[02:44] <AskUbuntu> Update or replace webapp | http://askubuntu.com/q/315248
[04:34] <AskUbuntu> Are there any Achievement and Leaderboard services for gamers and game developers? | http://askubuntu.com/q/315261
[06:42] <dholbach> good morning
[07:44] <gusch> oSoMoN: do you have some time for a review?
[07:49] <oSoMoN> gusch: not much, but shoot, I can give it a quick look later today
[07:49] <gusch> oSoMoN: https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/gallery-app/gallery-datastructure-load/+merge/172348
[08:12] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: ping
[08:12] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: hi
[08:13] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: hey, seen my e-mails?
[08:14] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: just reading them, give me a minute. late start today, i'm handing over the flat to some friends for the weeks i'm off
[08:15] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: is florian ok with your proposal ?
[08:15] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: before going on with it I would suggest you make sure he's on board
[08:16] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: because that's how i had started thigns, with a separate plugin in the webbrowser branch, IIRC, but it was overruled
[08:16] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: and had to split off
[08:17] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: also the work to keep the two in sync is a one-off thing that happened because it took me too long to create ubuntu-ui-extras but won't be needed continuously
[08:22] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: we’ll need to wait until he comes online to discuss it with him
[08:22] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: yes
[08:23] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: in the meantime, anything else we can do on this specific task ?
[08:23] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: and having the plugin and the app in two separate code bases is going to be a royal pita
[08:24] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: you can maybe review my MR to check for its sanity, assuming that we’ll go with this solution (but we’ll wait for Florian to confirm first)
[08:24] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/separate-plugin-app/+merge/172480
[08:24] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: why would it be a pain ? the only thing i hate is that we lose history
[08:25] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: because anytime I need to fix a bug or write a new feature that touches both I’ll have to sync between two branches, and two sets of packages
[08:26] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: in an ideal world the plugin and the app would be so independent that it wouldn’t matter, but I know it’s not gonna be like that
[08:27] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: makes sense
[08:45] <JamesTai1> Good morning all, happy UFO Day! :-D
[09:18] <gusch> oSoMoN_: tmoenicke is going to review the MR
[09:18] <oSoMoN_> gusch: ah, fine, I was about to start reviewing it but good that tmoenicke can take it, thanks
[09:21] <gusch> oSoMoN_: he's blocked atm. anyway
[10:22] <oSoMoN_> nerochiaro: ping
[10:27] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: yes ?
[10:30] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: would you mind reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/separate-unittests/+merge/172529 ?
[10:30] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: not at all
[10:30] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: it re-organizes the code under the unittests directory, to ease maintenance
[10:30] <nerochiaro> good idea
[10:30] <oSoMoN> no code changes, just shuffling around files
[11:14] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: already approved it. anything else i can help with with browser before florian comes back ?
[11:15] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: not right now, but Florian should be online anytime soon now
[11:15] <nerochiaro> indeed
[11:20] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i'll get some food in the meantime
[11:29] <om26er> is the conference call working on the phone app ?
[11:30] <om26er> does anyone know ?
[11:40] <oSoMoN> Kaleo: ping
[11:48] <xeranas> Hello, which soup library is recomended for simple stuff on Ubuntu SDK?
[13:04] <oSoMoN> Kaleo: please ping me when you’re around, we need to discuss the extras QML plugin, see my e-mail
[13:10] <AskUbuntu> Could not create a currency converter phone app | http://askubuntu.com/q/315415
[13:37] <schwann> victorp: can you again test https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/qtubuntu-camera/camera-torch-support/+merge/168468
[13:38] <victorp> schwann sure, i will try tomorrow
[13:39] <schwann> victorp: cool
[13:55] <Kaleo> oSoMoN_: yes
[14:13] <nerochiaro> boiko: i just pasted my report in the mumble channel
[14:14] <boiko> nerochiaro: thanks
[14:18] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: so is the plan approved ?
[14:19] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: seems so, let’s do a quick mumble to recap
[14:19] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: if it works. i'm in the apps channel
[14:43] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: so, are you going to approve the MR?
[14:44] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: if you don't have anything to add to it yes
[14:46] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: nothing to add now, will do the rest of what we discussed in subsequent merge requests
[14:49] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok
[14:50] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: approved
[14:54] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: thanks
[15:23] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: I am wondering if in the Ubuntu.Components.Extra separate package I should include some kind of example component. Otherwise the CMakeFies etc won't have much to install and it won't be a very useful skeleton
[15:32] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN_: still there ?
[15:32] <oSoMoN_> nerochiaro: yes
[15:32] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN_: guess you missed my previous question:
[15:32] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN_: I am wondering if in the Ubuntu.Components.Extra separate package I should include some kind of example component. Otherwise the CMakeFies etc won't have much to install and it won't be a very useful skeleton
[15:33] <oSoMoN_> nerochiaro: yeah, I guess it would make sense
[15:56] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: if you’re still around and have a bit of spare time, could you review https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/toolbar-buttons/+merge/172604 ?
