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dholbachhello16:59
pleia2o/16:59
zequencehi17:00
smartboyhwo/ from me and zequence for Ubuntu Studio:)17:00
pleia2#startmeeting17:00
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Jul  4 17:00:27 2013 UTC.  The chair is pleia2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.17:00
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smartboyhwIt's 1:00 AM here actually:P17:00
cubo/ Ubuntu Studio as well17:00
pleia2#chair dholbach Gwaihir czajkowski beuno17:00
meetingologyCurrent chairs: Gwaihir beuno czajkowski dholbach pleia217:00
pleia2Welcome to the Community Council Meeting :)17:01
zequencethank you :)17:01
smartboyhw\o/17:01
leoquantthx17:01
pleia2#agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda17:01
pleia2I think we'll dive right in with the Ubuntu Studio check-in since they all seem to be here :)17:01
pleia2#topic Ubuntu Studio check-in17:02
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smartboyhwpleia2, #agenda doesn't exist in available commands, IIRC:P17:02
pleia2so during these check-ins we pretty much just ask how things are going, see if you need any help with anything, share exciting stories :)17:02
pleia2smartboyhw: it's human-readable17:03
pleia2so anyone is welcome to jump in17:03
pleia2how are things going? :)17:03
cubI joined recently, so I think everything's great.17:04
zequenceNot bad. We're not a big team, but we have some exciting things in the works17:04
dholbachwhat's planned for 13.10? :)17:05
smartboyhwMultiple DE support17:05
zequenceThe main thing I suppose is that we're experimenting with becoming DE agnostics17:05
dholbachhow is that going work?17:05
zequenceWell, as it seems, we could create a meta package that depends on another DE, then override a few things, like artwork (if felt important), and also anything else that would seem required from a technical perspective17:06
smartboyhwdholbach, you mean the progress or the method?17:06
czajkowskialoha17:07
dholbachbut you'd then still create ISOs for multiple DEs? or ... well ... flavours of Ubuntu Studio?17:07
czajkowskisorry I'm a bit late, traffic/airport17:07
dholbachwelcome czajkowski17:07
zequenceSo far, we're still sticking with having a default DE that we maintain ourselves, but there is a chance that we might not need to keep our own seed files for any DE (at least from what it seems to me currently)17:08
dholbachok17:08
zequenceand just use overrides17:08
* pleia2 nods17:08
zequencewe've become much more active in social channels, our website and on the wikis17:09
zequenceso, that's a change for the better17:09
dholbachdo you get much feedback?17:09
zequencewe're planning to co youtube videos too17:09
zequencedholbach: sure, all though, the amount of users we have is probably much less than for other, bigger flavors17:10
zequencethe forum is probably the most used (ubuntuforums.org)17:10
cubMany questions are similar and about how to get going with audio or video17:10
cubSo updated documentation and video tutorials might improve a lot17:10
zequenceour main goal is really 14.04 as it seems right now. that will probably be a big makeover moment for us17:11
pleia2cub: tha would be great17:11
pleia2that17:11
dholbachI remember there were some difficulties with the -rt kernel in the past - was that resolved somehow?17:12
smartboyhwdholbach, we are going to remake it for 14.04 or later17:12
smartboyhwSince zequence has got some kernel maintenance skills with linux-lowlatency17:13
zequencedholbach: since it was possible to tweak -generic for low latency (since around 2.6.37 or so), linux-lowlatency was born. Included since Precise17:13
dholbachperfect17:13
zequencenow maintained by me, and it is really just -generic, rebased, with a few config changes17:13
pleia2great17:14
zequencewe had a lot of help from UKT on this17:14
zequenceand of course, Alessio Bogani, who created it initially17:14
zequenceit's integrated into the kernel SRU process now17:15
dholbachawesome17:15
