| === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.10.90 saucy in archive, raring in beta ppa, quantal in staging PPA | 4.10.5 ninjas/raring testing | 4.10.4 in raring-updates | 13.10 Alpha 1 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj | ||
| yofel | !testers | 4.10.5 is ready for testing in ninjas (raring) | 00:22 |
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| ubottu | 4.10.5 is ready for testing in ninjas (raring): Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56 for information. | 00:22 |
| yofel | I only did a dependency check so far | 00:22 |
| yofel | quantal and precise will follow later | 00:22 |
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| === apachleogger_ is now known as apachelogger_ | ||
| === jono is now known as Guest55880 | ||
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| manchicken | Howdy | 05:33 |
| manchicken | Anybody know where I can find QApt docs (if there are any)? | 06:01 |
| soee | good morning | 06:16 |
| valorie | manchicken: http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/introducing-qapt-and-the-muon-package-manager/ | 06:16 |
| valorie | look at the bottom of that for more info | 06:16 |
| valorie | sorta casual, but better than nothing, right? | 06:17 |
| manchicken | No doubt. | 06:22 |
| shrinivasan | hello all | 06:37 |
| === shrinivasan is now known as shrini | ||
| shrini | i installed kubuntu 13.04 | 06:38 |
| shrini | Riddell: I am ready with kubuntu 13.04 | 06:44 |
| manchicken | Doesn't seem like QApt deals with sources. | 06:57 |
| shrini | anybody there? | 09:24 |
| shrini | i am fixing the issue 665632 | 09:24 |
| shrini | how to push the changes to the mainstream? | 09:24 |
| shrini | Riddell: hello | 09:24 |
| shadeslayer | shrini: is that in bugs.kde.org or lauchpad? | 09:34 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I'm using a quantal instance, plz don't shut down that one :) | 09:35 |
| shadeslayer | ( ec2 quantal instance ) | 09:36 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: launchpad | 09:38 |
| shrini | it is a kubuntu bug - little spell error only | 09:38 |
| shadeslayer | can you give me a diff | 09:38 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 09:39 |
| shadeslayer | I know | 09:39 |
| shadeslayer | shrini: branch the bzr branch, commit your fix, push it to launchpad and ask for a merge | 09:39 |
| shadeslayer | please use bzr commit --fixes lp:665632 when committing | 09:39 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: how to send you the diff? | 09:44 |
| shrini | ok | 09:45 |
| shrini | will do the commit | 09:45 |
| shrini | i committed in my junk folder | 09:45 |
| shrini | https://code.launchpad.net/~shrini/+junk/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu | 09:45 |
| shrini | what to do now? | 09:46 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: ^^^ | 09:46 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~shrini/+junk/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/revision/64 | 09:46 |
| shrini | this my commit | 09:47 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: hope you can see the diff there | 09:47 |
| shadeslayer | sec phone | 09:48 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: okey | 09:50 |
| Riddell | bug 665632 | 09:54 |
| ubottu | bug 665632 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu: Grammar in OpenOffice,org slide" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665632 | 09:54 |
| shrini | hi Riddell | 09:54 |
| shrini | yes | 09:54 |
| shrini | that is what i am working on | 09:54 |
| shrini | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~shrini/+junk/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/revision/64 | 09:55 |
| Riddell | lovely :) | 09:55 |
| shadeslayer | shrini: check if https://code.launchpad.net/~shrini/+junk/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu has a link called "Propose merge" | 09:55 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: no such link | 09:56 |
| shrini | Do i need to be a project member to apply for merge? | 09:56 |
| shrini | applied for project | 09:56 |
| shrini | waiting for project approval | 09:56 |
| Riddell | ooh agateau back on ubiquity fixing | 09:57 |
| shadeslayer | I think that's because you have +junk | 09:57 |
| agateau | Riddell: :) | 09:57 |
| shadeslayer | plz push to lp:~shrini/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu | 09:57 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: what to do now? | 09:57 |
| shrini | ok | 09:57 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: can you have a look at my merge proposal as well :P | 09:57 |
| Riddell | agateau: the most serious ubiquity problem is that it doesn't work from the arm images, I'm not sure what that mode is called | 09:57 |
| shadeslayer | oem? | 09:58 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: sure, do you have the url? | 09:58 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: https://code.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/ubiquity/ubiquity/+merge/172045 | 09:58 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: pushing there now | 09:58 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: similar but oem mode works fine | 09:58 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 09:58 |
| shadeslayer | there's *another* mode? :O | 09:58 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: why we mention the project name two times? | 09:58 |
| agateau | Riddell: sounds difficult to debug without proper hardware | 09:58 |
| agateau | Riddell: or is it doable with qemu | 09:59 |
| shadeslayer | shrini: it's usually : lp:~username/project/branch_name | 09:59 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: ok | 09:59 |
| * agateau is expecting super powerful laptop to be delivered in a few hours, should make those kind of things possible | 09:59 | |
| Riddell | agateau: I'm not sure, xnox any thoughts how to start it up in that mode? | 09:59 |
| shrini | it seems it is pushing entire code | 09:59 |
| shrini | why it is not pushing only the changeset? | 09:59 |
| shadeslayer | because it's a new branch | 09:59 |
| shrini | i think bazaar works this way | 10:00 |
| shrini | ok | 10:00 |
| shadeslayer | nope, git works the same way | 10:00 |
| xnox | Riddell: well it's same as boot CD - on the human icon, click Esc, select "Install now" | 10:00 |
| xnox | aka ubiquity-dm installer | 10:00 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: is there any page that explains the process of contributing via lp? | 10:00 |
| shrini | so that i can share to all my friends | 10:00 |
| shadeslayer | https://help.launchpad.net/Code/QuickStart | 10:01 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: https://code.launchpad.net/~shrini/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu | 10:02 |
| shrini | here it is | 10:03 |
| shrini | it has the text "propose for merging" | 10:03 |
| shadeslayer | Branch merges | 10:03 |
| shadeslayer | Propose for merging | 10:03 |
| shadeslayer | click that | 10:03 |
| shadeslayer | Just add a small description of the change and hit "propose merge" | 10:04 |
| Riddell | xnox: hmm that also works fine so must be more fiddly, I'll load up an arm image and look around | 10:04 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: done | 10:04 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: :-) | 10:04 |
