[00:13] <markovh> i'm having some trouble getting ubuntu on s2 working. i had cm 10.1 nightly build installed. did a factory reset and installed both zips mentioned on the forum/wiki http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2188621 but i'm getting a blank screen when i boot
[00:13] <markovh> i can do adb shell and i can get in but no su access so no access to dmesg
[00:46] <markovh> i was half hoping someone may have some old mirrors of copies of a build that worked seeing as others are having the same issues
[01:31] <cyphermox> rsalveti: rockin', I fixed the issue with indicator-server, the merge is good
[01:31] <rsalveti> cyphermox: awesome
[01:31] <cyphermox> I'll bring up a MR with the needed changes
[01:32] <rsalveti> cyphermox: so should we approve that mr? or are you replacing it with another one?
[01:32] <cyphermox> let's approve, and I'll push a MR on top
[01:32] <rsalveti> ok
[01:33] <rsalveti> cyphermox: please approve them, as you tested it
[01:33] <rsalveti> *then
[01:33] <rsalveti> tomorrow's image should be a good one :-)
[01:52] <cyphermox> rsalveti: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/indicator-server/null-detailed-action/+merge/172940
[01:52] <cyphermox> indeed, tomorrow's is going to be pretty cool
[01:52] <cyphermox> note, you'll still need to use nmcli to disconnect data, that got broken in my code it seems
[01:52] <cyphermox> something's not looking for the wwan state before activating connections or not
[01:53] <cyphermox> so when you flip the switch, it does disconnect but then it tries to auto-activate the connection again.
[01:53] <rsalveti> right
[01:53] <rsalveti> we can fix that tomorrow :-)
[01:53] <rsalveti> will test your mr in a few
[02:15] <cyphermox> so, /me logs off for the night
[02:16] <cyphermox> rsalveti: good night, talk to you tomorrow, I'll fix the actual wwan disable to work properly
[02:16] <rsalveti> cyphermox: sure, cya, have a good night
[02:16] <cyphermox> you too
[02:35] <RobbyF> how is the email client so far?
[03:29] <rigved> hi everyone.
[03:49] <rigved> i just did a "phablet-flash -b"
[03:50] <rigved> my nexus 7 has rebooted into CWM
[03:50] <rigved> what should i do now?
[03:51] <rigved> i have got a message: autodeploy.zip not found
[03:53] <rigved> ignore my previous messages.
[03:54] <rigved> i was not patient. its rebooting now!
[04:03] <rigved> as per the Release Notes, I need to run "ubuntu_chroot shell". But now that we are using flipped images, we do not need to do this, right?
[05:02] <airdrone> hi, can we do ubuntu touch developement on desktop running raring
[05:03] <airdrone> with no touch support on desktop
[05:08] <rigved> airdrone: yes, i believe. read this post to get setup: http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/07/join-the-ubuntu-touch-core-apps-development-team/
[05:08] <rigved> airdrone: you can just run the apps on your desktop and use your mouse and keyboard to emulate touch input
[06:20] <TobyK> looks like the touch-coreapps package is broken on 11.04: touch-coreapps : Depends: stock-ticker-mobile-app but it is not installable                   Depends: dropping-letters but it is not going to be installed
[06:24] <rigved> TobyK: i am not able to replicate that issue. have you run "sudo apt-get update" before trying to install the meta-package?
[06:25] <TobyK> I ran exactly this as per David Planella's post: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/daily && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install touch-coreapps
[06:28] <rigved> TobyK: are you running this directly on your touch device?
[06:28] <TobyK> no on desktop
[06:29] <rigved> TobyK: ah. ok. i have run this on my touch device.
[06:29] <TobyK> I am also running a touch device (nexus 7),which is working fine
[06:29] <rigved> let me try on my desktop then.
[06:30] <rigved> TobyK: which version of Ubuntu are you running on your desktop?
[06:30] <TobyK> 11.04
[06:30] <TobyK> wait I mean 13.04
[06:30] <TobyK> sorry
[06:31] <rigved> TobyK: ok.
[06:31] <rigved> i do not have a 13.04 machine around to test.
[06:32] <TobyK> ok no prob
[06:32] <rigved> TobyK: you should ask again here after a few hours, when the touch developers come online
[06:32] <TobyK> will do, thanks rigved
[06:32] <rigved> TobyK: just out of curiosity, what version of the touch-coreapps are you trying to install?