zequenceOne thing that I've personally worked on for a while is making a map of flavor specific developer documentation. There's a lot of resources out there, but that is one thing I'd like to help improve17:16
zequencethere's a lot to know, and with small teams like ours, it's really great to have instant access to all of the information needed in order to maintain a flavotr17:17
dholbachthat might also something where newer contributors might be able to help out17:17
zequencehttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/DeveloperDocumentation is a beginning of that17:17
pleia2yeah, they can share their own pain points so you can figure out where docs need to be written/improved17:17
pleia2nice17:17
zequenceI find that to be a very importan part in trying to get more people involved. It should be as easy as possible17:18
* pleia2 nods17:18
zequenceAnd, that is of course another big goal for us17:18
cubAs quite new in the team I can attest that it's a bit hard to get a grip on everything, so that documentation will make a big improvement17:19
ttoinehop17:20
zequencettoine: hi17:20
pleia2sounds like you folks are working on lots of great things, thanks for joining us today :)17:20
zequencethanks :)17:20
ttoineyw17:20
pleia2and our door is open always if you ever discover you need anything, just let us know17:21
pleia2shall we move on to check-in with Xubuntu?17:21
ttoineso I guess I already missed everything ?17:21
smartboyhwttoine, yeah:PP17:21
ttoine:-(17:22
pleia2ttoine: if you have anything to say about the work studio is doing, please feel free :)17:22
zequencettoine has been working on a webshop for Ubuntu Studio17:22
ttoinepleia2, I work for Studio since its beginning17:22
ttoineand I enjoy the fact that it is more more ready to use out of the box17:23
pleia2webshop?17:23
zequencettoine: I suppose you would be the best to answer any questions on that :)17:24
ttoinepleia2, yes17:24
ttoineI have the licence from Canonical17:24
pleia2not questioning that, just curious as to what it is/will offer :)17:24
ttoineAnd a agreement with them and Spreadshirt. At the moment, the artwork is created, and I just need to find a bit of time to push the products online17:25
pleia2oh, studio-branded products?17:25
ttoineto be very original, we will start with a mug and 3 different colors of t-shirt17:25
ttoinethen, we will see if spreadshirt does the job well17:26
pleia2cool17:26
ttoineyes !17:26
dholbachawesome17:26
smartboyhwThis is rather a surprise project I think, but ttoine has been working on it extensively17:27
ttoineit will be available this summer. I actually am moving from one city to another (new job) and I don't have Internet at home17:27
pleia2great (and congrats on new job)17:28
zequencewe recently got a new art lead, goes by the nick madeinkobaia, and this really boosts our ability to show a prettier face towards the public17:28
pleia2cool17:29
czajkowskiwel done :)17:29
czajkowski*well17:29
ttoinepleia2, you are welcome. I am proud to work now for an open source editor17:29
ttoinemadeinkobaia is really a talented artist17:30
pleia2those are good people to have around17:31
ttoineyes. Open Source needs to be beautiful. most of all, when it is about art production17:32
pleia2:)17:32
smartboyhwzequence's headhunting has been rather successful I think17:32
smartboyhwMany people expressed interest in joining17:32
ttoineAs one of the cofounder of Ubuntu Studio, years ago, I am glad to see the work done by the current team !!17:32
ttoinewe eventually are creating a community. this is quite new17:33
smartboyhwYeah ttoine zequence what happened to our history page? :P17:33
ttoineon the website ? or on Wikipedia ?17:34
pleia2alright, I think we can wrap this portion up and get to the Xubuntu folks17:34
pleia2thanks everyone :)17:34
dholbachthanks a lot Ubuntu Studio people! :)17:34
zequenceyep, thanks all17:34
cub:)17:34
smartboyhw:)17:34
pleia2#topic Xubuntu check-in17:34
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ttoinethank you all17:34
