shadeslayeryofel:   [ Philip Muškovac ]00:19
shadeslayer  * Bump build-dep on python-sip-dev to >= 4.1400:19
shadeslayerin pykde400:19
shadeslayeryofel: do you remember why?00:19
ScottKIt would have been to prevent archive skew.00:20
shadeslayerso, can be dropped?00:20
ScottKYes.  We should be the same as Debian.00:20
shadeslayerbecause pykde4 for quantal is FTBFS'ing00:20
ScottKI'm wrong.00:22
ScottKif(SIP_VERSION STRLESS "040e00")    # These version numbers also appear in ../CMakeLists.txt00:22
ScottK    message(FATAL_ERROR "The version of SIP found is too old. 4.14 or later is needed.")00:22
shadeslayerdrat :/00:22
ScottKSo that's something you need to keep.00:22
shadeslayertoo late, I uploaded for quantal00:22
shadeslayerbut it'll still fail obviously00:22
shadeslayerthat's fine, it's in staging00:23
shadeslayerbackport python-sip-dev?00:23
shadeslayerI wonder how much trouble that'll cause00:23
* shadeslayer backports from raring00:25
shadeslayeroh hurray00:26
shadeslayer pykde4_4.10.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10~ppa1_source.changes rejected00:26
shadeslayerno harm done :)00:26
ScottKYou'll need python-qt4 too then.00:26
ScottKif(PYQT4_VERSION STRLESS "040905")  # These version numbers also appear in ../CMakeLists.txt00:26
ScottK    message(FATAL_ERROR "The version of PyQt found is too old. 4.9 or later is required.")00:26
ScottKDon't recall what's there, but you generally want sip4 and python-qt4 paired with what upstream released together.00:27
shadeslayerI see00:28
shadeslayerI've backported the official raring packages00:28
shadeslayershould be enough00:28
shadeslayerhttp://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.10.90_quantal.html < mostly sorted out :)00:31
shadeslayerhm, everything should auto resolve00:38
shadeslayerwill test later today then00:38
manchickenI am on vacation.03:44
manchickenAnybody home?04:16
ScottKmanchicken: No.05:23
manchickenScottK: lies!05:26
manchickenI need something to do.05:26
manchickenDo people use kdevelop?05:26
ScottKSome do.05:26
manchickenWhat about Qt Develop? It looks like that's shooting at Xcode or Android Studio, seems like it's mainly pointed at Ubuntu Touch and qml.05:29
ScottKThe Ubuntu Touch stuff is (as you might guess) an Ubuntu only plugin that's added.05:33
ScottKIt is mostly aimed at Qt/QML.05:33
apacheloggerno JT :(05:34
apacheloggersomeone do something to bug 1183615 plz :(05:34
ubottubug 1183615 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "package kdelibs5-plugins (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: não pode copiar dados extráidos para './usr/lib/kde4/libexec/ksendbugmail' para '/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/ksendbugmail.dpkg-new': fim de ficheiro ou stream inesperado" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118361505:34
ScottKapachelogger: But you have a willing coder awaiting enlightement.05:34
apacheloggerand that at 7:3505:35
ScottKmanchicken is looking for work to do.05:35
apacheloggermanchicken: https://trello.com/c/8T4OXfLX could be something05:37
apacheloggeressentially bzr clone lp:kubuntu-debug-installer05:37
apacheloggerright now it tries to find debug packages using the already active repositories, what we need it to do is allow us to add repositories on-the-fly05:39
apacheloggere.g. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Debug_Symbol_Packages05:39
ScottKBonus points for detecting if XMir and declining to file kwin bugs if it is.05:39
apacheloggerTLDR: most debug packages are autogenerated and put in a separate package repository, so to get access that other repoistory needs to be added to apt05:40
apacheloggerScottK: I think that is another card TBH05:40
ScottKBut we can't add it by default because if everyone enabled that repository, it would get crushed.05:41
apachelogger^ that05:41
apacheloggerso I was thinking ... debug-installer gets started -> tries to find debug packages for files -> fails -> adds the ddebs repository -> updates apt cache -> tries to find debug packages -> failure/success, regardless it removes the repository again -> updates cache05:42
apacheloggerbut I guess you could just play around with it a bit see where the code takes you 05:43
apacheloggerScottK: trello says we should discuss the MRE list on kubuntu-devel btw05:45
* manchicken looks...05:55
apachelogger!info user-manager saucy06:00
ubottuuser-manager (source: user-manager): user management tool for the Plasma workspace. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.0~git20130223-0ubuntu2 (saucy), package size 41 kB, installed size 203 kB06:00
apacheloggerafiestas_: didn't you do a release?06:01
manchickenapachelogger: So we're trying to modify the crash handler so that it will install dbgsym packages in the absence of dbg packages?06:02
apacheloggerTBH it probably should just always use dbgsym06:02
manchickendbgsym is just the debug symbols for the existing binaries?06:03
manchickenDoes it replace the binaries with ones using -g flags?06:03
apacheloggernope, essentially it's the debug symbols of the binaries06:04
manchickenIs that a supplemental file, similar to a dSYM file on OS X?06:05
ScottKapachelogger: A new change though is that if a -dbg package exists, the -dbgsym is and empty dependency package that depends on the -dbg.06:05
manchickenI've never done debug symbols on GNU/Linux without it being compiled in.06:05
ScottKNo point in going to the -dbgsym if the -dbg is available.06:05
apacheloggerso the binaries are built with -g by default and then some packaging tool strips all debug symbols into a shadow binary (i.e. instead of one binary you have two, one with the functional code and one with the debug code). gdb can then put those files back together and allow debugging of a binary that technically has no debug symbols06:06
apacheloggermanchicken: dsym sounds similar enough06:06
manchickenapachelogger: Okay, that makes sense.06:06
apacheloggerScottK: actually even more so06:06
manchickenBut that actualy doesn't matter for this project, right? We're just dealing with package installs.06:06
apacheloggerif dbgsym is just a dep on dbg it makes even more sense to only go for dbgsym06:06
ScottKYes, just package installs.06:07
apacheloggerthat way you have consistent handling and the package relationship will take care of -dbg packages06:07