[06:33] <TobyK> version? I'm not sure - the latest I guess.
[06:33] <rigved> TobyK: apt-cache policy touch-coreapps
[06:33] <rigved> TobyK: run that command on your desktop machine
[06:33] <TobyK> touch-coreapps:   Installed: (none)   Candidate: 1.0.6   Version table:      1.0.6 0         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/daily/ubuntu/ raring/main amd64 Packages
[06:34] <rigved> TobyK: ok. i can see that it was uploaded by popey a few hours back
[06:34] <rigved> you should contact him
[06:35] <TobyK> ok
[06:36] <rigved> TobyK: i just checked and it seems that 13.10 is using 1.0.4
[06:36] <rigved> so, maybe some issue there
[06:37] <rigved> and the 13.10 package seems fine.
[06:37] <rigved> sorry i cannot help
[06:52] <dholbach> good morning
[06:59] <rigved> dholbach: good morning
[06:59] <dholbach> hi rigved
[07:00] <rigved> dholbach: hi
[07:17] <popey> TobyK: can you pastebin the entire output of doing the "sudo apt-get install touch-coreapps" please?
[07:19] <TobyK> popey: sure
[07:20] <TobyK> http://pastebin.com/rZ87Q1zk
[07:20] <popey> thanks
[07:21] <popey> TobyK: can you "sudo apt-get install stock-ticker-mobile-app dropping-letters" and pastebin the output please?
[07:22] <TobyK> http://pastebin.com/ZgaHze1M
[07:23] <popey> aha
[07:23] <popey> TobyK: you're on 13.04?
[07:23] <TobyK> yes
[07:26] <popey> TobyK: ok, thanks, fixing it
[07:26] <TobyK> excellent :-)
[07:26] <TobyK> I have an even bigger issue tho on my Nexus 7 - running a saucy build, I did an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade an hour ago, rebooted, not the phone shell doesn't come up
[07:27] <TobyK> it boots up with blank screen - I've left it for 10 mins and still blank screen
[07:28] <popey> i see other reports of the same issue
[07:29] <TobyK> I can see the backlight on, and it responds to power button, but nothing else, no swipes, etc.
[07:29] <popey> i believe its being worked on
[07:29] <TobyK> ok, I'll phablet-flash tomorrow :)
[07:29] <popey> you may be able to update/upgrade a bit later
[07:30] <TobyK> how? I can't get to terminal
[07:30] <popey> connect a cable, adb shell
[07:30] <TobyK> aahh ok
[07:30] <TobyK> excellent, thank you
[07:30] <popey> np
[07:36] <popey> TobyK: try "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install stock-ticker-mobile-app" now?
[07:41] <TobyK> ok
[07:43] <TobyK> popey: it worked! thanks :)
[07:43] <popey> great
[07:43] <popey> sorry about that
[07:43] <TobyK> dropping-letters is still a problem
[07:45] <popey> ok, so pastebin "sudo apt-get install dropping-letters" pls
[07:46] <TobyK> http://pastebin.com/RYuLqTEn
[07:49] <popey> TobyK: ok, fixing
[07:56] <popey> TobyK: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install dropping-letters
[07:56] <TobyK> ok
[07:57] <elkng> soon there will be smartphones with ubuntu released at fall ?
[07:57] <elkng> or only for tablets ?
[07:58] <TobyK> popey: looing good, it needs to install a bunch of new stuff like julius
[07:59] <popey> TobyK: thanks for helping, sorry it was broken for you
[07:59] <TobyK> popey: no prob, thanks for fixing
[08:13] <lool> ogra_: Hmm asac was telling me the other day that touch builds take 2.5 hours+ just for assembling the actual image; but checking the livefs log it seems to be more along 50mn or so
[08:13] <lool> ogra_: perhaps it's much faster on the livefs buildd than in jenkins; would you know how long it took there?
[08:19] <anas> hellow
[08:29] <JamesTait> Good morning all, happy Upload A Virus To The Alien Mothership Day! :-D
[08:38] <elkng> JamesTait: what ?
[08:38] <elkng> is today that day ?
[08:38] <elkng> or you mean today is "independent day" ?
[08:39] <elkng> its really interesting what those virus was written in ? macro virus ?
