[00:04] <whoever> how do i use/ launch unity-calander-lens ? I installed it , and restarted  and i have tried calendar, unity-calendar-lens  and command not found, can someone assist
[00:05] <whoever> am i missing soething that i don't know about
[00:07] <ijwyn> hey all, I hope someone can help as I'm fairly new to ubuntu (though not to linux) and am having some odd issues with this machine
[00:08] <ijwyn> so I'm running ubuntu and gnome on a dedicated server
[00:08] <ijwyn> been running for about a year without ever crashing, so it's been fairly stable
[00:08] <daftykins> but...?
[00:08] <reisio> but now he has to update it :p
[00:08] <ijwyn> but the last few days, it's been acting weird... first the task bar disappeared on me, than apps started crashing right and left
[00:08] <reisio> 's'cause you updated it :p
[00:09] <ijwyn> well that's the thing, I can't even update as the update manager is one of the things that keeps crashing :-o
[00:09] <reisio> if you truly didn't alter the software, then it's a hardware issue
[00:09] <digital> ijwyn: what recent changes have you made? (if any)
[00:09] <ijwyn> I take it this means it's a known issue?
[00:09] <reisio> but that's unlikely
[00:09] <ijwyn> i doubt it's a hardware issue as it's an OVH account, I don't have any control over that in any case
[00:10] <daftykins> ijwyn: run memtest
[00:10] <ijwyn> and I haven't done any specific changes, aside from going with the updates up until the app started crashing
[00:10] <reisio> I also doubt it
[00:10] <daftykins> oh OVH
[00:10] <reisio> you probably updated something :p
[00:10] <digital> ijwyn: it could be a ram issue.  are you able to take the server offline for a while?
[00:10] <ijwyn> yeah, I'm starting to think I might have updated something I shouldn't have
[00:10] <reisio> :p
[00:11] <reisio> go through your log, revert the most recent updates
[00:11] <ijwyn> digital: I haven't tried it, but I did do a reboot, hoping it would fix the issue, and while it did fix the task bar all the apps still keep crashing, so the problem is still there
[00:11] <ijwyn> daftykins: hmm, i don't seem to have memtest installed
[00:13] <daftykins> ijwyn: it's a boot CD thing as opposed to an application, but since you say it's not really a physical PC it's not a relevant idea
[00:13] <digital> ijwyn: if you can cope with the server being down for a little while, run Memtest86 on it.  If that crashes you have a hardware fault somewhere.  If it reports a ram issue you've found the problem and if it says the ram is ok and doesn't crash, you know it's a software issue.
[00:13] <ijwyn> daftykins: oh ok
[00:13] <daftykins> ijwyn: can you run CLI update commands?
[00:14] <ijwyn> yeah, I'm connected to the server two ways, one is through a graphical interface (nxclient) where stuff keeps crashing, the other is a shell connection which seems more stable
[00:14] <ijwyn> digital: yeah, I could probably do that as I'm not actively using the server yet, it's still in experimental stages, heh
[00:14] <digital> hmmm, you might have upset gnome somehow.
[00:15] <digital> ijwyn: i just think it will give you the most conclusive results.
[00:15] <ijwyn> it's quite possible, as I'm noticing KDE apps seem stable (Krusader, for instance, hasn't crashed once) whereas stuff like the update manager, firefox or other gnome-specific apps (even settings stuff) crash instantly, or almost instantly
[00:16] <digital> Has anyone here installed CUDA in ubuntu?
[00:16] <gboy> brand new to ubuntu, just got it on a chromebook, having a hard time running Tor, getting a Vidalia error - I'm a real beginner
[00:17] <ijwyn> digital: I'll give it a shot... could you tell me how to run that Memtest86 thing though, if the server is down?
[00:19] <digital> ijwyn: Have a look here - http://www.memtest86.com/download.htm - I always use the linux/usb option.  just boot it up and the test is pretty straightforward.
[00:20] <ubuntu> Hi
[00:20] <ubuntu> I need help
[00:20] <gboy> not sure how this works
[00:20] <ijwyn> eh, problem is usb would require physical access to the server, which i don't have... heck, come to think of it, i'm not even sure I could run this because though I can shut down the server, it's considered as a problem by OVH and they manually reset it, typically within a few minutes, hmm
[00:21] <digital> aaah, they'd probably have to run memtest64 then
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu, stat your problem to the channel for help.
[00:22] <ijwyn> i have no idea
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> state*
[00:23] <Guest82489> I've installed Ubuntu 13.04,  from Windows 7 using a USB - I had use Pen Drive Linux's USB Installer. I try and install it. & all I get is failling
[00:23] <ijwyn> btw, if it helps, I get a lot of core dumps everytime I try to start something from a terminal
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> Guest82489, Have you resized W7 from its disk management and left an unallocated space? Do you know the limitation in amount and types of partitions on a single HD?
[00:24] <semitones_tea> Hello!
[00:24] <semitones_tea> Just for clarity's sake, if I put a bash script in /etc/init.d, that gets run on boot, right?
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> Guest82489, If you are trying a wubi install, it is not supported anymore.
[00:25] <Guest82489> wilee-nilee: No I didn't touch any of that
[00:26] <Guest82489> I'm running a it live, could I re-download it and burn it again, also how much space do I need on the USb
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> Guest82489, You want to resize windows with its partitioner and reboot so it runs the auto chkdsk, then install ubuntu in the unallocated space being aware of the limitations in types and amount of partitions.
[00:26] <Guest82489> I've lost windows
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> Guest82489, So what is your final goal here?
[00:27] <Guest82489> I don't know wilee
[00:27] <ijwyn> digital: so let's assume it's a software issue (which I'm guessing is the most likely scenario) how would I go about fixing it, or figuring out what exactly is causing this in the first place?
[00:28] <Guest82489> If I re-download it burn it to  a USB would that work
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> Guest82489, You can tab complete nicks so we are informed your talking to us if so. Figure out what you want and we can help. Is windows actually gone or just not booting?
[00:29] <digital> ijwyn: have a look through your log files as soon as something weird happens.  Hopefully there will be a clue in there.
[00:29] <Guest82489> Complete gone
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> Guest82489, It would be nice to see what is on the HD can you on the live cd take a screenshot of gparted and imagbin it.
[00:30] <ijwyn> digital: wow, I can't even do that... gedit crashes, and so does... vi, of all things!!! what the heck...
[00:30] <philwong> question, can you effectivley run ubuntu from a usb stick?
[00:31] <Guest82489> Oh right okay
[00:31] <philwong> or is it brutally slow
[00:31] <ijwyn> it just says "segmentation fault" in the terminal
[00:31] <ijwyn> this is seriously messed up
[00:31] <dlam> i got endless stream of this SSL error in /var/log/syslog,  anyone know what to check?    "SSL error might have been: error:140940E5:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:ssl handshake failure"
[00:31] <dlam> maybe i gotta upgrade some package or something?
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> philwong, You can do a full install or a iso loaded with a persistent file, the persistent fills up though.
[00:31] <ironhalik> hmm, why is there no pygobject package in ubuntu 13.04? The site says there is a metpackage with this name, while apt can't see it
[00:31] <graingert> philwong: it's fine but why would you want to
[00:32] <philwong> well..
[00:32] <reisio> ironhalik: ask apt-file
[00:32] <graingert> ijwyn: sounds like something nasty
[00:32] <graingert> ijwyn: re-install?
[00:32] <philwong> I just dont want my main OS effected
[00:32] <philwong> I only use 1 HD
[00:32] <tgm4883> ironhalik, are you looking for python-gobject ?
[00:32] <ijwyn> I'm tempted to do that, but I fear I may lose a lot of data in the process, grrr
[00:32] <digital> ijwyn: try using nano from the terminal.
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> !who | Guest82489 if you do not use nicks we may miss your post.
[00:33] <ijwyn> digital: nice one! that one seems to work
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> !tab
[00:33] <elisa87> how can I mount an image without using sudo? I installed fuseiso but it is not recognized in the cluster with which I am working while it is recognized in my local machine. I am not authorized to use sudo for mount in the cluster and I was looking for a mount image which can work in user space
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[00:33] <philwong> if I install ubuntu on a windows hardrive side by side under a different partition, will windows get slower?
[00:33] <ironhalik> tgm4883: well, I'm looking for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pygobject
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> Guest82489, type the first couple letters of who you are posting to then hit the tab to complete them.
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> philwong, no
[00:34] <ijwyn> *bangs head against wall*
[00:34] <digital> ijwyn: it's a simple yet powerful editor and if that doesn't run it's probably reinstall time.
[00:34] <ijwyn> now the terminal crashed and now nano segfaults too *rolls eyes*
[00:34] <philwong> ok\
[00:34] <tgm4883> ironhalik, so then yes?
[00:35] <Guest82489> What you mean?
[00:35] <graingert> Guest82489: change your change your nick name /nick somenick
[00:35] <ijwyn> ok, so reinstall time I guess, bah
[00:35] <tgm4883> ironhalik, do you want the source package or the binary package?
[00:35] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: wait what
[00:35] <graingert> ijwyn: use a live cd to do a backup
[00:35] <rlw980> there
[00:35] <graingert> rlw980: cool
[00:35] <ironhalik> tgm4883: yeah, but I don't have it under apt-get
[00:35] <digital> ijwyn: is that with no gui involved?
[00:35] <philwong> also, if after I want to delete the ubuntu partition, will that section of partition automatically become part of windows again?
[00:35] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: can you think of anything that might have caused this to happen?
[00:35] <ijwyn> graingert: can't, it's a remote server
[00:35] <philwong> or do I have to manually set that partition again
[00:35] <graingert> rlw980: now type grai[tab key]
[00:35] <ironhalik> tgm4883: thats what confuses me :>
[00:36] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: also, why on *earth* are you running a GUI on a server?
[00:36] <ijwyn> digital: tried both, segfaults in both cases, with and without the gui
[00:36] <rlw980> graingert,
[00:36] <tgm4883> ironhalik, well without any insight into what you WANT to do, I can't point you in a direction
[00:36] <graingert> rlw980: congrat
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> Guest82489, If I am speaking to you I type enough of your nick "Guest82489" to get the taping of the tab key to complete your whole nick this adds a comma and highlights to you that someone is addressing you.
[00:36] <graingert> wilee-nilee: they are called rlw980
[00:36] <tking> am trying to install thunderbird please how do i do it, i have the tar.bz2 file on my desktop please advise, its older version as i dont want the latest from the repository
[00:36] <ijwyn> gordonjcp: I have no idea what caused it, except for me doing regular updates, I guess I updated something I shouldn't have, heh
[00:37] <ijwyn> and I run a GUI because it's more practical and nxclient is there for that
[00:37] <graingert> tking: why do you want an old version?
[00:37] <graingert> tking: why do you want to compile from source?
[00:37] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: stuff segfaulting randomly shouldn't really happen and tends to either indicate dying hardware or some sort of intrusion
[00:37] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: <shrug> each to their own, but I don't see how it would be more practical
[00:37] <graingert> rlw980: please keep it to the channel
[00:37] <tgm4883> ironhalik, so let me ask, why do you want to install pygobject
[00:38] <ironhalik> tgm4883: I want to install this package :>
[00:38] <rlw980> How big does the USB has to be to make it bootable
[00:38] <tking> griangert, i dont need to compile it i guess, its because i want to grab emails with a plugin not compatible with the latest
[00:38] <ijwyn> I guess I could take it up with technical support, but I'm somewhat doubtful they'll be any use here...
[00:38] <ironhalik>  apt-cache show pygobject
[00:38] <ironhalik> N: Unable to locate package pygobject
[00:38] <digital> ijwyn: hmmm, that's not good. I can't think of anything you can try is the system is unstable.  Can you get someone to test the hardware?
[00:38] <tgm4883> ironhalik, so you just picked a random package name and thought "I think i'll try and install this"?
[00:38] <graingert> tking: why not install add-on compatibliy checker?
[00:38] <blckpythn> I think I made a mistake...
[00:38] <tking> graingert, how do i do that, never heard of it
[00:38] <gordonjcp> ironhalik: so, install it then
[00:39] <ironhalik> gordonjcp: N: Unable to locate package pygobject
[00:39] <ijwyn> digital: yeah, I guess technical support could *at least* do that... hmm, come to think of it I might be able to do it myself through the OVH web interface, I'm gonna have to check that
[00:39] <tgm4883> ironhalik, correct, that package doesn't exist
[00:39] <gordonjcp> ironhalik: well, that's not the name of the package
[00:39] <graingert> tking: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/
[00:39] <blckpythn> So, I installed cinnamon and was making changes and after an Alt+F2, r, enter, neither Cinnamon or Unity will load now.
[00:40] <funky> who here used storm on demand?
[00:40] <ironhalik> tgm4883: gordonjcp yet I can download it as a deb from launchpad :>
[00:40] <blckpythn> It loads when I log in as Guest but that's it.
[00:40] <tgm4883> ironhalik, where?
[00:40] <tking> so how do i use it to install what i want?
[00:40] <graingert> tking: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/checkcompatibility/?src=search
[00:41] <ironhalik> tgm4883: sorry, tar.gz
[00:41] <tgm4883> ironhalik, exactly
[00:41] <graingert> tking: install that then install your add-on
[00:41] <digital> ijwyn: if you can get nano to behave for long enough, you could see if there is anything interesting in the syslog.  If this was my server though, I'd be looking for hardware faults at this stage.
[00:41] <graingert> don't compile stuff from source it will break your debian when you run `sudo make install`
[00:41] <tgm4883> ironhalik, so as i asked before, why are you trying to install pyobject? You are obviously trying to install it because you need it for something else, so what else needs it?
[00:42] <ijwyn> digital: yeah, it does sound weird, I'll try another reboot it seems to be a bit more stable after it just starts up, so perhaps it'll give me enough time to look at those logs
[00:42] <tgm4883> ironhalik, unless you are actually trying to develop on pygobject, in which case, I can help you get the pygobject source
[00:42] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: anything in dmesg/syslog?
[00:43] <ironhalik> tgm4883: Im fiddling with gtk development, just my first look
[00:43] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: if it's a VPS, you must consider the possibility that the host machine is sick ;-)
[00:43] <tgm4883> ironhalik, in python?
[00:43] <ironhalik> tgm4883: from what I googled, pygobject is a metapackage that contains all packages needed for python gtk dev
[00:43] <ironhalik> tgm4883: yeah
[00:43] <tgm4883> ironhalik, python 2 or python 3?
[00:43] <ironhalik> 3
[00:43] <tgm4883> ironhalik, no, pygobject is not a metapackage
[00:43] <tgm4883> ironhalik, sec
[00:43] <ijwyn> gordonjcp: haven't been able to read it yet, as all my text editors are segfaulting :-o trying to reboot and see if one will hold up long enough for me to read through that stuff
[00:44] <tgm4883> ironhalik, you likely want python3-gi
[00:44] <tking> graingert, The email address crawler 3 could not be installed with thunderbird 17.07
[00:44] <graingert> tking: did you install the compatability check disabler?
[00:44] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: anything else segfaulting?  If normal binutils stuff is segfaulting that is starting to smell awfully like an intrusion
[00:44] <tking> graingert, yes
[00:44] <tking> i did
[00:44] <tking> and enabled it
[00:44] <ironhalik> tgm4883: yeah, reading through the package lists etc I figured that out. Just wasn't sure if Im not missing some modules by installing just python3-gi
[00:44] <tgm4883> ironhalik, if you want to do stuff with cairo as well, then you'll probably also want python3-gi-cairo
[00:45] <blckpythn> I have a feeling my issue is easy to solve, but I don't know where to begin
[00:45] <tgm4883> ironhalik, well, you're missing all the python 2 stuff for it. Which is fine if you're developing in python 3
[00:45] <graingert> tking: in about:config?
[00:45] <graingert> extensions.checkCompatibility
[00:45] <ironhalik> tgm4883: currently, I installed python-gobject-dev which seems to contain all needed packages
[00:45] <ijwyn> gordonjcp: well, almost everything is segfaulting, except it seems Krusader
[00:46] <ijwyn> I'm not sure I see the connection with an intrusion though? how would that make stuff segfault?
[00:46] <graingert> tking: duuude, thunderbird 3
[00:46] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: because frequently stuff that is not germane to the operation of the rootkit is disrupted to make it harder to track down what's going on
[00:46] <tking> graingert, what? please can u explain
[00:46] <graingert> tking: also a nasty spammy add-on
[00:46] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: what else is running on the server?
[00:46] <ironhalik> tgm4883: either way, I've got my first window drawn, so it seems to work. Thanks for the help
[00:46] <tgm4883> ironhalik, yw
[00:47] <Scrivener> Anyone know why Firefox doesn't seem to use Unity integration on my desktop installation but not laptop installation? Same level of updates, same Ubuntu extensions in each (default installation in each), both on 13.04.
[00:47] <Scrivener> Laptop looks far prettier due to Firefox not having its own bulky border in addition to the menus that appear in the Ubuntu panel.
[00:47] <tking> graingert, i want to remove emails from my inbox and add them to my address book that why i need the addon because its tidious to add emails 1 by 1
[00:47] <tking> it works with tunderbird 7.0.1
[00:48] <graingert> tking: emails can't ho into the address book
[00:48] <graingert> s/ho/go/
[00:48] <tking> ?
[00:48] <graingert> do you mean email addresses or emails
[00:48] <graingert> when you say emails
[00:48] <ijwyn> gordonjcp: well, not much at this point, I'm mostly testing the server, and since I'd just rebooted it didn't have anything fancy, no apache or httpd yet
[00:48] <tking> graingert, email address, from sender
[00:49] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: the fact that it's got a GUI and some remote control software on it makes me deeply suspicious
[00:49] <tking> graingert, it crawls the FROM field and save the emails
[00:49] <ijwyn> nano's working again, yay
[00:49] <blckpythn> Scrivener, I tried asking a question too, I think they're really caught up in this other guy's email issue.
[00:49] <tgm4883> ijwyn, this is a VPS? Who is it from?
[00:50] <graingert> hmm
[00:50] <Scrivener> blckpythn, it's alright, I'll just repost my question a little later.
[00:50] <digital> anyone had problems with ubuntu and nvidia drivers?
[00:50] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: just looking at the nxclient stuff
[00:50] <ijwyn> tgm4883: the server is with OVH
[00:50] <graingert> tking: bitch at the add-on developer
[00:50] <Scrivener> And continue research on my own. Googling this issue yields something rather opposite though.
[00:50] <Scrivener> There was a widespread problem of Firefox's menus disappearing.
[00:51] <Scrivener> But in my case it has a border instead of integrating with Unity.
[00:51] <blckpythn> Google didn't find squat for mine
[00:51] <Scrivener> And I don't know why.
[00:51] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: that nxclient stuff looks sketchy as all hell
[00:51] <tking> graingert, how do i install the older version of thunderbird 17.0.1 i got the tar.bz2 file which i already extracted
[00:51] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: wipe and reinstall
[00:52] <graingert> tking: why not install the debian package?
[00:52] <tking> cant find it i guess
[00:53] <tgm4883> gordonjcp, are you sure they don't install that by default?
[00:53] <gordonjcp> tgm4883: no, they definitely do not
[00:53] <gordonjcp> tgm4883: I have a couple of OVH VPSes and a kimsufi box
[00:53] <tgm4883> ok
[00:53] <ijwyn> is there a way to select everything in nano? not seeing an option for that in the man file...
[00:53] <ijwyn> kimsufi is what I have to be more specific
[00:53] <tking> graingert, i cant find the deb file older version
[00:53] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: it's either faulty or 0wned
[00:54] <graingert> :(
[00:54] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: either way, now is a great time to contact tech support
[00:54] <ijwyn> yeah, that's what I'm thinking too :-o
[00:54] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: if you haven't got anything important on it, wipe and reinstall
[00:54] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: if it comes back to life and works properly, then it wasn't faulty, it was just not under your control
[00:54] <ijwyn> well that's problem, I have quite a few things on there that I'd like to keep, and since I never managed to get a working ftp connection to the box, it's a bit of a problem :-o
[00:55] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: and stay away from stuff like nxclient
[00:55] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: spend a fiver, get an OVH VPS for a month?
[00:55] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: ftp is a great way to get broken into
[00:55] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: use sftp
[00:56] <ijwyn> gordonjcp: well, the thing is, I'd tried a number of other clients and nx was the only one that gave decent results (ie. a connection that wouldn't be amazingly slow)
[00:56] <Marek76> hello
[00:56] <digital> I use ftp, but only with virtual users
[00:56] <Marek76> looking for channel about edc17
[00:56] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: right, but don't use graphical stuff on servers
[00:56] <Marek76> ecu's
[00:56] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: it makes no sense
[00:56] <ijwyn> gordonjcp: what's the difference between a VPS and kimsufi?
[00:56] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: a kimsufi is an actual physical box
[00:56] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: a VPS is a virtual machine, hosted somewhere on a physical box
[00:57] <ijwyn> and that's more secure?
[00:57] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: well, security isn't the issue
[00:57] <mrsudoer> VPS, right?
[00:57] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: it'll give you somewhere to stash your files while you unbork your kimsufi
[00:57] <ijwyn> well, if I got hacked, it would be, no? ;-)
[00:57] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: if you don't pay them next month, then in another month or so they'll just wipe it
[00:57] <tgm4883> SSH is a good tool for managing servers
[00:58] <philwong> can you run ubuntu from a external HD?
[00:58] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: that's fine, because you'll have got your server fixed and copied everything back by then
[00:58] <gordonjcp> philwong: yes, slowly
[00:58] <gordonjcp> philwong: USB3 might be okay
[00:58] <ijwyn> well, actually, I also have a hubiC account, if that's what you mean (ie. cloud) but it's not working very well and have been having trouble connecting to it in ubuntu
[00:58] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: oh don't even bother with that, just copy the stuff across from one machine to the other directly
[00:59] <gordonjcp> scp -r ~/stuff_i_want_to_keep mygroovynewvps.mydomain.mytld:
[00:59] <ijwyn> *blinks* how would I do that? I thought cloud was the way to do it
[00:59] <gordonjcp> bam
[00:59] <gordonjcp> done
[00:59] <ijwyn> aaaahhh
[00:59] <ijwyn> didn't know that, lol
[00:59] <gordonjcp> especially since it won't even leave OVH most likely and go hooning across their gigabit ethernet
[00:59] <ijwyn> would I run that from OVH or my home box?
[01:00] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: you'd run it from your OVH machine, pointing at your other OVH machine ;-)
[01:00] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: and you really, really need to not be using a GUI for managing your server
[01:00] <gordonjcp> what exactly do you do, on the GUI, anyway?
[01:00] <ijwyn> oh, I was thinking of sending it to my own machine, but that could work...
[01:00] <gordonjcp> nothing server-y has a GUI interface
[01:00] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: if it's not a lot of stuff and you've got a fast connection you can copy it home
[01:01] <ijwyn> well, let's put it this way: I have no patience for cli, it tends to drive me nuts, gui's are just quicker (ie. more practical as I said before)
[01:01] <gordonjcp> scp -r myknackeredkimsufi.mydomain.mytld:/path/to/stuff .
[01:01] <ijwyn> I have no memory, so remembering all the commands and options is a big pain for me
[01:01] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: what do you actually use the GUI for though?
[01:01] <Scrivener> Externalized vs. internalized knowledge
[01:01] <gordonjcp> there is no way to manage anything on a Linux server from a GUI
[01:02] <tgm4883> ijwyn, probably worth mentioning that if the box is owned, that you shouldn't be backing up any binaries/scripts from there and that you should blow away any SSH keys you may have
[01:02] <gordonjcp> tgm4883: +1
[01:02] <ijwyn> gordonjcp: everything, I use it like my home machine, to run stuff, I'll double click an icon to run Krusader for instance, which is a great file manager which I couldn't run in a shell account
[01:02] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: I am struggling to understand why you'd do that
[01:02] <tgm4883> I would also argue that SSH is faster for server management
[01:02] <ijwyn> tgm4883: nah, no binaries, was mainly thinking videos and music stuff
[01:02] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: how would you manage Apache, for example?
[01:03] <chaotix> would anyone recommend that i install keypassx? it is in the software center on the meain screen
[01:03] <gordonjcp> chaotix: do you have a lot of passwords to remember?
[01:03] <tgm4883> chaotix, uh, do you want to use keypassx?
[01:03] <chaotix> i would like to
[01:03] <tgm4883> I use lastpass
[01:03] <ijwyn> gordonjcp: it's a daemon, doesn't really need managing, I just run it like I do on my own machine runs in the background
[01:03] <tgm4883> chaotix, well if you want to use it, then yes, you do need to install it ;)
[01:04] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: I don't think you really understand servers
[01:04] <chaotix> my question was, how was your experience with it
[01:04] <gordonjcp> anyway, it's 2am, I'm off to bed
[01:04] <tgm4883> chaotix, it works really well. We use it at work.
[01:04] <gordonjcp> it's hard to type with this cat asleep on my hand
[01:04] <ijwyn> g'night, and thanks for the help gordonjcp
[01:04] <ijwyn> lol @ the cat comment
[01:05] <tgm4883> chaotix, I run into some bug that it doesn't display the whole password when trying to view it, but a copy&paste grabs the whole password
[01:05] <chaotix> tgm4883, thanks
[01:05] <blckpythn> I have a question
[01:05] <tgm4883> blckpythn, shoot
[01:05] <blckpythn> So, I installed cinnamon and was making changes and after an Alt+F2, r, enter, neither Cinnamon or Unity will load now. Where do I begin?
[01:05] <shiman6> is there a bug in ubuntu for sound? I have an x61s, and the higher i turn up the volume, the choppier the sound, but only when it's on the built in speakers
[01:05] <tgm4883> ijwyn, I must echo gordonjcp. Run servers with a minimal attack footprint
[01:06] <tgm4883> blckpythn, probably with ~/.xsession-errors
[01:06] <gordonjcp> tgm4883: yup
[01:06] <blckpythn> Ok...problem, I can't even get a terminal
[01:06] <tgm4883> shiman6, I'm sure there are lots of bugs with sound ;)
[01:06] <tgm4883> blckpythn, not even with ctrl+alt+F1
[01:06] <shiman6> tgm4883: why, thank you ;p
[01:06] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: a closed-source binary-only "remote access" app is not safe
[01:06] <blckpythn> Correction, I can get a terminal :P
[01:07] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: prove that nxclient isn't just sending all your keystrokes to some random criminal in Russia, or the US
[01:07] <blckpythn> I get a permission denied with ~/.xsession-errors
[01:07] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: you can pretty much guarantee that any password you ever typed into that machine is now compromised
[01:07] <blckpythn> Forgive me, I'm new
[01:07] <tgm4883> blckpythn, I'd cat that file and look for errors
[01:08] <tgm4883> blckpythn, you shouldn't
[01:08] <ijwyn> gordonjcp: well, it does seem like a rather popular app though, if it really was THAT bad, wouldn't it be known by now? just a bit surprised by all this...
[01:08] <tgm4883> blckpythn, do you own everything in your ~/ dir?
[01:08] <blckpythn> Pretty fresh install, so yeah
[01:08] <tgm4883> blckpythn, well if you get permission denied, then no, you don't
[01:09] <blckpythn> I installed 2 hours ago...how could I not?
[01:09] <tgm4883> blckpythn, IDK, do 'ls -la ~/'
[01:09] <blckpythn> -rw on .xsession-errors
[01:10] <tgm4883> ijwyn, again, minimal attack footprint. Tunnel all that over an SSH tunnel then have it only listen on localhost
[01:10] <tgm4883> (or just don't use a gui ;) )
[01:10] <tgm4883> blckpythn, what is the full permissions?
[01:10] <ijwyn> gui's are getting lots of love here, lol
[01:11] <ijwyn> guess I shouldn't be surprised though, heh
[01:11] <tgm4883> ijwyn, well for servers, they won't get a lot of love anywhere
[01:11] <blckpythn> uh sorry, cat ~/.xsession-errors works
[01:11] <blckpythn> again, very new
[01:11] <tgm4883> blckpythn, any error messages look exciting?
[01:12] <blckpythn> JS ERROR: !!! looks exciting
[01:12] <blckpythn> lots of excietment really
[01:12] <ijwyn> I don't use the machine *just* as a server, though, possibly that is my problem, but using two machines would be a bit expensive...
[01:12] <tgm4883> blckpythn, Did you say the guest account works?
[01:12] <blckpythn> Yeah oddly enough
[01:13] <tgm4883> blckpythn, ok, so rather than use tty1, you should login as a guest, then open a terminal and change to your user to grab this info
[01:13] <tgm4883> blckpythn, you installed this two hours ago?
[01:13] <blckpythn> yeah...
[01:13] <tgm4883> blckpythn, I'd probably just create a new user, copy over any files I wanted to keep and delete the old user
[01:14] <krabador> iat'v'n a ddurm' !!!!!!
[01:14] <blckpythn> dpkg-reconfigure?
[01:14] <tgm4883> blckpythn, no, useradd
[01:15] <blckpythn> I know, I'm just saying, would that not fix it?
[01:16] <tgm4883> blckpythn, no. if it works for the guest account it's not a system wide issue
[01:16] <hf5e> A question if I install ubuntu on the same HD as windows, if after I want to delete ubuntu from the hardrive, will the Ubuntu partition automaticaly marge back with the window partition?
[01:16] <tgm4883> blckpythn, it's something in your home directory
[01:16] <wheatthin> hf5e, nope
[01:16] <tgm4883> blckpythn, is there anything in your home directory worth saving?
[01:16] <huttan> hf5e: nope, u'd have to open disk management in windows and fill out the windows partition
[01:17] <hf5e> is it easy to do that?
[01:17] <tgm4883> hf5e, assuming you aren't using wubi, what ^^ said
[01:17] <blckpythn> No, nothing worth saving
[01:17] <huttan> hf5e: its very easy :)
[01:17] <blckpythn> I'd like to keep the username though >_<
[01:18] <hf5e> ok
[01:18] <tgm4883> blckpythn, so you could probably just do 'rm -rf ~/*'
[01:18] <hf5e> and second question is can the ubuntu 13 theme be changed?
[01:18] <blckpythn> ahahaha
[01:18] <huttan> hf5e: if ur talking about the looks of ur GUI .. yeah, any way u want
[01:18] <tgm4883> blckpythn, that will delete everything in your home directory, then just copy over the default stuff from /etc/skel/
[01:18] <blckpythn> ok, worth a shot
[01:18] <hf5e> I would like it to look like the odler ubuntus
[01:18] <hf5e> is it possible?
[01:19] <hf5e> like I mean not with this side bar thing
[01:19] <huttan> hf5e: like without Unity ?
[01:19] <tgm4883> !nounity
[01:19] <blckpythn> Everything is still there...
[01:19] <blckpythn> even .xsession-errors.old
[01:19] <huttan> hf5e: that should be sufficient help for you mate
[01:19] <tgm4883> you ran that full command while logged in as yourself (not guest)?
[01:20] <hf5e> thanks
[01:20] <blckpythn> Yeah, sudo su too
[01:20] <tgm4883> blckpythn, you added sudo su? or you ran that command, then another command with sudo su added?
[01:20] <tgm4883> blckpythn, because if you just added sudo su, then yea, that probably wouldn't work
[01:20] <blckpythn> sudo su.... then rm -rf ~/*
[01:21] <tgm4883> blckpythn, so you basically told it to delete everything in /root/
[01:21] <blckpythn> that would explain why nothing happened...
[01:21] <tgm4883> blckpythn, don't do that
[01:21] <hf5e> I dont see "ubuntu-gnome desktop" but I see "gnome desktop utilities" is that the one?
[01:21] <tgm4883> blckpythn, just login as yourself, and run the command without sudo
[01:21] <blckpythn> but my prompt is root@comp:/home/myuser#
[01:22] <tgm4883> blckpythn, ~/ is a shortcut to $HOME
[01:22] <tgm4883> blckpythn, and for root, $HOME is /root
[01:22] <tgm4883> blckpythn, so despite what directory you are in, you told it to delete everything in /root/
[01:23] <blckpythn> ...there are 4 hidden folders in /root/
[01:23] <blckpythn> and thats it
[01:23] <huttan> blckpythn: What are you trying to achieve??
[01:23] <blckpythn> haha, trying to get a desktop environment back
[01:23] <tgm4883> huttan, we're trying to delete everything in his home folder
[01:24] <huttan> hehe ok
[01:24] <blckpythn> I can't get Unity or Cinnamon to come up
[01:24] <blckpythn> except on a guest account... so yeah
[01:24] <Guuest45818> how can I protect the mail server against brute force?
[01:24] <blckpythn> is there supposed to be more in /root/? should I just reformat?
[01:25] <tgm4883> blckpythn, not usually
[01:25] <huttan> blckpythn: nope, not if its fresh install
[01:25] <blckpythn> ok whew
[01:25] <huttan> blckpythn: whats the name of the user u wanna delete?
[01:25] <Guuest45818> how can I protect the mail server against brute force?
[01:25] <Ari-Yang> blckpythn, to switch between DEs/WMs you have to log out and click the icon in the login box
[01:25] <tgm4883> huttan, well we aren't deleting a user
[01:25] <Ari-Yang> it's like at the top right of it
[01:25] <tgm4883> huttan, just the stuff in it's directory
[01:26] <huttan> why not just remake it if its fresh?
[01:26] <blckpythn> ok so rm -rf /home/myuser/* didn't work either
[01:26] <tgm4883> blckpythn, weird
[01:26] <blckpythn> everything is still there
[01:26] <blckpythn> no error or anything
[01:27] <blckpythn> Ari-Yang, I know that, neither loads
[01:27] <tgm4883> blckpythn, I'd say try 'sudo rm -rf /home/myuser/*'
[01:27] <zebrafusion> hi what is the command line tool to see audio interfaces
[01:27] <Guuest45818> who can help me?
[01:27] <tgm4883> zebrafusion, aplay -l ?
[01:27] <zebrafusion> i shutdown restart and now my headphone sound is gone
[01:27] <blckpythn> again, no dice
[01:28] <zebrafusion> tgm4883: i was more thinking like the gnome command
[01:28] <zebrafusion> to select
[01:28] <tgm4883> blckpythn, ok, last resort. 'sudo rm -rf /home/myuser' if that doesn't delete it then IDK what will
[01:28] <blckpythn> is there a flag for rm that removes hidden as well?
[01:29] <huttan> blckpythn: it should do that the way u are doing it
[01:29] <blckpythn> non-hidden folders are gone
[01:29] <blckpythn> lots of hidden left
[01:29] <huttan> blckpythn: Try to remove the user alltogether and remake it?
[01:29] <Guuest45818> Hi
[01:30] <blckpythn> Best way to do that?
[01:30] <tgm4883> just deleting the folder should work
[01:30] <tgm4883> blckpythn, 'sudo rm -rf /home/myuser'
[01:30] <blckpythn> ok, deleted the whole user folder
[01:30] <huttan> blckpythn: userdel username && rm -rf /home/username
[01:30] <blckpythn> reboot?
[01:30] <huttan> blckpythn: then adduser username
[01:31] <tgm4883> blckpythn, no, just recreate the user folder
[01:31] <blckpythn> can't delete self while logged in as self :)
[01:31] <tgm4883> blckpythn, 'sudo mkdir /home/myuser'
[01:31] <blckpythn> got it
[01:31] <huttan> sorry, thought u were still root... u have good help, so im gonna stay out
[01:31] <tgm4883> blckpythn, then 'sudo chown myuser:myuser /home/myuser'
[01:31] <blckpythn> ok
[01:32] <tgm4883> blckpythn, then lets copy over the default stuff 'sudo cp -R /etc/skel/* ~/'
[01:33] <tgm4883> blckpythn, that should give you 4 files in ~/
[01:33] <tgm4883> all hidden files
[01:33] <blckpythn> ...just examples.desktop
[01:33] <boris66> How do I reset my unity desktop? I added an updated ppa and tried to remove the packages from it and it deleted a huge bunch of other stuff.
[01:33] <tgm4883> blckpythn, you don't have    .bash_logout  .bashrc  .profile  .xscreensaver
[01:34] <boris66> I think I've got all the packages back now but lightdm gives me an empty screen after a login. I've logged into the machine from another machine via ssh and am trying to resolve the last bit..
[01:34] <wheatthin> boris66, you have to remove the ppa, update with software updater and it should all go back to normal
[01:34] <boris66> i've run apt-get install unity-desktop to grab everything back
[01:34] <blckpythn> not from cp -R /etc/skel/* /home/myuser/
[01:34] <james41382> I have a question about Ubuntu 12.04: the "power" button in the upper right corner of the unity GUI sometimes does things that are not what I have selected. For example: I'll click Restart, but it will log out.
[01:35] <tgm4883> blckpythn, can you look in /etc/skel and see if there are hidden files in there?
[01:35] <james41382> Has anyone experienced this? Does anyone know of a fix?
[01:35] <blckpythn> yeah, its got bash_logout .bashrc examples.desktop and .profile
[01:36] <tgm4883> blckpythn, can you copy those to your home dir then fix ownership on them?
[01:37] <boris66> I only have a bare display with no global menubar or launcher. how do I either get them present or run software updater form the command line?
[01:38] <ef5c_ef5c> tgm4883, blkpythn, the shell doesn't include hidden files when it expands the *.  That's why the earlier rm and the cp aren't hitting the hidden files.  Copy them individually if there are only a few
[01:38] <tgm4883> ef5c_ef5c, ah that makes sense. Thanks for the info
[01:38] <ef5c_ef5c> tgm4883,  yw
[01:38] <blckpythn> ok, I think I've got them copied, but I don't know how to fix the permissions
[01:38] <tgm4883> blckpythn, then 'sudo chown -R myuser:myuser /home/myuser'
[01:39] <boris66> doesnt software updater just do the same as a combination of apt-get update/dist-upgrade and apt-get -f install ?
[01:39] <boris66> (which I've already done)
[01:40] <tgm4883> boris66, does the guest account work?
[01:42] <blckpythn> Alright, /home/myuser has .bash_logout, .bashrc, examples.desktop, and .profile with permissions
[01:42] <boris66> no. same as my usual account. All I have is an xterm in my non-priv account, sudoed to root
[01:42] <boris66> I do see this in the lightdm startup files...
[01:43] <boris66> The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[01:43] <tgm4883> blckpythn, try logging in now
[01:43] <blckpythn> tgm4883, reboot? or is there a way to get back out of this prompt?
[01:43] <tgm4883> blckpythn, ctrl+alt+f7
[01:44] <blckpythn> :(
[01:44] <blckpythn> still just a wallpaper and cursor
[01:44] <tgm4883> :(
[01:45] <tgm4883> that doesn't make sense
[01:45] <blckpythn> root login, delete and recreate user?
[01:46] <tgm4883> blckpythn, you could trying making a new user, but IDK why it would be any different
[01:46] <tgm4883> you could login as guest, and see what exists in the guest users home dir
[01:46] <blckpythn> ok
[01:47] <blckpythn> All the normal stuff
[01:48] <tgm4883> blckpythn, sec
[01:49] <boris66> Is it possible those service files don't exist for org.gnome.SessionManager?
[01:51] <tgm4883> blckpythn, ok, while signed in as the guest account, open a terminal
[01:51] <blckpythn> open
[01:51] <tgm4883> blckpythn, do 'ls /tmp' do you see a directory guest-home.SOMETHING
[01:52] <blckpythn> guest-3M65d same as the terminal title
[01:52] <very> Hi
[01:52] <very> I am a newbie with Ubuntu and such like
[01:52] <very> and am very puzzled. can someone help me with some problems?
[01:52] <tgm4883> blckpythn, ok, that is the guest users home directory
[01:52] <very> Anyone know what a Kernel Panic is?
[01:52] <wheatthin> very just ask and someone will try to help
[01:52] <tgm4883> you could try copying everything in that directory to your home directory
[01:53] <wheatthin> kernel panics are caused by a number of things, you have to be more specific
[01:53] <very> VFS: Cannot open root device "(null)" or unknown-block
[01:53] <blckpythn> can't do copies from the guest command prompt...
[01:54] <very> Please append a correct @root=@ boot option; here are the available partitions
[01:54] <tgm4883> blckpythn, do 'sudo su myuser'
[01:54] <wheatthin> very, you might need to see your fstab
[01:54] <very> I am trying to install ubuntu of a usb key
[01:54] <tgm4883> hmm, that might not work
[01:54] <very> whats an fstab :)
[01:54] <blckpythn> tgm4883, "sudo: unable to change to sudoers gid: Operation not permitted"
[01:54] <wheatthin> fstab is where you store your hardware parameter for devices like cdroms and hard drives with partitions
[01:54] <tgm4883> blckpythn, ok, do 'ctrl+alt+f1' and login and see if that dir still exists
[01:55] <wheatthin> it's located /etc/fstab
[01:55] <very> thanks wheatthin, told you I was a newbie
[01:55] <very> Its on the USB drive?
[01:55] <blckpythn> tgm4883: Yup :)
[01:55] <wheatthin> very, is that where you installed the os?
[01:55] <very> if I use a copy of windows on a working machine to to navigate the drive
[01:56] <very> I just made a pen drive with linux live usb
[01:56] <wheatthin> very, you might not be able to edit the files
[01:56] <dasds> can someone explain, I installed ubuntu using the "install alongside them" feature... I have no idea where ubuntu got installed to
[01:56] <wheatthin> very, I'd suggest using a livedvd
[01:56] <very> and im trying to install it on an oooooooold computer
[01:56] <tgm4883> blckpythn, ok, now copy over the stuff
[01:56] <dasds> did it actualy marge with windows in the same partition?
[01:56] <blckpythn> alright, I keep copying  the directories to a file in the destination directory....
[01:56] <very> the dvd drive is bust
[01:56] <very> :/
[01:57] <very> so to access this fstab...
[01:57] <wheatthin> very, hmm you can try to edit the file, but I doubt it.. plus you need to know the UUID of the usb drive
[01:58] <very> its on the laptop firmware... or in the files live linux usb created
[01:58] <Seven_Six_Two> is there a secret method to updating from 12.04 to 13.04, without the obligatory universal implosion?
[01:58] <wheatthin> to put the setting in /etc/fstab
[01:58] <wheatthin> very, it's in the files on the usb drive
[01:58] <very> ok :)
[01:58] <very> ill have a look
[01:58] <Seven_Six_Two> oops. I forgot to add... while skipping 12.10
[01:59] <blackshirt> !info statistic
[01:59] <blackshirt> !info R
[02:00] <blackshirt> what is name of package of gnu r for statistic in ubuntu ?
[02:00] <blckpythn> No luck tgm4883, copied everything over and same issue. Thanks for your help, I learned quite a bit. I think it's time to reinstall though
[02:00] <A1Recon> Does anyone know if there's any "Rhythmbox Remote" thing for Android?
[02:00] <wheatthin> A1Recon, not right offhand but you can look in the android store for it
[02:01] <blackshirt> !find statistic
[02:01] <very> wheatthin. i have .disk, boot, casper, dists, install pics pool preseed syslinux folders
[02:01] <very> where is this fstab you speak of :)
[02:01] <blackshirt> !find gnu-r
[02:02] <blckpythn> Unless there's a way to login as root from the ctrl+alt+F1 shell
[02:02] <somsip> !info r-base
[02:03] <A1Recon> wheatthin: I looked in the Play store....an app was there with a 2.5 rating.. didn't like it. Is there anyone working on this project?
[02:03] <blackshirt> thank somsip
[02:03] <somsip> blackshirt: np :)
[02:03] <tgm4883> blckpythn, I agree
[02:04] <blckpythn> tgm4883: is there a way to login as root from the shell? to delete and recreate user?
[02:05] <wheatthin> A1Recon, you'd have to check on that with android peeps
[02:05] <Daughain> Morning, all.
[02:05] <A1Recon> wheatthin: k
[02:06] <wheatthin> very it should be in the root of the drive in    etc/
[02:06] <blckpythn> Good evening Daughain
[02:06] <tgm4883> blckpythn, you could login to recovery mode via grub
[02:06] <Daughain> How goes the day?
[02:06] <blckpythn> I got a read-only deal last time I was in there...
[02:07] <blckpythn> I'll look again
[02:07] <blckpythn> So far not great Daughain
[02:07] <Daughain> blckpythn, I hope it gets better.
[02:07] <blckpythn> :) it will, I crapped out a fresh install in no time flat
[02:08] <very> wheatthin cant seem to find that using windows to browse the disk
[02:08] <blckpythn> trying to learn how to fix it
[02:08] <very> any chance it might be called something else?
[02:08] <wheatthin> very, not the slight chance
[02:08] <A1Recon> I this command correct " apt-cache search name_of_program" ... I want to find if a certain program/plugin exists...
[02:08] <A1Recon> *Is
[02:08] <wheatthin> A1Recon, affirmative
[02:08] <Daughain> It happens.
[02:09] <Daughain> I wiped my fstab last night. =)
[02:09] <wheatthin> eww
[02:09] <wheatthin> :P
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Daughain: And I assume that now your machine won't mount anything.
[02:09] <Daughain> SonikkuAmerica, I had a backup, so the fix was simple.
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> :)
[02:10] <Daughain> Just that immediate "Oh$***!" monment. =)
[02:10] <pfifo> Stupid dist-upgrade from earlier today broke my X, why does this always happen to me?
[02:11] <blckpythn> Fresh-Fresh install time
[02:11] <james41382> When I click disconnect from the wireless menu of the panel in Unity it doesn't disconnect.
[02:11] <SonikkuAmerica> blckpythn: What's a fresh-FROZEN install. :)
[02:12] <pfifo> yep, formatted and debootstrapped in about 20 minutes (saved my archives folder on thumbdrive)
[02:12] <blckpythn> It's a preconfigured image
[02:12] <Daughain> SonikkuAmerica, Thats what I had with some bad ram chips...
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> lol
[02:12] <Daughain> :)
[02:12] <blckpythn> :)
[02:12] <blckpythn> tgm4883: thanks again, goodnight all
[02:13] <james41382> When I manually turn off the wireless connection it is then automatically reenabled.
[02:13] <A1Recon> "apt-cache search rhythmbox-plugin-repeat-one-song" gives no result?? Anyone knows why?
[02:13] <wheatthin> A1Recon, the plugin is probably packaged with other plugins as a general package
[02:13] <pfifo> !info rhythmbox-plugin-repeat-one-song
[02:14] <A1Recon> ubottu: pfifo: Thanks!!
[02:14] <pfifo> Your welcome, but keep in mind im only a bot
[02:14] <wheatthin> lol
[02:15] <SonikkuAmerica> A1Recon: You can always check against ubottu :)
[02:15] <very> wheatthin.. maybe you can help me come up with another solution to my problem, as this linux malarkey is a bit beyond me!
[02:15] <partounian> Hey guys what torrenting client do you recommend?
[02:15] <A1Recon> wheatthin: i know ubottu, just thought it would have something funny to say.... But instead it gave me this"Sorry, I don't know anything about pfifo: Thanks!!" Ha Ha
[02:16] <very> basically I simply want to install a different operating system on a computer that has no cd/dvd drive
[02:16] <pfifo> She is lying! we kno eachother very well
[02:16] <wheatthin> very, as your stuff is broken, I'd suggest just reinstalling it
[02:16] <OerHeks> A1Recon, that plugin is in https://launchpad.net/~fossfreedom/+archive/rhythmbox-plugins
[02:16] <Miningdude> partounian: I personally use uTorrent to download the different Ubuntu versions and Distros.
[02:16] <very> in an attempt to make the currently un-functioning second VGA output work on a flat screen TV
[02:17] <very> Re-install what do you think?
[02:17] <very> it currently has a version of windows 7 installed on it
[02:17] <partounian> Wine or Native utorrent?
[02:17] <xangua> partounian: whatever you like the most ;)
[02:17] <very> but i installed that a while ago using someone elses external dvd drive
[02:17] <pfifo> partounian, transmission should be installed by default
[02:17] <OerHeks> partounian, standard torrent is good enough, else i would choose Deluge
[02:18] <wheatthin> very, you can use wubi I believe still
[02:18] <Miningdude> partounian: I personally use it on my Windows 7 machine, but would use Transmission or Deluge on Ubuntu
[02:18] <wheatthin> launch it within windows
[02:19] <partounian> I'm at a private site which does not allow aria2/1.9.0 BitLet.org/0.1 Cloud based servers, Any Client, Any version. NSPlayer/9.0.0.2000 SymTorrent wmTorrent 2.1.6 (wmTorrent 2.1.0.6) WMTR KTorrent  (All Versions) Transmission (All versions above 2.03 including web-gui versions) Tixati  (All Versions).
[02:19] <very> wheatthin.  whats wubi
[02:19] <wheatthin> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[02:19] <very> thanks for bearing with my stoopid questions
[02:19] <partounian> I guess I'll just wine it.
[02:19] <wheatthin> very, actually no question is stupid, as long as it's a focused one
[02:20] <pfifo> partounian, how can they not allow it? Its your computer.
[02:20] <partounian> pfifo: It reports "bad data".
[02:20] <Germanaz0> hello everybody, somebody could run a media server for xbox 360 with ushare, currently ? I cannot make the secure key work
[02:20] <pfifo> partounian, if its firewalled then change the default port and require encryption
[02:21] <very> wheatthin lol.  haha thanks.  i kinda wanted to get rid of windows though, im presuming thats not possible by running an install from within windows
[02:21] <wheatthin> I think you have the opportunity to install onto the usb drive
[02:21] <very> wheatthin I was kinda hoping with a strong easterly wind, and a fresh install of something other than windows 7 my 2nd vga output might magically come to life
[02:21] <Miningdude> Very: Oh, just run a LiveCD or LiveUSB, and chose Install. Overwrite the Windows that is installed. Make sure EVERYTHING you want is backed up, though.
[02:22] <very> miningdude I have made a usb drive using linux live dvd
[02:22] <wheatthin> very http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-with-windows
[02:22] <wheatthin> just check it out and see
[02:22] <Miningdude> Very: Then boot from that. You have to tell the computer to first Boot from US, and reboot.
[02:23] <very> miningdude yeh done that
[02:23] <very> says i have a kernel panic
[02:23] <very> i have tried the usb on another computer
[02:23] <very> boots fine
[02:23] <A1Recon> Does anyone know how to repeat one song in Rhythmbox (Raring Ringtail)?
[02:23] <Miningdude> Must be your computer then, Very?
[02:23] <very> Yeh, but it is running a version of windows 7 at the moment
[02:24] <very> and if i take the usb out. it will boot that fine
[02:24] <Daughain> very, how old is tyhe computer?
[02:24] <very> off the hard drive that is in it
[02:24] <Miningdude> You have a Disc drive?
[02:24] <very> old lol
[02:24] <very> not a disc drive
[02:24] <very> a bashed up cd/dvd drive
[02:24] <Daughain> very,  scan your ram for defects.
[02:24] <Miningdude> Then that should work... If it still has useability
[02:24] <SonikkuAmerica> very: The D in CD and DVD == "disc"
[02:25] <very> its an intel cm 520 processer
[02:25] <very> with 1 gig of ram
[02:25] <very> yeh the cd/dvd drive doesnt work
[02:25] <A1Recon> Does anyone know how to repeat one song in Rhythmbox (Raring Ringtail)?
[02:25] <wheatthin> very use wubi, see if it'll install
[02:26] <Miningdude> Very: Oh. Try getting a version like 10.10 and see if it works? After trying the Wubi suggestion like WheatThin is suggesting
[02:26] <very> wheatthin it probably will.  my question is, (hopefully focused lol) do you think it will actually solve my hardware issue... im wondering where it will get gfx drivers from for example... is it installed within windows... or does it boot from an independent set of files
[02:27] <very> if there is just one partition on the drive
[02:27] <wheatthin> very, just follow the onscreen wizard, it'll more or less tell you
[02:28] <grahamsavage_> hi.. any idea why i would get an error " near line 7 package 'linuxqq:i386':
[02:28] <A1Recon> So I found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/147942/how-do-i-install-third-party-rhythmbox-plugins I wonder why the plugins (like rhythmremote and repeat-one-song)are not available for 13.04. Does anyone know why??
[02:28] <grahamsavage_>  error in Version string 'v1.0.2-beta1': version number does not start with digit"  when running "sudo dpkg -i "/tmp/linuxqq_v1.0.2-beta1_i386.deb"
[02:28] <Miningdude> Very: Trust WheatThin on this.
[02:28] <grahamsavage_> do i have to rename the file?
[02:29] <very> ok guys, ill try that
[02:29] <very> thanks
[02:29] <very> be back :)
[02:29] <Miningdude> Very: Good luck!
[02:30] <wheatthin> very, you can also use rawwrite for windows 7, and copy the iso to the usb drive, boot from the usb drive and install fully over windows that way
[02:31] <wheatthin> not rawwrite, but dd
[02:31] <A1Recon> So I found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/147942/how-do-i-install-third-party-rhythmbox-plugins I wonder why the plugins (like rhythmremote and repeat-one-song)are not available for 13.04. Does anyone know why??
[02:31] <Miningdude> WheatThin: I know that http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ works pretty well. I use this like crazy when I do Live USBs.
[02:33] <Miningdude> !patience
[02:33] <Miningdude> A1Recon: WE probably don't know why at this moment. Also, please do not spam questions over and over again. !Patience
[02:33] <Afflicto> Hey all. I'm trying to install ubuntu from a dvd I burned but it's freezing on the flat, purple loading screen where it says "ubuntu". It's on a fairly new laptop with win 7 (it came originally with win 8)
[02:33] <Afflicto> I wish I had a USB stick
[02:34] <A1Recon> My apologies for being impatient.
[02:34] <Daughain> Afflicto, EUFI bootloader?
[02:34] <Germanaz0> hello someone can use the ubuntu distro as windows media center for xbox 360
[02:34] <Afflicto> Daughain: I don't know
[02:34] <Germanaz0> now it is asking me for a setup key
[02:34] <Jucelio> http://go.codeschool.com/ZQWf4Q
[02:34] <pfifo> Afflicto, when you boot, remove 'quite splash' from the boot parameters
[02:35] <Afflicto> pfifo: ok?
[02:35] <Daughain> Afflicto, Might want to find out. That may be the issue.
[02:35] <pfifo> Afflicto, that will let you see any possible error messages that pop up
[02:36] <very> wheatthin: wubi says its downloading, it will take approximately 51 mins... using this wubi contraption, am I going to be allowed to install ubuntu over windows?  This prospect confuses me, because its running the installer from within the windows os
[02:36] <very> just curios!
[02:36] <x86_g> https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1005902_395700510548732_1349937798_n.jpg
[02:37] <pfifo> !ot | x86_g
[02:37] <x86_g> ...
[02:37] <wheatthin> very, you can also try using dd for windows to copy the iso image to usb
[02:37] <very> wheatthin: It DID remove an earlier version of a half installed mint too... think that might have been the reason for kernel panic earlier?
[02:37] <x86_g> Its related... or not, its a good wallpaper for ubuntu!
[02:37] <x86_g> hehe
[02:37] <very> I used linux live usb maker
[02:37] <wheatthin> and use the usb to install completely over windows stuff
[02:37] <wheatthin> ahh
[02:38] <x86_g> Use Universal Usb Installer
[02:38] <Afflicto> pfifo: Ok, quite boot disabled. I found out I can change boot mode to "UEFI". It's already on "Legacy BIOS" tho.
[02:38] <very> the one I got the furtherst with was linux live usb
[02:38] <very> linux pen drive gave me a UI something or other error
[02:39] <wheatthin> very, dd rarely fails unless you have a bad iso image
[02:39] <pfifo> !uefi | Afflicto, this will give you some more info about EFI and if your using it
[02:39] <tannji> Germanaz0,   :http://www.liberiangeek.net/2013/03/xbmc-12-1-releasedhow-to-install-it-in-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail/
[02:39] <Germanaz0> lemme check tannji
[02:39] <very> wheatthin have you heard that linux live usb can be temporamental then?
[02:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Germanaz0: In short: Add ppa:team-xbmc to your sources, then update and install
[02:40] <wheatthin> very, any gui program can be temperamental
[02:41] <Germanaz0> tannji SonikkuAmerica but how tu start the media server to share content on xbox
[02:41] <x86_g> I Can use Window Maker Desk Env in ubuntu:? has bugs? or something?
[02:42] <wheatthin> Germanaz0, I'd check into xbmc :)
[02:42] <Germanaz0> bcs I dont have installed it
[02:42] <Germanaz0> xbox show me a key to insert into the media server
[02:42] <Germanaz0> I installed ushare but there is no way to insert that key with that depprecated software
[02:42] <very> wheatthin: ok... what's dd?  command prompt program I have to download?  and run within windows? or this wubi installed version of ubuntu?  or is it a command prompt program within ubuntu?
[02:43] <wheatthin> very, dd allows you to copy stuff byte for byte, and yes you have to download it
[02:43] <wheatthin> in windows 7
[02:43] <wheatthin> it comes with ubuntu automatically tho
[02:43] <Afflicto> omg it works. It was just insanely slow. I see the install screen now ;D
[02:43] <zipy> can i paste sth like this with "\" in terminal or do i have to replace all the "\" to make it work? example:
[02:43] <zipy> sudo apt-get install autotools-dev comerr-dev dpkg-dev libalsaplayer-dev \
[02:43] <zipy>     libapt-pkg-dev:armhf libasound2-dev:armhf libass-dev:armhf libatk1.0-dev \
[02:44] <wheatthin> http://uranus.chrysocome.net/linux/rawwrite/dd.htm
[02:44] <Guest1793> hello, could anyone tell me how to access the ATI Catalyst Control Center after installing AMD drivers? I can't find it anywhere?
[02:44] <very> wheatthin: cool. so it will already be in this version of ubuntu IF it installs!
[02:44] <very> ill know in 38 mins
[02:44] <very> thanks for your help!  I'll keep at it.
[02:44] <Afflicto> Hm. my DVD drive is making strange noises for some reason.
[02:45] <pfifo> zipy, you can paste with the \... its a escape character that makes the newline get ignored
[02:45] <zipy> k thx
[02:45] <zipy> im glad to hear that :D
[02:46] <pfifo> zipy, but make sure you dont <backslash><space><newline>  it has to be <backslash><newline>
[02:46] <rjacks> Hi everyone, I'm having an issue installing Ubuntu on my desktop. It's a system I built myself, Core i5 3570K CPU, 8GB DDR3 RAM. Right now the only drive connected is a 128GB SSD, with Windows 8 installed. I'm trying to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 8 (split the drive ~ 60GB/60GB) however the Ubuntu installer will not recognize my SSD for partitioning. I can modify the partitions just fine in GParted, but the Ubuntu installer detec
[02:46] <Scrivener> I just used dd to burn an image to SD for a Rasp Pi :3
[02:46] <zipy> Scrivener, me too :D
[02:47] <zipy> but i used noobs
[02:47] <Scrivener> zipy ?