| shadeslayer | shrini: did you use --fixes when commiting? | 10:05 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: yes. i dif | 10:05 |
| shrini | i did | 10:05 |
| shadeslayer | awesome | 10:05 |
| shadeslayer | gah | 10:05 |
| shadeslayer | why are there so many unmerged revisions | 10:05 |
| shadeslayer | https://code.launchpad.net/~shrini/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+merge/172992 | 10:05 |
| shadeslayer | shrini: where did you get the code from :S | 10:06 |
| shadeslayer | and how are you on rev 64 when everyone else is on 564 @_@ | 10:06 |
| shrini | how to check that? | 10:06 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=64&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 64 | removed a bug in --enable-debug | 10:06 |
| shadeslayer | shrini: where did you get the code from? | 10:07 |
| shrini | from the project page only | 10:07 |
| shadeslayer | which one? | 10:07 |
| shrini | is there any command to show it? | 10:07 |
| shadeslayer | I think you branched it from here https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/saucy | 10:08 |
| shadeslayer | which is the wrong repo | 10:08 |
| shrini | yes | 10:08 |
| shadeslayer | please branch from lp:ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu | 10:08 |
| shrini | ok | 10:08 |
| shrini | shall i start it from scratch? | 10:08 |
| shadeslayer | change files there, commit, bzr push --overwrite lp:~shrini/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu | 10:08 |
| shadeslayer | shrini: that, or you could just apply the diff | 10:09 |
| shadeslayer | https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~shrini/+junk/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/diff/64 | 10:09 |
| shadeslayer | download the diff ^ | 10:09 |
| shadeslayer | then use patch -p1 < /path/to/diff inside the branched folder | 10:09 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: do we need to run the build scripts? | 10:13 |
| shadeslayer | build scripts? | 10:13 |
| shrini | make scripts? | 10:13 |
| shadeslayer | I have no idea | 10:15 |
| shrini | ok | 10:18 |
| shrini | I got the existing repo | 10:18 |
| shrini | shall i directly change the files? or do I need to create a new branch for fixing this issue? | 10:18 |
| shadeslayer | huh? | 10:20 |
| shadeslayer | branch repo -> hack hack hack -> overwrite your personal branch with new repo | 10:20 |
| shrini | ok | 10:21 |
| shadeslayer | hmm odd | 10:21 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: The following packages have been kept back: | 10:21 |
| shadeslayer | kdesdk | 10:21 |
| shadeslayer | for quantal | 10:21 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: I pushed to lp:~shrini/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu | 10:25 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: please check it | 10:25 |
| shrini | shall i ask for merge? | 10:25 |
| shadeslayer | I don't think it's there | 10:27 |
| shadeslayer | https://code.launchpad.net/~shrini/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu still says rev 64 | 10:27 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=64&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 64 | removed a bug in --enable-debug | 10:27 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: Riddell any objections to removing akonadi-facebook from seeds since it's in kdepim-runtime now? | 10:28 |
| shrini | bzr push --overwrite lp:~shrini/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu | 10:28 |
| shrini | Enter passphrase for key '/home/shrinivasan/.ssh/id_rsa': | 10:28 |
| shrini | Pushed up to revision 64. | 10:28 |
| shadeslayer | wrong repo much? | 10:28 |
| shrini | i did overwrite as you said already | 10:28 |
| shadeslayer | it should push rev 565 | 10:28 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=565&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 565 | Library changes for 27th July | 10:28 |
| shadeslayer | ubottu: oh shut up | 10:28 |
| ubottu | shadeslayer: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 10:28 |
| shrini | haaha | 10:29 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: bzr branch lp:ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu trunk | 10:29 |
| shrini | this is the command i used to get the code from lp | 10:29 |
| shadeslayer | wrong branch much? | 10:29 |
| shrini | OMG | 10:30 |
| shadeslayer | its lp:ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu | 10:30 |
| shrini | super | 10:30 |
| shrini | will do again | 10:30 |
| shrini | bzr branch lp:ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu trunk | 10:31 |
| shrini | running this command now | 10:31 |
| shrini | how to get the proper repo for any project? | 10:31 |
| shadeslayer | trunk not needed, but whatever | 10:31 |
| shadeslayer | each one is different | 10:32 |
| shadeslayer | but usually it's lp:project-name | 10:32 |
| shadeslayer | though not always | 10:32 |
| shrini | ok | 10:32 |
| shadeslayer | for eg all kde / qt packaging is in lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/whatever | 10:32 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: that's staging upgrade test? | 10:33 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: yeo | 10:34 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 10:34 |
| shadeslayer | still upgrading though | 10:34 |
| yofel | checking | 10:34 |
| shrini | ok | 10:34 |
| shadeslayer | :S | 10:34 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: you have so many ssh keys | 10:34 |
| shadeslayer | https://launchpad.net/~yofel | 10:35 |
| yofel | lol, I have one per system ^^ | 10:35 |
| yofel | well, hardware system | 10:35 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 10:36 |
| shadeslayer | so which one should I copy to authorized_keys | 10:36 |
| yofel | the t510 one | 10:36 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon. | 10:37 |
| shadeslayer | oh well | 10:37 |
| shadeslayer | launchpad just gave me all of them | 10:37 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: ubuntu@ec2-54-227-86-93.compute-1.amazonaws.com | 10:38 |
| shadeslayer | huh | 10:38 |
| shadeslayer | kdesdk : Depends: kdesdk-strigi-plugins (>= 4:4.10.80) but 4:4.10.4-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu12.10~ppa1 is to be installed | 10:38 |
| yofel | uhm, can it be that you didn't backport meta-kde? | 10:39 |
| shadeslayer | I did | 10:39 |
| yofel | er no | 10:39 |
| yofel | yeah, otherwise that wouldn't happen | 10:39 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 10:40 |
| yofel | it wasn't backported for some reason | 10:40 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 10:41 |
| shadeslayer | I don't see it in raring as well | 10:41 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: how do you vnc into the machine? | 10:42 |
| yofel | btw. please also backport amarok from the beta ppa and upload a digikam rebuild as I did for raring | 10:43 |
| * yofel should've written that down somewhere | 10:44 | |
| shadeslayer | kay | 10:44 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: start vncserver | 10:44 |
