[00:05] wait it only connects to GSM? [00:08] chamunks: The install's easy. [00:08] wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install === Aww is now known as NotAww [00:10] RAOF, thanks :) [00:16] quit [00:40] I just upgraded to GNOME 3.8, and now Popovers don't display their contents in any of the Ubuntu Touch apps - could this have been caused by any recent updates to Ubuntu Touch? I think the error behind that is file:///usr/share/themes/Ambiance/qmltheme/PopoverForegroundDelegate.qml:48:20: Unable to assign QQuickShaderEffectSource to QQuickImage [00:57] iBelieve: you probably upgraded some Qt packages too, I wonder if they changed something in the components or theming api [01:02] mhall119, I just removed GNOME 3.8, I'll reboot and see if it worked. [01:08] mhall119, removing GNOME 3.8 didn't work. In Software Center's history, ubuntu-ui-toolkit-theme (but not just toolkit) shows as updated, maybe that is the cause? [01:08] mhall119, Should I report this as a bug somewhere? [01:21] iBelieve: yes, please report it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+filebug === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [04:12] Hi Guys [05:52] hi folks, i have a linux program (Navit) which runs fine on ubuntu desktop and uses (among other alternatives) Qt4 for graphics output. i have seen that ubuntu touch already comes with Qt5, so if i'd port my program to using Qt5 instead of Qt4, i guess that would give me graphics output on ubuntu touch? i also comes with a qml UI [06:13] xenos1984: I believe that is the case, yes. [06:14] RAOF: sounds good, so i will just try this [06:15] another thing: i read on the release notes wiki page that there is no working sound on the nexus 7 yet - is that still up to date? i'm using the latest saucy image and so far only tried to get some sound output from espeak, but with no success... [06:45] good morning [07:02] Hi, anyone there? [07:10] How can I add accounts to the friends app through the terminal? [07:41] Anyone here to answer a small question? [07:45] !ask | zeokila [07:45] zeokila: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [07:49] Ok, sorry, it's just I've installed the dev preview with the phablet-flash command, and it boots up fine and all, but I'm not sure I've actually got the latest version? I'm not able to call, send SMSs or do anything with telephony or GSM and some applications that I've seen people be able to run are just blank for me, like the calculator [07:53] !patience [07:53] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/ [07:53] !ask [07:53] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [08:14] zeokila: which device? === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [08:27] hi folks! [08:28] just wanted to ask something (I suppose you answered it many times) [08:28] will most of the apps from standart linux os, work on ubuntu-touch? (I suppose yes as long a I compile it for arm...) [08:32] SquirrelCZECH: such as? [08:34] openscad, (terminal is must I suppose0, freecad, playonlinux? :-) [08:34] the last one is too naive I suppose [08:34] well we don't ship x on the phone [08:35] and most traditional linux apps aren't optimised for touch interfaces [08:35] yes, I know about the X thingy [08:36] my point is that I found tablets these days really powerfull [08:36] and in worst case I can use my small "home server" [08:36] so switching from laptop to tablet could be real with Ubuntu OS :-) [08:36] (iPad and Android useless by my opinion) [08:45] Hey, Jenkin is still dead ? [08:45] Good morning all, happy UFO Day! :-D === JamesTai1 is now known as JamesTait [08:51] JamesTait: Ahah it's not the morning for everyone ;) === oreneeshy_ is now known as oreneeshy [08:52] Oranger, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#fst ;) [08:53] JamesTait: Oh, I didn't know that, thanks ;) [08:53] Oranger, but technically, yes, you're dead right. [08:54] JamesTait: I find this rule easier for everybody, so.. you are right ;) === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN [11:00] MP4 Player Not Detected in Ubuntu 12.04 | http://askubuntu.com/q/315369 === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:23] hey, does anyone find unity8 hogging CPU on their devices? [11:25] Saviq, duting usage or idle ? [11:25] ogra_, idle [11:26] i see it bubbling up in htop but it never has above 2% CPU usage while idling [11:26] thats on grouper, yesterdays flipped image [11:26] ogra_, is flipped working fine on grouper now? [11:27] I should perhaps try the brave new world :p [11:27] seb128, yeah, we default to it since last night [11:27] afaik there are still issues on nx10 ... but gnex, n7 and n4 shouldnt be worse than unflipped now [11:44] Hey guys [11:45] I am currently working on a Port of Ubuntu Touch for my Sony Xperia P (nypon) [11:45] KalleWhoever: cool [11:46] but I surfaceflinger and ubuntuappmanager keep on crashing with segmentation faults [11:46] are you sure you have all binary drivers included ? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [11:47] The CM-10.1 Tree for this devices is in a very early stage so it is likely that the drivers aren't set up properly [11:48] I used the proprietary files from a jellybean branch [11:49] so I am pretty sure i have the blobs [11:50] does surfaceflinger work in a plain CM image ? [11:50] It's a bit buggy, but yes [11:51] hmm, then it should in the ubuntu build as well [11:51] :D [11:51] so try to find the missing piece :) [11:52] hmm I excluded wpa_supplicant [11:52] Is there a way this could be related? [11:52] that might kill your wifi, but wont have any effect on SF or the appmanager [11:53] KalleWhoever: using old blobs is never a good idea [11:53] especially between two major versions [11:53] @cdesai There are't any newer blobs available :( [11:53] right, i would use the blobs that you know to work with CM [11:54] ogra_: it isn't supported in 10.1 officially [11:54] if they work in a CM build they should be fine for ubuntu use too [11:54] cdesai, sure, but if a homebrewed CM build works with these blobs i would expect them to be fine [11:54] ogra_: yep. [11:55] so i would blame configuration or missing porting bits ... [11:55] i would go step by step through the porting guide again and verify each step as a first thing [11:59] ok I will try [12:00] maybe I will do a CM build to veryfiy that everythings working [12:00] I don't know if the latest version on github is equal to the latest working version [12:07] hmm custom CM-10.1 source tree still uses old cm.dependencies [12:08] so the new repos are replaced with the old ones everytime I run breakfast nypon === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [12:43] rsalveti: ricmm sergiusens jhodapp ogra_ Can we do our meeting an hour later today? [12:43] Guys do you have to install anything special to get telephony and/or SMS going. I can't find any settings, have not been asked a sim code or anything, and google has not managed to help me. Nexus 4 [12:44] ChickenCutlass, sure, np [12:44] great [12:44] ChickenCutlass, yeah [12:46] zeokila: nope, works out of the box for me [12:47] does it ask you a sim code on boot? [12:48] does phablet-flash get the latest build by itself? [12:51] zeokila: it should [12:52] weird, a lot of things seem broken for me. in the system settings the version is 0.3, does that seem right? [12:53] zeokila: no, no sim code [12:56] actually, i think i've found the problem, phablet-flash apparently didn't download the latest saucy-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip it seems, thanks for your answers anyway === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:06] phew, two more hours and I will know the Porting Guide by heart [13:07] anyone knows if the headphone glitch has been fixed.. Music plays through the speaker [13:07] ChickenCutlass: I'm fine for one hour later [13:08] anyone else get bug 1196955 [13:08] bug 1196955 in touch-preview-images "Notifications cause keyboard to hide" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1196955 [13:08] rsalveti: excellent [13:13] any idea on the current status of the build in terms of usability with the lastest builds [13:13] rsalveti: hey, is the flipped image container by default switch done? can I merge my qtubuntu branch? [13:13] (thand refreshing the seed) [13:13] and* [13:13] didrocks: not yet, we'll send an email when done [13:13] should hopefully be done today [13:14] rsalveti: ok :) Saviq, let's wait for that email then before moving on ^^ [13:14] didrocks, k === juicyjones|away is now known as juicyjones [13:23] Mirv, hello! I have a patch for qtsystems that I'd like you to look at and possibly include, when you push to saucy [13:23] Should be upstreamable, I'll look into doing that too [13:23] Is there a good way to calculate the settings like GRID_UNIT_PX? [13:38] KalleWhoever, see the description on the porting page for screen pixel ratio https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting [13:38] not an exact science [13:43] ogra_: rsalveti lool so I'll apply the patch and then we can look at getting a