[00:10] <funky> hey hey :)
[00:10] <funky> if I run dns from domain name registrar cp I dont need to install bind right?
[00:11] <sarnold> funky: probably correct
[00:12] <funky> what for people use bind I, its when they want to run their own dns server?
[00:13] <sarnold> funky: DNS servers run in two modes, authoritative (publishing details about a domain or subdomain) and recursive (looking up data from other servers)
[00:14] <sarnold> funky: you could also run the DNS server in recursive mode, to provide some local caching of DNS answers for your network
[00:14] <sarnold> funky: (your ISP probably does this, and provides you with their recursive DNS addresses via dhcp fields)
[00:21] <funky> ty, where I can find a good guide - how to setup ubuntu server with nginx and email server and some open source control panel?
[00:30] <sarnold> funky: not sure about nginx, but mail server will be documented here: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/
[00:31] <sarnold> funky: I'd like to suggest against control panels, those tend to be gigantic piles of bad programming.
[01:09] <funky> sarnold what about http://webmasterguide.us/?p=12 ?
[01:09] <funky> they seems to promise alot
[01:11] <sarnold> funky: I'm skeptical -- they started with php, usually a bad sign. also, unless they took the configuration file parsers right out of the packages they intend to suppport, writing parsers for them all correctly is immensely difficult
[01:12] <zul> adam_g:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35513/
[01:15] <adam_g> zul, i have no rights to that branch, but you have my symbolic +1
[01:15] <zul> adam_g:  sweet! thanks
[01:16] <funky> sarnold how about paid control panels?
[01:16] <sarnold> funky: yeah, still very skeptical. they shell out for tasks that they should just do in php directly. entirely too many things are duplicated all over the place (shell escaping variables)....
[01:17] <sarnold> funky: I think it'd just be easier to learn the handful of things you want to configure anyway..
[01:17] <funky> I know how to do it just wonder if it all can be automated
[01:17] <funky> i could even code it with time
[01:18] <funky> thanks anyways
[01:18] <sarnold> funky: you might prefer to look at juju
[01:19] <sarnold> funky: you can prepare charms for the services you need, and write the configuration tools in whatevre language you wish, puppet or chef work too. but the large collection of existing juju charms is far more compelling to me than a handful of plugins for web 'control panel' things which have proven to be a fruitful source of exploits in the past
[01:38] <thumper> ok, so how do I get an app to request elevation to root after it has been started?
[01:38] <thumper> if I go sudo first, it screws up a bunch of environmentstuff
[01:39] <thumper> so I want to request the user to type in their sudo password...
[02:11] <cyberdyn> my /devv/sdb1 "available" is 0, use%=100% /boot.... is this a problem?
[02:14] <sarnold> yes :)
[02:15] <sarnold> I suggest removing some old kernels before your next upgrade fails
[02:15] <sarnold> dpkg -l 'linux*' will help you find ones to remove
[02:18] <cyberdyn> sarnold: i thought it was ;-)  just couldn't figure out how to fix it... google is good most of the time but.. sigh. frustrated. thus I am here.
[02:18] <cyberdyn> ;-)
[02:18] <sarnold> cyberdyn :)
[03:43] <adam_g> roaksoax, lp:~gandelman-a/charms/precise/cinder/pyrewrite this is "done" now, i think
[03:43] <adam_g> roaksoax, gonna do a bit more testing /w juju-core and propose it for merge
[03:43] <adam_g> jamespage, ^
[03:44] <adam_g> jamespage, lp:~openstack-charmers/charm-tools/pyrewrite-helpers i've been keeping all the charm helper changes here, which is actively merged with upstream lp:charm-helpers
[03:45] <adam_g> jamespage, ill break that into more manageable changesets and start proposing them to charmhelpers. a straight merge would be a pretty huge i think
[03:46] <adam_g> jamespage, in the meantime you can set your sync config to pull from there until everythings been upstreamed. i need to adjust the sync script to pull the non-.py common template files that i moved to helpers
[06:48] <foo357> Hello, I'm having some problems with cron/anacron. I want to run daily tasks at midnight and cron daily does trigger at that time, but for some reason anacron waits 7 hours until cron daily starts. Here's a log output: http://pastebin.com/ymnCFKFw
[07:37] <jamespage> adam_g, nice one
[08:11] <Daviey> jamespage: Any reason why we shouldn't be doing Havana UCA progression?