| shadeslayer | oh, that's it? awesome | 10:44 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yes go ahead and remove akonadi-facebook from the seeds | 10:44 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 10:45 |
| yofel | !testers | 4.10.5 is ready for testing in ninjas (raring) | 10:46 |
| ubottu | 4.10.5 is ready for testing in ninjas (raring): Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56 for information. | 10:46 |
| yofel | I only did a dependency check so far | 10:46 |
| yofel | (as I got 0 feedback so far) | 10:46 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: will check on ec2 in a bit | 10:47 |
| yofel | thanks | 10:47 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 10:50 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, I'll be logging on to raring later today , I'll upgrade then | 10:50 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I can't start it for some reason | 10:50 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 10:51 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: start what? | 10:51 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed? | 10:51 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: https://code.launchpad.net/~shrini/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/fix-for-665632 | 10:52 |
| shadeslayer | yep, was using the wrong display number | 10:52 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: got the rev no 565 now | 10:52 |
| shrini | :-) | 10:52 |
| lordievader | yofel: I can test this afternoon. | 10:53 |
| lordievader | 4.10.5 on Raring that is. | 10:53 |
| yofel | ok, thanks folks | 10:53 |
| shadeslayer | eh | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | channel 3: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused | 10:54 |
| * shrini going for a coffee | 10:56 | |
| shrini | shadeslayer: propsed for merge | 10:56 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 11:00 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: do I have to ask Amazon to open ports or sth? | 11:00 |
| soee | yofel, i can test it on pc here @ work | 11:07 |
| soee | yofel, 4.10.5 is in your ninja ppa ? | 11:13 |
| shadeslayer | grrr | 11:16 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: seriously, how does one get this to work -.- | 11:16 |
| soee | can someone take a look: http://pastebin.com/JBzQeryj | 11:18 |
| shadeslayer | gah | 11:18 |
| soee | should i care about apport-kde and kdelibs5-plugins ? | 11:18 |
| shadeslayer | silly ports | 11:19 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 11:19 |
| shadeslayer | soee: what happens when you type : sudo apt-get install kdelibs5-plugins | 11:19 |
| soee | shadeslayer, http://pastebin.com/3VC2RrcF | 11:20 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: are you backporting kdesdk-strigi-plugins ? | 11:20 |
| shadeslayer | ruh roh | 11:23 |
| shadeslayer | soee: that doesn't look good | 11:23 |
| soee | :< | 11:23 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: hi. is there any update for me? | 11:24 |
| shadeslayer | shrini: please discard https://code.launchpad.net/~shrini/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+merge/172992 | 11:26 |
| shadeslayer | everything else looks good in the new MR | 11:26 |
| shadeslayer | soee: what does apt-cache policy | 11:27 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 11:27 |
| shadeslayer | soee: what does apt-cache policy kdelibs5-plugins say | 11:27 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: I deleted that merge request | 11:27 |
| shadeslayer | thx | 11:28 |
| soee | shadeslayer, http://pastebin.com/s95D9SM7 | 11:28 |
| shadeslayer | wait what | 11:29 |
| shadeslayer | soee: did you add the ninjas PPA? | 11:29 |
| shrini | thanks for the support | 11:29 |
| soee | shadeslayer, yes the one belongs to yofel | 11:29 |
| shadeslayer | did you apt-get update? | 11:29 |
| soee | yes | 11:30 |
| shadeslayer | because it should say ninjas there somewhere | 11:30 |
| shadeslayer | but it does not | 11:30 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: who will merge this? | 11:30 |
| soee | hm wait it looks like its not active | 11:30 |
| shadeslayer | shrini: someone who has time and commit access | 11:31 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: awesome | 11:31 |
| shrini | thanks for the patience | 11:31 |
| shrini | I will blog the process i followed | 11:31 |
| shrini | so that me and others can follow | 11:31 |
| soee | shadeslayer, ok now only apport-kde is stopped | 11:32 |
| soee | also i have info about missign pub key for this ppa | 11:32 |
| soee | right ? | 11:33 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, though you can add the sig | 11:33 |
| shadeslayer | just a second | 11:33 |
| shadeslayer | testing it on ec2 | 11:33 |
| shadeslayer | soee: sudo gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv b2c30b9a0945a8e2 | 11:35 |
| soee | shadeslayer, ok now gpg warning is missing | 11:36 |
| soee | and apport-kde stopped, can i do dist-upgrade ? | 11:37 |
| shadeslayer | what does sudo apt-get install apport-kde say? | 11:38 |
| shadeslayer | soee: ^^ | 11:39 |
| soee | shadeslayer, http://pastebin.com/vmjjRUvM | 11:40 |
| shadeslayer | okay, seems safe | 11:41 |
| shadeslayer | I don't think it's a KDE upgrade issue | 11:41 |
| soee | so ignore this one do upgrade | 11:41 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: still stuck on vnc? | 11:41 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: nah | 11:42 |
| shadeslayer | I just didn't know how to do things | 11:42 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: get it to work? | 11:42 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 11:42 |
| Riddell | lovely | 11:42 |
| shadeslayer | just need to backport one package | 11:42 |
| shadeslayer | and then 4.10.90 for quantal will be ready | 11:42 |
| shadeslayer | !info kdesdk-strigi-plugins saucy | 11:46 |
| ubottu | kdesdk-strigi-plugins (source: kdesdk-strigi-analyzers): software development file format plugins for Strigi Desktop Search. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.10.90-0ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 17 kB, installed size 107 kB | 11:47 |
| shadeslayer | why that is super odd then | 11:47 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: what's off? | 11:53 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: what's odd? | 11:53 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: kdesdk-strigi-analyzers wasn't backported to quantal | 11:53 |
| shadeslayer | not sure why | 11:53 |
| * shadeslayer listens to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMnrl0tmd3k | 11:54 | |
| Riddell | Turnabout Jazz Soul - Track 8 - Godot - The Fragrance of Dark Coffee now I want dark coffee | 11:55 |
| shadeslayer | hah | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: order coffee for Riddell | 11:56 |
| * kubotu slides a cup of steamy hot coffee down the bar to Riddell. | 11:56 | |
| soee | yofel, upgrade 4.10.4 => 4.10.5 done, no errors | 12:01 |
| soee | (raring) | 12:01 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: can you try and click something in systemsettings using vnc over ubuntu@ec2-67-202-12-197.compute-1.amazonaws.com | 12:17 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: password is aa55aa | 12:17 |
