[00:22] <yofel> !testers | 4.10.5 is ready for testing in ninjas (raring)
[00:22] <yofel> I only did a dependency check so far
[00:22] <yofel> quantal and precise will follow later
[05:33] <manchicken> Howdy
[06:01] <manchicken> Anybody know where I can find QApt docs (if there are any)?
[06:16] <soee> good morning
[06:16] <valorie> manchicken: http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/introducing-qapt-and-the-muon-package-manager/
[06:16] <valorie> look at the bottom of that for more info
[06:17] <valorie> sorta casual, but better than nothing, right?
[06:22] <manchicken> No doubt.
[06:37] <shrinivasan> hello all
[06:38] <shrini> i installed kubuntu 13.04
[06:44] <shrini> Riddell: I am ready with kubuntu 13.04 
[06:57] <manchicken> Doesn't seem like QApt deals with sources.
[09:24] <shrini> anybody there?
[09:24] <shrini> i am fixing the issue 665632
[09:24] <shrini> how to push the changes to the mainstream?
[09:24] <shrini> Riddell: hello
[09:34] <shadeslayer> shrini: is that in bugs.kde.org or lauchpad?
[09:35] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I'm using a quantal instance, plz don't shut down that one :)
[09:36] <shadeslayer> ( ec2 quantal instance )
[09:38] <shrini> shadeslayer: launchpad
[09:38] <shrini> it is a kubuntu bug - little spell error only
[09:38] <shadeslayer> can you give me a diff
[09:39] <shadeslayer> oh
[09:39] <shadeslayer> I know
[09:39] <shadeslayer> shrini: branch the bzr branch, commit your fix, push it to launchpad and ask for a merge
[09:39] <shadeslayer> please use bzr commit --fixes lp:665632 when committing
[09:44] <shrini> shadeslayer: how to send you the diff?
[09:45] <shrini> ok
[09:45] <shrini> will do the commit
[09:45] <shrini> i committed in my junk folder
[09:45] <shrini> https://code.launchpad.net/~shrini/+junk/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu
[09:46] <shrini> what to do now?
[09:46] <shrini> shadeslayer: ^^^
[09:46] <shrini> shadeslayer: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~shrini/+junk/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/revision/64
[09:47] <shrini> this my commit
[09:47] <shrini> shadeslayer: hope you can see the diff there
[09:48] <shadeslayer> sec phone
[09:50] <shrini> shadeslayer: okey
[09:54] <Riddell> bug 665632
[09:54] <shrini> hi Riddell
[09:54] <shrini> yes
[09:54] <shrini> that is what i am working on
[09:55] <shrini> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~shrini/+junk/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/revision/64
[09:55] <Riddell> lovely :)
[09:55] <shadeslayer> shrini: check if https://code.launchpad.net/~shrini/+junk/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu has a link called "Propose merge"
[09:56] <shrini> shadeslayer: no such link
[09:56] <shrini> Do i need to be a project member to apply for merge?
[09:56] <shrini> applied for project
[09:56] <shrini> waiting for project approval
[09:57] <Riddell> ooh agateau back on ubiquity fixing
[09:57] <shadeslayer> I think that's because you have +junk
[09:57] <agateau> Riddell: :)
[09:57] <shadeslayer> plz push to lp:~shrini/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu
[09:57] <shrini> shadeslayer: what to do now?
[09:57] <shrini> ok
[09:57] <shadeslayer> agateau: can you have a look at my merge proposal as well :P
[09:57] <Riddell> agateau: the most serious ubiquity problem is that it doesn't work from the arm images, I'm not sure what that mode is called
[09:58] <shadeslayer> oem?
[09:58] <agateau> shadeslayer: sure, do you have the url?
[09:58] <shadeslayer> agateau: https://code.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/ubiquity/ubiquity/+merge/172045
[09:58] <shrini> shadeslayer: pushing there now
[09:58] <Riddell> shadeslayer: similar but oem mode works fine
[09:58] <shadeslayer> oh
[09:58] <shadeslayer> there's *another* mode? :O
[09:58] <shrini> shadeslayer: why we mention the project name two times?
[09:58] <agateau> Riddell: sounds difficult to debug without proper hardware
[09:59] <agateau> Riddell: or is it doable with qemu
[09:59] <shadeslayer> shrini: it's usually : lp:~username/project/branch_name
[09:59] <shrini> shadeslayer: ok
[09:59]  * agateau is expecting super powerful laptop to be delivered in a few hours, should make those kind of things possible
[09:59] <Riddell> agateau: I'm not sure, xnox any thoughts how to start it up in that mode?
[09:59] <shrini> it seems it is pushing entire code
[09:59] <shrini> why it is not pushing only the changeset?
[09:59] <shadeslayer> because it's a new branch
[10:00] <shrini> i think bazaar works  this way
[10:00] <shrini> ok
[10:00] <shadeslayer> nope, git works the same way
[10:00] <xnox> Riddell: well it's same as boot CD - on the human icon, click Esc, select "Install now"
[10:00] <xnox> aka ubiquity-dm installer
[10:00] <shrini> shadeslayer: is there any page that explains the process of contributing via lp?
[10:00] <shrini> so that i can share to all my friends
[10:01] <shadeslayer> https://help.launchpad.net/Code/QuickStart
[10:02] <shrini> shadeslayer: https://code.launchpad.net/~shrini/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu
[10:03] <shrini> here it is
[10:03] <shrini> it has the text "propose for merging"
[10:03] <shadeslayer> Branch merges
[10:03] <shadeslayer> Propose for merging
[10:03] <shadeslayer> click that
[10:04] <shadeslayer> Just add a small description of the change and hit "propose merge"
[10:04] <Riddell> xnox: hmm that also works fine so must be more fiddly, I'll load up an arm image and look around
[10:04] <shrini> shadeslayer: done
[10:04] <shrini> shadeslayer: :-)
[10:05] <shadeslayer> shrini: did you use --fixes when commiting?
[10:05] <shrini> shadeslayer: yes. i dif
[10:05] <shrini> i did
[10:05] <shadeslayer> awesome
[10:05] <shadeslayer> gah
[10:05] <shadeslayer> why are there so many unmerged revisions
[10:05] <shadeslayer> https://code.launchpad.net/~shrini/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+merge/172992
[10:06] <shadeslayer> shrini: where did you get the code from :S
[10:06] <shadeslayer> and how are you on rev 64 when everyone else is on 564 @_@
[10:06] <shrini> how to check that?
[10:07] <shadeslayer> shrini: where did you get the code from?
[10:07] <shrini> from the project page only
[10:07] <shadeslayer> which one?