pleia2ok, who all is here from Xubuntu?17:34
elfyo/17:35
skellato/17:35
pleia2o/17:35
czajkowskihey there folks thanks for coming.17:35
micahgo/17:35
czajkowskihow are things this cycle for Xubuntu going ?17:35
elfyI'll go first - suffering a bit17:35
elfywe've made remarkable inroads into manual testcases, the autopilot testing is not so good - but we're not completely sure yet if it will help us17:36
micahgit should when someone has time to dig into it :)17:36
czajkowskiin what way is autopilot not so good and is there some way the QA team can help you ?17:37
elfywe'd probably prefer to be able to get more testing done - but that's about calling for help for it when we need17:37
czajkowskinods17:37
pleia2czajkowski: mostly people-power17:37
czajkowskia lot of projects feel that way about testing :)17:37
czajkowskipleia2: ack17:37
elfyczajkowski: we're not completely sure at present - but autopilot works well with ubuntu/unity - not so well with other apps17:37
elfybut - hopefully we can make use of ubiquity autopilot tests17:38
czajkowskielfy: is this something the team has raised and tried to work with balloons and the QA team with ?17:38
czajkowskito see how it can work or where to help?17:38
elfyand I talk to balloons quite frequently so it's not about talking - more about making it work for us - IF we decide it's actually of any use to us17:39
pleia2yeah, all the QA teams work pretty closely together17:39
Unit193I'm here for Xubuntu, sorry for being late.  (Coffee...)17:39
elfyso - really there's not much that you can help us with at present :)17:39
pleia2I think the main issue is that it's tedious work to get autopilot tests written (they must be very specific) so we need folks who have time to dig into it (as micahg said) and spend the time17:39
elfypleia2: not so much that it's tedious - more that it doesn't like our apps much :)17:40
czajkowskinods and sometimes people do not have the time17:40
elfyabsolutely17:40
micahgelfy: not liking apps might be a fixable issue17:40
czajkowskipleia2: you're saying one thing and elfy says theother, is it a mixture of the two ?17:40
czajkowskimicahg: ahh ok17:40
pleia2what micahg said17:41
elfy+117:41
elfybut - I'm also not at all sure it's going to help us - which is another issue altogether17:41
pleia2elfy put out a call for help with both manual and auto tests today, so hopefully that will drum up some interest :) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2013-July/009051.html17:41
czajkowskiah ok  just so we;re all on the same page17:41
czajkowskidholbach: beuno any comments?17:42
czajkowskipleia2: in general any other issues or concerns or thoughts you would like to air?17:43
pleia2project-wde we're still pretty lean on developers, but we're chugging away17:43
elfyI think project wide we are still pretty lean full stop ;)17:43
dholbachare you in touch with your users? (like what the Ubuntu Studio guys mentioned earlier, social media, etc.)17:44
pleia2yeah, twitter, g+ and facebook17:44
skellatSocial media presences are pretty active17:44
Unit193And of course the users and devel mailing lists.17:44
pleia2lots of feedback from them, and we x-post all our calls for help so that's brought in some casual contributions17:44
czajkowskipleia2: what do you mean x-post ?17:44
pleia2czajkowski: cross-post17:45
skellats/x-post/crosspost/17:45
czajkowskipleia2: ah yes, sorry. :)17:45
dholbachwhat kind of casual contributions were those?17:45
pleia2just recently heard from a community deploying xubuntu in their organization, so will have an interview with them up on the site soon17:45
pleia2bug reports, drive by testing17:46
dholbachnice17:46
dholbachdid some of them stick around?17:46
pleia2not really so far, but our social media is just a few months old, so we'll see :)17:46
dholbachawesome17:46
pleia2we also leveraged existing social media outlets - the facebook and g+ things already existed when we made them "official"17:47
elfysome people do dholbach - that elfy guy did and look what he ended up holding17:47