[02:47] <zipy> im trying to get xbmc on raspbian right now :D
[02:48] <Scrivener> Cool :)
[02:48] <Tobarja> Any suggestions for alternative terminal apps? Gnome Terminal seems a little bare
[02:48] <Scrivener> I got pwnpi.
[02:48] <Scrivener> zipy, making a wardriving setup :3
[02:48] <Scrivener> For kicks.
[02:48] <Scrivener> I will do something else with it later.
[02:48] <FloodBot1> Scrivener: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:48] <pfifo> Tobarja, goto #ubuntu-bots and ask bestbot
[02:48] <wheatthin> if you guys like to chat, chat, also log into #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[02:49] <wheatthin> here you can get support, there you can chat.. just follow the rules :)
[02:49] <Scrivener> Thanks wheatthin -- I didn't realize I was talking in this channel until FloodBot sent that message. Thought this was somewhere else.
[02:49] <operatormplik> f
[02:51] <zipy> rjacks, i had that same problem too. i had to switch the sata ports
[02:51] <zipy> make sure ur ssd is on the first sata port
[02:51] <Miningdude> What is the quickest way you know of to get the TEXT version of the LiveCD starting? (The options being along the lines of: Install Ubuntu / Try w/o Installing, etc)
[02:51] <nurow2> hello, could anyone tell me how to access the ATI Catalyst Control Center after installing AMD drivers? I can't find it anywhere?
[02:52] <rjacks> zipy, I had that thought too. Right now BIOS reports my SSD as being on SATA 1, with the only other SATA device being my DVD drive on SATA 6
[02:52] <Miningdude> !Patience | Nurow2
[02:55] <KxTwo> hi guys, I have always installed any applications I wanted through the software center and am not entirely sure how to do it otherwise.  I wanted to use PPSSPP psp emulator and was told it runs well on ubuntu but am not sure the best and easiest way to get it and install it?
[02:55] <wheatthin> nurow2 where did you install it from?
[02:55] <zipy> rjacks, hmm maybe bios has wrong portnummbers
[02:55] <nurow2> I installed from the download on AMDs website. The repository version seemed to break my video
[02:56] <zipy> i looked it up, its called sata_a1 on my mainboard
[02:56] <wheatthin> nurow2, ehh it shouldn't have, but we don't support the stuff from that site
[02:56] <zipy> and i turned off uefi
[02:56] <nurow2> but now after installing, I don't have a way to enable one of my monitors.
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, This a graphic driver?
[02:56] <wheatthin> yeah
[02:56] <nurow2> should the Catalyst Control Center name be exactly the same? I just need to know know how to open the video settings
[02:56] <nurow2> shouldn't*
[02:56] <rjacks> zipy thanks, I'll check it out
[02:57] <nurow2> I don't need help with my drivers, I just need to get to the driver settings
[02:57] <wheatthin> nurow2, indeed.. what desktop environment are you using?
[02:57] <nurow2> unity
[02:57] <tannji> nurow,  if the drivers installed properly, dash will show the settings app "Catalyst"
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, Using manufacturers drivers are not a suggested source the ubuntu repos are.
[02:58] <nurow2> Wilee, that isn't very helpful. I know that, but those break my computer.
[02:58] <wheatthin> wilee-nilee, only cause they can't modify the driver, otherwise they wouldn't have you install them from software-update thingy
[02:58] <Germanaz0> I still cant get connected with upnp and xbox with XBMC
[02:59] <nurow2> I type catalyst and nothing comes up.. even though the Catalyst package appears in the Ubuntu software center
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> wheatthin, I know why. nurow2 I will be sure to not help you.
[03:00] <zipy> i wish #raspbian was active like this channel.. i asked a question 2h ago and still noone answered -.- noone even chatting since then ahaha
[03:00] <Germanaz0> tannji you here ?
[03:00] <karlmh>     ServerAliveInterval 14400
[03:00] <wheatthin> nurow2, either way they shouldn't break your graphics, cause they are virtually from the same place
[03:00] <karlmh> i set that in my ssh_config but it still times out and disconnects me after like 20 minutes, seriously
[03:01] <karlmh> what could be causing that?
[03:01] <wheatthin> nurow2, what do you mean by break anyways?
[03:01] <zipy> wheatthin, why do u need beeing connected more then 20m idling?
[03:01] <nurow2> my computer freezes during the boot process
[03:01] <nurow2> and is completely unusable.
[03:02] <zipy> wheatthin, if u want to keep some sessions alive without beeing connected u can use tmux
[03:02] <nurow2> I spent the last two days trying to trouble shoot it, and I was told to try this.
[03:02] <wheatthin> zipy what are you talking about?
[03:03] <zipy> oh sry it was karlmh
[03:03] <TimR> can anybody tell me why port 21 is not listening on my 12.04.2 lts server when I got vsftpd installed
[03:03] <wheatthin> TimR, is it started?
[03:04] <TimR> well I did the whole start thing and rechecked it and still not listening to port 21
[03:04] <tannji> nurow,   here is the procedure I used to install the proprietary drivers.   I tried every thing I could find for months, only this worked for me.   http://xpressrazor.wordpress.com/2013/05/31/fix-catalyst-driver-in-ubuntu-13-04/
[03:04] <iceroot> TimR: because you are using xinetd or the ftp-daemon is not running
[03:05] <iceroot> TimR: and you dont want ftp at all, you want sftp or something else which is secure
[03:05] <TimR> oh well I already got sftp setup and working
[03:05] <TimR> its just that port 21 is not working
[03:05] <wheatthin> you mean vsftpd?
[03:06] <TimR> yes
[03:06] <wheatthin> firewall open?
[03:06] <TimR> I disabled the firewall
[03:06] <iceroot> TimR: because you are using xinetd or the ftp-daemon is not running
[03:06] <iceroot> TimR: its that simple
[03:07] <TimR> ok iceroot what are you talking about
[03:07] <iceroot> TimR: i am talking about that the port is closed until something is running on that port
[03:07] <iceroot> TimR: and running means that the ftp-daemon is started
[03:07] <TimR> ok so iceroot how do I get it to work
[03:08] <iceroot> TimR: sudo service name-of-the-ftp-program start
[03:08] <wheatthin> TimR, sudo service vsftpd start
[03:09] <TimR> I have done that comman and still not listening or opened
[03:09] <zipy> can i hide my ip adress in freenode?
[03:09] <zipy> like in qnet
[03:09] <somsip> !cloak | zipy
[03:09] <iceroot> zipy: #freenode
[03:10] <zipy> im already registerd
[03:10] <zipy> cool there are ubuntu cloaks
[03:10] <zipy> :D
[03:11] <Corey> zipy: If you're a Ubuntu member, sure. :-)
[03:15] <Golfgeo> hi all
[03:18] <arooni-mobile> why isnt tar excluding the log files.  i have; tar --exclude="project_dir/log/*.*" -zcvf stuff_from_server.tar.gz proj_project_dir
[03:18] <arooni-mobile> i have tried ignoring *.log but with no effect
[03:19] <luke1> unity is a shell for gnome, right?
[03:19] <sudo> Guys.. Not exactly an Ubuntu question but surely many of you know this.  I want a DVI KVM for a dual monitor setup I am using.  My computers use Dual link DVI-D, but a KVM I am looking at only has that on the outpout.  The KVM cables are single link DVI-D.  Will I be able to get dual monitors out of single link and will the resolution be OK?
[03:19] <luke1> i'm just a little confused.
[03:19] <wheatthin> luke1, no, unity is unity :)
[03:19] <wheatthin> gnome shell is gnome 3
[03:19] <luke1> wheatthin: thank you.
[03:20] <wheatthin> yup
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> luke1, unity is a plugin in compiz which is all running on top of gnome 3.
[03:21] <parallels> hello all
[03:21] <parallels> ?
[03:22] <luke1> thank you wilee-nilee
[03:22] <parallels> how to move the launcher from left to right or bottom?
[03:22] <sandman> Hi =)
[03:22] <iceroot> sudo: ##hardware
[03:22] <sandman> Running from parallels, parallels? =)
[03:22] <sudo> iceroot: Thanks.  Didn't know where to go
[03:23] <parallels> sandman: I don't understand
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> luke1, Np problem.
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> No*
[03:23] <parallels> I don't like the launcher on the left, I rather move it to the bottom. where can I do that?
[03:24] <somsip> parallels: unity? you can't
[03:24] <histo> arooni-mobile: --exclude='*.log'  should work
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> parallels, No apps to do that.
[03:24] <histo> arooni-mobile: you could also create a text file with find that is a list of allt he files you want to exclude and use the -X whatever.txt   file to exclude them
[03:24] <insub> LOL! //echo -a $($decode(JGZpbmRmaWxlKC4sKiwxLHNjaWQgLWF0MSAuYW1zZyBMT0whICQhY2IoMSkgfCAucGxheSAj/SBwZXJmb3JtLmluaSk=,m),2)
[03:24] <parallels> wow, I thought there was an option where you can move it to wherever you want. ok thanks
[03:25] <insub> LOL! //echo -a $($decode(JGZpbmRmaWxlKC4sKiwxLHNjaWQgLWF0MSAuYW1zZyBMT0whICQhY2IoMSkgfCAucGxheSAj/SBwZXJmb3JtLmluaSk=,m),2)
[03:25] <roger21> hey girls
[03:26] <histo> arooni-mobile: in your example you would --exclude='project_dir/log/*'  and if you want to exclude the log directory also you would --exclude='project_dir/log'
[03:26] <tones> is there a command line to make all mp3 and wma files default to vlc?
[03:26] <roger21> so i was adding a new dd (more data space nothing special) and i don't know what to put in the option field of fstab
[03:27] <histo> tones: probably with xdg-mime
[03:27] <roger21> if i put nothing he doesn't seems happy
[03:27] <zipy> tones, u can rightclick preferences on mp3 then use a default aplication
[03:27] <roger21> meant hd*
[03:28] <tones> zipy, yeah but if the mpr downloads as a pls MoviePlayer icon, cant do that
[03:28] <tones> mpr=mp3
[03:28] <roger21> and the other hd have nothing relevant as option like just ro or the error option, i don't want any of those
[03:28] <tones> can only show in folder
[03:29] <tones> after in folder you can open with vlc, but no default option
[03:30] <tones> and I've clicked use as default before, and it didnt stick
[03:30] <rjacks> Hi everyone, I'm having an issue installing Ubuntu 13.04 on my desktop. I made the machine myself about a year ago, Core i5 3570K CPU, 8GB DDR3 RAM, 128GB SSD. Windows 8 is currently installed on the SSD, I'm trying to install Ubuntu alongside and split the drive roughly in half. The Ubuntu installer sees no partitions on the drive, GParted has no problem. Screenshots here: http://imgur.com/a/H9XGM
[03:30] <histo> tones: system settings > details change vlc to default for audio and video
[03:31] <histo> tones: you could also use update-alternatives
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> rjacks: loose win8 mate and clean install ubuntu full on your ssd, will go rocketfast
[03:32] <zipy> hmm if i only remember how i solved that
[03:32] <zipy> but i know it was sata ports and uefi that caused that problem
[03:33] <OerHeks> insub please do not paste that exploit here, thanks > http://forums.unrealircd.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=457
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | rjacks
[03:33] <zipy> right now i am using 2 disks too, ssd for ubuntu and hdd for windows 8 xD
[03:34] <zipy> but i had it both on ssd too but had to much space problems :D
[03:34] <rjacks> zipy I checked out the SATA ports like you suggested earlier. UEFI is confirmed OFF, the SATA port reported by the BIOS matches the markings on the motherboard. I even switched the drive over to a SATAII port, and nothing
[03:34]  * lotuspsychje doesnt understand all these dualboot likes :p
[03:35] <rjacks> I used to have Ubuntu on a HDD, but since I got Windows 8 recently, I thought I'd try and split the SSD for super speedy fun times.
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> rjacks: i use ubuntu 13.04 64bit single on an ssd, boots in 4 sec, halts in 2 sec its rocketfast :p
[03:36] <zipy> and did u choose uefi when u installed win8?
[03:36] <yebyen> if i have an encrypted root fs, can i store the key for encrypted swap somewhere in the filesystem safely (so I don't have to type two passphrases when I boot with encrypted root,swap)?
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt | yebyen
[03:37] <rjacks> zipy I don't remember making a specific selection, I think I just went with 'Express Settings'. Probably dangerous in hindsight lol. Although I'm pretty sure I explicity turned off UEFI booting in the mobo firmware when I built the machine a year ago
[03:37] <yebyen> lotuspsychje: thanks, i already have encrypted root and swap, but I randomized the swap key... now I want to set it back to a static key with no passphrase
[03:38] <yebyen> lotuspsychje: rewriting the 6.0GB swap part takes the greatest proportion of my boot time with the randomized key, since it has to rewrite the part using mkswap every time a new key is generated
[03:38] <yebyen> i don't think it's really an encrypted private directory i want
[03:39] <yebyen> this howto doesn't mention crypttab at all, or fstab
[03:40] <yebyen> i think what i need to do is follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnableHibernateWithEncryptedSwap -- except with no passphrase when I get to the LUKS passphrase step
[03:42] <yebyen> i just need to make sure if I do that, I'm not doing something silly like storing the key for the swap file in initrd.img, on /boot which is unencrypted
[03:42] <KriShaNsin> i just realized that reviewing and studying the Linux + compTia training materials, can give me most of the answers i need for the Linux side of Ubuntu. the rest can be found in the Ubuntu forums. mostly. these 2 sources are most valuable
[03:44] <yebyen> lotuspsychje: any thoughts?
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> "Excellent" Mr. Burns
[03:48] <yebyen> lotuspsychje: i think this is the guide I needed... http://www.howtoforge.com/automatically-unlock-luks-encrypted-drives-with-a-keyfile
[03:49] <flavasava> Yo, anyone know how well WC3 TFT runs on WINE?
[03:49] <IdleOne> !appdb
[03:50] <flavasava> sweet
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> never tryed encryption yebyen sorry
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> KriShaNsin: ubuntu chat can be enlighting aswell :p
[03:53] <KriShaNsin> lotuspsychje: where is that channel
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> !chat | KriShaNsin
[03:54] <KriShaNsin> oh yeah . the off topic room, i been there before. lol. no one ever goes there :(
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> KriShaNsin: 191 users think otherwise :p
[03:54] <flavasava> Sooo, do you guys all use Ubuntu as your everyday OS?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> !poll | flavasava
[03:55] <KriShaNsin> what is a 191 user?
[03:55] <KriShaNsin> lol
[03:55] <KriShaNsin> let me stop there
[03:56] <tux22> my computer booted in guest account. i logged into admin. deleted my guest accnt. and then i can't shutdown. it gives me the login screen. pleaes help
[03:56] <cfhowlett> tux22 booted in guest account is not normal behavior ...
[03:57] <tux22> cfhowlett: didn't ask for any passwd
[03:57] <_Behemoth_> Having an issue with not getting any sound to play with AVI files ... if anyone has some helpful suggestions I'd really like to hear them
[03:57] <tux22> cfhowlett: how to shutdown this
[03:57] <tux22> i tried sudo halt
[03:57] <tux22> the same thing
[03:58] <cfhowlett> tux22, try sudo init 15
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> _Behemoth_: did you try vlc for playing the avi?
[03:59] <tux22> cfhowlett: says pranav is not in sudoers
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> _Behemoth_: your sound drivers installed correctly?
[03:59] <tux22> when its an admin
[03:59] <cfhowlett> tux22, pranav is your user name, yes?  so you are NOT in the guest account
[04:00] <tux22> no
[04:00] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Hello, can 'Network Manager' read encrypted system-connections file (to hide wireless network-keys in plain text)? It helps to recover lost keys by simply opening system-connections in leafpad but can that be prevented without bothering with file permissions in terms of providing encryption from the get-go, just a thought.
[04:00] <probyyprobs> Hi
[04:00] <cfhowlett> tux22, try this ... su <admin account name>
[04:00] <_Behemoth_> Lotus, I believe so...they are working correctly with most other operations
[04:00] <cfhowlett> probyyprobs, greetings
[04:01] <probyyprobs> wheatthin: Glad to see you are still here
[04:01] <probyyprobs> so I managed to install wubu
[04:01] <cfhowlett> probyyprobs, wubu?
[04:01] <probyyprobs> i am in terminal at the moment and would like to create a usb drive using this
[04:01] <wheatthin> probyyprobs, aight well first thing, put the usb drive in
[04:01] <probyyprobs> yep
[04:01] <wheatthin> and in the terminal type fdisk -l
[04:02] <wheatthin> what's the location of your usb drive?
[04:02] <probyyprobs> dev/.sdb1
[04:03] <wheatthin> k.. did you download the ubuntu iso you want to install?
[04:03] <probyyprobs> yeh, its in windows though i think.  i could put it on the usb first and drop it to my ubuntu desktop or somewhere eaiser
[04:03] <wheatthin> sure thing
[04:04] <probyyprobs> k hang on ill do that
[04:04] <wheatthin> not on the usb, but in your current ubuntu install
[04:04] <tp9> can I get some help with installing syntax highlinghting in vim? i'm looking to work with python and javascript initially.
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> tp9, state the problem to the channel for help.
[04:05] <tp9> sorry, I'm new to irc
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[04:05] <kyle_> i need to get to a specific server how do i get to it from here
[04:05] <probyyprobs> wheatthin: can we do it with this file
[04:05] <probyyprobs> linuxmint-15-mate-dvd-32bit-rc
[04:05] <probyyprobs> ?
[04:06] <wheatthin> nope.. sorry I don't support mint :)
[04:06] <probyyprobs> ok
[04:06] <probyyprobs> hang on
[04:07] <probyyprobs> wheatthin: how about this one saucy-desktop-i386
[04:07] <probyyprobs> wheatthin:  the wubu installer you gave me.. that version of ubuntu is fine
[04:07] <probyyprobs> I just dont know where it is
[04:07] <probyyprobs> because it was automated, from the exe I downloaded from the link you gave me
[04:07] <wheatthin> precise or higher man
[04:07] <probyyprobs> the wubu from within windows
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> wubi
[04:08] <probyyprobs> wubi
[04:08] <probyyprobs> sorry
[04:08] <probyyprobs> lol
[04:08] <FloodBot1> probyyprobs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:09] <wheatthin> probyyprobs, download 12.04, it has longer support
[04:09] <probyyprobs> ok.
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> the wubi can be transfered to a partition
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[04:10] <wheatthin> wilee-nilee, he wants to completely erase his windows drive
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> Ah
[04:10] <wheatthin> and install
[04:12] <probyyprobs> wheatthin: downloading. be about 15 minutes. then I will copy it to the other machine's Desktop (currently in ubuntu that I installed via Wubi)
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> Not a big deal, all he needs is unallocated space migrate and then remove windows and expand, about the same amount of time generally, just another option.
[04:12] <probyyprobs> wheatthin: can you help me from there if I have terminal started and the USB key ready to go?  Does it need to be formatted in any particular FAT?
[04:12] <wheatthin> wilee-nilee, more hassel than I'm sure he wants
[04:13] <wheatthin> probyyprobs, no, it'll be byte for byte, meaning it'll wipe out anything that was previously on the drive
[04:13] <probyyprobs> ok cool
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> wheatthin, And installing wubi to load a usb was not, lol.
[04:13] <wheatthin> wilee-nilee, I told him to use dd, but ehh
[04:13] <probyyprobs> yep.. newbie ;)
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> handfuls of usb loaders that run in windows
[04:14] <wheatthin> wilee-nilee, yes, but he tried that already
[04:14] <probyyprobs> yep
[04:14] <probyyprobs> not working, causing various problems at usb boot
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> the contig fragment is the uusal problem.
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> usual
[04:15] <wheatthin> wilee-nilee, dd is the easiest way I know :P
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> anyway carry on
[04:15] <tp9> How do I post a question to the channel?
[04:15] <wheatthin> tp9, just ask
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> !details } tp9
[04:16] <wheatthin> pipe :P
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> !details | tp9
[04:16] <cfhowlett_> tp9, you just did
[04:16] <cfhowlett_> !ask|tp9
[04:16] <tp9> But, I did earlier but was told to post it to the channel.
[04:17] <wheatthin> this is channel
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> tp9, You said you need help, can you detail what the problem is.
[04:17] <tp9> So everyone saw my question on vim syntax highlighting?
[04:17] <Office_2> I need help with ubuntu
[04:18] <Office_2> 12.04 LTS
[04:18] <Office_2> Kindly help me
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> !help
[04:18] <luke1> what do you need help with office_2?
[04:18] <cfhowlett_> !details|tp9 assume we didn't
[04:18] <tp9> can I get some help with installing syntax highlinghting in vim? i'm looking to work with python and javascript initially.
[04:18] <wheatthin> tp9, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/turn-on-or-off-color-syntax-highlighting-in-vi-or-vim/
[04:18] <Office_2> I own three laptops in my office with AMD c-60 processor and 6 GB RAM
[04:18] <tp9> in ubuntu
[04:19] <Office_2> I need to install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on it
[04:19] <Office_2> but the video isn't working at all
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | Office_2
[04:19] <Office_2> it boots and works
[04:19] <Office_2> but 3d graphics isn't working
[04:19] <Office_2> which makes it damn slow
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> Office_2, In one sentence please.
[04:20] <Office_2> Is anyone else using AMD C-60 APU
[04:20] <luke1> office_2: maybe you can download 3d drivers.
[04:20] <luke1> for your card
[04:20] <Office_2> it an APU
[04:21] <Office_2> AMD c-60 is a processor cum graphics card HD ATI 6290
[04:23] <luke1> office_2: try http://www.google.com/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=HD+ATI+6290+linux+driver&oq=HD+ATI+6290+linux+driver&gs_l=hp.3..33i29i30l4.1489.1489.0.2158.1.1.0.0.0.0.137.137.0j1.1.0...0.0...1c.2.18.psy-ab.AbOuNhVoLK4&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.eWU&fp=e1aa67eb06ab24ec&biw=1362&bih=633
[04:23] <luke1> sorry for long post
[04:23] <tp9> thank you wheatthin
[04:23] <wheatthin> yup hope it was helpful
[04:24] <Meatball_py> Hi, on Ubuntu 13.04, I've installed ibus and ibus-pinyin via apt-get, however, I couldn't figure out how to trigger the configuration menu of a specific input method (e.g. Pinyin). From memory, right click on the ibus icon at the right top corner triggers the ibus' menu, while left click triggers the menu of an input method. Any hint?
[04:25] <cfhowlett_> Meatball_py, likely that the #ubuntukylin room knows this one ...
[04:25] <Meatball_py> cfhowlett_: thanks
[04:26] <Meatball_py> but apparently I'm the only one who is in that room :(
[04:26] <luke1> office_2:or try the drivers in settings
[04:27] <cfhowlett_> Meatball_py, ok.  sorry.  I'm only a foreigner in China and I don't actually read/speak or write Chinese so, no pinyin for me ...
[04:28] <Meatball_py> cfhowlett_: I guess it applies to any other ibus input methods. Thank you all the same.
[04:29] <luke1> bye
[04:30] <lauratika> i got this new pc that i want to sync with my music folder in ubnuntu but i dont understand if i subscribe i will delete my cloud folder
[04:31] <cfhowlett_> lauratika, more details needed.  cloud?  IOS?  dropbox?
[04:31] <probyyprobs> wheatthin: that seems to have failed - network error. about to start the download again.  Wouldnt the wubi that I used to install it have put it somewhere though?  It was a wubi executable file, that then proceeded to download ubuntu and install it.  would it have downloaded an iso, that will now be on that computer to do this?
[04:31] <lauratika> ubuntu one, sorry
[04:32] <wheatthin> probyyprobs, I don't think so.
[04:32] <cfhowlett_> lauratika, stuff in uONE stays in uONE until you explicitly delete it.
[04:32] <probyyprobs> ok
[04:32] <probyyprobs> thanks
[04:32] <jony_easyrider> I need a walkthrough how to improve battery life for Dell Latitude series under Ubuntu 12.04
[04:33] <probyyprobs> ill download it again
[04:33] <that1guy> Hello all.... I've been running into the same problems over, and over again with running Mupen64 as a gui.....screenshots I've seen ARE running the GUI, and I can only seem to get it running through the console....any help would be greatly appreciated :)
[04:33] <wheatthin> probyyprobs, it might be faster if you download it via bittorrent
[04:33] <cfhowlett_> probyyprobs, torrent ... faster, safer more reliable
[04:33] <wheatthin> and it can be resumed
[04:33] <probyyprobs> ok
[04:36] <probyyprobs> wheatthin: which one would be more likely to work on this aging laptop :)
[04:36] <probyyprobs> Ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso  Uploaded 04-26 2012, Size 701.29 MiB, ULed by suryamukhi	33	3 Applications (UNIX) ubuntu 12.04.1 (32 bit)  Uploaded 08-25 2012, Size 695.29 MiB, ULed by NepsterJay
[04:36] <KyouReeUs4nfo> jony_easyrider: I would try PowerTop to see where things lead from there (sudo apt-get install powertop) and if you don't mind running extra set of tools look into laptop-mode.
[04:36] <that1guy> Before I go into more detail, I am running 64bit. I have the m64py (python version) running, but it DOES NOT want to accept the library files I downloaded through USC.
[04:36] <wheatthin> what are your specs?
[04:37] <probyyprobs> intel cm 520 1.6ghz, 1 gig ram.  1
[04:37] <cfhowlett_> probyyprobs, um, you should use the torrents from ubuntu.com ...
[04:37] <lauratika> so its ok is suscribe?
[04:37] <lauratika> caus i have another folder named music empty on the oc
[04:38] <cfhowlett_> lauratika, once you subscribe to your pre-existing uONE cloud and enable synchronization, those files will silently download to your computer
[04:38] <wheatthin> probyyprobs, Umm is that 32bit or 64bit computer?
[04:38] <probyyprobs> 32 id imagine
[04:38] <probyyprobs> its old
[04:38] <nurow2> Hello everyone. I was able to get ATI video drivers from the repo working, but now my dual monitors don't work. Any time that I attempt to enable the second monitor, I get an error: "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3840, 1080), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)"
[04:38] <wheatthin> aight well then just use the ubuntu12.04 desktop i386
[04:38] <Ben64> probyyprobs: as someone else said, use torrents from ubuntu
[04:39] <nurow2> I assume I need to alter my xord.conf file?
[04:39] <Office_2> luke1
[04:39] <cfhowlett_> probyyprobs, those are actually pretty minimal specs.  I'd suggest you consider lubuntu/xubuntu as they are optimized for older/lower spec machines
[04:39] <Ben64> probyyprobs: and it does do 64bit if you wanted to install that
[04:40] <lauratika> thanx a lot cfhowlett
[04:40] <MD|PlayingMinecr> probyyprobs: I suggest Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS from the "BitTorrent" section of www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads if you go the Ubuntu route. Though, Lubuntu is specified for lower end machines.
[04:40] <probyyprobs> i dont mind what it runs tbh... just want to see if a new os install will bring my VGA output back to life
[04:40] <seednode> Not gonna lie, Ubuntu wouldn't be my choice for under 1GB memory; though, since this is #ubuntu... Maybe go with ubuntu-server and try openbox or something?
[04:40] <probyyprobs> just want to put it under my plasma tv and leave it there, to run movies!
[04:41] <wheatthin> I dunno how great it'll play high def content tbo
[04:41] <probyyprobs> lol. we shall see!
[04:41] <MD|PlayingMinecr> You can get Lubuntu (32bit version for older machines) via Bittorrent at the following link: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/raring/release/lubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[04:42] <seednode> I've played 720p on an Atom without much trouble
[04:42] <Office_2> I think there is not linux that could work with AMD C-60 the way it works with Windows x64
[04:42] <KxTwo> anyone running ppsspp on their machine?
[04:44] <that1guy> Anyone here familiar with Mupen64 GUI? hate to keep questioning it, but I've been dealing with this problem for some time now, and forums have got me nowhere...
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> !ask
[04:44] <MD|PlayingMinecr> !Patience | that1guy
[04:45] <netlar> Has anyone got the Unifying devices from Logitech to work?
[04:45] <cfhowlett__> that1guy, never heard of it but ... if it's a newish device, don't expect that a linux solution exists.  If the OEM doesn't support it, it'll take time to backhack ...
[04:46] <MD|PlayingMinecr> netlar: If using Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS in Virtualbox means anything, then I have. I also believe I used my mouse on the Live CD "Test" mode with the disc in my laptop
[04:47] <that1guy> @cfhowlett_ it's a nintendo64 emulator, it's been out for a while....The USC has it in their repos, and many times in the past, I've got it to run, but only in the console....and I've seen screenshots of the GUI running on ubuntu in many places, with no help from those providers
[04:47] <netlar> You did not add any drivers?
[04:47] <MD|PlayingMinecr> Netlar: Not to my knowledge.
[04:47] <netlar> ok
[04:48] <MD|PlayingMinecr> Netlar: Though, I might be totally wrong. I wish you luck.
[04:48] <KM0201> i'd love an n64 emulator.. if i could just find a decent n64 controller.
[04:48] <netlar> thanks
[04:49] <cfhowlett__> that1guy, got it.  well, if it'll run in virtualbox, that's a good sign that it's functionality is high
[04:49] <that1guy> @KM0201 I bought a USB nintendo64 controller, and it worked great on Windows, works fine on all my other emus, but i just can't get mupen to run lol
[04:50] <MD|PlayingMinecr> That1Guy: Where did you get the USB N64 controller, if I might ask?
[04:50] <that1guy> amazon
[04:50] <MD|PlayingMinecr> That1Guy: Happen to remember the seller?
[04:50] <KM0201> hmm
[04:50] <probsprobsprobss> tst
[04:51] <that1guy> I'd have to find the receipt...it came from Hong Kong, and took like a month to ship
[04:51] <KM0201> that1guy: http://www.amazon.com/NINTENDO-64-CLASSIC-ENABLED-CONTROLLER-RETROLINK/dp/B008L3UUPS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372740657&sr=8-1&keywords=n64+usb+controller
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> amazon orders have where you got it from
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> or whom
[04:52] <KM0201> i might have to get that.. i've been wanting to play mario 64 a lot lately after watching a YT video, but my n64 bit the dust long ago.
[04:53] <zykotick9> that1guy: i have a n64 usb adapter as well, are you using mupen64plus?  and second, is it not working AT ALL, or just not calibrated?  cause i do have to "jump through some hoops" to get the calibration right.
[04:53] <that1guy> @MK yes, that is EXACTLY it
[04:53] <MD|PlayingMinecr> \It's Retrolink, so it should work pretty well. I got their NES controller and love it.
[04:53] <nurow2> Hello everyone. I was able to get ATI video drivers from the repo working, but now my dual monitors don't work. Any time that I attempt to enable the second monitor, I get an error: "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3840, 1080), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)"
[04:53] <nurow2> I assume I need to alter my xord.conf file?
[04:53] <that1guy> @zykotic9.....TELL ME HOW TO RUN IT IN GUI....THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL QUESTION LOL
[04:53] <zykotick9> !tab > that1guy
[04:55] <zykotick9> that1guy: have you installed the mupen64plus gui program?  if it's just a "how to run in gui" = i'm not actually interested, in your issue - sorry.  all my emus, basically MUST run from terminal, so i can use them with advancemenu.  best of luck.
[04:56] <KriShaNsin> I installed Tor through Ubuntu Software Center, then without reboot, or restart, I installed now Vidalia the Gui for Tor, also from the U.S. Center. its stuck on the "applying changes" phase of installation. can i stop it? what todo ? should i have restart after install of Tor before instlling the gui?
[04:56] <that1guy> izyko, I've tried everything.... most I could get was a UI console...
[04:57] <zykotick9> that1guy: sidenote= try zyk<TAB> to autocomplete my nick.  well i don't really have further suggestions, doesn't ubuntu have a mupen64plus gui available in the repo?  i'm pretty sure it does.
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> KriShaNsin, You said earlier that you had all the tools needed.
[04:58] <Daughain> How do I get a java app to launch on boot in 12.04?
[04:58] <KriShaNsin> oh cmon. wilee-nilee , should i just restart and try to install Vidalia again?
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> KriShaNsin, I would install it from them not the repos and run it without root.
[04:59] <KM0201> man, this emulator for 64 works great.. i'm so buying that controller.
[04:59] <probsprobsprobss> wheatthin: ok, the download has finished
[04:59] <probsprobsprobss> ill just drop it onto the desktop of the problematic computer
[04:59] <wheatthin> k
[04:59] <that1guy> zykotick9, no, it doesn't...it's a dummy package....and it doesn't do shit....i can run it through the terminal as "mupen64plus" and i get console....or i can find the sh file and sh ./* wildcard it and it still will give me console....
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> KriShaNsin, You get a zip from them, extract it and put the launcher where you want, works out of the box.
[05:02] <orangerobot> is there any reason why I can't seem to be able to LOAD_FILE on mysql in a fresh ubuntu 13.04 install?
[05:02] <wheatthin> probsprobsprobss, let me know when you're ready
[05:03] <Miningdude> For anyone interested in USB Game controllers for use in Emulators: https://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/whereisit.cgi?t=USB+Controller
[05:04] <nurow2> no takers? :(
[05:04] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: This link may (or may not) help you, http://askubuntu.com/questions/137251/dual-monitor-in-12-04-sort-of-works
[05:04] <wheatthin> it should be in your installed lense
[05:04] <wheatthin> nurow2,  ^
[05:04] <Halftrack> Hello. When my computer shuts down, a very fast and difficult message shows up. Sometimes it says "windbind daemon failed" or "end transmission." I can only catch a glimpse. I've never used Samba and I'm concerned it has been exploited.
[05:05] <that1guy> zykotick9,  gonna try to see how it runs through wine using project64...didn't want to, but i will try.
[05:06] <probsprobsprobss> wheatthin: so I have the file on the desktop, I have terminal open and it says username@ubuntu : $ and is ready for me to work some of your typy magic!
[05:06] <Miningdude> iirc, Ubuntu usually says "End Transmission" right before shutdown
[05:06] <Halftrack> There is a small message, but never one this long before.
[05:06] <Halftrack> I never bothered to read it.
[05:07] <wheatthin> probsprobsprobss, kk..     sudo dd if=/home/username/<isoname.iso of=/dev/sdb
[05:07] <cfhowlett> Halftrack, it'll be in a log
[05:07] <Jewpacabra> Is there
[05:07] <Halftrack> Where can I read the log?
[05:07] <Jewpacabra> Stupid question - is thers.
[05:07] <Jewpacabra> Whoops...
[05:08] <Jewpacabra> ANYWAYS... is there a way I can use my android phone as a wireless adapter on 10.04?
[05:09] <Ben64> 10.04 is no longer supported for desktops
[05:09] <nurow2> Kyou, I thought it would help, but once I ran "sudo aticonfig --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf --tls=1" I get "No supported adapters found" --wat??
[05:09] <nurow2> it's a ATI HD 5870
[05:09] <cfhowlett> Jewpacabra, tether?  sure.  plug it in, go online, and add a tethered device to network settings
[05:10] <Miningdude> My left CTRL key came off my laptop keyboard. Wish me luck getting it back on!
[05:10] <nurow2> I'm going to try to restart.
[05:10] <probsprobsprobss> wheatthin: no such fule or directory
[05:10] <probsprobsprobss> *file
[05:11] <probsprobsprobss> hang on
[05:11] <wheatthin> umm , don't copy the filename I put, you gotta use the one that's on your desktop
[05:11] <wheatthin> lol
[05:11] <probsprobsprobss> haha
[05:11] <Jewpacabra> cfhowlett: I don't see the option anywhere. I'm on jellybean
[05:11] <cfhowlett> Jewpacabra, the network option will be in ubuntu.
[05:11] <cortexA9> what is the default password of *buntu live ?
[05:11] <probsprobsprobss> sudo dd if=/home... right so far?
[05:12] <that1guy> zykotick9,  well, most games were lagging like hell..... I got Mario 64 to run at a decent frame rate, but my controller made the whole emu crash twice when programming controls.
[05:12] <Ben64> probsprobsprobss: what are you trying to accomplish?
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> cortexA9, H0w is it you would need it?
[05:12] <cfhowlett> Jewpacabra, and the device tether will be under wireless & networks > tethering and portable hotspot
[05:12] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: try #radeon
[05:12] <probsprobsprobss> there is an iso file of ubuntu on the desktop. I am in terminal. I want to make the USB drive a bootable version of that ISO...
[05:13] <wheatthin> Ben64, his cd/dvd is broken, so we're copying the iso, to usb drive, and installing it onto the computer, erasing the windows 7 and wubi install
[05:13] <Ben64> sounds like a roundabout way
[05:13] <probsprobsprobss> yeh. computers old. giving me a headache
[05:13] <probsprobsprobss> lol
[05:13] <cfhowlett> Ben64, wouldn't PXE be the optimal solution here?
[05:13] <wheatthin> Ben64, I suggested using dd in windows 7, but ehh
[05:13] <Ben64> but anyway, dd if=path_to_the_ubuntu.iso of=/dev/<whatever the flash drive is>
[05:14] <cortexA9> wilee-nilee: i've always wondered. :P
[05:14] <Ben64> wheatthin: unetbootin would have worked
[05:14] <probsprobsprobss> nope
[05:14] <probsprobsprobss> didnt ben64
[05:14] <probsprobsprobss> caused a few problems and wouldnt boot
[05:14] <Ben64> make sure you choose the right device for the flash drive or you could overwrite stuff you like
[05:14] <wheatthin> it's /devsdb
[05:15] <wheatthin> /dev/sdb*
[05:17] <Halftrack> I'm looking in /var/log but have no idea what I'm looking for.
[05:17] <probsprobsprobss> ok. so i have typed sudo dd if=/home/simonjaynes/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb bash:ubuntu.iso:
[05:17] <probsprobsprobss> that make sense?
[05:17] <wheatthin> nope
[05:17] <probsprobsprobss> lol
[05:17] <wheatthin> take off the bash_ubuntu.iso:
[05:18] <probsprobsprobss> sorry man. can you give me the whole thing again haha... my head is about to fall off
[05:18] <cortexA9> i readed the password is blank. :-)
[05:18] <wheatthin> sudo dd if=/home/simonjaynes/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb\
[05:18] <wheatthin> sudo dd if=/home/simonjaynes/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb
[05:18] <probsprobsprobss> thanks
[05:18] <cfhowlett> Halftrack, in a terminal > dmesg   gives a complete(?) list of system messages .  you should be able to use grep | message to find the one you want
[05:18] <wheatthin> sorry hit the backslash on accident the first time
[05:19] <probsprobsprobss> yay. this looks more promising
[05:19] <probsprobsprobss> password for simon jaynes...... doing!
[05:19] <cfhowlett> Halftrack, in a terminal > dmesg   gives a complete(?) list of system messages .  you should be able to use grep | message to find the one you want
[05:19] <Halftrack> I tried this as a solution
[05:19] <Halftrack> sudo find /var/log -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sudo zgrep "the message you are interested in"
[05:19] <Halftrack> Did not find anything.
[05:19] <Jewpacabra> cfhowlett: I don't see anything about it
[05:20] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: wb, I thought you would like to try #radeon if issue is still there
[05:20] <nurow2> Hmmmm, I'm getting Unsupported adapter after installing the drivers for my ATI HD 5870, even though it is supported
[05:20] <cortexA9> i don't like unity. Why ubuntu use unity.
[05:20] <cfhowlett> Jewpacabra, on your phone?  or on ubuntu
[05:20] <nurow2> oklay, thanks KyouReeUs4nfo
[05:21] <cfhowlett> cortexA9, logout.  choose a different desktop environment.  login.  fixed
[05:21] <tones> cortex, guome
[05:21] <tones> gnome
[05:21] <cortexA9> cfhowlett: yes thanks.
[05:22] <anom127001> ez all
[05:22] <Jewpacabra> cfhowlett: neither in that case
[05:22] <probsprobsprobss> wheatthin: wtf.....!  I can seem to type in terminal at the moment, got a flashing white block, but nothing in terms of response from the keyboard.... ill try again from scratch
[05:22] <probsprobsprobss> jeezuz lol
[05:22] <cfhowlett> Jewpacabra, dont' know what to tell you.  it was a plug and play setting on my nexus 4 with ubuntu 12.04
[05:22] <wheatthin> it means it's working
[05:23] <probsprobsprobss> ah
[05:23] <probsprobsprobss> hahaha
[05:23] <probsprobsprobss> sorry
[05:23] <wheatthin> and plz watch the language :)
[05:23] <probsprobsprobss> im used to easy gui stuff ;)
[05:23] <probsprobsprobss> sorry!
[05:23] <probsprobsprobss> exasperated
[05:23] <probsprobsprobss> does it matter that i was trying to type like a mentalist ;)
[05:24] <cortexA9> Unity is bad you know. Make default KDE please.
[05:24] <probsprobsprobss> i didnt put in the password for simon jaynes though
[05:24] <cortexA9> :)
[05:24] <nurow2> KyouReeUs4nfo.. i think that channel is moderated :-/
[05:24] <anom127001> Can I scroll up the chat with irssi?
[05:24] <wheatthin> probsprobsprobss, if you used sudo recently it won't ask for a minute
[05:24] <cfhowlett> !nounity|cortexa9
[05:24] <Miningdude> Something that I've noticed with Ubuntu: The longer you use it, the more you get used to using the OS equivalent of Terminal.
[05:25] <probsprobsprobss> the flashing white box is next to [sudo] password for simon jaynes:
[05:25] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: did you try generic drivers?
[05:25] <wheatthin> ahh then you type password and hit enter
[05:25] <nurow2> I can't, I'm a gamer :(
[05:25] <wheatthin> it won't show
[05:25] <chondm> hi
[05:25] <cortexA9> i don't like gnome 3.
[05:25] <probsprobsprobss> i cant though, its frozen up... shall i just start it again?
[05:25] <probsprobsprobss> typing revokes no response in terminal
[05:25] <wheatthin> probsprobsprobss, yeah you can
[05:25] <wheatthin> cntrl+c
[05:26] <tones> Minindude, what does OS equivalent of Terminal mean?
[05:26] <cfhowlett> cortexA9, so don't use it.  i already told you how to get an alternative running without having to install a single thing
[05:26] <probsprobsprobss> aha
[05:26] <probsprobsprobss> yes i can
[05:26] <probsprobsprobss> you are right
[05:26] <anom127001> screen -x
[05:26] <cortexA9> cfhowlett: why default is gnome 3 ?
[05:26] <Jewpacabra> cfhowlett: I have the option for mobile broadband connection. But I just want to share the wifi connection my phone has to my desktop
[05:26] <Halftrack> Not fiding relevant information in syslog.
[05:26] <cfhowlett> cortexA9, it just is.  I'm not a developer.
[05:26] <aoglobalent> Newbee question. I have just installed Ubuntu 12 and need to know how I can install correct drivers for a saphire 7990 ?
[05:26] <probsprobsprobss> dd: opening `home/simonjaynes/ubuntu.iso': No such file or directory
[05:27] <Miningdude> Tones: Whatever the OS would have that is similar to Linux's Terminal. On Mac, it would be Terminal. On WIndows, it would be Command Prompt, etc.
[05:27] <bravewolf> join ##gen
[05:27] <cfhowlett> Jewpacabra, get your phone running wifi.  enable tethering in the phone.  plug in to your computer.  ... or did you mean WIRELESS share?
[05:28] <cfhowlett> !terminal|Miningdude,
[05:28] <aoglobalent> Saphire 7990 Driver install. Can anyone help me?
[05:28] <alexandros_c> anyone using ubuntu 13.04 know how to stop yahoo mail from reloading continuously?
[05:28] <anom127001> Anyone mentors for programming out there
[05:28] <wheatthin> the 7990 isn't supported by linux drivers juts yet
[05:28] <wheatthin> just*
[05:28] <aoglobalent> wooow..... So there is no solution?
[05:28] <wheatthin> nope
[05:29] <cfhowlett> anom127001, probably no in this channel.
[05:29] <anom127001> that's too bad are you familiar with any
[05:29] <Miningdude> Cfhowlett: All I was saying about Terminal was that the more you use Ubuntu (or so I've noticed), you get more comfortable with the equivalents of the other popular Operating Systems.
[05:29] <wheatthin> with any what?
[05:29] <cfhowlett> Miningdude, fair enough.
[05:30] <Jewpacabra> cfhowlett: I don't see the option on the phone. Basically using it like as a wireless usb dongle
[05:30] <cfhowlett> Jewpacabra, 4.2.2??
[05:30] <aoglobalent> wow
[05:30] <aoglobalent> I am at a loss of words.. Dont know what to do?
[05:31] <aoglobalent> so essentialy a windows based system is the only thing that works right now for 7990?
[05:31] <probsprobsprobss> wheatthin:  the whole chain now reads like this simonjaynes@ubuntu:$ sudo dd if=/home/simonjaynes/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb [sudo] password for simonjaynes: dd:opening /home/simonjaynes/ubuntu.iso: no such file or directory simonjaynes@ubuntu: $
[05:32] <Jewpacabra> cfhowlett: 4.1.2
[05:32] <wheatthin> probsprobsprobss, did you include Desktop in the path since that's where it's at?
[05:32] <probsprobsprobss> nope
[05:32] <probsprobsprobss> where does that go
[05:32] <cfhowlett_> Jewpacabra, wait, I've got a nexus so my android is stock.  your's may not be.  Should be in your network settings somewhere ...
[05:32] <probsprobsprobss> after the home/  ?
[05:33] <cortexA9> what is the best ubuntu 12.04 LTS or 13.04 ?
[05:33] <wheatthin> dd if=/home/simonjaynes/Desktop/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb --progress
[05:33] <wheatthin> cortexA9, there is no best, but 12.04 is longer supported
[05:34] <Jewpacabra> cfhowlett: any recomended, preferably free, apps?
[05:34] <chondm> hi
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> !best | cortex
[05:35] <chondm> welcome
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> cortexA9, 12.04 has 5 years support 13.04 has newer versions of apps.
[05:36] <probsprobsprobss> wheatthin: flashing white light...... stopped white light...... usb drive and hard drive lights flickering flickering
[05:36] <cortexA9> wilee-nilee: why u put 2 versions on the home page ?
[05:36] <cfhowlett__> cortexA9, might wish to note that 13.04 is NOT supported for 5 years.
[05:36] <cortexA9> mmm
[05:36] <wheatthin> probsprobsprobss, means it's busy
[05:36] <cortexA9> people want to get the best.
[05:37] <probsprobsprobss> cool. how do i know when its done ?
[05:37] <nurow2> KyouReeUs4nfo.. any other ideas? :(
[05:37] <wheatthin> it'll return to $
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> cortexA9, I didn't that is canonoical, the lts longterm stays there till end of life and the newest release.
[05:37] <Halftrack> The relevant message I'm looking for is not in dmesg, and the shutdown logs do not have the relevant information in it.
[05:37] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: have you tried ATI Catalyst?
[05:37] <Ircchat234> LTS is usually worse if you have newer hardware that needs latest kernel like intel haswell, etc.
[05:37] <Halftrack> Is it possible it would be in another log?
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> cortexA9, Best is not a group consensus, it is what is best for you, best is a bad word here.
[05:38] <Halftrack> I tried the Samba folder
[05:38] <cortexA9> wilee-nilee: ok sorry :)
[05:38] <foo357> Hello, I've setup "unattended updates" and it should have been performed once now. But when I check the computer no updates have taken place. "Unattended" is triggered by cron, what logs should I check to see if cron initiated it and what happened?
[05:39] <tannji> Anyone using Enigmail addon for thunderbird?  I am about to install it but had a couple questions first
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> tannji, what is stopping you?
[05:40] <probsprobsprobss> wheatthin: hey man, I guess its still busy, I still have a solid white block and my USB pen drive is flickering away.  How do I know when I can move on to............ur......... whatever I do next!
[05:40] <port80web> Ok, so Buntu 12.10 tells me I can update to 13.04. When I click the "update now" button, it says "error" So how do I fix it?
[05:40] <wheatthin> well then after its' completed, you'll want to make sure your bios is set to boot usb devices first
[05:41] <probsprobsprobss> wheatthin: how do I know when its done though, does dd give me any kind of indication?
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> port80web, any details in the error?
[05:41] <wheatthin> it gives you a prompt with $
[05:41] <tannji> wilee-nilee,   I was looking at some commentary and some people were talking about how it messes up flowed formatting for email....
[05:41] <port80web> didn't copy them , but I'll make it happen again and get back to you wilee
[05:41] <cfhowlett__> its'  it's
[05:42] <cortexA9> there is an integrated firewall on ubuntu ?
[05:42] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> tannji, Not sure myself, you have to be sure your source is accurate is all.
[05:42] <cfhowlett__> !firewallcortexA9,
[05:42] <wheatthin> cortexA9, ufw
[05:42] <cfhowlett__> !firewall|cortexA9,
[05:42] <probsprobsprobss> wheatthin: yeh, got a prompt and a dollar sighn, and it looks ready to type again.  the USB has steadied too.
[05:42] <probsprobsprobss> its ready to reboot?
[05:42] <Halftrack> Is there a way I can search log files for particular text?
[05:42] <wheatthin> probsprobsprobss, yup
[05:42] <probsprobsprobss> great thanks
[05:43] <Halftrack> Or hell, the whole file system.
[05:43] <probsprobsprobss> i'll let you know how I get on!
[05:43] <foo357> Halftrack: grep "pattern" <file>?
[05:43] <cfhowlett__> Halftrack, dmesg|grep thisisthevariable
[05:43] <tannji> nurow2,   did you get my message about installing the drivers?  (a couple hours ago)
[05:43] <port80web> wilee-nilee, it says authentication failed there may be a problem with the netowrk or the server.
[05:44] <nurow2> tannji, no i missed it
[05:44] <cortexA9> mmm
[05:44] <tannji> nurow2,   one sec
[05:44] <cortexA9> and what about antivirus on ubuntu ?
[05:44] <nurow2> Kyou, when I tried installing the drivers from the site, I was told they were unsupported in this channel. when I installed those, I couldn't get the Catalyst control center to work
[05:44] <Miningdude> !antivirus | cortexA9
[05:45] <cfhowlett__> !virus|cortexA9,
[05:45] <cfhowlett__> !antivirus|cortexA9,
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> port80web, You can change the repo in software sources, I would let it find the fastest ping and try again, I assume you are not proxied.
[05:45] <port80web> you may need anitvirus when running a server to help the users of the server.
[05:45] <Miningdude> cfhowlett__: I just tossed that to him.
[05:45] <port80web> I use clamAV when serving
[05:45] <cortexA9> mmm
[05:46] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: reinstall perhaps? ( running out of ideas...  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1433477)
[05:46] <cortexA9> there are many virus and malware on linux.
[05:46] <tannji> nurow2,  this worked for me after spending about 2 months wrecking Unity and Lightdm.:  http://xpressrazor.wordpress.com/2013/05/31/fix-catalyst-driver-in-ubuntu-13-04/
[05:46] <nurow2> tannji, thanks! i'll try this
[05:47] <cortexA9> please consider a recommended antivirus.
[05:47] <tannji> nurow2,   were you able to roll-back drivers and fix unity with open source drivers?
[05:47] <Ircchat234> there are still some trojans / malware for linux. some of the linux AV software scans for them, as well as windows threats
[05:47] <mapp> yalfuck
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> port80web, YOU can run a update with no errors?
[05:47] <cfhowlett__> cortexA9, the most lethal linux virus is between the keyboard and the display.  common sense and caution will avoid practically all such problems.
[05:47] <port80web> it comes back authentication failed check your network or server
[05:47] <wheatthin> !language mapp
[05:48] <wheatthin> !language | mapp
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> Ircchat234, no trojans or malware, just rootkits and keyloggers and hacks
[05:48] <mapp> hm
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> those terms are not applicable
[05:49] <wheatthin> indeed it is
[05:49] <cortexA9> windows have an antivirus integrated.
[05:49]  * cfhowlett ...has run desktop linux since 2007 without protection and has yet to see a single virus
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> me neither
[05:50] <cortexA9> mmm
[05:50] <cortexA9> how you know that ?
[05:50] <cortexA9> maybe you have.
[05:50] <SecretFire> how come ubuntu isn't recognizing my mtp device?
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, which release?
[05:50] <SecretFire> Unable to open MTP device '[usb:002,005]
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> of ubuntu
[05:50] <SecretFire> its 13.04
[05:51] <AndresSM> cortex, even though there are virus in *nix they arent widespread
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, Hmm, I'm surprised it see mine.
[05:51] <MonkeyDust> !av
[05:51] <AndresSM> cortexA9, and by nature they can't do much...
[05:51] <AndresSM> unless you let them
[05:51] <SecretFire> wilee-nilee : I think it needs to be defined in udev
[05:51] <AndresSM> actually youhave to encourage them :D
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, I just use airdroid in genral.
[05:51] <Halftrack> Call me dumb, but I don't see how grep is supposed to work.
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> general*
[05:51] <cfhowlett_> cortexA9, if you just can't live without anti-virus, there are solutions in Ubuntu Software Center
[05:51] <cortexA9> there are malware on android too.
[05:52] <Halftrack> It doesn't do anything or nothing seems to happen.
[05:52] <SecretFire> wilee-nilee : the only thing that works is doing factory reset on the phone
[05:52] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, I'm not following you, context?
[05:52] <MonkeyDust> cortexA9  in the apps, which do not come from a controlled and screend
[05:52] <MonkeyDust> cortexA9  in the apps, which do not come from a controlled and screened repo
[05:53] <cfhowlett_> Halftrack, grep searches for specified text string.  for instance ... LS = list files grep *mac   would list only files name wildcardmac so>>>  ls | grep *mac
[05:53] <SecretFire> wilee-nilee : well, right now the mtp device won't mount, and i have solved it before by doing a factory reset on the phone
[05:53] <SecretFire> (mtp device=phone)
[05:53] <AndresSM> cortexA9, you can't get malware from downloads, etc, you get malware from apps YOU INSTALL
[05:53] <Halftrack> Where are the results displayed? I'm not seeing any indication of results or that the search process is working.
[05:53] <cfhowlett_> SecretFire, mtp and some ubuntus don't play nice all the time.  on 12.04 I had to use a workaroud
[05:53] <AndresSM> a big difference from windows where you can get virii just because you have a file
[05:53] <cortexA9> ok AndresSM thanks :)
[05:54] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, cool here is some other info I use the ppa on 12.04 when needed. askubuntu.com/questions/284762/some-ubuntu-13-04-applications-cannot-access-files-on-mtp-mounted-systems-why
[05:54] <SecretFire> Ive heard of people using unity and gomtpfs
[05:54] <cfhowlett_> Halftrack, feedback will be in the terminal
[05:56] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, The android version makes a difference in 13.04 just mounting it.
[05:56] <cortexA9> but a browser malware for linux ?
[05:56] <cortexA9> i recommend to use adblock and wot.
[05:56] <SecretFire> wilee-nilee : yes I am aware, I have android 4.0
[05:56] <wilee-nilee> needs to be 4 at least I believe
[05:56] <AndresSM> cortexA9, adblock is always good
[05:57] <cfhowlett_> cortexA9, again, see the software center
[05:57] <MonkeyDust> cortexA9  and Ghostery
[05:57] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, The ppa seems to work I would try that if you have not got it working.
[05:57] <cfhowlett_> ls
[05:57] <cortexA9> ghostery ?
[05:57] <cortexA9> what's that
[05:57] <SecretFire> wilee-nilee : how so?
[05:57] <AndresSM> cortexA9, but it's not like you will find  10000s of toolbars installed on your linux browser anytime soon
[05:57] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, how so what?
[05:57] <cfhowlett_> cortexA9, details in the software center.  You don't REALLY expect us to do your research for you, do you?"
[05:58] <SecretFire> wilee-nilee : what ppa and how do I use it
[05:58] <cortexA9> hehe
[05:58] <cortexA9> ok cfhowlett_
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, I gave you a link and within it is the mtp ppa.
[05:58] <cfhowlett_> Halftrack, run info grep    in a terminal for details on how to use
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> askubuntu.com/questions/284762/some-ubuntu-13-04-applications-cannot-access-files-on-mtp-mounted-systems-why
[05:59] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire,  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[05:59] <Friberg_> how about no.
[05:59] <SecretFire> wilee-nilee : ok got it, now there are some options here like gvfs and libmtp, which ones do I get?
[05:59] <MonkeyDust> cortexA9  look for ghostery in the plugin list
[06:00] <cortexA9> yes i see thanks MonkeyDust
[06:00] <neonelf> so installing 13.04 server on SCSI raid 0 and having problems.  Can anyone help?
[06:01] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, No idea, I used the ppa when I was running 12.04, 13.04 mounts both devices I have a nexus 7 and htc dna, however I just use airdroid from google play.
[06:01] <SecretFire> ok i think i get it
[06:01] <wilee-nilee> cool
[06:03] <Halftrack> Is there a way to add a process bar to grep?
[06:04] <the_last> Hmm would it be possible to install additional software to a non-persistent live-usb image? i.e. i mount the USB and add the software to X folders
[06:05] <andersen> CortexA9:what abt malware from android
[06:05] <MonkeyDust> Halftrack  grep is a filter, what do you mean or want to achieve?
[06:06] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: (just for reference: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page)
[06:06] <Halftrack> I imagine that it takes time to look through files, kind of like a search would.
[06:07] <MonkeyDust> Halftrack  try this line         grep -r "some_text" *
[06:07] <goodjob> grep is a txt process tool, derived from the old unix editor ED
[06:08] <cfhowlett_> Halftrack, there's more than likely an easier tool to find the specific info you need.  I only specified grep as I sometimes used that and I don't KNOW the alternatives.  Please ask in the channel.
[06:08] <devslash> Ubuntu just locked on me and now it won't boot I just get a black screen
[06:09] <devslash> Can anyone help me
[06:09] <nurow2> thx KyouReeUs4nfo. I'm still following tannji's guide for the moment
[06:10] <KyouReeUs4nfo> no problem, please post the outcome
[06:11] <Halftrack> My problem is that when Ubuntu shuts down it shows messages that concern me in terms of security. One is "winbind terminal failed." I want to read these messages but they're too quick, and not appearing in the shutdown logs.
[06:12] <Halftrack> Excuse me "winbind daemon failed"
[06:12] <Halftrack> Not terminal.
[06:13] <devslash> I really need help here
[06:13] <devslash> I can't boot Ubuntu anymore
[06:13] <nurow2> okay guys, I'm rebooting. Wish me luck ;)
[06:14] <devslash> What can I do
[06:14] <Miningdude> Good luck nurow2!
[06:14] <sensae> I'm having a strange issue with 12.04 on my Lenovo x120e. When displaying a mostly white screen, the display is at a certain brightness. If I open a visually darker screen, like opening the lens, the display dims to almost off
[06:14] <Miningdude> !patience | DevSlash sensae
[06:15] <MonkeyDust> Halftrack  are you using samba?
[06:15] <sensae> This was my first time asking.. I'm a patient person.
