[04:41] <excalibr> hyperair: what do you think about Lazarus?
[04:41] <excalibr> http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?page=whyuse
[05:52] <hyperair> excalibr: well, nothing will tear me away from emacs.
[05:55] <hyperair> excalibr: also i dislike pascal.
[06:27] <excalibr> hyperair: haha..why no love for rad tool
[06:29] <hyperair> excalibr: rad?
[06:29] <hyperair> rad as in radical?
[06:30] <excalibr> rapid app dev tool
[06:30] <hyperair> huh
[06:30] <hyperair> you just have a edit-compile-test cycle, right?
[06:31] <hyperair> any editor that supports compilations is good at that already
[06:32] <hyperair> and if you want templates to fill in there's always yasnippet for emacs.
[06:51] <fairuz> hello people
[06:55] <excalibr> helo. human here
[07:34] <excalibr> hyperair: i guess but these rad tools to some extent can help speeding up your dev..if you're working on like a complex dev involving gui usually it is way to go, at least on windows
[07:34] <hyperair> on windows maybe
[07:35] <hyperair> it isn't usually the case on linux
[07:35] <hyperair> but you still can, with qtcreator or glade
[07:43] <excalibr> :D
[07:46] <excalibr> by the way, any idea how to deal with this chroot prob
[07:46] <excalibr> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=pCvaapHw
[07:47] <excalibr> I always get process locking up in the chroot when I try to exit it
[07:49] <hyperair> kill it?
[07:49] <excalibr> killing them would only make them span new instances
[07:49] <excalibr> :(
[07:49] <hyperair> oh
[07:49] <hyperair> i see
[07:49] <hyperair> that means it's controlled by upstart.
[07:49] <hyperair> enter the chroot, and type stop dbus-daemon
[07:49] <hyperair> er stop dbus
[07:49] <hyperair> as root
[07:49] <hyperair> so sudo stop dbus
[07:53] <hyperair> no wait
[07:53] <excalibr> weird..dbus ntis even running
[07:53] <excalibr> isnt
[07:53] <hyperair> sudo schroot -u root -c liferea stop dbus
[07:54]  * ejat nice channel alive .. 
[07:54] <hyperair> er
[07:54] <hyperair> sudo schroot -u root -c session:liferea -r stop dbus
[07:55] <excalibr> stop: Unknown instance:
[07:58] <excalibr> i dont know what just happened but i was finally able to terminate the session
[07:58] <excalibr> lol
[07:58] <hyperair> heh
[08:28] <fairuz> test test
[08:39]  * ejat test2
[08:39] <ejat> mana ilang en fairuz
[08:39] <ejat> angch: u using your own tunnel ? 
[08:40] <angch> ejat, yes
[08:40] <ejat> tuxuri have ipv6?
[08:40] <angch> ejat, er... linode has ipv6, so there.
[08:40] <angch> really depends on the upstream, kan?
[08:40] <ejat> :)
[08:41] <ejat> u subscribe linode for personal ?
[08:41] <ejat> hows live and business ? 
[08:41] <angch> ejat, it's the company's.
[08:41] <angch> ejat, good. busy. and got more time for coding for once.
[08:41] <ejat> any reason y use linode :) 
[08:41] <ejat> mind to share ? 
[08:42] <angch> ejat, cheap and unblocked?
[08:42] <ejat> angch: wow .. still doing coding ? 
[08:42] <angch> ejat, why not? good stuff.
[08:42] <ejat> c00l reason :) thumb up!
[08:42] <angch> linode: cheap, and unblocked. coz local dc sucks.
[08:42] <angch> we're using linode as backup.
[08:42] <ejat> ic .. 
[08:42] <ejat> aims also sxxk ? 
[08:43] <angch> aims == expensive.
[08:44]  * ejat winks
[08:44] <ejat> AWS ? 
[08:45] <angch> not as easy to get into vs linode.
[08:45] <angch> flat rate = rocks
[08:46] <fairuz> ejat: yo
[08:46] <fairuz> ada kat mesia dah
[08:46] <fairuz> :)
[08:48] <ejat> tau2
[08:48] <ejat> tp lama x online
[08:48] <ejat> stay mana skrang ? 
[08:53] <fairuz> hehe ade je kat sini
[08:53] <fairuz> keja kat bangsar
[08:53] <fairuz> stay kat Subang jaya
[09:06] <excalibr> angch: tapi aims ada pricing lain2 utk local vs international bw
[09:07] <excalibr> local dc lain takda camtu :D
[09:07] <angch> excalibr, berapa base price bagi 4u/month?
[09:10] <angch> 3k for 42u....
[09:10] <angch> http://www.aims.com.my/colocation-services/co-location-package-and-pricing-in-malaysia/
[09:10] <angch> eeek
[09:11] <fairuz> hey rakan2
[09:11] <fairuz> kat opis aku ada website takleh masuk
[09:11] <fairuz> kena dns poisoning?
[09:12] <fairuz> macam boleh search google tapi semua link takleh masuk
[09:14] <excalibr> angch: ye kena sewa satu rack klu deal direct dgn dc
[09:15] <excalibr> sewa ded box terus lah
[09:15] <excalibr> cuba usha softlayer sg
[09:16] <excalibr> fairuz: .com.my lagi?
[09:21] <ejat> dah kepunyaan ibm ker blom softlayer tu 
[09:28] <fairuz> excalibr: tak ni google.com
[09:28] <fairuz> tapi actually hampir semua website takleh masuk
[09:29] <fairuz> yang pelik, google.com takleh masuk direct
[09:29] <excalibr> unifi?
[09:29] <fairuz> tapi kalau search pakai chrome tu dia keluar search result
[09:29] <fairuz> tapi semua link takleh tekan
[09:29] <fairuz> aah unifi
[09:29] <fairuz> unifi punya dns kena benda ke :D
[09:30] <excalibr> tak tau la pulak tu..
[09:30] <excalibr> cuba masuk yg https punya
[09:30] <fairuz> gmail https boleh
[09:31] <fairuz> facebook pun boleh
[09:31] <excalibr> jeng jeng..
[09:33] <fairuz> haha
[09:33] <fairuz> yang http je takleh baru perasan
[09:33] <fairuz> kohkoh
[09:33] <fairuz> ni unifi nye problem ke, ke opis aku 
[09:45] <fairuz> test test
[09:45] <fairuz> excalibr: ping