apacheloggerso we install only -dbgsym but indeed -dbg gets in as well06:07
apacheloggermanchicken: pretty much06:07
manchickenLet me look at this existing package. I think step 1 is figuring out what we already have.06:07
apacheloggeryeah, bzr clone lp:kubuntu-debug-installer06:08
apacheloggerit's a really simple program ... it gets a list of files that could not be traced (i.e. no debug symbols present) and it uses qapt to find the packages containing those files, then it tries to find the -dbg/-dbgsym package associated06:09
apacheloggermanchicken: general code refactoring is also very welcome, that was just quickly hacked together and since part refactored once or twice ^^06:09
manchickenapachelogger: While it's loading (slow internet), is this C++, Ruby, Python, other?06:11
apacheloggermanchicken: c++06:11
apacheloggerbug 10337806:12
ubottubug 103378 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "impossible mount floppy device in /media" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10337806:12
manchickenI'm getting a permission error.06:12
apacheloggerMount Wars 2: The Floppy Strikes Back06:12
manchickenEvidently it's attempting to send my SSH key and then rejecting it.06:13
apacheloggermanchicken: launchpad.net06:14
apacheloggercheck that the right public key is available there06:14
apacheloggerand that the right key is used on your end I guess06:14
manchickenI'm gonna need to generate a new one I think, I doubt that I still have the old one lying around...06:14
manchickenI'll check my old FSF thumb drive, that's probably where I would have put it :)06:14
ScottKAlso make sure the username is right.06:16
ScottKHost bazaar.launchpad.net06:17
ScottK  User $USERNAME06:17
ScottKin ~/.ssh/config06:17
ScottKIf your LP username and your local username aren't the same.06:18
manchickenMaking a new key it is!06:29
manchickenMy FSF thumb drive is corrupt :)06:30
manchickenGlad I only stored keys on it.06:30
manchickenI'm in business!06:34
manchickenI think06:34
manchickenThat said, this DL is going to interrupt The Doctor.06:35
apacheloggerNO, NOT THE DOCTOR :O06:36
manchickenYeah, I just started the new one. S1E1.06:36
manchickenI know I'm behind the times... but there are only so many geek-culture references I can miss before I can stop ignoring things.06:37
apacheloggershadeslayer, Riddell: https://trello.com/c/DplmVapI that does nto seem complete at all........................06:37
apacheloggermanchicken: ^^06:38
manchickenapachelogger: I don't understand what you mean by "^^"06:38
ScottKmanchicken: I'm probably a close to two decades older than you and I watched the Doctor in college.06:38
ScottKHow can you have missed that one?06:38
manchickenScottK: I am 31... and three children old.06:39
ScottKRight, so 1 year short of two decades older and three also.06:39
* valorie started on season one as well, but I'm halfway through06:41
valoriethe Beeb has done a nice job on cleaning up those old tapes06:41
manchickenYou're a brave man, trusting anything to urbandictionary.com.06:42
manchickenI wasn't sure if you were doing the ^_^ thing, or if you were trying to point up.06:42
ScottKNot brave.  apachelogger's the right kind of insane for urbandictionary.06:43
apacheloggermanchicken: pointing up is ↑06:44
apacheloggercompose key magic06:44
manchickenOh, cmake... I forgot about cmake.06:44
manchickenI like the compose key.06:45
apacheloggertoday in apachelogger's package wonderland: flooding launchpad with projects to import git repos06:45
manchickenI still pretend like I speak a little french, it's useful for that.06:45
apacheloggeroh la la06:46
manchickenOais :)06:46
manchickenPlease note: I only pretend to speak a little French, never said I could type.06:47
apacheloggeryofel_, Riddell: it would appear we lost the kwallet kde-runtime patches06:48
manchickenI've got a buddy who is the language chair of Illinois Wesleyan University. He's helping me improve my language skills. The goal is to get work to transfer me to Montreal or Paris for a year.06:49
apacheloggerparis ftw?06:51
apacheloggerwell, unless one is into maple syrup I guess06:52
manchickenI'm actually not picky.06:52
valorieMontreal is beautiful though06:52
manchickenI want to go somewhere to actually use my French, not terribly picky where.06:52
valoriemy friend from Paris tells me that the french is not much like what is spoken in France06:53
manchickenMontreal would be preferred since it's within driving distance, however.06:53
apacheloggerand Paris is not? :O06:53
apacheloggerah well, I guess Paris is beautiful in a different way ^^06:53
valoriemore like what was spoken a few hundred years ago06:53
valorieyes, Paris is amazingly beautiful06:53
manchickenYeah, my buddy says that Québecois french is much more antiquated than French french.06:53
soeegood morning06:53
manchickenLMFAO, garbage can eats a dude... obligatory burp...06:58
manchickenIt's been a while since I've seen C++07:01
manchickenOutside of that stuff we have at work, where we use C++ as nothing more than OO around our C.07:01
apacheloggermanchicken: their french hasn't received updates for quite a while I guess07:03
apacheloggerimagine the security problems07:03
apachelogger_quassel is only lagging a bit07:03
manchickenapachelogger: Indeed! They're a commonwealth afterall.07:12
manchickenThey need a hotkey to flip between workspaces like you can Alt-Tab07:14
apachelogger_manchicken: meta+tab?07:16
apachelogger_depending on what you mean by workspace07:16
manchickenapachelogger: Only rotates through them. Doesn't start with the most recently active one like alt+tab does.07:17
apachelogger_ah yeah, that doesn't exist07:20
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manchickenIt should. I use workspaces a lot.07:26
apacheloggermanchicken: file a wish bug on bugs.kde.org I guess07:31
manchickenapachelogger: Well, since it's a feature I would use, it's a clear omission which warrants the highest priority.07:33
apacheloggerI agree.07:38
apacheloggerdoesn't change the process though :P07:38
manchickenAlso a problem.07:41
manchickenI am loving Dr Who.07:41
manchickenHow did I live this long without this cheesy and amazing sci-fi?07:41
valoriemanchicken: it was all leading up to this day07:43
manchickengrumble... why won't this thing build?07:52
manchickenCMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:10 (kde4_add_executable):07:52
manchickenI know I'm missing something obvious... I just don't know what.07:52
apacheloggersudo apt-get install install kdelibs5-dev?07:55
apacheloggermeh, GL issues in virtualbox -.-07:55
manchickenNaw, that didn't work07:56
yofel_soee: please do NOT backport pykde07:58
apacheloggermanchicken: paste complete output please07:58
yofel_tab fail08:03
yofel_sry soee08:03
apacheloggeryofel_: hello08:03
yofel_shadeslayer: please don't backport pykde4 to << raring unless you want to backport the whole SIP stack with rebuilds and want to do the python << 3.3 porting08:04
soeeyofel_, np08:04
apacheloggeryofel_: btw, fwiw, considering we have native packages I'd not put the packaging revision as the actual package revision as that will block uploads if the packaging changed but not the source08:04
apacheloggere.g. https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/+recipe/project-neon5-attica08:04
smartboyhwyofel_, I still can't get dh_strip working, it just wasn't even executed during build.08:05
yofel_apachelogger: er, what?08:05
yofel_we intentionally have revno:packaging in there so you can upload a new package with new packaging08:06
apacheloggerthat won't work if it is -revno08:06
apacheloggerneeds to be +revno-008:06
yofel_the packaging is never part of the program source08:06
tsdgeosRiddell: is there no debug package for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so.4.8.4 ? I installed libqt4-dbg but still don't get line numbers08:07
apacheloggerit's le native08:07
apacheloggernative packages have no revision08:07
smartboyhwyofel_, what do you think will make it work?08:07
apacheloggerotherwise they are not really native are they08:07
apacheloggerand also packaging is always part of the prgram source for native08:07
apacheloggerbecause, well, they are native08:07
yofel_project-neon5-attica_0.0+git20130703+r417~8f3b796-16~saucy1.tar.xz already exists in Project Neon KDE Frameworks 508:07
yofel_that's the damn same packaging revno08:07
apacheloggerdoesn't change the fact that the revision is wrong08:08
yofel_with native packaging the -XXX part is relevant too08:08
apacheloggerrelevantly wrong08:08
manchickenapachelogger: Any idea?08:08
yofel_you uploaded  project-neon5-attica - 0.0+git20130703+r417~8f3b796-16~saucy108:08
apacheloggerI am not arguing attica08:08
yofel_now you tried uploading the damn same thing twice08:08
apacheloggerI am arguing the version being shit08:08
yofel_it's not08:08
yofel_you can't just rebuild unchanged things08:08
smartboyhw!language | apachelogger 08:09
ubottuapachelogger: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.08:09
yofel_if you change something please bump the version08:09
yofel_in all uploads I see revno:packaging is 16, so what changed?08:09
apacheloggerubottu: SFU will you08:09
ubottuapachelogger: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:09
yofel_what you just did is the completely wrong thing to do08:10
apacheloggeryofel_: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version08:11
apacheloggersee debian_revision08:11
yofel_apachelogger: just to note: in native packaging, the "-foo" part is not ignored but part of the source version itself08:11
yofel_look at the tar filename08:12
yofel_you just never committed something 08:12
apacheloggerit is still wrong08:12
apacheloggerI forgot to push the branchy08:12
yofel_so nothing changed08:12
apacheloggerit is still wrong08:12
yofel_no it's not08:12
yofel_it's packaging, so it should be - to represent that08:12
apacheloggerIt is optional; if it isn't present then the upstream_version may not contain a hyphen. This format represents the case where a piece of software was written specifically to be a Debian package, where the Debian package source must always be identical to the pristine source and therefore no revision indication is required.08:12
apachelogger"where the Debian package source must always be identical to the pristine source"08:13
yofel_what's a pristine source?08:14
yofel_the upstream source?08:14
yofel_the debian/ folder is not part of the upstream source08:14
apacheloggerthe unaltered source08:14
apacheloggerif it were upsteram source it would say upsteram not pristine :P08:15
yofel_well, for native packages that doesn't exist. We only do - to represent that we add the debian/ package later08:15
apacheloggersure it does08:15
apacheloggernative package == pristine source08:15
apacheloggernon-native package .orig.tar.* == pristine source08:15
manchickenapachelogger: libapt is what I was missing.08:16
yofel_look, I'm trying to represent something that doesn't match the debian package workflow in a sane way08:16
apacheloggermanchicken: oh that makes sense, I guess we are not checking properly for it08:16
apacheloggeryofel_: sure it does08:16
apacheloggerit's a native package08:16
yofel_apachelogger: I'm calculating not from a source package POV but from a recipe POW08:17
smartboyhw!calm | apachelogger yofel_ 08:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about calm08:17
apacheloggersmartboyhw: dude08:17
yofel_for all I care make it +neon{revno:packaging}08:17
yofel_that would be fine a swell08:17
manchickenI also learned about .kdev_include_paths.08:18
apacheloggerno one knows what that does08:18
yofel_manchicken: as that debug installer thing is kde, maybe ask JT when you see him how you can use QApt08:18
yofel_apachelogger: version string is now "0.0+git{date}+r{revno}~{git-commit}+neon{revno:packaging}", good?08:19
manchickenI'm not entirely unfamiliar with QApt... I still have fond memories of it in Adept.08:23
manchickens/fond memories/horrible nightmares/08:23
kubotumanchicken meant: "I'm not entirely unfamiliar with QApt... I still have horrible nightmares of it in Adept."08:23
manchickenI suspect/hope it has changed since 2008 though.08:23
apacheloggermanchicken: not the same QApt08:23
apacheloggerin fact not related at all08:23
manchickenNot worse, right?08:24
apacheloggerno? :P08:24
manchickenThere's the confidence I needed, right there :)08:24
manchickenWhat's the usage for kubuntu-debug-installer? kubuntu-debug-installer `which kdesudo`08:25
yofel_it's usually called from inside Dr. Konqi from the 'Install debugging symbols' button in the backtrace view08:26
yofel_not sure how that's done08:26