[08:39] <JamesTait> elkng, IIRC, in the movie Independence Day, the aliens invaded on Jul 2, destroyed several cities on Jul 3, and were destroyed by a primitive human computer virus on the Jul 4th. :)
[08:39] <elkng> "invaded on Jul 2" that was my birthday
[08:40] <elkng> no pun intended
[08:40] <JamesTait> I knew it!
[08:40] <JamesTait> You're one of them!
[08:40] <JamesTait> elkng, as for the details of how the virus worked, it's all in the deleted scenes. ;)
[08:42] <elkng> patented technology
[08:43] <elkng> multiplatform virus
[08:43] <elkng> could be in java
[08:43] <elkng> run everywhere
[09:10] <ogra_> lool, hey, i said 90min-2h ... it used to be closer to 90min before we started to actually use a packaged initramfs (so i dont need to generate one for each arch) and when the whole stuff that was post processing the images was not moved into cdimage ... with the code in cdimage and a packaged initrd it got a lot faster already
[09:13] <lool> ogra_: do you have the same conclusion that it's around 50mn these days?
[09:13] <ogra_> yeah, with mirroring etc its more like 1h, but it definitely got faster the last week with the changes
[09:14] <ogra_> (my desktp does it in 20min though :P )
[09:14] <lool> ogra_: mirroring is turnaround time but not build time though
[09:14] <ogra_> yeah
[09:14] <lool> ok cool
[09:15] <lool> well it's not as bad as I feared then
[09:15] <ogra_> it used to be and it wasnt clear how much the changes for image based updates will add
[09:16] <ogra_> (it still isnt, but as long as we stay under the 90min turnaround time it should be fine)
[09:16] <ogra_> i know xz processing on pandas is a lot slower than gz
[09:16] <ogra_> we measured that in the past
[09:17] <ogra_> (like 4x as slow or some such, i dont remember the exact numbers but it was significant)
[09:18] <ogra_> and we are not generating the android side yet, that will also add up
[09:19] <ogra_> (wont be much since we only unpack and recompress packaged content i guess but i wouldnt be surprised if we end up at 90min again)
[09:22] <elkng> does anyone know what "Duden" means in german ?
[09:29] <ogra_> elkng, Duden is a famous german dictionary (kind of the equivalent to the oxford dictionary in english)
[11:09] <xnox> ogra_: you have heard about latest addition to Duden, right? =)))) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23142660
[11:11] <ogra_> xnox, heh, yeah
[11:11] <xnox> ogra_: is it really that widely used?! =)
[11:12] <ogra_> over the course of the last year it definitely was a lot
[11:12] <xnox> Warum nicht Scheißesturm sagen? =)))))
[11:12] <netcurli> :D
[11:12] <ogra_> well, it comes out of social networks
[11:14] <ogra_> the opposite is a "candystorm" btw :)
[11:15] <popey> no way!
[11:15] <ogra_> (if people change their mid you end up with cand on top of ... "
[11:15] <ogra_> )
[11:15] <ogra_> *mind
[11:24] <rigved> As per the Release Notes, I need to run "ubuntu_chroot shell". But now that we are using flipped images, we do not need to do this, right?
[11:24] <eylith> Hi
[11:26] <eylith> Just a suggestion for the installation page here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[11:27] <eylith> for those who have a compatible phone, rooted and a custom recovery
[11:27] <ogra_> rigved, right, it would be great if you could change the wiki :)
[11:28] <rigved> ogra_: ok. changing.
