[04:24] <pitti> Good morning
[06:19] <DanChapman> Good Morning pitti
[06:20] <pitti> hey DanChapman
[06:27] <smartboyhw> Hello pitti DanChapman
[06:33] <smartboyhw> Hello Noskcaj
[06:34] <Noskcaj> hey smartboyhw
[06:48] <jibel> good morning
[08:27] <knome> balloons, elfy is working on a "Xfce" testsuite, can you make that visible once you get back? :)
[12:45] <DanChapman> xnox, hey :-) should i propose the test for merge at lp:ubiquity?
[12:48] <xnox> DanChapman: yeah, https://code.launchpad.net/~dpniel/ubiquity/autopilot looks ok.
[12:48] <DanChapman> xnox, ok cool. Will do that then :-)
[12:50] <xnox> DanChapman: have you submitted CA? it's an online form linked from here http://www.canonical.com/contributors
[12:50] <xnox> DanChapman: here is direct link http://www.canonical.com/contributors
[12:51] <DanChapman> xnox, no I haven't I will sort that now. Would not have known if you hadn't mentioned it. :-P
[12:53] <xnox> DanChapman: cool, thanks a lot =) much appreciated.
[13:10] <DanChapman> xnox, anyone in particular I should ask to review it?
[13:11] <xnox> DanChapman: just default, ubuntu-installer team is fine.
[13:11] <DanChapman> cheers
[15:38] <phillw> smartboyhw: sadly, your specifications expired, can you please re-create them on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hardware and I'll transfer them over (I managed to catch everyone else's)
[15:41] <phillw> balloons: can you fill in the make and model of your computer at the above wiki page :)
[15:41] <smartboyhw> phillw, what the
[15:42] <phillw> Even I didn't notice that they expire!
[15:42] <phillw> Where they are copied to will not expire, it's the same I use to hold copies of the milestone release ISO's :)
[15:48] <smartboyhw> phillw, em, the connection timed out
[15:49] <balloons> DanChapman, ping
[15:50] <DanChapman> balloons, pong
[15:51] <smartboyhw> phillw, no, still connection timed out
[15:55] <balloons> DanChapman, so I saw the scrollback on ubiquity :-)
[15:56] <balloons> good stuff.. did you plan on trying your hand at a core app now?
[15:57] <balloons> phillw, done
[15:58] <DanChapman> balloons, yeah its a pretty rock solid test as well and will work a treat once setup and tear down is implemented properly :-)
[15:59] <DanChapman> Yeah I was gonna do the fixes on evince and screenshot first. Been digging around looking at autopkgtests today. See how they work and all that....
[15:59] <DanChapman> but yeah gonna have a go at a core app... any in need more than others?
[16:00] <balloons> DanChapman, well, picking something you like it always good. However, there are a few without tests. Let's see
[16:01] <phillw> ta :)
[16:01] <balloons> DanChapman, might be good to start with calculator, calendar, clock or weather as they are the big 4 for your first pass
[16:01] <phillw> smartboyhw: e-mail it  me and I'll manually do it!
[16:02] <balloons> from there, file manager, docviewer, rss reader and the new ones sudoku, dropping letters and stock ticker all have 0 tests
[16:03] <smartboyhw> phillw, http://paste.kde.org/787562/
[16:04] <DanChapman> balloons, ok sounds good. will go check out calculator first then :-)
[16:23] <balloons> phillw, so can I leave you to brainstorm on something?
[16:23] <knome> balloons, got my messages on the testsuite?
[16:23] <balloons> I'd like to make it a bit easier to find and utilize our session logs from: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom
[16:24] <balloons> knome, hello. I saw the message, what needs to be turned on? Elfy should have access to do that for xubuntu
[16:24] <knome> balloons, shouldn't i have that too?