pleia2linkedin too17:47
dholbach:-)17:47
dholbachwhere do you feel you'd need help the most?17:47
Unit193pleia2: Whereever we picked up lderan.17:47
pleia2oh, we've gotten new contributors in general, just not sure about how many from social media (elfy has been around ubuntu forever!)17:47
skellatpleia2: I wandered in from the shadows more fully around vUDS-130317:48
elfypleia2: thanks - now I feel really old :p17:49
pleia2probably development help, there are always more things we want to get done in a cycle17:49
pleia2elfy: <317:49
pleia2really happy that we got a bunch of clean-up work done for 13.04, ended up being a really solid release but not particularly innovative :)17:50
dholbachI'm sure your users appreciate "really solid" :)17:50
pleia2indeed!17:50
skellatWith luck we'll get apt-offline seeded this cycle too17:50
pleia2hoping for 4.12 as well, but we're dependent upon upstream and not sure it will land in time17:51
pleia2xfce ^^17:51
dholbachI'm all set in terms of questions :)17:51
pleia2we're meeting with jono next week to discuss Mir17:51
dholbachah yes, he mentioned it in passing17:51
dholbachbeuno, Gwaihir, czajkowski? more questions?17:51
pleia2thanks xubuntu folks :)17:54
dholbachthanks a lot!17:54
elfycheers17:54
skellatcheers17:55
* dholbach hugs you all!17:55
pleia2#topic Any other business17:55
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pleia2anyone have anything else? :)17:55
dholbachno, I'm all set17:55
pleia2ok, thanks everyone17:57
pleia2#endmeeting17:57
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Unit193Danke.17:57
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s-foxhello22:00
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hggdh#startmeeting 2200 UTC Ubuntu Membership Board22:00
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hggdhHello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the 2200 UTC meeting for July 4th, 2013.22:00
IdleOneo/22:00
PabloRubianeshello all22:00
iulian\o22:00
hggdhWe will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.22:00
hggdhThe format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).22:01
hggdhEach applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.22:01
hggdhDuring this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.22:01
hggdhWhen the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)22:01
hggdh#voter micahg s-fox PabloRubianes IdleOne iulian hggdh22:02
hggdhhum, where's the response?22:02
s-foxi had my vote notification22:03
IdleOnetry #voters22:03
hggdhnevermind. So, now, for the first candidate22:03
hggdh#voters micahg s-fox PabloRubianes IdleOne iulian hggdh22:03
meetingologyCurrent voters: IdleOne PabloRubianes hggdh iulian micahg s-fox22:03
hggdhyeah22:03
hggdhDolasilla: please present yorself22:04
DolasillaHi all! :)22:04
iulianHi there.22:04
DolasillaThis is Silvia, I am an Italian computer engineer currently living in France.22:04
DolasillaI have joined the Ubuntu community around 2007 through the UbuntuWomen group22:05
Dolasillawith the goal to involve more people, particularly women, in the community22:05
Dolasillalater I got in touch with the Italian loco team (around 2010)22:05
Dolasillawhere I am mainly active in the promotion group, writing on a weelky basis on the newsletter, contributing to presentations with talks22:06
Dolasillaand some other activites22:06
IdleOneDolasilla: Please link to your wiki page22:06
DolasillaI also work on the italian ubuntu website, and give some contribution to translations22:06
Dolasillahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SilviaBindelli22:06
DolasillaI am currently in the board uf Ubuntu Women22:06
Dolasillaand, in Italy, I contributed to create the local chapter of the group22:07
IdleOneLots of impressive work :)22:07
iulianVery nice.22:07
hggdhyep. So...22:07
PabloRubianesyes nice work!22:07
s-foxi am impressed22:07
s-fox:)22:07
Dolasilla:) thanks22:08
PabloRubianeslet's vote22:08
PabloRubianes:)22:08
s-foxagreed22:08
hggdh#vote for Dolasilla as an Ubuntu Member22:08