| shadeslayer | port 5901 | 12:17 |
| shadeslayer | can't click a single thing | 12:18 |
| agateau | Riddell: on the topic of ubiquity, while I am at it, any particular bug you would like me to look at? | 12:18 |
| Riddell | agateau: slideshow in oem mode? | 12:42 |
| Riddell | it doesn't work | 12:42 |
| Riddell | doesn't show at all | 12:42 |
| Riddell | so probably that's something needing to keep it installed rather than code in ubiquity | 12:42 |
| agateau | Riddell: didn't we investigate this before raring release? | 12:43 |
| agateau | iirc it was a missing package | 12:43 |
| Riddell | agateau: yeah, and the fix I thought would work didn't seem to work | 12:43 |
| agateau | so it's your juridiction :) | 12:43 |
| Riddell | but yeah it is mine | 12:43 |
| Riddell | agateau: there's stuff like adding a wifi setup page as features | 12:44 |
| Riddell | agateau: there's a wiki page xnox has somewhere which would be nice to have screenshots on | 12:44 |
| shrini | shadeslayer: added 3 more similar modifications | 12:44 |
| shrini | thanks for your guidance shadeslayer | 12:44 |
| shadeslayer | cool | 12:44 |
| agateau | Riddell: regarding wifi, didn't you start it shadeslayer? | 12:45 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 12:45 |
| shadeslayer | did not start hacking on wifi | 12:45 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer started the take a photo page | 12:45 |
| shadeslayer | and then the gtk installer dropped | 12:45 |
| shadeslayer | +it | 12:45 |
| Riddell | but wasn't sure if we wanted it, I don't know if gtk side has that one | 12:45 |
| shadeslayer | so I lost the motivation to merge it | 12:45 |
| Riddell | bug 1195255 | 12:46 |
| ubottu | bug 1195255 in casper (Ubuntu) "No ubiquity on Kubuntu Netbook desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1195255 | 12:46 |
| Riddell | also not really a fix in ubiquity | 12:46 |
| Riddell | agateau: were you going to look at the theme to make it a bit less like suse? | 12:46 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: oh ok | 12:47 |
| Riddell | bug 1164239 is the arm issue | 12:47 |
| agateau | Riddell: yes, will probably look at this as well | 12:47 |
| ubottu | bug 1164239 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity does not start on kubuntu 13.04 arm image" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1164239 | 12:47 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: oh ok, I was confused | 12:47 |
| Riddell | bug 1171099 is the thing where we need it to run some reconfiguration before rebooting, that might be an ubiquity issue | 12:48 |
| ubottu | bug 1171099 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu Saucy) "kubuntu - plymouth not shown" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1171099 | 12:48 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: wrt VNC, are you seeing kde 320459 maybe? | 13:05 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 320459 in core "Unreliable input shaping in vnc" [Major,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=320459 | 13:05 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: nope, just wasn't connecting to the right port | 13:06 |
| shadeslayer | vnc started on vnc :4 | 13:06 |
| shadeslayer | I kept trying on :1 | 13:06 |
| yofel | I meant the clicking in systemsettings | 13:06 |
| shadeslayer | ah] | 13:06 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 13:06 |
| shadeslayer | seems like it] | 13:06 |
| yofel | :/ | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | I canc click and open apps | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: fwiw 4.10.5 upgrade went smooth | 13:07 |
| yofel | yeah, the window borders are usable, the window contents aren't | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: btw afiestas_ is proposing http://community.kde.org/KDE_Core/ReleasesProposal | 13:07 |
| yofel | looking | 13:07 |
| yofel | this is... interesting | 13:09 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, I have , 4.10.90 on my raring install ...seems fine so far | 13:12 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: hm, I'm a bit worried about that schedule wrt. 14.04, though we'll probably be able to shove in 4.13.2 just before final freeze | 13:14 |
| yofel | the shorter support timeframe is also something worrysome | 13:14 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: the .4 and .5 releases are optional | 13:15 |
| shadeslayer | and not completely eliminated | 13:15 |
| shadeslayer | if someone backports fixes, then we'll get .4 and .5 | 13:15 |
| yofel | true | 13:15 |
| shrini | Riddell: shadeslayer: http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2013/07/04/how-did-i-fix-a-bug-in-kubuntu-installer/ | 13:16 |
| shrini | blogged my expereence there | 13:16 |
| shrini | thanks for your guidence | 13:16 |
| shadeslayer | cool :) | 13:17 |
| shadeslayer | shrini: though you don't need to branch another branch | 13:17 |
| shadeslayer | once you branch it to trunk | 13:17 |
| shadeslayer | you can just edit the files in trunk | 13:17 |
| Riddell | shrini: cool, I might reblog that so it gets onto planet ubuntu | 13:17 |
| shadeslayer | commit | 13:17 |
| shadeslayer | and bzr push it to your branch on lp | 13:18 |
| shadeslayer | anyway, gtg | 13:18 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: Did I mention 4.10.5 is fine? | 13:18 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: yes you did | 13:18 |
| yofel | btw | 13:18 |
| shrini | Riddell: awesome | 13:18 |
| shadeslayer | cool | 13:18 |
| shrini | Riddell: thanks a lot | 13:18 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: where did you get that proposal from? | 13:18 |
| shrini | read it once | 13:18 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: and thanks for testing ;) | 13:19 |
| shrini | and add comment in the blog if it needs any fix | 13:19 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: just something that was tossed around in another channel, thought it'd be good to get more eyes on it from a distro PoV | 13:20 |
| yofel | ok, thanks | 13:20 |
| yofel | oh | 13:21 |
| yofel | <strohel> http://download.kde.org/unstable/amarok/2.7.90/src/amarok-2.7.90.tar.bz2.mirrorlist we can publicly release as soon as mirrors show up. The release notes still need some love thought | 13:21 |
| shadeslayer | cool | 13:21 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: btw have you ever thought about putting things in kubuntu-ppa/backports in ubuntu backports? | 13:22 |
| yofel | kubotu: newversion amarok 2.7.90 http://download.kde.org/unstable/amarok/2.7.90/src/amarok-2.7.90.tar.bz2.mirrorlist | 13:22 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1197804 | 13:22 |
| smartboyhw | We have new Amarok! | 13:22 |
| smartboyhw | \o/ | 13:23 |
| Riddell | my day is complete :) | 13:23 |
| * shadeslayer nominates smartboyhw to package it since he's so excited | 13:23 | |
| smartboyhw | Give me an hour to whoosh out two guests and take a shower. | 13:23 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: specific applications would be possible, e.g. kdevelop, amarok, possibly some specific digikam versions | 13:23 |
| shadeslayer | nah, I was talking about SC | 13:24 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: best to take gossip about your threesomes to -offtopic :) | 13:24 |