[16:24] <knome> balloons, tell me where i enable a testuite :)
[16:24] <knome> i'm not home now though so i can't log in
[16:25] <balloons> so phillw any thoughts on modifying the wiki to make the sessions more prominent would be great
[16:25] <balloons> I'll let you have a think on it phillw :-)
[16:25] <balloons> knome, ohh, heh, well you assign testcases to products
[16:25] <knome> balloons, what's the product on packages. ?
[16:25] <balloons> if you have the right access you should see the list of xubuntu products
[16:26] <balloons> and you can edit them, etc.. if you don't, there is no products tab
[16:26] <balloons> so if you don't see a products tab, you don't have the proper access..
[16:26] <knome> i'm not sure. i'll get back to you later on that when i'm home
[16:26] <knome> and yeah, gimme
[16:26] <knome> i'm on ubuntu-testcase-admins and xubuntu-release...
[16:27] <knome> actually
[16:27] <knome> i've seen some of that on iso.
[16:27] <knome> but we're talking about packages. now :)
[16:27] <knome> maybe i just didn't look carefully enough
[16:27] <balloons> ohh.. packages is the sameish
[16:28] <balloons> maybe it's not carrying over there
[16:28] <balloons> yes it should exist on iso.. on packages you right you probably don't have it
[16:28] <knome> :)
[16:28] <knome> gimme!
[16:28] <knome> :P
[16:28] <balloons> we might be able to solve that.. regardless tell me what to turn on, it's simple enough
[16:28] <knome> hehe
[16:28] <phillw> balloons: I'm just heading for home.... BTW.... I HATE WINDOWS!!!!!!! I'll have a look after food !
[16:28] <knome> the testsuite called "Xfce"
[16:29] <balloons> ok, add it to?
[16:29] <balloons> or do you need a product also? :-)
[16:29] <knome> i think we also need a product
[16:29] <balloons> k, call it xubuntu or xfce?
[16:30] <knome> what do you think?
[16:30] <knome> should we gather all xubuntu-related testsuites under one product?
[16:30] <balloons> once the product is added to be honest, you should be set actually as you can edit the testsuite without worry
[16:30] <balloons> knome, it's up to you and team.. We've done it both ways in ubuntu :-)
[16:30] <balloons> atm everything is seperated out, we'll see how it works this cycle
[16:31] <knome> elfy?
[16:31] <knome> my worry is:
[16:31] <knome> if we do the xubuntu product
[16:32] <knome> we will be able to link all tests to it yes,
[16:32] <knome> but they won't be marked ready unless somebody marks a test done for them under xubuntu
[16:32] <knome> does that make sense?
[16:33] <knome> or the "xubuntu" product isn't ready, if a test for, say, firefox isn't ran under xubuntu
[16:33] <knome> even if it's ran outside xubuntu
[16:33] <knome> for ISO's that makes sense, because the installation tests are actually different for xubuntu, lubuntu etc.
[16:34] <knome> but with packages, it would be fine to mark the firefox tests done for xubuntu if anybody ran the firefox tests anywhere
[16:34] <balloons> right.. if you make it all inclusive, well, you shut yourself off from the rest
[16:34] <knome> exactly
[16:34] <balloons> but I would probably group all the xfce stuff together as one product
[16:34] <balloons> panel, settings, etc, etc
[16:34] <knome> yes, definitely - that's why we did that :)
[16:35] <balloons> for instance all the unity stuff is in one spot
[16:35] <knome> (if you look at the testsuite, you can see that being done)
[16:35] <knome> i also updated the branch
[16:35] <balloons> but if you make a leafpad test, probably just make it a seperate product :-)
[16:35] <knome> mousepad that is ;)
[16:35] <knome> that's why we created the xfce testsuite now...
[16:35] <knome> because that was the easy one
[16:36] <knome> anyway, i got to go now
[16:36] <knome> bbl
[16:36] <knome> (p.s. ask elfy)
[16:37] <balloons> kk :-0
[16:38] <balloons> k knome elfy I made a xfce product and made you owners :-) see if that fixes things
[16:39] <elfy> just got back - will read all of that when dinner is eaten and tea is drunk ...