meetingologyPlease vote on: for Dolasilla as an Ubuntu Member22:08
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)22:08
iulian+1 Keep up the good work.22:08
meetingology+1 Keep up the good work. received from iulian22:08
IdleOne+122:08
s-fox+1 nice work :D22:08
meetingology+1 received from IdleOne22:08
meetingology+1 nice work :D received from s-fox22:08
PabloRubianes+122:08
meetingology+1 received from PabloRubianes22:08
hggdh+1 no question :-)22:08
meetingology+1 no question :-) received from hggdh22:08
micahg+122:08
meetingology+1 received from micahg22:08
IdleOne#endvote22:09
hggdh#endvote22:09
meetingologyVoting ended on: for Dolasilla as an Ubuntu Member22:09
meetingologyVotes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:022:09
meetingologyMotion carried22:09
IdleOneCongrats Dolasilla!!!22:09
PabloRubianescongrats Dolasilla keep the work going!22:09
s-foxcongratulations22:09
hggdhDolasilla: welcome!22:09
Dolasillathanks!!! :)22:09
Gwaihircongrats Dolasilla! \o/22:09
Deindrecongrats Dolasilla!!!22:09
Dolasillathank you all :)22:09
kokoye2007congratulations Dolasilla22:09
s-foxthank you for your efforts22:09
neo31congratulations Dolasilla22:09
yeminnCongratulations Dolasilla22:09
Dolasillathanks :)22:10
hggdhsalih-emin: please introduce yourself, and link your wiki and launchpad pages22:10
saimawnkhamCongratulations Dolasilla22:10
salih-eminHi !22:10
thohiGreat Ubuntu woman22:10
salih-eminMy name is Salih, I live and work as an IT Consultant in Greece22:10
salih-eminhere is my wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SalihEmin22:10
salih-eminI have been in the Linux world since 200222:11
salih-eminand with Ubuntu since 200722:11
salih-eminMy daily work with members of Ubuntu Greece is giving advices22:12
salih-eminand support for any kind of problem22:12
salih-eminbut most of my job is advocating the use of Ubuntu for evrey day jobs22:13
salih-eminI love helping new users to get involved with Ubuntu and the community22:14
hggdhsalih-emin: please wait a bit, we are discussing it in the background22:14
salih-eminok !22:15
salih-emin:)22:15
hggdh#voters chilicui122:19
meetingologyCurrent voters: IdleOne PabloRubianes chilicui1 hggdh iulian micahg s-fox22:19
chilicui1salih-emin, it seems like optimus kernel has been left a little behind, do you plans to trying to push your changes to the ubuntu kernel?22:19
salih-eminyes that is true, I am working on providing it through PPA rather than22:20
salih-emindownloadable deb packages22:20
hggdh#vote on salih-emin for Ubuntu membership22:20
meetingologyPlease vote on: on salih-emin for Ubuntu membership22:20
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)22:20
hggdh+122:20
meetingology+1 received from hggdh22:20
iulian+122:20
meetingology+1 received from iulian22:20
PabloRubianes+122:20
meetingology+1 received from PabloRubianes22:20
eliasps+122:20
s-fox+122:20
IdleOne+122:20
meetingology+1 received from s-fox22:20
meetingology+1 received from IdleOne22:20
chilicui1+1, incredible work, you radiate energy, it will be our pleasure to have you with us22:20
meetingology+1, incredible work, you radiate energy, it will be our pleasure to have you with us received from chilicui122:20
micahg+122:20
meetingology+1 received from micahg22:20
hggdh#endvote22:20
meetingologyVoting ended on: on salih-emin for Ubuntu membership22:20
meetingologyVotes for:7 Votes against:0 Abstentions:022:20
meetingologyMotion carried22:20
IdleOneCongrats salih-emin and welcome.22:20
hggdhsalih-emin: welcome!22:20
salih-eminthank you all !!!!22:21
tr3quart1stacongrats!!!22:21
chilicui1welcome aboard salih-emin =)22:21
kokoye2007welcome 2 ubuntu-member salih-emin22:21
PabloRubianescongrats salih-emin22:21
Ethan-Kurtcongrats ubuntu-member salih-emin22:21
salih-eminthank you all, proud to be member !22:21
htutmyatCongrats salih-emin :)22:22
NikThCongratulations salih-emin . Welcome aboard. :-)22:22
neo31conratulations salih-emin22:22
salih-eminthank you all !22:22
CkCheer salih-emin22:22
