=== james_ is now known as Guest6142 === jono is now known as Guest55880 === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh === fego is now known as zephyr === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey === chuck__ is now known as zul === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia [16:59] hello [16:59] o/ [17:00] hi [17:00] o/ from me and zequence for Ubuntu Studio:) [17:00] #startmeeting [17:00] Meeting started Thu Jul 4 17:00:27 2013 UTC. The chair is pleia2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [17:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [17:00] It's 1:00 AM here actually:P [17:00] o/ Ubuntu Studio as well [17:00] #chair dholbach Gwaihir czajkowski beuno [17:00] Current chairs: Gwaihir beuno czajkowski dholbach pleia2 [17:01] Welcome to the Community Council Meeting :) [17:01] thank you :) [17:01] \o/ [17:01] thx [17:01] #agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda [17:01] I think we'll dive right in with the Ubuntu Studio check-in since they all seem to be here :) [17:02] #topic Ubuntu Studio check-in === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Studio check-in [17:02] pleia2, #agenda doesn't exist in available commands, IIRC:P [17:02] so during these check-ins we pretty much just ask how things are going, see if you need any help with anything, share exciting stories :) [17:03] smartboyhw: it's human-readable [17:03] so anyone is welcome to jump in [17:03] how are things going? :) [17:04] I joined recently, so I think everything's great. [17:04] Not bad. We're not a big team, but we have some exciting things in the works [17:05] what's planned for 13.10? :) [17:05] Multiple DE support [17:05] The main thing I suppose is that we're experimenting with becoming DE agnostics [17:05] how is that going work? [17:06] Well, as it seems, we could create a meta package that depends on another DE, then override a few things, like artwork (if felt important), and also anything else that would seem required from a technical perspective [17:06] dholbach, you mean the progress or the method? [17:07] aloha [17:07] but you'd then still create ISOs for multiple DEs? or ... well ... flavours of Ubuntu Studio? [17:07] sorry I'm a bit late, traffic/airport [17:07] welcome czajkowski [17:08] So far, we're still sticking with having a default DE that we maintain ourselves, but there is a chance that we might not need to keep our own seed files for any DE (at least from what it seems to me currently) [17:08] ok [17:08] and just use overrides [17:08] * pleia2 nods [17:09] we've become much more active in social channels, our website and on the wikis [17:09] so, that's a change for the better [17:09] do you get much feedback? [17:09] we're planning to co youtube videos too [17:10] dholbach: sure, all though, the amount of users we have is probably much less than for other, bigger flavors [17:10] the forum is probably the most used (ubuntuforums.org) [17:10] Many questions are similar and about how to get going with audio or video [17:10] So updated documentation and video tutorials might improve a lot [17:11] our main goal is really 14.04 as it seems right now. that will probably be a big makeover moment for us [17:11] cub: tha would be great [17:11] that [17:12] I remember there were some difficulties with the -rt kernel in the past - was that resolved somehow? [17:12] dholbach, we are going to remake it for 14.04 or later [17:13] Since zequence has got some kernel maintenance skills with linux-lowlatency [17:13] dholbach: since it was possible to tweak -generic for low latency (since around 2.6.37 or so), linux-lowlatency was born. Included since Precise [17:13] perfect [17:13] now maintained by me, and it is really just -generic, rebased, with a few config changes [17:14] great [17:14] we had a lot of help from UKT on this [17:14] and of course, Alessio Bogani, who created it initially [17:15] it's integrated into the kernel SRU process now [17:15] awesome [17:16] One thing that I've personally worked on for a while is making a map of flavor specific developer documentation. There's a lot of resources out there, but that is one thing I'd like to help improve [17:17] there's a lot to know, and with small teams like ours, it's really great to have instant access to all of the information needed in order to maintain a flavotr [17:17] that might also something where newer contributors might be able to help out [17:17] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/DeveloperDocumentation is a beginning of that [17:17] yeah, they can share their own pain points so you can figure out where docs need to be written/improved [17:17] nice [17:18] I find that to be a very importan part in trying to get more people involved. It should be as easy as possible [17:18] * pleia2 nods [17:18] And, that is of course another big goal for us [17:19] As quite new in the team I can attest that it's a bit hard to get a grip on everything, so that documentation will make a big