[17:11] <qwebirc33354> hello ballons
[17:11] <qwebirc33354> balloons*
[17:11] <balloons> hello qwebirc33354 ;-)
[17:12] <balloons> hello juggle
[17:12] <qwebirc33354> just saw your page at the Orange Notebook
[17:12] <qwebirc33354> how can I get involved?
[17:13] <juggle> hello balloons
[17:13] <balloons> qwebirc33354, there's several options :-) Right at the moment the biggest focuses for us as a team are to work on our automated tests, especially for the ubuntu core apps, and to help test the new stuff landing in saucy
[17:13] <juggle> how are you
[17:13] <balloons> juggle, good, you?
[17:13] <juggle> fine thank you
[17:14] <balloons> qwebirc33354, so first things first, let's get you signed up to the team and the mailing list, then I can help you get started on what your interested in
[17:14] <juggle> last night, installed saucy and  a little min latter i will try to install virtualbox it
[17:14] <qwebirc33354> I've been tinkering with Ubuntu since 7.04, installed and troubleshooted on every config possible all the way up to 13.04
[17:14] <balloons> qwebirc33354, The quality team has a wiki page here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam. This is our mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality. Sign up and say hello :-)
[17:15] <qwebirc33354> ok
[17:15] <balloons> qwebirc33354, with that said, what might you be most interested in? contributing test results, or creating test cases?
[17:16] <balloons> perhaps both :-)
[17:16] <balloons> if you've been around ubuntu that long, I think you should give the automated test writing a try
[17:16] <balloons> it's really cool stuff
[17:16] <balloons> juggle, nice.. so are you running saucy on real hardware now?
[17:17] <juggle> no i will run saucy on virtualbox
[17:17] <juggle> is it ok for testing ?
[17:17] <qwebirc33354> that does sound interesting
[17:17] <balloons> juggle, ahh, gotcha..
[17:17] <balloons> juggle, yes of course it's "ok" :-)
[17:17] <elfy> balloons: really - I've been using since 7.04 and I'm scared of autopilot :)
[17:18] <balloons> elfy, you have to admit it's cool.. whether or not you want to try writing a test :-)
[17:18] <balloons> qwebirc33354, wonderful. So let me send you a few links..
[17:18] <elfy> oh yea :)
[17:19] <qwebirc33354> sure. I just signed up for the mailing list
[17:24] <balloons> sorry, small interruption here :-
[17:24] <balloons> qwebirc33354, so here's some documentation and a tutorial for qml apps and autopilot
[17:24] <balloons> http://unity.ubuntu.com/autopilot/
[17:24] <balloons> http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tutorials/quality/how-to-write-autopilot-tests/
[17:25] <balloons> We're writing tests for the core apps
[17:25] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Testing
[17:25] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Testing/ContributeAutopilotTestcase
[17:25] <juggle> last time, when i try to install saucy on virtualbox took long time but now it seams very fast
[17:25] <balloons> so you can see the apps in question and the bug list :)
[17:25] <balloons> juggle, anything different? just a new iso or?
[17:26] <juggle> it is a new iso
[17:26] <juggle> i downloaded that iso last night
[17:27] <elfy> balloons: so a bit mystified here - once more the way that testcases /suites/products are related to each other and how they relate to making specific tests show up for people to test against
[17:27] <elfy> s/once more/ with
[17:28] <balloons> qwebirc33354, I trust that's not too much information overload. There's about a dozen apps that the community is developing for ubuntu touch. They all need more autopilot tests. You can learn about how to write autopilot stuff in the links I sent, and asking questions of course. In addition, I plan to host a couple intro sessions this week and next to get people up to speed ;-)
[17:29] <balloons> elfy, lol.. no worries
[17:29] <qwebirc33354> this is quite a bit of info to get my head around
[17:29] <balloons> you need a product.. it can be anything. an image, a package, etc
[17:29] <qwebirc33354> but terribly exciting nonetheless
[17:30] <balloons> qwebirc33354, :-) So start with the tutorial on developer.ubuntu.com and work through that
[17:30] <qwebirc33354> your intro sessions gonna be on youtube?