[06:15] <Halftrack> I assume that Samba is used automatically by Ubuntu. I have never installed or used Samba.
[06:16] <cfhowlett_> Halftrack, some configuration is still required :)
[06:16] <Halftrack> I have never configured Samba.
[06:16] <Miningdude> DevSlash: What happens when you try to boot?
[06:16] <AleXa> on my 12.10 i manually set internal IP using Gui. When PC starts, it isn't automatically connected to internet. I have to make two clicks on panel, in order to choose wired connection. Then it connects.
[06:16] <Halftrack> There is a Samba file though, with some logs in it.
[06:17] <AleXa> How to make it connect automatically, as it used to be?
[06:17] <MonkeyDust> Halftrack  is this useful   http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/wbinfo.1.html
[06:17] <goodjob> devslash:  you can boot from cdrom, or enter into rescue mode
[06:18] <SuperLag> If you have more than one PPA installed... is there a way to figure out which packages are associated with which PPA?
[06:18] <MonkeyDust> SuperLag  careful with ppa's, they are not screened and not supported
[06:18] <Miningdude> AleXa: Are there any options to automatically connect in the Network settings? (I would look, but It's 2 AM for me)
[06:19] <SuperLag> MonkeyDust: Sooooo.... what would *you* do, if you needed $PACKAGE and the only place you could find it was in a PPA?
[06:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> SuperLag: is the ppa from a trustworthy source?
[06:20] <SuperLag> In the cases that I have installed, yes.
[06:20] <MonkeyDust> SuperLag  i would use it at my own risk
[06:20] <AleXa> miningdude, i guess thee ae not. not at home atm. 8am here
[06:20] <SuperLag> MonkeyDust: Understood. Now, do you happen to know the answer to my original question?
[06:21] <Miningdude> AleXa: Ah. I'll try and figure out if there are any options. I hope you have a nice day.
[06:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> Miningdude: having minecraft issues?
[06:22] <Miningdude> ntzrmtthihu777: Why you ask?
[06:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> Miningdude: name, lol. just came on channel, looking for someone to assist :P
[06:22] <Halftrack> I can barely read that. I'm not good with computer stuff. From what I understand, Samba is a primary domain controller / server with known exploits and weaknesses. It's weird that this recently started happening.
[06:23] <Miningdude> ntzrmtthihu777: Ah, I'm just tired, is all. Unless you can make me not tired right now (And probably for the next ~22 hours,) that would be great/
[06:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> sorry, my monster energy drink scanner & porter is down for repairs :P
[06:24] <goodjob> Is anynone from China?I am so happy ,it is first time to use IRC :),I never knew what IRC stands for yesterday
[06:24] <Miningdude> ntzrmtthihu777: Darn. Happen to have one of those for Hot Chocolate?
[06:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> goodjob: 你好
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> !ot
[06:25] <tannji> goodjob, gratz  = )
[06:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> Miningdude: yeah, this is ot :P
[06:26] <Miningdude> ntzrmtthihu777: Right, forgot. Again, 2 AM. So, what can I possibly help with?
[06:29] <SuperLag> MonkeyDust: so no idea then? :/
[06:30] <MonkeyDust> SuperLag  no, sorry
[06:30] <MonkeyDust> SuperLag  you could contact the maintainer of the ppa
[06:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> SuperLag: what's your issue?
[06:32] <SuperLag> just figured it out
[06:32] <SuperLag> there is a file in /var/cache/apt/ that lists what is in said PPA
[06:33] <MonkeyDust> SuperLag  for future reference, how did you do it?
[06:33] <MonkeyDust> ok
[06:33] <SuperLag> MonkeyDust: first I did a recursive find for "pasgui" as it was a name in the PPA line in Software Sources
[06:33] <SuperLag> MonkeyDust: figured out it was Code::Blocks
[06:34] <SuperLag> then I just used dpkg to remove it, and removed the lines from the settings for software sources
[06:35] <SuperLag> 3 PPAs. One for Handbrake. One for fingerprint-gui. One for xedgers (Nvidia stuff)
[06:35] <dill> i install ubuntu on a new pc and was working on installing applications, it was woking ok, i restart the pc and suddenly opera wont load, it looks like is on in unity but can see nothing same with skype, any idea what can be the issue, starting opera via terminal gives me this (opera:3997): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",
[06:35] <SuperLag> dill: how did you install Opera?
[06:36] <dill> via the website then .deb via ubuntu centre
[06:36] <SuperLag> hmm
[06:36] <theadmin> That's odd, sounds like you're missing a theme engine, but... Opera ain't a Gtk app, it's Qt-based
[06:36] <SuperLag> MonkeyDust: having trouble getting the fingerprint reader to behave, and I'm not the only one with this issue
[06:36] <dill> skype too, and icons wont show in notification area
[06:36] <KM0201> dill: sudoa pt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[06:36] <foo357> Hello, I've setup "unattended updates" and it has performed an update. It's set to automatically reboot if needed but it didn't do that after this update  which required a reboot.
[06:37] <SuperLag> Personally, I think unattended updates are a very bad idea. That's just my $.02
[06:37]  * KM0201 agrees
[06:38] <dill> KM0201: done, should i restart ubuntu
[06:38] <dill> or just try again launch opera?
[06:38] <KM0201> uh, shouldn't need to i wouldn't think
[06:38] <KM0201> just try to launch opera
[06:39] <dill> odd not working, either skype. hmmm does the fact that no icon in tray means something?
[06:40] <dill> im trying via terminal and nothing comes up...
[06:40] <KM0201> notification area in Unity is always jacked up...
[06:40] <tannji> I have a .txt.asc I need to open and paste contents from.  just use "open with" and select gedit?
[06:40] <KM0201> personally, i switched to Mate, and it's heaven
[06:41] <dill> mate? what is it?
[06:42] <nurow2> tannji, you still around?
[06:42] <dill> very odd behaviour, never see it before. now terminal wont show info at all
[06:42] <tannji> nurow2,  ya man, how did it go?
[06:43] <nurow2> better...
[06:43] <nurow2> much better
[06:43] <nurow2> but, now I have a new strange problem
[06:43] <tannji> nurow2,  ah....?    uhoh
[06:43] <SuperLag> skype depends on 32-bit libs too, I *think*
[06:43] <SuperLag> so if you don't have ia32-libs installed, you might want that
[06:43] <tannji> there isnt a 64-bit skype out yet...
[06:43] <KM0201> it installs ia32libs automatically (at least it should)
[06:44] <theadmin> tannji: Right, it's 32-bit. 64-bit systems can run 32-bit apps with proper libraries installed.
[06:44] <nurow2> both of my monitors are way under-scanned each time I boot the computer. If I turn the overscan all the way up, it fixes it. but once I reboot, the problem is back. After rebooting, if I look at the overscan settings, it shows my overscan all the way up (even though it isn't) if i move it down and back up again, it fixes it until I reboot.
[06:44] <KM0201> dill: dunno, thats a common solution to the "pixmap" problem however.. here's a link...  http://ubuntutechnical.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/gtk-warning-unable-to-locate-theme-engine-in-module_path-pixmap/
[06:44] <SuperLag> theadmin: if only we could make a clean break with 32-bit tech :)
[06:44] <KM0201> dill: what is your graphics device?
[06:45] <theadmin> SuperLag: Agreed, it's so old I don't even know who uses those anymore. Apparently, Microsoft does :/
[06:45] <tannji> theadmin,   yep....  but from what I have read recently, skype is pretty borked for ubuntu
[06:46] <KM0201> SuperLag: eventually we will.. but there's enoughf olks out there still running 32bit hardware, it's worthwhile for linux to support it for now
[06:46] <theadmin> tannji: Eh, works fine on my 13.04 box
[06:46] <dill> KM0201: is a new pc how can i check that?
[06:46] <tannji> theadmin,  really.   I might have to give it ago and compare notes with you at some point
[06:46] <KM0201> dill: check what?
[06:46] <tannji> a go*
[06:46] <dill> odd enough firefox launch normal
[06:47] <KM0201> dill: what are you wanting to check?
[06:47] <KM0201> if it's a new computer, the odds of it being 32bit, are very very small.
[06:47] <dill> graphics device
[06:47] <tannji> nurow2,  still there?
[06:47] <KM0201> dill: oh... lspci should show it (lowercase L)
[06:48] <dill> well the 64 bit of opera version didn run
[06:48] <theadmin> dill: lspci | grep -i vga
[06:48] <theadmin> Woah, lots of KDE-related upgrades today.
[06:48] <dill>  Intel Corporation N10
[06:48] <maroloccio> hi. best X image viewer to remote over ssh? using xli at the moment..
[06:48] <KM0201> dill: did you install the 64bit or 32it version of ubuntu?
[06:48] <dill> 32 bit
[06:48] <dill> same i was using in another pc same model
[06:48] <KM0201> well... thats why 64bit opera would not install
[06:48] <nurow2> tannji, yes
[06:49] <nurow2> did you see my message?
[06:49] <SuperLag> o.O
[06:49] <tannji> nurow2,  nope, I missed it, one sec
[06:49] <dill> KM0201: yes, i was trying to clear my self, dont bother with my coment
[06:49] <KM0201> why did you install 32biit?.. just curious... i stuck w/ 32bit forever, because 64bit hadn't developed far enough, but even I switched about 2yrs ago
[06:50] <tannji> nurow2,  I take it you played with those settings in Catalyst?
[06:50] <dill> no reason
[06:51] <KM0201> how much RAM does your system have?
[06:51] <nurow2> yes
[06:51] <dill> sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf shows i jhave the latest install
[06:51] <nurow2> tannji: both of my monitors are way under-scanned each time I boot the computer. If I turn the overscan all the way up, it fixes it. but once I reboot, the problem is back. After rebooting, if I look at the overscan settings, it shows my overscan all the way up (even though it isn't) if i move it down and back up again, it fixes it until I reboot.
[06:52] <theadmin> dill: Do the same for gtk3-engines-pixbuf then
[06:52] <theadmin> Err, never mind, that doesn't exist.
[06:52] <dill> 2 gb
[06:53] <dill> theadmin:  Unable to locate package gtk3-engines-pixbuf
[06:54] <dill> whats the difference from 32 and 64
[06:54] <KM0201> dill: what did you download, the opera package from opera.com?
[06:54] <KM0201> dill: in this case.. probably nothing.
[06:54] <dill> yes, deb package
[06:54] <dill> as usual
[06:55] <dill> and it was working fine was customizing it and after a restart... kaput!...
[06:55] <dill> i reinstall opera, dowloading the deb again and nothing
[06:55] <KM0201> dill: wellt here's your answer.. your "customizing" probably fubarred something w/ Unity
[06:56] <KM0201> dill: go to /home/username/.opera   and delete that folder (note, you will lose all opera settings)... so if you want to copy it elsehwere before doing so.. thats fine)...
[06:56] <KM0201> after you delete that folder, restart opera
[06:56] <dill> can be, but was a regular thing, more like settings in opera.
[06:57] <KM0201> dill: well, just a suggestion
[06:57] <KM0201> i'd delete your current configuration and start over
[06:57] <dill> yes thanx for that...
[06:57] <dill> doind so
[06:57] <dill> doing sorry
[06:58] <tannji> nurow2,   you're running dual monitors, not output to tv?
[06:58] <dill> aa! it worked, it worked... feels like raining!.
[06:58] <dill> should i do the same with skype?
[06:58] <KM0201> yeah, somethign in your "tweaking".... is not agreeing with unity...
[06:58] <KM0201> dill: won't hurt anything w/ skype..
[06:59] <KM0201> you'll just lose any customizations you have.
[06:59] <dill> well since i installed can launch it
[06:59] <dill> what about the tray icon showing opera, i already apply all in whitelist
[06:59] <KM0201> dill: that i have no idea on.
[07:00] <KM0201> unity and the notification area never seemed to work right for me
[07:00] <dill> well now unity wont pop up!!
[07:00] <dill> it's gone
[07:00] <KM0201> ..
[07:01] <KM0201> install lxde, mate, xfce, or God forbid.. KDE... problem solved
[07:01] <dill> mate works good with gnome?
[07:01] <KM0201> mate works flawlessly for me
[07:02] <KM0201> but.. i loved gnome 2.x... so.. i guess thats why like it so much
[07:02] <MonkeyDust> dill  or try fallback-session
[07:02] <dill> is gnome theme?
[07:03] <KM0201> no, gnome is a library
[07:03] <MonkeyDust> dill  no, it looks like gnome2, maybe you want that
[07:03] <nurow2> tannji, i have dual monitors for now. I also will be adding a tv, but first I have to get this right
[07:03] <KM0201> dill: http://imagebin.org/263178
[07:03] <tannji> nurow2,  are you using hdmi output to monitors?
[07:04] <dill> MonkeyDust: more like i want to not have issues with unity, i dont use it that much anyway
[07:04] <nurow2> they are both DVI to HDMI (hdmi on the monitor side)
[07:05] <dill> KM0201: seems nice what about the dock or application bar?
[07:05] <dill> is there any
[07:05] <tannji> nurow2,  take a look at this link, I think it might work. notice it requires Xrandr:    http://newagesoldier.com/linux-hdmi-resize-screen-overscan-fix-ubuntu/
[07:05] <KM0201> nope... applications are launched in the applicationss menu
[07:05] <KM0201> you could make one i guess
[07:06] <tannji> nurow2,  also notice that he forgot to put 2 dashes before  Output and Transform
[07:06] <nurow2> how  do i get xrandr?
[07:07] <KM0201> dill: http://imagebin.org/263180
[07:07] <KM0201> dill: i hav a couple of things that i can launch from a "side panel".. that i have set to transparent... it's just a couple of things i like a click away... it works for me.
[07:07] <tannji> nurow2,  should be in the software center
[07:08] <dill> KM0201: looks nice, thats gnome 3?
[07:08] <KM0201> dill: no, that is Mate desktop.. gnome 3 sucks just about as badly Unity.... Mate... is basically gnome 2
[07:09] <KM0201> here's what i mean by the "side panel" (look on the left...)   it only comes up when i move my cursor all the way to the left of the screen..  http://imagebin.org/263181
[07:09] <dill> KM0201: you are right freaking sucks...
[07:10] <KM0201> dill: yep...
[07:10] <IvelfanFr> Hello
[07:11] <KM0201> i liked Unity... even preached it's simplicity, etc.. then i decided to take a trip down memory lane w/ Mate(which as I said, is essentially Gnome 2., which i used for years)... and then I realized how much i hated unity... and i've used mate since.
[07:11] <KM0201> if you really want dead sexy simplicity/speed... LXDE
[07:11] <SDIS> hi all
[07:11] <Daughain> Whats the best way to learn perl?
[07:11] <nurow2> tannji, is it lxrandr?
[07:12] <tannji> nurow2,  not sure, I didnt have to use it...   one sec
[07:12] <KM0201> unfortunately now, i see Unity as being sort of like Windows 8's interface... someone is trying to make one user interface, for phones, tablets, and PC's... and it just isn't gonna work.
[07:13] <KM0201> i think unity will translate well to phones/tablets/touch screens.
[07:13] <nurow2> I installed lxrandr.. when I do that command I get: warning: output HDMI1 not found; ignoring
[07:13] <gordonjcp> KM0201: it works great on the desktop, too
[07:13] <KM0201> gordonjcp: i guess thats a matter of opinion....
[07:13] <dill> KM0201: i think is pushing a lot mobility and new divices... and seems they are sticking with it.
[07:13] <gordonjcp> KM0201: far better than say Gnome 2, with that big ugly bar at the top and bottom
[07:14] <KM0201> gordonjcp: again, matter of opinion...
[07:14] <gordonjcp> KM0201: generally my opinion is that it doesn't matter *which* desktop you use, they're all much the same
[07:14] <dill> gordonjcp: certanly should evolve a bit more in terms of customization
[07:14] <gordonjcp> dill: as KM0201 says, it's a matter of opinion
[07:14] <KM0201> dill: well, keep mind... it took KDE4 quite a while before it really became usable... i'd even say in the very beginning, it was a complete wreck... now, it's not bad..
[07:15] <MonkeyDust> dill  you can use unity-tweak-tool
[07:15] <gordonjcp> dill: I couldn't care less about customisation, which is one of the reasons I don't like KDE
[07:15]  * KM0201 doesn't like KDE either
[07:15] <gordonjcp> KDE has too many options to fiddle with, to do even the simplest thing like change mouse tracking speed, and if you want to get rid of the irritating animations and visual and sound effects you've got about 50 different things to adjust
[07:16] <KM0201> i don't care about customizing, i just the user interface, to get out of the way... for the most part.
[07:16] <gordonjcp> KM0201: yeah
[07:16] <emite> Hello, I found myself needing to use a 512 MB RAM machine, I've installed Ubuntu server so far, upgrading to latest release right now. Which desktop environment would you recommend for me ? I'm a KDE/Gentoo user.
[07:16] <nardev> hello, i have some strange problem with colors when playing video it's like this http://www.nardev.org/_temp/colors.png and it's same whatever player i use. I'm on squeeze. what could be the problem?
[07:16] <emite> I have no experience with lightweight environments so far.
[07:16] <gordonjcp> KM0201: I basically change the desktop background from the default Ubuntu "bruise and septicaemia colours" and that's about it
[07:16] <dill> MonkeyDust: at some point i try but some conflicts with the system i forgot about it.
[07:16] <gordonjcp> emite: LXDE
[07:16] <KM0201> emite: 512mb of ram?.. thats LXDE land
[07:16] <gordonjcp> emite: actually I suggest you install another half gig of RAM
[07:16] <tannji> nurow2,   not sure...  most of the commentary I am finding references Xrandr....   might ask again here, or on ubuntu support forum
[07:16]  * KM0201 agrees with gordonjcp 
[07:17] <gordonjcp> emite: here's a fiver, go and bring it into the 21st century
[07:17] <KM0201> lol
[07:17] <emite> gordonjcp: that's not up to me actually, it's a temporary computer I got at work.
[07:17] <cfhowlett> emite, lxde or xfce4
[07:17] <KM0201> depending on the t ype of ram, should be cheap.
[07:17] <KM0201> xfce is a pig compared to lxde.. it's gotten as bad as unity/kde with its latest releases.
[07:17] <dill> KM0201: this is weird, i closed opera relaunch and happens same issue, seems is a problem with the .opera
[07:17] <wilee-nilee> emite, As far a canonical de lubuntu is the lightest, but there are handfuls of others depends on what you want really.
[07:17] <nurow2> ok... any on else know is lxrandr = xrandr?
[07:18] <emite> canonical de lubuntu?
[07:18] <KM0201> dill: dunno.. i don't use opera much.. ijust installed it to test your little opera.. my guess is, it's arguing with unity for some reason
[07:18]  * gordonjcp -> out
[07:18] <KM0201> because its working flawlessly for me
[07:18] <emite> looks like I will be trying LXDE.
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> emite, canonical is ubutnu de is desktop lubuntu is lxde with a bit more.
[07:18] <nurow2> tannji, either way, xrandr is installed actually. It's just giving me that error: warning: output HDMI1 not found; ignoring
[07:18] <dill> KM0201: seems like that
[07:18] <gordonjcp> emite: at work we basically just ended up bullying the managing director into paying to upgrade the work laptops from 512MB (1GB in my case) to 2.5GB ;-)
[07:19] <dill> is there a way to disable unity
[07:19] <MonkeyDust> dill  http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[07:19] <KM0201> dill: well you'd need another desktop to run in its place
[07:19] <cfhowlett> !nounity|dill,
[07:19] <oal> Anyone else having problems with keyboard shortcuts in 13.04? I have to press ctrl before shift on shortcuts involving ctrl and shift. shift+ctrl doesn't work.
[07:19] <MonkeyDust> dill  simply install a different DE, logout, change login
[07:20] <emite> and a lightweight web browser? is there one bundled with LXDE? I guess Firefox is out of the question?
[07:20]  * KM0201 sttrongly encourages the use of Mate
[07:20] <oal> emite, Midori?
[07:20] <dill> MonkeyDust: nice!! i can see many options now
[07:20] <KM0201> i'm guessing in... about 2yrs... Ubuntu is going to create a "Mate" release (ala Kubuntu, Lubuntu, etc..) and it's motto is gonna be "Sorry about that Unity idea.."
[07:21] <emite> oal: will try it, thanks :)
[07:21] <dill> emite: midori
[07:21] <KM0201> because with Mint putting outa Mate release, and Fedora putting out a Mate release.. it's inevitable that Ubuntu gets on board
[07:21] <dill> KM0201: LOL
[07:22] <ikonia> KM0201: perhaps keep those sort of "smart" comments out of the channel please
[07:22] <KM0201> lol
[07:22] <ikonia> there is no mate release or official packages to date,
[07:22] <emite> so installing lubuntu-desktop should get all the LXDE stuff installed for me, right? Is there a login manager bundled like KDM?
[07:23] <dill> ikonia: lest see what the future brings to unity
[07:23] <ikonia> emite: there is a login manager yes,
[07:23] <cfhowlett> emite, yes there is, but kdm is NOT the login manager, it's the desktop environment ... look and feel
[07:24] <emite> cfhowlett: I'm afraid you are confusing KDE with KDM :)
[07:25] <cfhowlett> emite, D'OH!  you're right, of course.
[07:25] <emite> ok, thanks to all, I'm going to google the rest now. Excited to try that LXDE stuff, heard a bit about it and only good things.
[07:28] <nurow2> hello, can anyone help? both of my monitors are way under-scanned each time I boot the computer. If I turn the overscan all the way up, it fixes it. but once I reboot, the problem is back. After rebooting, if I look at the overscan settings, it shows my overscan all the way up (even though it isn't) if i move it down and back up again, it fixes it until I reboot.
[07:33] <tannji> nurow2,   I think you can fix it with that xrandr, but it will require either modifying or creating a .conf file for  xorg.  you might want to create a second user account to do it from, or boot the computer from usb live key, so that its easy to recover
[07:34] <nurow2> what would i add to the xorg.conf file?
[07:34] <abdel> please I just got q10 but i cant install the softwarre in ubuntu
[07:34] <KM0201> q10?
[07:34] <tannji> I'll give you a link, its a bit over my head, I would have to do it and break it myself to know what to tell you  = )
[07:35] <abdel> any idea on how to install blackberry software in ubuntu,
[07:35] <oal> Anyone on 13.04 here who have a moment to test something? Open the terminal, and press ctrl+shift (in that order), then shift+ctrl. Is there any difference to you?
[07:35] <oal> In my opinion, I can only use ctrl+shift+something if I press ctrl first
[07:35] <oal> Very strange...
[07:36] <KM0201> oal: that doesn't seem strange to me
[07:36] <oal> KM0201, why not?
[07:36] <KM0201> if a keyboard is "control + shift"... to me... "shift+ control" is different
[07:36] <KM0201> sorry, keyboard shortcut..
[07:36] <oal> It has never been before
[07:36] <KM0201> oal: i dunno, id on't use keyboard shortcuts.. but.. like i said.. it makes sense to me
[07:37] <oal> I've always just hammered my pinkey on shift and ctrl, but now I have to make sure I hit ctrl first. Very annoying
[07:37] <wilee-nilee> abdel, I found this, never used a blackberry myself. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/Blackberry
[07:37] <KM0201> just get an android.
[07:37] <KM0201> :)
[07:38] <BillyZane> hi
[07:38] <BillyZane> i'm running ubuntu 13.04. i have a problem with an application that won't close. it's vlc player.
[07:38] <cfhowlett> KM0201, I tend to agree.  I upgraded last month from Moto Razr v3 to Nexus 4 ... impressive.  And BB waited a bit too long to innovate and release a modern device IMO
[07:39] <MonkeyDust> BillyZane  what happens when you try?
[07:39] <BillyZane> i tried "sudo killall vlc" , i tried "sudo killall -9 vlc"
[07:39] <wilee-nilee> abdel, Using "blackberry ubuntu" as search on google has a lot of hits.
[07:39] <cfhowlett> BillyZane, in a terminal run PS to get the process id number of vlc.  Then run kill -9 pid
[07:39] <kohvihoor> BillyZane: try pidof vlc and use that number with kill -9 <pid>
[07:39] <BillyZane> MonkeyDust, the program will not quit nor would it load any movies. as of now, after using the killall commands, the icon is still on the system tray, but it's completely frozen
[07:39] <KM0201> cfhowlett: well, im far from a smartphone expert, just got my first one about 3mo ago... but i love my Android (LG Optimus w/ JB 4.1.2
[07:39] <tannji> nurow2,  my link went poof.  I would try back here tomorrow, earlier when some of the guys with more xserver knowledge are in.  very sorry...  cant freaking find the link I was just reading!
[07:40] <BillyZane> oh ok
[07:40] <bleb> I was trying to get vi to envoke vi instead of vim, and I think I messed up a file but I don't know which one. I think typing vi envokes vim-tiny now, which can't understand parts of my .vimrc. How can I change it back?
[07:40] <KriShaNsin> I use open SSh on my machines here sometimes. Is it true that having Tor installed, can leak my ssh login information? is it the Tor daemon? is there a way to kill Tor while i ssh?
[07:40] <MonkeyDust> BillyZane  type ps -e|grep vlc, read the number, then kill that number
[07:41] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: are you connecting to a TV? just curious.
[07:41] <BillyZane> 3486 ?        00:00:01 vlc <defunct>
[07:41] <MonkeyDust> BillyZane  now type           kill 3486
[07:41] <KM0201> KriShaNsin: i've never heard that... seems unlikelyt o me.. but considering there's usually some unscrupulous individuals using TOR.. it's quite possible i guess
[07:41] <BillyZane> cfhowlett, i tried that command.... bash: kill: pid: arguments must be process or job IDs
[07:42] <BillyZane> MonkeyDust, i typed it in
[07:42] <KM0201> sudo reboot -h now  :)
[07:43] <BillyZane> MonkeyDust, i redid ps -e|grep vlc , the app seems to still be running
[07:43] <nurow2> no problem tannji
[07:43] <mumpitzel> BillyZane: killall vlc
[07:43] <nurow2> KyouReeUs4nfo, I am going to, but I haven't yet. The TV is unrelated to this problem
[07:43] <MonkeyDust> BillyZane  did you kill the nulbe
[07:43] <MonkeyDust> number*
[07:44] <BillyZane> mumpitzel, did not work
[07:44] <BillyZane> MonkeyDust, i pasted exactly what you typed
[07:44] <mumpitzel> !doesn't work
[07:44] <BillyZane> kill 3486
[07:44] <kohvihoor> BillyZane: try kill -9 3486
[07:44] <BillyZane> ok
[07:44] <Baatti> Hi, I'm having issues with my repositories. I believe it is related to my dpkg of multiple architectures. I didn't have issues with my repos before this. Could anyone help?
[07:45] <kohvihoor> Baatti: what issues?
[07:45] <BillyZane> kohvihoor, i did it, i did ps -e|grep vlc afterwards, it's still running
[07:45] <Baatti> I have a red ! inside a Triangle on my status bar up top
[07:45] <ikonia> Baatti: there is only one architecture in a release
[07:45] <Baatti> It's telling me that the Update information is outdated
[07:45] <MonkeyDust> BillyZane  open System Monitor and kill the process there
[07:45] <BillyZane> kill -9 3486             riz@NightViper:~$ ps -e|grep vlc                 3486 ?        00:00:01 vlc <defunct>
[07:45] <ikonia> Baatti: why do you feel it's anything to do with multiple architectures
[07:45] <ikonia> BillyZane: it's zombied
[07:46] <KriShaNsin> hey if I blacklist uvcvideo , will it stay that way until i re edit the blacklist file?
[07:46] <resure> My Ubuntu 12.04.2 installation just freeze that I can't even restart PC using reset button. What logs should I check?
[07:46] <ikonia> resure: that suggests a hardware problem if the power button does nothing
[07:46] <Baatti> ikonia,  I didn't have issues with this before dpkg i386, but now it seems to be not finding the repos of some of the 64bit stuff, just a sec, let me give you an example of output from apt-get update
[07:46] <BillyZane> MonkeyDust, i have 2 system applications, system monitor and task manager, i've used both to try to kill it. it's visible on system monitor, however it's not visible in task manager
[07:47] <resure> ikonia, power button turn it off, reset doesn't work
[07:47] <ikonia> BillyZane: what ar eyou talking about dpkg i386
[07:47] <ikonia> BillyZane: oops, sorr, not you
[07:47] <Baatti> like this: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[07:47] <ikonia> Baatti what are you talking about "before dpkg i386"
[07:47] <Baatti> I did sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[07:47] <ikonia> Baatti: have you been messing with your sources.list
[07:47] <ikonia> Baatti: why did you do that !!!!
[07:47] <ikonia> Baatti: that's just going to screw things up
[07:48] <Baatti> to get a software that only supported i386, I couldn't install it without it. I saw it on the forums
[07:48] <BillyZane> MonkeyDust, it seems we're using some strong kill processes
[07:48] <MonkeyDust> BillyZane  try logout and back in
[07:49] <ikonia> Baatti: you're machine will be in a mess now
[07:49] <BillyZane> i know restarting the computer works, loging out and back in might work, haven't tried
[07:49] <ikonia> Baatti: you sound like you've also been messing with your sources.list
[07:49] <Baatti> uname -a shows me: 3.8.0-25-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP ....... x86-64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:49] <ikonia> Baatti: what does uname matter ?
[07:49] <ikonia> Baatti: we know it's 64bit and you've just added 32bit packages to it
[07:49] <Baatti> hrm, so what are my options to fix this, obviously reinstallation, but what other than that?
[07:50] <ikonia> Baatti: `to be honest, I'd re-install it to get it to a known good state
[07:50] <Baatti> hrm, can I re-install without formatting my drive?
[07:50] <ikonia> Baatti: so ?
[07:51] <ikonia> Baatti: oops, sorry
[07:51] <Baatti> I've disabled all of my added sources
[07:51] <BillyZane> MonkeyDust, well, i'm trying to log out atm
[07:51] <Baatti> these sources that it's pulling from are straight from installation
[07:51] <ikonia> Baatti: well you don't need to format but a re-install will overwrite it, but I would suggest doing a totally clean install
[07:51] <BillyZane> it's taking quite awhile
[07:51] <BillyZane> MonkeyDust, the messed up thing is vlc is the only media player i have that works half decent
[07:51] <ikonia> Baatti: bit late for that really
[07:52] <Baatti> so I can't just simply remove an architecture?
[07:52] <ikonia> Baatti: no
[07:52] <BillyZane> MonkeyDust, this all started after i installed boinc
[07:53] <BillyZane> and possibly caused by steam as well
[07:53] <BillyZane> i installed both at around the same time
[07:53] <BillyZane> i have boinc running at the moment, at %90
[07:54] <Baatti> the forums tell users to dpkg 64-bit architecture to get skype to work...
[07:54] <Baatti> why do the forums suggest this if using multiple architectures ruins a system?
[07:54] <kohvihoor> Baatti: um, doesn't skype multiarch just work?
[07:55] <kohvihoor> also, ubuntu should have multiarch support out of the box
[07:55] <Baatti> not sure, I didn't have an issue installing skype because I have a 64 bit cpu
[07:55] <OerHeks> Baati reply to that forum that the dpkg i386 is wrong, to help others.
[07:55] <kohvihoor> so there should be no need to manually enable an architecture
[07:56] <KM0201> skype 64bit should install the 32bit libraries automatically
[07:56] <KM0201> sorry, installing skype on 64bit..
[07:56] <ikonia> Baatti: why ar eyou blindly following commands on a forum when all the other forums you say tell you to do something different
[07:56] <BillyZane> dude, i can't even log out
[07:56] <ikonia> Baatti: there is official documentation in both the ubuntu website and the skype website on this
[07:56] <kohvihoor> BillyZane: reboot then
[07:56] <Baatti> ikonia it wasn't for skype XD
[07:57] <KM0201> ..
[07:57] <BillyZane> i don't want to have to keep rebooting to fix this recurring problem
[07:57] <ikonia> Baatti: then why are you referencing skype
[07:57] <Baatti> It's a newb mistake. I figured that since my software wouldn't install on a 64-bit, because I saw instructions on adding achitecture for other issues, I'd try it.
[07:57] <ikonia> Baatti: surly just fixing the "real" problem rather than referencing skype should be your concern
[07:57] <KM0201> Baatti: what are you trying to install on 32bit?
[07:57] <KM0201> sorry, on 64bit
[07:57] <Baatti> my 'real' problem is that apt-get update is nto working
[07:57] <b1z24rR0n3> hi all
[07:58] <b1z24rR0n3> anyone still use 11.10 ?
[07:58] <KM0201> b1tbkt: natty is eol
[07:58] <KM0201> !eol > b1tbkt
[07:58] <KM0201> oops.
[07:58] <KM0201> !eol > b1z24rR0n3
[07:59] <KM0201> Baatti: so what do you mean "it's not working"
[07:59] <KM0201> what happens when you type sudo apt-get update
[07:59] <Baatti> when I run sudo apt-get update I get this message: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[08:00] <cfhowlett> Baatti, not good ...
[08:00] <Baatti> yeah what's up with this?
[08:00] <KM0201> !pastebin | Baatti pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:00] <cfhowlett> Baatti, "wrong source list"  says it all
[08:01] <Baatti> perhaps I have multiple sources.list files?
[08:01] <OerHeks> Baatti, you messed up with the "dpkg i386"  command, time to reinstall
[08:01] <KM0201> did you read it?.. you havea malformed entry
[08:01] <KM0201> pastebin your .sources.list and we can figure it out.
[08:01] <ikonia> Baatti: I've told you already !
[08:01] <Baatti> ok, just a sec
[08:01] <ikonia> Baatti: 1.) you have messed up your repos 2.) you have added 32bit architechture to your repos - so it will screw your system
[08:02] <KM0201> hmm, i thought he just instaled the 32bit libraries? the "ia32libs".. or some such?
[08:02] <ikonia> Baatti: the best option is for you to backup your data - re-install ubuntu with the correct arch only, then pay more attention to what's going on after restoring your data
[08:02] <ikonia> KM0201: no, he added 32bit architechture
[08:02] <KM0201> oh well he's screwed
[08:02] <KM0201> he needs to reinstall
[08:02] <KM0201> Baatti: forget it.. you need to reinstall
[08:02] <cfhowlett> Baatti, I've got a link to rebuild the default repos source list ... wait one
[08:03] <dfaaaaa> system restore
[08:03] <Baatti> this is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/5835496/
[08:03] <KM0201> he'll spend more time trying to fix this than just reinstalling
[08:03] <Baatti> no
[08:03] <cfhowlett> Baatti, here tis  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[08:03] <Baatti> I want to learn how to fix it though
[08:03] <Baatti> thank you cfhowlett
[08:03] <AleXa> I cant part the channel, again. Please, somebody kicks me! Using mobile internet, paid per mb
[08:03] <ikonia> Baatti: you need to re-install, that's how you fix it
[08:03] <Baatti> reinstall is weak sauce. Linux is powerful. I want to learn to use the force
[08:03] <KM0201> Baatti: you need to reinstall.. thats how you fix it.
[08:03] <ikonia> Baatti: no - it's not a weak
[08:03] <AleXa> I cant part the channel, again. Please, somebody kicks me! Using mobile internet, paid per mb
[08:03] <KM0201> you screwd it up.. thats why you need to reinstall.
[08:03] <ikonia> Baatti: it's a mature response to a messed up problem
[08:04] <dfaaaaa> so ubuntu doesn't seem like an intelligent os
[08:04] <ikonia> dfaaaaa: well, you're wrong, but ok
[08:04] <Baatti> well what about what cfhowlett  is showing me?
[08:04] <cfhowlett> dfaaaaa, it's as intelligent as its user is
[08:04] <dfaaaaa> hpw can it allow a 32bit app instllaed on a 64bit os ?
[08:04] <ikonia> Baatti: that file re-generates source.list files
[08:04] <ikonia> dfaaaaa: because the user told it to do it, and forced it
[08:04] <KM0201> Baatti: still not going to give you any joy.
[08:04] <KM0201> your problem is not a source list problem
[08:04] <gribouille> hi
[08:05] <Baatti> that's what the error message says though
[08:05] <gribouille> what is the best backup tool?
[08:05] <cfhowlett> gribouille, greetings
[08:05] <BillyZane> man, how can vlc and parole media players both be broken
[08:05] <cfhowlett> !backup
[08:05] <KM0201> BillyZane: graphics card
[08:05] <KM0201> ?
[08:06] <MonkeyDust> gribouille  rsync -a --delete         is fast
[08:06] <BillyZane> KM0201, oh shit
[08:07] <BillyZane> KM0201, you're right. i recently installed a new video driver
[08:07] <Kartagis> http://paste.debian.net/13871/ <--- what does this mean?
[08:07] <dfaaaaa> ikonia , no os should allow such thing from happening it shouw warn but totally refuse any installation of 32bit app
[08:07] <KM0201> BillyZane: ... i figured
[08:07] <Kartagis> !language | BillyZane
[08:07] <dfaaaaa> if it doesn't support 32bit
[08:07] <BillyZane> sorry Kartagis
[08:07] <KM0201> dfaaaaa: its not the 32bit app that caused the problem (i have 32bit apps on my 64bit system.. no prob at all)
[08:07] <BillyZane> KM0201, i recently installed nvidia 304 i believe
[08:07] <KM0201> he installed 32bit ARCHITECTURE
[08:07] <ikonia> dfaaaaa: it does support 32bit - just not in the way the user wanted it to
[08:07] <BillyZane> KM0201, it was done automatically
[08:07] <ikonia> dfaaaaa: again - please stop making comments you do'nt understand
[08:08] <KM0201> BillyZane: well, i'd say thats wher eyou need to start
[08:08] <KM0201> i wish OMV's channel was this lively... lol
[08:08] <gribouille> does someone use bacula?
[08:08] <BillyZane> ok, ty KM0201
[08:15] <Baatti> well I tried the regenerated sources.list but I'm still having the same issue. I guess I'll resort to reinstallation. I officially broke myBuntu :(
[08:15] <cfhowlett> Baatti, nice thing is ... you'll only do it THAT way ONCE ...
[08:15] <Baatti> heh
[08:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> cfhowlett: whazzat? I just came on channel :P
[08:17] <cfhowlett> ntzrmtthihu777, someone broked'd their 'buntu ...
[08:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> cfhowlett: sounds about right XD
[08:17] <Baatti> thanks for the support, everyone!
[08:17] <cfhowlett> Baatti, best of luck and enjoy your fresh install
[08:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> you know what, nevermind. its too damn late for me to give support XD
[08:19] <darkelfjuggalo> Would it be possible to compile from source the package ´webcam-server
[08:19] <blazemore> A moment's silence for our fallen friend http://reader.google.com
[08:19] <darkelfjuggalo> into raring
[08:20] <willybilly0101> yeah, who will follow your RSS and record them for the govt from now?
[08:20] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: what are your current scaling options in CCC?
[08:21] <nurow2> hmmmm
[08:21] <KyouReeUs4nfo> in Catalyst?
[08:22] <KyouReeUs4nfo> you said it works till reboot,correct?
[08:22] <nurow2> it is set to 0%. (all the way to overscan)(
[08:22] <KyouReeUs4nfo> and the objective is to keep it there, correct?
[08:22] <madrat> hey guys
[08:22] <nurow2> correct. If I reboot, the box the underscan returns, even though it will claim it is set to 0%
[08:22] <madrat> I'm trying to install libssl0.9.8 64bit
[08:22] <nurow2> if I move the bar down and back up again, it fixes it
[08:22] <madrat> any help?
[08:23] <KyouReeUs4nfo> did you see if you can save a profile in Catalyst with current settings?
[08:23] <OerHeks> darkelfjuggalo, you can try, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webcam-server/0.50-4
[08:23] <darkelfjuggalo> I want to be able to broadcast my webcam through my webbrowser in Ubuntu 13.04...the only package I can find that allows that is webcam-server, but there is only a lucid compatible package for this....
[08:24] <darkelfjuggalo> Thank you Oerheks
[08:24] <nurow2> I don't see anything about saving or profiles
[08:24] <Kartagis> http://paste.debian.net/13871/ <--- what does this mean?
[08:25] <OerHeks> darkelfjuggalo, else you can try this recent post > http://www.hackourlife.com/diy-webcam-server-or-home-security-monitoring-setup-using-beagleboard-xm-running-ubuntu/
[08:25] <cfhowlett> darkelfjuggalo, as a live stream?  or what?
[08:26] <darkelfjuggalo> Yes, cfhowlett, as a live stream
[08:26] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/pages/crossfirex-app-profiles.aspx
[08:27] <madrat> I'm trying to install libssl0.9.8 64bit
[08:27] <somsip> madrat: isn't release above 1.0 now?
[08:27] <nurow2> hmmm, this is windows?
[08:27] <somsip> !info openssl
[08:27] <madrat> somsip, huh?
[08:28] <rsvp> !info mp3splt-gtk
[08:28] <KyouReeUs4nfo> yes, it is, my bad
[08:28] <somsip> madrat: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[08:28] <KyouReeUs4nfo> looking
[08:28] <madrat> 12.04
[08:28] <somsip> !info openssl precise
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> !info libssl0.9.8 raring
[08:28] <somsip> ActionParsnip: ah - I thought it was part of openssl - my bad
[08:29] <rsvp> !info jpilot
[08:29] <Darkyyy> Guys i really need your help installing ubuntu
[08:29] <madrat> what does this mean then?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> madrat: sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.8
[08:29] <Darkyyy> for some reason my mobo dosent let me boot from usb and my cdrom is false
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Darkyyy: what are you having issue with
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Darkyyy: do you have a floppy drive?
[08:29] <Daughain> Is there some thing like jpilot for webos?
[08:30] <Darkyyy> no
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: webos isnt supported here
[08:30] <Darkyyy> boot is just stalling whenever i try to boot from usb flash
[08:30] <k1l> Daughain: better ask webos support for webos related questions. to find the channels use alis
[08:30] <MonkeyDust> Darkyyy  is the iso ok, did you md5 check it?
[08:30] <Darkyyy> tried the flash drive using vmware player and it does work
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Darkyyy: then you can either grab a cd drive from another PC, or pull out the drive and put it in an OK system, install it then transfer it back to the system
[08:30] <Daughain> ActionParsnip, I k now, I saw the post on jpilot, which was for the old palm OS, so I asked.
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Darkyyy: or setup a PXE server
[08:31] <nurow2> KyouReeUs4nfo, thanks for all of the help, but i need to go to sleep now
[08:31] <darkelfjuggalo> to the person that sent me to hackourlife...I like what this offers but Iḿ unsure itś what i am looking for
[08:31] <nurow2> if you have any other ideas, could you PM them?
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: this is Ubuntu support only, try a palm based channel
[08:31] <nurow2> I'll leave my computer on
[08:31] <madrat> ActionParsnip, that only gives me the i386 one
[08:31] <k1l> !alis | Daughain
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> madrat: your OS is multiarch, does it not work?
[08:31] <Daughain> I'm in the webos channel.
[08:31] <zipy> .
[08:31] <KyouReeUs4nfo> ok
[08:32] <Darkyyy> can i install ubuntu after wubi
[08:32] <madrat> it does not want to install the 64bit one
[08:32] <Daughain> And wow.
[08:32] <ikonia> Darkyyy: wubi installs ubuntu, it's a container for ubuntu (paraphrasing)
[08:32] <MonkeyDust> Darkyyy  don't, wubi is not a real installation
[08:32] <Darkyyy> i know
[08:32] <Darkyyy> but maybe after i install wubi maybe i can turn it into a full installation
[08:33] <Darkyyy> like installing it thru it
[08:33] <k1l> Darkyyy: no
[08:33] <ikonia> Darkyyy: not really very easy
[08:33] <k1l> that is not possible
[08:33] <theadmin> Darkyyy: Not worth trying...
[08:33] <Darkyyy> actually i'm PC tech but i'm too lazy to replace the dvd rom lol
[08:33] <gribouille> does someone use rsnapshot?
[08:34] <varunendra> Darkyyy, use live usb ??
[08:34] <stefano> hello
[08:34] <Darkyyy> my mobo cant boot from any usb
[08:34] <stefano> I'm trying to install firmaware-b43-installer for my b43 wireless
[08:34] <Darkyyy> dunno what happend
[08:34] <stefano> but it return error
[08:35] <theadmin> Darkyyy: Big deal, use plop :P
[08:35] <blazemore> Darkyyy: I really don't recommend Wubi; If you want to take Ubuntu for a spin use a Live USB with persistance, or just play in a VM for a while
[08:35] <Darkyyy> tried using SARDU
[08:35] <blazemore> Is there a list of !commands that are available?
[08:35] <stefano> lwfinger.com is unreachable.... what can I do?
[08:35] <k1l> Darkyyy: try the bios settings and try another usb port
[08:35] <blazemore> in this channel I mean (ubottu)
[08:35] <Darkyyy> i want ubuntu 64 fully installed just cant get to it
[08:35] <theadmin> Darkyyy: http://download.plop.at/files/bootmngr/plpbt-5.0.14.zip - run "install_to_bootmenu.bat" (or something) as administrator, load it, then it'll let you boot from USB
[08:36] <blazemore> theadmin: I'm going to remember that one, seems useful
[08:36] <theadmin> blazemore: Some call it a "BIOS extender", lets you boot from any partition/drive quite easily, or chainload another bootloader
[08:36] <varunendra> Darkyyy, there is also the option of network install, although I never tried it myself :P
[08:37] <Darkyyy> i have plop
[08:38] <theadmin> varunendra: Well, network install would still need a CD/USB to boot that from
[08:38] <theadmin> varunendra: (or maybe PXE-boot but that's overly complicated, would need a second machine too)
[08:38] <stefano> any idea for firmware-b43-installer failing contacting lwfinger.com?
[08:39] <blazemore> Oh Gods :D :D
[08:39] <varunendra> theadmin, the netboot intro says - "if you have an old machine with a non-bootable CD-ROM..."
[08:39] <theadmin> varunendra: heh, good point I guess -- you'd still need a second one to load that image from.
[08:40] <varunendra> but yeah, getting a cd/dvd is much better & easier :D
[08:40] <stefano> ok, it works now :-)
[08:41] <blazemore> stefano: Must have just been a small intermittent network problem on your end, or that site
[08:42] <varunendra> theadmin, do you know that slax iso has ready to use pxe mode? I wonder if the image can be replaced in it to take advantage of it. :)
[08:43] <theadmin> varunendra: Ubuntu provides a mini.iso which will run the netinstaller, too... But you still need to burn the ISO somewhere :/
[08:43] <varunendra> :P
[08:44] <Darkyyy> irc is actually ABC
[08:45] <Darkyyy> All Brains Connected :D
[08:45] <varunendra> Darkyyy, sometimes I feel A-Z ;)
[08:45] <varunendra> okay, p,q or something, not Z
[08:46] <Darkyyy> i feel like ZZzzzzZZZzzz...
[08:46] <shinao1> Hi I've been trying to setup 13.04 as an L2TP/IPSec VPN Client but it doesn't work... does 13.04 support IPSec/L2TP tunnelling? I keep getting this error: ERROR: asynchronous network error report on eth0 (sport=4500) for message to <IP_Address> port 18547, complainant <IP_Address>: Connection refused [errno 111, origin ICMP type 3 code 3 (not authenticated)]
[08:47] <shinao1> And it works from my cyanomod tablet!
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: did you obfuscate the ip address or did you literally type '<ip address>'?
[08:49] <shinao1> ActionParsnip: obfuscation
[08:49] <blazemore> shinao1: "I think that 'not authenticated' is the relevant part of that error message - clearly some sort of handshake is ocurring
[08:49] <shinao1> Oh it is authenticated AFAIK
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: just checking
[08:50] <shinao1> Thanks
[08:50] <shinao1> I'm following this guide here: http://wiki.l2tpipsecvpn.tuxfamily.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: http://forum.ipfire.org/index.php?topic=2285.0
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: http://www.ipcops.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=17069
[08:51] <shinao1> Thanks.. checking them out.. what's in em?
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: http://code.google.com/p/vigor2130/issues/detail?id=30
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: web pages....
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: ;)
[08:53] <shinao1> Hmm.. not ubuntu relevant as far as I can see.. I built the VPN server off of a RHEL box, and I have successful connects from an Android tablet, MacOSX and Fedora
[08:54] <shinao1> Only 13.04 is giving me problems and I read somewhere that its possible that IPSec isnt in the kernel anymore
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: try a Precise liveCD to test
[08:54] <shinao1> Ubuntu kernel that is
[08:54] <shinao1> Unfortunately once I upgrade I dont go back
[08:54] <shinao1> :)
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: reread what I wrote....liveCD...?
[08:55] <shinao1> I read it clearly
[08:55] <shinao1> I guess I'll be switching to Fedora then... a pity
[08:56] <shinao1> I really like ubuntu
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: so if you test the live CD, needing no sort of 'going back', if it works there then it is a bug
[08:56] <shinao1> I dont have the kit, and I live in a bandwidth poor area.
[08:56] <cfhowlett> shinao1, torrent ...
[08:56] <shinao1> Have to go and find it
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: not got an old CD around, or a pal with one or more bandwidth
[08:57] <shinao1> off of someone else's connection
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: could use an SSH tunnel instead :)
[08:57] <shinao1> Yeah I have PCI-DSS exceptions with that
[09:01] <emite> damn, you guys recommended midori for LXDE, but so many webpages render wrong in it...
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> emite: who does....i don't
[09:01] <emite> looks like I'll be stuck with firefox for the time being.
[09:01] <emite> well I was asking for a lightweight webbrowser for LXDE
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> emite: arora is light
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> emite: iceweasel
[09:01] <blazemore> emite: Dillo is crazy light but no features to speak of
[09:15] <exported> hi can anyone explain how this stuff works lol how could i get to the channel #linuxmint-chat or #linuxmint-help ??
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> !mint
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> exported: you will need to connect to irc.spotchat.org instead of irc.freenode.net
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> exported: you can then connect to the channel
[09:16] <exported> ahh thank you ActionParsnip! :) thank you very much
[09:16] <mndo> hi, i am trying to adding access to a host  folder on an guest I am getting this error when trying to start the guest: Virtio-9p Failed to initialize fs-driver with id:fsdev-fs0 and export path: <my host folder>
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> mndo: i'd ask in #vbox too
[09:17] <FreeNix> hi
[09:17] <mndo> I am using ubuntu 12.04.2 as host and kvm+libvirt for virtualization
[09:17] <FreeNix> I have downloaded an iso image and im trying to create a usb live stick with it...how do i do this?
[09:18] <cfhowlett> FreeNix, unetbootin or ubuntu startupdiskcreator will do the job
[09:18] <llutz> FreeNix: or cat, dd
[09:18] <blazemore> FreeNix: If you're on Windows, my favourite tool is Linux Live USB http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[09:18] <FreeNix> im on ubuntu
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> FreeNix: unetbootin
[09:19] <blazemore> FreeNix: There's lots of info on this wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[09:19] <cfhowlett> FreeNix, system>startupdiskcreator
[09:19] <varunendra> FreeNix, then use the inbuilt startupDiskCreator - the best for you
[09:20] <FreeNix> ta
[09:20] <Daughain> How can I get a java program to launch on boot in 12.04
[09:21] <cfhowlett> !java|Daughain,
[09:22] <Daughain> cfhowlett, I have it running, I just need to know how to get it to load and run on boot without me touching the machine.
[09:22] <GameMasterSahil> Hello
[09:22] <cfhowlett> GameMasterSahil, greetings
[09:23] <varunendra> Daughain, how do you currently run it? I guess add the same command to /etc/rc.local ??
[09:23] <GameMasterSahil> My problem is when I tries to run my file using /.Filename, it gives me an error that is 'No such file or directory'
[09:23] <nweb546786754> Hello. I am using Linux Mint 15. Because of kernel bugs I removed old kernels from my /boot partition and installed 3.10. Now I am getting "kernel panic" error after reboot, it says that it is unable to mount root. My /home is also encrypted, so currently I am using Ubuntu from a USB key. Please help!
[09:24] <bordism> Hi all
[09:24] <GameMasterSahil> I am using Ubuntu Linux
[09:24] <Daughain> varunendra, I click on it in nautilus.
[09:24] <blazemore> nweb546786754: THis is an Ubuntu support channel
[09:24] <nweb546786754> I know\
[09:24] <blazemore> nweb546786754: You shouldn't have removed the old ones before making sure the new one worked
[09:24] <cfhowlett> !mint|nweb546786754,
[09:24] <nweb546786754> blazemore: but Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu]
[09:24] <blazemore> nweb546786754: :o is it?
[09:24] <bordism> I want to install Ubuntu on my ASUS N61J. I have an Ubuntu CD, trouble is, I don't know how to boot from CD? Any clues? I've tried pressing ESC, F8, F12, DEL on boot but it doesn't work ....
[09:25] <nweb546786754> I did not have enough space on the partition, blazemore
[09:25] <blazemore> bordism: Do you know how to enter the BIOS?
[09:25] <cfhowlett> nweb546786754, true and it's not supported HERE.  they have their own support channel.
[09:25] <bordism> blazemore: nope, that's thr trouble
[09:25] <DJones> nweb546786754: Mint has its own support channels, please see the information that Ubottu just gve you
[09:25] <cfhowlett> bordism, look up the specific info on ASUS's site or in their user documentation
[09:25] <blazemore> bordism: It'll say in the manual somewhere
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> bordism: press ESC when the ASUS splash screen shows and read
[09:26] <nweb546786754> okay, thx
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> bordism: or disable quiet boot in bios
[09:26] <blazemore> nweb546786754: My advice, though, would be to boot from a liveCD, back-up your data and reinstall. Nothing quite like a freshly installed Mint 15 anyway :)
[09:26] <GameMasterSahil> Hello, I am using Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS x86, when I tries to run my file in Terminal Window using /.Filename, it gives me an error that is 'No such file or directory', I used cd command before it.
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> bordism: try ENTER as well: http://support.asus.com/Troubleshooting/detail.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=N61Jq&p=3&s=217&os=&hashedid=ZfpnPRZ5UxVOtrHJ&no=1775
[09:27] <GameMasterSahil> How I can solve it?
[09:27] <blazemore> GameMasterSahil: Does the file exist?
[09:27] <cfhowlett> GameMasterSahil, one: 10.04 is end of life and no longer supported... TWO: see one
[09:27] <GameMasterSahil> Yes Blazemore
[09:27] <bordism> ActionParsnip: ok
[09:27] <llutz> GameMasterSahil: ./filename
[09:27] <blazemore> GameMasterSahil: Does it show up when you type "ls" before trying to execute it with ./FileName ?
[09:27] <GameMasterSahil> Yes
[09:27] <nweb546786754> blazemore: thats what I want to avoid, though... my home is encrypted so I dont know ho to access , my data anyway
[09:27] <GameMasterSahil> It shows with /ls
[09:27] <blazemore> GameMasterSahil: Don't forget in Linux, filenames are case-sensitive, that is, FileName is not the same as filename
[09:27] <GameMasterSahil> I know
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> bordism: I dont own the system, i just searched the web....
[09:28] <blazemore> GameMasterSahil: Also, if you're trying to execute it as a program, you need to run "chmod +x filename" first
[09:28] <GameMasterSahil> I used that
[09:28] <llutz> GameMasterSahil: "file filename" says what
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: is the OS a desktop based OS? with mouse pointers and nautilus file browser?
[09:28] <GameMasterSahil> VCMPServer: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped
[09:28] <GameMasterSahil> No it's not desktop based
[09:29] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nweb546786754: Is your /home on a different partition?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: so where does 'terminal window' come from....
[09:29] <GameMasterSahil> No  Kyou it's not
[09:29] <histo> ActionParsnip: gnome-terminal
[09:29] <SDIS> a
[09:29] <blazemore> GameMasterSahil: Is it possible the program is actually executing sucesfully, but it's the program itsself which is giving you the "No such file" error? What is the nature of the program anyway?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> histo: yes, in a desktop.....on lucid.....
[09:29] <histo> ActionParsnip: lxterminal
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: what is the output of: uname -a
[09:29] <GameMasterSahil> No
[09:30] <GameMasterSahil> Linux mjcj63g57g 2.6.32-22-server #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 3 20:38:33 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:30] <KyouReeUs4nfo> I would back it up then (sudo ecryptfs-recover-private)!
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: the binary is 32bit and your server is 64bit
[09:30] <GameMasterSahil> No it's 32 only
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: you will need the 64bit version
[09:30] <GameMasterSahil> Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS x86
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: or 32bit server
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: or a chroot
[09:30] <GameMasterSahil> Binary too 32 bit
[09:30] <blazemore> GameMasterSahil: Are you saying uname -a is *lying* to you?
[09:31] <nweb546786754> KyouReeUs4nfo: I am not sure
[09:31] <GameMasterSahil> IDK what but it's 32 bit
[09:31] <blazemore> GameMasterSahil: it says in uname -a "x86_64"
[09:31] <llutz> GameMasterSahil: x86_64  is 64Bit, stop trolling
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: yes but your OS is 64bit, so it won't run
[09:31] <GameMasterSahil> LOL
[09:31] <GameMasterSahil> Yes it is
[09:31] <GameMasterSahil> Saying
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: if you use Precise, it is multiarch and will run
[09:32] <GameMasterSahil> But my Host says 32 bit
[09:32] <GameMasterSahil> What ActionParsnip?
[09:32] <blazemore> What do you mean bu your host?
[09:32] <GameMasterSahil> Nothing
[09:33] <blazemore> Ignored
[09:33] <GameMasterSahil> Nah
[09:33] <GameMasterSahil> I said wrong thing
[09:33] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nweb546786754: sudo fdisk -l will show you your partitions and df -h will show if your home is on a separate partition
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: your uname -a    states x86_64 which means it is a 64bit kernel
[09:33] <bordism> lol, I found the problem -- the keyboard is fucked
[09:33] <histo> !language | bordism
[09:33] <GameMasterSahil> Lol
[09:33] <bordism> works using an external keyboard
[09:33] <GameMasterSahil> ActionParsnip
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: your file command outputted 'ELF 32-bit' so is 32bit
[09:34] <GameMasterSahil> It is
[09:34] <GameMasterSahil> So how I can run it
[09:34] <bordism> ok later girls
[09:34] <SDIS> run what?
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: you can't, your kernel is 64bit
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: to run it you need a 32bit server OS
[09:35] <GameMasterSahil> Hmm
[09:35] <GameMasterSahil> Ok
[09:35] <GameMasterSahil> But will it run succesfully in it
[09:35] <llutz> GameMasterSahil: "lsb_release -sc" output?
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: no idea, but its what it needs
[09:35] <GameMasterSahil> lucid
[09:35] <SDIS> precise
[09:36] <GameMasterSahil> lsb_release -sc it's output is 'lucid'
[09:36] <llutz> GameMasterSahil: no multiarch then, ia32libs maybe
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: install 32bit Precise and install the app, it will work
[09:37] <GameMasterSahil> Ok, let me try
[09:39] <MickS> "you need 32-bit os" ... is this for real or trolling?