[08:11] <jamespage> Daviey, well I'm sure there are minor niggles - but we should push to updates
[08:11] <jamespage> it is still in development after all
[08:11] <Daviey> yeah
[08:11] <jamespage> so no reason IMHO
[08:11] <Daviey> There is also a bunch of new stuff in staging
[08:12] <Daviey> as in, not previously in the UCA
[08:12] <jamespage> Daviey, I really need to add a --just-do-it flag to cloud_get_work so it automatically passes -y to copy-package
[08:12] <jamespage> Daviey, yeah  - so we are including qemu and ovs this time round
[08:12] <jamespage> plus other new dependencies
[08:12] <jamespage> Daviey, I'm comfortable that everything in staging is required
[08:13] <Daviey> jamespage: 16 new packages (!)
[08:13] <jamespage> qemu needed some extra deps for the backport
[08:17] <Daviey> jamespage: damn, http://pb.daviey.com/iezD/
[08:39] <gartral> hey all, I have a newer Blade Servre that I'm looking to migrate my current server too, any thoughts on best practices?
[08:39] <gartral> iv'e asked in #ubuntuserver, but thought I'd ask in here as an alternitive
[08:39] <gartral> this migration consists of a direct HDD transplant from my current server to the new one
[09:26] <jamespage> jdstrand, ping re bug 1187262 and libv8 attack surface
[09:26] <jamespage> did my response have the required information?
[10:22] <mgz_> jamespage, zul: filed bug 1197745
[10:26] <mgz_> seems to be the plugin that's needed: <https://github.com/rackspace/pyrax/blob/master/pyrax/identity/rax_identity.py>
[11:02] <zul> mgz: fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[11:03] <mgz_> zul: :)
[12:15] <zul> jamespage:  trivial MP https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-ceilometerclient/1.0.1/+merge/173015
[12:31] <moksud_xp> hellp
[12:31] <moksud_xp> there is someone that can help me with ubuntu server configurations ?
[12:37] <rbasak> !ask | moksud_xp
[12:39] <moksud_xp> !ask
[12:59] <zul> jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-keystoneclient/0.3.0/+merge/173022 and https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-ceilometerclient/1.0.1/+merge/173015 when you get a chance
[13:07] <zul> jamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-swiftclient/1.4.0/+merge/173023
[13:30] <skrite> hey all
[13:43] <jamespage> zul: looking now
[13:43] <zul> jamespage:  thanks
[13:45] <zul> jamespage:  fyi upstream tarball for python-ceilometerclient  is missing  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35638/ but we have it covered in the packaging
[13:45] <jamespage> zul, all look ok
[13:45] <zul> jamespage:  thanks
[13:46] <jamespage> Daviey, how far did you get with havana CA?
[13:49] <Daviey> jamespage: It was all pushed to proposed..
[13:49] <Daviey> i sore one FTBFS
[13:50] <Daviey> sore in the true sense.
[13:53] <jamespage> Daviey, hmm - some are due to missing versions on deps
[13:53] <jamespage> quite a few
[13:53] <Daviey> jamespage: Yeah, i planned to just rebuild when it was all settled
[13:53] <jamespage> I poked a few already
[13:53] <Daviey> which it looks like you have done :)
[13:53] <Daviey> super
[14:43] <Akuw> i am using a wimax internet provider, how can i configure a server and see it from everywhere ?
[15:57] <jamespage> Daviey, almost there - just ceilometer - building now
[16:00] <jamespage> hallyn, zul: we should probably drop in a new ipxe snapshot at some point soon
[16:03] <RoyK> just wonder, if xfs is part of the main repo, why aren't bugs addressed?
[16:03] <RoyK> xfsprogs, that is
[16:06] <sebrock> I need help in configuring a L2TP/IPSec VPN connection. It seems the IPSec is established. But L2TP does not open a tunnel. Anyone seen this before?
[16:15] <CMOSteve> hey everybody, a quick question. what would one reccomend for somebody with one medium to highend VPS, and three local low to medium end dedicated servers, all runing ubuntu (VPS is 64bit....)
[16:15] <CMOSteve> hadoop or proxypass
[16:15] <CMOSteve> ?