[17:30] <balloons> the rest will come as you learn ;-)
[17:30] <balloons> http://www.youtube.com/qualitybecomesyou is my channel. And yes, look for more autopilot stuff to hit there :-0
[17:31] <elfy> balloons: so to get something onto http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/270/builds it has to be a product?
[17:31] <balloons> I know visual help alot
[17:31] <balloons> elfy, once you have a product, you can assign a testsuite to it
[17:31] <balloons> a testsuite as you already know, contains testcases
[17:31] <elfy> yep
[17:33] <qwebirc33354> is this the path to working with Canonical?
[17:34] <balloons> qwebirc33354, working with canonical? do you mean to say be employed by canonical?
[17:34] <qwebirc33354> yeah?
[17:35] <balloons> many folks working @ canonical started out in the community.. ubuntu is a meritocracy, so one way to garner influence is to do good work within the community :-)
[17:35] <elfy> balloons: I can see we have a product - that is 'empty' atm - and we have a few testsuites which can be added to the product, I can follow that - what's confusing me is how to actually allow people to test against things
[17:35] <balloons> ohh!
[17:36] <balloons> you need a milestone and a build
[17:36] <elfy> aah right
[17:36] <qwebirc33354> I've written quite a few test cases, unit tests, for Ensemble Cache before, but this autopilot is damn exciting
[17:36] <qwebirc33354> that's pretty encouraging
[17:36] <balloons> qwebirc33354, if you look you can see some of the tests in action, like say the ubiquity installer DanChapman wrote.. it's linked on my channel
[17:37] <qwebirc33354> I'm subscribed. going thru the vids now
[17:37] <balloons> doing good work always let's you have more influence and voice in the project..
[17:37] <elfy> balloons: I assume knome knows about that then - that'll be why I'm not seeing any logic at the moment :)
[17:38] <balloons> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wazf8_khrY&list=PLG55xW3Q-4JaxdkPnfj1ghzuwFS4-0FrZ&index=1
[17:40] <balloons> elfy, I can add a build for you if you wish
[17:46] <elfy> balloons: not necessary atm
[17:47] <juggle> so i installed saucy on virtualbox. what must be the first test case of me
[17:49] <balloons> juggle, have a look at what's on tap for cadence testing :-)
[17:49] <balloons> http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/
[17:54] <elfy> balloons: one more for the moment then I'll leave you in peace ... who can add builds?
[17:54] <balloons> elfy, lol, it's hard for me to know that you can't
[17:54] <balloons> I can add them
[17:54] <balloons> in theory you can add them as well for your products
[17:55] <balloons> if you can't then I'll just have to do it.. which isn't a huge deal persay
[17:55] <elfy> lol
[17:55] <balloons> the packages tracker was unique because you had no products
[17:55] <elfy> I'm just trying to see some sort of logic in how this is all set up :)
[17:55] <balloons> I added xfce and assigned it to xubuntu
[17:55] <balloons> that should let you have full control over it
[17:57] <elfy> I can see those things - I can see that I can control them
[17:57] <elfy> I'm obviously not asking the right question here :)
[17:57] <elfy> bbl
[17:58] <juggle> if you wrote something, sorry i did not see them
[17:58] <balloons> juggle, ahh :-)
[17:58] <juggle> i disconnected
[17:58] <balloons> basically everything that's on tap for cadence week 2 testing is what you can test
[17:58] <juggle> is there a log page ?
[17:58] <balloons> there is
[17:58] <balloons> v
[17:58] <juggle> ok, if you share i will read
[17:58] <balloons> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[17:59] <balloons> i'll repeat it :-0
[17:59] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Cadence/Saucy/Week2
[17:59] <balloons> that page should detail everything ;-)
[17:59] <balloons> qwebirc33354, how's it coming?