[10:07] <shrini> is there any command to show it?
[10:08] <shadeslayer> I think you branched it from here https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/saucy
[10:08] <shadeslayer> which is the wrong repo
[10:08] <shrini> yes
[10:08] <shadeslayer> please branch from lp:ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu
[10:08] <shrini> ok
[10:08] <shrini> shall i start it from scratch?
[10:08] <shadeslayer> change files there, commit, bzr push --overwrite lp:~shrini/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu
[10:09] <shadeslayer> shrini: that, or you could just apply the diff 
[10:09] <shadeslayer> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~shrini/+junk/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/diff/64
[10:09] <shadeslayer> download the diff ^
[10:09] <shadeslayer> then use patch -p1 < /path/to/diff inside the branched folder
[10:13] <shrini> shadeslayer: do we need to run the build scripts?
[10:13] <shadeslayer> build scripts?
[10:13] <shrini> make scripts?
[10:15] <shadeslayer> I have no idea
[10:18] <shrini> ok
[10:18] <shrini> I got the existing repo
[10:18] <shrini> shall i directly change the files? or do I need to create a new branch for fixing this issue?
[10:20] <shadeslayer> huh?
[10:20] <shadeslayer> branch repo -> hack hack hack -> overwrite your personal branch with new repo
[10:21] <shrini> ok
[10:21] <shadeslayer> hmm odd
[10:21] <shadeslayer> yofel: The following packages have been kept back:
[10:21] <shadeslayer>   kdesdk
[10:21] <shadeslayer> for quantal
[10:25] <shrini> shadeslayer: I pushed to lp:~shrini/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu
[10:25] <shrini> shadeslayer: please check it
[10:25] <shrini> shall i ask for merge?
[10:27] <shadeslayer> I don't think it's there
[10:27] <shadeslayer> https://code.launchpad.net/~shrini/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu still says rev 64
[10:28] <shadeslayer> ScottK: Riddell any objections to removing akonadi-facebook from seeds since it's in kdepim-runtime now?
[10:28] <shrini> bzr push --overwrite lp:~shrini/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu
[10:28] <shrini> Enter passphrase for key '/home/shrinivasan/.ssh/id_rsa': 
[10:28] <shrini> Pushed up to revision 64.                                                                                
[10:28] <shadeslayer> wrong repo much?
[10:28] <shrini> i did overwrite as you said already
[10:28] <shadeslayer> it should push rev 565
[10:28] <shadeslayer> ubottu: oh shut up
[10:29] <shrini> haaha
[10:29] <shrini> shadeslayer: bzr branch lp:ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu trunk
[10:29] <shrini> this is the command i used to get the code from lp
[10:29] <shadeslayer> wrong branch much?
[10:30] <shrini> OMG
[10:30] <shadeslayer> its lp:ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu
[10:30] <shrini> super
[10:30] <shrini> will do again
[10:31] <shrini> bzr branch lp:ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu trunk
[10:31] <shrini> running this command now
[10:31] <shrini> how to get the proper repo for any project?
[10:31] <shadeslayer> trunk not needed, but whatever
[10:32] <shadeslayer> each one is different
[10:32] <shadeslayer> but usually it's lp:project-name
[10:32] <shadeslayer> though not always
[10:32] <shrini> ok
[10:32] <shadeslayer> for eg all kde / qt packaging is in lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/whatever
[10:33] <yofel> shadeslayer: that's staging upgrade test?
[10:34] <shadeslayer> yofel: yeo
[10:34] <shadeslayer> yep
[10:34] <shadeslayer> still upgrading though
[10:34] <yofel> checking
[10:34] <shrini> ok
[10:34] <shadeslayer> :S
[10:34] <shadeslayer> yofel: you have so many ssh keys
[10:35] <shadeslayer> https://launchpad.net/~yofel
[10:35] <yofel> lol, I have one per system ^^
[10:35] <yofel> well, hardware system
[10:36] <shadeslayer> heh
[10:36] <shadeslayer> so which one should I copy to authorized_keys
[10:36] <yofel> the t510 one
[10:37] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[10:37] <shadeslayer> oh well
[10:37] <shadeslayer> launchpad just gave me all of them
[10:38] <shadeslayer> yofel: ubuntu@ec2-54-227-86-93.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[10:38] <shadeslayer> huh
[10:38] <shadeslayer>  kdesdk : Depends: kdesdk-strigi-plugins (>= 4:4.10.80) but 4:4.10.4-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu12.10~ppa1 is to be installed
[10:39] <yofel> uhm, can it be that you didn't backport meta-kde?
[10:39] <shadeslayer> I did
[10:39] <yofel> er no
[10:39] <yofel> yeah, otherwise that wouldn't happen
[10:40] <shadeslayer> hm
[10:40] <yofel> it wasn't backported for some reason
[10:41] <shadeslayer> yeah
[10:41] <shadeslayer> I don't see it in raring as well
[10:42] <shadeslayer> Riddell: how do you vnc into the machine?
[10:43] <yofel> btw. please also backport amarok from the beta ppa and upload a digikam rebuild as I did for raring
[10:44]  * yofel should've written that down somewhere
[10:44] <shadeslayer> kay
[10:44] <Riddell> shadeslayer: start vncserver
[10:44] <shadeslayer> oh, that's it? awesome
[10:44] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes go ahead and remove akonadi-facebook from the seeds
[10:45] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[10:46] <yofel> !testers | 4.10.5 is ready for testing in ninjas (raring)
[10:46] <yofel> I only did a dependency check so far
[10:46] <yofel> (as I got 0 feedback so far)
[10:47] <shadeslayer> yofel: will check on ec2 in a bit
[10:47] <yofel> thanks
[10:50] <shadeslayer> :(
[10:50] <BluesKaj> yofel, I'll be logging on to raring later today , I'll upgrade then 
[10:50] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I can't start it for some reason
[10:51] <shadeslayer> oh
[10:51] <Riddell> shadeslayer: start what?
[10:51] <Riddell> shadeslayer: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed?
[10:52] <shrini> shadeslayer: https://code.launchpad.net/~shrini/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/fix-for-665632
[10:52] <shadeslayer> yep, was using the wrong display number
[10:52] <shrini> shadeslayer: got the rev no 565 now
[10:52] <shrini> :-)
[10:53] <lordievader> yofel: I can test this afternoon.
[10:53] <lordievader> 4.10.5 on Raring that is.
