacheloggerI thought I did11:26
shadeslayerapachelogger: that was for Riddell :P11:26
shadeslayerapachelogger: your bug seems fixed11:26
apachelogger* Add kubuntu_dont_list_kde-default_wallpaper.patch to prevent our fake11:27
apachelogger  wallpaper symlink kde-default.png from showing up in the dialog.11:27
apachelogger  The code apparently doesn't like symlinks so it has no preview and it11:27
apachelogger  was not meant to be used directly anyway.11:27
apachelogger4:4.10.2-0ubuntu211:27
shadeslayerRiddell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/0.11311:27
shadeslayerso someone did do an upload to saucy with some features/fixes11:27
Riddellyeah, I suspect they never did what they said they'd do of integrating it with the gnome bits11:28
RiddellI think it's much nicer being integrated in, but it probably won't be as reliable at doing everything right11:28
apacheloggerwell, we need additional backing logic and some thigns simply don't map from a KDE perspective11:29
apacheloggere.g. locale formats11:29
apacheloggerin KDE you can define semi-arbitrary combinations11:29
apacheloggerposix doesn't have this flexibility11:29
apacheloggerso11:29
apacheloggerwhat we could do is introduce a new tab for system language configuration11:30
apacheloggeror rather a new kcm I guess11:30
apacheloggerright now you have no UI way to configure the global language anyway11:31
Riddellthat's just what language-selector was11:31
Riddellwe might as well go back to language-selector if we do that11:31
apacheloggeryeah11:31
Riddellwhich might be the best thing to do11:31
apacheloggerI mean11:31
apacheloggerwe have a system vs user scope problem anyway11:31
apacheloggerso at the very least there would need to be a button "apply these settigns to the entire system"11:32
apacheloggerwhich is not very nice and given the mapping problems from kde to posix that may not work that well either11:32
apacheloggershadeslayer: so it seems qt5 built11:33
apacheloggerbut it has no multimedia and no qtwebkit11:33
apacheloggerand why those two cause trouble is beyond me11:33
apacheloggerparticularly qtwebkit is just weird11:33
apacheloggerrecursively invoking qmake ....11:33
apacheloggermakes no sense11:33
shadeslayerI see11:34
shadeslayerapachelogger: does it build locally?11:34
apacheloggerno11:34
apacheloggerwell11:34
shadeslayerso file a bug upstream?11:34
apacheloggerit builds if I manually runt he commands11:34
apacheloggerand it builds if I maually build it to begin with11:34
apacheloggerit just doesn't build when run from dpkg-buildpackage11:34
shadeslayer0.o11:34
apacheloggerand it doesn't have anything to do with the neon build magic either because plain dh also causes the problem11:35
apacheloggerutterly weird11:35
shadeslayerapachelogger: I thought qtwebkit had it's own git repo?11:37
apacheloggerso?11:37
shadeslayerdid you merge everything together into one tar?11:37
apacheloggerthat's how building from source is supposed to be done11:38
shadeslayer( I haven't looked at the source at all )11:38
shadeslayerwhut11:38
apacheloggerthere's a meta repo that git submodules everything11:38
shadeslayerbleh11:38
shadeslayerwhy not split it into different sources?11:39
apacheloggermore work to maintain11:39
shadeslayerbut then it might work?11:39
apacheloggeryes, then I might have worked around the problem11:39
shadeslayerit = QtMultimedia / QtWebkit11:40
apacheloggerwhich are not blocking kf511:40
* shadeslayer looks at source11:40
apacheloggerdh = -a11:44
apacheloggeryofel: ^11:45
apacheloggerwhat does that do btw?11:45
shadeslayerpkg-kde-tools uploaded12:36
shadeslayernow to wait for it to build12:36
RiddellScottK: able to review the kscreen SRU? bug 119580612:47
ubottubug 1195806 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Raring) "libkscreen and kscreen SRU to raring" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119580612:47