| yofel | the whole KDE SC would be impossible as the official backports require an rdep check | 13:24 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, threesomes!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!?!? | 13:24 |
| yofel | enjoy | 13:24 |
| shadeslayer | bah :| | 13:25 |
| yofel | we currently do that too, but very limited to our default or common kde apps | 13:25 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: how's 4.10.90 Q right now? Do you want to finish that? | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: it's done, d_ed promised to test | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | though another test won't hurt :) | 13:27 |
| yofel | k, from what I see amarok and digikam are missing. I'll do those later when I have time | 13:27 |
| * yofel goes and does write that on the pad | 13:28 | |
| shadeslayer | need to backport precise then | 13:28 |
| yofel | that'll be... fun | 13:29 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 13:30 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: shouldn't be too much of an issue I think | 13:30 |
| yofel | the things is...: boost | 13:30 |
| shadeslayer | because I checked alot of the deps using rmadison and they were good enough for precuse | 13:30 |
| yofel | but lets see what happens | 13:30 |
| * smartboyhw shuts down so the computer can rest, been on for 12 hours to test XMir. | 13:30 | |
| yofel | oh, how did it work for you? | 13:31 |
| smartboyhw | Fairly crap, even on Unity I get two mouse pointers | 13:31 |
| yofel | lol | 13:31 |
| shadeslayer | I think that's a feature | 13:31 |
| shadeslayer | atleast I read about the 2 pointer thing in some release note document | 13:31 |
| yofel | sure, just like I had no mouse movement anymore :P | 13:31 |
| yofel | less movement distraction for the user | 13:31 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, srsly/ | 13:31 |
| shadeslayer | :/ | 13:32 |
| shadeslayer | I think the document said that the second moust cursor is stationary on the top left | 13:32 |
| yofel | oh that, yeah | 13:32 |
| yofel | that's freakin' annoying. But that's the current Mir watermark | 13:32 |
| yofel | better than nothing I guess | 13:33 |
| shadeslayer | 'watermark' | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | can't they do a proper wartermark :P | 13:35 |
| apachelogger | shouldn't it be like simple? pushing the saturation of some predefined pixels up by one I'd imagine | 13:36 |
| yofel | there's supposed to be a proper one soon | 13:36 |
| apachelogger | kk | 13:36 |
| apachelogger | to me it just seems like getting two mouse cursors is more work than having a static pixel color value manipulation :P | 13:37 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I don't think it's 2 mouse cursors | 13:38 |
| shadeslayer | more like one cursor + a static image or sth | 13:38 |
| yofel | it's a cursor icon in the top-left corner | 13:38 |
| Riddell | "Subject: Kubuntu added you on Google+" I have no idea what that means | 13:49 |
| Riddell | is there a user account called Kubuntu? | 13:49 |
| yofel | yeah, the one that's been there for quite a while already. Before they invented communities | 13:52 |
| popey | looks like someone made one, yes https://plus.google.com/u/0/107577785796696065138/posts | 13:52 |
| popey | should be a page not a person | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | ah dbusmenu autoresolved \o/ | 14:05 |
| * apachelogger retriggers frameworks | 14:05 | |
| shadeslayer | hurray | 14:05 |
| smartboyhw | Guys, where's the bug number for amarok again? | 14:05 |
| shadeslayer | 1197804 | 14:06 |
| smartboyhw | Great, but let me update packages first | 14:06 |
| smartboyhw | Bug 1197804 | 14:07 |
| ubottu | bug 1197804 in amarok (Ubuntu) "Please update amarok to 2.7.90" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1197804 | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | with a bit of luck kdelibs should be building again and this time without qt4 pieces | 14:07 |
| smartboyhw | Hmm, a new beta version. This doesn't sound good. | 14:12 |
| smartboyhw | Oh 4.10.4 testing already? | 14:14 |
| smartboyhw | s/4.10.4/4.10.5/ | 14:14 |
| kubotu | smartboyhw meant: "Oh 4.10.5 testing already?" | 14:14 |
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| smartboyhw | Hmm, how to deal with this patch? | 14:26 |
| smartboyhw | The code has changed in CMakeLists.txt | 14:26 |
| smartboyhw | so the patch can't apply. | 14:26 |
| smartboyhw | Actually, it was missing one line of code that was supposed to be - ed | 14:28 |
| smartboyhw | Nobody? | 14:33 |
| yofel | which one? | 14:41 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, um, debian_disable_qtscriptbindings_check_fix | 14:47 |
| smartboyhw | .diff | 14:47 |
| smartboyhw | Now, the MySQL one is even more interesting | 14:48 |
| smartboyhw | There's a new thing called HINTS | 14:48 |
| tester56 | hi, how to set qt4 to default instead of qt5 ? | 14:52 |
| smartboyhw | tester56, for what? | 14:52 |
| smartboyhw | I mean, you don't install qt4-default? | 14:53 |
| tester56 | no because it removes ubuntu-sdk | 14:54 |
| smartboyhw | tester56, ofc | 14:54 |
| tester56 | is there a config file somewhere where i could choose the default one ? | 14:55 |
| * smartboyhw doesn't know | 14:55 | |
| yofel | smartboyhw: debian_disable_qtscriptbindings_check_fix, that was splitted to 2 locations in CMakeLists.txt, so you'll have to renew the patch | 14:55 |
| * yofel gone, bbl | 14:55 | |
| smartboyhw | tester56, well but if you set qt4 as default, ubuntu-sdk wouldn't work anyway | 14:56 |
| smartboyhw | Since ubuntu-sdk requires Qt5 | 14:56 |
| tester56 | thing is : ubuntu sdk doesn't find qt5 anyway ... i have to manually point to qt5 ... | 14:56 |
| tester56 | damn it, ubuntu sdk depends on qt5-default, despite this qtcreator sets qt4 default (facepalm) | 14:59 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: No. | 15:39 |
| ScottK | Please do. | 15:39 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Also, don't forget to file a package removal bug and do a kubuntu-meta upload. | 15:40 |
| manchicken | Okay, dumb question: when in KDE land, why is « std::cerr << "somestringhere" » not printing to stderr? | 15:44 |
| manchicken | apachelogger: We need to start using the latest QApt, or at least backport their changes in. | 15:46 |
| manchicken | apachelogger: https://projects.kde.org/news/226 | 15:47 |
| smartboyhw | Well, I thought JontheEchidna was responsible for packaging it... | 15:47 |
| manchicken | I can code this stuff myself.... or I can use the thing that Jonathan Thomas coded. | 15:48 |
| manchicken | Very possible. | 15:48 |
| ScottK | Jonathan is usually on IRC. | 15:48 |
| manchicken | Don't see him. | 15:48 |
| ScottK | No, not ATM or yesterda. | 15:48 |
| ScottK | y | 15:48 |
| ScottK | He may be on vacation for the 4th. | 15:49 |
| manchicken | I was about to go and code something to swim in sources files. | 15:49 |
| manchicken | This is vacation, is it not? | 15:49 |
| smartboyhw | manchicken, you don't *code* the packaging:P (except debian/rules and patches) | 15:49 |
| manchicken | smartboyhw: I wasn't packaging. I'm also not talking about something Jonathan is said to have been packaging. | 15:49 |