[10:53] <yofel> ok, thanks folks
[10:54] <shadeslayer> eh
[10:54] <shadeslayer> channel 3: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused
[10:56]  * shrini going for a coffee
[10:56] <shrini> shadeslayer: propsed for merge
[11:00] <shadeslayer> oh
[11:00] <shadeslayer> Riddell: do I have to ask Amazon to open ports or sth?
[11:07] <soee> yofel, i can test it on pc here @ work 
[11:13] <soee> yofel, 4.10.5 is in your ninja ppa ?
[11:16] <shadeslayer> grrr
[11:16] <shadeslayer> Riddell: seriously, how does one get this to work -.-
[11:18] <soee> can someone take a look: http://pastebin.com/JBzQeryj
[11:18] <shadeslayer> gah
[11:18] <soee> should i care about apport-kde and kdelibs5-plugins ?
[11:19] <shadeslayer> silly ports
[11:19] <shadeslayer> hm
[11:19] <shadeslayer> soee: what happens when you type : sudo apt-get install kdelibs5-plugins 
[11:20] <soee> shadeslayer, http://pastebin.com/3VC2RrcF
[11:20] <shadeslayer> yofel: are you backporting kdesdk-strigi-plugins ?
[11:23] <shadeslayer> ruh roh
[11:23] <shadeslayer> soee: that doesn't look good
[11:23] <soee> :<
[11:24] <shrini> shadeslayer: hi. is there any update for me?
[11:26] <shadeslayer> shrini: please discard https://code.launchpad.net/~shrini/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+merge/172992
[11:26] <shadeslayer> everything else looks good in the new MR
[11:27] <shadeslayer> soee: what does apt-cache policy
[11:27] <shadeslayer> erm
[11:27] <shadeslayer> soee: what does apt-cache policy kdelibs5-plugins say
[11:27] <shrini> shadeslayer: I deleted that merge request
[11:28] <shadeslayer> thx
[11:28] <soee> shadeslayer, http://pastebin.com/s95D9SM7
[11:29] <shadeslayer> wait what
[11:29] <shadeslayer> soee: did you add the ninjas PPA?
[11:29] <shrini> thanks for the support
[11:29] <soee> shadeslayer, yes the one belongs to yofel
[11:29] <shadeslayer> did you apt-get update?
[11:30] <soee> yes
[11:30] <shadeslayer> because it should say ninjas there somewhere
[11:30] <shadeslayer> but it does not
[11:30] <shrini> shadeslayer: who will merge this?
[11:30] <soee> hm wait it looks like its not active
[11:31] <shadeslayer> shrini: someone who has time and commit access
[11:31] <shrini> shadeslayer: awesome
[11:31] <shrini> thanks for the patience
[11:31] <shrini> I will blog the process i followed
[11:31] <shrini> so that me and others can follow
[11:32] <soee> shadeslayer, ok now only apport-kde is stopped
[11:32] <soee> also i have info about missign pub key for this ppa
[11:33] <soee> right ?
[11:33] <shadeslayer> yeah, though you can add the sig
[11:33] <shadeslayer> just a second
[11:33] <shadeslayer> testing it on ec2
[11:35] <shadeslayer> soee: sudo gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv b2c30b9a0945a8e2
[11:36] <soee> shadeslayer, ok now gpg warning is missing
[11:37] <soee> and apport-kde stopped, can i do dist-upgrade ?
[11:38] <shadeslayer> what does sudo apt-get install apport-kde say?
[11:39] <shadeslayer> soee: ^^
[11:40] <soee> shadeslayer, http://pastebin.com/vmjjRUvM
[11:41] <shadeslayer> okay, seems safe
[11:41] <shadeslayer> I don't think it's a KDE upgrade issue
[11:41] <soee> so ignore this one do upgrade
[11:41] <Riddell> shadeslayer: still stuck on vnc?
[11:42] <shadeslayer> Riddell: nah
[11:42] <shadeslayer> I just didn't know how to do things
[11:42] <Riddell> shadeslayer: get it to work?
[11:42] <shadeslayer> yep
[11:42] <Riddell> lovely
[11:42] <shadeslayer> just need to backport one package
[11:42] <shadeslayer> and then 4.10.90 for quantal will be ready
[11:46] <shadeslayer> !info kdesdk-strigi-plugins saucy
[11:47] <shadeslayer> why that is super odd then
[11:53] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what's off?
[11:53] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what's odd?
[11:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: kdesdk-strigi-analyzers wasn't backported to quantal
[11:53] <shadeslayer> not sure why
[11:54]  * shadeslayer listens to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMnrl0tmd3k
[11:55] <Riddell> Turnabout Jazz Soul - Track 8 - Godot - The Fragrance of Dark Coffee   now I want dark coffee
[11:55] <shadeslayer> hah
[11:56] <apachelogger> kubotu: order coffee for Riddell
[11:56]  * kubotu slides a cup of steamy hot coffee down the bar to Riddell.
[12:01] <soee> yofel, upgrade 4.10.4 => 4.10.5 done, no errors
[12:01] <soee> (raring)
[12:17] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can you try and click something in systemsettings using vnc over ubuntu@ec2-67-202-12-197.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[12:17] <shadeslayer> Riddell: password is aa55aa
[12:17] <shadeslayer> port 5901
[12:18] <shadeslayer> can't click a single thing
[12:18] <agateau> Riddell: on the topic of ubiquity, while I am at it, any particular bug you would like me to look at?
[12:42] <Riddell> agateau: slideshow in oem mode?
[12:42] <Riddell> it doesn't work
[12:42] <Riddell> doesn't show at all
[12:42] <Riddell> so probably that's something needing to keep it installed rather than code in ubiquity
[12:43] <agateau> Riddell: didn't we investigate this before raring release?
[12:43] <agateau> iirc it was a missing package
[12:43] <Riddell> agateau: yeah, and the fix I thought would work didn't seem to work
[12:43] <agateau> so it's your juridiction :)
[12:43] <Riddell> but yeah it is mine
[12:44] <Riddell> agateau: there's stuff like adding a wifi setup page as features
[12:44] <Riddell> agateau: there's a wiki page xnox has somewhere which would be nice to have screenshots on
[12:44] <shrini> shadeslayer: added 3 more similar modifications
[12:44] <shrini> thanks for your guidance shadeslayer
[12:44] <shadeslayer> cool
[12:45] <agateau> Riddell: regarding wifi, didn't you start it shadeslayer?