yofelapachelogger: ask Quintasan why that's there, AFAICS that's redundant13:28
Quintasanwhat13:29
QuintasanI didn't do anything with that package13:29
Quintasanask shadeslayer13:29
shadeslayer*shrug* dunno myself13:30
* shadeslayer is waiting for Neon Qt to build on his machine13:31
yofelQuintasan: I am fairly certain that you did touch project-neon-qt at some point :P13:32
Quintasanehh13:32
QuintasanI could have touched it13:32
yofelalthough13:32
Quintasanbut that was a long time ago13:32
yofelnvm13:32
yofel38  yofel@g | dh = -a13:32
yofel-.-13:32
yofelhm, no, that's from you, I just moved that around13:35
QuintasanI have no idea what that does13:41
QuintasanI'm pretty much sure I never used that13:41
Quintasanyofel: Which package are we actually talking about?13:46
yofelneon qt(5)13:46
Quintasanproject-neon5-qt5.install13:46
Quintasanthis?13:46
QuintasanI didn't do that13:46
yofelno, rules13:46
QuintasanI didn't do that package at all13:47
yofelhe forked that from qt-ubuntu13:47
Quintasancommitter: Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com>13:47
Quintasanhuh13:47
QuintasanHMMMMM13:49
QuintasanYes, indeed. Looks like I did that13:49
QuintasanBut now I don't remember what that switch does13:49
Quintasannor it's documented13:49
shadeslayer       Commands in the build-indep, install-indep and binary-indep sequences are passed the -i option to ensure they only work on architecture independent packages, and commands in the build-arch, install-arch and binary-arch13:50
shadeslayer       sequences are passed the -a option to ensure they only work on architecture dependent packages.13:50
shadeslayerfrom the man page13:50
Quintasanahhh13:53
QuintasanI was looking at man dh13:53
Quintasannot debhelper13:53
Quintasanduh13:53
shadeslayerthat is from man dh13:54
shadeslayer:P13:54
shadeslayerand what yofel said earlier, seems redundant13:54
QuintasanNo it's not13:54
Quintasanoh wait13:55
Quintasanit's there as well13:55
shadeslayer:)13:55
QuintasanI did /-a 13:55
QuintasanHidden as hell!13:55
Quintasanshadeslayer: akonadi-facebook is supposed to die, right?14:00
smartboyhw_kubotu: newversion libkgapi 2.0.114:01
shadeslayerQuintasan: already did14:01
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119697714:01
shadeslayeror should have14:01
* Quintasan purges akonadi-facebook14:01
smartboyhw_kubotu: newversion sflphone 1.2.314:01
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119697814:01
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* smartboyhw will do the libkgapi14:03
smartboyhwIt would be great if someone can do sflphone especially since 1.2.0 is stuck in -proposed due to armhf and powerpc build issues14:04
smartboyhwshadeslayer, how did you fix a package (I forgotten which) with tests?14:05
shadeslayeroverride_dh_auto_testsL14:05
shadeslayervoila 'fixed' :P14:05
smartboyhwshadeslayer, any commands beneath override_dh_auto_tests?14:07
shadeslayeroverride_dh_auto_tests:14:07
smartboyhwUh huh14:07
smartboyhwThen?14:07
shadeslayer    # Send a report to upstream about test breakage14:08
shadeslayerdone14:08
QuintasanThat's just disabling them14:08
Quintasanshadeslayer's production work14:08
Quintasan:P14:08
shadeslayerthat's why I said 'fixed'14:08
QuintasanThat's why I'm poking fun at you :P14:08
smartboyhwQuintasan, any better ways to fix?14:08
Quintasansmartboyhw: Nope, patch the tests to work14:08
Quintasanno other way around it if they are broken14:09
smartboyhwQuintasan, the problem is that it just can't find the tests14:09
Quintasansmartboyhw: Is this package supposed to go to main or it's in universe?14:09
shadeslayerscramble ICBM's to upstream14:09
smartboyhwQuintasan, that's universe14:09
smartboyhwshadeslayer, what's ICBMs?14:09