saimawnkhamcongrats salih :)22:22
Ck=122:23
Ck+122:23
Ckhello next ?22:23
IdleOnepatience :)22:24
thohi:)22:24
kokoye2007we are sleepless local 4:30 AM  IdleOne  :P22:24
IdleOneFor all the people who applied from Myanmar. We are happy that such a large number of you want to become Ubuntu members. We do have some concerns though...22:25
htutmyat:)22:25
PabloRubianeskokoye2007, I told the Myanmar this time was not so good for you22:25
Ethan-KurtWe all really are contributor and we hope to be a Ubuntu-Member22:26
lugyimin:)22:26
IdleOneThe main concern we have is that all of your wiki pages appear to be very similar in terms of contributions. We like to see a more personal listing of what each member has done on his/her own.22:26
iulianWe don't offer membership to a group, but rather to individuals. It looks like all your wiki pages are the same,  more or less. The testimonials have been given between you guys, except for one person who's already a member (Pyae Sone). Having said that, I would like you to put some effort in writing your own wiki page with detailed explanation of what your contributions are.22:26
iulianWe are sure that you guys are doing good work out there but your wiki pages are way too similar. So we cannot really judge who's doing what.22:27
IdleOneSo, what the Membership Board has decided to do is to postpone the voting to our email list and give you all an extra 7 days before we start voting.22:27
iulianOr you guys can even extend that 7 days to whatever you think is best for you.22:28
Ethan-KurtWe can also write down in here.22:28
Ckbecuse of we contributing with group in Myanmar . We go together all around the state .22:28
kokoye2007all are Ubuntu-MM Core Memer22:28
IdleOneWe hope you all understand that we want to make sure we have all the information possible so that we can make the best decision for the Ubuntu community.22:28
kokoye2007_member22:28
Ethan-KurtIn our country, it's 05:00am and we didn't sleep just for a while22:29
Ckthat's why our team leader make a templates.22:29
CkWhat we all are...22:29
Ethan-Kurtsure! our template are the same because we contributed together22:29
kokoye2007when we go event and make event22:29
Ethan-Kurtthat's why we have the same template22:29
kokoye2007together whenever22:29
Ethan-Kurtyou can see our activities at  http://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntu-mm22:30
iulianEthan-Kurt: Then please document that in your wiki pages. Like we said above we don't grant membership to an entire group.22:30
PabloRubianesI understand that but this is an individual process22:30
kokoye2007all about is my mistake22:30
htutmyatWhy not the chance like the 2 above ?22:30
Ethan-KurtOur individual project is shown on "About me"22:31
saimawnkhamits ok.22:31
saimawnkhami quit22:31
htutmyatyou can dicusss with each ,that are not real or not ,right ?22:31
kokoye2007who is ubuntu-mm core member - approval in template :(22:31
kokoye2007upset22:31
iulianEthan-Kurt: No, that section is just "About me". It's not saying anything about your contributions to Ubuntu.22:31
kokoye2007who seen wiki, who see activity22:32
Ethan-KurtDear iulian, it's okay you decided like this.22:32
chilicui1let's make this clear, we're not rejecting your applications, we just want to make sure we're not approving in batch, so we're giving you 7 more days to polish your wiki pages, then we'll vote for your approval22:32
Ethan-KurtI can still contribute even I am not the member of Ubuntu22:32
IdleOnePlease try to understand that we are not trying to punish anybody. What we want is to give each one of you the best possible chance at approval.22:32
Ethan-KurtI've just seen the contributing power22:33
Ethan-Kurtno wiki22:33
Ethan-Kurtwhatever, you are the boardmember.22:33
IdleOneWe are not rejecting any of you at this time22:33
Ethan-Kurtyou can decided what you want to22:33
Ethan-Kurtthanks22:33
IdleOneI want that to be clear22:33
yeminnI see, chilicui1 :)22:33
Ethan-Kurtupset :(22:33
IdleOnekokoye2007: you are the loco contact correct?22:33