manchickenIt looks like it takes a program, or maybe a debug package.08:27
apacheloggerlist of file paths08:28
apacheloggerkdesudo may be a bad example though ^^08:28
manchickenYeah, it finds a package for a file, then it tries to guess the debug package.08:29
apacheloggermanchicken: for real examples you could just start konqueror and kill -s ill `pidof konqueror`08:29
apacheloggerthat should bring up drkonqi08:29
manchickenI think I found it.08:29
manchickenkdesudo kubuntu-debug-installer `which kate`08:29
manchickenapachelogger: This is your work, yeah?08:30
apacheloggerin cooperation with JontheEchidna, yeah08:31
apacheloggermanchicken: no kdesudo needed btw08:32
manchickenapachelogger: It's rather nice for what you described as a quick and dirty. Nice and simple. Not too noisy.08:32
manchickenWhat do we need to do with this now then?08:33
manchickenIt seems like dbgsym packages are already included.08:33
apacheloggermanchicken: see the wiki page08:33
smartboyhwyofel_, still here?08:33
apacheloggermanchicken: you need to add an entire repository08:33
yofel_yes, but gone now. sorry08:33
manchickenOooh, so we need the ability to have this thing add a repo before doing its deed?08:33
smartboyhwyofel_, :(08:34
apacheloggermanchicken: what it does right now is simply take dbgsym into account, but to make use of that the user has to manually add the repo08:34
* smartboyhw really needs someone on advice of why the hell dh_strip isn't run.08:34
manchickenWait a minute... Did you just RTFM me?08:34
apacheloggermanchicken: yeah... simply put echo "repourl" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/foo && apt-get update && finddbgsympackages && if (found) install && rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/foo && apt-get update08:35
apacheloggeri.e. add the repo (unless it is present already <- fun part), update cache, do guessing, possibly install stuff, revert changes (drop repo and update cache again)08:36
manchickenapachelogger: That doesn't sound all that tricky, actually.08:40
manchickenSo we don't want to keep the repo in the list even if we install a package?08:40
manchickenWhat about CVEs?08:40
apacheloggerhow do CVEs play into it?08:41
apacheloggerand I'd imagine that once that is working we may want a checkbox somewhere to allow permanent use of the repo08:42
apacheloggerthe problem is ... the repo pretty much doubles the time apt-get update takes, so it's not something we'd want to introduce if someone files a crahs report once an installation lifetime08:42
manchickenWhat if there's some update to the package, we have debug symbols installed, but now they're out of date.08:43
apacheloggerOTOH if someone is a tester of pre-release software it's something they'd probably want to keep 08:43
apacheloggermanchicken: the package gets thrown out08:43
manchickenGood point.08:43
apachelogger(in theory - that requires verification actually)08:43
manchickenWell, either it'd get thrown out or the user would hold it in conflict preventing an update, right?08:44
apacheloggerusually though since the packages are not pulled in by relationships with another package they have a weak dep chain and would get removed to satisfy the upgrade request08:44
apacheloggermanchicken: yes08:44
manchickenThen what you said sounds pretty reasonable.08:44
manchickenAnd then when it's done, have some dialog that says "we had to add a repository in order to get the debug symbols, would you like to keep it or trash it?" and then do what they say.08:45
apacheloggerif it doesn't work we can probably do some apt magic to lower the package score or something08:45
apacheloggersuch that they would get removed regardless08:45
apacheloggermanchicken: yeah, something like that08:45
manchickenOkay, cool.08:45
manchickenI'm gonna go to bed now, I've got almost 0400 on the clock. The boys aren't going to let me sleep all day :)08:46
apacheloggermanchicken: hehe, good night08:46
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yofelsmartboyhw: re08:47
manchickenI'll start playing with this tomorrow after I finish my SQL Server trigger for a client.08:47
smartboyhwyofel, hello. I still can't get dh_strip working and as you did said, it doesn't even seem to be run.08:47
yofelsmartboyhw: can you plese run debian/rules clean, tar everything up and upload it to my server? I need to try this myself08:48
smartboyhwyofel, I forgotten how to get to it...08:48
yofelubuntu@yofel.dyndns.org, ssh port 222408:49
smartboyhwyofel, just pick https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/ppa/+files/libkgapi_2.0.1-0ubuntu1.dsc instead09:04
* smartboyhw watches yofel through ssh:P09:05
yofelwrong syntax...09:05
yofelmakefiles required tabs, not spaces09:06
yofelsmartboyhw: http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html#Rule-Syntax09:07
yofelsmartboyhw: now it worked ;)09:08
smartboyhwyofel, sorry:)09:08
* smartboyhw hates tabbing BTW09:08
yofeleveryone does, just gnu make likes it -.-09:08
smartboyhwyofel, -.-09:08
smartboyhwI think I haven't done the copyright info though....09:08
tsimpsonwhen writing makefiles is the only time my tab key actually creates a tab character09:08
yofelyeah, I esp. have a behaviour override for makefiles in vim09:09
* apachelogger blinks09:11
smartboyhwyofel, copyright done.09:11
smartboyhwWell, all files belong to him it seems:p09:12
apacheloggeryofel: https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/+recipe/project-neon5-dbusmenu-qt suggestions?09:13
smartboyhwyofel, review + upload?09:13
smartboyhwWell, that's all GPL-2+09:13
smartboyhwAlright, there are some differences it seems09:14
smartboyhwyofel, the tests it seems09:15
yofelnot only tests09:15
yofelJan is missing in general09:15
yofelplease add then I'll continue09:15
* smartboyhw cheats and adds Jan to * only:P09:15
smartboyhwyofel, done?09:17
yofelsmartboyhw: add yourself to the packaging copyright ;)09:17
smartboyhwyofel, ...09:18
smartboyhwFor all the packages I've worked, this is the first time I'm asked to add my own name into debian/* :P09:18
smartboyhwyofel, yeah, so many files without copyright:P09:19
yofelyeah, but that's fine from what I see09:20
yofelso add yourself and we're done09:20
yofelI think09:20
yofelsmartboyhw: ok, let me do one last thing09:23
smartboyhwyofel, alright.09:23
* smartboyhw waits for the grand finale:P09:24