QuintasanLeave them disabled then14:10
shadeslayersmartboyhw: Intercontinental Ballistic Missle14:10
shadeslayersmartboyhw: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercontinental_ballistic_missile14:10
QuintasanOkay, HQ out, heading for a meeting14:10
smartboyhwshadeslayer, LOL14:10
QuintasanScottK: I'm probably going to help out with systemd transition in Debian14:10
smartboyhwshadeslayer, that doesn't disable them14:11
shadeslayerpastebin rules14:12
smartboyhwshadeslayer, http://paste.kde.org/787370/14:12
smartboyhwOh damn, I know the problem14:12
yofel^^14:13
Quintasanthe underscore14:13
Quintasanlol14:13
shadeslayerdat underscore14:13
smartboyhwHuman stupidness:P14:13
smartboyhw_______14:13
yofeland the trailing s14:13
Quintasan-_________________________-14:13
shadeslayerthat too14:13
Quintasanmr wideface14:13
smartboyhwshadeslayer, does that have an s?14:13
shadeslayersmartboyhw: have you checked what is causing the failing tests though?14:13
shadeslayersmartboyhw: no, dh_auto_test14:13
smartboyhwshadeslayer, it's the same thing.... the files produced are .automoc.cpp files14:14
shadeslayerwhat14:14
smartboyhwI mean, the tests themselves14:14
* shadeslayer checks14:14
shadeslayeraha14:17
shadeslayeryofel: most tests fail right now because we've disabled tests in kde4libs or sth right?14:17
shadeslayerwith errors like : Could not find executable /tmp/buildd/libkgapi-2.0.1/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/tests/serviceslatitudetests.shell14:17
smartboyhwYes, that14:17
Quintasanshadeslayer: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev/user-manager/master14:20
Quintasanwat is dat?14:20
yofel# FIXME: Port tests to LibKGAPI214:20
yofelif (NOT KGAPI_DISABLE_DEPRECATED)14:20
yofel    add_subdirectory(tests)14:20
yofelendif (NOT KGAPI_DISABLE_DEPRECATED)14:20
yofelthat should be something like if (NOT KGAPI_DISABLE_DEPRECATED AND KDE4_BUILD_TESTS)14:20
shadeslayerQuintasan: user manager kcm by afiestas_14:21
shadeslayerthat we did not ship -.-14:21
QuintasanOOOH14:21
* Quintasan tests14:21
QuintasanYes14:21
QuintasanLooks MUUUUUUUUUCH better14:21
yofelshadeslayer: but yeah, that is because we have KDE4_BUILD_TESTS=FALSE in kdelibs (and pkg-kde-tools I think)14:22
shadeslayerthought so ^^14:22
Quintasanshadeslayer: Though not much development going on I see14:22
shadeslayerI'll have a look at enabling that back tomorrow14:22
yofelbut fix the upstream code to not even try to run the tests then14:22
shadeslayerQuintasan: dunno, ask afiestas_14:23
Quintasanwell anyhow14:23
Quintasanafiestas_: Good job on this, it looks better than this crap we currently have but I'm still missing some advanced features14:23
yofelQuintasan: please listen to the last mumble meeting14:23
yofelit's intentionally designed like that14:24
Quintasanoh14:24
QuintasanWe have kuser for that14:24
QuintasanYes, this is actually better14:27
smartboyhwUh wait, how come does a libkgapi with version 2 produce libkgapi.so.1 !?14:29
QuintasanUhh14:30
QuintasanUpstream forgot to bump the soname? Or it's binary compatible14:30
QuintasanFunny thing14:30
yofelsmartboyhw: because those 2 things are totally unrelated?14:30
smartboyhwyofel, oh?14:31
smartboyhwW: libkgapi2: package-name-doesnt-match-sonames libkgapi1 libkgapi2-214:31
smartboyhwThat's the strange thing14:31
QuintasanI can only recall when TO BUMP soname14:31
smartboyhwyofel, ^14:31
smartboyhwSo many strange SONAMES out there.14:31
yofelwell, someone stuffed 2 libs into one package and misnamed the package at that14:32
Quintasanah14:32
smartboyhwyofel, what should I do then?14:32
shadeslayeryofel: why are we not using Qt4 from archives for Neon 4?14:33