[12:45] <shadeslayer> nope
[12:45] <shadeslayer> did not start hacking on wifi
[12:45] <Riddell> shadeslayer started the take a photo page
[12:45] <shadeslayer> and then the gtk installer dropped
[12:45] <shadeslayer> +it
[12:45] <Riddell> but wasn't sure if we wanted it, I don't know if gtk side has that one
[12:45] <shadeslayer> so I lost the motivation to merge it
[12:46] <Riddell> bug 1195255
[12:46] <Riddell> also not really a fix in ubiquity
[12:46] <Riddell> agateau: were you going to look at the theme to make it a bit less like suse?
[12:47] <agateau> shadeslayer: oh ok
[12:47] <Riddell> bug 1164239  is the arm issue
[12:47] <agateau> Riddell: yes, will probably look at this as well
[12:47] <agateau> shadeslayer: oh ok, I was confused
[12:48] <Riddell> bug 1171099  is the thing where we need it to run some reconfiguration before rebooting, that might be an ubiquity issue
[13:05] <yofel> shadeslayer: wrt VNC, are you seeing kde 320459 maybe?
[13:06] <shadeslayer> yofel: nope, just wasn't connecting to the right port
[13:06] <shadeslayer> vnc started on vnc :4
[13:06] <shadeslayer> I kept trying on :1
[13:06] <yofel> I meant the clicking in systemsettings
[13:06] <shadeslayer> ah]
[13:06] <shadeslayer> yes
[13:06] <shadeslayer> seems like it]
[13:07] <yofel> :/
[13:07] <shadeslayer> I canc click and open apps
[13:07] <shadeslayer> yofel: fwiw 4.10.5 upgrade went smooth
[13:07] <yofel> yeah, the window borders are usable, the window contents aren't
[13:07] <shadeslayer> yofel: btw afiestas_ is proposing http://community.kde.org/KDE_Core/ReleasesProposal
[13:07] <yofel> looking
[13:09] <yofel> this is... interesting
[13:12] <BluesKaj> yofel, I have , 4.10.90 on my raring install ...seems fine so far
[13:14] <yofel> shadeslayer: hm, I'm a bit worried about that schedule wrt. 14.04, though we'll probably be able to shove in 4.13.2 just before final freeze
[13:14] <yofel> the shorter support timeframe is also something worrysome
[13:15] <shadeslayer> yofel: the .4 and .5 releases are optional
[13:15] <shadeslayer> and not completely eliminated
[13:15] <shadeslayer> if someone backports fixes, then we'll get .4 and .5
[13:15] <yofel> true
[13:16] <shrini>  Riddell: shadeslayer: http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2013/07/04/how-did-i-fix-a-bug-in-kubuntu-installer/
[13:16] <shrini> blogged my expereence there
[13:16] <shrini> thanks for your guidence
[13:17] <shadeslayer> cool :)
[13:17] <shadeslayer> shrini: though you don't need to branch another branch
[13:17] <shadeslayer> once you branch it to trunk
[13:17] <shadeslayer> you can just edit the files in trunk
[13:17] <Riddell> shrini: cool, I might reblog that so it gets onto planet ubuntu
[13:17] <shadeslayer> commit
[13:18] <shadeslayer> and bzr push it to your branch on lp
[13:18] <shadeslayer> anyway, gtg
[13:18] <shadeslayer> yofel: Did I mention 4.10.5 is fine?
[13:18] <yofel> shadeslayer: yes you did
[13:18] <yofel> btw
[13:18] <shrini> Riddell: awesome
[13:18] <shadeslayer> cool
[13:18] <shrini> Riddell: thanks a lot
[13:18] <yofel> shadeslayer: where did you get that proposal from?
[13:18] <shrini> read it once
[13:19] <yofel> shadeslayer: and thanks for testing ;)
[13:19] <shrini> and add comment in the blog if it needs any fix
[13:20] <shadeslayer> yofel: just something that was tossed around in another channel, thought it'd be good to get more eyes on it from a distro PoV
[13:20] <yofel> ok, thanks
[13:21] <yofel> oh
 http://download.kde.org/unstable/amarok/2.7.90/src/amarok-2.7.90.tar.bz2.mirrorlist we can publicly release as soon as mirrors show up. The release notes still need some love thought
[13:21] <shadeslayer> cool
[13:22] <shadeslayer> yofel: btw have you ever thought about putting things in kubuntu-ppa/backports in ubuntu backports?
[13:22] <yofel> kubotu: newversion amarok 2.7.90 http://download.kde.org/unstable/amarok/2.7.90/src/amarok-2.7.90.tar.bz2.mirrorlist
[13:22] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1197804
[13:22] <smartboyhw> We have new Amarok!
[13:23] <smartboyhw> \o/
[13:23] <Riddell> my day is complete :)
[13:23]  * shadeslayer nominates smartboyhw to package it since he's so excited
[13:23] <smartboyhw> Give me an hour to whoosh out two guests and take a shower.
[13:23] <yofel> shadeslayer: specific applications would be possible, e.g. kdevelop, amarok, possibly some specific digikam versions
[13:24] <shadeslayer> nah, I was talking about SC
[13:24] <Riddell> smartboyhw: best to take gossip about your threesomes to -offtopic :)
[13:24] <yofel> the whole KDE SC would be impossible as the official backports require an rdep check
[13:24] <smartboyhw> Riddell, threesomes!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!?!?
[13:24] <yofel> enjoy
[13:25] <shadeslayer> bah :|
[13:25] <yofel> we currently do that too, but very limited to our default or common kde apps
[13:27] <yofel> shadeslayer: how's 4.10.90 Q right now? Do you want to finish that?
[13:27] <shadeslayer> yofel: it's done, d_ed promised to test
[13:27] <shadeslayer> though another test won't hurt :)
[13:27] <yofel> k, from what I see amarok and digikam are missing. I'll do those later when I have time
[13:28]  * yofel goes and does write that on the pad
[13:28] <shadeslayer> need to backport precise then
[13:29] <yofel> that'll be... fun
[13:30] <shadeslayer> :P
[13:30] <shadeslayer> yofel: shouldn't be too much of an issue I think
[13:30] <yofel> the things is...: boost
[13:30] <shadeslayer> because I checked alot of the deps using rmadison and they were good enough for precuse
[13:30] <yofel> but lets see what happens
[13:30]  * smartboyhw shuts down so the computer can rest, been on for 12 hours to test XMir.
[13:31] <yofel> oh, how did it work for you?