kokoye2007yes IdleOne22:34
kokoye2007i am ubuntu-mm leader and ubuntu-member22:34
IdleOneok Please hold for a moment22:34
CkWe are grouply contributing Ubuntu in our country . and than Yangon city Development Committe (YCDC) already change Ubuntu Os because of  our team.our group .22:34
kokoye2007IdleOne: it's my idea and my mistake22:34
Ethan-KurtCurrently, I am the Ubuntu instructor and technical supporter of  Yangon City Development Committee (Government Sector) and University of Computer Studies in Thaton.22:35
kokoye2007but they are real activity Ubuntu Contributor22:35
kokoye2007ok skip it. ;P22:35
Ckthat'swhy we always says I am what I am because of who we all are.22:35
IdleOnekokoye2007: you did not make any mistakes. Everybody please calm down22:35
Ethan-KurtMost of my times have been passed by contributing Ubuntu22:35
PabloRubianesplease could you hold the chat a little22:35
Ckand than We can't sleep for hole night .22:35
iulianPlease don't get us wrong here. We are just trying to point you guys in the right direction so that next time when you come to the meeting we won't have to talk about this matters again. We have acknowledged the fact that you guys are doing excellent job with your group.22:37
Ethan-KurtOkay.22:37
Ethan-KurtI'm done with all of you22:37
iulianIt's just that we cannot really judge who is doing what. Maybe someone is doing much more than the other and we wouldn't want to grant membership to someone who's not doing anything or the like.22:37
Ethan-KurtI will share this meeting log22:38
Ethan-Kurtin Google+ and22:38
Ethan-Kurtlet decided the ppl22:38
Ethan-KurtI am done with you22:38
iulianHmm.22:38
kokoye2007launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mm-council is our admin team22:38
kokoye2007hey neo3122:39
kokoye2007time for you :)22:39
IdleOnekokoye2007: please join #ubuntu-rmb22:39
Ckpass me .22:39
yeminndun be serious Ethan22:39
Cknext ok22:39
iuliankokoye2007: Could you please talk to Ethan and tell him to calm down?22:39
hggdhall: we are NOT refusing your application.22:39
neo31:)22:39
kokoye2007i think time is too short22:39
IdleOnehggdh: Please end the meeting until we can speak with kokoye200722:40
kokoye2007sorry neo31,22:40
thohiyes, we understand . only different point of view22:40
neo31:(22:40
neo31is it my turn or is the meeting aborted kokoye2007 ?22:40
Ck I'd love to sharing and contribute Ubuntu in Local community . And most of my life deeply invest in Ubuntu Development and try to exam LPI in next year and would like to proudly become Ubuntu Member.22:40
Ckwho next ?22:41
Ckgo ahead22:41
neo31ok22:41
hggdhneo31: it seems we will have to hold on you22:41
IdleOnewait!22:42
neo31Should I post my sentences hggdh ?22:42
hggdhneo31: yes, please go ahead22:42
neo31Thank you hggdh, hello dear members.22:42
neo31I am Ahmed Sghaier, a Tunisian software engineer and a network security and services IT specialist. My first experience with Linux was in 2002 and switched to it as my main OS in 2005.22:42
neo31Later in 2008 I have joined Ubuntu Tunisian LoCo team and became an active member in 2009.22:42
neo31I have been approved as a Freedom Fighter (approved active members) in the team in 2010 and joined the management commitee of the team in 2011.22:42
chilicui1hi neo31 welcome22:42
neo31In 2012 I was assisting our LoCo contact when possible, and I have been approved as the official LoCo contact in 2013 election. I am also now the secretary general of CLibre, a FLOSS NGO supporting Tunisian communities.22:43
neo31I have contributed to 25 IRL events during last years (local, national and international events as a speaker, workshop trainer, coordinator, organizer or assistant). I have contributed also on IRC, ML, forums and many of our sub teams (media, events, relations, documentation and reporting)22:43
neo31hi chilicui1 :)22:43
neo31this is my wiki page for review : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AhmedSghaier22:43
chilicui1neo31, do you photos or links to the conferences you've participated?22:44