[18:00] <qwebirc33354> i've created a Launchpad account, and kicking myself for all that wasted Karma !
[18:01] <elfy> qwebirc33354: I shouldn't worry too much about karma - it's all skewed :)
[18:02] <qwebirc33354> i bet it is, unless proselytizing ubuntu door to door counts in some cosmic calculation
[18:02] <qwebirc33354> but I'm getting there
[18:02] <elfy> ha ha ha
[18:02] <balloons> qwebirc33354, :-)
[18:03] <qwebirc33354> i have Quantal installed on an old Thinkpad R52, and Raring on my mother-in-law's computer, so I ought to get back to speed
[18:03] <qwebirc33354> btw
[18:04] <qwebirc33354> my ID is drsaurabhsikka, and I should really get off this hackintosh and login legally on to IRC via ubuntu
[18:04] <qwebirc33354> see yu in a bit
[18:04] <balloons> qwebirc33354, cu in a few :-0
[18:05] <juggle> saucy in virtualbox responding little bit late
[18:05] <juggle> did you get like that comments ?
[18:06] <balloons> juggle, yes you can run saucy in a VM and do the cadence testing
[18:06] <balloons> I'm not sure xMir will work out too well, but otherwise everything should be testable :-)
[18:06] <balloons> It's even covered in the tutorial if your not sure how
[18:08] <juggle> yeah, i will try with your help
[18:15] <balloons> drsaurabhsikka, welcome back :-)
[18:15] <drsaurabhsikka> thanks balloons
[18:16] <drsaurabhsikka> I'm getting all my keys on launchpad, meanwhile
[18:16] <balloons> yes, that is fun
[18:16] <balloons> if you need help with setup, ping
[18:22] <drsaurabhsikka> thanks
[18:24] <phillw> balloons: Is this what you had in mind? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Header/phillw
[18:25] <phillw> If so, I can go tidy it up so it scales correctly.
[18:26] <balloons> phillw, that's a start.. but new folks might not know what classroom sessions are. I'm hoping to try and push people there if they have questions or need a tutorial/walkthrough that isn't covered persay
[18:27] <balloons> Maybe something off the activities page, linking to the session that corresponds to the activity?
[18:27] <phillw> Call it 'Tutorials'?
[18:27] <phillw> okies, I'll go play on the Activity Page and see what I can do...
[18:30] <balloons> thx phillw :-)
[18:50] <drsaurabhsikka> does the SSH key also include my local machine login info?
[18:56] <balloons> drsaurabhsikka, what do you mean by that
[18:56] <balloons> it will have a user@host attached to it
[18:58] <drsaurabhsikka> got it
[18:59] <drsaurabhsikka> installing bzr
[18:59] <drsaurabhsikka> got all my keys, etc
[19:03] <balloons> drsaurabhsikka, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/Launchpad
[19:03] <drsaurabhsikka> balloons: unable to get bzr to recognize my launchpad ID
[19:03] <balloons> see the page I linked
[19:03] <balloons> if it doesn't help, we'll troubleshoot
[19:04] <drsaurabhsikka> got it
[19:09] <drsaurabhsikka> I've joined the QA Team
[19:11] <balloons> drsaurabhsikka, excellent.. I've finalized the details of the workshops now as well.. hopefully something in here meets your needs
[19:11] <balloons> drsaurabhsikka, http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2013/07/automated-testing-workshops.html
[19:17] <Letozaf_> balloons, Hi :)
[19:18] <balloons> Letozaf_, hello
[19:18] <Letozaf_> balloons, I think I encountered  a bug: http://ubuntuone.com/6sRBg9lX7ILSsX5nh0sZmd  yesterday rssfeed autopilot tests worked today I get this :(
[19:19] <balloons> Letozaf_, that link isn't showing me anything :-(
[19:19] <balloons> however I have some news.. and your right, I think the autopilot tests found a regression :-)
[19:19] <Letozaf_> balloons, sorry let me put it somewhere else
[19:19] <balloons> ahh. I see the image now
[19:20] <balloons> sorry, ff was being silly
[19:20] <Letozaf_> balloons, oh fine!