[13:31] <smartboyhw> Fairly crap, even on Unity I get two mouse pointers
[13:31] <yofel> lol
[13:31] <shadeslayer> I think that's a feature
[13:31] <shadeslayer> atleast I read about the 2 pointer thing in some release note document
[13:31] <yofel> sure, just like I had no mouse movement anymore :P
[13:31] <yofel> less movement distraction for the user
[13:31] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, srsly/
[13:32] <shadeslayer> :/
[13:32] <shadeslayer> I think the document said that the second moust cursor is stationary on the top left
[13:32] <yofel> oh that, yeah
[13:32] <yofel> that's freakin' annoying. But that's the current Mir watermark
[13:33] <yofel> better than nothing I guess
[13:33] <shadeslayer> 'watermark'
[13:35] <apachelogger> can't they do a proper wartermark :P
[13:36] <apachelogger> shouldn't it be like simple? pushing the saturation of some predefined pixels up by one I'd imagine
[13:36] <yofel> there's supposed to be a proper one soon
[13:36] <apachelogger> kk
[13:37] <apachelogger> to me it just seems like getting two mouse cursors is more work than having a static pixel color value manipulation :P
[13:38] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I don't think it's 2 mouse cursors
[13:38] <shadeslayer> more like one cursor + a static image or sth
[13:38] <yofel> it's a cursor icon in the top-left corner
[13:49] <Riddell> "Subject: Kubuntu added you on Google+"  I have no idea what that means
[13:49] <Riddell> is there a user account called Kubuntu?
[13:52] <yofel> yeah, the one that's been there for quite a while already. Before they invented communities
[13:52] <popey> looks like someone made one, yes https://plus.google.com/u/0/107577785796696065138/posts
[13:52] <popey> should be a page not a person
[14:05] <apachelogger> ah dbusmenu autoresolved \o/
[14:05]  * apachelogger retriggers frameworks
[14:05] <shadeslayer> hurray
[14:05] <smartboyhw> Guys, where's the bug number for amarok again?
[14:06] <shadeslayer> 1197804
[14:06] <smartboyhw> Great, but let me update packages first
[14:07] <smartboyhw> Bug 1197804
[14:07] <apachelogger> with a bit of luck kdelibs should be building again and this time without qt4 pieces
[14:12] <smartboyhw> Hmm, a new beta version. This doesn't sound good.
[14:14] <smartboyhw> Oh 4.10.4 testing already?
[14:14] <smartboyhw> s/4.10.4/4.10.5/
[14:14] <kubotu> smartboyhw meant: "Oh 4.10.5 testing already?"
[14:26] <smartboyhw> Hmm, how to deal with this patch?
[14:26] <smartboyhw> The code has changed in CMakeLists.txt
[14:26] <smartboyhw> so the patch can't apply.
[14:28] <smartboyhw> Actually, it was missing one line of code that was supposed to be - ed
[14:33] <smartboyhw> Nobody?
[14:41] <yofel> which one?
[14:47] <smartboyhw> yofel, um, debian_disable_qtscriptbindings_check_fix
[14:47] <smartboyhw> .diff
[14:48] <smartboyhw> Now, the MySQL one is even more interesting
[14:48] <smartboyhw> There's a new thing called HINTS
[14:52] <tester56> hi, how to set qt4 to default instead of qt5 ?
[14:52] <smartboyhw> tester56, for what?
[14:53] <smartboyhw> I mean, you don't install qt4-default?
[14:54] <tester56> no because it removes ubuntu-sdk
[14:54] <smartboyhw> tester56, ofc
[14:55] <tester56> is there a config file somewhere where i could choose the default one ?
[14:55]  * smartboyhw doesn't know
[14:55] <yofel> smartboyhw:  debian_disable_qtscriptbindings_check_fix, that was splitted to 2 locations in CMakeLists.txt, so you'll have to renew the patch
[14:55]  * yofel gone, bbl
[14:56] <smartboyhw> tester56, well but if you set qt4 as default, ubuntu-sdk wouldn't work anyway
[14:56] <smartboyhw> Since ubuntu-sdk requires Qt5
[14:56] <tester56> thing is : ubuntu sdk doesn't find qt5 anyway ... i have to manually point to qt5 ... 
[14:59] <tester56> damn it, ubuntu sdk depends on qt5-default, despite this qtcreator sets qt4 default (facepalm)
[15:39] <ScottK> shadeslayer: No.
[15:39] <ScottK> Please do.
[15:40] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Also, don't forget to file a package removal bug and do a kubuntu-meta upload.
[15:44] <manchicken> Okay, dumb question: when in KDE land, why is « std::cerr << "somestringhere" » not printing to stderr?
[15:46] <manchicken> apachelogger: We need to start using the latest QApt, or at least backport their changes in.
[15:47] <manchicken> apachelogger: https://projects.kde.org/news/226
[15:47] <smartboyhw> Well, I thought JontheEchidna was responsible for packaging it...
[15:48] <manchicken> I can code this stuff myself.... or I can use the thing that Jonathan Thomas coded.
[15:48] <manchicken> Very possible.
[15:48] <ScottK> Jonathan is usually on IRC.
[15:48] <manchicken> Don't see him.
[15:48] <ScottK> No, not ATM or yesterda.
[15:48] <ScottK> y
[15:49] <ScottK> He may be on vacation for the 4th.
[15:49] <manchicken> I was about to go and code something to swim in sources files.
[15:49] <manchicken> This is vacation, is it not?
[15:49] <smartboyhw> manchicken, you don't *code* the packaging:P (except debian/rules and patches)
[15:49] <manchicken> smartboyhw: I wasn't packaging. I'm also not talking about something Jonathan is said to have been packaging.
[15:50] <smartboyhw> manchicken, you mean, to depend on it?
[15:50] <smartboyhw> Well then:P
[15:50] <manchicken> smartboyhw: Unless he's only reporting features he's pulling in.
[15:50] <ScottK> manchicken: For old farts like us, he's young enough to still get forced by $PARENTS to go do stuff.
[15:50] <manchicken> smartboyhw: I'm doing some stuff with kubuntu-debug-installer.
[15:50]  * smartboyhw wonders when JontheEchidna will come back
[15:50] <smartboyhw> manchicken, oh good
[15:50] <smartboyhw> ScottK, :O
[15:50]  * manchicken shudders
[15:51] <manchicken> ScottK: I had kids so I could force them to do the stuff I didn't want to do when I was a kid but had to anyway.
[15:51] <manchicken> All three of 'em. Sucks to be them!
[15:51] <ScottK> manchicken: Of course.
[15:53] <Riddell> oh it's an important US holiday today isn't it?
[15:53] <ScottK> It is.
[15:53] <Riddell> happy important US holiday americans
[15:53] <ScottK> Thanks.
[15:53]  * Riddell suspect ScottK isn't in holiday mode
[15:54] <Riddell> manchicken: use KDebug() << "foo";
[15:54] <ScottK> Sure am.  I just woke up 20 minutes ago.  Sleeping in until 11:30 is definitely holiday mode.