proper Android.mk to build gpg, I can own that if you want [13:43] sergiusens: Souns good [13:43] +1 [13:44] it's cool if we do a custom build of gpg as to trim it down; it includes many features by default [13:44] I wonder if the security team knows about the sources used to build the android bits [13:44] maybe they ought to track them somehow [13:45] sergiusens: I think I'll write to the security team to mention that stuff going into the recovery ROM initrd is built from phablet.ubuntu.com and that they want to watch software in there for security update [13:45] sergiusens: I'll mention that the binaries are just temporary though [13:45] (thinking of this because of gpg which we'll use to validate our updates) [13:49] hello [13:50] I am testing ubuntu touch on my galaxy nexus [13:50] no network at all [13:50] how can I activate wifi and 3g ? [13:50] by the way, I can't call [13:50] any idea ? [13:51] ttoine: 3G https://plus.google.com/100264483712374857174/posts/3o1tjYo9Ghx [13:52] ttoine: pull down from top right corner to configure wifi networks [13:53] lool, networks: empty [13:53] like the wifi is not activated [13:54] Hey, my new build finished and I am stuck with the same problem [13:54] esigolo, ok, I won't do that. to complicated. I was thinking the phone was able to it now like any other phone OS [13:54] on terminal run nmcli dev [13:54] surfaceflinger does not start because the file hwcomposer is not found [13:55] ttoine: ubuntu touch is on development state [13:55] I know that [13:55] but the file is in its place [13:55] ttoine: i think asas it will be avaliable by UI [13:55] esigolo, but as I saw on twitter people telling they can phone and go on Internet with 3g, I though it was possible [13:56] ttoine: it is [13:56] ttoine: it certainly is possible [13:56] yes [13:56] but out of theb ox [13:56] ttoine: sometimes features break as we move forward [13:56] so at the moment, I have a galaxy nexus without any network connection... [13:57] the first time I tried, wifi worked well, and I enjoyed using the phone. now, it is quite useless [13:57] no I need to get it back to android... and I hope that the wifi will available again [13:57] ttoine: did you flash it today? [13:58] popey, 10 min ago [13:58] did you use phablet-flash? [13:58] but I did a trial in may, and it was nicer [13:58] popey, yes [13:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install [13:59] I followed the howto [13:59] so if you have a cable, you can connect to it using "adb shell" and then we can diagnose the issue [13:59] like anytime I am trying. this is the first time I have no network at all [13:59] popey, yes, if you want [13:59] as I said, it breaks sometimes === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN [14:00] I am on adb shell, my intention was to test contact sync [14:00] i guess you're on the android side.. [14:00] you can get to ubuntu via "uu [14:00] .. [14:00] you can get to ubuntu via "ubuntu_chroot shell" === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw [14:02] popey, ok [14:03] popey, done [14:03] what nmcli dev returns ? [14:03] root@ubuntu-phablet:/# nmcli dev [14:03] DEVICE TYPE STATE [14:04] /ril_0 gsm disconnected [14:04] I don't see the wifi [14:04] you need to mount /proc if you use ubuntu_chroot [14:05] Hey, I rebuild everything and got a more specific logcat [14:05] surfaceflinger still fails with seg fault [14:06] but logcat says hwcomposer has gone missing [14:06] ttoine: might be worth switching to the flipped image.. [14:06] ogra_: do you think? [14:06] popey ? what do you mean ? [14:07] ttoine: we're switching to android-inside-ubuntu rather than ubuntu-inside-android [14:07] you can test that image with "phablet-flash -d --flipped" [14:07] The file is proprietary and perfectly in place but somehow it is not found [14:07] where devicetype is the codename mako, grouper etc [14:08] so, my phone is a maguro, right ? [14:08] by the way, I am surprised that I can't do a simple apt-get update... [14:09] ttoine: if it's a galaxy nexus, yes [14:10] ttoine: You can apt-get update/upgrade, I do it frequently [14:10] so, phablet-flash -d maguro --flipped [14:10] but this is a major change [14:10] which requires more fundamental changes than apt can cope with [14:10] popey, I forget: I doesn"t work, for I have no network... [14:11] that wont help [14:11] ☻ [14:12] Hello installd ubuntu on my phone, but do not haave wifi so i cant upgrade, 3G wont work, is there some soution ? [14:13] can i upgrade with USB cable? [14:13] zippert: https://plus.google.com/100264483712374857174/posts/3o1tjYo9Ghx [14:14] zippert, you too, you don't have wifi ? [14:15] ttoine normaly i use my phone thether for conection [14:15] popey, I launched phablet-flash -d maguro --flipped [14:15] It is downloading again [14:16] what should I expect ? it will flash my phone again [14:16] N [14:16] ? [14:16] yes [14:16] ok [14:16] with a new and more interesting image ☻ [14:16] so I wait and let you know if it fixes the problem ? [14:16] that'd be great. [14:16] * popey gets coffee [14:16] what if I still have no wifi at all ?? [14:17] zippert: let me know if it works please [14:17] popey, flipped is a bit broken this morning on maguro [14:17] I am told [14:17] the command "phablet-flash -d maguro --flipped" is in progress =) [14:18] :) [14:19] pmcgowan, what do bit broken men? [14:19] pmcgowan, not starting at al? [14:20] pmcgowan: hmm. unflipped is also a bit broken. is there a previous image which is better? [14:20] popey, the startup races are being debugged, camera and video may not work [14:20] ttoine: is it still downloading? if so, maybe kill it. if it's pushing to the phone you can kill it too. [14:20] rsalveti: BTW I've copied the couple of changes to the adbd upstart job in the Debian git repo, but it's not worth an upload just for these; if you get a change to test, I could sync and then upload just these to Ubuntu [14:20] popey, I am running the flipped from yesterday [14:20] or I can upload all at once [14:20] pmcgowan: thanks [14:21] popey, 20130701.2 is working on mako for me, not sure maguro [14:21] Surfaceflinger keeps on crashing says hwcomposer was not found [14:21] lool: sure, just want to finish the flip work first [14:21] any help how to debug this? [14:24] 11 min then i know if the maguro flip version is working [14:24] zippert: see above [14:24] popey, still no wifi nor 3g [14:25] I hope that wifi is not broken on the phone, even if I come back to android... [14:25] popey: =( [14:25] ttoine: unlikely [14:26] ttoine: we keep a couple of previous images on the site you can roll back to, to test [14:26] ttoine: there's a "manual install" section on that wiki page [14:27] popey, unfortunately, I can't take too much time for that at the moment. [14:27] maybe it would be great that Jono Bacon don't speak too much of phoning with ubuntu touch: it is not at all easy to set up at the moment ;-) [14:28] ttoine: as I said, it generally works and breaks sometimes. it's under development. [14:29] popey, of course [14:29] It's all good fun ☻ [14:29] I hope my android will get wifi again [14:29] popey, perhaps for you [14:29] but this time, it was not fun for me ;-) [14:29] maby i have to do the waiting game until its a bit more stable [14:30] zippert: or just come in here and ask before flashing? [14:31] =) yah thats are som e good advice [14:32] Is there some rom that are working and where can i get it? [14:32] zippert: i don't have the galaxy nexus, so I would have to defer you to someone who does. perhaps ogra_ [14:33] ok thanks [14:33] are you here? [14:33] popey, ok.. wifi is now broken too on android... [14:34] ttoine: I use it as my main phone on maguro and it works fine for my purposes [14:34] sergiusens, I can't phone... and no wifi neither [14:34] what rom do you use? [14:35] sergiusens, and since I get back to android, no wifi anymore [14:35] ttoine: i think you have a router problem [14:36] I use latest flipped, but I also know how to workaround the issues, and rollback when something gets broken [14:36] if you want something a bit more stable [14:36] phablet-flash --list-revisions [14:37] phablet-flash -r [revision] [14:37] or phablet-flash --latest-revision [14:37] those have some more testing going on [14:38] esigolo, no, I just can't activate the wifi on the system [14:38] It stays on "activating wifi" and nothing happend === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [14:38] what did you do to return to android? [14:38] and the 3G is okey in the last version? [14:38] esigolo, just followed the howto [14:38] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Restoring_Android [14:38] flash_all? [14:39] esigolo, yes [14:39] with yakju-jdq39 [14:39] ttoine: so. you have a fresh new installation ! [14:40] esigolo, yes [14:40] but impossible to activate the wifi... [14:40] I think I will have to lock it again [14:40] Could someone please have a look at this? http://pastebin.com/ppABUTv4 [14:40] and then, have to find some samsung services [14:41] ttoine: wich android version? [14:41] latest [14:42] esigolo, 4.2.2 [14:42] 4.2.2 (JDQ39) ? [14:42] ok [14:42] Does anyone know how to simulate screen rotation? I'm trying to create an app for ubuntu touch with qt/qml on Ubuntu desktop [14:42] ns5: resize the window to be in landscape [14:43] mhall119: yes that's my goal, but what operation can trigger the window resizing? [14:44] Is there a screen rotation signal that can be catched by the app? [14:45] ttoine: i just can't see how ubuntu touch could be responsible for your problem === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [14:49] bzoltan: hi! [14:50] KalleWhoever: what device? This is most likely the problem E/SurfaceFlinger( 3698): hwcomposer module not found [14:50] jdstrand: yo man [14:50] jdstrand: i am on parental leave this week [14:50] bzoltan: ah, congrats! :) [14:50] bzoltan: I have two quick questions-- who shall I direct them to? [14:51] jdstrand: thanks ... feels like release week... no sleep and lots of buzz [14:51] jdstrand: depends on question... shoot them [14:51] bzoltan: it's been a while, but I remember :) it'll get better [14:51] esigolo, me too... [14:52] bzoltan: 1) we've defined the security section of the manifest file. and I wanted to know the best place to present that info (eg, particular mailing list, etc) [14:52] bzoltan: 2) I'd like to file some bugs regarding application paths used by sdk applications. what package should I file them against. should I tag them specially? [14:53] jdstrand: ubuntu-devel would be good imho [14:53] jdstrand: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins/+filebug [14:53] bzoltan: re ubuntu-devel, should I CC you/florian? [14:54] jdstrand: both of us an jppiironen too please [14:54] bzoltan: awesome, thanks! now enjoy your family and get some sleep :) [14:54] jdstrand: np and thanks :) [14:54] ttoine: on galaxy nexus is possible to remove the battery? === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [14:58] hi guys, [14:59] i'm new to ubuntu phone. is it possible to install ubuntu phone on htc one and wipe android? [15:00] imzey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices lists devices with community maintained ports [15:02] sergiusens its for the Xperia P [15:02] popey, so htc one is not available yet. I can see "htc one X" but not "htc one" m7 [15:02] KalleWhoever: from the looks of it you are missing the graphic driver blobs [15:03] The blobs are in place [15:05] esigolo, yes, but it doesn"t change anything [15:05] ns5: are you interested in the device's actual orientation change, or just the change from portrait to landscape sizes? [15:05] I checked every file in /device/sony/nypon/proprietary-files.txt [15:05] they are all where they belong [15:09] mhall119: I want the app to know the current orientation, and to know when there's orientation change so it can automatically change screen size [15:09] How can I debug my issue better? === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [15:11] Are there any design guideline docs for desktop apps? I've seen the design docs for Ubuntu Touch but wondered if there was something similar for desktop apps. [15:15] ns5: if what you want is to respond to screen changes, you don't need to worry about orientation [15:15] ns5: see http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/ubuntu-layouts.html for how to make your app adapt properly [15:16] mhall119: all the app needs to know is screen size? [15:16] I was actually wondering about navigational elements. I know there are the new QML tabs and page stack metaphors but did not know if there was an example of usage in a desktop app [15:17] The tabs make sense on touch but does their behaviour change on desktop (IE show all tabs by default rather than hiding all but one) [15:18] if not, is there the option to make the app show all tabs by default? [15:18] ns5: technically you can use whatever conditions you want to change layouts, but screen size is going to be the most common, yes === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN [15:35] mhall119: how to simulate screen size change in an qt/qml app running on ubuntu desktop? And how does the app detect screensize change? === docsporpcl is now known as casimiro [15:53] Hi! [15:53] I was wondering how ubuntu mobile is like. I like to use my smartphone as a bit of a desktop replacement. I managed to get it running on top of Android. The bottleneck is the VNC Display [15:54] So i was wondering if there will still be a Android Ubuntu Mobile app or only "Bare Metal" on selected phones [15:54] I love it very much to have both [15:54] (Android