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funkyhey hey :)00:10
funkyif I run dns from domain name registrar cp I dont need to install bind right?00:10
sarnoldfunky: probably correct00:11
funkywhat for people use bind I, its when they want to run their own dns server?00:12
sarnoldfunky: DNS servers run in two modes, authoritative (publishing details about a domain or subdomain) and recursive (looking up data from other servers)00:13
sarnoldfunky: you could also run the DNS server in recursive mode, to provide some local caching of DNS answers for your network00:14
sarnoldfunky: (your ISP probably does this, and provides you with their recursive DNS addresses via dhcp fields)00:14
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funkyty, where I can find a good guide - how to setup ubuntu server with nginx and email server and some open source control panel?00:21
sarnoldfunky: not sure about nginx, but mail server will be documented here: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/00:30
sarnoldfunky: I'd like to suggest against control panels, those tend to be gigantic piles of bad programming.00:31
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funkysarnold what about http://webmasterguide.us/?p=12 ?01:09
funkythey seems to promise alot01:09
sarnoldfunky: I'm skeptical -- they started with php, usually a bad sign. also, unless they took the configuration file parsers right out of the packages they intend to suppport, writing parsers for them all correctly is immensely difficult01:11
zuladam_g:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35513/01:12
adam_gzul, i have no rights to that branch, but you have my symbolic +101:15
zuladam_g:  sweet! thanks01:15
funkysarnold how about paid control panels?01:16
sarnoldfunky: yeah, still very skeptical. they shell out for tasks that they should just do in php directly. entirely too many things are duplicated all over the place (shell escaping variables)....01:16
sarnoldfunky: I think it'd just be easier to learn the handful of things you want to configure anyway..01:17
funkyI know how to do it just wonder if it all can be automated01:17
funkyi could even code it with time01:17
funkythanks anyways01:18
sarnoldfunky: you might prefer to look at juju01:18
sarnoldfunky: you can prepare charms for the services you need, and write the configuration tools in whatevre language you wish, puppet or chef work too. but the large collection of existing juju charms is far more compelling to me than a handful of plugins for web 'control panel' things which have proven to be a fruitful source of exploits in the past01:19
thumperok, so how do I get an app to request elevation to root after it has been started?01:38
thumperif I go sudo first, it screws up a bunch of environmentstuff01:38
thumperso I want to request the user to type in their sudo password...01:39
cyberdynmy /devv/sdb1 "available" is 0, use%=100% /boot.... is this a problem?02:11
sarnoldyes :)02:14
sarnoldI suggest removing some old kernels before your next upgrade fails02:15
sarnolddpkg -l 'linux*' will help you find ones to remove02:15
cyberdynsarnold: i thought it was ;-)  just couldn't figure out how to fix it... google is good most of the time but.. sigh. frustrated. thus I am here.02:18
cyberdyn;-)02:18
sarnoldcyberdyn :)02:18
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adam_groaksoax, lp:~gandelman-a/charms/precise/cinder/pyrewrite this is "done" now, i think03:43
adam_groaksoax, gonna do a bit more testing /w juju-core and propose it for merge03:43
adam_gjamespage, ^03:43
adam_gjamespage, lp:~openstack-charmers/charm-tools/pyrewrite-helpers i've been keeping all the charm helper changes here, which is actively merged with upstream lp:charm-helpers03:44
adam_gjamespage, ill break that into more manageable changesets and start proposing them to charmhelpers. a straight merge would be a pretty huge i think03:45
adam_gjamespage, in the meantime you can set your sync config to pull from there until everythings been upstreamed. i need to adjust the sync script to pull the non-.py common template files that i moved to helpers03:46
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foo357Hello, I'm having some problems with cron/anacron. I want to run daily tasks at midnight and cron daily does trigger at that time, but for some reason anacron waits 7 hours until cron daily starts. Here's a log output: http://pastebin.com/ymnCFKFw06:48
jamespageadam_g, nice one07:37