| smartboyhw | manchicken, you mean, to depend on it? | 15:50 |
| smartboyhw | Well then:P | 15:50 |
| manchicken | smartboyhw: Unless he's only reporting features he's pulling in. | 15:50 |
| ScottK | manchicken: For old farts like us, he's young enough to still get forced by $PARENTS to go do stuff. | 15:50 |
| manchicken | smartboyhw: I'm doing some stuff with kubuntu-debug-installer. | 15:50 |
| * smartboyhw wonders when JontheEchidna will come back | 15:50 | |
| smartboyhw | manchicken, oh good | 15:50 |
| smartboyhw | ScottK, :O | 15:50 |
| * manchicken shudders | 15:50 | |
| manchicken | ScottK: I had kids so I could force them to do the stuff I didn't want to do when I was a kid but had to anyway. | 15:51 |
| manchicken | All three of 'em. Sucks to be them! | 15:51 |
| ScottK | manchicken: Of course. | 15:51 |
| Riddell | oh it's an important US holiday today isn't it? | 15:53 |
| ScottK | It is. | 15:53 |
| Riddell | happy important US holiday americans | 15:53 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 15:53 |
| * Riddell suspect ScottK isn't in holiday mode | 15:53 | |
| Riddell | manchicken: use KDebug() << "foo"; | 15:54 |
| ScottK | Sure am. I just woke up 20 minutes ago. Sleeping in until 11:30 is definitely holiday mode. | 15:54 |
| manchicken | Riddell: I knew it was a dumb question :) | 15:54 |
| manchicken | Riddell: It's blow sh?t up day. | 15:55 |
| Riddell | manchicken: what are you working on? | 15:55 |
| manchicken | Riddell: The day where we celebrate blowing various items up, be they industrial, agricultural, or household items. | 15:55 |
| manchicken | Riddell: kubuntu-debug-installer, trying to figure out how to get the new sources added and then do update and all that jazz. | 15:55 |
| Riddell | dear NSA/GCHQ, please note that manchicken does not speak for us in his terrorist tendencies | 15:56 |
| manchicken | Riddell: I just discovered that there's an alpha version of QApt which may do the sources portion of this already. | 15:56 |
| manchicken | Riddell: blowing sh?t up != blowing people up. | 15:56 |
| ScottK | manchicken: You can assume that'll land eventually. Don't redo those bits. | 15:56 |
| manchicken | Riddell: Inanimate objects and invertibrates only. | 15:56 |
| manchicken | I must say, kdevelop has matured quite a bit. The doc viewer is still difficult to work with, but I am very impressed with the program overall. | 15:58 |
| Riddell | manchicken: I know some anarchist vegans who would not take kindly to that | 15:58 |
| manchicken | Riddell: That's the lovely thing about human beings, if you try hard enough you can irritate or offend at least a significant number of them in a single act. | 15:59 |
| manchicken | Riddell: I was a marxist vegan for four years... is that not close enough? | 15:59 |
| * Riddell tries to picture manchicken as a marxist vegan and fails | 16:00 | |
| manchicken | I might just start using my SmashRun page as my "homepage" whenever a web form asks for one. | 16:01 |
| manchicken | Riddell: Would you believe I've already run over 530 miles for the year/ | 16:01 |
| manchicken | Today is the last day of my 39-day run streak. | 16:02 |
| manchicken | Ooh, yesterday's run put me at 540. | 16:02 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: package already removed | 16:03 |
| shadeslayer | and 'No' > | 16:03 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Thanks | 16:03 |
| shadeslayer | ? | 16:03 |
| ScottK | For taking care of/checking on the removal | 16:04 |
| shadeslayer | no I meant, what was the 'No' for :P | 16:05 |
| shadeslayer | will upload kubuntu-meta tomorrow | 16:05 |
| ScottK | OK | 16:05 |
| manchicken | QApt has many deps for building. | 16:07 |
| manchicken | At least the version in git. | 16:07 |
| manchicken | Yay! I have the deps installed. Finally | 16:19 |
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| manchicken | Argh, I need to chroot all of this, don't I? | 16:23 |
| manchicken | I am gonna go buy my kid a bike instead. | 16:25 |
| manchicken | That sounds like an excellent use of time. | 16:25 |
| tester56 | yofel: As you are on nvidia-319: Have you experienced kwin using much more cpu in 4.11 than the cycles before? | 17:09 |
| yofel | tester56: I didn't particulary notice it, but you're right. With vsync it uses ~6% CPU, without ~1% CPU on indle | 17:19 |
| yofel | *idle | 17:19 |
| tester56 | yeah vsync is pretty bad in 4.11 | 17:19 |
| tester56 | only disabling solves the problem | 17:20 |
| tester56 | compiled kwin with buffer_age today ... | 17:20 |
| tester56 | does not seems much better eihter :-( | 17:20 |
| tester56 | although it should be ... | 17:21 |
| tester56 | it seems the cpu has to do work the gpu should be doing ... | 17:21 |
| lordievader | yofel: Wanted to test KDE 4.10.5 on Raring, but after a dist-upgrade I see I have 4.10.90, that is not a code name for 4.10.5 is it? | 17:27 |
| yofel | not quite :D | 17:27 |
| yofel | well, others tried it already so it's fine | 17:28 |
| lordievader | Ah oke. | 17:28 |
| ScottK | lordievader: You have the wrong PPA enabled then. | 17:28 |
| lordievader | ScottK: kubuntu-ninjas/ppa/ubuntu a yofel private ppa. | 17:30 |
| yofel | wrong release? ninjas for raring has 4.10.5 | 17:31 |
| yofel | maybe you got it from staging or beta | 17:31 |
| lordievader | Raring main, I'll check if proposed is enabled. | 17:31 |
| lordievader | Nope pre-released isn't enabled. | 17:32 |
| yofel | lordievader: apt-cache policy kde-runtime please | 17:33 |
| lordievader | yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5844268/ Hmm there is some kubuntu beta ppa enabled it seems. | 17:34 |
| snele_ | I can test 4.10.5 for precise if/when it is available | 17:35 |
| manchicken | There's gotta be a list of repo mirrors for 13.10 somewhere... wtf... | 17:42 |
| yofel | manchicken: list of official mirrors: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors | 17:44 |
| jabberwocky_ | Kubuntu 13.10 is running without any problems here, pleasant experience. Good job guys! | 17:59 |
| * jabberwocky_ installed 13.10 to test wayland multiseat setup (not multi-input shown as multiseat on phoronix and reposted all over the internet) | 18:00 | |
| manchicken | It's been a while since I've configured a chroot. | 18:08 |
| manchicken | It's a lot less troublesome than I remember. | 18:09 |
| soee | muon works on arch ? | 18:47 |
| manchicken | soee: ArchLinux? | 18:50 |
| ScottK | No idea. You should ask on some Arch related place. | 18:51 |
| ScottK | They've got their own package management system, AIUI, so it'd be surprising. | 18:51 |
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| soee | manchicken, yes | 18:51 |
| manchicken | Why would an apt package manager work on a pacman system? | 18:51 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| ScottK | You can use yum to install rpms on .deb systems, so who knows. | 19:05 |
| manchicken | I would be particularly surprised. | 19:08 |
| manchicken | This would be more like yum working with deb repos. | 19:10 |
| ScottK | Right. | 19:11 |
| manchicken | Are we okay if I make this change to kubuntu-debug-installer depend on the new version of QApt? | 19:14 |