[11:28] <ogra_> yay, you rock :)
[11:28] <eylith> they just have to put the two .zip file on the phone, flash them with the custom recovery
[11:28] <eylith> it works, people don't even need adb
[11:28] <eylith> (manual way)
[11:28] <eylith> it could be interesting to write it
[11:29] <ogra_> eylith, sure you can, but not all recovery modes have the same menus so using the adb way is a safe bet that works on all of them
[11:30] <ogra_> feel free to add something below the adb/autodeploy.zip shtuff, how to do it with different recovery modes the way you describe
[11:30] <ogra_> (note that with flipped the flashing order is essential)
[11:30] <eylith> eh
[11:31] <eylith> ogra_: I'm not sure I can edit the page
[11:31] <ogra_> you need to log in indeed
[11:31] <eylith> eylith: but if you know how to flash a android rom, you know how to flash this
[11:31] <eylith> this is obvious
[11:32] <ogra_> if you are that clever you might not even need/read the instructions :)
[11:32] <eylith> ogra_: actualy, i was really sure that if you say to use adb, it was a good reason
[11:33] <ogra_> there are plans to enhance phablet-flash to also support ported builds btw
[11:33] <eylith> like wipping the recovery, I don't know
[11:33] <eylith> anyway, thanks for the infos ogra_ and sorry for bothering you ^^
[11:33] <ogra_> well, wiping the recovery only works from fsatboot/bootloader mode
[11:34] <ogra_> heh, you dont bother me :) no worries
[11:34] <ogra_> (if i dont want to be bothered, i ignore IRC ;) )
[11:43] <rigved> also, on my nexus 7 running the latest image, i cannot find the following files:
[11:43] <rigved> manage-address-books.py
[11:43] <rigved> /etc/tablet-services
[11:43] <rigved> /usr/share/dbus-1/services/com.canonical.Unity.Lens.MockMusic.service
[11:43] <ogra_> it could well be that this was dropped with the dropping of the demo data
[11:43] <rigved> /usr/share/dbus-1/services/com.canonical.Unity.Lens.MockVideos.service
[11:43] <rigved> ogra_: oh ok.
[11:44] <ogra_> tablet-services is definitely gone (was merged into device-services)
[11:44] <rigved> what should i do with that section of the release notes?
[11:44] <ogra_> and will soon be gone completely if we have proper session setup
[11:44] <ogra_> wipe it i'd say
[11:45] <rigved> ogra_: ok. love deleting stuff!
[11:45] <ogra_> :)
[11:46] <rigved> and what about this line:
[11:46] <rigved> Ubuntu runs inside a custom container which uses a partitioned PID namespace. Using SSH allows a shell to be created within the new container, and thus have a proper view of the Ubuntu PID namespace.
[11:46] <rigved> this is also no longer true right?
[11:46] <ogra_> uh, yeah, not true anymore
[11:46] <rigved> ogra_: cool.
[11:47] <rigved> ogra_: instead of deleting this line, i'll strike it through. Coz i don't know what to replace it with.
[11:48] <ogra_> ok
[12:06] <esigolo> Hello everyone
[12:08] <deiu> (and the NSA)
[12:10] <ogra_> deiu, while the NSA might capture us, the filters will only fire if you say i,e, bomb
[12:10] <ogra_> oops now i did :P
[12:11] <esigolo> ogra_: LOL
[12:12] <rigved> in fact, the entire section of sample content on the release notes page can be removed, right?
[12:13] <ogra_> well, there is an option in phablet-flash that allows you to install it ... it should be replaced by that
[12:13] <ogra_> s/it/the old demos for presenting/
[12:14] <rigved> ogra_: ah. then i am not removing that part.
[12:14] <rigved> it also might be the reason that i do not have the manage-address-books.py file
[12:14] <ogra_> yeah, ask sergiusens for exact steps to replace it with (once he is up)
[12:14] <ogra_> right
[12:17] <rigved> ogra_: ok. will do so.
[12:26] <davmor2> it maybe my imagination or possibly just a fix that landed with the flip image but the galaxy nexus seems to be running a lot smoother when more apps are open now than it was
[12:31] <rigved> how do i go back to the previous page in the web browser? i am running the latest touch image on a nexus 7
[12:32] <popey> pull up from the bottom and press back
[12:33] <rigved> popey: should i pull up till the magnifying glass?
[12:34] <rigved> because when i pull up from the bottom, i do not get the toolbar
[12:34] <popey> no
[12:34] <popey> just pull up a short way
[12:35] <rigved> popey: no, nothing comes up when i pull up the short way.
[12:35] <rigved> forgot to mention. i was in the gmail app and clicked on a link in an email. now, i can't go back to the email list
[12:36] <popey> ah
[12:36] <rigved> i am assuming this is still the web browser
[12:36] <popey> you're in a chromeless browser, so there is no url bar
[12:36] <popey> which is a known issue
[12:36] <rigved> ahh ok.
[12:36] <rigved> is there a bug report for it?
[12:36] <davmor2> rigved: yeah so that is a web app pull up to the magnifier and try the back button in the hud it works on some apps but not others
[12:37] <popey> bug 1116412
[12:37] <ubot5`> bug 1116412 in webbrowser-app "[browser] webapps should have the chrome bar with only back & forward buttons enabled" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1116412
[12:37] <gema> guys, have you noticed the device number?
[12:37] <popey> the what?