[19:20] <Letozaf_> balloons, do you think it's the regression's fault ?
[19:20] <balloons> yes, the code changed and broke something
[19:20] <balloons> the test did it's job
[19:21] <balloons> Letozaf_, http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/ubuntu-rssreader-app-ci/
[19:21] <Letozaf_> balloons, fine so the test is ok then
[19:22] <balloons> the tests are in jenkins now :-)
[19:22] <Letozaf_> balloons, cool :-D
[19:22] <balloons> I realize that's not a nice display, but heh, it's being run
[19:22] <Letozaf_> balloons, I was implementing other tests in rssfeed, but I guess I will have to wait for the bug to be fixed to try it out :)
[19:23] <Letozaf_> balloons, doesn't matter, I mean the display, I understood it all the same :)
[19:25] <Letozaf_> balloons, so this : https://code.launchpad.net/~carla-sella/ubuntu-rssreader-app/add_feed_test_fixed_dir_name/+merge/172200
[19:25] <Letozaf_> balloons, the missing file was fixed ?
[19:25] <Letozaf_> balloons, must I ask fginther ?
[19:26] <balloons> Letozaf_, we can try and track the reason done in just a moment :-)
[19:26] <balloons> let me finish up here
[19:26] <balloons> you could try pinging the developers in #ubuntut-touch or looking at if something new in the code landed
[19:27] <balloons> check the commit log
[19:27] <balloons> I'll be just a few ins
[19:27] <balloons> *mins
[19:27] <drsaurabhsikka> connected with your G+ hang
[19:30] <fginther> Letozaf_, is there something I can help with?
[19:30] <Letozaf_> fginther, oh yes thanks, the ubuntu-rssreader-app autopilot test
[19:30] <Letozaf_> fginther, https://code.launchpad.net/~carla-sella/ubuntu-rssreader-app/add_feed_test_fixed_dir_name/+merge/172200
[19:31] <Letozaf_> fginther, seems that I pushed the branch without the ubuntusdk file even if I got it on my laptop
[19:31] <fginther> Letozaf_, jenkins is now running the autopilot tests on each merge proposal
[19:32] <Letozaf_> fginther, but here I see that in jenkins it's ok http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/ubuntu-rssreader-app-ci/
[19:34] <fginther> Letozaf_, the results from your MP are here: http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/ubuntu-rssreader-app-autolanding/5/
[19:34] <Letozaf_> fginther, :( oh! fine
[19:34] <fginther> Letozaf_, there is a bug in the jenkins tools in that the results of the generic-mediumtests which run the autopilot tests didn't get reported to your merge proposal
[19:34] <fginther> I'll try to get that fixed.
[19:35] <Letozaf_> fginther, ok, thanks, just a question, mean time I have added some more tests to rssfedd-app autopilot test, so maybe when I have finisched them I will just propose a new merge paying attengion the ubuntusdk file si there
[19:36] <fginther> Letozaf_, if you can update your launchpad branch with the missing file, the tests will be automatically re-executed.
[19:36] <fginther> Letozaf_, that plan is also fine.
[19:36] <Letozaf_> fginther, ok then I will finish the autopilot test and then re-submit a merge proposal
[19:36] <Letozaf_> fginther, thanks :)
[19:37] <fginther> Letozaf_, Great! my apologies for any testing issues, this has been a little difficult to get right.
[19:37] <Letozaf_> fginther, no problem, I have fun so thats ok
[19:40] <drsaurabhsikka> balloons...
[19:44] <balloons> drsaurabhsikka, yes?
[19:44] <drsaurabhsikka> i'm done with the preliminary work
[19:45] <drsaurabhsikka> connected with your G+ hangout
[19:45] <drsaurabhsikka> now what
[19:45] <drsaurabhsikka> downloading saucy?