Quintasanyofel: let's say we have libkgapi 1.9.7, the library name would be libkgapi.so.1 and then upstream releases 2.0.1, the so name is going to get bumped anyways or it's going to stay at 1 is it's binary compatible?14:33
yofelsmartboyhw: make split packages?14:33
* Quintasan was never clear about that14:33
smartboyhwQuintasan, the version before 2.0.0 was actually 0.4.4.14:33
yofelshadeslayer: because back in the dark days for the fuzzy past we were BIC with the archive14:34
Quintasansmartboyhw: Doesn't matter, asking in general14:34
shadeslayeraha14:34
Quintasanyofel: That was probably when I had no idea what I was doing :P14:34
apacheloggerQuintasan: you were drunk when you wrote that -a thing I presume14:34
yofelQuintasan: if ABI isn't broken there's no need to bump SOVERSION14:35
Quintasanapachelogger: no, it was copypasta from the Qt packaging we had back then14:35
smartboyhwwhat happens: There is a libkgapi.so.1 and libkgapi.so.214:35
Quintasanyofel: So we would have package version 2.0.1 but the soname would be 1 :D14:35
smartboyhwQuintasan, ^14:35
Quintasansmartboyhw: You need to split the source package into two binary packages14:36
smartboyhwQuintasan, I know, one libkgapi1 and one libkgapi214:36
yofelQuintasan: proof of point:14:36
yofel918748 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 yofel yofel 17 Jul  2 16:33 lib/libkgapi.so.1 -> libkgapi.so.2.0.114:36
Quintasanoh god14:36
yofelSOVERSION != lib version14:36
Quintasanyofel: Yes I know that.14:36
QuintasanThat's why I was wondering what should happen14:37
smartboyhwBTW, why is package-name-doesnt-match-sonames appearing a libkgapi2-2 ?14:37
yofelsmartboyhw: libkgapi1 and libkgapi2-214:37
smartboyhwyofel, alright14:37
smartboyhwOh god, the symbols need to be regenerated then:(14:37
smartboyhwAgain14:37
yofelthe lib is libkgapi2.so.2 -> libkgapi2-214:37
Quintasansmartboyhw: Well, the message tells you they don't match! They have to match exactly14:37
apacheloggeryofel: kdelibs building WIP if it fails feel free to twiddle it14:38
* Quintasan remebers the 4.7.2~really4.7.1-0ubuntu4 upload14:38
apacheloggerhttps://code.launchpad.net/~neon/+recipe/project-neon5-kdelibs14:38
smartboyhwyofel, em, what about the -dbg packages?14:39
smartboyhwIn debian/rules14:39
Quintasanadd --dbg-package=libkgapi2-2-dbg?14:40
smartboyhwQuintasan, there should be two -dbg packages then14:40
QuintasanYes, just add another one14:40
smartboyhwHow do I specify which one goes where?14:40
smartboyhwQuintasan, !?14:40
Quintasanehh14:40
yofel-p iirc14:40
smartboyhwyofel, ?14:41
smartboyhwQuintasan, ?14:41
QuintasanWhere the hell is packaging for that?14:41
yofelQuintasan: libkgapi? archive14:42
smartboyhwQuintasan, not in kubuntu-packagers14:42
Quintasanyofel: You still have to do the -p hack?14:42
QuintasanI thought you could just add another --dbg-package entry14:43
yofelwell, first ask yourself whether you really need 2, IMO --dbg-package=libkgapi-dbg would be fine too14:43
QuintasanOne package with debugging symbols for both?14:43
QuintasanBleh14:43
yofelwell, then we'll have to do dh_strip -pfooX --dbg-package=libfooX-dbg14:43
yofelmake that dh_strip -plibfooX --dbg-package=libfooX-dbg14:44
Quintasandh $@ --dbg-package=libkgapi1-dbg --dbg-package=libkgapi2-2-dbg --with kde --parallel --fail-missing won't work?14:44
smartboyhwyofel, how about the -dev packages? Same package or?14:45
yofelQuintasan: tbh, I never tried14:46
QuintasanLet us have smartboyhw test that14:47
smartboyhwQuintasan, I will test yofel's one:P14:47
yofelsmartboyhw: unless you have a reason to split them, don't14:47
QuintasanWhat yofel said14:47
Quintasansmartboyhw: Can you test mine first? It's not going to take a long time since you have all the changes14:47
QuintasanAnd we might actually learn something14:47
smartboyhwWho hell has created such a strange packaging scenarios.....14:49
QuintasanLife itself14:49