[12:38] <gema> popey: adb devices
[12:38] <gema> popey: we cannot choose device in the lab anymore
[12:38] <rigved> davmor2: in the hud for the gmail app, there is no back button. when i click on the "type or say a command" field, the on-screen keyboard does not come up
[12:38] <rigved> so, unable to seach for the back button there either
[12:38] <ogra_> gema, you definitely should look at adb ... but use the USB info of your host
[12:38] <davmor2> :(
[12:38] <ogra_> *shouldn't
[12:39] <ogra_> i dont know who had that mad idea,  seems people use adb stuff everywhere ... it isnt and was never guaranteed to give you the right info
[12:39] <gema> ogra_: you mean we should be using ro.boot.serialno?
[12:39] <ogra_> (teh sdk does that too :( )
[12:39] <ogra_> gema, you should look at your PCs USB info
[12:40] <ogra_> the wire gives you exact info about the attached HW
[12:40] <gema> ogra_: unfortunately we are not in the lab
[12:40] <ogra_> dont rely on some third party SW that can change at any time
[12:40] <rigved> popey: thanks
[12:40] <gema> ogra_: ok, will talk to plars whenever he is back
[12:40] <rigved> davmor2: thanks
[12:41] <gema> ogra_: I thought the flipping of the images changed that serial number behaviour
[12:41] <ogra_> gema, alternatively you can indeed use getprop or read it from other android bits, but even that isnt guaranteed to stay as is
[12:41] <ogra_> gema, right, it did
[12:41] <gema> ogra_: we need to have a way to choose which device we run tests on
[12:42] <ogra_> adbd doesnt work exactly the same way if running in ubuntu
[12:42] <ogra_> gema, right, look at the USB info
[12:42] <gema> ogra_: are you telling me it cannot be fixed or you are not planning on fixing or what
[12:42] <gema> ogra_: we need to be using the supported method in the lab
[12:42] <ogra_> it can change at any time
[12:42] <gema> one that is actually reliable
[12:42] <ogra_> it isnt a reliable source
[12:42] <gema> and will be fixed when broken
[12:43] <ogra_> gema, as i said, use reliable hardware info
[12:43] <ogra_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5843403/
[12:44] <ogra_> (dmesg ... you should be able to get  that info somewhere in sysfs on the host too)
[12:44] <gema> ogra_: what did you run, lsusb?
[12:44] <ogra_> dmesg|tail :)
[12:45] <gema> ogra_: not very reliable in the lab
[12:45] <ogra_> there must be a sysfs node with that info
[12:45] <gema> with things connecting and disconnecting all the time
[12:45] <ogra_> no idea where
[12:45] <gema> ok
[12:45] <ogra_> have someone fidn it :)
[12:45] <gema> will do
[12:45] <ogra_> cant be more reliable than the actual HW
[12:45] <ogra_> ;)
[12:45] <popey> need a usb switch like the vga one
[12:47] <esigolo> adb
[12:49] <ogra_> ogra@chromebook:~$ cat /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1/product
[12:49] <ogra_> Galaxy Nexus
[12:50] <ogra_> gema, .... just walk the subdirs in /sys/bus/usb/devices/ and read "product" to find whats attached where
[12:50] <gema> ogra_: are you serious?
[12:50] <ogra_> re-plugging grouper ...
[12:50] <ogra_> ogra@chromebook:~$ cat /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1/product
[12:50] <ogra_> Nexus 7
[12:51] <gema> on a machine with several devices of each you want us to guess like that?
[12:51] <ogra_> guess ?
[12:51] <gema> yep, we need to identify not just the type of device, but its serial number so that we don't use it twice at the same time
[12:51] <ogra_> the above is obviously attached to usb port 1 as device 1
[12:52] <ogra_> ogra@chromebook:~$ cat /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1/serial
[12:52] <ogra_> 015d2109ce281010
[12:52] <ogra_> like that ?