improvement [17:20] hop [17:20] ttoine: hi [17:20] sounds like you folks are working on lots of great things, thanks for joining us today :) [17:20] thanks :) [17:20] yw [17:21] and our door is open always if you ever discover you need anything, just let us know [17:21] shall we move on to check-in with Xubuntu? [17:21] so I guess I already missed everything ? [17:21] ttoine, yeah:PP [17:22] :-( [17:22] ttoine: if you have anything to say about the work studio is doing, please feel free :) [17:22] ttoine has been working on a webshop for Ubuntu Studio [17:22] pleia2, I work for Studio since its beginning [17:23] and I enjoy the fact that it is more more ready to use out of the box [17:23] webshop? [17:24] ttoine: I suppose you would be the best to answer any questions on that :) [17:24] pleia2, yes [17:24] I have the licence from Canonical [17:24] not questioning that, just curious as to what it is/will offer :) [17:25] And a agreement with them and Spreadshirt. At the moment, the artwork is created, and I just need to find a bit of time to push the products online [17:25] oh, studio-branded products? [17:25] to be very original, we will start with a mug and 3 different colors of t-shirt [17:26] then, we will see if spreadshirt does the job well [17:26] cool [17:26] yes ! [17:26] awesome [17:27] This is rather a surprise project I think, but ttoine has been working on it extensively [17:27] it will be available this summer. I actually am moving from one city to another (new job) and I don't have Internet at home [17:28] great (and congrats on new job) [17:28] we recently got a new art lead, goes by the nick madeinkobaia, and this really boosts our ability to show a prettier face towards the public [17:29] cool [17:29] wel done :) [17:29] *well [17:29] pleia2, you are welcome. I am proud to work now for an open source editor [17:30] madeinkobaia is really a talented artist [17:31] those are good people to have around [17:32] yes. Open Source needs to be beautiful. most of all, when it is about art production [17:32] :) [17:32] zequence's headhunting has been rather successful I think [17:32] Many people expressed interest in joining [17:32] As one of the cofounder of Ubuntu Studio, years ago, I am glad to see the work done by the current team !! [17:33] we eventually are creating a community. this is quite new [17:33] Yeah ttoine zequence what happened to our history page? :P [17:34] on the website ? or on Wikipedia ? [17:34] alright, I think we can wrap this portion up and get to the Xubuntu folks [17:34] thanks everyone :) [17:34] thanks a lot Ubuntu Studio people! :) [17:34] yep, thanks all [17:34] :) [17:34] :) [17:34] #topic Xubuntu check-in === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Xubuntu check-in [17:34] thank you all [17:34] ok, who all is here from Xubuntu? [17:35] o/ [17:35] o/ [17:35] o/ [17:35] hey there folks thanks for coming. [17:35] o/ [17:35] how are things this cycle for Xubuntu going ? [17:35] I'll go first - suffering a bit [17:36] we've made remarkable inroads into manual testcases, the autopilot testing is not so good - but we're not completely sure yet if it will help us [17:36] it should when someone has time to dig into it :) [17:37] in what way is autopilot not so good and is there some way the QA team can help you ? [17:37] we'd probably prefer to be able to get more testing done - but that's about calling for help for it when we need [17:37] nods [17:37] czajkowski: mostly people-power [17:37] a lot of projects feel that way about testing :) [17:37] pleia2: ack [17:37] czajkowski: we're not completely sure at present - but autopilot works well with ubuntu/unity - not so well with other apps [17:38] but - hopefully we can make use of ubiquity autopilot tests [17:38] elfy: is this something the team has raised and tried to work with balloons and the QA team with ? [17:38] to see how it can work or where to help? [17:39] and I talk to balloons quite frequently so it's not about talking - more about making it work for us - IF we decide it's actually of any use to us [17:39] yeah, all the QA teams work pretty closely together [17:39] I'm here for Xubuntu, sorry for being late. (Coffee...) [17:39] so - really there's not much that you can help us with at present :) [17:39] I think the main issue is that it's tedious work to get autopilot tests written (they must be very specific) so we need folks who have time to dig into it (as micahg said) and spend the time [17:40] pleia2: not so much that it's tedious - more that it doesn't like our apps much :) [17:40] nods and sometimes people do not have the time [17:40] absolutely [17:40] elfy: not liking apps might be a fixable issue [17:40] pleia2: you're saying one thing and elfy says theother, is it a mixture of the two ? [17:40] micahg: ahh ok [17:41] what micahg said [17:41] +1 [17:41] but - I'm also not at all sure it's going to help us - which is another issue altogether [17:41] elfy put out a call for help with both manual and auto tests today, so