[16:17] <CMOSteve> and is load balancing a cluster configuration with less than 10 servers reliable using apache ever a good option, is it reliable, should it ever be used in a production environment, both for development of products, but also client websites?
[16:19] <zul> jamespage:  why?
[16:21] <jamespage> zul, dunno - something we normally do early in release cycle
[16:21] <jamespage> we had to cherry pick a fix for a ftbfs
[16:21] <zul> jamespage:  ah ack
[16:24] <smb> jamespage, wasn't iscsitarget something I heard you say was fixed for 3.10 kernels?
[16:24] <jamespage> smb: yes
[16:25] <smb> jamespage, Just did a dist-upgrade on a box that was installed. May I hand you the pieces? :)
[16:27] <smb> Need to look into it more but it feels like it broke to apply a 3.9 compat patch still doing something to the currently running 3.9 kernel
[16:29] <jamespage> can I see the dkms build log please
[16:29] <jamespage> smb ^^
[16:30] <smb> jamespage, yeah I was just about to pastebin it for you
[16:32] <smb> jamespage, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5844070/
[16:33] <jamespage> smb, I'd not actually tested it against a 3.9 kernel
[16:33] <jamespage> bah
[16:34] <smb> jamespage, Unfortunately when you are just upgrading you still got at least half of it around still
[16:34] <jamespage> okay
[16:34] <jamespage> I'll look tomorrow
[16:35] <CMOSteve> has anybody had experience with HAProxy? seems to fall in the middle kinda, might be just what i need...
[16:36] <smb> jamespage, Wait a sec, I try to repeat / fix the install. I mean this is mostly an issue while still having 3.9 and that won't last.
[16:36] <jamespage> it needs fixing - this all went upstream yesterday
[16:37] <smb> oops ok
[16:52] <vedic> I have upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 using apt-get. While in 10.04, I had some libraries installed by compiling source eg: linear algebra and numerical computation related. Will I have to compile them again when 12.04 upgrade is done?
[17:01] <Patrickdk> vedic, hmm, you don't upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 using apt-get
[17:05] <vedic> Patrickdk: I don't remember the actual command but that was from terminal I started for upgrade.
[17:06] <CMOSteve> anybody have experience wtih HAProxy?
[17:44] <brad100> hello?
[17:45] <brad100> does anyone here use postfix&courier with thunderbird ?
[18:14] <Patrickdk> !tell brad100 ask
[18:14] <Patrickdk> heh
[18:14] <Patrickdk> !ask brad100
[18:17] <cyberdyn> I have a question (or two) ;) about my GRUB boot and /boot space.. my /boot has updates up to .32 (on 11.10 server)... when I boot with the default grub choice, it does not boot correctly... I have to go to a previous grub choice.. .26 presently. --- could I delete .27 through .32 and update the system again?
[19:02] <adam_g> jamespage, still around?
[19:15] <adam_g> zul, http://people.canonical.com/~agandelman/ca/grizzly/
[19:16] <zul> adam_g:  +1
[19:17] <adam_g> zul, do you know if there is a sync in progress from havana staging out toward updates or should i also do the backports for everything required in http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/cloud-archive/havana_versions.html
[19:17] <zul> adam_g:  there isnt
[20:19] <wxl> how does one get wifi to automatically connect to a hidden ssid on boot? the installer could connect no problem and left the setup in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:55] <MikeyMike01> Is there something special I have to do in order to install to a USB drive? No matter what I've tried it boots to a solid black screen. If I hold Shift it says "GRUB loading" and nothing more.
[21:03] <maxb> Generally no, nothing special. I would suggest trying the ubuntu server text mode installer, or perhaps the Debian installer if you prefer a smaller download just to validate that your machine's USB boot sequence is doing the right thing
[21:04] <MikeyMike01> I installed NAS4Free onto the USB stick and it booted without issue
[21:05] <maxb> What is the USB image you are trying to boot with problems?
[21:05] <MikeyMike01> what?
[22:17] <ruben231> hi guys how do i add static route permanently on ubuntu server
[22:50] <adam_g> zul, http://people.canonical.com/~agandelman/ca/havana/ this will bring havana-staging up to date. also includes two newbies: python-anyjson and spice-html5 (needed by nova)
[22:50] <adam_g> jamespage, ^
[22:51] <zul> adam_g:  xen built fine?