smartboyhwWhat's eatmydata!?!?!09:25
yofelmakes fsync() and sync() a noop when used. Speeds up disk writes that don't need to be safe09:26
yofelthis is an SSD though so the effect isn't as great as it is with a HDD09:27
smartboyhwyofel, meh, SSD, boo:P09:27
* smartboyhw likes pbuilder-dist BTW09:28
yofeldidn't meet my needs09:28
yofelhave fun reading my pbuilderrc :P09:28
yofelback when I tried it, it did not. Maybe it would today, dunno09:30
smartboyhwyofel, wait, you got tanglu things:P09:30
yofelsmartboyhw: uhm... libkgapi2-2.install has development files09:35
yofelplease move to -dev09:35
smartboyhwyofel, which?09:35
yofeluh, for example usr/include/* ?09:36
yofelsee libkgapi1.install and libkgapi-dev.install09:36
yofelfor 1, those are both correct09:36
yofelsmartboyhw: wait, you haven't written that file yet, right?09:39
yofel(you need a better editor...)09:39
smartboyhwyofel, ?09:39
* smartboyhw likes nano, sorry.09:39
yofelwell, go ahead then09:40
yofelsmartboyhw: I'm off for lunch, will look at it later09:41
smartboyhwyofel, done.09:45
* smartboyhw likes asterisks!09:45
QuintasanDebian does not like wildcards for some reason09:47
apacheloggerFTW when an upstream source contains a debian/ simply nest the source into src/ and the packaging into debian/ then set --sourcedirectory on dh and all will be awesom09:53
apacheloggeralso you may need a stub branch to use as main branch09:53
=== fabo is now known as fabo_away
smartboyhwGuys, LOL http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/log/2013-07-03/201307031372841499648.html10:07
lordievaderGood afternoon.10:08
* smartboyhw made a fool of himself there, yes!10:10
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1197317] After KDE update in Saucy, PowerDevil does not suspend the system @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1197317 (by Wladimir Mutel)10:15
* smartboyhw wonders should he get a KDE developer account so he can upload patches of packages whenever he wanted (not a really great idea, right?:P)10:45
apacheloggeryou cannot upload patches whenever you wnat10:46
apacheloggernot all patches anyway10:46
RiddellI think they'd want a better reason than that10:48
apacheloggerthey just want someone supporting the request :P10:50
smartboyhwapachelogger, Supporting Evidence *10:50
smartboyhwPlease provide links to mailing list postings, review requests or other publicly accessible material which indicates your involvement with the KDE Community. 10:50
smartboyhwSure, I will be dead.10:50
tsdgeosRiddell: when running the distro qt i get lots of valgrind warnings in qgtkstyle but if i apt-get source the package and compile it myself i don't, any idea why that may happen? could a rebuild automagically fix it?11:09
Riddelltsdgeos: if you apt-get qt4-x11 ?11:10
tsdgeosdon't really understand the question :D11:11
Riddellqt4-x11 was last compiled in saucy a month ago, I guess something might have happened since then to upset valgrind11:13
Riddellgtk+3.0 was uploaded more recently11:14
tsdgeosit's complaining about strdups and whatnots11:14
tsdgeosin the gtk handling11:14
tsdgeosand then on my compile all is nice11:14
Riddelltsdgeos: want me to just throw up qt to saucy again to see if it helps?11:14
tsdgeosand i'm seeting lots of graphical corruption too11:15
tsdgeosRiddell: if it's not much work11:15
BluesKajHey all11:36
apacheloggerweeeh, new keyboard11:39
tester56hi!, yet another bug I ran into recently in kde 4.11: sometimes the window content of all windows is blanked when applying settings: for example  open task switcher dialog change a setting, cklick apply and all your windows will be blank11:40
apacheloggerI recommend filing a bug at bugs.kde.org11:41
shadeslayeryofel: erk11:47
shadeslayeryofel: no 4.11 for Quantal / Precise then11:47
jdrabhi guys are there any plans to include "firefox addon for kwallet" ? maybe as a dependency for kubuntu-firefox-installer?11:47
tester56shadesplayer: i am on saucy 11:48
smartboyhwtester56, hey, sessionk is now in Neon11:48
tester56nice :D11:48
Riddellsmartboyhw: simon uploaded!11:49
smartboyhwRiddell, thank you!11:49
Riddellapachelogger: aren't the kwallet patches upstream?11:49
Tm_Tfinally I got some china-made recharger for the ibook11:49
smartboyhwRiddell, you did fix what shadeslayer gave you?11:49
tester56is anybody in the mood to test if they can reproduce this ? then I'll file a bug 11:49
Riddellsmartboyhw: I took what you gave me and fixed it11:49
smartboyhwRiddell, great:)11:49
smartboyhwOh, yofel's back11:50
yofelshadeslayer: right, they'll have to live with pykde 4.9 as far as I see :/11:50
Riddelljdrab: much of the firefox integration stuff had to be removed and can now only be found in the blue-shell PPA11:50
Riddelltester56: what needs tested?11:50
smartboyhwyofel, how did the new .install files go?11:50
smartboyhwah, you're test-building11:51
yofelneed fixing, which is what I'm doing now11:51
jdrabRiddell: well that's sad :[ ty 11:51
smartboyhwyofel, OK11:51
shadeslayeryofel: didn't think of this before I started -.-11:51
shadeslayeryofel: and 4.9 was enough for KDE 4.10?11:52
shadeslayer*pykde4 4.911:52
yofelwell, it worked11:52
tester56Riddell: If for e.g. changing a setting in Task Switcher and applying produces alle windows going blank / black11:52
smartboyhwyofel, why it shows so.2.0.2? -.-11:52
yofelshadeslayer: you should've checked what packages were removed before just copying the release package list for the backports11:52
* smartboyhw never got THAT error during build11:52
smartboyhwyofel, dh_install: libkgapi2-2 missing files (usr/lib/*/libkgapi2.so.2.0.2), aborting11:53
Riddelltester56: I changed from cover switch to flip switch, clicked apply, all works good11:53
shadeslayeryofel: true11:53
Riddelltester56: I would guess it's graphics card specific?11:53
shadeslayerNo KDE 4.11 for Quantal/Precise then11:53
Riddellshadeslayer: quantal in staging PPA says /topic11:54
yofelpykde you mean11:54
shadeslayeryofel: but then alot of things depend on pykde4 4.10?11:55
shadeslayerlike kate I think11:55
yofelthey do depend on pykde, but do they need 4.10?11:55
tester56Riddell: I'll figure out later11:57
tester56I am on nvidia-319 proprietary driver11:57
Riddelltester56: mm I'm on Intel, I suspect that might be significant11:58
tester56i'll try nouveau driver later 11:59