hopefully that will drum up some interest :) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2013-July/009051.html [17:41] ah ok just so we;re all on the same page [17:42] dholbach: beuno any comments? [17:43] pleia2: in general any other issues or concerns or thoughts you would like to air? [17:43] project-wde we're still pretty lean on developers, but we're chugging away [17:43] I think project wide we are still pretty lean full stop ;) [17:44] are you in touch with your users? (like what the Ubuntu Studio guys mentioned earlier, social media, etc.) [17:44] yeah, twitter, g+ and facebook [17:44] Social media presences are pretty active [17:44] And of course the users and devel mailing lists. [17:44] lots of feedback from them, and we x-post all our calls for help so that's brought in some casual contributions [17:44] pleia2: what do you mean x-post ? [17:45] czajkowski: cross-post [17:45] s/x-post/crosspost/ [17:45] pleia2: ah yes, sorry. :) [17:45] what kind of casual contributions were those? [17:45] just recently heard from a community deploying xubuntu in their organization, so will have an interview with them up on the site soon [17:46] bug reports, drive by testing [17:46] nice [17:46] did some of them stick around? [17:46] not really so far, but our social media is just a few months old, so we'll see :) [17:46] awesome [17:47] we also leveraged existing social media outlets - the facebook and g+ things already existed when we made them "official" [17:47] some people do dholbach - that elfy guy did and look what he ended up holding [17:47] linkedin too [17:47] :-) [17:47] where do you feel you'd need help the most? [17:47] pleia2: Whereever we picked up lderan. [17:47] oh, we've gotten new contributors in general, just not sure about how many from social media (elfy has been around ubuntu forever!) [17:48] pleia2: I wandered in from the shadows more fully around vUDS-1303 [17:49] pleia2: thanks - now I feel really old :p [17:49] probably development help, there are always more things we want to get done in a cycle [17:49] elfy: <3 [17:50] really happy that we got a bunch of clean-up work done for 13.04, ended up being a really solid release but not particularly innovative :) [17:50] I'm sure your users appreciate "really solid" :) [17:50] indeed! [17:50] With luck we'll get apt-offline seeded this cycle too [17:51] hoping for 4.12 as well, but we're dependent upon upstream and not sure it will land in time [17:51] xfce ^^ [17:51] I'm all set in terms of questions :) [17:51] we're meeting with jono next week to discuss Mir [17:51] ah yes, he mentioned it in passing [17:51] beuno, Gwaihir, czajkowski? more questions? [17:54] thanks xubuntu folks :) [17:54] thanks a lot! [17:54] cheers [17:55] cheers [17:55] * dholbach hugs you all! [17:55] #topic Any other business === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Any other business [17:55] anyone have anything else? :) [17:55] no, I'm all set [17:57] ok, thanks everyone [17:57] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [17:57] Meeting ended Thu Jul 4 17:57:05 2013 UTC. 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[21:36] /msg NickServ identify Dun+rytohackm3 [21:36] Hay , Sai Kham [21:36] wc salih-emin saimawnkham yeminn Ethan-Kurt thohi Ck HoNo [21:37] Yes [21:37] ouch Ethan-Kurt !! [21:37] sure! [21:37] I won't Ethan :D [21:37] ;( :( x( [21:38] Keyboard ;( :( x( [21:38] Hay childplay lugyimin [21:38] that's okay. this passwd is only for IRC [21:38] just temporary [21:39] :) [21:40] hi lugyimin mobile phone owner [21:40] -_- [21:41] where's HM, KKMH? [21:42] Hi ashams [21:43] wc sawkhaing [21:43] Ko Saw [21:43] hi hihi [21:43] hello [21:44] wc htutmyat_ [21:44] hi htut [21:44] change with nick command htutmyat_ [21:44] wc time !!! [21:44] yes salih-emin we are ubuntu-mm member :) [21:45] :) [21:47] salih-emin: many testimonials in your wiki. so gr8. proud ubuntu-gr and u [21:49] kokoye2007, thank you for your kind words and I realy thank all the good people for their support ! === kyri is now known as tr3quart1sta [21:58] Countdown (Only 2 minutes left) [21:59] hi [22:00] hello [22:00] are we all set? [22:00] o/ [22:00] #startmeeting 2200 UTC Ubuntu Membership Board [22:00] Meeting started Thu Jul 4 22:00:44 2013 UTC. The chair is hggdh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [22:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 2200 UTC Ubuntu Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: [22:00] Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the 2200 UTC meeting for July 4th, 2013. [22:00] o/ [22:00] hello all [22:00] \o [22:00] We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. [22:01] The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO). [22:01] Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions. [22:01] During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote. [22:01] When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!) [22:02] #voter micahg s-fox PabloRubianes IdleOne