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Davieyjamespage: Any reason why we shouldn't be doing Havana UCA progression?08:11
jamespageDaviey, well I'm sure there are minor niggles - but we should push to updates08:11
jamespageit is still in development after all08:11
Davieyyeah08:11
jamespageso no reason IMHO08:11
DavieyThere is also a bunch of new stuff in staging08:11
Davieyas in, not previously in the UCA08:12
jamespageDaviey, I really need to add a --just-do-it flag to cloud_get_work so it automatically passes -y to copy-package08:12
jamespageDaviey, yeah  - so we are including qemu and ovs this time round08:12
jamespageplus other new dependencies08:12
jamespageDaviey, I'm comfortable that everything in staging is required08:12
Davieyjamespage: 16 new packages (!)08:13
jamespageqemu needed some extra deps for the backport08:13
Davieyjamespage: damn, http://pb.daviey.com/iezD/08:17
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gartralhey all, I have a newer Blade Servre that I'm looking to migrate my current server too, any thoughts on best practices?08:39
gartraliv'e asked in #ubuntuserver, but thought I'd ask in here as an alternitive08:39
gartralthis migration consists of a direct HDD transplant from my current server to the new one08:39
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jamespagejdstrand, ping re bug 1187262 and libv8 attack surface09:26
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1187262 in snowball "[MIR] mongodb, libv8, snowball, gyp" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118726209:26
jamespagedid my response have the required information?09:26
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mgz_jamespage, zul: filed bug 119774510:22
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1197745 in python-novaclient "Rackspace authentication no longer supported" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119774510:22
mgz_seems to be the plugin that's needed: <https://github.com/rackspace/pyrax/blob/master/pyrax/identity/rax_identity.py>10:26
zulmgz: fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu11:02
mgz_zul: :)11:03
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zuljamespage:  trivial MP https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-ceilometerclient/1.0.1/+merge/17301512:15
moksud_xphellp12:31
moksud_xpthere is someone that can help me with ubuntu server configurations ?12:31
rbasak!ask | moksud_xp12:37
ubottumoksud_xp: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:37
moksud_xp!ask12:39
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:39
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zuljamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-keystoneclient/0.3.0/+merge/173022 and https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-ceilometerclient/1.0.1/+merge/173015 when you get a chance12:59
zuljamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-swiftclient/1.4.0/+merge/17302313:07
skritehey all13:30
jamespagezul: looking now13:43
zuljamespage:  thanks13:43
zuljamespage:  fyi upstream tarball for python-ceilometerclient  is missing  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35638/ but we have it covered in the packaging13:45
jamespagezul, all look ok13:45
zuljamespage:  thanks13:45
jamespageDaviey, how far did you get with havana CA?13:46
Davieyjamespage: It was all pushed to proposed..13:49
Davieyi sore one FTBFS13:49
Davieysore in the true sense.13:50
jamespageDaviey, hmm - some are due to missing versions on deps13:53
jamespagequite a few13:53
Davieyjamespage: Yeah, i planned to just rebuild when it was all settled13:53
jamespageI poked a few already13:53
Davieywhich it looks like you have done :)13:53
Davieysuper13:53
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Akuwi am using a wimax internet provider, how can i configure a server and see it from everywhere ?14:43
jamespageDaviey, almost there - just ceilometer - building now15:57
jamespagehallyn, zul: we should probably drop in a new ipxe snapshot at some point soon16:00
RoyKjust wonder, if xfs is part of the main repo, why aren't bugs addressed?16:03
RoyKxfsprogs, that is16:03
sebrockI need help in configuring a L2TP/IPSec VPN connection. It seems the IPSec is established. But L2TP does not open a tunnel. Anyone seen this before?16:06
CMOStevehey everybody, a quick question. what would one reccomend for somebody with one medium to highend VPS, and three local low to medium end dedicated servers, all runing ubuntu (VPS is 64bit....)16:15
CMOStevehadoop or proxypass16:15
CMOSteve?16:15