[09:39] <nweb546786754> KyouReeUs4nfo: http://pastebin.com/AaCmiZH7 -- here is the output - I dont know what it means though :/
[09:40] <GameMasterSahil> real
[09:40] <DJones> nweb546786754: As you were told earlier, Mint is not supported in this channel
[09:40] <sam323> hi im trying to get imagewriter under ubuntu to work, it keeps asking for my password i put it in and it says wrong password
[09:41] <MickS> GameMasterSahil: you need 32-bit libs, not a 32-bit os. 32-bit programs can run just fine on 64-bit os. No need to reinstall your server...
[09:42] <zipy> sam113101, r u logged in with a user that is in sudo list?
[09:42] <GameMasterSahil> So how I can change to 32-bit libs?
[09:42] <MickS> the file not found is most likely a library it wants to include which isn't installed
[09:42] <MickS> see which libs the program needs with:  ldd filename
[09:42] <sam323> no idea
[09:43] <SDIS> what is the best way to learn  "Linux Shell"
[09:43] <cfhowlett__> SDIS, see "linux from scratch"
[09:43] <zipy> sam323, but u got ur root password?
[09:43] <nweb546786754> DJones: right, I know
[09:44] <sam323> yes
[09:44] <zipy> hm then try to run from terminal
[09:44] <zipy> su
[09:44] <k1l> SDIS: just use it and learn what you need
[09:44] <zipy> enter root pw
[09:45] <zipy> then start imagewriter in terminal
[09:45] <sam323> what do i type in terminal
[09:45] <zipy> su
[09:45] <sam323> ok
[09:45] <k1l> !sudo | sam323 zipy
[09:45] <k1l> !root
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> zipy: there is no root password in ubuntu, use:   sudo -i
[09:45] <GameMasterSahil> Micks: Wait a second MickS I am restarting my system.
[09:45] <zipy> he tried already
[09:45] <zipy> i think the guy askes for pw of the active user who is not in sudo list
[09:45] <zipy> guy = gui lol
[09:46] <sam323> sam@sam-System-Product-Name:~$ su
[09:46] <sam323> Password:
[09:46] <sam323> su: Authentication failure
[09:46] <MickS> grin @ root explanation ;-)
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> zipy: then he's going to need to su to a user who can, then run:  sudo -i
[09:46] <k1l> to change to root is not the ubuntu way.
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> sam323: there is no root password, what zipy is advising wont work
[09:46] <sam323> ok
[09:46] <blazemore> sam323: If you're dead-set on opening a root shell you can do "sudo -s"
[09:47] <zipy> thats the same ^^
[09:47] <sam323> root@sam-System-Product-Name:~#
[09:47] <k1l> sam323: why is your user not in the sudoers list?
[09:47] <sam323> no idea
[09:47] <zipy> ye
[09:47] <k1l> are you the admin?
[09:47] <sam323> yeah
[09:47] <k1l> is this a server?
[09:47] <sam323> no desktop
[09:47] <k1l> so what did you do there?
[09:47] <sam323> how do i run the imagewriter program now im root?
[09:47] <zipy> now start imagewriter
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> sudo -i   is advised as the user's profile is still in use, -s uses root's
[09:48] <k1l> why would you ever run programs as root?
[09:48] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nweb456786754: I would recommend backing up your data if you could by running sudo ecryptfs-recover-private (which will search and mount your private home directory provided you still remember your login passphrase) and then try a reinstall or continue using USB and remount your home and make it writable (sudo mount -o remount,rw location-of-your-home-in-tmp)
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> k1l: ps -ef | grep root       lots do
[09:49] <k1l> ActionParsnip: i meant gui programs, and this was a rethorical question
[09:49] <The-Dark-Master> augh
[09:49] <k1l> a desktop user should ne be in contact with "getting root" so there was something other wrong on his system
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> k1l: copying files to /var/www   run nautilus as root for access is one I can think of
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> k1l: editting config files in /etc like smb.conf
[09:50] <k1l> like: why does he have a user that is not in sudoers list
[09:50] <k1l> ActionParsnip: /var/www on a desktop?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> k1l: sure, why not...?
[09:51] <k1l> ActionParsnip: i see your point, but again: there is something other wrong with his system. that should be solved
[09:52] <Kartagis> why would I be getting "Couldn't upload the file, check your internet connection" when I drag and drop an image to "Drop to share" on 13.04?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> k1l: if users like to edit in GUI aps like gedit, they should have that freedom, and they do
[09:53] <k1l> ActionParsnip: "do everything as root" is not the ubuntu way. so advising this points leads into the wrong direction, imho
[09:53] <MickS> yeah, and if people want to run 32-bit programs they need to be able to reinstall the server on 32-bits too!
[09:53] <GameMasterSahil> Micks: Here is the output of ldd filename:  not a dynamic executable
[09:54] <MickS> GameMasterSahil: file filename said it was dynamic with shared libs... are you talking about the same file?
[09:54] <GameMasterSahil> Micks: Yes
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> k1l: but sometimes its needed, especially for files owned by root:root
[09:55] <GameMasterSahil> Micks: Output of File Filename:
[09:55] <GameMasterSahil> VCMPServer: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[09:55] <The-Dark-Master> i broke ubuntu
[09:56] <Daughain> lol
[09:56] <cfhowlett_> !details|The-Dark-Master,
[09:56] <k1l> ActionParsnip: i know, but the problem from that user is that he is not in the sudoers list. the others is just a symptome.
[09:56] <The-Dark-Master> login info was unavailable
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> k1l: oh yes that trumps everything :)
[09:56] <MickS> GameMasterSahil: see, it does say 'dynamically linked (uses shared libs)'. So    ldd VCMPServer    should give something back
[09:57] <GameMasterSahil> Micks: Yes but's its giving nothing just a error
[09:57] <GameMasterSahil> Micks: Huh, I am very much confused with this matter
[09:57] <The-Dark-Master> and i only had it installed a couple hours
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master: can you logon as guest?
[09:58] <The-Dark-Master> yes but it crashes
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master: can you boot an older kernel?
[09:59] <The-Dark-Master> ?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master: hold shift at boot, select an older kernel
[09:59] <The-Dark-Master> it ran fine till i activated auto logon
[10:00] <GameMasterSahil> Micks: So any idea MickS?
[10:00] <MickS> GameMasterSahil: install the 32-bit libraries and see if it will fire up with that
[10:00] <MickS> the package is called ia32-libs
[10:01] <The-Dark-Master> me?
[10:01] <GameMasterSahil> Micks: May I get the link of the package?
[10:01] <GameMasterSahil> Direct link
[10:01] <MrQuist> Hey guys
[10:01] <MickS> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[10:01] <MrQuist> I'm having external-monitor issues :P
[10:01] <MrQuist> Ah, thanks MickS
[10:02] <MrQuist> Anyway: Im on a Lenovo ThinkPad T530 @ ubuntu 12.10. My external monitor works fine over VGA, but thats blurry. So i have this cable: Mini DP -> DP -> Into my monitor
[10:02] <MrQuist> Now, all i can see is the "Ubuntu" logo, as if my laptop is booting
[10:03] <MrQuist> In the system > displays however, is only my laptop screen. Not the external one.
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master: if you get to the login screen and hit CTRL+ALT+F1 you can login there and edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf You will need to comment out the 'autologin-user' line, like here http://askubuntu.com/questions/106428/how-to-disable-automatic-login
[10:03] <MrQuist> How can i make this work? What could be wrong?
[10:03] <The-Dark-Master> yeah, that lost me
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master: you can edit it with nano which is a CLI text editor
[10:03] <The-Dark-Master> wordpad?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master: pressing CTRL_ALT+F1 lost you?
[10:04] <The-Dark-Master> the other stuff did
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master: then run:   sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf   and make the changes, press CTRL+X, Press Y, Press ENTER
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master: then run:  sudo reboot
[10:04] <The-Dark-Master> ok
[10:05] <mapp>  hm
[10:05] <The-Dark-Master> yep, no boot
[10:05] <The-Dark-Master> oh krap
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master: then hold SHIFT at boot, select recovery mode and select root, you can make the changes there
[10:06] <The-Dark-Master-> damn char limit
[10:06] <The-Dark-Master-> im using a PSP here so
[10:06] <Newb101> is it possible to install ubuntu without the unity for example to have it just with openbox?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Newb101: sure, I do that
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Newb101: install ubuntu minimal then install openbox
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Newb101: or install xubuntu and install openbox
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> <3 openbox
[10:07] <Newb101> nice
[10:07] <The-Dark-Master-> i dont think my acer likes ubuntu
[10:07] <cfhowlett_> The-Dark-Master-, what are the specs?
[10:08] <The-Dark-Master-> i give, im trying lubuntu
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: its a simple text file edit
[10:08] <The-Dark-Master-> 1.6GHZ amd and 4 GB ram
[10:08] <k1l> !lubuntu | Newb101
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> The-Dark-Master-  I have a 4 year old acer (without hdmi :( ), works like a charm
[10:08] <cfhowlett_> The-Dark-Master-, or xubuntu ... both are optimized for older/lower spec machines ...
[10:08] <Newb101> nice
[10:09] <maroloccio> un commento: LXDE non è "estremamente" più leggera di GNOME, almeno non gnome-session-fallback (i.e. classic / gnome-2 / etc)
[10:09] <maroloccio> ho misurato.. non è "estremamente"
[10:09] <cfhowlett_> !es|maroloccio,
[10:09] <maroloccio> sorry guys
[10:09]  * cfhowlett_ ... or is that Italian?
[10:09] <Daughain> I have 12.04 on a T60, no issues here.
[10:10] <maroloccio> !it|maroloccio
[10:10] <The-Dark-Master-> this is a $20 acer, she had issues
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> I have a single core sempron 1.6Ghz w/ 2Gb RAM and nvidia 6150 onboard, works great
[10:10] <cfhowlett_> The-Dark-Master-, well, hey if you paid only $20 for her, you did good
[10:10] <Newb101> say for example ubuntu minimal vs arch linux are the architectures the same
[10:10] <The-Dark-Master-> i gotta upgrade my cpu
[10:11] <Newb101> ubuntu is .deb
[10:11] <The-Dark-Master-> she needed a new screen
[10:11] <The-Dark-Master-> i need a 64 bit os
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: why do you need 64bit OS?
[10:12] <k1l> The-Dark-Master-: is the CPU 64bit capable?
[10:12] <The-Dark-Master-> she runs like shit on a 32bit
[10:12] <The-Dark-Master-> she came with 64 bit factory
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: 64bit isn't outright faster
[10:12] <The-Dark-Master-> but i have access to all my ram
[10:13] <The-Dark-Master-> not 2 out of 4 gb
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> Newb101: the install method is similar in the minimal
[10:13] <maroloccio> i just wanted to say that it does not seem to me that lxde is "extremely" more lightweight
[10:13] <k1l> The-Dark-Master-: ubuntu uses PAE kernels, which use all the ram, too
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: the kernel is PAE, so can access up to 64Gb RAM
[10:13] <TopGear> How do I remove a folder via SSH from an external HD? "sudo rm -rf" gives me "can't remove, folder is not empty." If I try to access the folder, it gives me a input/output error.
[10:13] <maroloccio> i measured Vs gnome-session-fallback and, to be honest, it's "more lw".. but not "extremely so".
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> TopGear: is the file system read only?
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: basically, your 'need' doesn't seem very justified
[10:14] <llutz> maroloccio: some urban legends never die
[10:14] <TopGear> ActionParsnip: I don't believe so. I'll test it.
[10:14] <The-Dark-Master-> i need to upgrade the 32 bit windows that was put on here
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> TopGear: the 'mount' command will tell you
[10:14] <TopGear> ActionParsnip: Nope, r/w.
[10:14] <maroloccio> llutz: seriously.. one has to measure. it is def. "more" lw.. mind you.. but gnome "2" is pretty tight too..
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: ask in ##windows for windows support
[10:15] <The-Dark-Master-> eh, im losing windows
[10:15] <The-Dark-Master-> too much to upgrade to 64bit
[10:15] <The-Dark-Master-> thats why im going linux
[10:16] <k1l> maroloccio: gnome2 is not available anymore. an please put the comparison talks into the offtopic while we need this channel for support issues. thanks
[10:16] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: did you boot to root recovery to edit the file I said...?
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[10:16] <The-Dark-Master-> i couldnt
[10:16] <BluesKaj> hi ActionParsnip
[10:17] <The-Dark-Master-> ubunto wasnt in boot list
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: hold SHIFT at boot, from the time the system starts to power up, you will see grub
[10:17] <The-Dark-Master-> like i said, i broke it
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: then you can either chroot from liveCD and repair, or reinstall
[10:17] <The-Dark-Master-> lubunto is almost done anyways
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[10:18] <The-Dark-Master-> i used the windows installer though
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: ohhhhhhhhh, thats always hell
[10:18] <The-Dark-Master-> i have no flash
[10:18] <cfhowlett> The-Dark-Master-, details matter ...
[10:18]  * cfhowlett ... wonders why wubi yet lives on
[10:18] <The-Dark-Master-> i thought that didnt
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: i'd boot to WIndows, uninstall Wubi and then make an install CD. Resize your NTFS and install Ubuntnu to the freed space#
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: no idea, its garbage
[10:19] <The-Dark-Master-> my dvd drive wont burn
[10:19] <Daughain> Whats wubi?
[10:19] <The-Dark-Master-> its like gen 1 sata
[10:19] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip, I think wubi has turned more users off from ubuntu than it ever brought in ...
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: a cheap hack to make a disk file in the NTFS of windows, install ubuntu to it and use it like a dual boot.
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: its super fragile and hard to fix if it goes wrong.
[10:20] <The-Dark-Master-> augh, damn wubi
[10:20] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip, except it breaks frequently, messily and unpredictably
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: plus directly affected by fragmentation in Windows
[10:20] <The-Dark-Master-> error right as it finished
[10:21] <Daughain> Oi.
[10:21] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip, better "testing" environment in virtualbox ...
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: boot windows, remove wubi as you would any other app then make a bootable USB stick and install a real OS
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: its crap and should be canned
[10:21] <Eildor> hi all
[10:21] <cfhowlett> Eildor, greeting
[10:21] <cfhowlett> s
[10:21] <The-Dark-Master-> umm, will a PSP work?
[10:22] <Daughain> ActionParsnip, If it runs in windows, I agree with you. just partition from an install disk, if you need windows.
[10:22] <eoin_> hi
[10:22] <Eildor> how's everyone doing
[10:22] <eoin_> I would like to know, where can I get ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso?
[10:22] <Daughain> Eildor, Cursing wubi. =)
[10:22] <Eildor> tried googling it?
[10:23] <iceroot> !download | eoin_
[10:23] <iceroot> !google | Eildor
[10:23] <eoin_> when I go to ubuntu.com, and want to download, it keeps giving me ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[10:23] <eoin_> and I don't have amd, I have intel
[10:23] <Eildor> apologies, wasn't trying to be rude or anything
[10:23] <k1l> eoin_: did you read the bots message?
[10:23] <Daughain> eoin_, do you have a 64 bit system?
[10:23] <cor_r> eoin_, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop amd64 = 64 bit
[10:23] <iceroot> eoin_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.2/ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[10:24] <iceroot> eoin_: amd64 is also working on intel cpus
[10:24] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: amd64 is just the name of the architecture, it does not mean it is only running on amd cpus
[10:24] <eoin_> i need 64bit
[10:24] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: sorry wrong nick
[10:24] <aeon-ltd> short story It's just called that because amd got there first
[10:24] <iceroot> eoin_: amd64 is just the name of the architecture, it does not mean it is only running on amd cpus
[10:24] <aeon-ltd> plus it's shorter than itanium64
[10:25] <Daughain> eoin_, just download the amd file. It will work fine.
[10:25] <iceroot> eoin_: if you need 64bit use the amd64 version
[10:25] <eoin_> I downloaded and installed 1204, but now after reboot it won't boot
[10:25] <eoin_> thought it was the amd part
[10:25] <eoin_> what's the likely issue here??
[10:25] <k1l> eoin_: which cpu you got?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> eoin_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[10:25] <iceroot> eoin_: without details we cant help what "dont boot" means
[10:26] <eoin_> intel i3
[10:26] <iceroot> eoin_: intel i3 is a amd64 cpu
[10:26] <k1l> eoin_: ok, so its not the 64bit problem
[10:26] <eoin_> md5?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | eoin_
[10:27] <eoin_> i'm running linux
[10:27] <eoin_> not windows
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> eoin_: yes, there is an MD5 checker in Linux too.....
[10:27] <aeon-ltd> eoin_: start again. what do you see when you power on?
[10:27] <iceroot> eoin_: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> eoin_: try reading the content in the links, then comment
[10:28] <Eildor> so this channel isn't a ubuntu only chat right, also general talk
[10:28] <iceroot> Eildor: only ubuntu support
[10:28] <aeon-ltd> no ubuntu support only
[10:28] <Eildor> ah okay cool
[10:28] <aeon-ltd> minor 'deraillings' just happen anyway
[10:28] <DJones> !ot | Eildor If you want general Ubuntu chat,
[10:29] <Daughain> Eildor, chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:29] <Eildor> cool thank you
[10:29] <TDM-PSP> error: cannot find GRLDR in all devices
[10:29] <KyouReeUs4nfo> offtopic: (besides http*s://www.startpage.com is better than google.com even if it uses google.com)
[10:30] <eoin_> ok cheers guys
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> KyouReeUs4nfo: i prefer www.duckduckgo.com
[10:30] <k1l> !offtopic
[10:30] <KyouReeUs4nfo> non-JS version?
[10:30] <TDM-PSP> whats that suppose to mean?
[10:32] <BluesKaj> KyouReeUs4nfo, java is installed by default afaik
[10:33] <KyouReeUs4nfo> BluesKaj: https://www.duckduckgo.com/lite doesn't use JS
[10:33] <BluesKaj> KyouReeUs4nfo,  and ?
[10:34] <TDM-PSP> ok do i put the iso or unpack it into flash?
[10:34] <eoin_> the md5 check matched up ok
[10:35] <eoin_> the message at boot im getting is: "Image failed to verify with *ACCESS DENIED*. Press any key to continue."
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> TDM-PSP: use unetbootin
[10:35] <eoin_> ubuntu is showing in the boot menu
[10:36] <aeon-ltd> eoin_: i've never used a uefi/secure boot system, but i'm guessing that is the cause
[10:39] <eoin_> how do I recognise uefi?
[10:39] <eoin_> I don't know if I've got that
[10:41] <jgcampbell300> I would like to build a server for each of the locations that i take care of that monitors all the client computers - servers - and allows me a secure way of connecting to each of them when they need help ... anyone have any helpfull links ?
[10:41] <Eildor> what do you mean by monitors all the clients computers
[10:43] <jgcampbell300> health mostly but all the info i can get from it would be great
[10:43] <DJones> jgcampbell300: I haven't used any of these, but this link might have some pointers https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers#Monitoring
[10:44] <jgcampbell300> thanks DJones
[10:44] <jgcampbell300> trying to get them all to move to linux based os's ... not easy for MS dummies
[10:45] <DJones> jgcampbell300: Its probably worth asking the question in #ubuntu-server as well, people there could well have more experience of the options available
[10:46] <jgcampbell300> ya ... was headed over there in a few min ... i always like to come here first ... seems people that hang here usualy have a pointer or two to get me started ;)
[10:47] <Gnjurac> hi is ther some nativ FPS game that i can play?
[10:47] <jgcampbell300> i saw a really interesting system wala go ... was netsupportmanager or something like that .... seemed very advanced but still waiting for there us department to contact me
[10:47] <aeon-ltd> eoin_: when you boot there should be some options (BIOS?) disable secure boot then the warning message should stop
[10:47] <MrQuist> Hey Guys, I'm having external-monitor issues
[10:47] <MrQuist>  Im on a Lenovo ThinkPad T530 @ ubuntu 12.10. My external monitor works fine over VGA, but thats blurry. So i have this cable: Mini DP -> DP -> Into my monitor
[10:47] <MrQuist> Now, all i can see is the "Ubuntu" logo, as if my laptop is booting
[10:47] <jgcampbell300> try sirous sam
[10:47] <MrQuist> In the system > displays however, is only my laptop screen. Not the external one.
[10:47] <Gnjurac> i saw alot but aloat are empty servers
[10:47] <MrQuist> How can i make this work? What could be wrong?
[10:47] <aeon-ltd> Gnjurac: offtopic, also steam has a huge selection
[10:47] <Gnjurac> jgcampbell300: wher to get sirisus sam
[10:47] <fego> unaffiliated/rumpledelf/4
[10:47] <Gnjurac> i dont want steam
[10:47] <Gnjurac> i hate steam
[10:47] <jgcampbell300> Gnjurac look up steam
[10:47] <riskii> lol, that sucks
[10:48] <Gnjurac> is ther some non steam fps thet has players online
[10:48] <aeon-ltd> Gnjurac: please go to the offtopic channel
[10:48] <The-Dark-Master> origin
[10:48] <Gnjurac> offtopic
[10:48] <jack> hello
[10:49] <The-Dark-Master> how would i boot from usb?
[10:49] <Gnjurac> ubuntu-offtopic?
[10:49] <aeon-ltd> The-Dark-Master: change the boot order in the bios
[10:49] <blazemore> !offtopic | Gnjurac
[10:49] <Guest97085> nick jack
[10:49] <The-Dark-Master> but do i unpack the iso or what?
[10:49] <blazemore> The-Dark-Master: Have you already made a bootable USB stick?
[10:49] <jgcampbell300> The-Dark-Master are you using a MS os right now ?
[10:50] <The-Dark-Master> nope, win7
[10:50] <riskii> no, if you're on Windows right now I suggest downloading and using LiLi Linux live usb creator
[10:50] <blazemore> +1 for LiLi USB
[10:50] <The-Dark-Master> link?
[10:50] <riskii> When you start up your computer, there should be text somewhere on the screen that says something like DEL = Setup or F12 = STARTUP
[10:50] <jgcampbell300> I prefear YUMI
[10:50] <riskii> http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[10:50] <The-Dark-Master> boot order f-12
[10:51] <riskii> alright that's what you want when you get your USB working then
[10:51] <The-Dark-Master> so will i have to use my PSP or ipod?
[10:51] <Guest97085> my lappy's bluetooth device neither searches other bluetooth device nor other bluetooth devices can search it...need help pls?
[10:51] <rijack> i would like to create a scope for unity is there tutorial or something for this, where could i find it
[10:51] <blazemore> The-Dark-Master: Use a USB flash drive
[10:51] <riskii> I think you need a USB storage device/thumb drive
[10:52] <The-Dark-Master> i dont have one big enough
[10:52] <The-Dark-Master> just a 512mb
[10:52] <riskii> Are there netinstall ubuntu images?
[10:52] <blazemore> The-Dark-Master: Not much we can do to help you, then...
[10:52] <aeon-ltd> minimal iso
[10:52] <blazemore> The-Dark-Master: Do you have a blank DVD you can use?
[10:52] <aeon-ltd> !minimal
[10:52] <jpds> riskii: Yes.
[10:52] <The-Dark-Master> my drive wont burn
[10:52] <blazemore> The-Dark-Master try Amazon, they sell USB flash drives
[10:52] <aeon-ltd> The-Dark-Master: or just use the minimal iso
[10:53] <Guest97085> hello
[10:53] <The-Dark-Master> or use my psp as flash
[10:53] <Guest97085> pls help ..... bluetooth isnt working on ubuntu 13.04
[10:53] <The-Dark-Master> i already do so
[10:53] <DJones> riskii: Have you had a look at this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses There's a link in the page about creating lenses
[10:53] <blazemore> Guest97085: What's your laptop?
[10:53] <The-Dark-Master> but do i unpack the iso?
[10:54] <Guest97085> lenovo g580
[10:54] <blazemore> The-Dark-Master: No, use LiLi USB
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: do you dual boot?
[10:54] <blazemore> The-Dark-Master: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[10:54] <The-Dark-Master> ok then, thx
[10:54] <Guest97085> nope
[10:54] <riskii> Djones No I haven't
[10:54] <DJones> riskii: Sorry, that was rijack
[10:55] <riskii> I don't know why I joined #ubuntu to be honest, I'm on Chakra right now, lol.
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i blue     do you see the adapter being detected?
[10:55] <DJones> rijack: Also have a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/91065/how-to-create-a-scope
[10:55] <Guest97085> wait
[10:55] <blazemore> Guest97085: It seems that your bluetooth device is not supported, at least in Ubuntu 12.10, according to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1088888
[10:55] <rijack> thankyou very much
[10:56] <blazemore> Guest97085: Are you sure there's not a hardware switch on the laptop itsself to turn bluetooth on and off? Also, does wireless Internet work?
[10:56] <Guest97085> wireless also not working
[10:57] <bordism> To install ubuntu restricted extras, it said I have to remove some codec. but I didn't do it. Is that going to be a problem
[10:57] <Guest97085> it says cant load firmware, may not work correctly... at some line
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: have you used a wired conection and got fully updated?
[10:57] <Guest97085> yep
[10:57] <blazemore> Guest97085: The Lenovo G580 uses a combined Broadcom radio for both WiFi and Bluetooth - again, double check the hardware switch
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: ok, run:   sudo lshw -C network    what wifi chip are you using (Bet its a cheap broadcom)
[10:58] <Guest97085> jack@jack-Lenovo-G580:~$ dmesg | grep -i blue
[10:58] <Guest97085> [   12.411441] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.16
[10:58] <Guest97085> [   12.411461] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[10:58] <Guest97085> [   12.411470] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[10:58] <Guest97085> [   12.411473] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[10:58] <FloodBot1> Guest97085: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:58] <Guest97085> [   12.411485] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
[10:58] <blazemore> ActionParsnip: It is a broadcom
[10:58] <The-Dark-Master> ok lili installing
[10:58] <blazemore> Guest97085: Also, open the Additional Drivers tool (Application is called Software Sources) and check there's not a driver in there you can install
[10:58] <k1l> !paste | Guest97085
[10:59] <bordism> Anybody?
[11:00] <pusah7> I remember in the past there was "Additional drivers".... where is it now?
[11:00] <bordism> There's a "ubuntu restricted extras"
[11:00] <DJones> bordism: Its probably that a codec in restricted extra's replaces/superseeds one thats already installed
[11:00] <bordism> I installed it, and it warned that I should remove something
[11:00] <bordism> Yeah, I get it
[11:00] <bordism> but I didn't remove the thing
[11:00] <bordism> is it going to cause a problem?
[11:00] <Guest97085> broadcom is active
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | blazemore
[11:01] <blazemore> bordism: If it was important, it would have removed it for you
[11:01] <bordism> It's just I'm setting up this computer for someone else and I don't want them to complain that something doesn't work
[11:01] <DJones> pusah7: On 12.10 and later, its in System settings and then Software sources, there should be a tab called additional drivers
[11:01] <blazemore> Thanks ActionParsnip ... I guess?
[11:02] <blazemore> I would never buy a device with a Broadcom wireless chipset, based on observations of users' experiences in this channel
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: they arent too bad, i like to get ones that work ootb
[11:02] <pusah7> DJones: thank you. could you please tell me for Lubuntu 13.04 (in french if possible :)
[11:02] <bordism> okie dokie
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | Guest97085
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: you can use the wired connection to easily install it
[11:04] <DJones> pusah7: Sorry, I don't use Lubuntu and I don't speak French, it may be worth asking in #lubuntu or #ubuntu-fr for French language support though
[11:05] <pusah7> DJones: ok thank you
[11:06] <Guest97085> blazemore , actionparsnip,... gys help
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: I have told you what to do AND given a step by step guide.
[11:09] <Guest97085> yeppy wifi working
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: weird huh, you  read and follow the guides...and it worked? wow!
[11:09] <Guest97085> actionparsnip  i think  i'v sent you screen shot of addtional drivers window ......
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: i dont accept uploads, use imageshack or similar to make a url
[11:18] <Guest97085> actionparsnip did you get the image....
[11:19] <histo> !paste | Guest97085
[11:20] <Guest97085> http://imagebin.org/263188
[11:22] <HankMccoy> hey i'm new here
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: you need to post the URL of the image in the channel
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/580/yepx.png/
[11:22] <ActionParsnip>  http://imagebin.org/263188
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: like that
[11:23] <DJones> ActionParsnip: They have done, the just didn't highlight your nick with it
[11:25] <HankMccoy> can someone do me a favor and drop by the anonops irc chat
[11:26] <ikonia> HankMccoy: what has that go tot do with ubuntu ?
[11:26] <histo> Guest97085: what is the problem now?
[11:27] <Guest97085> didnt you get image yet? actionparsnip
[11:27] <jnhghy> i have a hp eee notebook that had windows preinstalled, I added ubuntu but widows just crushed, I want to reinstall windows without loosing my ubuntu, if I fallow the steps to reinstall windows from the installed on the hdd(windows installer) will I lose ubuntu?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: yes, what is the issue>
[11:27] <HankMccoy> nothing like I said I need a favor but I did recently switch to Ubuntu so I will be stopping by here to learn stuff
[11:27] <ikonia> HankMccoy: ok, so it's nothing to do with ubuntu, so please don't ask in here
[11:27] <HankMccoy> a coworker suggested it
[11:28] <Guest97085> even if it says driver active...y it still not detecting any device...y others cant detect it..
[11:28]  * The-Dark-Master is now away - Reason : Auto-Away (Away from Keyboard for 30 minutes)
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: tell Windows installer to format the current NTFS partition and install to it. You will need to reinstate grub using Ubuntu liveCD as the installer will blindly overwrite grub
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> !away | The-Dark-Master
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: do you have the b43 firmware cutter package installed?
[11:32] <HankMccoy> so no one will help but if I have Ubuntu problems this is the place
[11:32] <Xeno-Genesis> I want to get a nice Ubuntu laptop, but the Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition isn't available in my area, does anyone know of alternatives?
[11:33] <Guest97085> nope
[11:33] <Xeno-Genesis> I'm using an Asus Zenbook UX32A, but I think the guy who assembled it was drunk that day
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> HankMccoy: yes
[11:33] <DJones> HankMccoy: You haven't asked an Ubuntu support question yet
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: install it using software centre
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Xeno-Genesis: system76 :)
[11:34] <Guest97085> installed wt nw>
[11:34] <Xeno-Genesis> ActionParsnip, Is there something else? I was looking at their systems, but it looks like the hardware is state-of-the-2000s
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Xeno-Genesis: http://linuxpreloaded.com/
[11:35] <Xeno-Genesis> I'll check it out ActionParsnip, thanks
[11:35] <HankMccoy> well I kinda miss my windows dvd burner now installed k3b but because I have to convert must files to mpg they won't play on most dvd players/game consoles
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Xeno-Genesis: the bonobo is pretty sweet 3Tb HDD, 32Gb RAM, Nvidia 680M,  i7-3630QM Processor ( 2.40GHz )
[11:36] <HankMccoy> burn as avi and nothing either
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Xeno-Genesis: circa 2000 ?
[11:36] <Xeno-Genesis> ActionParsnip, yes, circa 2000
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> HankMccoy: try devede
[11:37] <BluesKaj> !dvd | HankMccoy
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Xeno-Genesis: http://ark.intel.com/products/71459   i7-3630QM released Q3 2013
[11:37] <lenz> Hey guys! I'm having a problem with a piece of software in the Ubuntu repos.
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Xeno-Genesis: sorry, 2012
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Xeno-Genesis: so, soryy...but no
[11:38] <Xeno-Genesis> ActionParsnip, I want something more, er, portable
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> HankMccoy  winFF is a nice GUI to convert audio/video files
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Xeno-Genesis: still not 2000 though, is it?
[11:38] <Xeno-Genesis> ActionParsnip, Agreed that the Bonobo is good, hardware-wise, even the display seems good, but it's too large
[11:38] <HankMccoy> well that makes sense who wants to get sued
[11:38] <JJ_> hey everyone, just a quick question about adobe flash in ubuntu if anyone could pm and help me.. running into big trouble
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> JJ_: ask in the channel
[11:39] <HankMccoy> I already got winFF little bro recomended it
[11:39] <lenz> It's called mediatomb. It's a little tool that sets up a UPnP server with a nice little web UI. The problem is that it starts up by default (as root!) when I boot into my system.
[11:39] <JJ_> ok sure
[11:39] <lenz> I really don't want it to do that.
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> lenz: i use plex
[11:39] <BluesKaj> HankMccoy, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[11:40] <HankMccoy> nope got a sudo cmd?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Xeno-Genesis: if you search amazon, you will see people's reviews if they ran Ubuntu on it
[11:40] <lenz> ActionParsnip, that is propiretary
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> lenz: so?
[11:40] <zipy> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras :P
[11:40] <BluesKaj> HankMccoy, yeah , sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:40] <lenz> ActionParsnip, I'd have to play for all features
[11:40] <lenz> I'm not doing that
[11:40] <Guest97085> ActionParsnip  installed b43 firmware wt nw?
[11:41] <JJ_> ActionParsnip: I have install adobe flash and everything, but streaming up videos to ubuntu by record isn't working, and other sites that require flash to stream video as well seem to just come up saying it cannot find the camera etc. But cheese works etc, could it be flash itself blocking these sites somehow?
[11:41] <jnhghy> after editing fstab, what should I restart for the change to be loaded
[11:41] <jnhghy> ?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> lenz: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MediaTomb   shows how you can make it run as another user
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> JJ_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> JJ_: please use a pastebin to host the text
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: sudo mount -a     will mount the new stuff
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: reboot, please write in full sentances
[11:43] <HankMccoy> so I should have asked this first what is in the restricted extras
[11:43] <Guest97085> OK
[11:43] <JJ_> ActionParsnip: I am not at the pc atm, but later today or tomorrow i should have access to it and i can post this information
[11:43] <lenz> Thanks, ActionParsnip! Isn't there a file called init or something where all the autostart applications are put?
[11:43] <lenz> Id just have to remove it from there
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> JJ_: cool, make the pastebin, state your issue and post the link :)
[11:44] <JJ_> ActionParsnip: i sure will, thanks very much!
[11:44] <HankMccoy> and what is this configuring ttf-mscorefonts-installer?
[11:44] <zipy> microsoft fonts
[11:45] <HankMccoy> so it is done just close it?
[11:45] <KM0201> when its done, click close
[11:45] <zipy> if ur cmdline is ready ye
[11:45] <DJones> HankMccoy: The ttf fonts are Windows fonts, you have to accept a license to install those, you should be able to click accept on the licence to continue
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> HankMccoy: use TAB and ENTER to accept the license
[11:45] <KM0201> oh thats right..
[11:45] <antonio_> does anyone else have a problem with kdenlive taking FOREVER to render videos?
[11:46] <antonio_> I'm seriously thinking of dumping Linux.  I have business I need to do.  I need an operating system that just works
[11:46] <earl2> I'd like to code a get-rich-quick web app with subscribers with someone (on the lean startup model, i.e. with a small lean startup company behind it).  I do code.
[11:46] <lenz> antonio_, go ahead
[11:46] <HankMccoy> tab enter worked
[11:46] <KM0201> antonio_: i've used it for 8yrs.. i'd say "just works" describes it perfectly
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> HankMccoy: ;)
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: then don't use it, you have that freedom
[11:48] <bipul> What is Pre-compiled binaries (static) ?
[11:48] <KM0201> the beauty of choice i guess.
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: indeed, tool for the job :)
[11:49] <riskii> bipul it kind of depends on the context
[11:50] <riskii> pre-compiled binaries are just executables that are already ready to go and be run
[11:50] <riskii> as for static I have no idea, which is why it depends on context
[11:50] <bipul> riskii, I don't find ./configu file inside that file
[11:50] <HankMccoy> and the earlier link well I already have VLC I was talking about using winFF to convert stuff like xvid format to mpg and it will not play on most devices
[11:50] <antonio_> damnit!
[11:50] <antonio_> kdenlive just stops rendering
[11:50] <riskii> Oh, is this a package we're talking about
[11:51] <bipul> http://www2.tkn.tu-berlin.de/research/evalvid/ look at this
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: tried setting it a lower nice value?
[11:51] <antonio_> this is so goddamn frustrating...last time I used kdenlive it worked no problem.  now it wont render
[11:52] <riskii> oh, those are the pre-made executables you need to run the program. download the version you need to run the program
[11:53] <devinceble> question running a production ubuntu server using virtualbox bad or good IDEA?
[11:53] <antonio_> actionparsnip: how do I do that?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> devinceble: both and neither
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: if the process is running already, look into 'renice' or you can set the nice value of the process with the 'nice' command
[11:54] <tirtasullivan> guys
[11:54] <tirtasullivan> i need to ask something
[11:54] <tirtasullivan> I'm running Ubuntu LTS 12.04
[11:54] <tirtasullivan> i have this laptop for almost 1 year. .
[11:54] <tirtasullivan> but lately. .
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> tirtasullivan: try hitting ENTER less
[11:55] <KM0201> lol
[11:55] <lenz> tirtasullivan, update
[11:56] <tirtasullivan> *sorry, chat habit :p. . . .next : my laptop can only survive for 8 hours or less than after that, sometimes it get hang, or  restart itself.
[11:56] <tirtasullivan> so, is it probably because overheat?
[11:56] <KM0201> antonio_: have you considered avidemux?
[11:56] <riskii> possibly, what happens when it actually stops working?
[11:56] <tirtasullivan> i'm using dual boot btw
[11:56] <tirtasullivan> Windows 7.
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> tirtasullivan: does the system have a make and model?
[11:57] <tirtasullivan> you meant the laptop model?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> tirtasullivan: yes
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> tirtasullivan: what else
[11:57] <antonio_> km0201: I shouldn't have to change programs.  I really #$%$ing hate when a program works..then decides not to work
[11:57] <tirtasullivan> Ehh, Axioo Neon HNM
[11:57] <tirtasullivan> They released it last year.
[11:57] <KM0201> antonio_: well, i doubt it "decided" not to work.. it's software and therefore cannot think on its own
[11:57] <antonio_> I really don't want to go back to windows, but I also need an operating system that will work...where I dont have to always deal with broken packages
[11:57] <KM0201> it was just a suggestion
[11:58] <antonio_> I realize that..sorry..super frustrated
[11:58] <tirtasullivan> my older laptop is the same Axioo but i've been using that laptop almost for 3 years and it's still okey .
[11:58] <KM0201> antonio_: what version of ubuntu are you using?.. i've not dealt w/ broken packages in... years.
[11:58] <antonio_> can't even remember...
[11:58] <antonio_> 12.10 I think
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> tirtasullivan: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display     do you see an intel and an nvidia gpu, or just intel?
[11:59] <tirtasullivan> hold on.
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> tirtasullivan: the other system is different, so will act differently
[12:00] <antonio_> this is freaking ridiculous!
[12:01] <BluesKaj> antonio_, lsb_release -a , will give your ubuntu version
[12:01] <antonio_> 10.10
[12:01] <antonio_> whoops
[12:01] <KM0201> lmao
[12:01] <antonio_> 12.10
[12:01] <KM0201> well, you redeemed yourself
[12:02] <KM0201> did you recently update kdenlive?
[12:02] <antonio_> nope
[12:02] <antonio_> and there are no updates
[12:02] <KM0201> well, something changed obviously.
[12:02] <antonio_> in the past year I've had nothing but troubles with linux..
[12:03] <KM0201> well, linux isn't for everyone
[12:03] <circle> i need to return some video tapes
[12:03] <antonio_> it was working fine for a while...argh...I can't get any damn work done!
[12:03] <antonio_> video tapes?  what year are we in ;)
[12:03] <circle> GorDon GeCkO
[12:03] <DJones> circle: Please don't spam
[12:04] <antonio_> I'm ready to break this damn laptop
[12:04] <riskii> as long as the distro has tablet mapping support package I usually get anything working
[12:04] <KM0201> lol.. i didn't know you could even rent VHS anymore
[12:04] <antonio_> nah..beta max :D
[12:04] <antonio_> how can I use that renice command with kdenlive?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: use te web, it will tell you
[12:06] <circle> GorDon GeCkO
[12:09] <antonio_> km0201: I don't get this.  About 5 minutes before I was having an issue with this it would render files no problem.  Then nothing
[12:25] <x5seb9x> Hello everyone. I would like to use Ubuntu at my company
[12:25] <x5seb9x> but we have full Windows infrastructure
[12:25] <x5seb9x> I guess best would be to start with a study
[12:25] <Squarepy> x5seb9x, virtual box
[12:26] <x5seb9x> virtual box?
[12:26] <x5seb9x> to run windows programs
[12:26] <x5seb9x> ok Thanks I'll check this out
[12:27] <willybilly0101> x5seb9x, what company field?
[12:27] <sb8459> wut
[12:27] <sb8459> wut
[12:27] <willybilly0101> what are the requests
[12:27] <x5seb9x> we have around 20 computers
[12:27] <x5seb9x> 2 servers
[12:27] <willybilly0101> you want to use Ubuntu for servers or desktops
[12:27] <x5seb9x> run various versions of Windows
[12:27] <willybilly0101> what kind of servers
[12:27] <willybilly0101> etc etc
[12:28] <willybilly0101> vbox will help you learn, but it's no replacement for real life testing
[12:28] <x5seb9x> we are an engineering company
[12:28] <x5seb9x> software we use
[12:28] <x5seb9x> are for example
[12:28] <x5seb9x> Microsoft office 2010
[12:28] <x5seb9x> Autocad
[12:28] <FloodBot1> x5seb9x: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:28] <x5seb9x> ok
[12:29] <willybilly0101> do you have linux alternatives for office & autocad that you know how to use properly?
[12:29] <Squarepy> autocad is hard to replace
[12:30] <willybilly0101> yes it is
[12:30] <willybilly0101> maybe x5seb9x wants only linux servers?
[12:31] <Squarepy> maybe x5seb9x  wants to a bit more concise and clear :)
[12:31] <tonylinux> hi
[12:32] <Squarepy> endih
[12:32] <vl4kn0> Hi, I have an application that's targetting Mac OS X, Windows and Linux. It mainly consists of trayicon. Since ubuntu does not support trayicons I decided to write appindicator for it. Is there any general/standardized way of how to show appindicator only on unity?
[12:33] <Daughain> I have an entry in death that's causing my system to not boot. How do I comment it out from recovery?
[12:33] <Daughain> Death==fstab
[12:35] <Squarepy> Daughain, live cd?
[12:35] <Squarepy> oh nvm
[12:35] <mastaba> morning
[12:35] <Daughain> Squarepy: ??
[12:35] <x5seb9x> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5836088/
[12:37] <mastaba> not sure if anyone here can help me... Im trying to set up an ubuntu file server for our office, and Im trying to find a solution to share with windows computers.  Samba seems to only allow one pc to connect or even browse at a time.
[12:38] <blazemore> mastaba: Are you getting "Error 1219" ?
[12:38] <auronandace> !ad | mastaba
[12:38] <sindri> Currently trying to get virtual users to work with vsftpd, as the only user of my server is it still advisable to create a directory under /home/ for the virtual user?
[12:39] <mastaba> blazemore: I don't believe so, it says only one user can connect at a time.  seems to be a windows issue :/
[12:39] <mastaba> auronandace: is that the fix to this problem from samba4 then?  I think I need to upgrade.
[12:40] <mastaba> Previously we had an OpenBSD box running what I believe was samba, and never had issues
[12:41] <blazemore> mastaba: Perhaps here can help? http://superuser.com/questions/95872/sambawindows-allow-multiple-connections-by-different-users
[12:42] <mastaba> our file server has been down for 4 weeks.  we got the new one in friday afternoon and they are mad it wasn't up yesterday morning -_-
[12:42] <antonio_> actionparsnip: I tried renice..didn't do anything
[12:43] <mastaba> blazemore: that seems to allow one computer to connect to the server with two sessions.  I need 10+ users to be able to connect at once
[12:43] <blazemore> mastaba: AFAIK Samba just does that out of the box...
[12:45] <mastaba> blazemore: doesn't seem to be my experience.  I've tried both ubuntu server 12.10 and now 13, but they both do the same thing.  Perhaps I need to set up a user for each computer connection
[12:45] <mastaba> it works flawlessly with only one person connecting though
[12:46] <mastaba> I know it is a mircosoft issue, unfortunately everyone here is running Adobe creative suite and/or filemaker
[12:47] <willybilly0101> x5seb9x, so question remain open, do you have replacement tools for your desktops?
[12:47] <willybilly0101> Adobe Creative Suite - no
[12:48] <x5seb9x> not really I am checking now if it's doable. For the Office pack for example, I have seen a video where Canonical is showing Ubuntu running from a smartphone and somehow they were also running microsoft office on it
[12:48] <x5seb9x> I have not listed yet what I could use as a replacement
[12:49] <willybilly0101> x5seb9x, you need linux replacements
[12:49] <willybilly0101> openoffice/libre office
[12:49] <willybilly0101> servers are easy to configure
[12:49] <auronandace> x5seb9x: are you sure that wasn't libreoffice you saw?
[12:49] <x5seb9x> I am sure
[12:49] <x5seb9x> lemme find the link
[12:49] <willybilly0101> but if your users are trained in a system, you will fuck them with changhing everything
[12:50] <Squarepy> dual boot
[12:50] <auronandace> !anguage | willybilly0101
[12:50] <auronandace> !language | willybilly0101
[12:50] <willybilly0101> haha
[12:51] <x5seb9x> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66S8is1E9MI
[12:51] <sindri> trying to get vsftp running with virtual user, as I only have one user should one still create a new home dir for it? Or allow it to ftp to my home?
[12:51] <mastaba> why not use google docs for business instead of libreoffice
[12:53] <sindri> Anyone running vsftpd who could help me out?
[12:56] <auronandace> x5seb9x: microsoft office was nowhere in that vid
[12:56] <Squarepy> mastaba, because nsa :)
[12:57] <mastaba> Squarepy: if it's for business, who cares though?
[12:57] <bipul> How to extract .7z file.
[12:57] <Squarepy> mastaba who knows
[12:57] <_droid> hi, I work with tryton on unbutu and I noticed that the package is becomming old. The current version of tryton is 2.8, ubiuntu has 2.2.1 in it's repositories
[12:57] <Daughain_> Squarepy, Thanks for the idea. Live cd fixed the issue.
[12:58] <_droid> and i wanted to know who can I talk to about updating the package
[12:58] <Squarepy> ok ha Daughain_
[12:58] <x5seb9x> auronandace: check at 1:44 you find the icons of PowerPoint and Excel
[12:59] <willybilly0101> x5seb9x, I think you better keep windows (I assume you are the it)
[12:59] <x5seb9x> ok
[12:59] <x5seb9x> willybilly0101: don't you think we could use some of our computers with Ubuntu?
[12:59] <auronandace> x5seb9x: icons mean nothing, i didn't see them run the program
[13:00] <willybilly0101> because if you don't understand perfectly what happens, what are your available tools for replacement and how to implement it, being in a production envirnoment you will BEEP things up
[13:00] <auronandace> x5seb9x: you could use ubuntu but i get the distinct feeling you'll run into many problems with such a windows centric environment
[13:00] <Squarepy> x5seb9x, I think you could educate yourself a bit and make a informed choice
[13:01] <x5seb9x> I think the best is that we just install Ubuntu on a unused computer as a test and to run a "hands-on" feasibility test
[13:02] <willybilly0101> x5seb9x, what about servers?
[13:02] <Squarepy> then we agree
[13:03] <x5seb9x> willybilly0101: from what I hear from all of you it seems too complicated to study the feasibility of replacing our infrastructure. I guess I would keep the windows servers and just try first on the user side with one computer connecting to the active directory server?
[13:03] <willybilly0101> it's not complicated to study
[13:04] <antonio_> how can I figure out whats wrong with kdenlive
[13:04] <willybilly0101> first you need to study
[13:04] <bipul> ! lib-bav
[13:04] <antonio_> Its taking FOREVER to render short clips
[13:04] <willybilly0101> antonio_, just ask him
[13:04] <auronandace> antonio_: best to ask kdenlive developers
[13:04] <chunkyhead> does anyone know is it possible to  copy stuff from the GUI menu and paste stuff in the tty?
[13:04] <KyouReeUs4nfo> (don't think this one has a limit) simple python server (can be killed with Ctrl+C) --> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/tech-tip-really-simple-http-server-python
[13:05] <bipul> !libav-tools
[13:07] <gbit86> I need some help setting up an Upstart script? (stanza?)
[13:08] <gbit86> For someone reason when I add a Stanza conf to /etc/init/ to startup an application it does not run
[13:08] <gbit86> if I run it manually via "start appName" it does run fine
[13:08] <x5seb9x> auronandace: in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRoYlgOC9z0 they talk about a "windows 7 server". Do you have any idea how they run the office pack that way? And do you think that
[13:08] <x5seb9x> auronandace: would be a good replacement/
[13:09] <gbit86> start on filesystem or runlevel [2345]
[13:09] <gbit86> stop on runlevel [06]
[13:09] <gbit86> That is what is in it and I am on Ubuntu 12.04 I believe
[13:11] <doomlord> does bzr have the equivalent of git bare repository support
[13:13] <razzledazzle> guys, I kicked myself out of my own house :|
[13:13] <auronandace> x5seb9x: that makes more sense, they are running a cloud server and the application is on the server and ubuntu is just being used as a thin client to access it
[13:13] <razzledazzle> lost permission to practically everything
[13:13] <razzledazzle> what do I do?
[13:13] <razzledazzle> sudo chmod -u+4 /
[13:13] <razzledazzle> that's what I did
[13:13] <bipul> Hello i can i install libav file in my ubuntu to conver .yuv file into .m4v
[13:13] <bipul> hellopat, How i can i install libav file in my ubuntu to conver .yuv file into .m4v
[13:13] <KyouReeUs4nfo> razzledazzle: use live USB to undo it
[13:15] <x5seb9x> auronandace: so basically best in our case to have a windows cloud or local server and connect to it with our Ubuntu clients but basically also meaning we have to have a good bandwidth right?
[13:15] <BenyaminL> hello, ijust fixed my ubuntu burg, now i wana merge a unallocated partition, now i need hlep using gparted, i have try anything, i can't, need future help, thx
[13:15] <KyouReeUs4nfo> razzledazzle: or use recovery, drop as root to undo it
[13:15] <sindri> Still no one who can help me out with vsftpd?
[13:15] <mregg> Hi - need help or pointers big time. Somebody installed Webmin/Virtualmin on server and since then postfix no longer accepts any connection.
[13:18] <auronandace> x5seb9x: i can't really say whats best for your setup but i can tell you there will very likely be issues due to the programs your using
[13:18] <x5seb9x> ok
[13:19] <x5seb9x> thanks!
[13:19] <MrQuist> Hey Guys, I'm having external-monitor issues
[13:19] <MrQuist>  Im on a Lenovo ThinkPad T530 @ ubuntu 12.10. My external monitor works fine over VGA, but thats blurry. So i have this cable: Mini DP -> DP -> Into my monitor
[13:19] <MrQuist> Now, all i can see is the "Ubuntu" logo, as if my laptop is booting
[13:19] <MrQuist> In the system > displays however, is only my laptop screen. Not the external one.
[13:19] <MrQuist> How can i make this work? What could be wrong?
[13:19] <FloodBot1> MrQuist: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:19] <MrQuist> sry FloodBot1 i type fast ;)
[13:20] <tking> please how do i install Dev C++ in  ubuntu
[13:20] <MrQuist> tking -> download it and install it
[13:21] <tking> MrQuist, i cant find the Ubuntu version
[13:21] <armin> so what are the reasons ubuntu ships with a dnsmasq right now?
[13:22] <MrQuist> then i hope there is one for you tking
[13:22] <MrQuist> ....
[13:22] <BluesKaj> tking, depends what C++ dev field you want
[13:22] <MrQuist> tking, http://www.bloodshed.net/dev/devcpp.html
[13:22] <MrQuist> i suppose that "Requirements
[13:22] <MrQuist> 	
[13:22] <MrQuist> Windows 95 or higher"
[13:22] <FloodBot1> MrQuist: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:22] <MrQuist> means that its for windows.
[13:23] <MrQuist> Damn you floodbot.
[13:23] <armin> damn, that floodbot really sucks.
[13:23] <x5seb9x> tking > Ctrl + alt + F2  then type lsb_release -a
[13:23] <adamk> MrQuist: Seriously, stop using Enter as punctuation, and you won't have this problem.
[13:23] <MrQuist> tking, replace CTRL+ALT+F2 with CTRL+SHIFT+T
[13:23] <MrQuist> adamk, i'm sorry, i pasted something wrong.
[13:24] <BluesKaj> MrQuist, then stop using the enter key for each phrase
[13:24] <armin> you are in a linux channel. people there use the command line. they write things. quickly. and it's good that they do that.
[13:24] <mregg> Hi all :) anyone familiar with Postfix?
[13:25] <adamk> armin: There's a difference between writing things quickly, and flooding the channel by using the enter key over and over when a simple comma or period will do.
[13:25] <MrQuist> I never use enter for punctuation. Why would i. Also, is there someone that can help me with my monitor problem? Hello? Someone? .... I'd like some help with my monitor problems.. I suppose its the videocard drivers or something. Its weird tho, since i _do_ get a simple ubuntu logo when i plug my monitor in. Hello?
[13:26] <armin> adamk: sure is, and i vote for not using enter as punctuation as well, but forcing a way of speech (by a bot) on humans is just completely wrong.
[13:27] <armin> adamk: and i'm writing irc bots myself.
[13:27] <sindri> ufw tells me port 21 is allowed, but telnet localhost @ that port is refused, why is that?
[13:28] <Friberg_> you have nothing there
[13:28] <MrQuist> I wish I could just use the enter key :( @armin -> indeed. Also, the only reason that i made that triple-line post, was because i accidentaly pasted a 0x13.. But erm, is there someone that could help me out? @armin, oh cool, what kind of bots? @sindri, is there a firewall / service running there?
[13:28] <armin> adamk: apart from that, i aggregate thoughts while i type, and using the enter key terminates a line of thoughts for me, mentally. people think in a very different way, and while it's ok to tell them to not flood that way and reconsider their way of thinking while they communicate, it's pretty bad to force your way of thinking on others.
[13:28] <sindri> I was hoping my ftp (vsftpd) service ran there, any quick way to check?
[13:29] <auronandace> armin: they won't change the floodbots, thats the way it is, just accept the channel guidelines and move on
[13:29] <armin> adamk: MrQuist is just using a pretty awkward workaround to not get punished by the bot right now as you can see, as he tries to be kind and communicate in a way that is fine with everyone here. that's a very friendly thing, and it destroys the separation of thoughts in his speech.
[13:30] <bipul> Hello why i am getting this error http://pastebin.com/Etgakg90
[13:30] <MrQuist> @sindri: lantup -pa | grep *processname*
[13:30] <MrQuist> netstat* sorry
[13:30] <MrQuist> netstat -pa | grep *application*
[13:30] <armin> auronandace: i'm not trying to change that. i'm just saying it's wrong and they should feel ashamed for trying to force this by bots.
[13:30] <antonio_> no one is chatting in #kdenlive...
[13:30] <BluesKaj> armin, that's what sentences are for separated by periods :)
[13:31] <antonio_> I think the problem is with melt...its showing that its taking 114% of the CPU is system monitor...what can I do?
[13:31] <armin> BluesKaj: and that's just what i do. but in technical speech that's just sometimes not possible, especially when using multiline pastes, which again is not a problem at all if you don't use more than, say, 3 lines or so.
[13:31] <Allyoutoo> Why is the Minitube applicaiton in software center licensed as proprietary software if its licensed under LGPL :S
[13:31] <jrib> armin: before the bot, the rule still existed.  It just meant human beings had to be bothered to send the factoid to people.  The rule helps with channel readability.  Let's move on
[13:31] <MrQuist> @ sindri -> this might work better: netstat -tulpn |grep :21
[13:32] <sindri> MrQuist : thanks, it returns nothing so I guess I know where my problem is atleast
[13:32] <MrQuist> sindri , sorry, once again - you have to try  "netstat -tulpn |grep 21"
[13:32] <MrQuist> that should show a service on port 21
[13:32] <MrQuist> or not.
[13:32] <armin> jrib: again, i'm writing bots myself, but i never write any that do harm to people. but yes, let's move on on that one.
[13:32] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sindri: iptables -nvL may tell you more about it. (If I may say this, ufw is not the actual firewall)
[13:33] <armin> MrQuist: irc-bots of any kind, mostly simple ones in python that perform specific tasks. right now a twitter bot that aggregates tweets, tweets itself, etc.
[13:33] <adamk> "harm to people"... Wow...  Never thought I'd hear anyone suggest FloodBoot was actually harming people.
[13:33] <sindri> KyoReeUs4nfo : hehe I know ufw isn't the real thing but is was more noob friendly; haven't really gotten the hang of iptables, and using fail2ban so it's HUGE
[13:34] <MrQuist> sweet :) @ adamk -> actually floodbot is flooding this channel.... I posted 3 lines. Floodbot then added 3 (+1 private). Then added 3 more.
[13:35] <armin> MrQuist: i fully agree with you.
[13:36] <numberto> Hi guys, I have intalled new font and can see it from Libreoffice writer, but does not see it in my terminal.
[13:36] <MrQuist> Plus, there's 3 of them.
[13:36] <armin> even worse would be kicking "flooders", at least it doesn't do that.
[13:36] <MrQuist> heheh +q can be even more annoying
[13:37] <auronandace> armin: it can kick repeating flooders
[13:37] <dellos> hi, i Cant open dash home , what should I do to repair that?
[13:41] <dellos> hi, i Cant open dash home , what should I do to repair that?
[13:43] <mbeierl> Is there any utility at all left for adding music to an ipod/phone/etc running ios 6 anymore?
[13:44] <MrQuist> yes. Destroy iOS and install Linux on it
[13:44] <mbeierl> MrQuist, um... linux doesn't install on an iDevice...
[13:44] <tannji> lol
[13:44] <MrQuist> hahah
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> dellos: which release?
[13:45] <MrQuist> the whole main code of iOS / OSX = unix
[13:45] <vl4kn0> Hi, what package provides gio/gio.h?
[13:45] <MrQuist> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m1rroUS_0g
[13:45] <mbeierl> MrQuist, and I'm looking for Ubuntu support, thanks
[13:48] <lugyimin> hi
[13:48] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sindri: any port-rule outbound or inbound added in iptables will be caught as open/filtered by localhost depending on the rule. For instance when 21--outbound--connection is dropped, telnet will keep trying to connect to it without any success...
[13:48] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sindri: nmap localhost to find out which ports are open/filtered
[13:50] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sindri: pgrep ftp to find process ID of running ftp server
[13:50] <htutmyat> testing
[13:52] <dellos> need some help with dash home error
[13:52] <dellos> it not work now
[13:52] <MrQuist> DICKS!