[15:54] <manchicken> Riddell: I knew it was a dumb question :)
[15:55] <manchicken> Riddell: It's blow sh?t up day.
[15:55] <Riddell> manchicken: what are you working on?
[15:55] <manchicken> Riddell: The day where we celebrate blowing various items up, be they industrial, agricultural, or household items.
[15:55] <manchicken> Riddell: kubuntu-debug-installer, trying to figure out how to get the new sources added and then do update and all that jazz.
[15:56] <Riddell> dear NSA/GCHQ, please note that manchicken does not speak for us in his terrorist tendencies
[15:56] <manchicken> Riddell: I just discovered that there's an alpha version of QApt which may do the sources portion of this already.
[15:56] <manchicken> Riddell: blowing sh?t up != blowing people up.
[15:56] <ScottK> manchicken: You can assume that'll land eventually.  Don't redo those bits.
[15:56] <manchicken> Riddell: Inanimate objects and invertibrates only.
[15:58] <manchicken> I must say, kdevelop has matured quite a bit. The doc viewer is still difficult to work with, but I am very impressed with the program overall.
[15:58] <Riddell> manchicken: I know some anarchist vegans who would not take kindly to that
[15:59] <manchicken> Riddell: That's the lovely thing about human beings, if you try hard enough you can irritate or offend at least a significant number of them in a single act.
[15:59] <manchicken> Riddell: I was a marxist vegan for four years... is that not close enough?
[16:00]  * Riddell tries to picture manchicken as a marxist vegan and fails
[16:01] <manchicken> I might just start using my SmashRun page as my "homepage" whenever a web form asks for one.
[16:01] <manchicken> Riddell: Would you believe I've already run over 530 miles for the year/
[16:02] <manchicken> Today is the last day of my 39-day run streak.
[16:02] <manchicken> Ooh, yesterday's run put me at 540.
[16:03] <shadeslayer> ScottK: package already removed
[16:03] <shadeslayer> and 'No' >
[16:03] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Thanks
[16:03] <shadeslayer> ?
[16:04] <ScottK> For taking care of/checking on the removal
[16:05] <shadeslayer> no I meant, what was the 'No' for :P
[16:05] <shadeslayer> will upload kubuntu-meta tomorrow
[16:05] <ScottK> OK
[16:07] <manchicken> QApt has many deps for building.
[16:07] <manchicken> At least the version in git.
[16:19] <manchicken> Yay! I have the deps installed. Finally
[16:23] <manchicken> Argh, I need to chroot all of this, don't I?
[16:25] <manchicken> I am gonna go buy my kid a bike instead.
[16:25] <manchicken> That sounds like an excellent use of time.
[17:09] <tester56> yofel: As you are on nvidia-319: Have you experienced kwin using much more cpu in 4.11 than the cycles before?
[17:19] <yofel> tester56: I didn't particulary notice it, but you're right. With vsync it uses ~6% CPU, without ~1% CPU on indle
[17:19] <yofel> *idle
[17:19] <tester56> yeah vsync is pretty bad in 4.11
[17:20] <tester56> only disabling solves the problem
[17:20] <tester56> compiled kwin with buffer_age today ...
[17:20] <tester56> does not seems much better eihter :-(
[17:21] <tester56> although it should be ...
[17:21] <tester56> it seems the cpu has to do work the gpu should be doing ...
[17:27] <lordievader> yofel: Wanted to test KDE 4.10.5 on Raring, but after a dist-upgrade I see I have 4.10.90, that is not a code name for 4.10.5 is it?
[17:27] <yofel> not quite :D
[17:28] <yofel> well, others tried it already so it's fine
[17:28] <lordievader> Ah oke.
[17:28] <ScottK> lordievader: You have the wrong PPA enabled then.
[17:30] <lordievader> ScottK: kubuntu-ninjas/ppa/ubuntu a yofel private ppa.
[17:31] <yofel> wrong release? ninjas for raring has 4.10.5
[17:31] <yofel> maybe you got it from staging or beta
[17:31] <lordievader> Raring main, I'll check if proposed is enabled.
[17:32] <lordievader> Nope pre-released isn't enabled.
[17:33] <yofel> lordievader: apt-cache policy kde-runtime please
[17:34] <lordievader> yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5844268/ Hmm there is some kubuntu beta ppa enabled it seems.
[17:35] <snele_> I can test 4.10.5 for precise if/when it is available
[17:42] <manchicken> There's gotta be a list of repo mirrors for 13.10 somewhere... wtf...
[17:44] <yofel> manchicken: list of official mirrors: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[17:59] <jabberwocky_> Kubuntu 13.10 is running without any problems here, pleasant experience. Good job guys!
[18:00]  * jabberwocky_ installed 13.10 to test wayland multiseat setup (not multi-input shown as multiseat on phoronix and reposted all over the internet)
[18:08] <manchicken> It's been a while since I've configured a chroot.
[18:09] <manchicken> It's a lot less troublesome than I remember.
[18:47] <soee> muon works on arch ?
[18:50] <manchicken> soee: ArchLinux?
[18:51] <ScottK> No idea.  You should ask on some Arch related place.
[18:51] <ScottK> They've got their own package management system, AIUI, so it'd be surprising.
[18:51] <soee> manchicken, yes
[18:51] <manchicken> Why would an apt package manager work on a pacman system?
[19:05] <ScottK> You can use yum to install rpms on .deb systems, so who knows.
[19:08] <manchicken> I would be particularly surprised.
[19:10] <manchicken> This would be more like yum working with deb repos.
[19:11] <ScottK> Right.
[19:14] <manchicken> Are we okay if I make this change to kubuntu-debug-installer depend on the new version of QApt?
[19:18] <yofel> 2.0.65? That's the version we have in the dev release already
[19:18] <yofel> so that's perfectly fine
[19:22] <manchicken> Naw
[19:22] <manchicken> 2.1
[19:23] <manchicken> No, I'm wrong
[19:23] <manchicken> No, I'm not wrong: 2.1: (as of 2.1 alpha)
[19:23] <manchicken> That's what the changelog says.
[19:23] <ScottK> qt4-x11 4.8.5 is in Debian, so it could use a merge.
[19:24] <ScottK> manchicken: Did you look at what's in saucy?  It may be there already, but if not, it's definitely planned for this cycle, so it's safe to assume it'll be there.
[19:24] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Heya.