[12:52] <jibel> gema, you'll get a reliable serial from /sys/bus/usb/devices/<usb id>/serial
[12:52] <jibel> gema, usb id is always the same for a given usb port
[12:52] <ogra_> thsi cant and wont change since it is provided by the chip in the phone
[12:53] <ogra_> no matter what adb does on top
[12:53] <gema> ogra_: ok, we'll work on that
[12:53] <jeet_> Hi
[12:53] <ogra_> gema, if tou have a proper implementation it would be cool to publish it soe the sdk guys and others coudll use it too
[12:54] <jeet_> Hi guys
[12:54] <gema> ogra_: we don't have it yet
[12:54] <jeet_> I'm trying to install ubuntu on galaxy s2
[12:54] <jeet_> nned help
[12:54] <jeet_> *need help
[12:54] <ogra_> we need to get off that SW based device recognition everywhere
[12:54] <gema> ogra_: and I still think there is value in you guys fixing the serial number thing
[12:54] <gema> ogra_: but I agree we shouldn't be relying in adb
[12:55] <gema> not in the lab, anyway
[12:55] <ogra_> jeet_, talk to the porting person, there is usually a link to an xda theread on the device wikpage
[12:55] <pureCenor> Hello everyone. Is there a possibility to see how the calc app looks in landscape?
[12:57] <jeet_> Ogra_, I did go through the XDA thread. And followed the steps. While flashing saucy-preinstalled-armel-i9100.zip it failed
[12:57] <Fo2adZz> Hi there, I have a question and I need some guidance
[12:57] <ogra_> well, we dont maintain that here, talk to the porter on the thread
[12:57] <jeet_> okay
[12:57] <jeet_> thnx
[12:58] <popey> pureCenor: you can start the calculator app on the desktop and then resize the window?
[12:58] <ogra_> (or make him hang around here, then you can surely ask him here :) )
[12:58] <popey> I dont think it does anything special when you resize though
[12:58] <Fo2adZz> I'm trying to port Ubuntu touch to a beaglebone board, is it feasible? and is the porting page sufficient to do the porting?
[12:58] <jibel> gema,  for x in ls /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/; do [ -e "$x/product" -a -e "$x/serial" ] && echo -e "$(cat $x/serial)\t$(cat $x/product)"; done
[12:58] <ogra_> Fo2adZz, well, you will need a touchscreen based cape for it indeed
[12:58] <jibel> gema, and add a grep to get only the devices you want
[12:59] <pureCenor> popey: awesome, thx
[12:59] <ogra_> Fo2adZz, beyond that it should be doable using the BBB android port
[12:59] <ogra_> as a base
[12:59] <esigolo> ogra_: are the last image working good ?
[12:59] <gema> jibel: that's something that will be done by paul or whoever is caring for that machine
[12:59] <esigolo> i mean calls, msg, 3?
[12:59] <ogra_> esigolo, well, 03.1 worked fine for me
[12:59] <gema> jibel: but I make a note of your command
[13:00] <esigolo> ogra_: you have a mako too right?
[13:00] <ogra_> esigolo, only as my provate phone, i dont install Ubuntu Touch on it ... my work devices are maguro and grouper
[13:00] <plars> gema: hi, are you talking about the one that was showing up as 0123456789ABCDEF
[13:00] <gema> plars: yes
[13:00] <plars> gema: it's "fixed" now
[13:00] <gema> plars: how?
[13:01] <plars> gema: I was hitting a problem starting yesterday on mako and manta where it loses it's mind after reboot
[13:01] <plars> gema: still trying to sort out why
[13:01] <gema> plars: I see it on my device here, javier sees it on his device at home
[13:01] <gema> are you saying you don't see it in the lab anymore?
[13:01] <plars> gema: at home, it works fine for me on my mako, but starting yesterday, whenever those two device types reboot in the lab, I have to kill the adb server and restart it before things become sane again
[13:01] <Fo2adZz> orga_ thanks a lot for the reply
[13:01] <plars> gema: mine works fine at home
[13:02] <gema> plars: what about following ogra's and jibel's suggestion?
[13:02] <plars> gema: of looking at the usb id?
[13:02] <gema> and using the sysfs information to identify the devices
[13:02] <gema> yep
[13:02] <plars> gema: I'm unclear on how we pass that to adb... wasn't sure that was an option
[13:02] <AskUbuntu> Building Application Package for Ubuntu Touch -> Error | http://askubuntu.com/q/316298
[13:02] <Fo2adZz> I have android working but im connecting to the board using a vnc server... would i be able to do the same with Ubuntu?