[19:45] <balloons> ohh.. gotcha, the flood of stuff blocked your comment :-)
[19:45] <balloons> sorry drsaurabhsikka !
[19:45] <drsaurabhsikka> :)
[19:45] <balloons> yes, saucy is the best to use for QA work
[19:46] <balloons> so download saucy and install it in a VM or on a real machine
[19:46] <drsaurabhsikka> oddly enough, saucy was my nickname in college (short for SAUrabh SIkka)
[19:46] <balloons> interesting :)
[19:46] <drsaurabhsikka> do i need to have raring installed on my hardware ?
[19:46] <balloons> raring isn't required for anything
[19:46] <drsaurabhsikka> testdrive and whatnot?
[19:46] <balloons> so if your willing to upgrade and join the world of testing, upgrade to saucy :-)
[19:47] <balloons> you thinking you want to make a vm of saucy or install it on a real machine?
[19:47] <balloons> etheir one works
[19:47] <drsaurabhsikka> ok... I'm gonna try it tomorrow, it's 1 am here now, and the ISO is downloading
[19:48] <balloons> good night! I'll be around tomorrow as well.. and if you can attend a workshop
[19:48] <drsaurabhsikka> and then what?
[19:48] <balloons> after the install is done?
[19:48] <balloons> install autopilot
[19:48] <drsaurabhsikka> ok
[19:48] <balloons> follow the tutorial
[19:48] <balloons> let me link you again
[19:49] <balloons> http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tutorials/quality/how-to-write-autopilot-tests/
[19:49] <drsaurabhsikka> please do
[19:49] <balloons> that's the best one to start with.
[19:50] <balloons> from there, there's more links to official docs, etc..
[19:50] <drsaurabhsikka> i'll read it through in the morn
[19:50] <balloons> once your ready, there's a walkthrough for working with the core apps themselves: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Testing/ContributeAutopilotTestcase
[19:50] <balloons> but don't rush through it :-)
[19:50] <drsaurabhsikka> the hangout's 24 hours from now?
[19:51] <balloons> the first is tomorrow at 1800 UTC
[19:51] <balloons> so like less than 24 hrs
[19:51] <drsaurabhsikka> 22
[19:51] <drsaurabhsikka> ish
[19:51] <drsaurabhsikka> ok
[19:51] <balloons> yep :-)
[19:51] <drsaurabhsikka> this is fun
[19:52] <drsaurabhsikka> will catch up then
[19:52] <drsaurabhsikka> ciao for now, and thanks for all the fish
[19:52] <balloons> cheers drsaurabhsikka !
[20:35] <phillw> balloons: and this is the *last* time I want to have to deal with vanishing hardware profiles ever again! 2nd time lubuntu-PPC team have lost theirs :(
[20:35] <balloons> :-(
[20:36] <phillw> takes approx 5 mins from a standing start for me to transfer one over, faster if there is more than one (I have to 1st ssh onto my dedi-server :) )
[20:38] <toddy> balloons: the link in the article "Automated Testing Workshops" to the qa-events page on g+ is wrong. the correct link is https://plus.google.com/108452779163647535106/posts
[20:38] <balloons> toddy, yikes, thank you!
[20:39] <balloons> wait, doesn't https://plus.google.com/b/108452779163647535106/events work for you?
[20:39] <balloons> ahh I see.. weird
[20:39] <toddy> no, it doesn't work for me
[20:40] <phillw> +1 it asks me to create a new event :)
[20:40] <balloons> I have to link to each one manually
[20:40] <balloons> yea, let me fix it
[20:40] <balloons> bah!
[20:41] <phillw> balloons: you need a 'media' secretary.... I think you know who I have in mind :P
[20:41] <elfy> that'll be me saying goodbye ...