yofelthis isn't strange14:49
smartboyhwyofel, stranger than others:)14:49
* yofel wonders how you get that idea after seeing simon14:49
Quintasansmartboyhw: Be thankful you didn't have to touch qtscriptgenerator14:49
yofelhehehehe14:49
yofelindeed14:50
QuintasanI'm still not sure what's going on in that one14:50
yofelbe happy14:50
yofelI know it somewhat, and I'm not happy about it14:50
yofelexcept that I know how awesome MoDaX is14:50
QuintasanI think only MoDaX knows what the hell is going on there14:50
smartboyhwQuintasan, what happened with it?14:50
QuintasanYEah14:50
Quintasansmartboyhw: Well, it works, but noone knows for sure how14:51
Quintasansave for MoDaX 14:51
smartboyhwQuintasan, building.14:51
Quintasansmartboyhw: libkgapi with my proposed solution you mean?14:52
smartboyhwQuintasan, W: libkgapi2-2-dbg: empty-binary-package14:52
smartboyhwQuintasan, yeah, but see above14:52
QuintasanAh yes14:52
QuintasanIt doesn't work14:52
Quintasanyofel++ thne14:52
Quintasanthen*14:52
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geniiAfter updates today, the splash screen took quite a while when it hit the System Settings icon ( like almost a minute and a half)14:56
smartboyhwyofel, E: libkgapi2-2: ldconfig-symlink-missing-for-shlib usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkgapi.so.1 usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkgapi.so.2.0.1 libkgapi.so.114:59
smartboyhw (aren't it supposed to go for libkgapi1 instead?)14:59
smartboyhwHeh, are we supposed to congrat Fedora 19 on it's release today?;P15:00
yofelwhy is libkgapi.so.1 in libkgapi2-2?15:00
yofelplease fix the install files15:01
smartboyhwyofel, it ISN't!15:01
yofelmakes no sense otherwise15:01
* smartboyhw rebuilds, sigh15:01
QuintasanWell, really going out now15:02
QuintasanLaters15:02
smartboyhwyofel, the split method, how to use? I can't get it working15:08
smartboyhwThat's basically the last hurdle here15:08
yofelfor what?15:09
smartboyhwyofel, -dbg packages?15:10
yofelyou remove the --dbg-package stuff from the top, then add an override_dh_strip, there you strip the 2 packages into seperate packages15:11
smartboyhwyofel, ah, override_dh_strip15:15
smartboyhwyofel, still can't get it.15:18
smartboyhwAnd also, now the lintian complains about unstripped libraries.15:18
yofeldh_strip -plibkgapi1 --dbg-package=libkapi1-dbg15:19
yofelI think15:19
smartboyhwyofel, um, no.15:22
yofelhm...15:22
yofelpastebin what you have please15:23
smartboyhwyofel, http://paste.kde.org/787502/15:24
smartboyhwWait, I think I found a solution15:24
yofelthe 2nd line is missing15:25
smartboyhwyofel, yeah15:25
smartboyhwyofel, no. It still says the two -dbg packages are empty15:29
yofelsmartboyhw: please pasetbin a full DH_VERBOSE=1 buildlog15:30
smartboyhwyofel, how?15:31
smartboyhwdebuild -j4 -DH_VERBOSE=1 ?15:32
smartboyhwdebuild -j4 --DH_VERBOSE=1 ?15:32
yofelexport DH_VERBOSE=115:32
smartboyhwyofel, http://paste.kde.org/787514/ ?15:45
smartboyhwIt doesn't seem DH_VERBOSE=1 even I added it to ~/.bashrc and sourced it.15:46
Riddellsmartboyhw: where did we get to with simon?15:50
smartboyhwRiddell, shadeslayer pinged me yesterday, but I have no time to see what he read.15:51
smartboyhws/read/wrote/15:51
kubotusmartboyhw meant: "Riddell, shadeslayer pinged me yesterday, but I have no time to see what he wrote."15:51
yofelsmartboyhw: that's indeed not verbose, probably slightly different option. But I can see that dh_strip is never run15:52
smartboyhwyofel, hmm, why>15:52
smartboyhwyofel, http://wiki.debian.org/DebugPackage15:53
smartboyhwPlz see what I did wrong with.15:53
yofelhm, did you add the debug packages in the control file?15:53
smartboyhwyofel, hey, I did15:53
Riddellsmartboyhw: do you have stuff in progress or should I get onto it?15:54