yofelwould need to check, I'm on nvidia-319 too but didn't notice any grave rendering issues11:59
yofel(if anything the only one I had was caused by nvidia-310)11:59
tester56yofel: have you tried changing and applying a setting in Task Switcher?12:00
yofelthat's where again?12:00
tester56seach task switcher in kickoff12:01
tester56switch for example the visualitzation method12:01
Riddellhow do you switch between nvidia and nouveau?12:04
tester56booting a live cd ;-)12:04
yofelhm, no, that's fine here it seems12:04
tester56yofel: very weired 12:04
tester56I'll reinstall my nvidia driver12:05
yofelwhat do you mean with "blank" btw.?12:06
yofelthe window contents are black?12:06
shadeslayer python-kde4-dev : Depends: python-kde4 (>= 4:4.9.4-0ubuntu0.1) but it is not going to be installed12:06
shadeslayerwhy that sounds like fun12:06
tester56and some windows are 100% transluent 12:06
yofelI got that when changing the display configuration back with nvidia-310, doesn't happen anymore with 31912:06
yofelthe translucent part I never saw12:07
smartboyhw!screenshot | tester56 12:07
ubottutester56: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.12:07
smartboyhwI think that will be better for us to understand the situation:)12:07
Tm_They anything particular I should test on PPC ?12:07
smartboyhwTm_T, you got your PPC power cord back?12:07
Riddellwe still have powerpc?12:07
smartboyhwYay, we don't need to depend on Lubuntu PPC testers anymore:P12:08
Tm_Tsmartboyhw: indeed I bought some china made power supply12:08
smartboyhwTm_T, :O12:08
* smartboyhw warns Tm_T that it will explode one day:P12:08
Tm_Tfinally found a cheap one12:08
Tm_Tsmartboyhw: so will I ... wait what12:08
smartboyhwyofel, thanks for fixing, it builds now:)12:09
* smartboyhw hates powerpc actually12:09
smartboyhwMaking developers and packagers having to spend time making it work on powerpc12:09
tester56okay i have found the reason: i am using a script that install all my packages on a new install ... i seem to have used an old version this time that install nvidia 304 ... 12:11
yofelI guess there's enough people that still use it12:11
tester56sorry for the wrong informations12:11
* tester56 is using nvidia-304 actually12:11
shriniRiddell: hi12:12
shrinihow can i contribute to kde or kubuntu by testing?12:12
shriniis kde uses autopilot for testing?12:12
shadeslayershrini: I started writing some autopilot scripts12:13
shadeslayerneeds more love though12:13
shadeslayershrini: https://code.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+junk/autopilot12:13
shrinishadeslayer: awesome12:13
smartboyhwshrini, we also have image testing pre-release:)12:13
Riddellshrini: mostly hang around on the irc channel until something needs testing12:14
Riddellshrini: want to be added to the !testers call?12:14
smartboyhwHow long have we NOT used !testers?12:14
RiddellI've used it plenty12:14
shriniRiddell: what is that call?12:14
Riddellshrini: a ping to anyone who's offered to help test things12:14
smartboyhwshrini, it calls testers when needed:)12:14
yofelshadeslayer: that test would fail on my system btw. ^^12:15
shadeslayeryofel: what12:15
yofelis alt+f1 the default now? Because for me it's "None"12:15
shadeslayerbut then I'm on saucy12:15
shadeslayerWasn't alt+f1 always the default12:15
shriniRiddell: please add me12:15
smartboyhwYeah, we got a new tester!12:15
smartboyhwHow long have we not used !ninjas BTW?12:15
shadeslayeryofel: maybe you added the plasmoid manually?12:15
shriniis it manual test or need autopilot script?12:15
shadeslayerbecause the Kubuntu plasma init script sets it to alt + f112:16
smartboyhwshrini, manual normally, if we use !testers currently:)12:16
ubottuHelp is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information.12:16
smartboyhwYes, like that12:16
Riddellubottu: no testers is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini for information.12:16
tester56Riddell: would be nice if you could add me too :D12:16
Riddell13:16 <ubottu> Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops.  Thank you for your attention to detail12:16
Riddellubottu: no testers is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56 for information.12:17
Riddell13:17 <ubottu> Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops.  Thank you for your attention to detail12:17
* smartboyhw wonders why the hell is shadeslayer not in the !testers factoid...12:17
smartboyhwRiddell, I don't think so....12:17
shadeslayerI am12:17
BluesKajRiddell, I assume that test call was for shrini 's benefit and is not real12:17
yofelshadeslayer: hm, dunno, but then again this session is 3 years old. It sadly doesn't tell me whether I changed it or not12:17
Riddellsmartboyhw: he is12:17
RiddellBluesKaj: right, sorry for the noise12:17
smartboyhwRiddell, I mean, the factoid12:17
shrinithanks for adding me12:17
smartboyhwYou miss one thing12:17
shadeslayeryofel: heh, either way, just set it to alt + f1 :P12:17
Riddellshrini: want to test owncloud?12:17
BluesKajRiddell, np :)12:17
shriniwill love to do it12:18
shrinii am new to testing12:18
Riddellshrini: what release are you on?12:18
shriniguide me on what to do12:18
shadeslayershrini: feel free to contribute to the autopilot tests if you have some experience there12:18
shrinii am on Linux Mint 15 Olivia12:18
shrinishadeslayer: sure12:18
shadeslayerand hurray, Firefox KDE updated12:18
shrinii am learning autopilot12:18
shadeslayercool :)12:18
yofelshadeslayer: why are you trying to open it twice btw.?12:18
Riddellshrini: ah, harder to test kubuntu without being on it12:19
shriniRiddell: i am Linux Mint 15 Olivia12:19
shadeslayeryofel: first call is to open, second call is to close it12:19
smartboyhw!no testers-#kubuntu-devel is <reply> Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56 for information.12:19
smartboyhwRiddell, that's the one12:19
smartboyhwYou need <reply>12:19
shadeslayeryofel: though I think mouse support is broken, atleast in saucy12:19
shriniRiddell: oh. is there any difference on kubuntu and mint wih kde?12:19
shriniI am on KDe only12:19
smartboyhwshrini, Linux Mint!?:O12:19
shrinismartboyhw: yes12:20
Riddellshrini: sure, they're different distros, mint will add or change a load of stuff12:20
shriniRiddell: okey12:20
shriniwill install kubuntu and update you all12:21
smartboyhwyofel, aroof works on i386 too:)12:23