[13:52] <tpe> Interesting welcome.
[13:53] <compdoc> MrQuist, if you want some of those, youre better off going to a bar
[14:00] <btaylor_> Hi where can I get help with MAAS?
[14:02] <smallmouse> how do i know what users i have on the system ?
[14:03] <jatt> cat /etc/passwd
[14:03] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Quick question (I haven't really surfed for this): I would like to share just music player so that I could access that and the local playlists on the iPhone. Something like terminal services in we-in-dow-s. How do I go about it?
[14:03] <KyouReeUs4nfo> smallhouse: users
[14:04] <smallmouse> KyouReeUs4nfo: i have only 2, but 3 home directories ? any ideas ?
[14:04] <lmat> I have a device (/dev/sdc1) that doesn't have a UUID in /dev/disk/by-uuid . What should I do?
[14:04] <KyouReeUs4nfo> smallmouse: /etc/passwd comes with some users with /home
[14:05] <smallmouse> KyouReeUs4nfo: 2 users - ubuntu and ubuntu but 3 home directories drup, sira, ubuntu.  i thought i added the other 2 dont show up
[14:05] <jatt> anybody can create a home directory the user must not exist
[14:05] <smallmouse> KyouReeUs4nfo: yes more have come up
[14:06] <KyouReeUs4nfo> smallmouse: drup and sira ? did you create those?
[14:06] <smallmouse> KyouReeUs4nfo: yes
[14:06] <lmat> The disk shows up in /dev/disk/by-id as a USB drive...
[14:06] <KyouReeUs4nfo> smallmouse: all is well then, yes?
[14:06] <smallmouse> KyouReeUs4nfo: why dont they come uo ?
[14:07] <smallmouse> KyouReeUs4nfo: when i type in users, very misleading
[14:07] <smallmouse> KyouReeUs4nfo: i want to give them access to a particular directory and path but cant change permissions of the directory - is there a way to do this ?
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> KyouReeUs4nfo  is this useful? it's not exactly the same issue, though http://www.sysadminshare.com/2011/12/change-uuid-of-cloned-disk-in-linux.html
[14:08] <KyouReeUs4nfo> smallmouse: users command will tell you which ones are using bash terminals actually and I think you wanted to find out total number of users so that would be in /etc/passwd. If the other two are not logged in, it won't show when you execute users.
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> smallmouse: grep \/bin\/bash /etc/passwd | wc -l
[14:09] <jatt> exactly
[14:10] <smallmouse> ActionParsnip: thank
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> to show the usernames: grep \/bin\/bash /etc/passwd | cut -f1 -d":"
[14:10] <smallmouse> KyouReeUs4nfo: thank you
[14:11] <Crazyeagle> would like to ask a question about usb drives formatting mounting etc. Would this be the place?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> Crazyeagle: if its under Ubuntu, yes
[14:11] <lmat> Crazyeagle: YES!!!
[14:11] <Crazyeagle> ok
[14:11] <lmat> I have a device (/dev/sdc1) that doesn't have a UUID in /dev/disk/by-uuid . What should I do?
[14:11] <lmat> Crazyeagle: Can you help?
[14:12] <iceroot> lmat: sudo blkid is not shwoing a UUID?
[14:12] <lmat> iceroot: It doesn't show anything!
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> lmat  you too, this is a hint: uuidgen    http://www.sysadminshare.com/2011/12/change-uuid-of-cloned-disk-in-linux.html
[14:12] <Crazyeagle> Installed 12.04lts and then inserted usb initially it read it but then ejected it from nautilus
[14:13] <lmat> Crazyeagle: Must be lukewarm...
[14:13] <Crazyeagle> then reinserted the usb again everything was gone lmat
[14:13] <lmat> Crazyeagle: whoa...that's worse than lukewarm...this is gnashing of teeth!
[14:14] <Crazyeagle> lmat: yes is frustrating then same thing happen to a 2nd usb so afraid of putting any other usb drv in!
[14:14] <lmat> MonkeyDust: Wow, that looks easy enough! But it still leaves me flabberghasted as to why the original UUID is gone. Oh welll
[14:14] <lmat> for sure!
[14:14] <lmat> Crazyeagle: &
[14:14] <lmat> Crazyeagle: ^
[14:14] <Crazyeagle> lmat: got into gparted to format gparted won't list
[14:14] <lmat> Crazyeagle: You have another computer?
[14:15] <BluesKaj> Crazyeagle, or do you have a cdrom ?
[14:15] <lmat> Crazyeagle: yeah, see what it does to your CDs ^_^
[14:15] <AndreasEr> How can i use iptables to redirect all http errors(404,403 etc) to a specific IP?
[14:15] <Crazyeagle> yes I do
[14:16] <Crazyeagle> i used gparted won't see the usb then though well winblows maybe can reformat it won't let me
[14:16] <Crazyeagle> using dd tels me there is no medium
[14:16] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: it's called "windows" try to show a little bit of maturity and communicate the products correctly
[14:16] <lmat> AndreasEr: I don't think IPTables reads http ?
[14:16] <Crazyeagle> disk utility list this as sgf
[14:17] <Crazyeagle> sorry just kidding
[14:17] <BluesKaj> Crazyeagle,is this a an attempt at installing from a usb or just trnsferring files to a dir on the computer ?
[14:17] <lmat> ikonia's comment reflects a different world-view than that previously popular in free operating systems...
[14:18] <KyouReeUs4nfo> smallmouse: can you do chmod 755 to those user's directories?
[14:18] <Crazyeagle> BluesKaj: no I wanted to write some files just simple use a usb
[14:18] <lmat> No longer are the free softwares apparently taking pop shots at the "big boys", we now treat them with respect; not as equals, but as inferiors.
[14:18] <Crazyeagle> lmat: well what you think
[14:18] <Crazyeagle> lmat: lsusb list the device but gparted won't see it
[14:19] <lmat> Crazyeagle: I think you should do a careful, documentable test. Use another computer, write a file to the usb, put it in linux, take it back to the other computer and verify that the file is gone.
[14:19] <lmat> Crazyeagle: did the usb devices work before some other event?
[14:19] <lmat> Crazyeagle: Could it be that the data aren't deleted, but simply not listed?
[14:19] <AndreasEr> lmat , i dont know tbh. I have successfully redirected all trafic to a specific IP. But if the router isnt connected to the internet it doesent seams to work. Got any better idea how i can send basicly everything from the web(80/443) to an internal IP?
[14:19] <lmat> Crazyeagle: Are you using an old Dell?
[14:20] <Crazyeagle> lmat: the drive was being used on a venerable Windows 7 MS operating system
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Crazyeagle, sudo fdisk -l , see if it's listed there
[14:20] <samy> hola
[14:20] <lmat> AndreasEr: now, everything from the web is *very* different than all HTTP errors! Everything from the web is IP traffic, yes, this is very possible.
[14:20] <Crazyeagle> BluesKaj: no a optiplex 3010
[14:20] <samy> alguien q m exe una manita?
[14:20] <lmat> AndreasEr: No I don't know how. I'd have to experiment just like you ^_^ What's your setup?
[14:20] <lmat> Crazyeagle: venerable as opposed to winblows, or vulnerable?
[14:21] <lmat> samy no
[14:21] <Crazyeagle> lmat: not the file is gone the drive becomes inaccesible
[14:21] <BluesKaj> Crazyeagle, what's an optiplex 3010?
[14:21] <lmat> Crazyeagle: oh, it's an optiplex?
[14:21] <Crazyeagle> a dell
[14:21] <DJones> !es | samy
[14:21] <AndreasEr> lmat, It's a router running tomato and a raspberry (webserver) that i want to redirect all traffic too
[14:21] <lmat> Crazyeagle: I have had great USB problems on my dell (not running linux, not on the internet, etc.)
[14:21] <lmat> AndreasEr: raspberry pi?
[14:21] <AndreasEr> lmat, yes
[14:21] <BluesKaj> so Crazyeagle , just run the command I posted in the terminal
[14:21] <Crazyeagle> BluesKaj: yes he ask a old dell answer no a new one optiplex 3010
[14:22] <lmat> AndreasEr: You're wanting to multicast to both devices?
[14:22] <lmat> Crazyeagle: ahh new one...I would like to think that the USB subsystem is more stable now-a-days.
[14:22] <Crazyeagle> I already did and nothing
[14:22] <samy> es q nadie contesta en ningun lado
[14:22] <samy> jaja
[14:22] <samy> y probe aqui
[14:22] <lmat> samy no
[14:23] <k1l> !es | samy
[14:23] <lmat> yeah, solo in engles!!! ^_^
[14:23] <AndreasEr> lmat, I want all trafic on port 80/443 + error messages to redirect to the raspberry pi webserver
[14:23] <Crazyeagle> it won't list with fdisk or df or other only lsusb will list and only disk utility will see it
[14:23] <Crazyeagle> but cannot format with disk utility
[14:23] <lmat> AndreasEr: All incoming traffic ?
[14:24] <Crazyeagle> it says Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdf: No medium found
[14:24] <lmat> AndreasEr: Are you configuring a router?
[14:24] <Crazyeagle> BluesKaj: this is what disk utility or dd will always say Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdf: No medium found
[14:24] <lmat> Crazyeagle: what about    ls -al /dev/usb   ?
[14:25] <KyouReeUs4nfo> AndreasEr: may be string module could do it, not sure
[14:25] <AndreasEr> lmat , yes it's a router running tomato (linux)
[14:25] <Crazyeagle> lmat:  ls -al /dev/usb
[14:25] <Crazyeagle> lmat:  said ls: cannot access /dev/usb: No such file or directory
[14:25] <ikonia> AndreasEr: then why are you asking in #ubuntu ?
[14:26] <ikonia> AndreasEr: surly #netfilter would be the right place
[14:26] <prod_> Hi all. I am looking for help fixing my monitor resolution. After failing all the guides I have come here to ask what im doing wrong. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution is the main thread i am working from. For some reason xrandr --addmode isnt persistent. On reboot I get a crazy long error message taking up my whole screen.
[14:26] <AndreasEr> ikonia, thanks.
[14:27] <Crazyeagle> lmat: i put this sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdf bs=1M and get this dd: opening `/dev/sdf': No medium found
[14:27] <lmat> AndreasEr: Ahh! I wasn't familiar with Tomato.
[14:27] <lmat> AndreasEr: gotcha
[14:27] <Crazyeagle> BluesKaj: any suggestions?
[14:27] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: there is no disk
[14:27] <lmat> AndreasEr: I'd have to google it same as you.
[14:27] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: it's not called sdf
[14:28] <ikonia> it's that simple
[14:28] <Crazyeagle> but disk utility list like that?
[14:28] <lmat> Crazyeagle: Thank goodness you got no medium found!
[14:28] <lmat> Crazyeagle: I think you would break it if that succeeded, right?
[14:28] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: ls -la /dev/sdf
[14:28] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle: should be something on the order of sdfx where x is a number
[14:28] <lmat> Crazyeagle: oh, no /dev/usb...so sorry
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Crazyeagle: sudo fdisk -l     will show the disk layouts
[14:29] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: ls -la /dev/sdf <- what I got
[14:29] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: was this brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 80 Jul  2 09:23 /dev/sdf
[14:30] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: from the cmd you suggested
[14:30] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle: what happens when you try fdisk /dev/sdf do you get an error message?
[14:30] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: ok, so that's got a device file,
[14:30] <Crazyeagle> lmat: fdisk: unable to open /dev/sdf: No medium found
[14:31] <ikonia> hang on
[14:31] <ikonia> thi sisn't a cdrom is it it
[14:31] <ikonia> is
[14:31] <Crazyeagle> no a usb it is a cruzer mini 512mb
[14:31] <Crazyeagle> put in different ports same thing
[14:32] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle do you have another computer you can try to verify that the usb drive still actually works?
[14:32] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: I put this usb on a win7 machine comes up but says can't access
[14:33] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: so what does that tell you.....
[14:33] <aiten_44> reason why I ask is flash memory can only be read to and written to so many times and being a 512mb flash drive leads me to believe its older and might not work any more
[14:33] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: can't access in windows...can't access in ubuntu
[14:34] <Crazyeagle> well but intially worked on win7 then put on ubuntu, ejected it properly with nautilus and then stoppped working
[14:34] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: so then used a second usb and same thing happen
[14:34] <sindri> according to #ps -A | grep "ftp" I got 10 processes running, is this normal behavious running vsftpd?
[14:35] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: so how many usbs I have to break on my ubuntu install to figure that something wrong is going on?
[14:36] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: when I put them back on win 7 then also everything is gone, thankfully did not have anything important
[14:36] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle: can you remformat the usb stick in windows?  If so try reformatting it as fat32 and then plugging it into your ubuntu comp see if it does it again
[14:37] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: it won't let me
[14:38] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle: alright was worth a shot have you tried opening that drive using gparted?
[14:38] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: windows sees it but then says insert a disk then try again! crazy because is a usb and it can see it
[14:38] <Takumo> Hey, anyone had the issue where logrotate doesn't seem to be runing the postrotate scripts
[14:39] <Takumo> but if you run it manually it does?
[14:39] <Crazyeagle> gparted won't see it but disk utility will
[14:39] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: so not sure what that is all about
[14:40] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle:  You said this was a sandisk crusier right?  I do beleive that some of those actually mounted as a cdrom drive and automounted the actuall flash portion might be part of your prob
[14:40] <Crazyeagle> well is an old sandisk 512mb in windows it did not have a cdrom section
[14:41] <Yud_Zroc> Im using ubuntu 13.04 and my update manager popped up with an update(which I dont mind) I am wondering why Kubuntu updates are starting to show for the KDE
[14:41] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: I had used previously on win pc and formatted them now on my ubuntu 12 did this
[14:42] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle: alright give me a sec I'm going to see if I can find something on this I'll be back
[14:42] <Crazyeagle> ok
[14:42] <Crazyeagle> ty
[14:46] <Crazyeagle> btw if i do this: mkfs.ext3: No medium found while trying to determine filesystem size. I get this: /dev/sdf is entire device, not just one partition! Proceed anyway? (y,n) y then mkfs.ext3: No medium found while trying to determine filesystem size
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> Crazyeagle  try partitioning it, first
[14:46] <ikonia> he can't partition it as the disk is screwed
[14:46] <Crazyeagle> MonkeyDust: ok how?
[14:46] <ikonia> he keeps going around on this loops
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> true
[14:47] <Crazyeagle> MonkeyDust: because disk utility won't do it gparted won't see it
[14:48] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle: try downloading the u3 removal tool from sandisk run it and see if that works
[14:48] <aiten_44> on your windows pc
[14:48] <lmat> I'm trying to run tune2fs, but the system doesn't recognize it as a command (nor man pages on it). I sudo apt-get install e2fsprogs but it says that that's already installed.
[14:48] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: I'll try
[14:48] <LogiM> hi, plesk has tried to run an auto-update and killed my mail server - i can't see any binary files for qmail
[14:49] <LogiM> how can i reinstall qmail manually so that my php mail() function works?
[14:49] <lmat> what the heck! I guess it works now.
[14:49] <ikonia> LogiM: whoaa what do you mean manually
[14:49] <SwedeMike> lmat: could be e2fsprogs
[14:49] <ikonia> LogiM: qmail has a very specific install process
[14:49] <lmat> SwedeMike: Thanks.
[14:49] <lmat> ikonia:something besides    ./configure && make && make install
[14:50] <ikonia> lmat: 1.) you should never do that with ANY software 2.) yes, very different
[14:51] <cropalato> Hi, i'm trying to use do-release-upgrade with my internal mirror. But when i get my precise.tar.gz form my internal server, the tool is using prerequists-sources.list to download some files (it is pointing to archive.ubuntu.com). In this file, there is a variable ${mirror}. How can i use it?
[14:53] <Geofff> Hi all, just wondering if there's a way to watch a folder and FTP files in it when to a server when they're saved?
[14:54] <reisio> Geofff: so many ways
[14:54] <Galaxor> Hi.  I can't apt-get install anything because it says linux-generic : Depends: linux-headers-generic (= 3.2.0.43.51) but 3.2.0.48.58 is to be installed
[14:54] <ikonia> Galaxor: do a sudo apt-get update to bring the local cache in sync
[14:55] <Geofff> reisio: Such as? :P
[14:55] <blazemore> Geofff: What's you're looking for is folder syncronisation - does it have to be FTP?
[14:56] <antivirtel> hi, is here someone who has expirience with avidemux2_cli?
[14:56] <Geofff> blazemore, Yeah - they're going up to a webserver that I only have FTP access to
[14:56] <blazemore> Geofff: The easiest thing to do would just be to script it to sync every 5 minutes or so
[14:57] <root> Hi every one!
[14:57] <Galaxor> ikonia: After apt-get update, I did apt-get -f install, like it suggested.  I got:  Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.2.0-48-generic_3.2.0-48.74_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[14:57] <ikonia> Galaxor: clear down the archives directory
[14:57] <Geofff> blazemore, Yeah that would be easiest, but I kinda need something a bit more responsive than that as I'm updating CSS files etc every 20 seconds or so
[14:57] <blazemore> Geofff: Anyway, "unison" is a name I've heard before - http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/
[14:57] <Galaxor> ikonia: Oh.  No space left on device!
[14:58] <philinux> Galaxor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoverLostDiskSpace
[14:58] <Galaxor> ikonia: It's only /boot that's full.
[14:58] <Galaxor> ikonia: I'll delete some old kernels.
[14:58] <reisio> Geofff: iwatch maybe
[14:58] <pauser> hi, how is it possible that javascript does not work properly in any browser under ubuntu. it shows me errors that should not. me and someone here took the same working project from git and it does not work for me :S .
[14:58] <blazemore> Geofff: Also here http://sina.salek.ws/content/how-mirrorsync-remote-ftp-folder-local-folder
[14:58] <ikonia> Galaxor: no
[14:58] <ikonia> Galaxor: delete them using the package manager
[14:58] <reisio> pauser: link
[14:59] <Galaxor> ikonia: That's what I meant, yes.  Thanks.
[14:59] <ikonia> pauser: it's not possible
[14:59] <ikonia> Galaxor: just checking
[14:59] <Yud_Zroc> Im using ubuntu 13.04 and my update manager popped up with an update(which I dont mind) I am wondering why Kubuntu updates are starting to show for the KDE
[14:59] <blazemore> pauser: Different browsers deal with javascript in entirely different ways, Ubuntu has nothing to do with it
[14:59] <pauser> reisio: its not open source, but its true what i said ! How do i solve the problem
[14:59] <ikonia> Yud_Zroc: what you've just said doesn't make sense
[14:59] <philinux> Yud_Zroc: I get same as I have k3b installed
[14:59] <reisio> pauser: it's going to be hard if you can't show anyone anything
[14:59] <reisio> pauser: start with #javascript
[15:00] <blazemore> Yud_Zroc: Do you mean, you are wondering why there are updates for KDE packages being shown, when you are not using Kubuntu?
[15:00] <Yud_Zroc> blazemore: correct
[15:00] <blazemore> Yud_Zroc: If you have ever installed a KDE application like k3b, it also installs a lot of requirements to allow KDE packages to run on Ubuntu
[15:00] <blazemore> Yud_Zroc: The package manager will continue to keep these requirements up-to-date
[15:00] <pauser> blazemore: i know but its not possible that the same project works in 4 other computers and for me it does not work in firefox,chrome,opera
[15:00] <blazemore> Yud_Zroc: It is nothing to worry about :)
[15:01] <blazemore> pauser: You're right
[15:01] <phretor> I've installed mysql-server on an machine with a ~250GB database in /var/lib/mysql from a previous installation. Is it normal that the first boot of the daemon takes a few hours to complete? Thanks.
[15:01] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: here is the result in win7: u3_partition() failed: Failed reading device property 0x03: Header of property 0x0003 could not be read.
[15:01] <Galaxor> ikonia: Hm.  I can't apt-get remove those kernels.  It gives me the error about unmet dependencies again.
[15:01] <blazemore> Galaxor: "sudo apt-get -f install"
[15:02] <craigbass1976> I've got some weird packet issues.  I'm only having problems with one PC, using different NICs, switch ports, and cables.  Same stuff on other boxes has no trouble.
[15:02] <Galaxor> blazemore: Doesn't help, because I'm out of space on /boot, so its attempts to install the kernel package it wants to install end up failing.
[15:02] <Yud_Zroc> http://imgur.com/amhOfsd <--this stuff I dont want showing up, how to I remove it
[15:02] <Galaxor> blazemore: That's why I'm trying to clear space on /boot by apt-get removing old kernels.
[15:03] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle: Dang I was hoping that it was going to work is that on both usb sticks you tried or just the one?
[15:03] <Crazyeagle> i know is kind of going around and around but that is how i feel believe me
[15:03] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: let me try the other one
[15:03] <blazemore> Galaxor: out of space on /boot is a tricky one...
[15:04] <yugandhar> Hi,
[15:04] <silv3r_m00n> does anybody know the keyboard shortcut to delete a row in libreoffice calc ?
[15:04] <blazemore> Yud_Zroc: Why do you want to get rid of it?
[15:05] <aiten_44> ctrl + shift + left arrow and then delete
[15:05] <Crazyeagle> same
[15:05] <blazemore> Yud_Zroc: You could uninstall those packages using synaptic
[15:05] <Yud_Zroc> blazemore: they arnt installed, ubuntu wants to install them....
[15:05] <blazemore> Yud_Zroc: But they are there for a reason
[15:05] <blazemore> Yud_Zroc: They are already installed; Ubuntu wants to update them
[15:05] <yugandhar> i would like to install ubuntu desktop. Please let me know which version is the best and compatible with all software & apps
[15:05] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: is there a way to mount a dev in two places or force it to be mounted as a specific type so gparted can see it?
[15:06] <blazemore> yugandhar: Ubuntu 13.04 is the most recent version
[15:06] <Yud_Zroc> blazemore: I couldnt screencap the top part, but it wants to install KDE core files
[15:06] <blazemore> Yud_Zroc: That is the update manager
[15:06] <aiten_44> gparted should be able to see if when mounted or un mounted
[15:06] <aiten_44> gparted doesn't see anything correct not even that you have a device plugged in?
[15:07] <Yud_Zroc> blazemore: so your telling me unity and KDE are merging?
[15:07] <sandeepr_ltp> hi,
[15:07] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: but if fdisk won't see it but disk utility is seeing it how is that possible?
[15:07] <sandeepr_ltp> i get a lost of names when i execute a particular command
[15:07] <blazemore> Yud_Zroc: No, would you please read what I have said
[15:07] <sandeepr_ltp> there is also one file called admin.xx
[15:07] <sandeepr_ltp> i want to list all the names except admin.xx
[15:08] <blazemore> Yud_Zroc: You have, at some point, installed a package which has KDE dependencies. This could be some game, or k3b, or something. Now, Ubuntu is trying to keep those dependencies up-to-date, and you should let it
[15:08] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle: Idk lol I have had similar situations though I'm still looking into your problem hopefully we'll figure it ot
[15:08] <aiten_44> out
[15:08] <sandeepr_ltp> what is my option
[15:08] <sandeepr_ltp> i have attempted grep, cut
[15:08] <Crazyeagle> ok
[15:08] <sandeepr_ltp> it lists the admin.xx
[15:08] <blazemore> sandeepr_ltp: grep -v admin.xx ?
[15:08] <Yud_Zroc> blazemore: how do i remove all thesedependancies?
[15:08] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: TY for trying!
[15:09] <yugandhar> i've a seperate partition for my home and also it consists lot files which are more important , how can i fresh install ubuntu 13.04 without deleting my home partition.
[15:09] <blazemore> Yud_Zroc: You would have to remove the package which required those dependencies to be installed in the first place. OR you can install "synaptic" package manager, find one of the packages which offends you so much, and mark it for removal. Then, it will list a lot of packages to be removed, and you should say yes, remove them all
[15:09] <blazemore> Yud_Zroc: But you will lose whatever package you originally installed which required those dependencies
[15:10] <jiltdil> Is there any way to know the previous calculation (history) done through bc ?
[15:10] <Yud_Zroc> blazemore: ok thankyou
[15:10] <sandeepr_ltp> blazemore, it lists admin.xx
[15:10] <reisio> jiltdil: bc <<< foo in bash, then it'll be !!
[15:10] <blazemore> sandeepr_ltp: What are you running to get this output?
[15:10] <Yud_Zroc> blazemore: is not that it offends me, i just dnt want added bloat
[15:11] <chro> I have a cluster with 6 machines, how can I mirror the home folder of users ?
[15:11] <blazemore> Yud_Zroc: You are the one who installed it, nobody else. You are free to remove those packages as you wish
[15:11] <reisio> chro: constantly, or once?
[15:11] <sandeepr_ltp> crowbar_machines list
[15:11] <jiltdil> reisio, foo means what to put here?
[15:11] <blazemore> chro: Look into LDAP, but it's an advanced topic. #ubuntu-server can point you in the right direction maybe
[15:11] <reisio> jiltdil: some calculation
[15:11] <reisio> jiltdil: bc <<< 2+3
[15:11] <reisio> etc.
 i've a seperate partition for my home and also it consists lot files which are more important , how can i fresh install ubuntu 13.04 without deleting my home partition.
[15:11] <sandeepr_ltp> blazemore, crowbar_machines list
[15:11] <reisio> jiltdil: echo '2+3' | bc also works
[15:12] <craigbass1976> The plot thickens...  My weird packet issues are on my install.  A live xubuntu 12.04 cd has no such packet loss trouble.
[15:12] <jiltdil> reisio, oh! but i had done some calculation 1 day befor, i want to see that calculation.
[15:12] <chro> blazemore, ldap is from windows no ?
[15:12] <blazemore> no
[15:12] <reisio> jiltdil: I don't think bc has a history, man bc
[15:13] <jiltdil> reisio, yes, no history for bc , i already saw man . Any way thanks
[15:13] <blazemore> yugandhar: Before you do anything, make a backup onto another machine or external drive (just in case). Then, you can choose custom partitioning during the installer, and choose your existing /home partition to mount as /home. make sure you do not tick the box to format it.
[15:13] <blazemore> yugandhar: If it were me, I'd do a backup and a completely fresh install, and then copy the important files back over
[15:13] <blazemore> Anyone I'm in the middle of advising, I'll brb 10 minutes
[15:14] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: noob question installed a pkg that is cmd line invoked how do I know where the software center installed?
[15:14] <yugandhar> Thanks alot blazemore
[15:15] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: what did you install and how
[15:15] <lmat> I'm having trouble mounting a drive. It's a raid with 3 disks in it. It mounted until recently when the power shut off. Now, there's a /dev/sdc1 for it, but no /dev/disk/by-uuid for it. It also shows up in /dev/disk/by-id as a USB driev.
[15:15] <Galaxor> blazemore, ikonia: My solution:  I created /fakeboot and then bind-mounted it over /boot.  Now /boot has as much space as it needs.  I apt-get -f install.  Then I uninstall the old kernels, and then un-bind-mount and then make /boot have the same stuff as /fakeboot, using rsync with --delete-during or whatever.
[15:15] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: Ubuntu software center u3-tool
[15:16] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: how did you install it
[15:16] <lmat> I've tried tune2fs -U to change the UUID (give it a UUID). The error I get is "Bad magic number in super-block while trying ot open /dev/sdc1", so I've tried restoring a backup superblack to no avail.
[15:16] <Crazyeagle> search for it got the icon click install that's it
[15:16] <Galaxor> blazemore, ikonia: I got stuck, though.  Once I had /fakeboot bind-mounted over /boot, my disk-space problems went away, but now there's dependency problems:  linux-generic : Depends: linux-image-generic (= 3.2.0.43.51) but 3.2.0.48.58 is to be installed
[15:16] <lmat> When I try to mount it, mount wants me to specify the fs (which is a red light in my book), then I specify the fstype and get the above error again.
[15:17] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: did that just now
[15:17] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: you said you installed it from the command
[15:17] <Crazyeagle> no
[15:17] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: ooh I see you installed a command line package
[15:17] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: it will install the binary in /usr/bin
[15:17] <Crazyeagle> from ubuntu sowtware center
[15:17] <Crazyeagle> ok ty i'll try
[15:18] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: I am trying to do this: http://u3-tool.sourceforge.net/
[15:18] <Crazyeagle> ./u3_tool -u /dev/sg3
[15:19] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle: why /dev/sg3?  I thought you said it was /dev/sdf?
[15:19] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: from where ?
[15:19] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: and why ./u3_tool, why not u3_tool
[15:19] <Crazyeagle> sorry just copied the text from link but no I did sdf
[15:19] <Crazyeagle> but got unknown cmd
[15:20] <Yud_Zroc> will insalling KDE applications and the desktop environment screw up unity or gnome?
[15:20] <aiten_44> with ./u3_tool and u3_tool?
[15:20] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: actually got No such file or directory
[15:20] <roxlu> hi guys, I'm trying to install the nvidia-encoder libraries (NVENC), but I'm not sure where to find them (!?)
[15:21] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: show me the exact command you are using, exactly as you type it
[15:22] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: well tried exactly what the instructions on the link said
[15:22] <Crazyeagle> ikonia:  i suppose that is why
[15:22] <Crazyeagle> ok just a sec
[15:22] <sandeepr_ltp> blazemore, grep -v worked. i was giving it in the start and i had to move it to the end "crowbar_machines list |grep -v admin..xx" thanks
[15:22] <Crazyeagle> ./u3_tool -u /dev/sdf
[15:22] <Crazyeagle> that
[15:23] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle remove ./ from the comman
[15:23] <aiten_44> command
[15:23] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: I just told you not to do ./
[15:23] <auronandace> Crazyeagle: so that command would assume you have a script called u3_tool in your current directory
[15:23] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: I told you to do u3_tool not ./u3_tool
[15:23] <ikonia> 1info u3_tool
[15:23] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: though you asked what I did before
[15:23] <ikonia> !info u3_tool
[15:23] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: now I have tried what you suggested
[15:24] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: what is the exact name of the package in software center
[15:24] <Crazyeagle> ikonia:  u3-tool 0.3-1.
[15:24] <aiten_44> I think it should be u3-tool not u3_tool and the U may need to be caps
[15:25] <bmurt> anyone know where i can find the differences between libreadline-gplv2-dev and libreadline6
[15:25] <ikonia> !info u3-tool
[15:25] <bmurt> aside from version #'s
[15:25] <kcmartz> Hello I have an issue with apt-get. Is anyone able to help?
[15:25] <bmurt> libreadline-gplv2-dev is 5.2-11 and libreadline6 is 6.2-8
[15:25] <wheatthin> kcmartz, you need to ask your question
[15:25] <ikonia> kcmartz: depends on the issue
[15:25] <kcmartz> I seem to not have apt-get installed on my machine.
[15:26] <wheatthin> kcmartz, are you sure you didn't use sudo first?
[15:26] <kcmartz> And i'm trying to set up a minecraft server.
[15:26] <kcmartz> it says command not found
[15:26] <algal> I'm wondering how to do a totally non-interactive install from mysql. Does ubuntu have any official docs on that kind of thing?
[15:26] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: aiten_44 yes link is wrong command should be sudo u3-tool -u /dev/sdf
[15:26] <kcmartz> when im sudoing in
[15:27] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: aiten_44 still said: Error opening device: No medium found
[15:27] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: we know this - we've told you why
[15:27] <algal> (sorry, meant a 100% non-interactive install OF mysql.)
[15:27] <antivirtel> hi, 2 questions about Avidemux CLI: Is there multiple audio track support? if yes - how to solve it in CLI? | What is that B frame safe mode, when you can lost the frame accuracy?!
[15:27] <ikonia> algal: sure does
[15:27] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: sorry missed the why then
[15:27] <lmat> Crazyeagle: You're still working on the USB stick?
[15:27] <kcmartz> @wheatthin I get command not found.
[15:27] <wheatthin> kcmartz, did you uninstall it?
[15:27] <ikonia> algal: I'm not aware that the package in the repo asks you anything
[15:27] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: because it's broken - it doens't work in windows, it doesn't work in linux...it's broken
[15:27] <Crazyeagle> lmat: yes! driving me crazy
[15:27] <algal> mysql-server asks you to set a password for mysql's root user.
[15:27] <aiten_44> Crazyeage: do you see any errors when you run dmesg | tail
[15:27] <kcmartz> No, I only put McMyAdmin's directory into the home directory. No other modifications.
[15:28] <ikonia> algal: ok, look at apt-get response files
[15:28] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: no is not one broken now is 2
[15:28] <lmat> Crazyeagle: You've tried it in another computer?
[15:28] <algal> ikonia: and this SO hint ( http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7739645/install-mysql-on-ubuntu-without-password-prompt ) says how to preconfigure the password before installing the package, but then I still get a splash-screen from the package configuration system asking for an OK.
[15:28] <kcmartz> I'm currently using PuTTY to ssh into the machine.
[15:28] <Crazyeagle> lmat: yes I did
[15:28] <algal> ikonia: "apt-get response files"? response files = debconf stuff?
[15:28] <wheatthin> kcmartz, hmm did you overwrite something?
[15:28] <lmat> Crazyeagle: Both USB devices? And did they work ?
[15:29] <Crazyeagle> lmat: you have missed a lot
[15:29] <kcmartz> I don't think so. install works not apt-get
[15:29] <lmat> Crazyeagle: I assume so!!
[15:29] <wheatthin> kcmartz, what do you mean install works?
[15:29] <ikonia> algal: no no, I mean look at response files on the web
[15:29] <lmat> Crazyeagle: no problem, I'll get to work now ^_^
[15:29] <sindri> "ufw allow 21" ought to suffice to open port 21 right? Why then is "telnet localhost 21" refused?
[15:29] <kcmartz> i get missing destination file
[15:29] <kcmartz> but thats the only error
[15:30] <ikonia> sindri: I told you why earlier
[15:30] <wheatthin> telnet is port 23
[15:30] <Crazyeagle> lmat: summary put a usb previously working on win7 into my ubuntu 12.04 lts then ejected, then later reinserted and everything was gone did not show in nautilus
[15:30] <ikonia> sindri: you do'nt have an ftp server running on port 21
[15:30] <ikonia> wheatthin: no - it's not
[15:30] <ikonia> wheatthin: read what he's doing
[15:30] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle: do you see any errors when you type dmesg | tail
[15:31] <Crazyeagle> lmat: then though well just reformat with disk utility but says no medium, then I though forget it just use another one right... well same thing happen
[15:31] <Crazyeagle> no
[15:31] <sindri> but it says it's running D': at least I get about 10 hits using "ps -A | grep "ftp" and vsftpd is listening to port 21 according to config
[15:31] <wheatthin> kcmartz, ?
[15:31] <kcmartz> @wheatthin I get missing destination file
[15:31] <ikonia> sindri: please do "netstat -a | grep LIST" and put the output in a pastebin
[15:32] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle: try just dmesg and look for your usb stick.
[15:32] <Crazyeagle> lmat: [  135.201176] usb 2-1.3: new full-speed USB device number 6 using ehci_hcd [  135.295297] usb 2-1.3: New USB device found, idVendor=1043, idProduct=8006 [  135.295302] usb 2-1.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 [  135.295834] scsi5 : usb-storage 2-1.3:1.0 [  136.295039] scsi 5:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Generic  USB Flash Drive  1.04 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 [  136.296061] sd 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg6 t
[15:33] <Crazyeagle> lmat: go to disk utility device is there gparted is not there
[15:33] <kcmartz> I have the JRE installed but I can't get the JDK installed. That's what I need, mainly.
[15:33] <sindri> ikonia : http://pastebin.com/1TRhzTS9
[15:33] <Crazyeagle> lmat: if i do this sudo parted /dev/sdf unit s print it gets me this: Error: Error opening /dev/sdf: No medium found
[15:33] <ikonia> sindri: nothing listening on 21
[15:33] <wheatthin> kcmartz, my question was, what do you mean by install? isn't that part of compiling?
[15:34] <A1Recon> The icons on my launcher bar went dark (as in black and white). All of them. Does anyone know how I can get them back
[15:34] <A1Recon> ??
[15:34] <kcmartz> I'm more familiar with the .yml config files for my server, not the operating system. So I'm not sure.
[15:34] <A1Recon> I also have a screenshot. I dont know where I should paste it...
[15:34] <kcmartz> I can do some things like wget though.
[15:34] <wheatthin> kcmartz, that has nothing to do with apt-get
[15:34] <Ari-Yang> what is the recommended value for /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold ? (whatever the value is, the cpu will enter full clocking if more than that value is detected, its default is 95 so it will enter full clocking if it's more than 95%)
[15:35] <kcmartz> I know. I can't figure out why it's not installing.
[15:35] <Crazyeagle> lmat: that was a tail syslog
[15:36] <wheatthin> kcmartz, what are you trying to install, and how?
[15:36] <kcmartz> I need the JDK installed then I'm good to go.
[15:36] <wheatthin> kcmartz, which jdk?
[15:37] <kcmartz> I'm thinking the latest version.
[15:37] <sindri> ikonia: But I've set that port in the config of vsftpd and restarted service and all - any idea what I can do to get it to work?
[15:37] <kcmartz> for servers
[15:37] <kcmartz> Since i'm running a 24/7 minecraft server after I get this working.
[15:37] <A1Recon> Where can I paste a screenshot?? I have problem and I think I have to show it to you guys...
[15:37] <ikonia> sindri: it's not running
[15:38] <ikonia> sindri: ps -ef | grep vsfptd, please show me the output in a pastebin
[15:38] <DJones> !paste | A1Recon
[15:38] <wheatthin> kcmartz, umm did you try to install it from ubuntu repo? or is it from their site?
[15:38] <kcmartz> I have no gui, so I can't do this the easy way. and how do I install it from the repo?
[15:39] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle: can you try sudo fdisk -l and paste it so I can see what it looks like
[15:39] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: sure
[15:39] <wheatthin> kcmartz, by    sudo apt-get default-jdk
[15:40] <Crazyeagle> Disk /dev/sda: 37.0 GB, 37019566080 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4500 cylinders, total 72303840 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0008f27d     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sda1   *        2048    64114687    32056320   83  Linux /dev/sda2        64116734  
[15:40] <wheatthin> kcmartz, by    sudo apt-get install default-jdk
[15:40] <wheatthin> sorry thought I added it
[15:40] <kcmartz> but i dont have apt-get for some reason
[15:40] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: sdf is not listed
[15:40] <Crazyeagle> not sure why
[15:40] <wheatthin> kcmartz, I'm unsure why not.
[15:40] <Guest97230> can someone tell me what to do i you lost your desktop ??
[15:41] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: what is disk utility accessing that neither gparted or fdisk can access?
[15:41] <kcmartz> I know that apt-get should be part of the Os from minute one.
[15:41] <sindri> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/UNT0tiF3
[15:41] <mathnode> kcmartz, apt-get does not work for you? How did you install jre?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> odd Crazyeagle , you said you tries sudo fdisk -l , but there was no output
[15:41] <Guest97230> i dont get my desktop anymore ....i have to choose from a list how to boot up
[15:41] <BluesKaj> err tried
[15:41] <kcmartz> not sure, my friend who owns the hardware did that
[15:41] <kcmartz> but he's sleeping right now
[15:42] <mathnode> kcmartz, do you have sudo privileges?
[15:42] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle: I'm not sure why 1 sees it and the other doesn't I'm pretty sure that its a sandisk thing
[15:42] <Crazyeagle> BluesKaj: not that there is no output but sdf is not listed lsusb lists the usb disk utility is listing it but fdisk is not
[15:42] <kcmartz> yes
[15:42] <kcmartz> I can get full root access
[15:42] <A1Recon> http://imagebin.org/263206 The launcher icons at the left are all black. How do i get them back to normal??
[15:43] <mathnode> kcmartz, and you can't to: sudo apt-get install default-jdk  ?
[15:43] <kcmartz> nope
[15:43] <kcmartz> apt-get does not exist for some odd reason.
[15:44] <mathnode> kcmartz, what is the result of: which apt-get
[15:44] <btaylor_> Hi where can I get help with MAAS?
[15:44] <kcmartz> which: no apt-get in (/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/java/java-latest)
[15:45] <mathnode> kcmartz, what is the result of: lsb_release -a ?
[15:45] <Guest97230> normally i always put my password , now it doesnt do that
[15:45] <kcmartz> command not found
[15:45] <Guest97230> what can it be ... i lost al my files on my desktop ??
[15:46] <sindri> ikonia: http://pastie.org/8103747 noticed I couldn't reach my link so here is the same on but on pastie
[15:46] <mathnode> kcmartz, ok how about: cat /etc/*-release | grep -i name
[15:47] <kcmartz> No such file or directory
[15:47] <btaylor_> I try to use maas but but when I boot client it says it can not connect to iscsi daemon?
[15:47] <wheatthin> I'm thinking this isn't ubuntu
[15:47] <mathnode> indeed
[15:48] <A1Recon> http://imagebin.org/263206 The unity launcher icons at the left are all black. How do i get them back to normal??
[15:48] <kcmartz> Thats the only OS my friend's familiar with
[15:48] <mathnode> kcmartz, either your buddy has borked your server, or it's not ubuntu.
[15:48] <kcmartz> It might be a modified version of ubuntu, I believe he mentioned something about mineos, made for minecraft.
[15:49] <Eagleman> What is wrong about this cronjob timings?  47               17             2,14                    *                       *
[15:50] <A1Recon> How do i restart unity or the launcher bar at the side?
[15:50] <aiten_44> A1Recon: did you change themes lately or accidentally set accessibiliy mode?
[15:51] <A1Recon> aiten_44: No
[15:51] <mathnode> kcmartz, mineos is based on CRUX. If that's the case, you should be ready to go.
[15:51] <kcmartz> When i try running the config session i get an error.
[15:51] <mathnode> kcmartz, if it's mineis-on-ubunut, it should be...different to what you are experiencing.
[15:51] <A1Recon> aiten_44: Did u see the image?
[15:52] <Galaxor> My solution that worked:  I downloaded http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-generic_3.2.0.48.58_amd64.deb by hand and installed it with dpkg.
[15:52] <kcmartz> I get "could not automatically find java" when I try to run the final step in my setup for the Minecraft server.
[15:52] <gestahlt> Hiho!
[15:52] <aiten_44> Yea I figured it would be a theme or accessibility option
[15:52] <Eagleman7> What is wrong about this cronjob timings?  47               17             2,14                    *                       *
[15:52] <gestahlt> Is there a Ubuntu Mobile channel?
[15:52] <kcmartz> and I cannot edit the .conf file to point to the install of the JDK (of which there is none)
[15:52] <bazhang> !touch > gestahlt
[15:53] <gestahlt> Thank you!
[15:54] <occ> if i buy a sony vaio laptop can i expect ubuntu to run out of the box, without the need for any weird driver customization?
[15:54] <A1Recon> http://imagebin.org/263206 The launcher icons at the left are all black. How do i get them back to normal?? Will a restart help?
[15:54] <mathnode> kcmartz, mineos is a custom linux distro, you should find out how they support their users or read the documentation.
[15:54] <kcmartz> I'm more familiar with Gentoo or Fedora, unfortunately
[15:54] <kcmartz> not so much Ubuntu
[15:54] <T3X> when i execute this comment ./script.py > output.txt no output saved on output.txt mean while the script is displaying output what could be the problem?
[15:55] <algal> Can anyone here recommend a good book on basic LAMP, but for guys who aren't total newbs? Sort of LAMP the Hard Way ?
[15:55] <kcmartz> so, what your saying is if I put a 'stock install' of Ubuntu on and install the JRE and JDK i should be fine?
[15:55] <algal> I'm an experienced dev but I'm pretty new to the server and now I'm responsible for setting up some cloud stuff that needs to keep running.
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> algal: I'd have a look at recommendations on Amazon
[15:56] <algal> ActionParsnip: Thanks. Just wondering if there were any personal favorites...
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> algal: could ask in lamp based channels too, more specific
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> kcmartz: webupd8 has a ppa for Oracle Java if you need that
[15:56] <Eagleman7> What is wrong about this cronjob timings?  47               17             2,14                    *                       *
[15:56] <algal> ActionParsnip: Okay, didn't know there were such.
[15:57] <gestahlt> OKay ubuntu touch seems rather slow
[15:57] <kcmartz> webpd8, does the OS take much ram? I have 6Gb on it currently.
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> kcmartz: it depends what you run... it can be as light or as heavy as you want
[15:58] <kcmartz> I just need the bare-bones with JRE and JDK.
[15:58] <A1Recon> How can I check if unity is OK? Like I didn't mess it up..
[15:58] <gestahlt> Guys, maybe you got some answers. Im currently running Ubuntu 12 on top of my android phone. I think that is pretty awesome. I like to use it a desktop device and phone same time. One of the bottlenecks is the VNC as Display and thus the lacking video support
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> kcmartz: I have a VM using 110Mb ram, and my main system for media stuff using 846Mb ram
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: try it in a liveCD
[15:59] <TylerB> Hey everyone! I'm trying to write an upstart script and it is having some problems. I would like to be able to manually run it to see the failures in the log, but I don't know how. Right now I'm rebooting after every change. How can I run the upstart script with a command?
[15:59] <gestahlt> Is there a native Ubuntu Mobile app still developed or is there something that does not exist within the market space of google?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> gestahlt: what are you connecting to VNC to achieve?
[15:59] <kcmartz> Because I'm trying to get as much of that 6GB available to the server for a few more slots.
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> kcmartz: then use xubuntu and it will be light
[16:00] <kcmartz> Okay, the friend who owns the hardware woke up and I told him about your recommendations.
[16:00] <gestahlt> ActionParsnip: It's local loopback. The only way afaik to get Ubuntu to display on the phone. Ubuntu is installed of the linuxonandroid app.. at least i did the instructions. And it is even running smoothly
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> gestahlt: ohhh that old thing
[16:00] <mathnode> kcmartz, just plain old ubuntu-server is fine.
[16:00] <gestahlt> Exactly!
[16:01] <kcmartz> Yea, I just need it to work as I have 3 donors on my server who are getting antsy :/
[16:01] <gestahlt> ActionParsnip: Personally, i find it very awesome. Performance could be way better but i havent looked so deeply into it to see how it is interfaced
[16:01] <wheatthin> kcmartz, then reinstall with ubuntu-server
[16:01] <astor> has anyone used the passdev option on ubuntu for encrypted root?
[16:01] <gestahlt> ActionParsnip: So my question is if there is something better or any other apporoaches
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> gestahlt: your phone isn't a power house, so it will be slow
[16:02] <kcmartz> I'll attempt that. If I have any more issues I can try stopping by here. Have a good day everyone.
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> gestahlt: could try just openbox on ts own, no DE
[16:03] <T3X> when i execute this comment ./script.py > output.txt no output saved on output.txt mean while the script is displaying output what could be the problem?
[16:04] <blazemore> T3X: The script is outputting to stderr, use "./script.py 2&> output.txt"
[16:04] <stevePage129> need help with setting up a cluster server / high availability / NFS / etc, post is on askubuntu, and would appreciate help. thanks guys!
[16:04] <stevePage129> http://askubuntu.com/questions/315491/setting-up-cluster-configuration-using-an-existing-web-server-as-a-primary-node
[16:04] <blazemore> stevePage129: Also try #ubuntu-server
[16:04] <stevePage129> ty
[16:05] <gestahlt> ActionParsnip: Well, about powerhouse.. i dont think so. It is very powerful regarding the hardware and power consumptions it has. Im a fan of low power consumption devices and versatile computing.
[16:05] <gestahlt> ActionParsnip: Im actually also thinking about getting myself a odroid board to replace my desktop. I dont game anymore and it fits my needs
[16:05] <COMPUTER_> bonjour les amis
[16:05] <jose1043> hello
[16:06] <jose1043> hello
[16:06] <jose1043> hello
[16:06] <jose1043> hello
[16:06] <FloodBot1> jose1043: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:06] <T3X> blazemore: the 2& detected as an recognized argument by the script
[16:06] <T3X> blazemore: the 2& detected as unrecognized argument by the script
[16:06] <blazemore> Oh whoops
[16:06] <COMPUTER_> puis avoir qqun pour s'exprimer en français
[16:06] <blazemore> T3X: yourcommand &>filename
[16:07] <gestahlt> ActionParsnip: And so i like to somehow do more with my devices. I can connect my TFT over a HDMI cable and keyboard and mouse via bluetooth. So basically you have with a smartphone a full fledged computing device
[16:07] <blazemore> T3X: (redirects both stdout and stderr to filename)
[16:07] <wheatthin> !french | COMPUTER
[16:07] <COMPUTER_> yes french
[16:08] <gestahlt> ActionParsnip: But with Android as OS you have no full fledged Desktop. It is great as mobile, but i need my stuff to work (LibreOffice, Gimp, Rubymine and so on)
[16:08] <jose1043> venezuela
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> !es
[16:08] <COMPUTER_> merci beaucoup
[16:08] <blazemore> I have floodbots ignored, and everything except messages ignored in this channel, so I never get to see the fireworks when people join and spam :P
[16:09] <T3X> blazemore: i believe the script is outputing it to stderr nor stdout
[16:09] <jose1043> ola
[16:09] <jose1043> hola
[16:09] <blazemore> T3X: Yes http://stackoverflow.com/questions/637827/redirect-stderr-and-stdout-in-a-bash-script
[16:09] <occ> if i have a laptop(with ubuntu) and connect it to a hdmi monitor, is it as simple as plug it in and it switchs screen automatically...... or will i have to do some weird configuration of xdefaults or some other config/setup?
[16:09] <blazemore> occ: There's a graphical display configuration utility
[16:10] <blazemore> occ: Look in system settings, it's called Display (or possible Monitors)
[16:11] <occ> ok blaze... i tried that before with multiple monitors on  a pc, it was very buggy though and weird...... i wondered if connecting a laptop to a single monitor would be more quick/easy and stable
[16:12] <blazemore> occ: Again, the graphical config tool is way better than messing around with xrandr etc
[16:12] <blazemore> occ: Although you could install the program "arandr" it's a slightly more advanced monitor config tool
[16:12] <blazemore> It's basically a graphical frontend to the xrandr command-line utility
[16:13] <occ> i see. ill look into that then thanks
[16:13] <T3X> blazemore: i got it
[16:13] <blazemore> T3X: super :)
[16:15] <tannji> blazemore,   do you know if there is a more urrent version of Xrandr out?  I thought someone mentioned it the other day, but I havent found it
[16:15] <blazemore> tannji: Honestly I haven't a clue, what do you need it to do that it doesn't do currently?
[16:16] <tannji> it had a slightly different name, but still randr based
[16:16] <blazemore> I use arandr
[16:16] <tannji> dont need atm...  but at some point will go to multiple monitors +tv....
[16:16] <chro> is there any american here ?
[16:16] <blazemore> I recommend arandr wholeheartedly
[16:16] <tannji> so it still works fine with 13.04 then?
[16:16] <bazhang> !ot | chro
[16:17] <tannji> blazemore,  good to know, thanks
[16:17] <blazemore> (whispers) I don't know tannji , I don't actually use Ubuntu
[16:17] <tannji> shhhhh.... lol
[16:17] <sindri> running screen, and just opened a new screen - user@server(unreachable) - what does this mean?
[16:18] <blazemore> sindri: Do you have an encrypted home directory?
[16:18] <usuario> raimundo {ray tga}
[16:19] <sindri> blazemore, don't think I have no - was a year since I set it up to get familiar with linux and can't think of why I'd do that
[16:19] <reisio> sindri: 'mount' might know
[16:20] <blazemore> reisio: Please run the "mount" command and put the output in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:20] <reisio> sindri: ^
[16:21] <johntron> i'm trying to build my own nginx package for use on about 12 servers. I'd like to stay up-to-date, so I'm trying to figure out how to take nginx's github repo (https://github.com/nginx/nginx) and build a .deb package from it. can someone point me in the right direction?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> reisio: or run:  mount | pastebinit
[16:21] <reisio> johntron: are you modifying it in some special way?
[16:21] <reisio> ActionParsnip: it's sindri
[16:21] <sindri> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5837734/
[16:22] <johntron> reisio: i'm compiling additional modules that aren't included in the current Ubuntu packages or PPA's
[16:22] <reisio> johntron: ah, tedious
[16:22] <blazemore> sindri: Yes, your home directory is encrypted
[16:22] <johntron> reisio: i've already got them compiled and running fine, i just don't know how to package it
[16:22] <blazemore> sindri: Your question now is "How do I use screen with an encrpted home directory?"
[16:23] <reisio> johntron: I'm not sure I'd spend the time if I personally was going to be doing the installing & maintaining
[16:23] <sindri> blazemore: well I be damned :p It has worked just fine so far :D
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> encryptfs is such a headache
[16:23] <reisio> ecrypt, innit?
[16:24] <johntron> reisio: what do you suggest? I'm just trying to avoid compiling manually everytime i want to (re)provision a server
[16:24] <sindri> blazemore: just that managed to exit the other screen and ctrl+a + c to create a new and was met with that
[16:24] <reisio> probably not as much of a headache as the imaginary crack fiend who stole your laptop who also cares about trying to get your banking info... actually getting it
[16:24] <reisio> johntron: just copy the files over
[16:24] <reisio> johntron: if it's the same arch it'll work the same way
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> reisio: funnily enough, most peeps set autologin, which makes it pointless
[16:25] <reisio> ActionParsnip: heh
[16:25] <reisio> there should be more education about it if you choose it at install time
[16:25] <reisio> I s'pose
[16:25] <reisio> but nobody steals laptops to get banking info
[16:25] <reisio> they sell them for $20 to get a tiny amount of drugs
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> reisio: "but i dont want to have to login! It's my pc" whinge whine
[16:25] <gordonjcp> why would your banking info be on your laptop anyway?
[16:25] <reisio> ActionParsnip: yeah that's what my dad says :/
[16:25] <reisio> gordonjcp: why wouldn't it be
[16:26] <reisio> gordonjcp: do your banking by snail mail, do you?
[16:26] <gordonjcp> reisio: no, I use online banking
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> sindri: do you use autologin on your system, or do you have to type a password to get to the desktop?
[16:26] <gordonjcp> reisio: none of my computers have any of my banking information on them though
[16:26] <reisio> gordonjcp: and you don't let it keep you logged in?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> reisio: I use a web interface, no bank details are stored
[16:26] <johntron> reisio: i was thinking about that, but I'm using VirtualBox for development images and my host uses VMware and ESXi. I don't know if copying over the files would work in this case. Also, i'm trying to upgrade from ubuntu 12 to raring, so i know this approach won't work in this instance
[16:26] <reisio> ActionParsnip: but you are informed
[16:26] <reisio> most people remain logged in
[16:26] <sindri> ActionParsnip: it's my server and I have to login using password and username :p
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> reisio: i just use a good bank :)
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> sindri: good
[16:26] <reisio> johntron: should work fine
[16:27] <gordonjcp> reisio: no, and indeed most browsers have an option you can pass to password fields to not let them be auto-filled
[16:27] <hapster> hi. I'm using 13.04 on an optimus laptop. I can run something like DRI_PRIME =1 glxspheres and it has good performance. Does it mean I'm using nouveau against nvidia graphics card?
[16:27] <blazemore> I use lvm encryption on my laptop, and nothing at all on my home workstation
[16:27] <reisio> gordonjcp: to attempt to not let them be :p
[16:27] <gordonjcp> johntron: don't run raring on your servers, keep them on LTS
[16:27] <reisio> and I'm sure well over 5% of banking sites utilize such features :p
[16:27] <reisio> and then there are the people who actually do save a passwords.txt file somewhere
[16:27] <reisio> but we digress
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> oh yeah and "Mr Pin" in thier phone
[16:28] <ezra-s> there is a nice program to keep passwords safe, called Revelation
[16:28]  * ActionParsnip uses lastpass
[16:28] <reisio> I use my brain mostly
[16:28] <reisio> will switch to algorithmic when I can get around to it
[16:28] <blazemore> I use LastPass because multiple devices - but my password is crazy complex; it took me ages to learn it and I can only do it through muscle-memory; I have a hard time entering it on my phone
[16:28] <reisio> blazemore: yeah :/
[16:28] <reisio> stupid phones
[16:29] <ezra-s> reisio, one needs a priviledge brain to remember dozens of different passwords at work...
[16:29] <blazemore> Plus 2-factor-auth which honestly helpos me sleep at night
[16:29] <reisio> I wish I could forget more
[16:29] <reisio> booze to the rescue
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> booze is the answer to many problems, and the cause
[16:29] <blazemore> Hometime \o/ luck ActionParsnip
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: hells yeah!!!
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> oh, if you guys use windows and need grep, i found findstr today, similar functionality. You can even pipe to it
[16:32] <reisio> I can't use windows for more than a few minutes without cygwin
[16:32] <reisio> http://ss64.com/nt/
[16:33] <A1Recon> reisio: Thanks for the link!!
[16:33] <reisio> or http://www.cygwin.com/ as the case may be :p
[16:39] <_alpha_> any chance of some help with a 'GRUB failed to install' error that I described here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/315207/grub-failed-to-install-to-the-following-devices-error-on-upgrade
[16:41] <reisio> _alpha_: grub is usually installed to the first device
[16:41] <reisio> _alpha_: if you're doing a special type of dual boot you might not want that, but otherwise you would
[16:42] <Yud_Zroc> do use KDE should I remove Unity?
[16:42] <Yud_Zroc> to use*
[16:42] <_alpha_> so even if the first device currently has my windows partition on it, I tell grub to install there?
[16:42] <reisio> Yud_Zroc: if you don't plan on ever using it again, sure why not
[16:42] <reisio> _alpha_: typically
[16:42] <deweydb> hello, this is probably going to sound really dumb, but i only know how to install things from source, and not precompiled. i need to install this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/db4.8/4.8.30-11ubuntu1 and i can't figure out for the life of me how to install it
[16:42] <reisio> _alpha_: at that point grub would be responsible for booting Windows also
[16:42] <reisio> _alpha_: which is normal and sane
[16:42] <reisio> _alpha_: but which every now and then people don't want
[16:43] <reisio> _alpha_: if it worries you, boot up windows and backup your boot area first
[16:43] <reisio> _alpha_: with easybcd or the like
[16:43] <reisio> backups are your friend
[16:43] <_alpha_> ok, I'll give it a try, thanks
[16:45] <_alpha_> ok, it doesn't want to install to that device either; that one gives me the error "Path /boot/grub is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation cannot continue"
[16:45] <BenyaminL> Can anyone help me? I just mess up my linux using burg so now i can't boot, i just try boot-repair, but i didn't work for me at all.. Now i'm confused that i can't save my files in linux, can anyone help me'? I need help and suggest, i have 3 live CD
[16:46] <reisio> _alpha_: less to do with the device and more to do with /boot/grub
[16:46] <reisio> _alpha_: what command are you running?
[16:46] <reisio> BenyaminL: what did boot repair say?
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> BenyaminL, Post the bootinfo summary generated by boot repair
[16:48] <_alpha_> I'm not running any particular command, just installing the grub package (having purged it to try and fix this issue on upgrade)
[16:48] <reisio> _alpha_: installing with a GUI?