smartboyhwRiddell, probably simon? :P15:54
smartboyhwI will built a source package and will tell you the .dsc location15:54
yofelcan't say what's wrong then.15:54
yofelI'm off for a bit, back in ~3h15:55
smartboyhwyofel, Riddell http://paste.kde.org/787550/15:55
smartboyhwTHe debian/rules file15:55
yofeluhm15:55
yofel.PHONY: override_dh_strip15:55
yofelNO15:55
yofelhm wait15:56
* yofel is really off as he can't think in make right now15:56
smartboyhwyofel, well, that's what the page wiki.debian.org/DebugPackage does15:57
Riddelloverride_dh_auto_test:15:58
Riddellsmartboyhw: you left that blank ^^15:58
smartboyhwRiddell, yes,15:58
smartboyhwSo?15:58
Riddellsmartboyhw: that'll break auto_test, maybe that's what you want?15:58
Riddell.PHONY: override_dh_strip15:58
Riddelloverride_dh_strip:15:58
smartboyhwRiddell, yes15:58
Riddellthose two seem incompatible ^^15:58
smartboyhwI don't want test!15:58
smartboyhwRiddell, http://wiki.debian.org/DebugPackage15:58
smartboyhwIt DOES say PHONY there15:59
Riddellmm15:59
Riddellsmartboyhw: what's the problem you're having anyway?16:00
smartboyhwRiddell, the -dbg packages ARE EMPTY16:00
Riddelloverride_dh_strip: $(overridden_command) --dbg-package=libkcddb-dbg16:01
Riddellsmartboyhw: that's from libkcddb16:01
smartboyhwRiddell, :O16:01
RiddellI'd try removing the phony declaration16:01
Riddelldo you really want two debug packages?16:01
smartboyhwRiddell, well, I need to. There are just two packages in the source package, and I need to split16:02
Riddellyou can still have one debug package, I don't think I've ever seen a source package with multiple debug packages16:03
smartboyhwRiddell, hmm?16:04
smartboyhwRiddell, uploading simon for you. Go to my 2buntu ppa16:07
smartboyhwAs for this lib, work tomorrow....16:07
smartboyhwRiddell, uploaded. Sleep time....16:10
lordievaderGood evening.17:32
tester56hi, any way to test kickoff-qml in kubuntu? is there a neon package? would be a nice thing to test17:37
tester56is it necessary to compile whole plasma for kickoff qml?17:39
* yofel kicks XMir17:41
yofelI'm not spending another second on this until Mir can do vt switching17:41
tester56:-)17:43
tester56sorry ... i had problems with my connection so i had to quit ... does any project neon package contain kickoff-qml?18:23
tester56i tried to build it using this instructions: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?59573-Kickoff-2-Kickoff-QML-Kubuntu-12-04-KDE-4-8 ... but it only says the widget cannot be found18:23
shadeslayerdoubt it18:24
shadeslayerI think the QML kickoff was only in a branch18:24
tester56any idea how to build it correctly?18:25
shadeslayerusing neon?18:25
tester56yes would be easier  .... but i would be happy for any working instructions18:25
tester56currently i tried it building for me normal session18:26
shadeslayerjust clone kde-workspace, checkout branch, then run neon-env and then neonmake in top level dir 18:26
tester56but that would build everything18:27
tester56http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-testing/2012-November/000244.html 18:27
shadeslayersure18:28
shadeslayeralternatively18:28
shadeslayerjust build the kickoff18:28
tester56are the instructions on the page correct?18:28
shadeslayermkdir build; cd build; neon-cmake ..; cd path/to/kickoff; make; sudo make install18:28
tester56sounds sensible ... 18:30
tester56E: Unable to find a source package for project-neon-kde-workspace18:30
tester56okay have to enable source in repositories18:32
shadeslayer^^18:32
shadeslayertester56: #project-neon would be a better place for this discussion18:33
tester56ack18:33
tester56thanks for your help so far!18:34
ahoneybunRiddell: still need partitionmanager merged?18:35
shadeslayernp18:35
Riddellahoneybun: yep18:37
Riddellahoneybun: there might be a new version of rekonq to packagetoo18:37