Tm_Tsmartboyhw: factoid applied12:24
shriniI am intestested in kde development too12:25
shrinibut not a c/c++ guy12:25
Riddellshrini: find a bug and fix it :)12:25
shriniknow python12:25
shadeslayeryofel: care to look at okular while I fix kdepim-runtime?12:25
smartboyhwTm_T, thanks:)12:25
shriniis it any possibloe to contreibute via python?12:26
shadeslayershrini: sure12:26
smartboyhwshrini, try packaging:P12:26
shriniwhere to start?12:26
Riddellshrini: find a bug in gdebi, or jockey, or usb-creator-kde and fix it :)12:26
shriniRiddell: rite12:26
shadeslayeractually, wasn't usb-creator-kde pretty bugged?12:26
Riddellyeah I can point out obvious bugs in usb-creator-kde12:26
shriniis there any page listing applications written in python and qt?12:26
smartboyhwshadeslayer, it's not as buggy as usb-creator-gtk12:26
Riddellshrini: apt-cache rdepends python-kde412:27
smartboyhwWe have complained about it for at least a WHOLE YEAR12:27
smartboyhwyofel, wait, let me get you the bug number12:27
yofelsmartboyhw: what was up with the tests again?12:27
yofelI remember12:28
smartboyhwyofel, :)12:28
shriniRiddell: yes. that command gives some list12:28
shriniwill check for the12:28
Riddellshrini: the most important thing is to hang around in here, irc is the main means of communication :)12:28
smartboyhwyofel, ^12:28
shriniwhere to check the availalebus?12:28
Riddellshrini: availalebus?12:28
shriniavailable bugs?12:28
yofelsmartboyhw: just to give it a try12:29
shriniwhere to check the available bugs for any given software?12:29
Riddellshrini: depends on the app, gdebi jockey usb-creator-kde are ubuntu things so they're in launchpad.net/ubuntu12:29
smartboyhwyofel, +112:29
shrinimoving to a meeting noiw12:29
shriniwill meet you all12:29
shriniafter isntalling kubuntu12:30
shrinitoday night12:30
* smartboyhw is trying to figure out what KDE project should he start on programming12:30
tester56sessionk :D12:30
smartboyhwtester56, meh12:31
tester56would be very sensible12:31
smartboyhwtester56, really? Seriously? Are you sure?12:31
tester56sure ... a fast starting plasma session is always sensible 12:32
Riddellsmartboyhw: no, but ask dantii about what makes sense in terms of looking at it (he was talking about it in here recently)12:32
smartboyhwRiddell, looking at it = ?12:33
RiddellSubject: [Announce] Qt 5.1 released12:33
Riddellsmartboyhw: if it makes sense to have it in a PPA or something, I don't know12:33
smartboyhwRiddell, \o/ for the first one, OK let me ask for the second12:34
tester56right now it is not ready as it does not start kcm modules12:34
smartboyhwWe do have already neon though12:34
tester56so you don't get a fully working plasma at the moment without further changes12:34
smartboyhwRiddell, probably not a PPA, just use neon12:35
smartboyhwIf one day it's stable enough, I can provide PPAs.12:35
smartboyhwand probably, package it into Ubuntu.12:36
tester56but it would definitely be sth. that makes sense to a wider range of users12:36
=== greyback is now known as greyback|lunch
tester56dantii told me right now he is very busy with his email client ...12:37
tester56and there are no other devs yet for sessionk12:38
tester56right now12:38
smartboyhwtester56, the first patch I would provide is actually a README. (LOL)12:38
smartboyhwyofel, great thanks!12:39
shadeslayerLP is soooo slow12:40
smartboyhwshadeslayer, why?12:41
shadeslayertoo many packages in the PPA12:41
smartboyhwshadeslayer, which? Staging PPA?12:42
shadeslayertimes out12:42
* smartboyhw thinks they should do some PURGING12:42
kubotusmartboyhw meant: "thinks we should do some PURGING"12:42
smartboyhwRiddell, um armhf simon wasn't fixed12:45
Riddellsmartboyhw: what wasn't fixed about it?12:45
smartboyhwRiddell, qreal again12:45
Riddellerror: no matching function for call to 'qBound(qreal, double&, qreal)'12:46
Riddellhmm, the usual12:46
smartboyhwguys, has anyone here tried out KLyDE yet?12:47
yofelsmartboyhw: I'll upload12:47
smartboyhwyofel, greato12:47
smartboyhwshadeslayer, for wut?12:48
* tester56 upgraded to nvidia-319 and the problem with black windows is still there! :-(12:48
shadeslayerto do anything apart from regular Kubuntu stuff12:48
tester56yofel: did you do a new install or just upgrading?12:48
smartboyhwshadeslayer, :)12:48
yofelupgrade here12:48
shadeslayerneed moar time12:49
tester56yofel: nvidia-319 or nvidia-319-dev package?12:49
yofelnvidia-319. I don't have the dev stuff12:49
tester56are you using the default repo version or xorg-edgers ?12:50
tester56weired ... me too12:51
tester56latest upgrades?12:51
yofelA day old I think, I didn't get to updating yesterday12:52
tester56I'm out of ideas now 12:53
tester56the windows need to be resized to make the content appear again12:56
tester56or i need to apply settings a second time 12:56
shadeslayeryofel: do you think we can somehow add ordering by build status to the build page12:58
shadeslayerwith some fancy js12:58
shadeslayerso that we can order the FTBFS builds at the top12:59
=== greyback|lunch is now known as greyback
yofelpossibly, but I can't tell you offhand how13:00
* yofel hides, bbl13:00
yofelThe signer of this package is lacking the upload rights for the source package, component or package set in question.13:01
tester56yofel: does not happen in project-neon session13:02
tester56why :/?13:02
yofelno idea, maybe it's something in the cache? or some old setting?13:02
yofelwhat rendering option are you using for kwin?13:02
yofelI'm on OpenGl 3.1 / Raster13:03
tester56tried them all opengl 2.0, 3.0 all vsync options13:03
yofelthen I'm clueless13:03
tester56even tried guest session (in case it was cache) did happen there too13:03
tester56but in project neon it does not happen13:03
tester56so if it was a bug it's fixed upstream 13:04
yofelcould some MOTU please sponsor https://launchpad.net/~yofel/+archive/ppa/+files/libkgapi_2.0.1-0ubuntu1%7Eppa1.dsc - thanks13:08
shadeslayeryofel: if either one of us were MOTU's this wouldn't have been an issue :P13:10
shadeslayerdidn't we resolve to apply for MOTU status at some point?13:10
yofelwe did, but things came up and...13:10
Riddellyofel: onto it13:20
Riddellsmartboyhw: yofel: still going for the two -dbg packages?13:21
smartboyhwRiddell, yeah13:24
smartboyhwThis libkgapi is going to cause a lot of NEW :P13:26
Riddelluploaded libkgapi13:29