[15:56] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: I'll take it once i finish this example component
[15:56] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: ok, thanks
[15:56]  * oSoMoN is off for today, needs some rest
[16:51] <om26er> nerochiaro, Hey!
[16:51] <om26er> nerochiaro, the tests fail because that branch brings in regressions
[16:52] <om26er> nerochiaro, 1. when you click inside a note area you cannot type anything
[16:53] <om26er> 2. when you have an image loaded and you click below the image the text field does not expand to type.
[16:54] <Kaleo> om26er: nerochiaro: it's important that this branch lands today before the touch build starts otherwise the notes app won't launch anymore
[16:58] <timp> anyone knows where the .deb packages end up when I "build application on device" from qtcreator?
[16:58] <timp> I think they used to go somewhere in /home/phablet, but I cannot find it now :s maybe something changed with the flipped image?
[17:00] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: are the tests failing only in jenkins ?
[17:01] <om26er> timp, my blind guess would be it used to paste it to /data/ubuntu/home/phablet but since we don't have /data/ubuntu on flipped images. the problem lies there. so QtCreator would need adapting.
[17:01] <Kaleo> nerochiaro: you tell me
[17:01] <Kaleo> nerochiaro: (it's your app not mine, I already provided the API adaptations)
[17:01] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: it's your branch man, did you run the tests or not when you made it ?
[17:02] <Kaleo> nerochiaro: I prepared the branch as a service
[17:02] <Kaleo> nerochiaro: I cannot test all the apps I gave help with for the API  change
[17:02] <Kaleo> nerochiaro: I could not have prepared a branch at all
[17:02] <om26er> Kaleo, nerochiaro they fail on desktop as well. (I ran)
[17:03] <Kaleo> om26er: thank you
[17:03] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: ok fair enough
[17:04] <om26er> 5 tests fail, due to the two reasons I specified above.
[17:08] <Kaleo> om26er: any idea why https://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/camera-app/new_theming/+merge/171886 fails?
[17:09]  * om26er looks
[17:09] <om26er> Kaleo, looks like an issue with the panda builders
[17:10] <gusch> Kaleo om26er I have the same issue for camera-plugin and gallery
[17:15] <om26er> gusch, Kaleo I re-triggered and this time it seems to be running
[17:16] <Kaleo> om26er: ok, thanks
[17:17] <gusch> om26er: thx
[17:18] <om26er> gusch, whats camera-plugin ?
[17:18] <gusch> om26er: https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/qtubuntu-camera/camera-torch-support/+merge/168468
[17:18] <gusch> om26er: gallery is https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/gallery-app/gallery-datastructure-load/+merge/172348
[17:19] <om26er> the problem is with ps-panda-4
[17:23] <boiko> Kaleo: is the UITK styling change merged already?
[17:26] <Kaleo> boiko: yes
[17:26] <Kaleo> boiko: and the phone app MR too
[17:27] <Kaleo> om26er: apparently jenkins is not using the latest ubuntu-ui-toolkit for https://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/mediaplayer-app/new_theming/+merge/171887
[17:28] <Kaleo> renato_: let's ask om26er ^
[17:28] <boiko> Kaleo: ah ok, nice :)
[17:29] <boiko> Kaleo: I'll do a phone-app release then
[17:29] <renato_> Kaleo, the new theme API is already release?
[17:29] <Kaleo> boiko: you still do releases?
[17:29] <Kaleo> boiko: it's not automatic?
[17:29] <Kaleo> renato_: it's in trunk yes
[17:30] <boiko> Kaleo: it was but due to some problems we had to switch back to using manual releases
[17:30] <Kaleo> boiko: just the phone app?
[17:30] <boiko> Kaleo: yep, it is building in a separate PPA
[17:30] <Kaleo> boiko: ok
[17:30] <boiko> Kaleo: because saucy's indicator-messages is different from the phablet one
[17:31] <om26er> Kaleo, the log don't seem to think that. the package that is installed comes from the builder (which builds the proposed branch)
[17:32] <boiko> Kaleo: salem_ just tried latest phone-app and he seems to be getting this problem:
[17:32] <renato_> Kaleo, wait there is a new log
[17:32] <boiko> Kaleo: file:///usr/share/phone-app/phone-app.qml:221:13: Non-existent attached object
[17:32] <boiko> Kaleo:                  ItemStyle.class: singlePane ? "new-tabs" : "tabs"
[17:33] <Kaleo> boiko: he obviously is not using phone-app trunk
[17:33] <salem_> Kaleo, just compiled the ubuntu-ui-toolkit from trunk.
[17:33] <renato_> Kaleo, I was looking into the old log, sorry
[17:33] <renato_> the new one looks fine
[17:33] <Kaleo> om26er: sorry for the trouble
[17:34] <om26er> Kaleo, no problem :)
[17:34] <Kaleo> renato_: can you please try the autopilot tests on your machine?