ahoneybundo I need ec2? nope I think that was done18:37
ahoneybunRiddell: ok so use bzr and pull the package?18:41
shadeslayerhttp://sources.debian.net/18:47
shadeslayer^ kind of like browsing bzr18:48
shadeslayeryofel: ^^18:48
shadeslayerhttp://bits.debian.org/2013/07/introducing_sources.debian.net.html18:48
ahoneybunshadeslayer: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/udd-merging.html18:48
shadeslayerhuh? whut?18:49
ahoneybunshadeslayer:  Riddell said it just needed merging18:51
ahoneybunpartitionmanager18:51
shadeslayerbut why was I highlighted with that link?18:51
ahoneybunhuh?18:52
ahoneybunhttp://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/partitionmanager18:52
ahoneybunmerge from debian18:52
ahoneybunwe have 1.0.3 but debian has 1.0.3-218:52
shadeslayerare you telling me to merge partitionmanager from Debian?18:52
ahoneybunshadeslayer: no I am going to try to do it18:52
shadeslayerokay18:52
ahoneybunsorry ;18:53
ahoneybun;)18:53
shadeslayerno need to be :)18:53
ahoneybunso just use bzr to pull the branch18:53
ahoneybunthen use that merging page>18:53
ahoneybun?18:53
shadeslayerwhaaa18:55
shadeslayerdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs5-dev_4%3a4.10.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10~ppa1_i386.deb (--unpack):18:55
shadeslayer trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/preparetips', which is also in package pkg-kde-tools 0.15.3ubuntu3~ubuntu12.10~ppa118:55
ahoneybunshadeslayer: I downloaded the branch from lp and then ran bzr merge and got this http://paste.kde.org/787712/18:55
shadeslayerahoneybun: not really in a mood to look at things right now18:56
shadeslayertoo tired18:56
ahoneybunoh18:56
shadeslayerany ideas how one updates the command-not-found database by hand?19:40
BluesKajrekonq is not responding to "accept all cookies settings"  in configure rekonq>privacy>manage cookies , can't use my banking site because it says I have to turn "accept coookies" on in my browser.20:14
shadeslayerreport a bug upstream?20:15
geniiBluesKaj: Still doesn't take after quitting and opening it again?20:16
BluesKajgenii, nope20:16
BluesKajit's been like this for over a yr , shadeslayer one would think some one who uses rekonq more than I do, would have reported it by now20:18
shadeslayerpeople are lazy, they might have not reported it and instead installed Firefox/Chromium20:19
* shadeslayer checks20:20
shadeslayerbleh20:20
shadeslayermy bank doesn't require cookies to be enabled20:20
BluesKajyeah , but that doesn't do anything for rekonq's bug ,, i won't bother trying again for a few months 20:22
geniiLooks like maybe similar: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25731020:23
ubottuKDE bug 257310 in general "Rekonq does not stay logged into sites when the option is checked" [Normal,Resolved: invalid]20:23
shadeslayermm works for me20:23
shadeslayerI disabled cookies20:23
shadeslayergmail complained20:23
shadeslayerthen I enabled again20:23
shadeslayerall is well20:23
ScottKRiddell: I took a glance at the *kscreen SRU.  It seems very invasive.  It's what prompted me to ask apachelogger for the package list for the MRE update.  I think we could do it under a MRE, but not as a regular SRU.  I'd also want to understand why all the dependency changes.21:59
shadeslayerScottK: btw what exactly is a MRE?22:22
ScottKmicro release exception22:23
shadeslayeraha22:23
valorieheh, Meals Ready to Eat didn't seem quite right for the sitch22:42
ScottKNope. Nothing that awful. 22:50
shadeslayer^^22:50
shadeslayer../../kwin/egl_wayland_backend.h:130:5: error: 'wl_registry' does not name a type23:25
shadeslayer*blink*23:25
shadeslayerI suppose no wayland support for Quantal and Precise users23:26

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