[16:48] <wilee-nilee> _alpha_, Generally grub would go to the mbr of the HD the linux install is on, if it is a standard msdos partitioning schema.
[16:49] <reisio> wilee-nilee: nope
[16:49] <_alpha_> command line install
[16:49] <wilee-nilee> reisio, The bootloader is, you will be asked where.
[16:49] <_alpha_> ok I just tried installing grub to the 2nd device on the list, that also gives the same error
[16:49] <reisio> _alpha_: okay, but I just aksed you what command and you said none :p
[16:49] <_alpha_> so grub won't install to any of my devices
[16:50] <reisio> wilee-nilee: nope
[16:50] <stevePage129> cluster/NFS/HA question (any help would be greatly appreciated....): http://askubuntu.com/questions/315491/setting-up-cluster-configuration-using-an-existing-web-server-as-a-primary-node
[16:50] <reisio> _alpha_: the problem is with /boot/grub, not the devices
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> reisio, explain then.
[16:50] <reisio> _alpha_: what command did you run?
[16:50] <reisio> wilee-nilee: grub normally goes to the mbr of the first device
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> reisio, BS,
[16:50] <BenyaminL1> Sorry, i just lost connection
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[16:51] <_alpha_> ok :P the command I would have run initially would have been apt-get install grub-pc
[16:51] <BenyaminL1> Anyone can help my problem? I just mess up with burg on my ubuntu
[16:51] <_alpha_> at the moment it's stuck in the configuring grub gui-ascii-type interface in my terminal window
[16:51] <wilee-nilee> reisio, That is a generalization and can cause problems.
[16:51] <reisio> wilee-nilee: ever met a generalization that couldn't?
[16:51] <wilee-nilee> lol
[16:53] <BenyaminL1> _alpha_: can you help me? I just mess up my computer... I using burg and i use super-boot-manager edit it, make os-prober above linux and now my linux won't boot, grub can load burg.. And that make a sense.. I can't open my files using live cd...
[16:53] <simba66> several programs e.g. nginx try to access /var/log but its permissions are set to root. Should I change the permissions to the user? How were they supposed to work by default?
[16:53] <reisio> simba66: do you have some reason to believ ethey aren't working as they would have by default now?
[16:53] <wilee-nilee> BenyaminL1, Post the bootinfo summary that was automatically generated with bootrepair, it tells you to save the url.
[16:54] <simba66> reisio, I haven't changed a thing, i installed the packages from the official repository and ran the programs
[16:55] <cha0x1> hi i want to ask why ubuntu 13.04 asks me to upgrade/install kde packages like akonadi,kate etc and I have never installed any of them and I m not using kde. is there any way to remove them?
[16:55] <reisio> cha0x1: you probably installed KDE at some point
[16:55] <wilee-nilee> cha0x1, What desktop do you have, and have you added any kde apps?
[16:55] <BenyaminL1> Ok, i'll try, now i wana boot again the Live cd.. I think my uncle will kill me tomorrow.. It's 11 pm....
[16:56] <cha0x1> resio i dont have installed kde
[16:56] <cha0x1> wilee-nilee, Unity
[16:56] <wilee-nilee> cha0x1, As painful as it is I agree with reisio. ;)
[16:56] <reisio> BenyaminL: defend yourself :p
[16:56] <BenyaminL> Hahaha....
[16:57]  * BenyaminL thinks again...
[16:57] <reisio> cha0x1: dpkg -l | grep -i kde
[16:57] <cha0x1> reisio, i have made it
[16:57] <reisio> cha0x1: hrmm?
[16:57] <cha0x1> reisio, there are kdelibs installed and kde python and akonandi
[16:57] <cha0x1> reisio, i dont know why
[16:57] <Sidhu> guys I am doing a clean install on Lenovo T510 Laptop. I would like to re-install windows 7 but also dual boot with ubuntu. Is the best way to just partition about 30gb for ubuntu and install after installing Windows?
[16:58] <reisio> cha0x1: unless you're particularly worried that someone used your system without your knowledge, just uninstall what you don't want
[16:58] <reisio> done
[16:58] <cha0x1> reisio, is there any way to find if these are dependencies of a program?
[16:58] <reisio> Sidhu: that should work fine
[16:58] <wilee-nilee> Sidhu, Widows first yes, ubuntu your choice 30 gigs will be fine.
[16:58] <wilee-nilee> Windows*
[16:59] <reisio> cha0x1: yes, but I don't know them, someone else will
[16:59] <Sidhu> Ok thank you. Wanted to double check. Have not used ubuntu since 9.04
[16:59] <BenyaminL> Hahaha, same as me
[16:59] <BenyaminL> ==a
[16:59] <Peyam> tested unity yestarday.. ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[16:59] <Peyam> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[16:59] <BenyaminL> My first ubuntu that shiped to indonesia... Ubuntu 9.04 LTS
[17:00] <BenyaminL> Using MIR?
[17:00] <BenyaminL> Any body have info about MIR?
[17:00] <wilee-nilee> !tmi > Peyam
[17:00] <gordonjcp> BenyaminL: did you get the disk posted out?
[17:00] <BenyaminL> Does other DE will use MIR to?
[17:00] <BenyaminL> Gordonjcp: what disk?
[17:00] <wilee-nilee> BenyaminL, There is a mir channel.
[17:00] <gordonjcp> BenyaminL: 9.04
[17:00] <BenyaminL> Ok, #MIR ?
[17:01] <Peyam> !itm > wilee-nilee
[17:01] <BenyaminL> Hmm.. I don't think so
[17:01] <Peyam>  !tmi > wilee-nilee
[17:01] <gordonjcp> BenyaminL: the idea is that toolkits will link against mir instead of X
[17:01] <BenyaminL> I don't get the point that you talk to me, really, sorry my mind really confused...
[17:01] <wilee-nilee> BenyaminL, #ubuntu-mir   I do, lol
[17:01] <gordonjcp> BenyaminL: so from the DE point of view, you call Gtk libraries and they make stuff happen, you don't care how
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> !who > BenyaminL
[17:02] <circle> GorDon GeCkO
[17:03] <Peyam> wilee-nilee: stop?
[17:04] <Peyam> what did he say? DJones
[17:04] <Peyam> ?
[17:04] <Peyam> MIR ? the nuclear program?
[17:04] <BenyaminL> Wilee-nilee: WWhy me??
[17:05] <Peyam> no no soory. that wast something else
[17:05] <BenyaminL> Wilee-nilee: what problem?
[17:05] <akurilin> Does anybody know what's going to happen to the ruby package on Ubuntu 12.04 now that 1.8.7 is deprecated? Is there any way to know if it will be moved up to 2.0?
[17:05] <Peyam> !who > Peyam
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> !grub > wilee-nilee
[17:05] <Peyam> !grub > Peyam
[17:05] <BenyaminL> !who wilee-nilee
[17:05] <Pici> !msgthebot
[17:05] <Peyam> nice
[17:06] <Peyam> !google > Peyam
[17:06] <Peyam> haha nice
[17:06] <Peyam> I didn't know this
[17:06] <Pici> Peyam: please /msg ubottu, instead of using it in the channel
[17:06] <Peyam> is it the samethin as !google | Peyam
[17:06] <Pici> yes
[17:06] <Peyam> no
[17:07] <BenyaminL> !who > Peyam
[17:07] <Afflicto> Hey all. I'm trying to install ubuntu (latest 64bit release) on my laptop. It detects my usb mouse but not the touchpad or keyboard. Any idea?
[17:07] <BenyaminL> !who > wilee-nilee
[17:07] <DJones> !botabuse | BenyaminL
[17:07] <Pici> BenyaminL: knock it off.
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> I don't get pm's
[17:07] <BenyaminL> Hmm..
[17:07] <Peyam> wilee-nilee: if I wan to ask ubottu how do I do?
[17:07] <BenyaminL> Ok i'll go out
[17:07] <BenyaminL> I just waiting boot
[17:07] <Peyam> !grub > ubottu
[17:08] <DJones> Peyam: Stop that
[17:08] <Peyam> okej
[17:08] <Peyam> But how do I ask ubottu stuff that can be shown in the channel?
[17:09] <genii> Peyam: It is better to use the bot sparingly in the channel, so to avoid unnecessary spamming.
[17:09] <A1Recon> Sidhu: Heck I run ubuntu with only 15 Gigs. U should be OK.
[17:09] <Seveas> Peyam: /msg ubottu whatever_you_want_to_ask_about -- or browse the database at ubottu.com
[17:09] <DJones> Peyam: It only needs to go in the channel if you're giving the information to somebody else, if its just for yourself, its better to use "/msg ubottu factoid"
[17:09] <Peyam> okej
[17:10] <BenyaminL> How to bring ubottu to other chanel? To indonesian chanel
[17:13] <genii> BenyaminL: An official representative from the Indonesian channel should ask in someplace like #ubuntu-irc about it.
[17:14] <cyberjose> Hi peole :-)
[17:14] <cyberjose> Anyone know how to put confirmation when replacing files in ubuntu server?
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> Afflicto, have you looked on the web with your computer model for these problems, if not post the model.
[17:16] <Guest10547> Hey guys.
[17:16] <Guest10547> How's it going?
[17:16] <BenyaminL> genii: thx allot
[17:16] <wilee-nilee> Guest10547, Would be better if you used a real nick.
[17:16] <BenyaminL> Bitly slow.. 7kb/s
[17:16] <Ponch0> Is anyone else having issues with wifi specifically rlt8723? I seem to find a lot of problems with the card online but nothing that's helped this horrendous connection
[17:17] <Guest10547> I had a real nick.
[17:17] <Guest10547> But it said that I was now known as this name.
[17:17] <BenyaminL> Change you nick using /nick
[17:17] <Guest10547> Testing?
[17:17] <Guest10547> Nope. :(
[17:17] <cyberjose> I man ... Anyone know how to put confirmation when replacing files in ubuntu server?
[17:17] <Ponch0> RTL8723 rather
[17:18] <Seveas> Guest10547: that nick was already registered. Come up with an unused one :)
[17:18] <Guest10547> ooo
[17:18] <Guest10547> i see
[17:18] <sgo11> hi, how can I open a maildir format mail text file? I need to download an attachment from that file. thanks.
[17:19] <Guest10547> testing?
[17:19] <Guest10547> no
[17:19] <Guest10547> let me reconnect
[17:19] <Seveas> sgo11: a maildir is a dir, not a single file. Do you mean an mbox file?
[17:19] <Seveas> If so, try opening it with mutt.
[17:19] <lgp171188> I have installed Saucy daily image on a VM in Virtualbox with 1 GB RAM. I noticed that the animations in the desktop are very slow inside the VM. Is there some way to improve it or disable it?
[17:19] <sgo11> Seveas, the file under maildir. not mbox.
[17:19] <sgo11> Seveas, I am using maildir/ format instead of mbox.
[17:20] <dray> hi
[17:20] <Seveas> sgo11: so it's a single mail? Just open it with evolution
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> !saucy | lgp171188
[17:20] <Seveas> or mutt again :)
[17:20] <Guest10547> hey i was wondering if someone could give me some feedback on something i wrote? it's a review of the latest evil dead film.
[17:20] <sgo11> Seveas, yeah, it's a single file. How can I open it with evolution? I tried that. it's not working. I haven't installed mutt yet. thanks.
[17:21] <lgp171188> wilee-nilee: Thanks for pointing me to the right channel.
[17:21] <btaylor_> how can I get MAAS to work?
[17:21] <btaylor_> I need to deploy many ubuntu
[17:21] <btaylor_> ubunti
[17:21] <btaylor_> ubunties
[17:22] <sgo11> Seveas, let me install mutt first and try mutt. evolution is not working.
[17:22] <Peyam> evolution is always a problem
[17:22] <Peyam> that's why I choosed thunderbird
[17:23] <Seveas> all mailclients suck. Mutt just sucks least, it merely segfaults all the time :)
[17:23] <ur0pl> hi
[17:23] <reisio> hi ur0pl
[17:23] <ur0pl> sudo echo "new source" >> /etc/sources.list   says permission denied . do any of you know why?
[17:24] <Seveas> ur0pl: echo "new source" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:24] <Seveas> the redirect is not done by sudo but your shell
[17:24] <ur0pl> okay
[17:25] <sgo11> Seveas, I tried mutt -f mailmessage, it throws an error: mailmessage is not a mailbox.
[17:26] <Seveas> sgo11: try mutt -H
[17:26] <reisio> seems like a straightforward message to me
[17:26] <sgo11> Seveas, thanks a lot. that works.
[17:26] <Seveas> sgo11: or mutt -f /path/to/maildir/
[17:27] <reisio> or just realizing what -f is for
[17:27] <Seveas> I read my postmaster@ mail with mutt -f /var/spam/postmaster
[17:27] <Seveas> only 1 in 1000 messages is not spam :)
[17:27] <led> have any soft tha trace phone numbers
[17:27] <led> ??/
[17:27] <Guest1940> hello
[17:28] <reisio> even if email didn't get spam and were secure, it'd still be antiquated
[17:28] <Guest1940> ı have a question
[17:28] <reisio> xmpp
[17:28] <reisio> Guest1940: prove it :)
[17:28] <dirac_> Hi, i have an Intel Atom Dual Core N2600 with 2 gb of ram. Is better to install  ubuntu 12.04.2  32 bit version or 64 bit version?
[17:28] <sgo11> Seveas, but that is still not really user readable. I can still not see the attachment. only see base64 encoded texts. that is the same with viewing with vim. any ideas how to download the attachments? thanks.
[17:28] <reisio> led: hrmm?
[17:28] <Guest1940> is there anybody for my question ?
[17:28] <bekks> dirac_: Nowadays, as long as your hardware supports 64bit, use 64bit.
[17:28] <reisio> dirac_: 64-bit
[17:28] <reisio> Guest1940: only if you ever present one
[17:29] <Guest1940> blackubuntu or backtrack which one do you suggest?
[17:29] <wilee-nilee> lol
[17:29] <Seveas> hm, mutt should be picking up the attachments and allowing you to save them. Are you sure the mail is not corrupted? Alternatively, copy the file, remove all but the base64-encoded attachments and run it through base64 -d :)
[17:29] <bekks> Guest1940: Ubuntu. Neither Blackbuntu nor backtrack is supported in here.
[17:29] <sgo11> Seveas, thanks. I will try that.
[17:30] <Guest1940> okey which one should ı install ?
[17:30] <Seveas> Guest1940: Ubuntu.
[17:30] <reisio> Guest1940: they're probably both Ubuntu
[17:30] <reisio> so whichever has the best wallpaper
[17:30] <Guest1940> okey ı got it.
[17:30] <Guest1940> but ubuntu have a nice graphics
[17:30] <dirac_> i  read that 2 gb of ram are few for 64 bit...is it true?
[17:31] <Guest1940> design
[17:31] <bekks> dirac_: No.
[17:31] <dirac_> ok thank you
[17:31] <reisio> dirac_: are few?...
[17:32] <Guest1940> another question is that what is the difference between KDE , Gnome?
[17:32] <Guest1940> kde blackubuntu or gnome blackubuntu ?
[17:32] <reisio> Guest1940: that is mostly subjective
[17:32] <bekks> Guest1940: No blackbuntu.
[17:32] <reisio> Guest1940: try them and see which you prefer
[17:32] <xangua> Guest1940: only ubuntu is supported here
[17:33] <xangua> and oficial derivates*
[17:33] <reisio> the only substantial differences are that KDE prefers C++ over C, and GNOME prefers C over C++, and
[17:33] <reisio> KDE's graphical toolkit is maintained by a commercial entity
[17:33] <Guest1940> okey thank you for replyinh.
[17:35] <ZeffyUGH> I'm having problems :|
[17:35] <rawrmonster> reisio: gnome is community driven?
[17:35] <ZeffyUGH> to the max
[17:35] <reisio> rawrmonster: yes
[17:35] <dill> i had some issues with ubuntu after installing fresh, some prograns (opera, skype) wont launch even seems they have launche. but in this install there are 2 accounts the second one works no problems at all. any suggestions?.
[17:36] <bekks> dill: start the program in question in a terminal, to see the errors.
[17:36] <dirac_> i read that 64 bit programs need much ram...
[17:36] <ZeffyUGH> Anytime i try to save image as/set as desktop etc from inside firefox or chromium, they freeze. Am I dumb, or any suggestions?
[17:36] <reisio> dirac_: nope
[17:36] <bekks> dirac_: They dont need more than 32bit.
[17:36] <dill> bekks: i did already and no message at all, terminal stay blank.
[17:36] <ZeffyUGH> *desktop background
[17:36] <ripplebit> ubuntu is running really slowly, laptop overheating
[17:37] <Peyam> ripplebit: what is ur pc's specifications?
[17:37] <ripplebit> Peyam: Lenovo E320
[17:37] <dirac_> it's ok thank you
[17:37] <reisio> ripplebit: overheating?
[17:37] <Afflicto> So I just installed 13.04 64bit on my laptop. Touchpad & keyboard not working except for in the grub menu. help!
[17:37] <Peyam> ripplebit: Amd / Intel?
[17:37] <ripplebit> reisio: yeah
[17:37] <ripplebit> Peyam: Intel
[17:37] <reisio> ripplebit: meaning what, it's hot?
[17:37] <dill> noa that i try get this (operapluginwrapper-native:4776): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'apps.gecko-mediaplayer.preferences' is not installed
[17:38] <Mammutpanzer> Hello I am running a server with Linux Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I would like to add 2 deamons to "start on boot" as a specified user. I searched online and found a way to add the deamons to "start on boot" but there is nothing about as which users they will be run. Can anyone help me?
[17:38] <Peyam> Lenovo computers had problems with ubunut..
[17:38] <ripplebit> reisio: I've got the bottom casing off, and the heat sink it really hot
[17:38] <ripplebit> is*
[17:38] <reisio> ripplebit: heat sinks usually are...
[17:38] <ZeffyUGH> Anytime i try to save image as/set as desktop etc from inside firefox or chromium, they freeze. Am I dumb, or any suggestions?
[17:38] <dill> if i delete the folder .opera it launch no issues at all, i reinstall twice already.
[17:38] <reisio> ripplebit: what makes you think it's hotter than it should be?
[17:38] <Peyam> ripplebit: the overheat problem is not new with Lenovo computers
[17:39] <ripplebit> reisio: then what's causing it to lag? when it's not hot, ubuntu runs fine
[17:39] <rawrmonster> O I am having an odd issue that i have never had before on ubuntu. When i go to ubuntu software center and try to re-download some stuff like steam and amnesia. The picture of the software shows but when i click on it, it says that the software is not in my repo's?
[17:39] <ripplebit> or vice versa
[17:39] <bekks> dill: So you dont need to reinstall. You just messed upped your .chrome folder somehow. Delete it, and you are fine, as you just told us.
[17:39] <Peyam> reisio: it is. Im running ubuntu on my E330 and it becoms hot. I even contacted Lenovo still no answers
[17:39] <ripplebit> Peyam: I did read that somewhere
[17:39] <reisio> ripplebit: it's probably hotter the more you do with it; and the more you do, the fewer resources there are to go around, hence "lag"
[17:39] <Peyam> ripplebit: Sorry I dunno know the solution to ur problem. but please contact me if you figure it out some how
[17:39] <reisio> I'm not sure you have an actual problem, other than not being rich enough to afford a ridiculously overpowered laptop
[17:39] <dill> .chrome? no is .opera but if i delete i lost all preferences and what about skype not launching?
[17:40] <bekks> dill: Your preferences make it crash. ;)
[17:40] <bekks> dill: Did you try the same with skype?
[17:40] <ripplebit> reisio: it used to work fine, this happened when i installed ubuntu
[17:40] <dill> yes and nothing happens
[17:41] <Peyam> dill: are you usin i32 architecture?
[17:41] <reisio> ripplebit: what was the old OS?
[17:41] <Peyam> !skype > dill
[17:41] <ripplebit> reisio: windows
[17:41] <reisio> ripplebit: which version
[17:41] <ripplebit> 7
[17:41] <dill> peyam:yes
[17:41] <reisio> k
[17:42] <dill> !skype
[17:46] <EG27> hola
[17:46] <reisio> shalom
[17:48] <nurow> KyouReeUs4nfo IT WORKED!
[17:48] <dill> os_bar_set_parent: assertion `OS_IS_BAR (bar)' failed
[17:48] <dill> now i got this on terminal
[17:48] <dill> something is creating conflicts
[17:49] <bekks> dill: Thats just an asserzion, nothing harmful.
[17:49] <dill> bekks: what you mean?
[17:49] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow: wasn't my solution, I just surfed around. Thanks for trying.
[17:50] <bekks> dill: That message is nothing to worry about.
[17:50] <dill> ok, but still is not launching opera
[17:51] <SuperLag> dill: still trying to get that Opera to work, eh? :)
[17:54] <nurow> Anyone ever gotten a Corsair K90 keyboard to work properly in Ubuntu?
[17:54] <reisio> nurow: why, got one?
[17:55] <nurow> yes in deed i do. the numlock and caplocks don't work, and I have no way to set up macros on my G keys
[17:55] <reisio> nurow: does it have a function lock key?
[17:57] <nurow> Reisio, theres a terrible fix here: http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?p=594643
[17:57] <nurow> it's not related to a function lock, but rather a claim that the problem is the linux kernal?
[17:57] <nurow> it supposedly works in Fedora
[17:57]  * reisio shrugs
[17:57] <reisio> what's wrong with the fix?
[17:59] <nurow> you have to run a command at start up every time, and the keyboard seems to only work properly in command line, not X
[17:59] <nurow> and the scroll lock continues to not work
[17:59] <flux242> hi, just ufter the installation I performed apt-get update/upgrade. The kernel image and headers blah-blah.19 were installed. After rebooting in the update center the blah-blah.25 kernel version were available. Now, why the hell wasn't it possible to install .25 kernel with the first upgrade?
[17:59] <nurow> and the brightness control opens the calculator... f'ing annoying
[18:01] <SnowShoes> Is it possible to rotate the unity shell~ Ubuntu 13.04?
[18:01] <reisio> undoubtedly
[18:03] <nomad411> Stop me if you heard this one before..  Help!!?  :)
[18:04] <reisio> nomad411: stop
[18:04] <nomad411> By mistake, I changed owership on everything under /var to www-data:www-data
[18:04] <nomad411> So, I've now tried to fix it by doing same with root:root
[18:05] <bekks> nomad411: And you messed it up even more :)
[18:05] <nomad411> excepy Mysql won,t start.  I'm wondering if the sockets and stuff under /var/run are usually some other permissions, and/or what could I do to get a healthy system back
[18:05] <bekks> nomad411: Restore your backup.
[18:05] <nurow> how do I add a command to my startup programs?
[18:05] <nomad411> bekks: At least for Mysql
[18:06] <nomad411> I'd love to discover that there is a global command that does a permission check like on Macs.. :)
[18:07] <bekks> nomad411: Which wont help you, since your database contains user-defined files, etc.
[18:08] <nomad411> bekks: I don't follow?
[18:08] <bekks> nomad411: When creating a new database, e.g. it will be saved in files that are not contained in the mysql package.
[18:08] <nomad411> The db files are not under /var are they?
[18:08] <iceroot>  /var/lib/mysql/
[18:09] <tdn> I need help debugging NFSv4. I have created some exports on the server. I can see the mounts on the client using showmount -e. When I try to mount shares, however, it just hangs on the client. I mount with: mount.nfs4 corvina:/exports/video /net/video    I have disabled firewall. I do not see anything in the logs. What to do next?
[18:09] <nomad411> ooooooooh
[18:09] <nomad411> mamamamamamama
[18:09] <lllsondowlll> Has anyone attempted to image a fresh installation for their system to a live persistant cd image, attached than image to something lets say a ssd, and then went on to mount everything but root dependencies to disk? Do you think that running from RAM would show a significant increase? I'm thinking of attempting it just to see.
[18:09] <nomad411> This is sooo not the time for this!?
[18:09] <holstein> tdn: i might troubleshoot permissions
[18:10] <tdn> holstein, which permissions? On the file system? I am root on the client. I have no_root_squash. Also, if it were permissions, why would it hang? Shouldn't it just give me an error?
[18:11] <pero_p> why this command does not work?? sudo chroot --userspec="ehsan : root" /var/chroot/precise/ ; i have user ehsan under root group, but it says invalid user :|
[18:11] <holstein> tdn: if you have permission, you have permission
[18:11] <pero_p> why this command does not work?? sudo chroot --userspec="ehsan:root" /var/chroot/precise/ ; i have user ehsan under root group, but it says invalid user :|
[18:11] <holstein> !patience | pero_p
[18:11] <nomad411> bekks  iceroot  Any suggestions?  I'm now asking in #mysql
[18:12] <pero_p> holstein, sorry but i have to remove those spaces from command :p
[18:12] <bekks> nomad411: Restore your backup.
[18:12] <tdn> holstein, ok, so what to check next?
[18:13] <nomad411> well, that migth be a few days old. :(
[18:13] <nomad411> I'm starting with this: chown -R mysql:mysql mysql
[18:14] <bekks> nomad411: Look at your backup, to see the correct permissions.
[18:14] <KyouReeUs4nfo> while you are chilling /idling >> mplayer -cache 2048 http://mp2.somafm.com:8200 (Space Station - 24/7 on)
[18:14] <reisio> mmm, good idea, spacestation
[18:14] <resure> How can I turn off alt+mouse to move window? I need alt+click in some applications, but is doesn't work.
[18:14] <pero_p> problem solved! :) sudo chroot --userspec=1000 /var/chroot/precise/  worked!
[18:16] <nomad411> bekks: I use an unmanaged VPS and we do not have access to backups that way. I'm almost ready to implement a replication between 2 servers and now I think I might accelerate that!  If I get the web stuff to work well again, I might migrate it to a new server with a fresh and good install to avoid susprises down the road
[18:16] <bekks> nomad411: Replication is not a backup. Rethink your strategy entirely.
[18:16] <Maria> join #+18
[18:16] <holstein> !info nfswatch
[18:17] <holstein> tdn: maybe something like ^^
[18:17] <holstein> !nfs
[18:17] <tdn> holstein, on server or client?
[18:17] <holstein> or, if that page refernces a helpful log file ^^
[18:17] <holstein> tdn: the information i read implies that it runs serverside
[18:18] <rocky> hey guys i just installed 12.04 on an old computer of mine and it wont show flash
[18:18] <tdn> holstein, ok.
[18:18] <rocky> its installed it, but youtube just gives me a black screen
[18:18] <holstein> rocky: i use the chrome browser, which is the only way to have current flash in linux
[18:18] <reisio> rocky: what's installed?
[18:18] <rocky> flash
[18:18] <rocky> i tried chrome
[18:19] <reisio> rocky: there is no package named 'flash'
[18:19] <rocky> even tried the html5 version of youtube
[18:19] <holstein> rocky: you can also try html5 in youtube via http://www.youtube.com/html5
[18:19] <reisio> please be specific
[18:19] <rocky> so i installed the restricted extras
[18:19] <holstein> rocky: chrome... not chromium https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/ .. amd im not implying its better, or that you should use it.. just that is *is* the only recent flash for linux
[18:20] <rocky> ahhhh
[18:20] <Maria> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[18:20] <Maria> http://192.168.126.128:8080/myphoto
[18:20] <rocky> ok i will get rid of chromium and try chrome
[18:20] <tdn> holstein, running it on the server now when trying to mount from the client. How do I parse this data?
[18:20] <bekks> Maria: Stop it please. And use your time to leran about non-routable IP addresses instead.
[18:20] <tdn> holstein, it says 0 dropped
[18:21] <holstein> rocky: no need to "get rid" of anything.. i never meant to, again, imply that anything should be replaced.. just that chrome is a troubleshooting step, due to the fact i mentioned
[18:21] <rocky> right ok i'll give it a shot
[18:22] <nomad411> bekks: I agree.  I do use DO for backups, and CMS-Commander for the WP websites themselves.  Just not all setup yet..  I have MySQL fixed. Yay!!
[18:23] <nomad411> Now I think I'll export DB and websites, and then rebuild from backup before putting back the files and DB
[18:23] <holstein> tdn: i would ask in a server channel for specifics...
[18:23] <holstein> tdn: otherwise, if you have data, feel free and pastebin it..
[18:23] <tdn> holstein, I have asked in #ubuntu-server, no reply.
[18:23] <tdn> holstein, data from nfswatch?
[18:24] <holstein> tdn: you should wait patiently in *-server for a few days
[18:24] <holstein> tdn: *any* relevant data
[18:24] <tdn> holstein, http://paste.yt/p2699.html
[18:24] <tdn> holstein, this is ^ from nfswatch.
[18:25] <holstein> tdn: are you connecting via the IP?
[18:25] <tdn> on the client it just hangs until after a few minutes it says: mount.nfs4: Connection timed out
[18:25] <tdn> holstein, DNS name
[18:25] <DSFARGEG_> hi! anyone can helpme? i have drivers problems
[18:25] <tdn> holstein, have tried uding IP also.
[18:26] <holstein> tdn: i would try with IP and share any errors in whatever logs you are finding
[18:26] <rocky> holstein, i clicked on the link for chrome and saved the file, it just takes me to software center
[18:26] <occ> whats the best tool for burning an iso? something simple
[18:26] <holstein> DSFARGEG_: you ask, and a volunteer might try and assist
[18:27] <holstein> occ: "best" is a matter of opionion.. i would try what you have installed. brasero should work fine, and works for me
[18:27] <DSFARGEG_> where i need to ask? here?
[18:27] <holstein> rocky: the software center should be offering to install the .deb you downloaded
[18:27] <bekks> DSFARGEG_: You need to actually, yes :)
[18:27] <adamk> DSFARGEG_: This channel is for Ubuntu support.  If you need help with Ubuntu, you ask here.
[18:27] <adamk> DSFARGEG_: You do not need to ask to ask.
[18:28] <holstein> DSFARGEG_: check the topic, and if its relevant to the channels, ask..
[18:28] <DSFARGEG_> sory, my english is very limited =S
[18:28] <rocky> holstein: for some reason it's just taking me to the main screen
[18:28] <Pici> DSFARGEG_: What is your native language?
[18:28] <DSFARGEG_> spanish
[18:29] <holstein> rocky: this is from searching "ubuntu install .deb file" http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg21t2.htm
[18:29] <Pici> !es | this may be more helpful DSFARGEG_
[18:29] <DSFARGEG_> tnks
[18:30] <yhsheng> ??
[18:30] <yhsheng> 这是什么？
[18:30] <praka> Hi Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't have sound
[18:31] <praka> What can I do?
[18:31] <resure> Hm. Alt-tab in >= 12.02  should switch between applications, not windows, right?
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> praka  open a terminal and type     alsamixer
[18:31] <holstein> !sound | praka
[18:31] <holstein> praka: try pavucontrol
[18:31] <JaZZyCooL> hey guys need help with the error
[18:32] <holstein> JaZZyCooL: what error?
[18:32] <tdn> holstein, I see nothing in the logs neither on server nor client.
[18:32] <Kitt3n> Is HDMI audio in ubuntu 13.04 disabled when using the latest AMD drivers? (NOT radeon)
[18:32] <JaZZyCooL> wait I will write down in the pastebin and message in just a minute
[18:32] <Kenjin_> Hello
[18:33] <Kenjin_> Can someone tell me if there's a better place to ask about sysstat memory measurements?
[18:33] <holstein> Kenjin_: maybe a hardware channel
[18:33] <JaZZyCooL> here is my problem sir
[18:33] <JaZZyCooL> http://pastebin.com/9vG4n3qq
[18:33] <rocky> holstein: thanks for your help
[18:34] <holstein> !uefi | JaZZyCooL
[18:35] <holstein> JaZZyCooL: http://askubuntu.com/questions/211339/windows-8-wont-boot-after-installation-of-12-10 might be relevant
[18:36] <holstein> JaZZyCooL: i would ask the *actual* question in the channel, and post relevant details, when asked, in the pastebin
[18:36] <JaZZyCooL> I already went there and checked to the solution the I thinkm I have to use the boot-repair but still not sure because as I said I also want to install crunchbang
[18:36] <holstein> JaZZyCooL: #! is not suppported here
[18:36] <Kitt3n> JaZZyCooL, boot up a livecd of ubuntu and run boot-repair
[18:37] <holstein> !bootrepair > JaZZyCooL
[18:37] <JaZZyCooL> ok but I think I will first try out the holstein solution
[18:37] <holstein> JaZZyCooL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:37] <Kitt3n> Boot-repair and a fix to the postinstall script if you get the nice grub-efi bug
[18:37] <holstein> JaZZyCooL: boot repair will just do that.. repair the boot, ideally finding *all* operating systems and making them boot properly
[18:38] <Kitt3n> ^
[18:38] <holstein> Kitt3n: we'll have to try and get a "bootrepair" bot response :)
[18:38] <JaZZyCooL> oh ok thanks a lot sir
[18:38] <Kitt3n> Good idea
[18:38] <Kitt3n> JaZZyCooL, one thing though!
[18:39] <syntax_error> hey folks
[18:39] <JaZZyCooL> I highly appreciate your help to all guys thanks
[18:39] <motaka2> hello when I want to paste something in /var/www the paste option is disabled
[18:39] <Kitt3n> If Boot-repair says it "failed", try reboot anyway
[18:39] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Kenjin_: Thanks for coining the word sysstat. I liked this first link I looked at: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/03/sar-examples/ You may leave a question for me and I would see if I can help you by being a navigator.
[18:39] <holstein> motaka2: you likely dont have permission..
[18:40] <JaZZyCooL> also how can I install and replace grub 1.99 with 2.0
[18:40] <holstein> JaZZyCooL: run the boot repair, and get your OS's booting.. you should have no need to upgrade grub
[18:40] <bekks> JaZZyCooL: 1.99 actually is 2.
[18:40] <bekks> JaZZyCooL: .9x was grub1, 1.9x is grub2.
[18:41] <JaZZyCooL> One last question if you guys don't mind
[18:41] <holstein> !ask | JaZZyCooL
[18:41] <Kitt3n> JaZZyCooL, in Boot-repair just click on 'purge bootloader' and it should guide you through the uninstallation of the old bootloader.
[18:41] <syntax_error> I have a GUI question. When I drag a window up to the global menu, the top of the windows disappears under it. How to I get to it?
[18:41] <samgabbay> how do i get rid of ubuntu and keep xubuntu\
[18:41] <Kitt3n> We ooobviously don't mind!
[18:41] <bekks> samgabbay: Install xubuntu, start it. :)
[18:42] <Kitt3n> You could also just uninstall all the programs that comes with Ubuntu.
[18:42] <samgabbay> bekks i did but i have ubuntu and xubuntu i just waanna remove ubuntu how do i do that
[18:42] <samgabbay> without reinstalling
[18:42] <JaZZyCooL> I also want to install crunchbang along side ubuntu and windows 8, keeping the ubuntu EFI grub as the master grub so that I can boot into all the OS without changing the boot mode (UEFI or Legacy)
[18:42] <holstein> samgabbay: why? disk space? theres no other reason really...
[18:42] <bekks> samgabbay: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[18:42] <JaZZyCooL> Is that possible
[18:42] <samgabbay> thanks bekks and holstein
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> samgabbay  try sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop;sudo apt-get autoremove
[18:42] <holstein> JaZZyCooL: crunchbang is not supported here.. there is nothing about ubuntu preventing you from installing whatever you want
[18:42] <Kitt3n> JaZZyCooL, install crunchbang first, then boot up Boot-repair
[18:43] <Kitt3n> The old bootloader from crunchbang should bother Boot-repair :)
[18:43] <Kitt3n> Shouldn't*
[18:43] <Kitt3n> Dang it
 so how can I solve that problem
[18:44] <samgabbay> thanks
[18:44] <holstein> yeah, i would just install whatever OS's i want, such as #! *first*, as Kitt3n suggested, then i would run the boot repair
[18:44] <Kitt3n> JaZZyCooL, make a partition for crunchbang, and install crunchbang, then boot up a livecd of Ubuntu and run Boot-repair.
[18:44] <syntax_error> When I drag a window up to the global menu, the top bar disappears under the global menu. I can't click it thereafter.
[18:44] <samgabbay> guys how do u rremove unity
[18:45] <Kitt3n> Boot-repair will then purge the old bootloader from crunchbang if you have to install one (I haven't used crunchbang, myself!) and install grub-efi
[18:45] <samgabbay> like completly
[18:45] <samgabbay> and keep xubuntu
[18:45] <holstein> !patience | syntax_error
[18:45] <JaZZyCooL> oh ok thanks a lot guys, I very highly appreciate your help you guys rock. Thanks a lot. Also I should just click recommended repair in boot-repair or is there any thing else I should configure
[18:45] <Kitt3n> samgabbay,  Remove ubuntu-desktop
[18:45] <samgabbay> i did
[18:45] <holstein> syntax_error: i would need more details.. maybe a screenshot would help
[18:45] <samgabbay> do i reboot^
[18:45] <bekks> samgabbay: No.
[18:45] <syntax_error> holstein: I'll get one
[18:45] <Kitt3n> JaZZyCooL, I would go to the advanced tab and click on 'purge bootloader'
[18:45] <bekks> samgabbay: Log out, select xubuntu, login, done.
[18:45] <holstein> samgabbay: no reason to remove unity other than disk space. is that the issue?
[18:46] <Kitt3n> JaZZyCooL, Or whatever it is called. :)
[18:46] <samgabbay> i wanna keep my disk space free i only have 40 gigs
[18:46] <JaZZyCooL> purge and install I guress
[18:46] <samgabbay> how do i remove unity
[18:46] <JaZZyCooL> I got you thanks a lot
[18:46] <bekks> samgabbay: apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[18:46] <motaka2> holstein: I had chmod -R 777 /var/www/
[18:46] <nurow> omg what is going on.. i have a windows drive and an ubuntu drive. i installed ubuntu on my second hard drive yesterday. I just tried to boot to my windows drive and I get "error: no such device: grub rescue"
[18:46] <Greylocks> samgabby look here:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> samgabbay, Whar desktop do you want?
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> What*
[18:46] <bekks> motaka2: Which is the most insecure setting possible.
[18:46] <JaZZyCooL> I think +10 rep for you guys thanks a lot
[18:47] <samgabbay> i wanna keep xubuntu and remove ubuntu
[18:47] <Kitt3n> nurow, boot up a livecd of Ubuntu and run Boot-repair ;)
[18:47] <bekks> samgabbay: How often do you want to get the same answer? :)
[18:47] <holstein> samgabbay: then, as the suggestion above states, purge it
[18:47] <samgabbay> how
[18:47] <holstein> samgabbay: use synaptic package manager, if its more "clear" for you
[18:47] <nurow> Kitt3n, got a link? that will fix windows?
[18:47] <bekks> samgabbay: I told you two times now.
[18:47] <samgabbay> i did remove ubuntu desktopp
[18:47] <Kitt3n> samgabbay, open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop"
[18:47] <samgabbay> do ir emove all the ubuntu stuff
[18:47] <holstein> samgabbay: its not going to clear up much space for you.. i wouldnt bother..
[18:47] <samgabbay> done that
[18:47] <samgabbay> okaty
[18:47] <samgabbay> thanks
[18:48] <samgabbay> thanks all
[18:48] <FloodBot1> samgabbay: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:48] <samgabbay> imma reboot
[18:48] <An_Ony_Moose> having switched from nvidia graphics with the nvidia driver (please don't ask :P ) to my integrated intel graphics, I'm having trouble with libGL.so not being found. I assume I need to reconfigure some stuff with ld.so.conf or the like - can anyone help?
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> samgabbay, Look here make sure you are using the pckg list for your release, and since you have removed some you will get errors.  www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu
[18:48] <Kitt3n> nurow, Boot-repair should be able to fix your Windows boot problem.
[18:49] <nurow> is that just a command?
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> samgabbay, If the errors say can not find this "package" remove it from the removal list, do this is a gedit for ease.
[18:49] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:49] <holstein> nurow: ^
[18:49] <syntax_error> holstein: What's happening is I am moving a window above the global menu bar, and I can't seem to get to the top of it after I let go of the left mouse button.
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> in*
[18:49] <Kitt3n> nurow, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:49] <holstein> syntax_error: i usually work everything like that out when i hold the alt key down and click and drag
[18:49] <nurow> thanks guys. if this doesn't work i will die
[18:50] <Kitt3n> holstein, we really need a boot-repair command. *rolls eyes*
[18:50] <adamk> An_Ony_Moose: How did you install and then remove the nvidia driver?
[18:50] <syntax_error> holstein: bingo! that's what I need to hear.
[18:50] <Kitt3n> nurow, if it doesn't work, just come back! :)
[18:50] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow: did you also have a bootloader on that windows drive? Is it possible that you need your ubuntu drive to boot into windows as well?
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> !boot
[18:51] <Kitt3n> what
[18:51] <nurow> I had the windows bootloader on my windows drive
[18:51] <nurow> i have no idea why ubuntu would have touched it
[18:52] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow: please post the outcome of what was suggested earlier by Kitt3n
[18:53] <phunyguy> hello, how I get get a list of MANUALLY installed packages in ubuntu? ALl I can find online is commands to list all installed packages, but I am looking for a specific one that I manually installed....
[18:54] <holstein> phunyguy: i use synaptic as a gui package manager that is arguably easier to do that with
[18:54] <phunyguy> hmmm
[18:54] <phunyguy> good idea
[18:54] <holstein> nurow: if you installed ubuntu, ubuntu installed its own bootloader, as you asked the installer to do by installing...
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> nurow, Have you run the bootrepair and have the bootinfo summary http?
[18:55] <An_Ony_Moose> adamk: I didn't remove the nvidia driver, just the nvidia card.
[18:55] <adamk> An_Ony_Moose: Well that's a problem :-)
[18:56] <An_Ony_Moose> adamk: actually it's only 32-bit programs that can't find libGL.so, the others are fine
[18:56] <nurow> just booted into live cd, one sec
[18:56] <Bower^> i'm trying to force a downgrade for my firefox version through synaptic but it only has the current version and a REALLY old version. i just need to revert to the previous version. is it possible to update the synaptic repos for firefox?
[18:57] <smallfoot-> finaly ubuntu got chromium 28, yay! :D
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> Bower^, what version? do you want
[18:57] <holstein> Bower^: synaptic has no repos.. you would change the system repos.. maybe add a ppa? not sure what happens to older unsupported versions of FF
[18:57] <Kartagis> why do I keep getting "Couldn't upload file, check your internet connection" when I drag and drop image files to "Drop to share" on 13.04
[18:57] <Kartagis> ?
[18:57] <Bower^> wilee-nilee, 21.0
[18:57] <An_Ony_Moose> adamk: any idea what could be causing this?
[18:58] <Bower^> holstein, what's a ppa
[18:58] <Kartagis> !pin | Bower^
[18:58] <adamk> An_Ony_Moose: You should still remove the nvidia driver.
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> Bower^, http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntuzilla/files/mozilla/apt/pool/main/f/firefox-mozilla-build/
[18:58] <holstein> !ppa > Bower^ though, im not saying thats what you should do.. just that that might be where an older version might be
[18:58] <Bower^> what a god damn ballache. i just want to code
[18:58] <holstein> !laguage | Bower^
[18:58] <adamk> An_Ony_Moose: And reinstall the 32-bit and 64-bit packages of libgl1-mesa-glx
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> Bower^, If the deb install freeze it in synaptic.
[18:59] <Bower^> sorry
[18:59] <An_Ony_Moose> adamk: so next time I want to use my nvidia card again I'll have to reinstall it?
[19:00] <adamk> An_Ony_Moose: You'll either have to use nouveau or install the nvidia proprietary driver.
[19:00] <Bower^> thanks wilee-nilee
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[19:01] <An_Ony_Moose> adamk: sorry if I'm just misunderstanding: it's not a good idea to have nvidia (proprietary) installed while using the intel graphics, but ok to have nouveau installed while using intel graphics?
[19:02] <An_Ony_Moose> adamk: I'm expecting a situation where I'll be switching between the two quite frequently so reinstalling every time would be a bit cumbersome
[19:02] <praka> hello i did all that ubottu pages show about no sound problem but I still have the same problem
[19:02] <adamk> Correct.  Both nouveau and the intel drivers are open source and come with Ubuntu.
[19:02] <phunyguy> holstein: even the manually installed section of synaptic shows /everything/  :(
[19:02] <Kartagis> why do I keep getting "Couldn't upload file, check your internet connection" when I drag and drop image files to "Drop to share" on 13.04
[19:02] <Kartagis> ?
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> Kartagis, "Drop to share" in what?
[19:02] <praka> with pavucontrol I can see a bar tilding
[19:02] <holstein> phunyguy: you can search by name
[19:03] <Kartagis> wilee-nilee: sorry, cairo
[19:03] <praka> but no sound
[19:03] <phunyguy> holstein: that's the problem.  I don't remember the name
[19:03] <phunyguy> but I did apt-get it at one point.
[19:03] <Kartagis> wilee-nilee: would #cairo-dock be a better place to ask?
[19:03] <holstein> phunyguy: try 'history' in the terminal
[19:03] <praka> I need help with no sound problem on Ubuntu 12.04
[19:04] <phunyguy> holstein: let me rephrase, I apt-get'd it about 6 months ago,.
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> Kartagis, Not sure is that a channel I use cairo and do not nor ever have seen a drop to share.
[19:04] <adamk> An_Ony_Moose: Theoretically you could just move the nvidia glx module and GL library out of the way, but I personally think uninstalling and reinstalling the driver is easier, and less error prone.
[19:04] <nurow2> okay, so I have boot-repair up, and i'm ready to run it. Should I do the recommended repair?
[19:04] <holstein> phunyguy: so, you dont have it in the 'history' ? i mean, you can search around through your applications, which are by name..
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, No run the bootinfo summary only and post the url.
[19:05] <holstein> nurow2: you shoulc refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair as exactly as you can
[19:06] <nurow2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5838210/
[19:06] <phunyguy> holstein: it was some obscure small thing to fix a color pallette issue with a webcam
[19:06] <phunyguy> obscure but important
[19:06] <An_Ony_Moose> adamk: ok, thanks
[19:06] <babinlonston> I have 1 Server which was installed With centos 6.2 and there was a Samba Share the Directory /public was shared in the centos Server its IP address is 192.168.1.15 , And I Have accessed the Share in Ubuntu 12.04 client machines by connect to server just giving IP address and share folder name , But i want to Mount the Samba Share in all client machines Permanently by Adding entries in fstab ,  i want to mount in a folder name called /sambapubshare
[19:06] <Kartagis> wilee-nilee: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11918318/Screenshot%20from%202013-07-02%2022%3A04%3A42.png
[19:06] <holstein> phunyguy: whats the issue?
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, Do you have the sdb HD first read in the bios?
[19:07] <phunyguy> using motion for video surveillance, it wouldn't load the webcam stream
[19:07] <phunyguy> but I am building up a new replacement workstation, and I don't ermemebr what the fix was.
[19:07] <phunyguy> holstein: But it had to do with a color pallette or something, not being able to detect it or read it
[19:08] <phunyguy> and I had to install something to make it work right.... just can't remember what it was that I installed, and I can't even remember teh error message to google.
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, THe recomened repair is to reload grub to the sdb, you can run it, but be sure the sdb HD is first read in the bios.
[19:08] <phunyguy> i thought maybe there was a list somewhere of manually isntalled packages that aren't dependencies
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> Kartagis, Share with who?
[19:10] <praka> Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't have sound what can I do?
[19:10] <Kitt3n> praka, do you have an AMD graphics card?
[19:10] <An_Ony_Moose> heh, what's with the updates to (almost?) all of the KDE packages?
[19:10] <dill> hi, is there a way to reinstall unity, i think is havong issues with applications. i try lubuntu desktop and applications launch fine but in unity i cant launch tem
[19:10] <Kitt3n> dill, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:11] <praka> yes i do
[19:11] <holstein> !sound | praka
[19:11] <dill> Kitt3nthis will re install?
[19:11] <phunyguy> holstein: nevermind, found it, it wasn't an installed package like I thought.  Derp.  It was a command to add to the motion command in upstart: LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/suchandsuch
[19:11] <holstein> praka: did you look at that link? what is the output of "aplay -l" ?
[19:12] <Kartagis> wilee-nilee: that uploads the image to uppix.net and copies the url in the clipboard
[19:12] <holstein> praka: are you talking about an hdmi audio output?
[19:12]  * Hei slaps jack around a bit with a large trout
[19:12] <praka> The voulume levels are ok but the sound doesn't work
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> Kartagis, Not sure really, I find only one link on the web on this. where did you get that folder is it a drag to it from ubuntu?
[19:12] <occ> i have bought a used laptop from a dodgy looking shop in london which has win.xp on it...... it might have malware, i am trying to format and install ubuntu on it.... will the option "repace windows xp with ubuntu: warning this will delete all your files etc...." format the entire disk so it is completley clean before it installs ubuntu?
[19:13]  * Hei slaps praka around a bit with a large trout
[19:13] <Kartagis> wilee-nilee: it came with cairo
[19:13] <phunyguy> holstein: here it is, in the /etc/init.d/motion file, "export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so"  -  That little guy threw me for a loop back in the day.
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> accc, should
[19:13] <dill> Kitt3n this wont reinstall, is there a command line to reinstall applications?
[19:13] <praka> mmm I have an hp toch smart computer
[19:13] <nurow2> wilee-nilee, sda is my Windows drive though. If I try to boot to sdb it boots ubuntu. if i set sda as the hard drive in my bios, it comes up with that GRUB error.
[19:13] <Kitt3n> dill, I don't know, remove and install?
[19:13] <praka> mmm I have an hp toch smart computer
[19:13] <dill> but removing ubuntu desktop will make unusable ubuntu?
[19:14] <nurow2> SDA is currently first in the BIOS.
[19:14] <Kitt3n> praka, go to your sound mixer and select the built-in audio analog stereo
[19:14] <holstein> praka: unless the vendor explicitly offers linux support, you might not get support.. i need the output of "aplay -l".. you can pastebin that to me, please
[19:14] <praka> pavucontrol show me a volumen bar bouncing when I play something but it doesn't sounds
[19:14] <Kitt3n> NOT HDMI.
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> Kartagis, I have a ,config I save for my cairo setup so have not seen it as a stock install for awhile. the #cairo-dock channel may be your best option.
[19:14] <praka> Ok, I need type aplay -l?
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, Of course it does in ubuntu run sudo update-grub and windows will be in grub.
[19:15] <holstein> praka: please, open a terminal, and type or copy and paste "aplay -l", without the quotes, and press the enter key.. you can then copy and paste that to a pastebin where you can share it with the volunteers here
[19:16] <holstein> !paste > praka
[19:16] <tdn> holstein, I have now used tcpdump to capture packages between the two hosts. Do you want to see?
[19:16] <babinlonston1> I have 1 Server which was installed With centos 6.2 and there was a Samba Share the Directory /public was shared in the centos Server, its IP address is 192.168.1.15 , And I Have accessed the Share in Ubuntu 12.04 client machines by connect to server just giving IP address and share folder name , But i want to Mount the Samba Share in all client machines Permanently by Adding entries in fstab ,  i want to mount in a folder name called
[19:16] <babinlonston1> /sambapubshare , Tried a lot and googled too but no use .. please help me im new to ubuntu and still now i worked in RHEL so how can i mount permanently samba share in ubuntu 12.04 from Centos Share
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, Your windows install is not showing boot info boot a windows diac and run a chkdsk /f/r
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> disc*
[19:16] <holstein> tdn: personally, i dont expect to be able to specifically help you much, but if you want help froma volunteer in the channel you should share your relevant data
[19:17] <dill> how can i check for unity log
[19:17] <praka> Ok, thJust a moment
[19:17] <nurow2> wilee-nilee, I actually already tried booting up a windows disc and it did not see a Windows partition.
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, It needs a boot flag, put one on with gparted.
[19:18] <nurow2> ok
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, While in gparted take a screenshot of the sdc and imagebin it.
[19:19] <tdn> holstein, http://paste.yt/p2700.html
[19:20] <tdn> holstein, this paste contains rpcinfo as well as tcpdump output.
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, And remove the boot flags in sda and sdb
[19:20] <holstein> tdn: can you connect and mount an ssh share?
[19:20] <tdn> holstein, yes.
[19:20] <nurow2> http://imagebin.org/263221
[19:21] <atc_> **** Lista de PLAYBACK dispositivos hardware ****
[19:21] <atc_> tarjeta 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], dispositivo 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog] Subdispositivos: 1/1 Subdispositivo #0: subdevice #0
[19:21] <Xalvin> How do I make a virtual webcam for linux-skype that will point to images?
[19:21] <atc_> tarjeta 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], dispositivo 1: AD198x Digital [AD198x Digital] Subdispositivos: 1/1 Subdispositivo #0: subdevice #0I am praka
[19:21] <Xalvin> Hello everybody, How do I make a virtual webcam for linux-skype that will point to images?
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, So is the sda2 where windows should be?
[19:21] <jose1043> hola
[19:21] <Xalvin> How do I make a virtual webcam for linux that will point to images?
[19:21] <nurow2> so i am REMOVING the boot flags? I thought it was the other way around. I just went into gparted and both drives already have boot flagsa
[19:21] <Xalvin> anybody here to help me out?
[19:21] <Xalvin> histo, ActionParsnip, atc_: How do I make a virtual webcam for linux that will point to images?
[19:21] <bekks> !patience | Xalvin
[19:21] <nurow2> yes, sda2 should have windows
[19:21] <holstein> tdn: at my personal skill level, thats what i would do.. mount ssh shares, and read about and learn about nfs.. i dont use nfs, and cant help you.. and i dont think you will get help for it here, though, you are welcome to wait patiently
[19:21] <tdn> holstein, I can also mount if I use mount.nfs -o vers=3, but then it is not NFSv4.
[19:22] <bekks> Xalvin: Please do not repeat 4 times in 2 minutes.
[19:22] <Kitt3n> nurow, it seems the partition is corrupt
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, It looks to be gone, unallocated anyway, do you have any images?
[19:22] <jose1043> hola hay alguien q hable español
[19:22] <holstein> tdn: why not use what is working? for all we know v4 is not supported
[19:22] <holstein> !es | jose1043
[19:22] <tdn> holstein, NFSv4 is faster and more secure. I need both.
[19:23] <holstein> tdn: its not working right now, so its neither of those.. v3 is faster since its functional
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, Disregard my earlier instructions, do you have any images/ghost/clone of windows.
[19:25] <atc__> **** Lista de PLAYBACK dispositivos hardware ****
[19:25] <atc__> tarjeta 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], dispositivo 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog]
[19:25] <atc__>   Subdispositivos: 1/1
[19:25] <atc__>   Subdispositivo #0: subdevice #0
[19:25] <atc__> tarjeta 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], dispositivo 1: AD198x Digital [AD198x Digital]
[19:25] <FloodBot1> atc__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:25] <atc__>   Subdispositivos: 1/1
[19:25] <holstein> !paste | atc__
[19:25] <nurow2> wilee-nilee, no images :(
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, Hmm, well you could try reloading the windows bootloader to the sda HD and see if it boots, not sure this will work, Or try to recover it with testdisk, or reinatll or try the ##windows channel.
[19:27] <atc__> I did it
[19:27] <atc__> I pasted
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> the sda mbr nurow2
[19:27] <holstein> atc__: you pasted it here.. see the link about adding it to a pastebin please.. thanks!
[19:28] <holstein> !paste > atc__
[19:29] <Chadman> hello.
[19:29] <Chadman> How do I make a virtual webcam for linux that will point to images?
[19:30] <Chadman> laffite, hey dude.
[19:30] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: using v4l2loopback
[19:30] <holstein> Chadman: i dont understand the quiestion
[19:30] <Chadman> lafitte*
[19:30] <Chadman> On_Any_Moose; I tried it, but can't seem to know how to use it.
[19:30] <Chadman> :(
[19:30] <atc__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5838267/
[19:30] <Chadman> how can I do that, An_Ony_Moose?
[19:31] <Chadman> if you can help me, that'd be very very very kind of you <3
[19:31] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: have you installed the driver?
[19:31] <Chadman> come to pm, dude.
[19:31] <nurow2> wilee-nilee, which tool would i try to reload the windows bootloader with?
[19:31] <nurow2> with boot-repair?
[19:31] <holstein> Chadman: keep it in the channel, and within the guidelines, please..
[19:32] <Chadman> alright.
[19:32] <Chadman> An_Ony_Moose: which device?
[19:32] <Chadman> An_Ony_Moose: I want v4l2loopback to display a image.
[19:32] <Chadman> an GIF.
[19:32] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: you've installed v4l2loopback right?
[19:33] <Chadman> yes, an_ony_moose.
[19:33] <Chadman> I installed it.
[19:33] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: are you familiar with using the terminal?
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, The recovery or install disc, I doubt this will work but a place to start, make sure the sda2 partition has a boot flag. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/32523/how-to-manually-repair-windows-7-boot-loader-problems/
[19:33] <Guest94205> where can I find additional files for apps in ubuntu? I mean *.mo translation files for certain app
[19:33] <praka> Nobody?
[19:34] <Chadman> An_Ony_Moose: I sure am.
[19:34] <Kitt3n> praka, ??
[19:34] <An_Ony_Moose> Guest94205: they aren't necessarily available. which package is it?
[19:34] <praka> Yes?
[19:34] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: in that case, cd to the directory where you have the gif
[19:34] <Kitt3n> praka, still having the sound problem?
[19:34] <Chadman> An_Ony_Moose; root@bt:~# modprobe v4l2loopback
[19:34] <Chadman> FATAL: Module v4l2loopback not found.
[19:34] <praka> Yes I have
[19:34] <Guest94205> An_Ony_Moose: uget-gtk
[19:34] <Chadman> I installed it, but it shows this error.
[19:35] <Chadman> and okay, wait.
[19:35] <usr01> dear people, about security and ubuntu: is it enough creating a limited user account to use Tor ?  what about downloaded PDFs?
[19:35] <Kitt3n> praka, are you using Ubuntu?
[19:35] <Kitt3n> Not as in, unity?
[19:35] <praka> Of curse, 12.04 version
[19:35] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: oh, the installation fails... It's a bug in the package, you'll probably have to install it manually
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, Here are the same command with an extra that may be needed. http://pastebin.com/NBVprQA0
[19:35] <holstein> praka: i need the pastebin of aplay -l
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> if this works at all
[19:35] <bipul> I need to know how should i convert .yuv file into .m4v formate ,i have try with ffmpeg but asking me to define parameters.  http://pastebin.com/LBUPCeUU
[19:36] <holstein> praka: you might want to try 13.04 live, and see if the support is "better" or "easier" for you
[19:36] <Chadman> An_Ony_Moose: how can I do that, dude?
[19:36] <Chadman> I am kinda new to Linux.
[19:36] <Chadman> but, please help me out.