[17:35] <renato_> om26er, Kaleo looking at the videos look like some problem with the video decoder
[17:35] <renato_> Kaleo, works fine on my machine
[17:35] <Kaleo> renato_: ah ok
[17:37] <salem_> Kaleo, yep, just ran bzr pull again and more stuff were updated. now it works. thanks.
[17:37] <Kaleo> salem_: great
[18:15] <renato_> Kaleo, I did some changes on the autopilot test, to make it more stable in diff devices, let see what happen: https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/mediaplayer-app/fix-autopilot/+merge/172638
[18:16] <Kaleo> renato_: brilliant
[18:58] <AskUbuntu> ubuntu sdk has no c++ examples | http://askubuntu.com/q/315560
[19:21] <papoteur> Hello, I have a patch for usb-imagewriter to propose. Which way should i follow to submit it?
[19:41] <Kaleo> renato_: one test still fails
[19:42] <Kaleo> MismatchError: After 10.0 seconds test on GenericToolbar.ready failed: True != dbus.Boolean(False, variant_level=1)
[19:42] <renato_> Kaleo, yes I am checking
[19:53] <Kaleo> om26er: https://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/camera-app/new_theming/+merge/171886 failed again :/
[19:54] <om26er> Kaleo, approve it now, will go fine
[19:55] <om26er> papoteur, make a branch and propose it to its launchpad project
[19:55] <Kaleo> om26er: ok
[19:56] <papoteur> om26er: thks.
[19:57] <om26er> papoteur, though I do think that project is not maintained anymore...
[19:57] <papoteur> om26er: how do you know that ?
[19:58] <om26er> papoteur, i remember it used to be used during the time when we had ubuntu-netbook-edition which had .img files. Now we produce ISOs for all images so usb-creator-gtk is used to make usbs bootable
[20:00] <papoteur> om26er: Ok, I will have a look to that. Linux-mint done like a fork.
[20:03] <xzcvczx> om26er: i prefer using dd as i have had limited success with the tools
[20:06] <ironhalik> Hello
[20:06] <ironhalik> I'm looking into some ubuntu development
[20:07] <ironhalik> and so far, I've figured out I should use python3
[20:07] <ironhalik> but since I would use some GUI, I'm wondering about GUI framework
[20:07] <ironhalik> should I go with qt4 or GTK?
[20:08] <ironhalik> gnome is based on gtk, but future releases may move to qt
[20:08] <ironhalik> and also, so far, the basic stuff in qt seem to be more elegant for me, compared to gtk
[20:12] <beuno> ironhalik, so, the future is Ubuntu Touch, for which there's an SDK in development: http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/
[20:12] <beuno> that's probably your best bet today
[20:14] <ironhalik> it looks like it's mainy intended for mobile development?
[20:14] <beuno> ironhalik, Ubuntu 14.04, the next stable release, will be a converged release
[20:14] <beuno> so the same SDK for desktop and mobile
[20:14] <ironhalik> hmm, thats nice
[20:15] <ironhalik> won't there by any backward compatibility issues if I go with ubuntu-sdk?
[20:15] <ironhalik> like, qt5 in 12.04?
[20:16] <beuno> ironhalik, yes, this is targeted for newer versions of Ubuntu
[20:16] <beuno> 13.10 and 14.04
[20:16] <ironhalik> I need to think about my potential user base :>
[20:16] <ironhalik> hell, android development is crazy simple compared to ubuntu :P
[20:17] <ironhalik> I heard about plans for ubuntu sdk, didnt know there's a preview for it
[20:17] <ironhalik> either way, I'll check it out
[20:17] <ironhalik> thanks beuno
[20:18] <beuno> np
[21:15] <renato_> Kaleo, passed: https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/mediaplayer-app/fix-autopilot/+merge/172638
[21:26] <Kaleo> renato_: excellent! thank you
[21:26] <Kaleo> renato_: I approved it
[22:54] <boiko> Kaleo: hey, would you mind reviewing/approving this release MR? https://code.launchpad.net/~boiko/phone-app/release_0.59.17/+merge/172695
[22:54] <boiko> Kaleo: it's for the UITK theming fixes to get released
[23:02] <Kaleo> boiko: done
[23:02] <boiko> Kaleo: obrigado! :)
[23:07] <Kaleo> de nada
[23:25] <Kaleo> nik90: still here?
[23:25] <Kaleo> nik90: I'm back
[23:35] <Kaleo> nik90: I *think* it will fix it https://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/fix_1197164/+merge/172698
[23:35] <Kaleo> timp: you're not around I guess?
[23:46] <nik90> Kaleo: just saw ur message.
[23:47] <nik90> Kaleo: I will wait for it to get merged and then test and let you know how it goes
[23:48] <Kaleo> nik90: thanks, what's your timezone?
[23:48] <nik90> Kaleo: UTC + 02:00 (its late here... :D )
[23:51] <Kaleo> nik90: oh yeah
[23:51] <Kaleo> nik90: go to bed :)