[19:24] <manchicken> 2.0.65
[19:24] <ScottK> manchicken: ^^^
[19:24] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: hi
[19:25] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: manchicken is working on the kubuntu-debug installer and he's trying to see what qapt features will be in saucy.
[19:25] <ScottK> manchicken: ^^^ there's your man.  Discuss.
[19:25] <manchicken> Version: 2.0.65-0ubuntu1
[19:26] <manchicken> JontheEchidna: From the ChangeLog, it looks like the sources list functionality is supported in the latest beta.
[19:26] <manchicken> Which could save time on developing this feature.
[19:27] <JontheEchidna> manchicken: Yes, that should be mostly feature complete at this point.
[19:27] <manchicken> JontheEchidna: Do you think this is going to be in 13.10?
[19:27] <JontheEchidna> manchicken: yup, definitely
[19:28] <manchicken> Sweet.
[19:28] <manchicken> Can I code against your git repo for now?
[19:29] <JontheEchidna> manchicken: Sure. The API shouldn't change too drastically I don't think. In fact, if you have any suggestions API-wise I'd be glad to hear them.
[19:30] <manchicken> Sweet.
[19:30] <manchicken> That invitation may result in meddling. Just warning ya :)
[19:30] <JontheEchidna> hehe
[19:30] <manchicken> I'm still setting up my chroot.
[19:31] <manchicken> My 1.5mbps connection can't really handle this.
[19:31] <manchicken> I ordered faster service last night, but it won't be here until Tuesday.
[19:31] <JontheEchidna> I hear ya. The connection where I am is a 3 mbps. (They kindly doubled it for free a couple months back)
[19:32] <JontheEchidna> still a bit pitiful compared to the 20 mbps I get at my apartment though
[19:32] <manchicken> They keep telling me know when I ask.
[19:32] <manchicken> You in the US?
[19:32] <JontheEchidna> yup
[19:32] <manchicken> I'm in Mahomet, IL. We get a choice between fast and unreliable or slow and rock solid.
[19:32] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: happy independence day :)
[19:32] <manchicken> I've been using the later.
[19:32] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: thanks!
[19:33] <manchicken> JontheEchidna: You gonna blow some stuff up today?
[19:33] <shadeslayer> fireworks all sorted out?:
[19:33] <yofel> happy independence day to all US folks here
[19:33] <yofel> I totally didn't realize that it's the 4th ^^
[19:33] <JontheEchidna> manchicken: dunno. I'm currently at my parents house over break from university, so it's up to them.
[19:33] <manchicken> I'm gonna run 10 miles, char the flesh of lesser mammals and land-fowl, and then watch trained professionals burn through about two tons worth of various combustible substances.
[19:34] <JontheEchidna> haha
[19:34] <shadeslayer> :D
[19:34] <JontheEchidna> I had leftover pizza and ran 2 miles, if that counts for anything :P
[19:34] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: does the US have a day where they show their military might?
[19:35] <manchicken> shadeslayer: That's every day.
[19:35] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: not really, unless you count our adventures in the middle east
[19:35] <shadeslayer> ^the answer I was hoping for, but not the one I needed right now ;)
[19:36] <manchicken> Which answer did you need?
[19:37] <manchicken> We're all about meeting needs around here.
[19:37] <shadeslayer> well, India has a 'Republic Day' which feels like a big ego boost for everyone -.-
[19:37] <shadeslayer> which is different from our Independence day
[19:38] <yofel> still better than our German day of unification that has the emotional substance of a pencil
[19:38] <shadeslayer> aha, apparently you guys have a Constitution day
[19:38] <shadeslayer> which is equivalent to our Republic Day
[19:39] <manchicken> shadeslayer: We've got several days like this: memorial day, veteran's day, labor day (which has been hijacked as a patriotic holiday somehow), independence day, presidents' day, Lincoln's birthday, and then there are religious holidays which always morph into "God bless the USA." :)
[19:40] <shadeslayer> hah
[19:40] <manchicken> shadeslayer: So, when I say "every day," I'm not entirely sure I'm exaggerating. The only difference is that in the US, we don't get off work for them :)
[19:40] <shadeslayer> manchicken: if it helps, I'm reasonably certain that almost every day in India has some sort of regional religious day
[19:40] <shadeslayer> heck, my state has a Haryana Day
[19:40] <shadeslayer> found that the hard way
[19:40] <manchicken> Heh
[19:41] <shadeslayer> Haryana = name of my state
[19:41] <manchicken> I have folks at work who are fasting one day a week every day of the week.
[19:41] <manchicken> Makes a simple question like "does anybody want to go for lunch?" much more complicated than it needs to be :)
[19:41] <shadeslayer> ah yes
[19:44] <manchicken> I think Tuesday is my favorite, it turns out there's a god in the form of a monkey which is fasted for on Tuesday. :)
[19:44] <shadeslayer> Hanuman
[19:44] <manchicken> I like monkeys.
[19:44] <shadeslayer> manchicken: yeah, alot of people do that
[19:44] <shadeslayer> for eg. I can't get a haircut on a Saturday
[19:45] <shadeslayer> can't buy new metal things on a Saturday
[19:45] <manchicken> The question is whether there is a chicken god.
[19:45] <shadeslayer> can't eat eggs on Tuesdays
[19:45] <shadeslayer> and there are probably a bazillion other things that you can't do for certain days of the week :P
[19:45] <manchicken> Wow
[19:45] <manchicken> That's impressive that people can remember that stuff... it sounds very complicated.
[19:46] <manchicken> Is there a chicken god though?
[19:46] <shadeslayer> hah no
[19:46] <shadeslayer> manchicken: most hindu's are Vegetarian
[19:46] <shadeslayer> though that is a really interesting question
[19:47] <shadeslayer> for eg. hindu's can't eat beef because we worship cows
[19:47] <shadeslayer> I wonder if we can't eat chicken because someone worshipped chickens 
[19:49] <shadeslayer> TBH I've never understood why hinduism is such a predominatly vegetarian society
[20:15] <shadeslayer> manchicken: http://i.imgur.com/VclU4ow.jpg
[20:17] <manchicken> shadeslayer: LMFAO
[20:17] <manchicken> shadeslayer: That's hilarious. Almost as funny as when they say the same thing about Jesus.
[20:17] <manchicken> Actually, it's funnier, since so many of them were taught the whole 1776 story in school.
[20:18] <shadeslayer> manchicken: something is going wrong
[20:18] <shadeslayer> horribly horribly wrong
[20:18] <manchicken> shadeslayer: The date is one of the few things they teach American children in social studies which is actually reliable.
[20:19] <manchicken> (though July 4th wasn't the actual date)
[20:19] <shadeslayer> but you got independence from them Aliens today!