iulian hggdh [22:02] hum, where's the response? [22:03] i had my vote notification [22:03] try #voters [22:03] nevermind. So, now, for the first candidate [22:03] #voters micahg s-fox PabloRubianes IdleOne iulian hggdh [22:03] Current voters: IdleOne PabloRubianes hggdh iulian micahg s-fox [22:03] yeah [22:04] Dolasilla: please present yorself [22:04] Hi all! :) [22:04] Hi there. [22:04] This is Silvia, I am an Italian computer engineer currently living in France. [22:05] I have joined the Ubuntu community around 2007 through the UbuntuWomen group [22:05] with the goal to involve more people, particularly women, in the community [22:05] later I got in touch with the Italian loco team (around 2010) [22:06] where I am mainly active in the promotion group, writing on a weelky basis on the newsletter, contributing to presentations with talks [22:06] and some other activites [22:06] Dolasilla: Please link to your wiki page [22:06] I also work on the italian ubuntu website, and give some contribution to translations [22:06] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SilviaBindelli [22:06] I am currently in the board uf Ubuntu Women [22:07] and, in Italy, I contributed to create the local chapter of the group [22:07] Lots of impressive work :) [22:07] Very nice. [22:07] yep. So... [22:07] yes nice work! [22:07] i am impressed [22:07] :) [22:08] :) thanks [22:08] let's vote [22:08] :) [22:08] agreed [22:08] #vote for Dolasilla as an Ubuntu Member [22:08] Please vote on: for Dolasilla as an Ubuntu Member [22:08] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [22:08] +1 Keep up the good work. [22:08] +1 Keep up the good work. received from iulian [22:08] +1 [22:08] +1 nice work :D [22:08] +1 received from IdleOne [22:08] +1 nice work :D received from s-fox [22:08] +1 [22:08] +1 received from PabloRubianes [22:08] +1 no question :-) [22:08] +1 no question :-) received from hggdh [22:08] +1 [22:08] +1 received from micahg [22:09] #endvote [22:09] #endvote [22:09] Voting ended on: for Dolasilla as an Ubuntu Member [22:09] Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [22:09] Motion carried [22:09] Congrats Dolasilla!!! [22:09] congrats Dolasilla keep the work going! [22:09] congratulations [22:09] Dolasilla: welcome! [22:09] thanks!!! :) [22:09] congrats Dolasilla! \o/ [22:09] congrats Dolasilla!!! [22:09] thank you all :) [22:09] congratulations Dolasilla [22:09] thank you for your efforts [22:09] congratulations Dolasilla [22:09] Congratulations Dolasilla [22:10] thanks :) [22:10] salih-emin: please introduce yourself, and link your wiki and launchpad pages [22:10] Congratulations Dolasilla [22:10] Hi ! [22:10] Great Ubuntu woman [22:10] My name is Salih, I live and work as an IT Consultant in Greece [22:10] here is my wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SalihEmin [22:11] I have been in the Linux world since 2002 [22:11] and with Ubuntu since 2007 [22:12] My daily work with members of Ubuntu Greece is giving advices [22:12] and support for any kind of problem [22:13] but most of my job is advocating the use of Ubuntu for evrey day jobs [22:14] I love helping new users to get involved with Ubuntu and the community [22:14] salih-emin: please wait a bit, we are discussing it in the background [22:15] ok ! [22:15] :) [22:19] #voters chilicui1 [22:19] Current voters: IdleOne PabloRubianes chilicui1 hggdh iulian micahg s-fox [22:19] salih-emin, it seems like optimus kernel has been left a little behind, do you plans to trying to push your changes to the ubuntu kernel? [22:20] yes that is true, I am working on providing it through PPA rather than [22:20] downloadable deb packages [22:20] #vote on salih-emin for Ubuntu membership [22:20] Please vote on: on salih-emin for Ubuntu membership [22:20] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [22:20] +1 [22:20] +1 received from hggdh [22:20] +1 [22:20] +1 received from iulian [22:20] +1 [22:20] +1 received from PabloRubianes [22:20] +1 [22:20] +1 [22:20] +1 [22:20] +1 received from s-fox [22:20] +1 received from IdleOne [22:20] +1, incredible work, you radiate energy, it will be our pleasure to have you with us [22:20] +1, incredible work, you radiate energy, it will be our pleasure to have you with us received from chilicui1 [22:20] +1 [22:20] +1 received from micahg [22:20] #endvote [22:20] Voting ended on: on salih-emin for Ubuntu membership [22:20] Votes for:7 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [22:20] Motion carried [22:20] Congrats salih-emin and welcome. [22:20] salih-emin: welcome! [22:21] thank you all !!!! [22:21] congrats!!! [22:21] welcome aboard salih-emin =) [22:21] welcome 2 ubuntu-member salih-emin [22:21] congrats salih-emin [22:21] congrats ubuntu-member salih-emin [22:21] thank you all, proud to be member ! [22:22] Congrats salih-emin :) [22:22] Congratulations salih-emin . Welcome aboard. :-) [22:22] conratulations salih-emin [22:22] thank you all ! [22:22] Cheer salih-emin [22:22] congrats salih :) [22:23] =1 [22:23]