| yofel | 2.0.65? That's the version we have in the dev release already | 19:18 |
| yofel | so that's perfectly fine | 19:18 |
| manchicken | Naw | 19:22 |
| manchicken | 2.1 | 19:22 |
| manchicken | No, I'm wrong | 19:23 |
| manchicken | No, I'm not wrong: 2.1: (as of 2.1 alpha) | 19:23 |
| manchicken | That's what the changelog says. | 19:23 |
| ScottK | qt4-x11 4.8.5 is in Debian, so it could use a merge. | 19:23 |
| ScottK | manchicken: Did you look at what's in saucy? It may be there already, but if not, it's definitely planned for this cycle, so it's safe to assume it'll be there. | 19:24 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Heya. | 19:24 |
| manchicken | 2.0.65 | 19:24 |
| ScottK | manchicken: ^^^ | 19:24 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: hi | 19:24 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: manchicken is working on the kubuntu-debug installer and he's trying to see what qapt features will be in saucy. | 19:25 |
| ScottK | manchicken: ^^^ there's your man. Discuss. | 19:25 |
| manchicken | Version: 2.0.65-0ubuntu1 | 19:25 |
| manchicken | JontheEchidna: From the ChangeLog, it looks like the sources list functionality is supported in the latest beta. | 19:26 |
| manchicken | Which could save time on developing this feature. | 19:26 |
| JontheEchidna | manchicken: Yes, that should be mostly feature complete at this point. | 19:27 |
| manchicken | JontheEchidna: Do you think this is going to be in 13.10? | 19:27 |
| JontheEchidna | manchicken: yup, definitely | 19:27 |
| manchicken | Sweet. | 19:28 |
| manchicken | Can I code against your git repo for now? | 19:28 |
| JontheEchidna | manchicken: Sure. The API shouldn't change too drastically I don't think. In fact, if you have any suggestions API-wise I'd be glad to hear them. | 19:29 |
| manchicken | Sweet. | 19:30 |
| manchicken | That invitation may result in meddling. Just warning ya :) | 19:30 |
| JontheEchidna | hehe | 19:30 |
| manchicken | I'm still setting up my chroot. | 19:30 |
| manchicken | My 1.5mbps connection can't really handle this. | 19:31 |
| manchicken | I ordered faster service last night, but it won't be here until Tuesday. | 19:31 |
| JontheEchidna | I hear ya. The connection where I am is a 3 mbps. (They kindly doubled it for free a couple months back) | 19:31 |
| JontheEchidna | still a bit pitiful compared to the 20 mbps I get at my apartment though | 19:32 |
| manchicken | They keep telling me know when I ask. | 19:32 |
| manchicken | You in the US? | 19:32 |
| JontheEchidna | yup | 19:32 |
| manchicken | I'm in Mahomet, IL. We get a choice between fast and unreliable or slow and rock solid. | 19:32 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: happy independence day :) | 19:32 |
| manchicken | I've been using the later. | 19:32 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: thanks! | 19:32 |
| manchicken | JontheEchidna: You gonna blow some stuff up today? | 19:33 |
| shadeslayer | fireworks all sorted out?: | 19:33 |
| yofel | happy independence day to all US folks here | 19:33 |
| yofel | I totally didn't realize that it's the 4th ^^ | 19:33 |
| JontheEchidna | manchicken: dunno. I'm currently at my parents house over break from university, so it's up to them. | 19:33 |
| manchicken | I'm gonna run 10 miles, char the flesh of lesser mammals and land-fowl, and then watch trained professionals burn through about two tons worth of various combustible substances. | 19:33 |
| JontheEchidna | haha | 19:34 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 19:34 |
| JontheEchidna | I had leftover pizza and ran 2 miles, if that counts for anything :P | 19:34 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: does the US have a day where they show their military might? | 19:34 |
| manchicken | shadeslayer: That's every day. | 19:35 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: not really, unless you count our adventures in the middle east | 19:35 |
| shadeslayer | ^the answer I was hoping for, but not the one I needed right now ;) | 19:35 |
| manchicken | Which answer did you need? | 19:36 |
| manchicken | We're all about meeting needs around here. | 19:37 |
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| shadeslayer | well, India has a 'Republic Day' which feels like a big ego boost for everyone -.- | 19:37 |
| shadeslayer | which is different from our Independence day | 19:37 |
| yofel | still better than our German day of unification that has the emotional substance of a pencil | 19:38 |
| shadeslayer | aha, apparently you guys have a Constitution day | 19:38 |
| shadeslayer | which is equivalent to our Republic Day | 19:38 |
| manchicken | shadeslayer: We've got several days like this: memorial day, veteran's day, labor day (which has been hijacked as a patriotic holiday somehow), independence day, presidents' day, Lincoln's birthday, and then there are religious holidays which always morph into "God bless the USA." :) | 19:39 |
| shadeslayer | hah | 19:40 |
| manchicken | shadeslayer: So, when I say "every day," I'm not entirely sure I'm exaggerating. The only difference is that in the US, we don't get off work for them :) | 19:40 |
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| shadeslayer | manchicken: if it helps, I'm reasonably certain that almost every day in India has some sort of regional religious day | 19:40 |
| shadeslayer | heck, my state has a Haryana Day | 19:40 |
| shadeslayer | found that the hard way | 19:40 |
| manchicken | Heh | 19:40 |
| shadeslayer | Haryana = name of my state | 19:41 |
| manchicken | I have folks at work who are fasting one day a week every day of the week. | 19:41 |
| manchicken | Makes a simple question like "does anybody want to go for lunch?" much more complicated than it needs to be :) | 19:41 |
| shadeslayer | ah yes | 19:41 |
| manchicken | I think Tuesday is my favorite, it turns out there's a god in the form of a monkey which is fasted for on Tuesday. :) | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | Hanuman | 19:44 |
| manchicken | I like monkeys. | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | manchicken: yeah, alot of people do that | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | for eg. I can't get a haircut on a Saturday | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | can't buy new metal things on a Saturday | 19:45 |
| manchicken | The question is whether there is a chicken god. | 19:45 |
| shadeslayer | can't eat eggs on Tuesdays | 19:45 |
| shadeslayer | and there are probably a bazillion other things that you can't do for certain days of the week :P | 19:45 |
| manchicken | Wow | 19:45 |
| manchicken | That's impressive that people can remember that stuff... it sounds very complicated. | 19:45 |
| manchicken | Is there a chicken god though? | 19:46 |
| shadeslayer | hah no | 19:46 |
| shadeslayer | manchicken: most hindu's are Vegetarian | 19:46 |
| shadeslayer | though that is a really interesting question | 19:46 |
| shadeslayer | for eg. hindu's can't eat beef because we worship cows | 19:47 |
| shadeslayer | I wonder if we can't eat chicken because someone worshipped chickens | 19:47 |
| shadeslayer | TBH I've never understood why hinduism is such a predominatly vegetarian society | 19:49 |
| shadeslayer | manchicken: http://i.imgur.com/VclU4ow.jpg | 20:15 |