[20:20] <manchicken> Heck yeah
[20:23] <shadeslayer> Independence Day was the first movie I watched on DVD :D
[20:23] <shadeslayer> or rather CD's
[20:23] <shadeslayer> the player had a 3 CD loading drive @_@
[20:23] <shadeslayer> the second one was titanic
[20:28] <manchicken> JontheEchidna: I got the chroot set up and I have libqapt set up. Yay, this sources setup looks like it'll save me a bunch of time.
[20:29] <shadeslayer> lxc ftw
[20:29] <shadeslayer> manchicken: y u no lxc
[20:29] <manchicken> lxc?
[20:30] <shadeslayer> linux containers
[20:30] <manchicken> Virtual machine?
[20:30] <shadeslayer> heh no
[20:30] <manchicken> Never set it up before.
[20:30] <shadeslayer> chroot on steroids as the man page likes to say
[20:30] <manchicken> I don't need steroids :)
[20:31] <shadeslayer> manchicken: basically just run : sudo lxc-createsudo lxc-create -n SOME_NAME -t ubuntu -- -r RELEASE     
[20:31] <shadeslayer> manchicken: and it'll do everything
[20:31] <manchicken> Fun.
[20:31] <shadeslayer> eh, too many lxc-create calls
[20:31] <shadeslayer> sudo lxc-create -n SOME_NAME -t ubuntu -- -r RELEASE
[20:31] <shadeslayer> and it caches debs, so you can make more of them super fast
[20:35] <manchicken> Nobody tells me these things :)
[20:36] <shadeslayer> I just did :P
[20:37] <shadeslayer> manchicken: lxc is relatively new I think
[20:37] <shadeslayer> atleast I only learnt about it 2-3 months ago
[20:46] <manchicken> Meh, I've already got chroot set up.
[20:46] <manchicken> Screw it.
[20:46] <manchicken> I want to write code, I've been screwing around with environment too long, and I've only got an hour before I have to go run.
[20:47] <shadeslayer> manchicken: what do you want to do though? Hack on KDE?
[20:49] <manchicken> shadeslayer: I'm hacking on kubuntu-debug-installer... or trying to :)
[20:49] <shadeslayer> aha
[21:00] <manchicken> Is there a way to make the KDevelop doc browser pop out in its own window? I'm on an 11.6" box here :)
[21:01] <shadeslayer> use assistant
[21:02] <manchicken> shadeslayer: You are nothing but a well of ridiculously useful information today.
[21:03] <shadeslayer> heh
[21:04]  * yofel goes generating l10n
[21:04] <yofel> for 4.10.5
[21:05] <yofel> I updated the l10n guide btw. so people actually find the correct branches
[21:08] <shadeslayer> yofel++
[21:09] <yofel> *sigh*
[21:09] <yofel> I'll be glad when we I don't have to do that for precise anymore, that's still the old l10n packaging
[21:09] <yofel> s/we//
[21:09] <kubotu> yofel meant: "I'll be glad when  I don't have to do that for precise anymore, that's still the old l10n packaging"
[21:22] <yofel> shadeslayer: added some things at the bottom, understandable? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide
[21:23] <shadeslayer> yes
[21:30] <manchicken> kDebug() is hard to set up. I'm not sure why it showed up in the dialog one time and not the other.
[21:30] <manchicken> Either way, time to go run. I'll see you guys later.
[21:30] <yofel> kDebug is controlled by kdebugdialog
[21:31] <yofel> run kdebugdialog in krunner and enable what you need
[21:31] <yofel> though I'm not so sure how that works for locally compiled stuff
[23:26] <ahoneybun> Riddell: 
[23:31] <Riddell> ahoneybun: hi
[23:31] <ahoneybun> Riddell: how are you?
[23:31] <Riddell> i'm awesome
[23:32] <ahoneybun> great
[23:32] <ahoneybun> I need some help with partitionmanager
[23:32] <ahoneybun> merging it
[23:33] <ahoneybun> here is what I get with bzr status http://paste.kde.org/789464/
[23:34] <Riddell> ug, using bzr UDD branches
[23:35] <ahoneybun> oh
[23:35] <Riddell> I really don't know what all those conflicts are
[23:35] <ahoneybun> oh
[23:36] <ahoneybun> trial and error then lol
[23:38] <Riddell> jings look at this https://merges.ubuntu.com/p/partitionmanager/partitionmanager_1.0.3-2.patch  it's got the diff for stuff in the upstream tar
[23:38] <Riddell> all you care about is the stuff in debian/
[23:38] <Riddell> that's why UDD was never going to work
[23:39] <Riddell> ahoneybun: I can take you through it how I'd do it if you want
[23:40] <ahoneybun> I'm looking at bzr diff and it shows things to do with the src the cpp files and what not
[23:40] <ahoneybun> Riddell: yea sure
[23:40]  * Riddell starts an ec2
[23:43]  * ahoneybun starts his PS Vita
[23:45] <Riddell> ahoneybun: ubuntu@ec2-54-227-97-38.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[23:45] <Riddell> ahoneybun: byobu
[23:46] <ahoneybun> busy
[23:56] <Riddell> ahoneybun: voila
[23:56] <Riddell> ahoneybun: so I grabbed our version, grabbed debian's version
[23:56] <Riddell> ahoneybun: merged the changelogs
[23:56] <Riddell> then diff -u the two debian directories
[23:56] <ahoneybun> oh boy
[23:56] <Riddell> reviewed the changelog to see what happened last merge
[23:56]  * ahoneybun confused
[23:56] <Riddell> reviewed what's changed since
[23:56] <Riddell> and kept anything relevant
[23:57] <ahoneybun> well I get that parts
[23:57] <ahoneybun> I just pulled the one from lp
[23:57] <Riddell> only thing to keep is that man page
[23:57] <ahoneybun> still a but
[23:58] <ahoneybun> bit confused
[23:58] <ahoneybun> so you bzr pulled the version from lp?
[23:58] <ahoneybun> and from debian?
[23:58] <Riddell> ahoneybun: no I just apt-get sourced it
[23:58] <Riddell> and for debian I went to http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/partitionmanager
[23:58] <ahoneybun> oh that
[23:58] <Riddell> and dget the .dsc
[23:59] <ahoneybun> wget?
[23:59] <Riddell> dget on a .dsc uses wget to download the .dsc, debian.tar.gz and .orig.
[23:59] <ahoneybun> so apt-get source partitionmanager ?
[23:59] <Riddell> yep (assuming you're on saucy)
[23:59] <ahoneybun> nope