and Ubuntu) [15:55] Is there a source code to download ? Or maybe even an APK? [15:55] Hm i really should read the topic [15:56] Ah okay i see, its baremetal [15:56] Nonetheless, it would be awesome to have it in LXC or OpenVZ containers or something alike (Fit to run on top) [16:05] Hey ! Does anyone know if the beta of Ubuntu OS can be run on a Wiko Cink Peax ? [16:08] om26er: when you have some time can you please have a look at why this MR makes the tests fail ? https://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/notes-app/new_theming/+merge/171885 [16:09] nerochiaro, sure [16:09] question: if I lock again my phone after reflashing to Android, can samsung see that it has been flashed to Ubuntu ? [16:10] Hey ! Does anyone know if the beta of Ubuntu OS can be run on a Wiko Cink Peax ? [16:11] mterry: hi, if you could, please file a bug against ubuntu-ui-toolkit (qtsystems not yet there) with the patch attached, and I'll check it in the morning === jhodapp is now known as jhodapp|lunch [16:16] gestahlt: you're talking of Ubuntu for Android? We don't have any software available for download of that. [16:16] gestahlt: we have Ubuntu Touch preview, which is ubuntu on the device, not android. [16:25] Popey: Yes, i saw that. So there will be no "app" to have ubuntu on top of android? [16:34] gestahlt: We haven't announced any plans for that yet. === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [16:38] ns5: you just need to resize the window to simulate a screen size change [16:38] the Layouts code in the Ubuntu SDK will handle detecting the change and applying a layout given the conditions you provided [16:41] ogra_: rsalveti: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ has "ubuntu-touch" and "ubuntu-touch-preview" directories, what's the difference? [16:41] mhall119: flipped x unflipped [16:41] which is which? [16:42] -preview is the old one [16:42] mhall119: in order :-) [16:42] rsalveti: ogra_: thanks :) [16:42] mhall119: Actually in my code the size of the elements are calulated from screen size. I don't want to hardcode any screen size in the code. When launching the app, how to tell it that the current screen size is, say, 960*540 (portrait)? And how to simulate a screen rotation so that the app can detect screen size change? [16:42] yeah, the -preview is what we now call 'legacy' === alan_g is now known as alan_g|reboot === jhodapp|lunch is now known as jhodapp [16:46] ns5: you can use the .width and .height properties of your top-level QML component (such as MainView) [16:46] that will give you the screen sizes on a device, and the window sizes on the desktop [16:47] using the Layouts API from the Ubuntu SDK, you can give an alternate layout if mainview.width > mainview.height (aka, landscape), and it will take care of detecting the change and applying the different layout [16:48] Kaleo: I am happy to see your simple themeing branch merged. Does this mean we can implement gradient backgrounds? [16:48] mhall119: and what will the size of the MainView be? Fill my entire desktop? [16:50] ns5: on desktop it will use the default width and height values you apply to the MainView [16:50] on the device, it will use the full screen size [16:50] sorry [16:50] but resizing the window on the desktop is the the same as changing the orientation on a phone/tablet as far as the app is concerned [16:51] nik90: not yet but it is a step towards that [16:51] nik90: the important 2nd step will be https://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/color_palette [16:51] nik90: that's for this week [16:51] nik90: next week the final step will happen with an API for you to set the background color of the app [16:54] Kaleo: perfect [16:54] thnx [16:54] nik90: which app are you on? [16:56] Kaleo: clock app [16:56] anyone knows where the .deb packages end up when I "build application on device" from qtcreator? [16:56] nik90: cool [16:56] nik90: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5837817/ [16:56] I think they used to go somewhere in /home/phablet, but I cannot find it now :s maybe something changed with the flipped image? [16:56] nik90: that's very good [16:56] nik90: you are not harcoding any color [16:57] nik90: except for the needed background colors [16:57] nik90: oh I see you have a Constants dict [16:57] Kaleo: yes but I guess i dont need the constant dict anymore with UbuntuColors [16:58] nik90: sort of [16:58] Kaleo: I decided to wait for the theme support rather than hardcode background colors etc which will be removed [16:58]