CMOSteveand is load balancing a cluster configuration with less than 10 servers reliable using apache ever a good option, is it reliable, should it ever be used in a production environment, both for development of products, but also client websites?16:17
zuljamespage:  why?16:19
jamespagezul, dunno - something we normally do early in release cycle16:21
jamespagewe had to cherry pick a fix for a ftbfs16:21
zuljamespage:  ah ack16:21
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smbjamespage, wasn't iscsitarget something I heard you say was fixed for 3.10 kernels?16:24
jamespagesmb: yes16:24
smbjamespage, Just did a dist-upgrade on a box that was installed. May I hand you the pieces? :)16:25
smbNeed to look into it more but it feels like it broke to apply a 3.9 compat patch still doing something to the currently running 3.9 kernel16:27
jamespagecan I see the dkms build log please16:29
jamespagesmb ^^16:29
smbjamespage, yeah I was just about to pastebin it for you16:30
smbjamespage, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5844070/16:32
jamespagesmb, I'd not actually tested it against a 3.9 kernel16:33
jamespagebah16:33
smbjamespage, Unfortunately when you are just upgrading you still got at least half of it around still16:34
jamespageokay16:34
jamespageI'll look tomorrow16:34
CMOStevehas anybody had experience with HAProxy? seems to fall in the middle kinda, might be just what i need...16:35
smbjamespage, Wait a sec, I try to repeat / fix the install. I mean this is mostly an issue while still having 3.9 and that won't last.16:36
jamespageit needs fixing - this all went upstream yesterday16:36
smboops ok16:37
vedicI have upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 using apt-get. While in 10.04, I had some libraries installed by compiling source eg: linear algebra and numerical computation related. Will I have to compile them again when 12.04 upgrade is done?16:52
Patrickdkvedic, hmm, you don't upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 using apt-get17:01
vedicPatrickdk: I don't remember the actual command but that was from terminal I started for upgrade.17:05
CMOSteveanybody have experience wtih HAProxy?17:06
brad100hello?17:44
brad100does anyone here use postfix&courier with thunderbird ?17:45
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Patrickdk!tell brad100 ask18:14
ubottuPatrickdk: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:14
Patrickdkheh18:14
Patrickdk!ask brad10018:14
cyberdynI have a question (or two) ;) about my GRUB boot and /boot space.. my /boot has updates up to .32 (on 11.10 server)... when I boot with the default grub choice, it does not boot correctly... I have to go to a previous grub choice.. .26 presently. --- could I delete .27 through .32 and update the system again?18:17
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adam_gjamespage, still around?19:02
adam_gzul, http://people.canonical.com/~agandelman/ca/grizzly/19:15
zuladam_g:  +119:16
adam_gzul, do you know if there is a sync in progress from havana staging out toward updates or should i also do the backports for everything required in http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/cloud-archive/havana_versions.html19:17
zuladam_g:  there isnt19:17
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wxlhow does one get wifi to automatically connect to a hidden ssid on boot? the installer could connect no problem and left the setup in /etc/network/interfaces20:19
MikeyMike01Is there something special I have to do in order to install to a USB drive? No matter what I've tried it boots to a solid black screen. If I hold Shift it says "GRUB loading" and nothing more.20:55
maxbGenerally no, nothing special. I would suggest trying the ubuntu server text mode installer, or perhaps the Debian installer if you prefer a smaller download just to validate that your machine's USB boot sequence is doing the right thing21:03
MikeyMike01I installed NAS4Free onto the USB stick and it booted without issue21:04
maxbWhat is the USB image you are trying to boot with problems?21:05
MikeyMike01what?21:05
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ruben231hi guys how do i add static route permanently on ubuntu server22:17
adam_gzul, http://people.canonical.com/~agandelman/ca/havana/ this will bring havana-staging up to date. also includes two newbies: python-anyjson and spice-html5 (needed by nova)22:50
adam_gjamespage, ^22:50
zuladam_g:  xen built fine?22:51

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