smartboyhwRiddell, \o/ thanks13:30
tester56does anyone know the GLX_EXT_buffer_age state in kwin?13:39
tester56does not seem to be implemented right now13:42
tester56btw: i am experiencing some kwin performance regressions on saucy ... kwin uses heck a lot more cpu (using nvidia proprietary)13:43
tester56watching videos (not fullscreen)13:43
tester56i tried disabeling sync to vblank ... did not change the behaviour ... opengl backend does not seem to matter 13:44
smartboyhwyofel, er, you still didn't add the packaging bug for me;(13:48
smartboyhwI think I will have to manually close it then13:48
shadeslayertester56: please report a bug upstream13:52
tester56okay i have found the reason ... it is the new sync to vblank13:53
* shadeslayer waves fist at okular13:53
tester56only when sync to vblank is disabled the cpu usage reaches normal levels13:53
tester56als sync to vblank options are cpu intense with automatic being the worst13:54
Riddell!testers | test owncloud update on raring http://ec2-54-224-232-46.compute-1.amazonaws.com/owncloud/13:55
ubottuHelp is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56 for information.13:55
smartboyhwRiddell, how!?!?!?!!?13:55
soeeoh you, again?13:55
smartboyhwRiddell, username, password?13:56
tester56the new sync to vblank options are more reliable than the old implementation bug ... but consume too much cpu13:56
shadeslayerRiddell: username / pw?13:56
shadeslayerthat reminds me13:56
soeetester56, black window content area ?13:56
shadeslayerwhy is your root password on your machine hello -.-13:56
smartboyhwshadeslayer, LOL13:57
tester56soee: no ... sync to vblank consuming too much cpu 13:57
* smartboyhw has uploaded libkfbapi 1.0 to ownCloud (for fun:P)13:57
* shadeslayer uploads a blurry pic of spain13:58
smartboyhwshadeslayer, :I13:58
smartboyhwWhoa, :I that's a nice symbol!13:59
* tester56 uploaded snapshot1.png14:00
tester56c ya!14:00
Riddellshadeslayer, smartboyhw: bits I changed were using the built in pdfjs, timepicker, fontawesome, php-aws-sdk, php-sabre-dav, php-sabre-vobject, php-seclib14:04
Riddellso check those work if you can work out how14:04
shadeslayerah just a sec @ pdf.js14:04
shadeslayerRiddell: pdfjs doesn't work14:14
Riddellshadeslayer: does for me using firefox14:17
shadeslayerhm, sec14:17
Riddellhttp://ec2-54-224-232-46.compute-1.amazonaws.com/owncloud/index.php/apps/files  click on FCC14:17
* shadeslayer checks his owncloud instance14:17
Riddelland rekonq14:18
Riddellright, same thing on quantal14:19
ubottuHelp is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56 for information.14:19
Riddellroot/a  is the mysql password14:19
smartboyhwRiddell, wait, what's pdfjs supposed to do?14:19
smartboyhwRiddell, database name?14:20
Riddellsmartboyhw: view PDFs14:20
Riddellsmartboyhw: whatever you want I'd think14:20
smartboyhwRiddell, it works on FF14:20
Riddellsmartboyhw: what does?14:21
smartboyhwDatabase name: owncloud_quantal_jr14:21
smartboyhwRiddell, pdfjs14:21
smartboyhwUploaded a .jpeg to quantal (actually, that's Nicholas Skaggs)14:23
Riddellsmartboyhw: what username/pass did you use?14:23
smartboyhwRiddell, same as raring14:23
smartboyhwArchive builds don't really build fast14:32
smartboyhwlibkgapi saucy powerpc build start in 2 hours14:33
Riddellpowerpc is always slow, but then nobody cares about it14:34
* smartboyhw yawns14:36
smartboyhwLooks rather relaxing now:)14:36
shadeslayeryofel: any recommendations on what to do with okular14:37
shadeslayerbecause we'll need to remove the plasma okular app14:37
shadeslayerand also somehow remove it from the control file14:37
yofelcontrol file I think not, it would be an empty package14:39
yofeljust remove the build-dep and the install file14:39
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Riddellwho knows about apache15:13
Riddellapache in precise is complaining about line 6 http://paste.kde.org/788342/15:13
Riddellnot unreasonably I'd say15:13
lordievaderGood afternoon.15:28
shadeslayerhmm okay15:34
shadeslayeryofel: btw I need a sed tip for also deleting the new line 15:37
yofelwhat new line?15:38
shadeslayered -e 's/plasma-active-dev,//g' -i debian/control  leaves me with http://paste.kde.org/78836015:38
shadeslayerline 2515:38
yofelsee e.g. kde-runtime hook line 515:39
yofelsed has a delete line command15:39
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1177823] qdbus needs qtchooser dependency to work @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1177823 (by Patola)15:44
=== sreich2 is now known as sreich
RiddellScottK: owncloud in bug 1079150 for SRU approval16:01
ubottubug 1079150 in owncloud (Ubuntu Raring) "Remove obsolete versions of owncloud " [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107915016:01
shadeslayer[ 91%] make[4]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/libboost_thread-mt.so', needed by `resources/kolabproxy/akonadi_kolabproxy_resource'.  Stop.16:07
shadeslayer!find usr/lib/libboost_thread-mt.so quantal16:07
ubottuFile usr/lib/libboost_thread-mt.so found in libboost-thread1.49-dev, libboost-thread1.50-dev16:07
shadeslayerbut ... but ... but libboost-thread1.49-dev is pulled16:08
shadeslayersuggested packages16:08
smartboyhwMorse code!16:08
shadeslayersmartboyhw: that stuff is boring16:37
smartboyhwBack here shadeslayer please help to complete http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.10.5_raring.html :P16:37
shadeslayeralso, seems like only kdeplasma-addons is remaining?16:37
smartboyhwshadeslayer, well that pleases the raring users, we got people in G+ asking already16:37
smartboyhwshadeslayer, dunno, there might be some more:P16:37
shadeslayerI don't see any red16:37
shadeslayerapart from kdeplasma-addons16:38
smartboyhwshadeslayer, well red isn't the only standard16:38
shadeslayertoo damn hot16:39
shadeslayerwill do it tomorrow16:39
Peace-mmm there is somethin  of strange here17:25
Peace-just upgraded kubuntu and it did not boot 17:25
Peace-grub just doesn't show up 17:26
Peace-restored grub and it has been installed in the wrong partition i guess17:26
Peace-infact if i select restore windows etc etc it starts kubutnu with grub17:27
asenyhi everyone i am new here and i want a good place to start learning Kubuntu development18:58
ScottKWelcome aseny.19:17

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