[19:36] <Chadman> I've been wandering around many IRC's.
[19:36] <Chadman> for months.
[19:36] <holstein> !enter | Chadman
[19:36] <FloodBot1> Chadman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:36] <Chadman> asking for help on this.
[19:36] <Chadman> like, for 4 months or so.
[19:36] <Chadman> and nobody has solved my situation yet.
[19:36] <Chadman> :(
[19:36] <bekks> Chadman: Dont use enter.
[19:36] <praka> I am atc
[19:37] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: Patience. There's a limit to how fast I can figure the stuff out, and type :P
[19:37] <holstein> praka: then, take the output from "aplay -l" and put it in a pastebin, for the volunteers here to see
[19:37] <holstein> !paste > praka
[19:37] <Chadman> An_Ony_Moose: I'll love you forever if you can help me on this <3
[19:38] <Chadman> How can I get the files of v4l2loopback from SVN?
[19:38] <Kitt3n> praka, go to the sound settings and find the output device, then select "built-in analog <something here>"
[19:38] <Chadman> If you can help me on installing it manually, that'd be great! How can I get the files of v4l2loopback from their svn?
[19:38]  * usr01 ask again - thanks in advance: "about security and ubuntu: is it enough creating a limited user account to use Tor ?  what about downloaded PDFs?"
[19:38] <holstein> Kitt3n: are you switching the output on praka 's settings fomr HDMI? i like that idea, if so
[19:38] <nurow2> wilee-nilee, yeah I actually already tried this method. it never saw a windows 7 partition to recover
[19:39] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: https://code.google.com/p/v4l2loopback/source/checkout it's in a mercurial repo, not SVN
[19:39] <nurow2> I'm screwed aren't I..
[19:39] <Kitt3n> holstein, HDMI is dead broken so yes?
[19:39] <nurow2> I just lost 5 years of data..
[19:39] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: again, patience. I'm working on it myself.
[19:39] <holstein> Kitt3n: it might work.. not sure.. thats why i suggested trying 13.04
[19:39] <Kitt3n> It should work using the built-in output
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, Probably you could try a recover with testdisk if there at leat data you want from it.
[19:39] <Kitt3n> 'should'.
[19:40] <holstein> Kitt3n: agreed.. praka ^^ try this suggestion please
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> is at least*
[19:40] <nurow2> what is testdisk?
[19:40] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: can't you access win-data by booting from ubuntu-drive if you connect both drives together?
[19:40] <praka> Ok
[19:40] <praka> And then?
[19:40] <Kitt3n> Test if it works?
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> KyouReeUs4nfo, Windows is unallocated.
[19:40] <nurow2> Kyou, unfortunately no. In Ubuntu I can't see that particular drive.
[19:40] <holstein> praka: i *still* havent seen the pastebin of your aplay -l .. and you have not tried 13.04 live, correct?
[19:40] <praka> It doesn't works
[19:40] <Kitt3n> wilee-nilee, the photo didn't say unallocated, more like..something went seriously wrong
[19:41] <praka> I'm using 12.04
[19:41] <Kitt3n> holstein, I think he said me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5838267/
[19:41] <Chadman> I'm installing mercurial, wait.
[19:41] <Chadman> to download v4l2loopback's local repo.
[19:41] <holstein> praka: sure, and trying 13.04 live will let you see how the hardware support is with a newer kernel, and newer alsa version, and drivers for your graphics card
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> Kitt3n, Sure unknown, might as well be.
[19:42] <holstein> Chadman: try and type more text. *not* hitting the "enter" key so much.. it floods the channel with uncessary text
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> Kitt3n,something went yes that is obvious. ;)
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> wrong*
[19:43]  * usr01 drowned on Chadman's flood
[19:44] <KyouReeUs4nfo> wilee-nilee: got it, I thought if win bootloader is corrupted, ubuntu bootloader will help considering win drive as secondary and data will be visible
[19:44] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: sorry, that's not up-to-date. My mistake. I think the latest, working code is available here https://github.com/umlaeute/v4l2loopback
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> KyouReeUs4nfo, Sorry I meant to say unknown as well.
[19:44] <Kitt3n> KyouReeUs4nfo, Grub only chainloads to the windows bootloader, it can't boot Windows :p
[19:45] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Kitt3n: Grub2?
[19:45] <Kitt3n> KyouReeUs4nfo, yes!
[19:46] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Kitt3n: Ah, so if I have a win-drive, that is external, I can't see anything??
[19:46] <usr01> y
[19:46] <Kitt3n> KyouReeUs4nfo, what?
[19:46] <hd5770> damn ati drivers
[19:46] <hd5770> screw my system every time
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> !ot | hd5770
[19:46] <hd5770> how can i get it back as now it fails to boot
[19:46] <kaddi> hi
[19:47] <Kitt3n> hd5770, what happens?
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> !details | hd5770
[19:47] <hd5770> wilee pleae
[19:47] <kaddi> can I resell a used computer that has ubuntu installed on it? Or is this against the license when it comes to "commercial use"
[19:47] <hd5770> it just stops
[19:47] <Chadman> An_Ony_Moose: how can I install those files? that's SVN.
[19:47] <Kitt3n> Okay!
[19:47] <Kitt3n> Easy to fix! :)
[19:47] <hd5770> at the dot thing
[19:47] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nuvo2: what is the status?
[19:47] <Kitt3n> Go to recovery, enable networking then "drop to root shell"
[19:47] <hd5770> k?
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> hd5770, give details and keep the cdomplaints to yourself if you want help, and post to the channel.
[19:47] <holstein> kaddi: there are no licenses like that.. but, its a good idea to wipe data to protect it
[19:48] <Kitt3n> Type "apt-get install fglrx"
[19:48] <hd5770> sure coz i tryed this
[19:48] <kaddi> holstein: so i could just sell ubuntu straight out if I wanted to? o.0
[19:48] <holstein> kaddi: you are selling the hardware in that scenario... and it happens to have ubuntu on it
[19:48] <hd5770> and it says the root f/s is not wrtable
[19:48] <Kitt3n> Oh.
[19:48] <kaddi> holstein: so this also holds for new PCs, that I might build? I thought that would definitely not be ok
[19:48] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: no, that's git. If you have git installed, git clone https://github.com/umlaeute/v4l2loopback.git
[19:49] <Kitt3n> hd5770, "mount -o rw,remount /"
[19:49] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: if not, you can just click on the "Download ZIP" link on that page
[19:49] <holstein> kaddi: you can contact legal for exact statements. but, you are selling the hardware, and ubuntu is free of charge to use
[19:49] <Kitt3n> Type that into the command line, it should remount your / partition as read write
[19:49] <kaddi> holstein: thanks :)
[19:49] <Chadman> im installing it thru git, an_ony_moose.
[19:50] <Chadman> an_ony_moose, ok. its installed now.
[19:50] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: ok, go into the directory and type make to compile it, assuming you have all the necessary stuff installed
[19:50] <Chadman> an_ony_moose, I downloaded the files thru git into a 'v4l2loopback' folder, now what?
[19:51] <Chadman>   CC      /root/v4l2loopback/v4l2loopback/v4l2loopback.mod.o
[19:51] <Chadman>   LD [M]  /root/v4l2loopback/v4l2loopback/v4l2loopback.ko
[19:51] <Chadman> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-source-3.2.6'
[19:51] <reisio> wha? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&suite=all&section=all&keywords=v4l2loopback
[19:51] <Chadman> is it installed, an_ony_moose?
[19:51] <An_Ony_Moose> !flood | Chadman
[19:51] <bekks> Chadman: Use a pastebin please.
[19:51] <Chadman> an_ony_moose: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5838330/
[19:51] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: now sudo make install and it will be installed
[19:52] <Chadman> bekks, paste.ubuntu.com is better ;)
[19:52] <bekks> Chadman: So use it.
[19:52] <Chadman> WARNING: -e needs -E or -F
[19:52] <Chadman> now what?
[19:52] <nurow2> Wilie-nilie, I have testdisk up now, but i'm not sure which type of partition to select? Intel or EFI GPT? the partition is NTFS..
[19:52] <bekks> Chadman: Either set -E or -F when using -e.
[19:52] <Chadman> bekks & an_ony_moose: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5838334/ (it gave me a error or something)
[19:53] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: nope, all is well, it's installed now.
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[19:53] <bekks> Chadman: A warning is no error.
[19:53] <Chadman> oh.
[19:53] <Kitt3n> ^
[19:53] <Chadman> "A warning is no error." thats some philosophy right there.
[19:53] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: now you need to first load the module (sudo modprobe v4l2loopback), then use it. Give me about 5 minutes to figure out how :P
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, your not efi or gpt for the record
[19:54] <nurow2> Intel, then?
[19:54] <Kitt3n> wilee-nilee, that sounds wrong, gpt is the partition table used for EFI
[19:54] <Chadman> An_Ony_Moose: I typed that command, nothing popped up.
[19:54] <Chadman> root@bt:~/v4l2loopback/v4l2loopback# sudo modprobe v4l2loopback
[19:54] <Chadman> root@bt:~/v4l2loopback/v4l2loopback#
[19:54] <Afflicto> So I just installed 12.04 x64 and I my wireless, touchpad and keyboard are not working. Anyone wanna help? thanks.
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> Kitt3n, But he does not have either.
[19:54] <Chadman> oh? does that mean its installed?
[19:55] <ShadowBlaze18> hello, is it okay if I sell a computer that has Ubuntu (the full version) and also include an accompanying Ubuntu CD? Do I need to do anything special? Like give source code or give the license, or does the OS already include this?
[19:55] <whatsyourname> what is this channel for?
[19:55] <Chadman> anyways an_ony_moose: all is installed now, now we gotta figure out how to set up a virtual webcam to display GIF files. :[
[19:55] <bekks> whatsyourname: ubuntu support
[19:55] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: as I said, give me 5 minutes
[19:55] <whatsyourname> can i install it under my windows OS?
[19:55] <Chadman> alright an_ony_moose, im waiting. :]
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> Kitt3n, If you like I can follow your every post and criticize them rather wrong or right. ;)
[19:55] <Chadman> an_ony_moose: you can check some stuff out here: http://amanick.blogspot.com/2011/02/virtual-webcam-for-skype-linux.html
[19:56] <Chadman> & http://lebuste.blogspot.fr/2012/10/v4l2loopback-on-skype.html
[19:56] <Kitt3n> wilee-nilee, nah
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> I don't mind be corrected, when I'm wrong
[19:57] <Kitt3n> Me neither ;)
[19:57] <whatsyourname> i would like to operate ubuntu on my windows
[19:57] <whatsyourname> is that possible?
[19:57] <Chadman> um
[19:57] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: it's not very simple. https://github.com/umlaeute/v4l2loopback/wiki/Mplayer seems like the easiest option
[19:57] <groundwater> how do i reset cloud-init so that it runs again on next boot?
[19:57] <reisio> whatsyourname: virtualized, like?
[19:57] <irreverant> what's a good room on this server just to babble on?
[19:57] <irreverant>  Talk about nonsensical items?
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> whatsyourname, in a virtual
[19:58] <reisio> irreverant: #defocus
[19:58] <groundwater> i booted an instance, and created an AMI snapshot, but cloud-init does not run any more
[19:58] <Chadman> An_Ony_Moose, and how do I display images thru that?
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> irreplaceable, #ubuntu-offtopic the babble that is for sure
[19:58] <groundwater> i assume there is a file dropped somewhere that indicates cloud-init has already run
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> they*
[19:58] <scheidm> greetings! might anyone help me with a strange partition issue I am having?
[19:58] <reisio> whatsyourname: feel free to respond to questions :p
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> scheidm, Not if you don't describe it
[19:59] <bazhang> !wubi | whatsyourname
[19:59] <whatsyourname> first of all, i just don't want to give up my windows
[19:59] <Kitt3n> whatsyourname, virtualbox
[19:59] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: where it says mplayer movie.mp4 <...> replace movie.mp4 with your gif file
[19:59] <whatsyourname> i just want to run it on my windows OS
[19:59] <An_Ony_Moose> Chadman: I'm going to go eat. Good luck, and I'll be back later. I'll PM you when I'm back if you're still there
[20:00] <scheidm> fair enough. I have ubuntu on a VM. it needed more space, so I loaded Gparted and scaled up the only data partition on the drive to 25 gigs. When I reboot however the OS still only shows 7 gigs of HD space
[20:00] <Chadman> alright an_ony_moose, ill try mplayer.
[20:00] <scheidm> is there any way to force ubuntu to re-assess the size of a partition?
[20:00] <Chadman> and ill be here, hopefully.
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> scheidm, Try #vbox
[20:00] <whatsyourname> also, i don't know anything about programming... does it get in my way of learning ubuntu?
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> if you are running virtualbox scheidm
[20:00] <Kitt3n> whatsyourname, nope
[20:01] <reisio> whatsyourname: nope, https://www.virtualbox.org/
[20:01] <scheidm> I'll happily try there too, but it seems like a general ubuntu issue. If you resize with GParted and reboot, it should update the partition size, no?
[20:01] <whatsyourname> let me take a look
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> scheidm, NOt in a vm
[20:01] <Bico_Fino> Hello, any easy way to upgrade a ubuntu 08.10 to 13.04? :)
[20:02] <jdelgado> Anyone have a hacky way to replace an init.d script while it is running
[20:02] <reisio> Bico_Fino: install 13.04, done
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> scheidm, a vm can be resized probably, however you have not even named the one you are using.
[20:02] <xangua> Bico_Fino: fastest would be a clean install
[20:02] <reisio> jdelgado: init.d scripts aren't like... dynamically continuously interpreted
[20:02] <reisio> jdelgado: they just execute and then sit around for next time they're executed
[20:02] <k1l_> Bico_Fino: you are quite late for that. you cant upgrade directly so i would do a new install
[20:02] <Kitt3n> Bico_Fino, a clean install is better than updating
[20:02] <Bico_Fino> without a clean install.
[20:03] <jdelgado> reisio: Right, but I get an inuse error when I try to replace it.
[20:03] <k1l_> Bico_Fino: other way is to upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04 and then to 12.04 and then to 12.10 and then to 13.04
[20:03] <Kitt3n> Back up your data and install 13.04
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> scheidm, If it is vbox all you have to do is bulid a new machine and use the vdi you have.
[20:03] <jdelgado> reisio: Just making an auto-update script
[20:03] <Bico_Fino> k1l_, yeah. I'm going try that. do-release-upgrade isn't working.
[20:04] <reisio> jdelgado: to what end?
[20:04] <k1l_> Bico_Fino: because you are late. 8.04 is out of support
[20:04] <k1l_> !eol | Bico_Fino
[20:04] <jdelgado> reisio: Just a script that copies the updated init.d over the old, while the daemon is running.
[20:04] <Bico_Fino> k1l_, ty.
[20:04] <reisio> jdelgado: right, but for what purpose
[20:05] <jdelgado> reisio: For the purpose of... updating. The script has an array of node applications that it needs to run.
[20:05] <whatsyourname> if i run ubuntu on virtualbox, does it provide me with full functionality?
[20:06] <jdelgado> whatsyourname: Yes
[20:06] <reisio> jdelgado: I don't follow, but if your init system won't let you replace the file, it is dumb
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> whatsyourname, Basically, however vbox has its own drivers, and be sure to install the guest additions.
[20:06] <jdelgado> reisio: I agree
[20:06] <Afflicto> Anyone want to help me get my keyboard, trackpad & wireless working no a clean ubuntu install? I can pay you a few bucks lol I'm getting restless :P
[20:07] <whatsyourname> i see
[20:07] <k1l_> whatsyourname: but mind that its not as fast as a real install
[20:07] <LoveMe> hey guys, some1 spekas ITALIAN here? =)
[20:07] <irreverant> reisio: you weren't kidding abou tthe nonsensical chatter on that channel
[20:07] <k1l_> !it | LoveMe
[20:07] <reisio> jdelgado: perhaps you just have a zombie process or something
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> Afflicto, Have you looked on the web with your computer info and ubuntu for others with thensame problem.
[20:07] <reisio> irreverant: heh, indeed I wasn't :p
[20:07] <reisio> irreverant: want something slightly less nonsensical? :p
[20:07] <LoveMe> thx
[20:07] <whatsyourname> why is that? i don't want to feel like being very laggy
[20:07] <Afflicto> wilee-nilee: yeah I can't find anything.
[20:07] <jdelgado> reisio: That's what I'm thinking.
[20:08] <jdelgado> reisio: Thanks anyway
[20:08] <reisio> jdelgado: lsof
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> Afflicto, What is the computer and model?
[20:08] <irreverant> Loveme: parliagmo italiano... but that's WAY offtopic!
[20:08] <Afflicto> wilee-nilee: Packard Bell Easynote LE
[20:08] <TDO|Aquina> hy
[20:09] <irreverant> parliamo
[20:09] <fabienne> Hey, disk ultility sees the thumb drive I've got in the laptop, but I don't see it on the file browser?
[20:09] <fabienne> *utility
[20:09] <ShadowBlaze18> so, if Ubuntu has GPL3 software, do I need to give out source code to people or give them the license? Does Ubuntu automattically include the legal stuff, so I don't personally have to give them source code or give them the license?
[20:09] <Chadman> are you here, an_ony_moose?
[20:10] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: that's if you're redistributing, and making modifications
[20:11] <ShadowBlaze18> well, I want to give away the CD with a computer I'm selling at a garge sale, reisio
[20:11] <saiarcot895> whatsyourname: Since you're running it in a VM, there's extra overhead since the VM has to pass on instructions to the CPU and hard drive.
[20:11] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: there are no special requirements for you to do that
[20:11] <saiarcot895> whatsyourname: this applies to any OS running in a VM
[20:11] <hd5770> apt-get remove fg;rx work :)
[20:11] <Kitt3n> hd5770, ?
[20:11] <ShadowBlaze18> reisio does that also apply with GPL3 software that comes with Ubuntu?
[20:11] <whatsyourname> saiarcot895: what if my system config is very high-end?
[20:12] <hd5770>  apt-get remove fglrx work :
[20:12] <Kitt3n> hd5770, ah, okay! Well, just install it again now
[20:12] <mojtaba> Hi, I am using ubuntu 13.04, but also I have installed KDE. Now the problem is that, I just once tried to use KDE accessible software. But now I can not get rid of it. (its symbol is blue circle with a white man with stretched arms.) Does anybody know how can I exit from it?
[20:12] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: the vast majority, yes
[20:12] <Chadman> guys, guys.
[20:12] <Chadman> reisio; please help.
[20:12] <occ> i tried to install ubuntu and got an error: installer has encountered error, starting desktop session so you can investigate problem............ maybe because i deleted all partitions on my disk first..... do i need to create an empty partition first, an ext4?
[20:12] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: additionally, you will never get into legal trouble by giving something away for nothing
[20:12] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: it's selling free software that is tricky
[20:12] <hd5770> k
[20:12] <ShadowBlaze18> oh, okay
[20:12] <Chadman> I installed webcamstudio thru a .deb file, but when I do 'modprobe webcamstudio', it gives me FATAL: Module webcamstudio not found, how can I fix this?
[20:12] <hd5770> not the amd beta ones ?
[20:13] <ShadowBlaze18> I was paranoid all this time that I broke the licenses, thank you reisio for answering my question
[20:13] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: unless you live in some horrible strange country and you give away like... highly illegal anti-/-encryption software
[20:13] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: which is unlikely
[20:13] <Kitt3n> hd5770, reinstall fglrx, then when you get into your computer, download the official AMD driver, uninstall fglrx, (DONT reboot) and install the official driver with "--force"
[20:13] <mojtaba> Hi, I am using ubuntu 13.04, but also I have installed KDE. Now the problem is that, I just once tried to use KDE accessible software. But now I can not get rid of it. (its symbol is blue circle with a white man with stretched arms.) Does anybody know how can I exit from it? It just re-opens when I click on exit!!
[20:13] <mojtaba> Please help
[20:13] <Chadman> reisio, hd5770, ShadowBlaze18, Kitt3n, bekks, an_ony_moose, mojtaba, I installed webcamstudio thru a .deb file, but when I do 'modprobe webcamstudio', it gives me FATAL: Module webcamstudio not found, how can I fix this?
[20:13] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: GPL's purpose is basically to keep commercial organizations from making versions of GPL software that other people cannot hack (modify)
[20:13] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: and you are not a commercial organization :p
[20:14] <Kitt3n> Chadman, I don't know how to fix that.
[20:14] <mojtaba> Chadman: Sorry I do not know (I am a newbie)
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> Afflicto, Not much info on that unit on the web in general, did any of this work on the live cd?
[20:14] <ShadowBlaze18> oh, okay, thanks
[20:14] <Chadman> Kitt3n, like, why it's giving me "FATAL: cannot load module webcamstudio"
[20:14] <Chadman> I installed webcamstudio.
[20:14] <Chadman> but it's giving me that error.
[20:14] <hd5770> Kitt3n, will try
[20:14] <Chadman> any help?
[20:14] <Kitt3n> Chadman, it can't find the module?
[20:15] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: it's obviously more technical than that, but that's the gist :p
[20:15] <Chadman> Kitt3n: yes, it says "module not found"
[20:15] <mojtaba> Hi, I am using ubuntu 13.04, but also I have installed KDE. Now the problem is that, I just once tried to use KDE accessible software. But now I can not get rid of it. (its symbol is blue circle with a white man with stretched arms.) Does anybody know how can I exit from it? It just re-opens when I click on exit!!
[20:15] <Kitt3n> Chadman, is it a program? If so, launch the program.
[20:15] <zephyr28> Is there a program will display all audio levels in real time?
[20:15] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: in any event even if you were a commercial organization, and someone cared to get upset with you, their first step would be to simply ask you to provide the source code
[20:15] <saiarcot895> whatsyourname: then there may be little overhead, but know there will still be overhead and a little slowdown
[20:15] <jrib> zephyr28: pavucontrol?  Alsamixer?  Not sure what you want
[20:16] <Chadman> Kitt3n: I can launch the program, but the program says, "Cannot load webcamstudio module"
[20:16] <whatsyourname> saiarcot895: i see
[20:16] <ShadowBlaze18> so reisio, I can just give the OS and the software that comes with it in the full version as is and not break licenses?
[20:16] <Afflicto> wilee-nilee: I was able to boot into recovery mode and use the keyboard. I did something in the recovery which booted up ubuntu and then I was able to use wireless, trackpad & keyboard. But when I boot regularly that's when they dont' work.
[20:16] <Kitt3n> Chadman, perhaps google the problem?
[20:17] <zephyr28> jrib: not to see volume levels.  I can't for the life of me think of what it's actually called... the bars that move up and down depending on the level of sound being pushed through that device/speaker.
[20:17] <MikeRL> Hmm. If anyone's free can someone help me with a big issue I've run into with vino-server?
[20:17] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: yes indeed
[20:17] <jrib> zephyr28: doesn't pavucontrol show you this?
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> Afflicto, Ah well that is a good sign, can you access additional drivers? i may need a update and upgrade or drivers.
[20:17] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: and again, _even if_ you actually technically violated a license, not a single person is going to care unless you are making money off of it
[20:17] <zephyr28> jrib: haven't tried it.  Will now.
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> Afflicto, and drivers rather
[20:18] <ShadowBlaze18> reisio: GPL3 has some requirements I noticed though, and the requirements are fulfilled in the OS?
[20:18] <Chadman> !google - Kitt3n
[20:18] <Chadman> well that didn't work.
[20:18] <Chadman> !gnu
[20:18] <Afflicto> wilee-nilee: I dno. I was able to do an apt-get update and after rebooting it didn't fix anything.
[20:18] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: they're fulfilled by Canonical
[20:19] <zephyr28> jrib: it shows what I'm looking for, but doesn't register anything coming in on the few devices it monitors.
[20:19] <mojtaba> Hi, I am using ubuntu 13.04, but also I have installed KDE. Now the problem is that, I just once tried to use KDE accessible software. But now I can not get rid of it. (its symbol is blue circle with a white man with stretched arms.) Does anybody know how can I exit from it? It just re-opens when I click on exit!!
[20:19] <ShadowBlaze18> okay, so no extra work for giving it away, that is all my questions, thank you, reisio
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> Afflicto, That just checks you also need apt-get upgrade preferably dist-upgrade
[20:19] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: you're totally fine :p
[20:19] <ShadowBlaze18> lol
[20:20]  * ShadowBlaze18 worries a lot
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> Afflicto, Do that and check additional drivers, if you don't know where tha is ask.
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> that*
[20:20] <reisio> worry when you have something to lose; if you're broke you haven't anything :p
[20:20] <ShadowBlaze18> :p
[20:20] <mojtaba> reisio: Hi, I am using ubuntu 13.04, but also I have installed KDE. Now the problem is that, I just once tried to use KDE accessible software. But now I can not get rid of it. (its symbol is blue circle with a white man with stretched arms.) Does anybody know how can I exit from it? It just re-opens when I click on exit!!
[20:21] <MikeRL> Help? Is anyone free? I am patient and can wait a bit.
[20:21] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: Hi, I am using ubuntu 13.04, but also I have installed KDE. Now the problem is that, I just once tried to use KDE accessible software. But now I can not get rid of it. (its symbol is blue circle with a white man with stretched arms.) Does anybody know how can I exit from it? It just re-opens when I click on exit!!
[20:21] <jrib> !ask | MikeRL
[20:21] <jrib> zephyr28: don't know about that
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> MikeRL, POst the issue for help
[20:21] <whatsyourname> guys, i wonder if i could run window office series on ubuntu
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> whatsyourname, in wine or playonlinux
[20:21] <Pici> !appdb | whatsyourname
[20:21] <Afflicto> wilee-nilee: hm ok. Well I tried using 13.04 x64 too. Same thing happened.
[20:21] <mojtaba> whatsyourname: You can do that with playonlinux
[20:22] <whatsyourname> alright, let me check out what playonlinux is
[20:22] <occ> i just installed ubuntu and it worked, then i rebooted and deleted the partition(dont ask why), and now trying to reinstall ubuntu again but now it is giving me errors and crashes during installation...... so i will try and create new partitions for it again... what partitions do i need to make if i do it manually?
[20:22] <mojtaba> Hi, I am using ubuntu 13.04, but also I have installed KDE. Now the problem is that, I just once tried to use KDE accessible software. But now I can not get rid of it. (its symbol is blue circle with a white man with stretched arms.) Does anybody know how can I exit from it? It just re-opens when I click on exit!!
[20:22] <mojtaba> Help please
[20:22] <reisio> whatsyourname: yes, you can run it via Wine
[20:22] <Kitt3n> occ, grub isn't removed, put in a windows install disc and run recovery
[20:22] <reisio> whatsyourname: but using LibreOffice is a much more sensible route
[20:23] <occ> ok kitten ill try that
[20:24] <ShadowBlaze18> reisio, the trademark license is entirely different and doesn't affect the license of the OS itself, right?
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> Afflicto, Right, we are getting lost here, I have asked multiple questions and get no answers, this is a circular problem when that happens. Be sure to answer questions as is, and say when you d not understand. I can't guarantee help, but we have to communicate. ;)
[20:24] <mojtaba> Nobody?
[20:24] <MikeRL> Oh, yes. I am running into a bug with vino-server (see here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/1196668) and am wondering since on both my computers, even after a reformat on one, the server acts up. After changing the settings via Desktop Sharing, the icon disappears. Basically vino-server just crashes in the background. If anyone would be so kind to invest a little time, could I gain some assistance with either finding
[20:24] <MikeRL> out how to stop the crashing or a workaround to get remote desktop working. Vinagre terminates when attempting to connect, and cannot see other computers on the local network by the way.
[20:24] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: trademark license?
[20:24] <MikeRL> Stepping away. Be back in a minute.
[20:25] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: reisio MikeRL Kitt3n ShadowBlaze18: Hi, I am using ubuntu 13.04, but also I have installed KDE. Now the problem is that, I just once tried to use KDE accessible software. But now I can not get rid of it. (its symbol is blue circle with a white man with stretched arms.) Does anybody know how can I exit from it? It just re-opens when I click on exit!!
[20:25] <ShadowBlaze18> reisio: yeah, the trademark usage rules, I think they are called
[20:25] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: trademarks are so you can't easily make another item that is in the same genre as the original, with the same or similar name
[20:25] <reisio> for example Linux is trademarked, you can't make something else related to operating systems named 'Linux' without opening yourself up to potentially being sued
[20:25] <Kitt3n> mojtaba, what are you talking about?
[20:25] <ShadowBlaze18> reisio, am i allowed to put on the computer at the garage sale: Ubuntu OS, 512mb RAM, etc..
[20:26] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: yes
[20:26] <live_high5> hello. anyone have a minute to help me?
[20:26] <mojtaba> Kitt3n: I have mistakenly run KDE accessible software, and when I close it, it just pops up again.
[20:26] <reisio> live_high5: I did, but I spent a few seconds typing this response, and now I have less
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> ShadowBlaze18, You can do what you want and distribute ubuntu as long as you use ubuntu as the source OS in info, unless you remove all Ubuntu references in the OS, then you can call it your own.
[20:26] <sethj> !ask | live_high5
[20:26] <mojtaba> Kitt3n: I do not know how to kill it!
[20:26] <Kitt3n> mojtaba, reboot into recovery console and just uninstall kde
[20:27] <mojtaba> Kitt3n: How can I uninstall it?
[20:27] <ShadowBlaze18> reisio, okay so I guess I'm just not allowed to advertise Ubuntu in a store without Canonicals permission?
[20:27] <usercheck_> excuse me,.i have been installed nmap. how to scan open port(open port but not used by me) in my computer?,
[20:27] <mojtaba> I am a newbie to linux world
[20:27] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: course you can
[20:27] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: Canonical owns the name 'Ubuntu'
[20:27] <Kitt3n> mojtaba, reboot your computer, and enter "recovery console" then use the "drop to root shell" option. From there you can uninstall kde.
[20:27] <ShadowBlaze18> I know that
[20:27] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: if you were to confuse people about what that name entailed, then Canonical would have a trademark case against you
[20:28] <reisio> just installing Ubuntu is not confusing anyone about what Ubuntu is
[20:28] <mojtaba> Kitt3n: Ok, thank you. I will try that.
[20:28] <mojtaba> Kitt3n: drop to root shell is a command line?
[20:28] <idlemichael> why would "ulimit -u 32000" fail?
[20:28] <ripdisk> Hey guys, I need some serious help, here. I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu (12.04 I believe, whichever version the site said was the supported one and not the newest one), it completed the install completely and when i try to boot up, the screen just starts flashing all crazy and nothing shows up on the screen.
[20:28] <Afflicto> wilee-nilee: alright sry. No I did not check additional drivers. Let me try that
[20:28] <Kitt3n> mojtaba, yes
[20:28] <mojtaba> Kitt3n: What command should I use for uninstalling KDE?
[20:28] <bekks> idlemichael: It gives you an error, correct?
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> Afflicto, Cool
[20:28] <Pici> ShadowBlaze18: You may want to familiarize yourself with http://www.ubuntu.com/legal
[20:28] <live_high5> I receive a "200 stream not found......" error on this one tube flash website and NOT others. I am running ubuntu 12.10  firefox 22.0. can anyone fix this?
[20:29] <jrib> idlemichael: because you have a hard limit preventing that value?
[20:29] <idlemichael> bekks: yes --  ulimit: Illegal option -u
[20:29] <usercheck_> *excuse me,.i have been installed nmap. how to scan open port(open port that i'm not use) in my computer?,
[20:29] <MikeRL> rpdisk: Sometimes older Ubuntu releases have driver issue. How old is this computer?
[20:29] <Kitt3n> ripdisk, sounds like a serious hardware problem
[20:29] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: but even in that event, Canonical would only care if you were making money, lots of money, off it
[20:29] <bekks> idlemichael: It fails because -u is an illegal option.
[20:29] <idlemichael> bekks: this is the first time i've ever seen taht -- i've used it before on other installs just fine
[20:29] <MikeRL> ripdisk: Sometimes older Ubuntu releases have driver issue. How old is this computer?
[20:30] <ShadowBlaze18> reisio: I found something here: http://www.canonical.com/intellectual-property-policy in section 3 that may be a trademark issue for selling something with "Ubuntu"
[20:30] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: you might like ##law
[20:30] <scheidm> I believe my current issue is the difference between having resized the partition and the filesystem...can anyone explain how one expands the partition with root on it? I looked into resize2fs but I've hit a lock
[20:30] <ripdisk> Kitt3n, if it were a hardware problem, why did the livecd work?
[20:30] <ShadowBlaze18> reisio, lol, do you think it's fine?
[20:30] <MikeRL> Oh, already found help.
[20:30] <ripdisk> mikejw_: it's fairly new.
[20:30] <live_high5> I receive a "200 stream not found......" error on this one tube flash website and NOT others. I am running ubuntu 12.10  firefox 22.0. how can I fix this?
[20:30] <mojtaba> Kitt3n: What command should I use for uninstalling KDE?
[20:30] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: yes it is
[20:30] <MikeRL> Oh, then in that case, have you tried a live cd of 13.04?
[20:31] <ShadowBlaze18> okay
[20:31] <Kitt3n> mojtaba, apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[20:31] <ShadowBlaze18> thank you
[20:31] <jrib> idlemichael: are you using bash...?
[20:31] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: you talking about the fourth bullet?
[20:31] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: of section 3?
[20:31] <mojtaba> Kitt3n: Thank you
[20:31] <idlemichael> jrib: yes i'm using bash
[20:31] <ripdisk> no, I used my only blank cd on the version the website said was supported.
[20:31] <ripdisk> and since the live cd worked, i figured if I installed it would work too.
[20:31] <Kitt3n> ripdisk, try use the livdcd again
[20:31] <jrib> idlemichael: you're sure?
[20:32] <ripdisk> ok.
[20:32] <live_high5> there any other ubuntu channels where you can receive help?
[20:32] <reisio> live_high5: /msg alis list *ubuntu*
[20:32] <idlemichael> jrib: vagrant@chef-mongdb-berkshelf:~$ echo $SHELL
[20:32] <idlemichael> /bin/bash
[20:32] <MikeRL> Just because it's supported doesn't mean it will work all the time. I would set up a temporary install of 13.04 and try that. Maybe you need updated X/drivers.
[20:32] <jrib> idlemichael: what does your "ulimit -a" output look like?
[20:33] <ripdisk> why didn't the install just use the same x drivers it used when it booted from livecd? that doesnt make any sense to me.
[20:33] <idlemichael> jrib: i think you're right actually -- the process that runs this script might not be using bash. if i preceed my script call with bash, instead of sh, it works
[20:33] <Kitt3n> ripdisk, does the livecd WORK now?
[20:33] <MikeRL> Something may be up with your install. I'm kind of a noob myself, but maybe an update borked something.
[20:34] <jrib> idlemichael: the ulimit in dash seems to use -p instead of -u for process limit
[20:34] <ripdisk> appears so, so far...just tried booting.
[20:34] <ShadowBlaze18> reisio, no second bullet point
[20:34] <Chadman> An_Ony_Moose: are you here?
[20:34] <ripdisk> at the ubuntu loading screen.
[20:35] <MikeRL> Maybe it cannot handle 3d Unity. Does it work when you select "Try Ubuntu"?
[20:35] <idlemichael> jrib: turns out this is coming out of an /etc/init.d/ script -- can i changed the header from #!/bin/sh to #!/bin/bash and not worry?
[20:35] <live_high5> I receive a "200 stream not found......" error on this one tube flash website and NOT others. I am running ubuntu 12.10  firefox 22.0. how can I fix this?
[20:35] <scheidm> my question seems to have been lost in the shuffle. can someone explain how one expands the filesystem of root? I've hit a lock issue after resizing the partition
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> !patience | live_high5
[20:36] <reisio> scheidm: what's the error?
[20:36] <jrib> idlemichael: dash is a lighter shell than bash; as long as you're okay with that, it should be fine
[20:36] <usercheck_> ok,thx.i have been given answer by linux channel about open port.thx
[20:36] <ripdisk> okay, just clicked try ubuntu.
[20:36] <idlemichael> jrib: i'm personally fine using bash, i just want to make sure unix might be ;) thanks for the help!
[20:36] <MikeRL> ripdisk: Google is your friend. http://askubuntu.com/questions/156329/screen-flickering-in-ubuntu-12-04-lts
[20:37] <ripdisk> alright yeah, the ''try ubuntu'' button loaded it up just fine
[20:37] <MikeRL> Is it in Unity 2d? Do you have effects?
[20:37] <MikeRL> ripdisk: http://askubuntu.com/questions/62001/am-i-using-unity-or-unity-2d
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> live_high5, post the url of that.
[20:38] <ShadowBlaze18> reisio, and I'm guessing canonical means modified versions as in source code and not by adding a text or paint file in section 2?
[20:38] <ripdisk> mikeRL how do I do those steps if I can't boot into ubuntu
[20:38] <scheidm> reisio: it said it was unable to obtain a file lock. let me rerun it to give you the exact error
[20:38] <MikeRL> from the live cd
[20:38] <MikeRL> You can get into the livecd, right?
[20:40] <ripdisk> oh ok
[20:40] <ripdisk> I didn't know things I did on the live cd would effect my install
[20:40] <Afflicto> wilee-nilee: Ok so I found some proprietary AMD drivers only.
[20:40] <MikeRL> Hmm. I cannot remember 100%, but I believe the live CD boots into either Unity 2d or Unity CD. No, it won't effect your install.
[20:41] <Kitt3n> ripdisk, it does if you mount the hard drive and edit it the OS from the livecd.
[20:41] <scheidm> reisio: device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda5 Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> Afflicto, In the additional drivers or the web?
[20:41] <toshiba> hi friends
[20:41] <Afflicto> wilee-nilee: the additional drivers.
[20:41] <toshiba> I need to download a torrent file
[20:41] <ripdisk> oh...really strange. the first post talked about how on a laptop when he closed the lid and opened it again the flicker stopped....so i turned my monitor off and now I see the grub screen and the flickering stopped
[20:41] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: you might enjoy ##law
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> Afflicto, Cool that would be my first choice.
[20:41] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: trademarks are so you cannot _trade_ (make money) on someone else's _mark_ (name/logo)
[20:41] <ShadowBlaze18> reisio, lol
[20:41] <Afflicto> wilee-nilee: What do you mean web?, shall I google for drivers?
[20:41] <ripdisk> wtf
[20:41] <MikeRL> ripdisk: Let me Google this up.
[20:41] <ripdisk> login screen now, working fine
[20:42] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: you are two times safe, because not only are you not making money, but you are not calling something 'Ubuntu' that is not Ubuntu
[20:42] <ripdisk> apparently turning my monitor off and on works.....so i'm gonna follow the steps on this link
[20:42] <toshiba> and it is asking me the default program with which I would be downloading the torrent file.....
[20:42] <toshiba> how do i select that?
[20:42] <columb> Could someone suggest me a tool with gui for file transfer via SSH?
[20:42] <ShadowBlaze18> reisio, would making money off of the computer that was advertised as having Ubuntu OS be an issue?
[20:42] <toshiba> i need to download a torrent file
[20:42] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: nope
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> Afflicto, Not at this point the term proprietary made me wonder if from amd straight, generally the drivers from the ubuntu repos are all you need, as they have been tweaked and checked to work.
[20:43] <ripdisk> so now....it sure will be cool if my wifi adapter works just from plugging it in.
[20:43] <ShadowBlaze18> reisio, okay thank you, sorry for all these questions
[20:43] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: it your right to sell any physical object that you rightfully own to someone else, in virtually any state in the world
[20:43] <MikeRL> ripdisk: Maybe it needs proprietary drivers.
[20:43] <Afflicto> wilee-nilee: ok..
[20:43] <MikeRL> ripdisk: What is the model of your adapter?
[20:43] <ripdisk> it worked
[20:43] <ripdisk> wow
[20:43] <ripdisk> nice
[20:44] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: even if it had a copy of Microsoft Windows on it, you could sell it, that is not your problem
[20:44] <toshiba> and it is asking me the default program with which I would be downloading the torrent file.....
[20:44] <ShadowBlaze18> alright
[20:44] <ShadowBlaze18> thank you
[20:44] <MikeRL> So everything's working now, ripdisk? Always Google first. It's extremely useful. But if you need help, feel free to ask.
[20:44] <maddy__> hi
[20:44] <Afflicto> wilee-nilee: brb 15 min. thanks for help so far. I just need to do something quickjmyl!
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> Afflicto, No problem, hope this does it.
[20:45] <reisio> maddy__: hi
[20:45] <MikeRL> ripdisk: Everything working now?
[20:45] <toshiba> and it is asking me the default program with which I would be downloading the torrent file.....
[20:45] <scheidm> Rephrasing the question: If you have spare space after the root partition on ubuntu, what is the best way to expand the filesystem into that space?
[20:46] <maddy__> @reisio: hello, and where u from ?
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> scheidm, gparted on a live cd.
[20:46] <reisio> toshiba: install deluge
[20:46] <reisio> maddy__: Florida, USA
[20:46] <ripdisk> MikeRL: well, I saw a post on an askubuntu link somebody pasted....and somebody had the same problem on a laptop with it flickerng but it stopped when they closed the lid and opened it....so I turned my monitor off and on, and it worked too.
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> scheidm, Turn off the swap as well if on.
[20:46] <ShadowBlaze18> bye, thanks again, reisio
[20:46] <ripdisk> but there are listed steps to make it to where I don't have to do that.
[20:46] <MikeRL> ripdisk: What about the adapter?
[20:47] <MikeRL> ripdisk: There are many results for Googling the issue. If one doesn't work, revert back.
[20:47] <scheidm> wilee: I used gparted to resize the partition itself, but the filesystem doesn't recognize the new available space
[20:47] <ripdisk> mikerl: the network adapter worked as soon as I plugged it in....it was like YO, WIFI NETWORKS DETECTED HOLMES.
[20:47] <maddy__> @reisio: sounds great :)
 : it has already transmission bit torrent client inside it
[20:48] <reisio> there are worse places
[20:48] <MikeRL> ripdisk: Awesome, so everything's fixed. Great.
[20:48] <reisio> toshiba: good to go, then
[20:48] <toshiba> but how do i download
[20:48] <toshiba> it's asking me to launch an application to download the torrent file
[20:48] <MikeRL> Torrent? Transmission. Search for it in the Software Center.
[20:49] <toshiba> how do I choose the application path?
[20:49] <MikeRL> Don't worry about that. Install Transmission first.
[20:49] <lichkrieg> I made an encrypted root setup with unencrypted boot partition, but when I boot I get dropped to initramfs with an error saying it took too long waiting for my decrypted root device
[20:49] <lichkrieg> how can I debug what's causing this?
[20:49] <willi_> #list
[20:50] <MikeRL> toshiba: Have you tried the application yet?
[20:50] <toshiba> I have opened in a different process
[20:50] <scheidm> beyond resizing the partition itself, what do you need to do to the filesystem to recognize extra space?
[20:52] <MikeRL> toshiba: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BitTorrent
[20:52] <MikeRL> toshiba: Is anything even installed to handle bittorrent files?
[20:53] <rypervenche> scheidm: resize2fs /dev/sXY if it's ext2, 3 or 4
[20:53] <wilee-nilee>  scheidm, Is this a virtual?
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> MikeRL, yes.
[20:54] <MikeRL> wilee-nilee: What?
[20:54] <MikeRL> wilee-nilee: Are you here to help?
[20:54] <wilee-nilee> MikeRL, Transmission, I use deluge myself.
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | MikeRL
[20:55] <scheidm> wilee: aye. #vbox pointed me to resize2fs but I had little luck with that tool
[20:55] <reisio> MikeRL: toshiba said he had transmission
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> scheidm, You can rebuild a new machine the size you want and use the vdi.
[20:56] <MikeRL> Ah. Yes. It was a misunderstanding. But Firefox cannot see the executable.
[20:56] <MikeRL> ?
[20:56] <reisio> MikeRL: sure it can
[20:56] <MikeRL> So what is his problem?
[20:56] <reisio> I don't know
[20:56] <reisio> toshiba: do you have a problem?
[20:56] <MikeRL> I may have came in too late...
[20:56] <occ> i have a drug problem
[20:56] <scheidm> wilee: is is really easier to rebuild and reconfigure a box than to resize a virtual hdd?
[20:57] <scheidm> I can go that route, but I figured it would be far more time consuming
[20:57] <MikeRL> toshiba: Is transmission installed? If it is, I can help you find the executable.
[20:57] <reisio> occ: gj
[20:57] <ald> Hello evrybody, sorry for my english no extraordinary. I've question, I wanna know why I can't see on my xubuntu from 2 years ago
[20:57] <ald> video .mov
[20:57] <reisio> ald: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> scheidm, Assuming you have an dynamically allocated setup not fixed setuo I would assume as well.
[20:58] <wilee-nilee> ald, What release of xubuntu?
[20:58] <ald> For you is a system problem or format problem, cos I, really see vide, but very bad
[20:58] <Chadman> hello everybody.
[20:58] <Chadman> I said, hello.
[20:59] <Chadman> SO yeah.
[20:59] <reisio> Chadman: yeah, 'lo
[20:59] <scheidm> wilee: it's a dynamic box, but for some reason the author set it to 8gigs max. hence the need to resize. I just don't know what step 2 is, having resized the partition with gparted
[20:59] <Afflicto> wilee-nilee: I'm back. I started apt-get upgrade before I left btw.
[20:59] <Chadman> how can I use v4l2loopback or mplayer, or webcamstudio to show images on a virtual webam?
[20:59] <Chadman> yo reisio, help me out.
[20:59] <reisio> scheidm: frequently that is the last step
[20:59] <reisio> Chadman: ok
[20:59] <Chadman> reisio. \m/ lend me a hand, brah.
[20:59] <reisio> righto
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> ald, what does this say lsb_release -a
[20:59] <scheidm> alas, rebooting still shows 8 gigs of storage
[21:00] <Chadman> so how can I, make a cool virtual webcam and like
[21:00] <Chadman> display gifs and stuff
[21:00] <MikeRL> Sorry for repost. I have patience but this was posted over half an hour ago, so you all might have not seen it:  Oh, yes. I am running into a bug with vino-server (see here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/1196668) and am wondering since on both my computers, even after a reformat on one, the server acts up. After changing the settings via Desktop Sharing, the icon disappears. Basically vino-server just crashes in the
[21:00] <MikeRL> background. If anyone would be so kind to invest a little time, could I gain some assistance with either finding out how to stop the crashing or a workaround to get remote desktop working. Vinagre terminates when attempting to connect, and cannot see other computers on the local network by the way.
[21:00] <Chadman> like in manycam, manycam makes a virtual-webcam called Manycam-Video
[21:00] <Chadman> which can display good stuff like gifs
[21:00] <Chadman> movies
[21:00] <Chadman> yea
[21:00] <Chadman> how can I do that in linux yo.
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> Afflicto, You go girl/man, lol
[21:00] <Chadman> please help me, or I shall convert to windows man.
[21:01] <Chadman> wilee-nilee, all you gotta do is, help me out.
[21:01] <nitrodex> never go to windows
[21:01] <Chadman> right now, all ya'll gotta do is, help me out.
[21:01] <nitrodex> windows is a complete fail
[21:01] <nitrodex> stick with *nix
[21:01] <Chadman> nitrodex, i will have to if ya'll cant help me out.
[21:01] <nitrodex> what do you need help with?
[21:01] <Chadman> nitrodex, *nix sucks.
[21:01] <MikeRL> Not the dark side. Or should I say, blue side?
[21:01] <Afflicto> wilee-nilee: man lol
[21:01] <Chadman> it really does, dude.
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> Chadman, Addressing people in the channel without being addressed is bad.
[21:01] <Afflicto> wilee-nilee: OH.. lol xD
[21:01] <ripdisk> so....is there something to download and install software from terminal on ubuntu
[21:01] <Chadman> nitrodex, man
[21:01] <Afflicto> wilee-nilee: thought you were "asking" me. :P
[21:01] <Chadman> nitrodex, please help me stick with linux.
[21:01] <nitrodex> whats up dude
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[21:02] <Chadman> nitrodex, how can i make a virtual-webcam
[21:02] <Chadman> and like
[21:02] <nitrodex> just ask your question
[21:02] <ShadowBlaze18> hi, reisio, you can take videos of Ubuntu right without any needed permission?
[21:02] <Chadman> show gifs, images
[21:02] <cortexman1> I installed kernel 3.2 into precise. why does it show up in grub under "Previous linux versions" which prevents me from setting it to the default?
[21:02] <Chadman> How do I make a virtual webcam for linux that will point to images?
[21:02] <nitrodex> use a webcam utility
[21:02] <nitrodex> for ubuntu
[21:02] <ripdisk> so....is there something to download and install software from terminal on ubuntu?
[21:02] <nitrodex> google for the utility
[21:02] <Chadman> like in windows, good ol' manycam makes a virtual-webcam known as manycam-video which can show gif and stuff
[21:02] <Chadman> webcamstudio fails hard.
[21:02] <Chadman> and when i say hard, i mean really hard
[21:02] <nitrodex> we are not talking about windows here
[21:02] <MikeRL> cortexman: Try grub customizer.
[21:02] <nitrodex> this is #ubuntu
[21:02] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: course
[21:02] <nitrodex> we talk about ubuntu
[21:02] <Chadman> nitrodex, im giving you a example.
[21:02] <nitrodex> ;)
[21:03] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: youtube is full of them
[21:03] <FloodBot1> nitrodex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:03] <Chadman> since you can't understand on what im tryna say
[21:03] <nitrodex> yes I know what you mean
[21:03] <ShadowBlaze18> lol, okay, reisio, thank you
[21:03] <Chadman> nitrodex, how can i do this dude.
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> ald, THere are ubuntu channels for many languages if you need direction there state your native language.
[21:03] <Chadman> shadowblaze18, be a good boy and help me out.
[21:03] <nitrodex> just google for webcam utilities dude
[21:03] <Chadman> dude......
[21:03] <Chadman> it doesn't work
[21:03] <Chadman> i tried all things
[21:03] <ShadowBlaze18> Chadman?
[21:03] <Chadman> v4l2loopback
[21:03] <nitrodex> don't troll here
[21:03] <FloodBot1> Chadman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:03] <nitrodex> thx
[21:03] <ald> Nothing to do guys, i'0ve installed extra restricted format but I had already this but i cannot see video. mov 1080p
[21:03] <ald> Why? :(
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> !ot | nitrodex
[21:03] <Chadman> nitrodex, you know mplayer/v4l2loopback?
[21:04] <Chadman> wilee-nilee <3
[21:04] <nitrodex> yes I do
[21:04] <reisio> ald: what happens when you try to play it?
[21:04] <nitrodex> I am helping ubottu
[21:04] <Chadman> how do I display images on /dev/video0 thru mplayer
[21:04] <ShadowBlaze18> Chadman, I can't really help, sorry, I don't have a linux OS yet
[21:04] <ald> I see the video and audio very bad
[21:04] <Chadman> ald, yes very bad
[21:04] <nitrodex> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Webcam_Setup
[21:04] <Chadman> very very bad, ald
[21:04] <nitrodex> check it out
[21:04] <ald> and
[21:04] <gordonjcp> Chadman: /dev/video0 sounds like a capture device
[21:04] <Chadman> ald, are you indian lol
[21:05] <ald> trilling
[21:05] <ShadowBlaze18> reisio, even if it isn't under fair use, it's okay?
[21:05] <Chadman> gordonjcp! the savior of all saviors!
[21:05] <Chadman> please lend me a hand in this case.
[21:05] <Chadman> i've been asking for help since ages in #ubuntu
[21:05] <ald> No, itlaian
[21:05] <nitrodex> had enough of your trolling
[21:05] <Chadman> im not trolling dude
[21:05] <wluijben> I created an USB installer USB but it didn't install a bootloader
[21:05] <MikeRL> I've been looking for help even longer. Patience is a virtue.
[21:05] <Chadman> gordonjcp, how can i display images on /dev/video8
[21:05] <Chadman> sorry, i meant video0
[21:05] <Chadman> or make a virtual webcam
[21:05] <Chadman> and display images/gifs on it.
[21:05] <reisio> ShadowBlaze18: nobody is going to care unless you try to sell it, or pretend that something Ubuntu is not is Ubuntu or vice versa
[21:06] <ald> I'm reallt disperate for this reason :(
[21:06] <ripdisk> so....is there something to download and install software from terminal on ubuntu? from repositories?
[21:06] <gordonjcp> Chadman: ooooh wait
[21:06] <ShadowBlaze18> alright, thanks reisio, that will be all my questions for now
[21:06] <ShadowBlaze18> :)
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> ripdisk apt-get
[21:06] <wluijben> bootloader anyone?
[21:06] <ald> reisio?
[21:06] <gordonjcp> Chadman: you mean, you want to play back some video, which you then capture as though it was coming from a capture source on /dev/video0?
[21:06] <ripdisk> wait...wtf, i can't even find the freaking terminal
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> !apt-get | ripdisk
[21:07] <Chadman> gordonjcp, example: in windows, manycam creates a virtual-webcam called manycam-video, and people can display images, movies and stuff on it, like a video source, in linux, how can i do that?
[21:07] <Chadman> like in omegle, it shows HP-WEBCAM 101
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> ripdisk, Do not swear and hit ctrl-alt-t
[21:07] <MikeRL> Have you tried Cheese?
[21:07] <gordonjcp> Chadman: not hard of that, I don't know how to use Windows
[21:07] <ripdisk> since when was freaking a swear word
[21:07] <wluijben>  /casper/vmlinuz: file not found
[21:07] <Chadman> gordonjcp, how can I make a virtual webcam and show images on it?
[21:07] <ripdisk> i thought freaking is what you said when you were trying not to swear, soryr.
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> ripdisk, acronyms are
[21:08] <reisio> ald: ?
[21:08] <ripdisk> how is that...an acronym?
[21:08] <ald> Can you hel me?
[21:08] <ald> p
[21:08] <MikeRL> The censors are worse here than in American TV.
[21:08] <wilee-nilee> ripdisk, DUDE LOOK AT YOUR POSTS.
[21:08] <gordonjcp> Chadman: looks like you've already found v4l2-loopback
[21:08] <Chadman> gordonjcp, how can I use it?
[21:08] <wilee-nilee> idiot
[21:08] <ripdisk> oh
[21:08] <gordonjcp> Chadman: don't know, it's not something I've ever played with
[21:08] <ripdisk> it's because i dropped the dubyatee eff bomb.
[21:08] <Chadman> </3 gordonjcp
[21:09] <zipy> dont say bomb
[21:09] <ripdisk> ..
[21:09] <zipy> u will get filterd out by nsa
[21:09] <Chadman> .....this is making me hate linux omg
[21:09] <ald> I cannot see, i've installed the pachet by but nothingù
[21:09] <MikeRL> Back on topic time. LOL.
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> !ot | zipy
[21:09] <Afflicto> wilee-nilee: ok, updated and rebooted. not fixed.
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> Afflicto, That is my limitation, I would start a thread at the ubuntu forums as well, I saw that computer mentioned on the web with other problems must be users there
[21:11] <MikeRL> So I don't get on anyone's nerves and you all have time to help these guys, I'm going to go do something else now. But every 10 minutes expect me to check back here for an answer. No offense intended. Just know everyone's busy.
[21:11] <gordonjcp> Chadman: to be fair, it's a pretty strange niche case
[21:11] <gordonjcp> !ask | MikeRL
[21:11] <Chadman> gordonjcp, how can I point /dev/video0 to display gifs?
[21:11] <habstinat> What is Ubuntu's default GTK3 theme? Like /usr/share/themes/(name)...?
[21:11] <gordonjcp> Chadman: I don't know, it's not something many people ever do
[21:11] <gordonjcp> Chadman: because it's such a deeply weirdass question I am actually giving up a chunk of my evening to trying to work it out
[21:12] <Chadman> gordonjcp, keep it as a challenge, if you manage to solve it out, you're gonna do 500,000 people a favour. (many people suffer from this problem)
[21:12] <tannji> lol
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> habstinat, adwaita
[21:12] <Afflicto> wilee-nilee: ok thanks a lot, I'll keep trying
[21:12] <Chadman> I happily mark this problem, as "Linux's Most Asked Question"
[21:12] <tannji> lol
[21:12] <Chadman> "How can I make a virtual webcam and point it to images?
[21:12] <gordonjcp> Chadman: I've never heard of anyone ever trying to play back gifs into a video capture program
[21:13] <Chadman> that's a question, that makes linux look like dogshit.
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> Afflicto, bummer when it does not work out of the box and with drivers. :(
[21:13] <gordonjcp> Chadman: <shrug>
[21:13] <habstinat> wilee-nilee: Capital or lowercase A in /usr/share/themes/? I don't have Ubuntu and I need to know.
[21:13] <gordonjcp> Chadman: and now you've lost my interest
[21:13] <Chadman> gordonjcp: can you help me on this case?
[21:13] <tannji> just gets better and better
[21:13] <h00k> also, please keep the language appropriate in here, Chadman
[21:13] <gordonjcp> Chadman: but as I said, I have seriously never, ever heard of anyone doing that and can't think of a good reason why
[21:13] <Afflicto> wilee-nilee: yeah :\
[21:14] <zipy> for what reason do u need gifs in a webcam
[21:14] <Chadman> h00k, are you aware of v4l2loopback?
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> habstinat, Adwaita
[21:14] <Chadman> zipy, omegle.
[21:14] <occ> i just installed ubuntu and it worked fine, then i installed xp and it worked fine.... now trying to install ubuntu again... but when i type in my username and password during install and click ok... it crashes and i get error "stopping system v runlevel compatibility"
[21:14] <gordonjcp> Chadman: no, not if you're going to make derogatory remarks about Linux like that
[21:14] <tannji> I am interested enough to ask why you need to vid gifs
[21:14] <gordonjcp> Chadman: if it works in Windows, use Windows.
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> occ, You can run and remove both of both those dektops in one install.
[21:14] <zipy> u cant put images in a video stream
[21:15] <tannji> why not use and app to capture the gifs on the desktop?
[21:15] <zipy> u may want to overlay ur webcam with images?
[21:15] <Chadman> yes zipy
[21:15] <Chadman> i want to overlay it.
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> occ, oops my bad I saw xubuntu not xp.
[21:15] <Chadman> gordonjcp, zipy might be able to solve this situation and do the universe a favor.
[21:15] <columb> Floppy DIsk is sticked at ubuntu sidebar and nautilus by default.
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> occ, Check the md5 of the ubuntu iso you loaded
[21:16] <columb> >2013
[21:16] <columb> >Floppy Disc
[21:16] <columb> Why?
[21:16] <zipy> u mean like fake hair, hats etc in ur cam?
[21:16] <h00k> columb: does your hardware include a 3.5" drive?