| manchicken | shadeslayer: LMFAO | 20:17 |
| manchicken | shadeslayer: That's hilarious. Almost as funny as when they say the same thing about Jesus. | 20:17 |
| manchicken | Actually, it's funnier, since so many of them were taught the whole 1776 story in school. | 20:17 |
| shadeslayer | manchicken: something is going wrong | 20:18 |
| shadeslayer | horribly horribly wrong | 20:18 |
| manchicken | shadeslayer: The date is one of the few things they teach American children in social studies which is actually reliable. | 20:18 |
| manchicken | (though July 4th wasn't the actual date) | 20:19 |
| shadeslayer | but you got independence from them Aliens today! | 20:19 |
| manchicken | Heck yeah | 20:20 |
| shadeslayer | Independence Day was the first movie I watched on DVD :D | 20:23 |
| shadeslayer | or rather CD's | 20:23 |
| shadeslayer | the player had a 3 CD loading drive @_@ | 20:23 |
| shadeslayer | the second one was titanic | 20:23 |
| manchicken | JontheEchidna: I got the chroot set up and I have libqapt set up. Yay, this sources setup looks like it'll save me a bunch of time. | 20:28 |
| shadeslayer | lxc ftw | 20:29 |
| shadeslayer | manchicken: y u no lxc | 20:29 |
| manchicken | lxc? | 20:29 |
| shadeslayer | linux containers | 20:30 |
| manchicken | Virtual machine? | 20:30 |
| shadeslayer | heh no | 20:30 |
| manchicken | Never set it up before. | 20:30 |
| shadeslayer | chroot on steroids as the man page likes to say | 20:30 |
| manchicken | I don't need steroids :) | 20:30 |
| shadeslayer | manchicken: basically just run : sudo lxc-createsudo lxc-create -n SOME_NAME -t ubuntu -- -r RELEASE | 20:31 |
| shadeslayer | manchicken: and it'll do everything | 20:31 |
| manchicken | Fun. | 20:31 |
| shadeslayer | eh, too many lxc-create calls | 20:31 |
| shadeslayer | sudo lxc-create -n SOME_NAME -t ubuntu -- -r RELEASE | 20:31 |
| shadeslayer | and it caches debs, so you can make more of them super fast | 20:31 |
| manchicken | Nobody tells me these things :) | 20:35 |
| shadeslayer | I just did :P | 20:36 |
| shadeslayer | manchicken: lxc is relatively new I think | 20:37 |
| shadeslayer | atleast I only learnt about it 2-3 months ago | 20:37 |
| manchicken | Meh, I've already got chroot set up. | 20:46 |
| manchicken | Screw it. | 20:46 |
| manchicken | I want to write code, I've been screwing around with environment too long, and I've only got an hour before I have to go run. | 20:46 |
| shadeslayer | manchicken: what do you want to do though? Hack on KDE? | 20:47 |
| manchicken | shadeslayer: I'm hacking on kubuntu-debug-installer... or trying to :) | 20:49 |
| shadeslayer | aha | 20:49 |
| manchicken | Is there a way to make the KDevelop doc browser pop out in its own window? I'm on an 11.6" box here :) | 21:00 |
| shadeslayer | use assistant | 21:01 |
| manchicken | shadeslayer: You are nothing but a well of ridiculously useful information today. | 21:02 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 21:03 |
| * yofel goes generating l10n | 21:04 | |
| yofel | for 4.10.5 | 21:04 |
| yofel | I updated the l10n guide btw. so people actually find the correct branches | 21:05 |
| shadeslayer | yofel++ | 21:08 |
| yofel | *sigh* | 21:09 |
| yofel | I'll be glad when we I don't have to do that for precise anymore, that's still the old l10n packaging | 21:09 |
| yofel | s/we// | 21:09 |
| kubotu | yofel meant: "I'll be glad when I don't have to do that for precise anymore, that's still the old l10n packaging" | 21:09 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: added some things at the bottom, understandable? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide | 21:22 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 21:23 |
| === s1aden is now known as sladen | ||
| manchicken | kDebug() is hard to set up. I'm not sure why it showed up in the dialog one time and not the other. | 21:30 |
| manchicken | Either way, time to go run. I'll see you guys later. | 21:30 |
| yofel | kDebug is controlled by kdebugdialog | 21:30 |
| yofel | run kdebugdialog in krunner and enable what you need | 21:31 |
| yofel | though I'm not so sure how that works for locally compiled stuff | 21:31 |
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| ahoneybun | Riddell: | 23:26 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: hi | 23:31 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: how are you? | 23:31 |
| Riddell | i'm awesome | 23:31 |
| ahoneybun | great | 23:32 |
| ahoneybun | I need some help with partitionmanager | 23:32 |
| ahoneybun | merging it | 23:32 |
| ahoneybun | here is what I get with bzr status http://paste.kde.org/789464/ | 23:33 |
| Riddell | ug, using bzr UDD branches | 23:34 |
| ahoneybun | oh | 23:35 |
| Riddell | I really don't know what all those conflicts are | 23:35 |
| ahoneybun | oh | 23:35 |
| ahoneybun | trial and error then lol | 23:36 |
| Riddell | jings look at this https://merges.ubuntu.com/p/partitionmanager/partitionmanager_1.0.3-2.patch it's got the diff for stuff in the upstream tar | 23:38 |
| Riddell | all you care about is the stuff in debian/ | 23:38 |
| Riddell | that's why UDD was never going to work | 23:38 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: I can take you through it how I'd do it if you want | 23:39 |
| ahoneybun | I'm looking at bzr diff and it shows things to do with the src the cpp files and what not | 23:40 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: yea sure | 23:40 |
| * Riddell starts an ec2 | 23:40 | |
| * ahoneybun starts his PS Vita | 23:43 | |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: ubuntu@ec2-54-227-97-38.compute-1.amazonaws.com | 23:45 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: byobu | 23:45 |
| ahoneybun | busy | 23:46 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: voila | 23:56 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: so I grabbed our version, grabbed debian's version | 23:56 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: merged the changelogs | 23:56 |
| Riddell | then diff -u the two debian directories | 23:56 |
| ahoneybun | oh boy | 23:56 |
| Riddell | reviewed the changelog to see what happened last merge | 23:56 |
| * ahoneybun confused | 23:56 | |
| Riddell | reviewed what's changed since | 23:56 |
| Riddell | and kept anything relevant | 23:56 |
| ahoneybun | well I get that parts | 23:57 |
| ahoneybun | I just pulled the one from lp | 23:57 |
| Riddell | only thing to keep is that man page | 23:57 |
| ahoneybun | still a but | 23:57 |
| ahoneybun | bit confused | 23:58 |
| ahoneybun | so you bzr pulled the version from lp? | 23:58 |
| ahoneybun | and from debian? | 23:58 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: no I just apt-get sourced it | 23:58 |
| Riddell | and for debian I went to http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/partitionmanager | 23:58 |
| ahoneybun | oh that | 23:58 |
| Riddell | and dget the .dsc | 23:58 |
| ahoneybun | wget? | 23:59 |
| Riddell | dget on a .dsc uses wget to download the .dsc, debian.tar.gz and .orig. | 23:59 |
| ahoneybun | so apt-get source partitionmanager ? | 23:59 |
| Riddell | yep (assuming you're on saucy) | 23:59 |
| ahoneybun | nope | 23:59 |
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