alayahi, I'm the former loco contact of Ubuntu-tn and a Ubuntu Member. I'm here to support Neo3122:44
neo31yes chilicui1 there are many links on events page22:45
iulianalaya: Great.22:45
neo31https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/Events22:45
chilicui1neo31: thanks22:45
neo31some other links could be found also on our team report page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/TeamReports22:45
neo31I have uploaded some photos today to https://plus.google.com/photos/109786888015890437987/albums/5896864064045728145?authkey=CKrv-ITLl4a2Ow22:46
neo31unfortunately on of our main photos source got down lately and I am recollecting some other photos22:46
neo31but alaya can confirm my contributions to the events you want22:47
chilicui1I've seen you're interested in becoming a MOTU, however your lp account don't reflect activity in that area, are you having issues there?22:47
neo31we have been working on packaging workshops during UGJ22:48
neo31now that we have enough knowledge about packaging and how it works I became interested in joining the MOTU team22:49
alayaI confirm the participation of neo. there is a little problem in the servers of the free community here in tunisia (I have conctacted the admin)22:49
neo31I will be seeking a MOTU sponsor before next UGJ and organize some IRC classrooms for the team22:49
chilicui1got it neo31, just wondering22:50
neo31Then I will start contributing real packages to next releases before I apply to join the MOTU team22:50
neo31:) good chilicui122:50
iulianneo31: #ubuntu-motu is always there to help you. ;-)22:50
micahgsounds good, MOTU can always use more help :)22:50
neo31sure iulian22:50
hggdhOK22:51
iulianneo31: Thanks for the information.22:51
hggdh#vote on neo31 for Ubuntu Membership22:51
meetingologyPlease vote on: on neo31 for Ubuntu Membership22:51
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)22:51
PabloRubianes+122:51
meetingology+1 received from PabloRubianes22:51
iulian+1 Great work.22:51
meetingology+1 Great work. received from iulian22:51
IdleOne+122:51
meetingology+1 received from IdleOne22:51
s-fox+122:51
meetingology+1 received from s-fox22:51
hggdh+1 thank you for your work22:51
meetingology+1 thank you for your work received from hggdh22:51
chilicui1+1, I'm sure you will get MOTU and will keep up your nice contributions to the Ubuntu-TN team, thanks for inspire us22:51
meetingology+1, I'm sure you will get MOTU and will keep up your nice contributions to the Ubuntu-TN team, thanks for inspire us received from chilicui122:51
micahg+122:52
meetingology+1 received from micahg22:52
hggdh#endvote22:52
meetingologyVoting ended on: on neo31 for Ubuntu Membership22:52
meetingologyVotes for:7 Votes against:0 Abstentions:022:52
meetingologyMotion carried22:52
IdleOneCongrats neo31 and welcome!22:52
hggdhneo31: welcome!22:52
yeminnCongratulations neo31!22:52
yeminn:)22:52
neo31Thank you very much :)22:52
alayamabrouk (congrates)  neo  :)22:52
chilicui1welcome aboard neo3122:52
Ckcongratulations Neo22:52
thohineo31 cheer :)22:52
iulianCongratulations, neo31 and keep up the good work. I hope I will see you soon in #ubuntu-motu.22:53
neo31cheers, I will do my best to improve my contributions22:53
hggdhOK. Now I believe all the pending candidates are the ones involved in the current confusion. We are discussing with kokoye2007 in the backstage.22:53
neo31thank you iulian22:53
hggdhI will hold the meeting open for a while22:53
PabloRubianescongrats neo3122:54
lunapersaCongratulations  neo3122:54
neo31thank you PabloRubianes alaya lunapersa :)22:54
salih-eminneo31 congrats !22:54
neo31thank you salih-emin22:55
hggdhgiven the time -- 2255 UST, I will close this meeting. The conversation with kokoye2007 will keep on22:55
hggdh#endmeeting22:55
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IoannisM_Salih congrats ! you deserve it! Keep walking22:56
salih-eminthanks IoannisM_ !22:57
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