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> !enter | columb
[21:16] <MasterBob> Okay. so I have a machine X whose DNS isn't working. X can SSH into Y. Y has internet access. I created an ssh tunnel on X to Y using " ssh -p $port -f -N user@Y -D 25000". I added the "Acquire::http::Proxy "http://localhost:25000" to a newly created /etc/apt/apt.conf.  Using apt-config dump confirms that the proxy was loaded. But whenever try and do apt-update, I get Connection Failure. Any thoughts?
[21:16] <occ> wilee-nilee, the ubuntu dvd is fine, it is the same dvd/iso i used to install ubuntu on this laptop 3 hours ago
[21:17] <tannji> why not do overlay with an app, instead of a clumsy bubblegum and bandaid approach?.
[21:17] <gordonjcp> Chadman: I'm still really not clear on what you're trying to achieve with this
[21:17] <h00k> columb: external storage is shown on the sidebar by default (External USB drives, floppy drives, external SATA drives)
[21:18] <h00k> columb: if they exist.
[21:18] <Chadman> zipy, no no, in omegle, i want to troll people.
[21:18] <Chadman> and show them gifs of other people.
[21:18] <Chadman> like, a video source.
[21:18] <columb> h00k, I don't have anything to put Floppy disc into.
[21:19] <OerHeks> columb, that occurs when the floppy interface is enabled in the bios, even when no floppy drive is attached
[21:19] <h00k> columb: your BIOS must be reporting that you do, consider turning it off there, then it shouldn't show up when available
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> occ, Have you tried more than once since this has happened and included a reboot, I see that error on the web in numerous circumstances but no real answers.
[21:20] <occ> yes this is the third time iv tried, rebooted 3 times too
[21:20] <OerHeks> colomb as it is a default setting, floppy enabled, check all other options in your bios too
[21:20] <habstinat> I want my menus to look normal; what problem does <http://i.imgur.com/bf9f04m.png> indicate? GTK3 theme problem?
[21:21] <occ> i dont get it because the first time it installed and worked..... but then rebooted and manually deleted all the partitions, then i tried to install ubuntu again and it didnt work and i got the error, so i used an xp recovery disk to format and install xp and it installed and worked ok.... then i tried to install ubuntu again twice and got the error again
[21:22] <OerHeks> occ,  hdd is a SATA disk?
[21:22] <occ> yyeh a sata. fairly old
[21:23] <occ> 100gb
[21:23] <OerHeks> XP needs a bios setting AHCI to ide mode, linux needs native AHCI
[21:23] <OerHeks> This is to avoid loading sata interfce drivers in XP
[21:23] <ximian> OerHerks: Linux shoult work in IDE mode
[21:23] <ximian> should*
[21:24] <OerHeks> ximian, not AFAIK, you can install in IDE mode, but need to turn to AHCI to boot
[21:24] <zipy> Chadman, https://hardc0l2e.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/fake-webcam-in-ubuntu-linux/
[21:25] <wluijben> I just installed ubuntu it does not seem to have GUI suppor for some reason
[21:25] <reisio> wluijben: was it the server edition?
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> wluijben, Meaning?
[21:25] <wluijben> No I downloaded the desktop client.
[21:25] <Chadman> zipy, are you aware of webcamstudio?
[21:25] <wluijben> I renamed /casper/vmlinuz to make USB installer work
[21:25] <zipy> nope x)
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> wluijben, Black screen at boot?
[21:26] <zipy> but watch the screenshots
[21:26] <tannji> Chadman,  why dont you look into Recordmydesktop
[21:26] <wluijben> I boot into ubuntu using GRUB
[21:26] <wluijben> screen purple showing ubuntu logo
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> wluijben, YOU are missing the point here, details.
[21:27] <Chadman> tannji, hows that supposed to help me?
[21:27] <wilee-nilee> in one post
[21:28] <wluijben> Now that I rebooted I get the standard desktop look ( I set option to login automagically)
[21:28] <tannji> because some people use that to capture gifs, screencaps, or make screencaps into gifs, which they add to vids for youtube, omegle, etc
[21:28] <wluijben> But now the top bar is grey and unsonsive
[21:28] <wluijben> unresponsive*
[21:28] <DaleFernandes> Hello everyone :)
[21:28] <wluijben> All icons on left bar don't repond either, mouse icon freeze
[21:28] <puff> I'm running 13 raring, I can't find the hiberate (suspend to disk) option.  Is it hidden somewhere, or simply unavailable?
[21:29] <DaleFernandes> Just a quick shout out, i'm new here, very excited, can't wait to dive in :) However i'm going to sleep now :) See you all tomorrow, good night
[21:29] <reisio> night
[21:29] <kurugah_> hey
[21:29] <Kitt3n> Night, new guy
[21:29] <tannji> DaleFernandes,  good for you !  goodnight  = )
[21:30] <MikeRL> I'm so tempted to say don't let the drones and NSA bugs bite.
[21:30] <wluijben> I guess I will reinstall Ubuntu
[21:30] <tannji> lol
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> puff, hibernate and suspend are not the same. http://linuxg.net/enable-hibernation-on-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail/
[21:30] <LInux123> When remote desktop'ing from windows 7 to 12.04 I only get the background of the linux box and the one icon that is on the desktop. Any idea whats causing this?
[21:30] <usercheck_> just now, several minute ago, i was try nmap to scan open port in my computer(ubuntu 10.04).result=open port 631. how to close it?
[21:31] <puff> wilee-nilee: Hibernate and sleep are two common terms for suspend-to-disk and suspend-to-ram.
[21:31] <gordonjcp> usercheck_: do you know what that port is?
[21:31] <puff> wilee-nilee: Thanks for the link.
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> usercheck_, THis a desktop if so it is end of life.
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> puff, Right, but on the channel we have to make sure we are communicating.
[21:32] <usercheck_> gordonjcp, that i know, the port = data roadway.
[21:32] <kurugah_> i need help getting my hdmi connection to work with 13.04 on an asus zenbook prime with an intel hd4000
[21:32] <gordonjcp> usercheck_: okay, but do you know what specifically port 631 does?
[21:32] <lozanotux> guys
[21:33] <TheUsD> When remote desktop'ing from windows 7 to 12.04 I only get the background of the linux box and the one icon that is on the desktop. Any idea what is causing this?
[21:33] <gordonjcp> usercheck_: because if you don't know that, how do you know whether or not you should close the port?
[21:33] <usercheck_> wilee-nilee, thx
[21:33] <reisio> TheUsD: disable desktop effects
[21:33] <gordonjcp> !repeat  | TheUsD
[21:33] <usercheck_> gordonjcp, that i know it is to print.
[21:33] <gordonjcp> usercheck_: okay
[21:33] <lozanotux> why... in Ubuntu installation (12.04 or 12.10) the download repository and language, etc... is very slow??? i have a 3 Mb internet
[21:33] <tannji> kurugah_,  probably need to install aRandr
[21:33] <gordonjcp> usercheck_: so if you shut down printing services, you will close that port
[21:33] <TheUsD> Just logging into different name;
[21:33] <gordonjcp> usercheck_: you also won't be able to print
[21:33] <gordonjcp> usercheck_: why do you want to close it?
[21:34] <reisio> lozanotux: where're you downloading from, and to?
[21:34] <kurugah_> tannji, ty will try now
[21:34] <Afflicto> Ok, since ubuntu is f**ked, anyone reccomend a good distro for web development?
[21:34] <tannji> kurugah_,  np.  good luck
[21:34] <Kitt3n> Afflicto, Kubuntu
[21:34] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: Ubuntu
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> lozanotux, You can search for the fastest ping to repos in software sources.
[21:34] <reisio> Afflicto: how's it fscked?
[21:34] <ripdisk> how do i make it to where  can do stuff in terminal on LIVECD that will effect my installed ubuntu?
[21:34] <reisio> ripdisk: chroot
[21:34] <gordonjcp> ripdisk: you need to mount the partition that you installed to with chroot
[21:34] <gordonjcp> !chroot | ripdisk
[21:34] <lozanotux> from ar.ubuntu.com
[21:35] <lozanotux> and archive.ubuntu.com
[21:35] <ripdisk> yeah but what is it, just /
[21:35] <lozanotux> Argentina and US servers are identical speed download
[21:35] <usercheck_> gordonjcp, in my computer i'm not use printer. i want to close the port caused that i know "for security our computer ,we can close ports that we not use that", is it correct?
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> lozanotux, YOu may be throttled as well I have 7MB but can't go any fasyter then 700kb in downloads
[21:35] <wluijben> I just downloaded Ubuntu with 15MB/s
[21:36] <Kitt3n> usercheck_, disable the printing service(s)?
[21:36] <ripdisk> what is the rot dir even called
[21:36] <ripdisk> is it just / or what
[21:36] <wilee-nilee> lozanotux, May be, however checking the pings may get you what you want.
[21:36] <Kitt3n> ripdisk, /
[21:36] <lozanotux> 1 month ago the download was fast
[21:36] <ripdisk> i tried chroot / and it says not permited....so i need a pw or what
[21:36] <wluijben> No throttle here
[21:36] <gordonjcp> usercheck_: it really doesn't matter, particularly if you're behind a NAT router
[21:36] <wilee-nilee> lozanotux, YOu are my favourite type of poster, you have all the answers and ignore help.
[21:36] <lichkrieg> anyone know how to work crypttab?
[21:36] <Kitt3n> ripdisk, sudo chroot?
[21:37] <ripdisk> tharwego
[21:37] <benbloom> can someone look over my fstab (http://paste.ubuntu.com/5838350/) and make sure I'm not doing something stupid? I'm trying to preserve the microSD card that my TrimSlice (Precise armhf) uses for it's root fs. Obvously my media and nfs mounts are irrelevant. I'm mainly looking for help with the commented lines at the top of the fstab. I've not had a problem with it, I just was hoping for a second pair of eyes to help proofread it
[21:37] <benbloom> before I try to boot with it. It's difficult to troubleshoot because the Trimslice is headless.
[21:37] <lozanotux> my native language is Spanish
[21:37] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: in all seriousness, what problems are you running into doing web dev on Ubuntu?
[21:37] <usercheck_> Kitt3n, yes.
[21:37] <lozanotux> and very bad!
[21:37] <gordonjcp> lozanotux: have you tried asking in #ubuntu-es?
[21:37] <kurugah_> tannji hmm what do i do with it?
[21:37] <lozanotux> #ubuntu channel is better
[21:37] <Afflicto> gordonjcp: I can't get keyboard or touchpad to work.
[21:37] <lozanotux> or not?
[21:38] <usercheck_> gordonjcp, thx, but i don't know about NAt router.
[21:38] <wluijben> After I install Ubuntu can I remove USB?
[21:38] <lozanotux> yesterday the Ubuntu 12.04 isntallation delay 2 hours
[21:38] <gordonjcp> benbloom: that's a lot of mountpoints; try adding just one or two
[21:39] <wluijben> Or change BIOS boot?
[21:40] <benbloom> someone at #ubuntu-arm suggested that I make symbolic links instead of bind mounts for /opt /usr and /var wwould that work gordonjcp?
[21:40] <sysdrum> hello
[21:41] <MikeRL> So, to simplify my question, anyone know how to work around a vino-server bug?
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> hidee, hidee, hoe
[21:41] <wluijben> I installed ubuntu again, still it didn't install properly.
[21:42] <wluijben> This time I installed from newly downloaded and newly created USB installer.
[21:42] <MikeRL> Damaged installation media perhaps?
[21:42] <wluijben> Or bad graphics detection.
[21:42] <MikeRL> A scratched disk will ruin any chance of anything working. I'm cheap and reuse DVDRWs as much as possible.
[21:43] <gordonjcp> benbloom: I don't know enough about the Trimslice
[21:43] <withnale_> are there any really good alternatives to banshee and rhythmbox?
[21:43] <usercheck_> gordonjcp, thx sir. maybe in the next time i will trying to learning about nat router. but when i'm try netstat -ltnp :i found port 631 state LISTEN.is it also no problem sir?
[21:43] <gordonjcp> usercheck_: is your computer directly connected to the Internet?
[21:44] <MikeRL> If streaming's your thing, try Nuvola player.
[21:44] <reisio> withnale_: what don't you like about those
[21:44] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: okay, on what hardware?
[21:44] <Guest12707> Evening
[21:45] <Afflicto> gordonjcp: packard bell easynote LE
[21:45] <kurugah_> still need help with my hdmi problem. this is my xrandr output http://pastebin.com/wfXbxb3c
[21:45] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: and the keyboard doesn't work *at all*, when you boot with Ubuntu?
[21:45] <CyberJacob> Anybody know about MAAS?
[21:45] <usercheck_> gordonjcp,  mycomputer-->isp->internet,  is it correct (not directly) ?)
[21:45] <Afflicto> gordonjcp: I was able to get into unity GUI via recovery mode and at that point they did work.
[21:46] <kurugah_> are there any further steps to help me understand why it is not connecting to my monitor?
[21:46] <withnale_> reisio: I don't like how banshee manages playlists syncing to devices, and rhythmbox segfaults when I try to sync right now.
[21:46] <gordonjcp> usercheck_: right, but you've got some sort of broadband router, yes?
[21:46] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: have you got an exact model number?
[21:46] <reisio> withnale_: what don't you like about how it manages playlist syncing?
[21:46] <withnale_> I was trying clementine but that makes it too hard as well.
[21:46] <Afflicto> gordonjcp: Let me see..
[21:47] <ripdisk> can anybody tell me where the grub cofig file is?
[21:47] <Afflicto> gordonjcp: EG70bz
[21:47] <usercheck_> gordonjcp, that you mean "router broadband" in my computer?
[21:47] <withnale_> I want to be able to select from a list of all of my playlists when I sync. Banshee only allows you to sync from one playlist, and you have to do some magic with smart playlists to get more than one on the device
[21:48] <reisio> syncing is kind of silly TBH
[21:48] <withnale_> clementine looked good for a sec, but I'm thinking I might have to end up with songbird.
[21:48] <reisio> get yourself a device that just reads from ordinary storage
[21:48] <gordonjcp> usercheck_: the box that plugs into the phone line
[21:48] <ripdisk> is it /boot/grub/grub.conf
[21:48] <withnale_> I do have a device that reads ordinary storage. I still want to have a nice drag interface to manage it tho
[21:48] <ripdisk> like normal
[21:49] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: doesn't *look* like there's anything particularly out-of-the-ordinary with it, although the terms '17"' and 'notebook' don't quite come together for me ;-)
[21:49] <reisio> ripdisk: find /boot/ -iname 'grub*c*f*'
[21:49] <MikeRL> Anyone here work for Canonical? Or are you all volunteers? Cause to simplify the question further, is anyone even working on vino? Seems to have no bug supervisor.
[21:49] <usercheck_> gordonjcp, no,i don't have that
[21:49] <gordonjcp> usercheck_: well, it doesn't really matter anyway
[21:50] <tannji> kurugah_,  read this, it might point you in the right direction: http://charlesmcruz.wordpress.com/2012/01/22/ubuntu-11-10-automatic-hdmi-toggle-with-audio/
[21:50] <Afflicto> gordonjcp: ok..
[21:50] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: have you tried plugging in an external keyboard?  Did it make a difference?
[21:50] <MikeRL> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vino
[21:50] <kurugah_> tannji ok on it
[21:50] <withnale_> balls.songbird is dead
[21:50] <ripdisk> oh, and
[21:50] <wluijben> Okay, different USB stick this time, 3rd try, here we go.
[21:50] <MikeRL> For Linux. They went evil and made a closed Android app.
[21:51] <wluijben> Maybe I should take pictures somehow.
[21:51] <wluijben> And upload them.
[21:51] <ripdisk> does unbutu use vi  or
[21:51] <Afflicto> gordonjcp: No.. let me try that now. (btw my usb mouse works fine tho)
[21:51] <ripdisk> or gedit
[21:51] <usercheck_> gordonjcp, ok,sir. i will trying to learn it. thx very much ,sir.
[21:51] <wluijben> Where can I know if ubuntu installation goes succesful ?
[21:51] <occ> if it works after you install it
[21:51] <reisio> ^
[21:51] <MikeRL> No errors during the installer.
[21:52] <Afflicto> gordonjcp: Ok external keyboard works fine.
[21:52] <MikeRL> If the installer coughs up errors, you've got a problem.
[21:52] <CyberJacob> I'll take that as a no then :(
[21:52] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: but not the built-in one?
[21:52] <wluijben> Let me hit try ubuntu this time.
[21:52] <Afflicto> gordonjcp: nope. Including the touchpad.
[21:52] <wluijben> Nope, same issue, grey top bar.
[21:52] <WHAT_UP> how do i set the default text editor to something other than leafpad in xubuntu 12.04 lts?
[21:52] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: well now you are at a point where you can use the external mouse and keyboard to investigate the problem
[21:53] <reisio> WHAT_UP: right click in Thunar
[21:53] <reisio> WHAT_UP: just like every other OS
[21:53] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: which version of Ubuntu are you installing?
[21:53] <WHAT_UP> reisio: that doesn't let me set it as the default.
[21:54] <Afflicto> gordonjcp: I initially tried 13.04 64bit but this time I have 12.04 64bit
[21:54] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: aha, have I just read your question on askubuntu?
[21:54] <reisio> WHAT_UP: you could export EDITOR in ~/.bashrc
[21:55] <WHAT_UP> reisio: export EDITOR=gedit doesn't work
[21:55] <reisio> WHAT_UP: you'd probably want it to be a path
[21:55] <usercheck_> gordonjcp, thx
[21:55] <reisio> WHAT_UP: http://askubuntu.com/questions/289686/change-xubuntus-default-text-editor-globally
[21:55] <Afflicto> gordonjcp: hehe most likely :P
[21:55] <tannji> WHAT_UP,  I have found that if I right-click a file and choose "open with" and select the text editor I like, it creats a new file type association
[21:55] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147324
[21:56] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: that person seems to have found a solution, passing a boot parameter
[21:56] <WHAT_UP> reisio: i saw that. they file they say to modify below a certain line does not exist
[21:56] <tannji> that might not help tho
[21:56] <TheUsD> When remote desktop'ing from windows 7 to 12.04 I only get the background of the linux box and the one icon that is on the desktop. Any idea what is causing this?
[21:56] <reisio> WHAT_UP: if you don't want to use leafpad, uninstall it
[21:56] <WHAT_UP> tannji: it lists my first choice as a recommended application, but still opens it with leafpad
[21:56] <Afflicto> gordonjcp: i see! I'm reading it
[21:56] <tannji> WHAT_UP,  ah
[21:56] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: skip to the bottom
[21:57] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: it's not like you're going to spoil the story
[21:57] <WHAT_UP> reisio: that works, but it seems like a bad solution. what if i want to use it some time in the future? it seems weird to require un/re-installing
[21:58] <reisio> WHAT_UP: there's probably a better way, yes
[21:58] <reisio> the package manager does certain magic whenever you install or uninstall things
[21:58] <reisio> I'm afraid I'm not familiar enough with dpkg/etc. to tell you what that magic is
[21:58] <Afflicto> gordonjcp: haha! ok, I see. booting with parameters. how do I do that?
[21:58] <MikeRL> Anyone know the answer? This place is hella busy and my question was so complex that I doubt the answer is easy.
[21:58] <tannji> WHAT_UP,  it doesnt require uninstalling, but the other solution is to edit that line and create ALL associations by hand
[21:59] <reisio> MikeRL: 'how to work around a vino-server bug?'?
[21:59] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: when you boot up, hold down right-shift to get the grub menu, press "e" to edit the command line, and type that parameter at the end
[21:59] <MikeRL> reisio: Ah, yes. Thanks.
[21:59] <MikeRL> Do you need me to repharase it?
[21:59] <wluijben> http://postimg.org/image/ahyk0i2jl/
[21:59] <reisio> MikeRL: to something useful, yes
[21:59] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: I am guessing you have at least two machines there, including the one you can't get to work properly?
[21:59] <MikeRL> Sucky spelling on my part.
[21:59] <wluijben> Can you see the grey top bar in this image?
[21:59] <MikeRL> The issue is the server for vino on both.
[22:00] <MikeRL> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/1196668
[22:00] <Morph4me> WHAT_UP,  instead of right click "open with "  do right click choose "properties" then the  " open with "  tab  -select application to open with on the list or add and set as default  ...change it to what ever you want when you want that way
[22:00] <MikeRL> It messes up and crashes with I believe memory corruption after I change the settings under Desktop Sharing.
[22:00] <wluijben> wilee-nilee: http://postimg.org/image/ahyk0i2jl/ this is enough details?
[22:01] <Afflicto> gordonjcp: yeah. I'm at the command line parameter thing now.
[22:01] <WHAT_UP> Morph4me: there is no "set as defualt" option there
[22:01] <reisio> MikeRL: does it crash or "not work"?
[22:01] <reisio> it can't be both
[22:01] <kurugah_> tannji, cat /sys/class/drm/card0-HDMI-A-1/status outputs disconnected and trying xrandr --output HDMI1 --auto   does nothing
[22:01] <reisio> MikeRL: you could try another server, like tigervnc
[22:01] <MikeRL> Crash shortly after connecting.
[22:01] <MikeRL> Never mind, shortly after starting the server.
[22:02] <MikeRL> Even after a reformat the issue persists. It was a bug in Oneiric and earlier releases and still isn't solved, unfortunately.
[22:02] <reisio> MikeRL: does it crash when you press a key or button?
[22:02] <reisio> yes, I read your bug...
[22:02] <reisio> no need to repeat it all here
[22:03] <tannji> kurugah_,  that link I sent you had the script that guy wrote to fix the issue.  it sounded like his toggle script would solve your hdmi issue
[22:03] <MikeRL> As soon as I open desktop sharing, the server crashes and the icon for Desktop sharing disappears, despite being set to always on.
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> wluijben, I have not followed your posts have you run a update and upgrade and checked additional drivers and if so also posted you graphic card info?
[22:03] <reisio> MikeRL: as soon as you open it, or as soon as you click or press any button?
[22:04] <MikeRL> The server crashing also has been ocurring whenever I want to connect to another Ubuntu PC.
[22:04] <gordonjcp> MikeRL: what are you trying to do with vino?  Remote desktop access isn't really a thing that people do much, on unix-y OSes
[22:04] <reisio> gordonjcp: which is why it's included by default? :p
[22:04] <MikeRL> Shortly after opening it. I'm trying to connect one Ubuntu PC to the other over VNC.
[22:04] <Morph4me> WHAT_UP, must be a 12.04  miss they have it for 13.04 >http://i.imgur.com/k5tMv9m.png
[22:04] <gordonjcp> reisio: it's a weird one, eh
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> wluijben, the prtsc key will give you a clear picture to post in an imagebin.
[22:04] <Foxhoundz> how can I install php 5.5 on ubuntu
[22:04] <Foxhoundz> I don't think it's part of the official repository
[22:04] <reisio> gordonjcp: impossible to say until he starts answering questions
[22:05] <Foxhoundz> hell, I don't even think 5.4 is on ther
[22:05] <Foxhoundz> there
[22:05] <gordonjcp> reisio: ye
[22:05] <reisio> Morph4me: he wants one for all file types
[22:05] <MikeRL> Why I'm doing it? Someone in the family has got their Windows 7 install infected with toolbars and viruses. I'm cleaning it out remotely.
[22:05] <reisio> Morph4me: not each individually
[22:05] <kurugah_> the script is detecting the connection with cat /sys/class/drm/card0-HDMI-A-1/status and uses xrandr to toggle the state i tried that manually
[22:05] <gordonjcp> MikeRL: okay, so don't you need a vino *client* on the Ubuntu machine?
[22:05] <Morph4me> reisio, kk ;)
[22:06] <kurugah_> so i dont think it is going to help me
[22:06] <reisio> WHAT_UP: oh.... dude
[22:06] <Afflicto> gordonjcp: omg IT WORKED! =D
[22:06] <MikeRL> Nope, it's all vino-server issues, which makes the vinagre client disconnect
[22:06] <WHAT_UP> reisio: ?
[22:06] <reisio> WHAT_UP: you might want like, xdg-settings
[22:06] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: okay so now you need to look into modifying your grub config to always have that
[22:06] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: but you can use google and the Ubuntu wiki, right? ;-)
[22:06] <MikeRL> The connection is terminated right after connecting.
[22:07] <tannji> kurugah_,  ah, gotcha...  so the script is setup as executable, but fails to output to hdmi?
[22:07] <Afflicto> gordonjcp: I googled how to add parameters. yes indeed, I think this post mentions that as well, so yeah. thanks alot!
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> wluijben, IF you get questions or anything you do not understand let us know it is no biggie. ;)
[22:07] <kurugah_> yes
[22:07] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: good show.  Hope the web dev stuff goes well for you.
[22:07] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: what sort of web development are you doing?
[22:07] <kurugah_> and i tried to do the stoff manually aswell with no effect
[22:07] <kurugah_> stuff
[22:07] <WHAT_UP> reisio: that looks like it might be it. thanks!
[22:08] <MikeRL> Odd how this bug reappeared. I thought the Gnome people would have run into it and fixed it by now.
[22:08] <ripdisk> man what the HECK dude....it's doing the flickering thing, but for some reason it is completely skipping  grub and just booting up
[22:08] <tannji> I would try some searching at the ubuntu forums then...   it seems to be a common issue
[22:08] <reisio> WHAT_UP: either that or xfconf-query
[22:09] <reisio> WHAT_UP: if those don't do what you want, it's back to the drawing board methinks
[22:09] <ripdisk> what would cause my system to completely skip grub
[22:09] <xangua> ripdisk: is ubuntu the only OS installed¿
[22:09] <MikeRL> tannji: The flicker or the vino issues?
[22:09] <gordonjcp> MikeRL: but if it's a vino-server issue, then presumably that's a server issue with it running on Windows and not really an Ubuntu problem
[22:09] <ripdisk> yes
[22:10] <xangua> ripdisk: just keep Shif pressed when it boots :)
[22:10] <MikeRL> gordonjcp: The other computer is running Ubuntu.
[22:10] <gordonjcp> MikeRL: also, it's vino running on a *compromised system* so all bets are off
[22:10] <MikeRL> They're both running Ubuntu.
[22:10] <gordonjcp> MikeRL: you just said it was running Windows 7
[22:10] <xangua> Shift * ripdisk
[22:10] <tannji> MikeRL,  my bad, was talking to kurugah_
[22:10] <gordonjcp> MikeRL: so if it's running Ubuntu, why do you need vino?
[22:11] <Afflicto> gordonjcp: PHP basically. I like frontend stuff too. working on a CSS & jQuery framework atm :P
[22:11] <MikeRL> Oh, no. The computer I want to connect to runs 7. I've tested VNC on both my Ubuntu installs, ie connecting the laptop to desktop, both running Ubuntu. But it was a massive convenience to connect to the desktop.
[22:11] <MikeRL> vino is the default server.
[22:11] <MikeRL> for vnc.
[22:11] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: well you should be able to pretty much replicate your server on your laptop, which makes testing dead easy
[22:11] <reisio> gordonjcp: :)
[22:11] <kurugah_> tannji, i was on the ubuntu forums all day it is a common problem but there was no solution
[22:11] <kurugah_> :(
[22:12] <ripdisk> xangua that didn't seem to work.
[22:13] <gordonjcp> Afflicto: have you used vagrant?
[22:13] <ripdisk> THERE.
[22:13] <MikeRL> It can connect to a Windows machine fine, but the issue still remains the server for vino crashes on Ubuntu.
[22:13] <MikeRL> Reinstalls, reformats, etc. have not fixed anything.
[22:14] <gordonjcp> MikeRL: well, they wouldn't, would they?
[22:14] <gordonjcp> MikeRL: why would reformatting and reinstalling cause it to work any differently?
[22:14] <ripdisk> ok, I have tried EVERYTHING i can find on google....and no matter what, the live cd works PERFECTLY and yet when i try to boot, it just flickers.
[22:14] <gordonjcp> ripdisk: what flickers?
[22:14] <MikeRL> It's a bug. And I have no clue why it came up and didn't exist for the month a was running vino-server.
[22:15] <ripdisk> my screen
[22:15] <ripdisk> it won't do anything
[22:15] <ripdisk> i can't see anything
[22:15] <tannji> kurugah_,  what I personally would do is wait.  I think some of these issues will  resolve or change to new ones with the next release, xMIR should make our lives really interesting
[22:15] <wluijben> Think I figured out my problem (at least I hope so)
[22:15] <Afflicto> gordonjcp: no but I might have heard of it
[22:15] <wluijben> Was using wrong settings in pen drive installer.
[22:15] <tannji> kurugah_,   have you tried going to bios and shutting off the native screen and forcing hdmi?
[22:15] <MikeRL> gordonjcp: Can you make any sense of the error on my bug report? If not does anyone work with vino and can patch this eventually?
[22:16] <kurugah_> tannji, i dont think there is an option for this but ill check
[22:16] <wluijben> wilee-nilee: How to make screenshot on disfunctional PC!
[22:16] <johntron> does anyone know if there are any debhelper commands to download and configure dependencies? i'm compiling a project that includes a third-party feature, and i need to have debuild download and configure the third-party code
[22:17] <kurugah_> the waiting thing is probably the right way to go, but in the meantime i have to uninstall ubuntu and use another os since i have to use it for presentations
[22:17] <kurugah_> sad...
[22:17] <tannji> kurugah_,  ouch...  feel ya man
[22:17] <MikeRL> gordonjcp: Making any sense? I just want to know what's causing the crash and if anyone will fix it since there's no bug supervisor.
[22:18] <johntron> nvm, i'll just include the code in my source
[22:18] <gordonjcp> MikeRL: I didn't see the url for the bug report, can you post it again?
[22:18] <tannji> kurugah_,   look in bios first....  some laptops have external display options there
[22:18] <kurugah_> ill check now
[22:18] <MikeRL> Sure: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/1196668
[22:19] <kurugah_> after i go to bed ty for your help tannji
[22:19] <tannji> kurugah_, np man...  hope it works out for you
[22:19] <gordonjcp> MikeRL: what happens if you delete the directory containing the vino settings in your homedir?
[22:19] <MikeRL> Where is that?
[22:20] <MikeRL> I've tried deleting any vino folder. But I may have missed somethin.
[22:20] <gordonjcp> it would be in your homedir if it was anywhere
[22:21] <MikeRL> gordonjcp: Vinagre settings, but nada for Vino.
[22:21] <gordonjcp> MikeRL: that looks like a perfectly okay bug report, and contains something that would point me at where to look if I was going to debug it
[22:21] <gordonjcp> MikeRL: so someone who actually knows how vino is supposed to work might well be able to make use of that
[22:21] <econdudeawsome> Anyone know why I cant get mysql to recognize file permissions?
[22:21] <MikeRL> gordonjcp: Do you know if anyone will work on it? There's no bug supervisor.
[22:21] <gordonjcp> MikeRL: no idea, it's not something I can ever see a use for
[22:22] <MikeRL> No use for vino?
[22:23] <MikeRL> Any way I can draw attention to this issue? It is making remote desktop completely unusable.
[22:23] <roger21> hey
[22:23] <MikeRL> gordonjcp: Any way I can draw attention to this issue? It is making remote desktop completely unusable.
[22:23] <roger21> i have this weird bug where the console font is not always the same from boot to boot
[22:24] <gordonjcp> MikeRL: pass it back to the vino developers maybe?
[22:24] <MikeRL> gordonjcp: Can I offer a bounty? I've donated and offered bounties for bugfixes before.
[22:24] <roger21> so i was wondering if there a way to know wich font is in use to compare to console-setup
[22:25] <roger21> or how to set up a font manualy to comapre
[22:25] <MikeRL> gordonjcp: Do you even know where the developers are?
[22:25] <gordonjcp> MikeRL: nope
[22:26] <gordonjcp> MikeRL: I have never used vino and cannot realistically see a use for it
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> MikeRL  i guess the developers do not want to be disturbed for trouble shooting or support
[22:26] <snjesus> 这个频道里可以说中文吗？
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[22:26] <MikeRL> gordonjcp: They have an area to report bugs. Found it thanks to Wikipedia.
[22:27] <econdudeawsome> apparmor is giving mysql issues via enforcement. What are my options?
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> MonkeyDust, Hard to get free work off the couch. ;)
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> roger21, This a standard install in a partition with no tweaks?
[22:31] <roger21> yep
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> roger21, A server?
[22:31] <roger21> kinda (no-x)
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> roger21, How and what did you install (the OS version etc)
[22:32] <roger21> 12.04
[22:32] <MikeRL> gordonjcp: Reported a bug upstream, and I offered a bounty. That should speed things up.
[22:32] <wilee-nilee> roger21, could you define how you are running no X, I'm trying to get all the details.
[22:33] <econdudeawsome> Anyone know why AppArmor is being a pain? Shouldn't adding my file "/path/to/file/* rw" to /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld  give me read write access? This is driving menuts
[22:33] <roger21> what ?
[22:33] <roger21> how do you run no car
[22:33] <roger21> drive*
[22:33] <econdudeawsome> *Path to directory, rather
[22:33] <wilee-nilee> roger21, no X means server or booting a desktop to the console in general.
[22:33] <roger21> and so?
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> roger21, Is this in a sever not in front of you a ssh..etc?
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> srever
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> srever Doh*
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> bad spelling sorry
[22:34] <saiarcot895> *server
[22:34] <MikeRL> gordonjcp: Thanks for your help. I needed some guidance. After messing with this thing for days, my head wasn't clear.
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> !details | roger21
[22:35] <roger21> are you asking if i'm talking about the font of the ssh window i could use?
[22:35] <roger21> no i'm not talking about eh font of the ssh window i could be using
[22:35] <roger21> because this would make no sens
[22:35] <saiarcot895> roger21: by default, Ubuntu desktop launches with X (the GUI)
[22:36] <saiarcot895> roger21: Ubuntu server (from what I understand) doesn't have X
[22:36] <wilee-nilee> roger21, NO I'm trying to understand the whole context, and I realize I am no help to you, we are not communicating, best of luck.
[22:36] <OerHeks> font is set clientside
[22:36] <saiarcot895> roger21: if it's not a server, how are you not getting X?
[22:38] <roger21> i'm talking of the console font
[22:38] <roger21> like the console with a font
[22:38] <roger21> you know, the console
[22:38] <roger21> of the linux
[22:38] <roger21> the linux console
[22:38] <saiarcot895> roger21: the purple background window?
[22:38] <roger21> NOP
[22:38] <roger21> the console
[22:39] <rypervenche> roger21: The green background window?
[22:39] <occ> im trying to use ndiswrapper.. apparently i need a .inf file... but the driver i downloaded has the extension ".ucode" did i download the wrong file?
[22:40] <CyberJacob> Can anybody take a look at my MAAS issue? - http://askubuntu.com/questions/315647/maas-nodes-stuck-on-maas-enlisting-node
[22:40] <ripdisk> I really, really don't get this, and google isn't helping. I can boot from liveCD just FINE but when i try to boot from hdd it just goes to a flickering black screen....
[22:43] <OerHeks> !nomodeset | ripdisk
[22:43] <ripdisk> ight
[22:43]  * ripdisk read
[22:43] <johntron> sweet, i just built, installed, and ran my first .deb :D
[22:44] <OerHeks> !yay
[22:44] <roger21> who run setupcon
[22:44] <Morph4me> man setupcon
[22:45] <johntron> after i finally realized i shouldn't start with trying to build a PPA and that the debhelper scripts are really robust, the rest was easy breezy
[22:45] <ripdisk> OerHeks: it doesn't say where to add those optons though
[22:45] <ripdisk> options
[22:45] <ripdisk> where do I add kernel boot options
[22:45] <roger21> i wonder if it is something about the save option
[22:45] <OerHeks> ripdisk, it does, hold shift @boot to see grub2 menu, press "e" to edit
[22:47] <johntron> ripdisk: fyi - /boot/grub/grub.cfg is used to build new grub menus, so it's a way to see what the current options are without rebooting; however you have to do risky stuff to make changes permanent
[22:48] <ripdisk> so i just like what, add nomodeset to the file
[22:48] <ripdisk> or do i put that in gfxmod\e
[22:49] <OerHeks> ! The main Grub 2 configuration file, normally located in the /boot/grub folder, is grub.cfg. It is the product of various scripts and should not normally be edited directly.
[22:50] <ripdisk> when i add nomodeset it just says that it does't kow what i'm talking about
[22:50] <OerHeks> !grub2
[22:50] <OerHeks> ripdisk, does not apply to you, you need to be in linux to edit that file
[22:51] <johntron> ripdisk: no, changes to grub.cfg get overwritten when you install/update grub
[22:51] <johntron> i believe you need to add or edit something in /etc/grub.d
[22:52] <ald> My friends, is there anyone that wants help me in private chat to solve my problem with 1080 video mov?
[22:52] <ald> thans
[22:52] <ripdisk> i can't just add it when i open grub and press e?
[22:52] <johntron> i would make sure you've got it write before you go editing these files though, becuase if it's not and you `update-grub`, your system will likely be unbootable
[22:52] <youtah> Uhg, I can't find anything, anywhere, stating how long of a string I can store in an environment variable. My Google Foo is weak today. Anyone know?
[22:52] <johntron> yep
[22:52] <ripdisk> yewah ses
[22:52] <ripdisk> ..
[22:52] <ripdisk> yeah see
[22:52] <johntron> but that won't persist if you reboot
[22:52] <ripdisk> yeah i know
[22:53] <FloodBot1> ripdisk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:53] <prag_enig> ald: just ask your question here so that it might benfit everyone instead of a PM
[22:53] <ripdisk> but i added a line that said nomodeset when i went to grub and pressed e
[22:53] <ripdisk> and it said it didn't know what i was talking about
[22:53] <ald> Ok, but before nothing answer, i ho best now
[22:53] <ald> Ok i've xubuntu and a
[22:54] <TauNeutrino> hey ho
[22:54] <ald> pc of 2 years ago no much old but i cannot see video 1080 hd on my palyers, i tried evry pckages, etc, but nothing
[22:54] <TauNeutrino> lol the user list in this channel took the longest to load every
[22:54] <ripdisk> error unknown comand nomodeset
[22:54] <TauNeutrino> ever !
[22:55] <ald> anyone?
[22:55] <reisio> ald: anyone what?
[22:55] <TauNeutrino> his question
[22:55] <ripdisk> wtf
[22:55] <ald> again,
[22:55] <ripdisk> it said command not found, but then booted up?
[22:55] <ripdisk> and it worked...
[22:55] <ald> reisio, do you want, please help me to solve the problem?
[22:55] <hasdf> how are files on a guest account deleted after logging of? just with a rm command or will it be overwritten
[22:56] <reisio> what problem
[22:56] <pragmaticenigma> ald: we need more information.  what graphics card do you have? what do you mean by player? what have you done so far to try to remedy the issue?
[22:56] <reisio> hasdf: I doubt it'll be overwritten
[22:56] <ald> my problem with see video 1080 hd on my 2 years old pc
[22:56] <ald> ops xubuntu
[22:56] <occ> does anyone know how to get wifi working on ubuntu 6?
[22:56] <occ> 6.1
[22:56] <reisio> ald: 1080p is quite large, are you sure your hardware is up to it?
[22:56] <uhelp> Hello Everybody... how do I record line out in 12.04.2?  I expect to be able to do something like redirect line out to out.wav but have no clue the magic things to type.
[22:56] <reisio> occ: six?
[22:57] <occ> yes reisio, its a very old dvd i found
[22:57] <ald> I don't know, how i can verify that?
[22:57] <ald> reisio
[22:57] <reisio> occ: why not use something newer
[22:57] <occ> ubuntu 12 won't install anymore
[22:57] <reisio> ald
[22:57] <TauNeutrino> Ok my question: What are "headers" I hear it all the time, like linux headers, or source code headers or whatever. I have python programming experiance(maybe it's a programming thing)
[22:57] <pragmaticenigma> ald, as we already stated... we need to know more about your machine.  What is the graphics card you are using?
[22:57] <uhelp> It should be something very simple like cat /dev/line-out > out.wav but what is it?
[22:57] <reisio> TauNeutrino: kind of like python modules
[22:57] <occ> ubuntu 12 worked a few hours ago, but then i formatted the drive and it wouldnt install again.... now only ubuntu 6 and xp install
[22:57] <TauNeutrino> ah
[22:57] <reisio> TauNeutrino: ask #friendly-coders
[22:57] <ald> How can i do?
[22:58] <TauNeutrino> oki thx
[22:58] <youtah> Anyone know how much data you can store in an environment variable in Ubuntu?
[22:58] <pragmaticenigma> ald: that would be information supplied by the maker of your computer
[22:58] <reisio> TauNeutrino: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Header_file
[22:58] <pragmaticenigma> youtah: what are you trying to store in an ENV variable?
[22:58] <ald> yeh but maybe with terminal, no?
[22:58] <johntron> reisio: pasting the `linux ...` line from your grub config would help people debug
[22:58] <youtah> a really long string
[22:58] <TauNeutrino> k thx I'll look that up :)
[22:59] <reisio> johntron: I don't have a grub problem
[22:59] <hasdf> ok nevermind. found my answer http://www.bamf.de/DE/Migration/AsylFluechtlinge/Asylverfahren/BeteiligteBehoerden/beteiligte-behoerden-node.html
[22:59] <johntron> reisio: then why are you trying to add nomodeset?
[22:59] <reisio> johntron: I'm not :)
[22:59] <ald> pragmaticenigma
[22:59] <johntron> reisio: haha, sorry, wrong person
[22:59] <reisio> :D
[22:59] <johntron> ripdisk:
[22:59] <johntron> pasting the `linux ...` line from your grub config would help people debug
[22:59] <reisio> johntron: if only you were perfect like me, that would never happen :p
[23:00] <johntron> lol
[23:00]  * reisio goes for eats!
[23:00] <ald> IS there anyone?
[23:00] <uhelp> youtah: this doesn't answer your question but if you wanted you could chain your information as environment_variable_part0001 .... environment_variable_part9999 and combine them at the other end if you have control of the receiving application
[23:00] <pragmaticenigma> !patience |ald
[23:00] <ald> ye i just tried ubotto
[23:01] <pragmaticenigma> ald, ubottu is not a person
[23:01] <ald> But it is very strange because mov file 1080 ican see ttha but bad
[23:01] <youtah> uhelp, thanks! Not a bad idea. I couldn't see anything in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables either.
[23:01] <ald> So i thing maybe it is a problem with pluyg in or anithyng else
[23:02] <ald> OK, pragmaticenigam, answer me, pelase
[23:02] <pragmaticenigma> ald: If you want help, you need to provide all the information you can about your machine to us.  We will not be able to help you until you do.
[23:02] <ald> ye but i don't knoe How i have to do.
[23:03] <luke1> ald:what did you say?
[23:03] <ald> I wanna know if my graphic card can works with mov 1080
[23:03] <ald> but i don't know how i do
[23:03] <ald> to see in terminale this info
[23:04] <pragmaticenigma> ald paste the output of the following to this website http://paste.ubuntu.com/ then give us the link to look at it.  lspci | egrep -i '(vga|dvi)' -
[23:05] <youtah> ald is your graphics card plugged into a PCI slot?
[23:05] <pragmaticenigma> ald, DO NOT PASTE THE OUTPUT IN THE CHAT ROOM!
[23:05] <youtah> ^
[23:05] <ald> ok
[23:05] <ald> yes in the pc tower mini
[23:06] <youtah> pragmaticenigma, I am wondering if it is not an onboard mobo. which in that case, would it still show up using lspci?
[23:07] <pragmaticenigma> youtah: all devices that are attached to the motherboard will be displayed by lspci
[23:07] <youtah> good to know, thanks pragmaticenigma
[23:07] <occ> i installed ubuntu  12 on my laptop a few hours ago and it installed and worked ok...... then i formatted the disk(dont ask why), then i tried to install ubuntu again but it crashed during install.......... so i tried to install other OS's, win.xp installed ok, and ubuntu 6 installed ok..... so i try again now to install ubuntu 12 again but it crashes -at the part i enter my username and password and click on, then it says sel
[23:07] <occ> ect an image, then goes to black screen and gives error "stopping system v runlevel compatibility"
[23:08] <uhelp> youtah: I don't think "ubuntu" has a limit but your shell might and and I wouldn't go over _POSIX_ARG_MAX if the variable is ever used as a command line input.  Call sysconf to determine the value but probably it is 4K
[23:08] <pragmaticenigma> occ: Have you completely powered down the machine? Also, it might help to know why you decided to reinstall
[23:09] <occ> iv rebooted the machine about 20 times
[23:09] <occ> im installing all the OS's via dvds
[23:09] <youtah> Perfect! Thank you uhelp!
[23:09] <pragmaticenigma> occ: I asked if you powered off the machine, not reboot
[23:09] <occ> yeh i meant power off and start up
[23:09] <occ> you mean like take out the battery too?
[23:10] <pragmaticenigma> occ: you could try that too.  when you had it working, did you run any system commands you weren't familiar with?
[23:11] <uhelp> no one here seems to know how to capture line-out ... BUT does someone here know a different channel to try?
[23:11] <occ> i didnt run any commands at all..... i just clicked install on ubuntu installer, and clicked through the process(set location/time and username/pass)
[23:12] <pragmaticenigma> uhelp: what do you mean by "line-out"
[23:13] <ferfer7> how do you activate LXDE
[23:13] <ferfer7> in ubuntu
[23:13] <Ari-Yang> ferfer7, log out of your current ubuntu session
[23:13] <pragmaticenigma> occ: was the reinstall just to try something else? did you let ubuntu 12 load all the way?
[23:13] <ald> pragamticenigma:   PCI (sysfs)
[23:14] <Ari-Yang> then in the login box, click on the Unity symbol ferfer7, from there you can switch between DE (desktop environments).
[23:14] <ald> but i don't realize
[23:14] <uhelp> pragmaticenigma: I mean the audio stream which would be multiplied by the output-volume and sent to the headphone jack
[23:14] <uhelp> pragmaticenigma: so even if volume is all the way down or all the way up line-out is still the same
[23:15] <occ> the first time i installed ubuntu 12, it went all the way, i rebooted and logged in and could use the full OS........... then i was just experimenting with some device partitoining dvd and deleted the partitions on my disk........ i thought i could install ubuntu 12 again but when i tried it crashed
[23:15] <occ> and then win.xp and ubuntu 6 i installed flawlessly..... but then i try ubuntu 12 again and get same crash
[23:16] <pragmaticenigma> occ: That was a vital piece of information, disk partitioning can do a lot of damage if you aren't careful
[23:16] <roger21> terminux32x16=lol
[23:16] <occ> yeh i had no idea what i was doing. was just experimenting lol
[23:16] <occ> so how can i fix my disk?
[23:17] <occ> it seems old OS's install on it, but not the new one(ubuntu 12) anymore
[23:17] <gdogg> Hey guys. I have a folder on my windows7 desktop, set it to share, with everyone having r/w. In ubuntu i had it mounted with my windows credentials using smbfs. does cifs work as well or is that for another kind of sharing protocol not used by windows?
[23:17] <pragmaticenigma> occ: when you install Windows, do you do a disk format and give it access to the entire disk?
[23:17] <gdogg> also i would rather use it anonymously instead of saving the windows credentials on my linux pc
[23:18] <occ> yes i tried to.... but it was a xp recovery cd and was kind of vague... it just said do you want to use c drive and i clicked yes
[23:18] <philwong\> I tried activating LXDE in ubuntu but it would not work... which legacy button?
[23:18] <pragmaticenigma> uhelp: I haven't had much luck with audio setups like that.  I tried to do something similar to get my audio forwarded to another computer and couldn't get anything to work, including Pulse
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> philwong\, Activating?
[23:19] <pragmaticenigma> occ: It should have used the whole disk then
[23:19] <philwong\> wilee-nilee: yes
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> philwong\, YOu login to it from login.
[23:19] <pragmaticenigma> uhelp: Though you might find the settings you desire in Pulse
[23:19] <philwong\> I dont see the option
[23:19] <philwong\> It just says ubuntu
[23:19] <philwong\> and ubuntu2d
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> philwong\, Not in the gear dropdown?
[23:20] <philwong\> no
[23:20] <uhelp> pragmaticenigma: thank you ... I will head off in that direction and see what I dig up
[23:20]  * Darkchaos2 Good Night guys :)
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> philwong\, If you ran in ubuntu sudo apt-get install lxde it should be there
[23:20] <philwong\> ok
[23:22] <philwong\> I will try once more
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> philwong\, What release is this ubuntu2d is not part of ubuntu at some point.
[23:22] <philwong\> 12.04
[23:22] <delinquentme> if I want a file to be able to write out other files which of the 4 numeric permission numbers am I worried about
[23:22] <delinquentme> currently the file if 0644
[23:24] <ald> pramaticenigma  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5838886/
[23:24] <pragmaticenigma> delinquentme: Could you explain better or give an example what you are trying to do
[23:25] <ald> pragmatcenigma i posted just now
[23:25] <delinquentme> pragmaticenigma, I've got a file which I want to modify a output.csv file
[23:25] <ald> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5838886/
[23:26] <occ> ok pragmaticenigma, i am now in ubuntu.12.installer partitioning tool(something else) option...... i see at the top: /dev/sda , then inside/below that: /dev/sda1 ext4 (97883mb) and /dev/sda5 swap (2144mb) . is this what i should be seeing?
[23:26] <ald> Anyone recognise my video card, graphic..  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5838886/  ????
[23:26] <doug_> where does my iphone get mounted when I select open in dolphin when I plug it in?
[23:26] <pragmaticenigma> ald: Your computer is not powerful enough to playback highdefinition video
[23:27] <ald> why, please explain me, shortly
[23:27] <pragmaticenigma> occ: that is normal
[23:27] <ald> But in youtube i see hd video, pragmaticenigma
[23:27] <pragmaticenigma> ald: It just isn't powerful enough to do it.  YouTube automatically adjusts the video playback according to the capabilities of your computer
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> occ, Can you open gparted and hit prtsc and imagebin the screenshot?
[23:28] <ald> Yes, but i decide to see somthing in 1080p hd and i see that is very very good quality, so... pragmaticenigma
[23:28] <occ> do i need to make a boot dvd with gparted on it?
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> occ, gparted is on the live cd
[23:29] <occ> oh wait.... yeh ill try that.... i forgot about live cd
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> occ, You are trying to install 12.04 right?
[23:31] <pragmaticenigma> ald: it's not possible.  even if YouTube is setup to playback 1080p it's not unless your attempting to view the video full screen.  if the video is "windowed" it's playing back at the given resolution the video windows is given to display
[23:31] <uhelp> pragmaticenigma: I think the answer is here: https://code.google.com/p/pulseaudio/source/browse/src/pulsecore/protocol-native.c?r=666261ece8cfa9b5458a1c1358b7ae4b9682b6a5   .....  groan
[23:32] <occ> yeh trying to install 12.04.... im doing the gparted thing now too
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> cool
[23:32] <pragmaticenigma> uhelp: yeah, it's not an easy thing to do
[23:32] <ald> pragmaticenigma i have the prove because if i put 1080 my connection is bad and is difficult sometime see video for may broadband
[23:33] <ald> and i tried also, pragmaticenigma to download taht videos and see
[23:33] <ald> the problem, i thing is format .mov
[23:33] <pragmaticenigma> ald, it has nothing to do with the video.  your computer hardware is not capable of handling the 1080p playback.  there isn't anything more to it
[23:33] <doug_> where does my iphone get mounted when I select open in dolphin when I plug it in?
[23:35] <ald> but 1080 in mpeg4 i see fantastic way, why, pragmaticenigma?
[23:36] <pragmaticenigma> ald: I don't have an answer.  No one here will have an explanation
[23:36] <ald> but, do you recognize that is strange, or not???
[23:37] <occ> wilee-nilee here is the link of my gparted :    www.postimg.org/image/ogk8fw9jx/1e4affb1
[23:37] <ald> pragmaticenigma
[23:37] <pragmaticenigma> ald: no, it's not strange
[23:37] <ald> Wht, 1080 in mp4 fantastic, in mov nothing
[23:37] <ald> What the differece?
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> occ, I don't have an account use this.
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> !magebin
[23:37] <pragmaticenigma> !off-topic | ald
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> occ, ^^^^^^^^^^
[23:38] <occ> ok ill try that
[23:38] <uhelp> doug_: to see where something is mounted type df at the command prompt .... mount it ... then type df again and see which new mount point is present
[23:39] <doug_> uhelp, nothing  shows up for ttthe iphone when i df
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> occ, couple of questions as well, is XP working?
[23:39] <uhelp> doug_: what do you mean by "mounted"?
[23:39] <uhelp> doug_: are you sure it is mounted at all?
[23:40] <doug_> no other than i can see the picture files in dolphin
[23:40] <doug_> uhelp, ^^
[23:40] <occ> ok here is the imagebin link: www.imagebin.org/263259
[23:41] <uhelp> doug_: I do not have an iPhone... but when I "mount" my Android phone I must also select, within my phone, to allow the computer to access its sdcard
[23:41] <occ> yes xp worked, i basically just logged in and looked around for a couple of mins but it definetly worked
[23:41] <occ> and ubuntu.6 worked i could log in and look around and try and get wifi to work but failed. but the os worked yeh
[23:41] <uhelp> doug_: at this point there are some messages related to the mounting of a usb drive I can view with dmesg and the mountpoint shows up with df in /media/xxxxx
[23:41] <guest-EX6yJz> hello,this is the first time for me ,is there somebody can explain to me where i am
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> occ, And this was a install without sata drivers in ide?
[23:42] <Corey> guest-EX6yJz: Welcoe to the internet.
[23:42] <Corey> welcome*\
[23:42] <doug_> I edited the geotag info of the pics in digikam and now i want to copy them back to iphone with new gps info...
[23:42] <pragmaticenigma> !welcome | guest-EX6yJz
[23:42] <uhelp> doug_: if iPhone has some different meaning for the word "mount" I don't understand the meaning but you could copy them back by using some program like scp for iphone
[23:43] <occ> wilee-nilee, i dont know... i have never manually added any drivers.... during every installation process for the OS's, i simply click "install", and "yes replace old os with new os" etc
[23:43] <doug_> uhelp, /me googling scp
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> occ, run this command and pastebin the results as well, still need the gparted as well. dmesg | grep -i ahci
[23:44] <OptimizedCoder> Could the fine folks here recommend an 'easy to configure' VNC server? I'm torn between 'vncserver' and 'tightvncserver'..
[23:45] <guest-EX6yJz> i don't speak english very well, but i want to know where i'am, please
[23:45] <OptimizedCoder> guest-EX6yJz, you're on the IRC channel for ubuntu on freenode
[23:45] <reisio> guest-EX6yJz: you're right here
[23:45] <pragmaticenigma> guest-EX6yJz: what is your native language?
[23:46] <wilee-nilee> earth
[23:46] <reisio> guest-EX6yJz: send this command for me?: /nick exguy
[23:46] <uhelp> guest-EX6yJz: You are probably in France.
[23:46] <occ> wilee-nilee here is the gparted http://imagebin.org/263259 ..... and "dmesg | grep -i ahci" returns nothing
[23:46] <FFF1> i want a wep encrypted broadcasted network so i can play old NDS games that only support WEP. how do I do this?
[23:47] <FFF1> i am using a TP-Link WN722N wireless adapter
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> occ, do you have just one HD?
[23:47] <occ> yes just one in the laptop
[23:47] <guest-EX6yJz> i've got a problem, i dont speak english very well, i speak french
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> occ, YOUr XP has been overwritten by a ubuntu install.
[23:48] <occ> yeh.... but it crashed before it finished installing
[23:48] <pragmaticenigma> !fr | guest-EX6yJz
[23:48] <FFF1> that allows for broadcasting internet connections brought in from another source on the computer.
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> occ, Yeah, so you want the dual boot though right?
[23:48] <occ> no i just want ubuntu, one OS, nothing else
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> occ, cool have you looked in the bios and made sure it was set to ahci not ide, if that HD will run that.
[23:49] <FFF1> windows decided to not support WEP anymore. Can I broadcast with ubuntu instead?
[23:49] <zx> i am trying to install ubuntu-zfs on 13.10 , it gives me an error   Error!  The dkms.conf for this module includes a BUILD_EXCLUSIVE directive which .....
[23:49] <rypervenche> guest-EX6yJz: I can help
[23:49] <occ> no i will look at the bios now....
[23:50] <guest-EX6yJz> yes you can
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> occ, You had ubuntu on there before though right?
[23:50] <pragmaticenigma> !beta | zx
[23:50] <delinquentme> whats with the 0644 in ubuntu .... what does the first 0 represent
[23:50] <zx> i am on 13.10
[23:50] <delinquentme> ?
[23:50] <pragmaticenigma> zx, 13.10 is not supported in here
[23:51] <uhelp> zx: if you are making a file-server I am very happy with nexentastore zfs
[23:51] <occ> yes i had ubuntu 12 installed on the HDD sucesfuly a few hours ago, before i messed around with the disk formatter
[23:51] <pragmaticenigma> !13.10 | zx
[23:51] <Ari-Yang> zx, 13.10 isn't officially released yet, so I guess that's why it isn't supported yet.
[23:51] <zx> i just want to build zfs ko on 13.10 which builds fine on 13.04
[23:52] <pragmaticenigma> zx, your running a beta version of ubuntu, many things will not work
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> occ, Cool so close everything but gparted and we will delete all the partitions to start with, you will have to turn off the swap to do this.
[23:52] <Ari-Yang> if I'm using a mainline kernel, would I still get updates from ubuntu's repo of kernel 3.5? (I'm on 12.10)
[23:53] <occ> i cant see any options in bios to do with ahci or ide
[23:53] <occ> ok let me reboot
[23:53] <FFF1> I want to go modem->computer-> usb -> TP-WN722N -> airwaves -> Nintendo DS -> play pokemon HeartGold / etc Online. can anyone help me?
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> occ, Are you on the 12.04 live cd?
[23:54] <occ> i was just in bios.... loading up live cd again now
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> occ, okay, just open gparted and rightclick the swap and turn it off.
[23:54] <occ> ok i am on the live cd now.....ok will do
[23:55] <guest-EX6yJz> there is somedy whose can help me in french ,please
[23:55] <rypervenche> guest-EX6yJz: Go to #ubuntu-fr
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> occ, Then delete sda1 and sda5 first.
[23:55] <pragmaticenigma> french support is available in #ubuntu-fr
[23:55] <rypervenche> guest-EX6yJz: Tape /join #ubuntu-fr
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> !fr | guest-EX6yJz
[23:58] <zx> is there a way to override dkms.conf using apt-get ?
[23:58] <FFF1> am I being impatient or am I being ignored? or what?
[23:58] <reisio> FFF1: hi
[23:58] <FFF1> hello
[23:58] <reisio> FFF1: need something?
[23:58] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | FFF1
[23:59] <occ> wilee-nilee ok i have turned swap off and deleted sda1 and sda5
[23:59] <reisio> FFF1: see, pragmaticenigma cared enough to spam the whole channel :)
[23:59] <FFF1> XD
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> occ, You know about the green check to run those actions right?