[20:41] <balloons> ok, try the page and links now :-)
[20:42] <balloons> LOLOLOLOL
[20:42] <elfy> :)
[20:44] <balloons> toddy, phillw links all look good? it doesn't let me link you directly to the events page
[20:44] <balloons> apparently only I can see that.. but I trust the event page for each one works
[20:44] <phillw> balloons: https://plus.google.com/b/108452779163647535106/events still shows me 'create an event'....
[20:44] <balloons> grr
[20:44] <toddy> yes me too
[20:44] <balloons> third time is the charm
[20:44] <balloons> has to be
[20:45] <phillw> elfy: don't worry, I wasn't volunteering you :D
[20:45] <elfy> I wasn't thinking so ...
[20:45] <balloons> ok, I tried in private mode on firefox
[20:46] <balloons> all the links work for me now
[20:46] <balloons> perhaps for you too?
[20:46] <balloons> for example, https://plus.google.com/b/108452779163647535106/events/cersg5v0qr98nla369ddkug6968
[20:47] <balloons> toddy, phillw .. perhaps elfy ^^
[20:47] <balloons> I'm sure it works for elfy he has a golden touch
[20:47] <toddy> balloons: redirect on https://plus.google.com/events/cersg5v0qr98nla369ddkug6968 - Automated Testing Workshop
[20:47] <phillw> balloons: https://plus.google.com/events/cersg5v0qr98nla369ddkug6968 is where that ends up at, and it does work
[20:47] <phillw> there's an echo!!!!
[20:48] <balloons> lol, ok, redirect is fine with me.. glad it's working :-)
[20:48] <toddy> :)
[20:48] <balloons> thanks for pointing it out toddy
[20:48] <elfy> balloons: I can see something - whether it's what I'm supposed to see I know not - I know I'd not deliberately go there given the title :p
[20:48] <balloons> elfy, hehe.. I won't ask you to go any further my friend
[20:49] <balloons> ty
[20:49] <balloons> that was quite brave
[20:49] <elfy> :)
[20:49]  * balloons hands elfy a cookie
[20:49] <elfy> was a bit close to voodoo - scary :(
[20:49] <knome> *seeing* a G+ link is too much for me.
[20:49] <elfy> knome: I went there ... earnt cookie :D
[20:49]  * phillw goes and finds out what happened to my google hangout stuff...
[20:49]  * knome taps elfy on the head
[20:49] <elfy> ouch
[20:50] <knome> not that harshly...
[20:50] <elfy> I'm only little
[20:51] <phillw> I have enough just keeping up with failbook :D
[20:51] <knome> i'm not on facebook either
[21:00] <dkessel> hey everyone :)
[21:03] <balloons> dkessel, hello!
[21:04] <dkessel> balloons, thanks for the mail! i'll try to be there on tuesday.
[21:04] <balloons> dkessel, wonderful to hear :-)
[21:04] <balloons> you'll be happy to see some of the progress that's been made..
[21:05]  * dkessel tries to find out how to recover/change his NickServ password
[21:06] <dkessel> aah...
[21:07] <balloons> so dkessel any questions or something you want to see
[21:10] <dkessel> mh not yet. i rhink i have to read the last blog posts first
[21:22] <elfy> balloons: you're autopilot testing workshops - will the vids etc be available afterwards?
[21:23] <balloons> elfy, hmm.. not sure they would be useful persay
[21:24] <balloons> however I'm going to do an autopilot vid..if all goes well.. tomorrow :-)
[21:26] <elfy> ok - wew're doing a call for xubuntu help - if things are there we can point them at it
[22:06] <balloons> elfy, certainly
[23:11] <slickymaster> balloons: Hi Nicholas, sorry for trouble you again, but I'm still facing problems with my branch.
[23:13] <slickymaster> I've tried to push once again my testcase for xfce4 panel and I got an error message saying that the branches diverged and now it's pretty messes up
[23:13] <slickymaster> what should I do?
[23:14] <slickymaster> Can you just delete it so I can push a fresh new file?