[13:02] <gema> plars: ok, I am sending us an email anyway
[13:02] <plars> gema: if that's a better way of giving adb the device id, I wonder why it wasn't used all along as the adb id of the device
[13:02] <gema> we'll work it out
[13:03] <gema> plars: we are not the only ones with this problem
[13:03] <gema> I'd rather avoid workarounds that have everyone hitting their heads against a wall
[13:08] <xnox> ogra_: http://people.canonical.com/~xnox/product/ it would be nice to test them flipped/unflipped on all 4 images for any surprises =)
[13:09] <ogra_> i need to be out for the later afternoon, but i'll try to test before (or worst case directly if i return)
[13:11] <plars> gema: I'm not sure how having a bunch of devices connected to the same machine named 0123456789ABCDEF is going to help us
[13:11] <plars> but maybe I'm misunderstanding
[13:13] <plars> gema, jibel: using that script, this mako in the lab now shows up as 0123456789ABCDEF        Android
[13:13] <ogra_> plars, you ant to hand it the rigtht serial i guess
[13:13] <Fo2adZz> another question would i be able to use an vnc server to connect to ubuntu touch? Thanks in advance
[13:13] <plars> ogra_: I have multiple devices connected to the same machine doing this
[13:14] <popey> Fo2adZz: not currently, no
[13:14] <ogra_> yes, i understand
[13:14] <plars> ogra_: so having more than one showing up with that same improper ID is not going to help us, even if adb will allow us to use that bogus serial to connect
[13:14] <Fo2adZz> #popey thanks
[13:14] <plars> ogra_: handing it the correct/original serial # just simply fails to connect, until adb-server is restarted
[13:15] <ogra_> plars, you get such a fake serialfrom the actual usb port ?
[13:15] <plars> ogra_: seems so, yes
[13:15] <popey> how come they are coming up with 0123456789ABCDEF ?
[13:15]  * ogra_ can imagine that coming from adb , but surely not from USB itself
[13:16] <popey> adb shell
[13:16] <popey> oops
[13:16] <plars> ogra_: I tried upgrading to the quantal lts hwe kernel yesterday on this box, but still broken
[13:16] <plars> popey: are you on raring?
[13:16] <popey> raring laptop yes
[13:16] <popey> i have two devices attached
[13:16] <popey> 04c770facfe7991f	device
[13:16] <popey> 015d2d4268480e12	device
[13:17] <ogra_> yeah, same here, i getr proper USB serials from sysfs if i look
[13:18] <plars> popey: ok, my raring laptop works fine, but for some reason precise/quantal in the lab does not
[13:18] <plars> popey: is this on nexus4?
[13:18] <popey> i have a nexus 4 and a nexus 7 attached
[13:19] <plars> popey: something else odd I'm noticing is that it only seems to happen in the lab on manta and mako, grouper and maguro both seem unaffected
[13:19] <plars> popey: and the nexus7 does it also?
[13:19] <popey> look up ☻
[13:19] <popey> one is nexus 4, one is nexus 7
[13:19] <ogra_> my nexus 7 here works fine too
[13:19] <popey> both flashed with 20130703 image
[13:19] <ogra_> 015d2109ce281010
[13:19] <popey> both flipped
[13:20] <ogra_> you should even be able to only gerp for the first half of teh serial to find which device it is
[13:20] <ogra_> 015d2 is grouper iirc
[13:21] <ogra_> (though idProduct might indeed be better for that)
[13:26] <plars> ok, this is neat
[13:26] <plars> after restarting adb server on my host, I get it back, but it still shows up wrong in sysfs
[13:26] <plars> that is, adb returns the correct id, sysfs still does not
[13:27] <ogra_> sounds like a usb bug
[13:28] <plars> ogra_: odd that it only started impacting us after the flipped images though?
[13:28] <ogra_> plars, adb changed a lot to be able to run under ubuntu
[13:28] <ogra_> and it might change again
[13:28] <ogra_> it is simply not a reliable source for that info
[13:29]  * ogra_ was preching the same before to the sdk guys
[13:29] <ogra_> *preaching
[13:29] <xnox> ogra_: yeah, test as you can. I'm packaging it for the ppa at the moment.
[13:30] <plars> ogra_: so you think it's a bug in the adb running under ubuntu on the device then?
[13:31] <zett> Merhaba
[13:31] <zett> türk var mı?
[13:31] <ogra_> plars, well, it is by design
[13:31] <zett> Peki türkçe bilen var mı?
[13:32]  * zett türkçe bilen var mı?
[13:32] <ogra_> plars, adbd uses a hook in androids init to get the data from the properties system ... we dotn run the android init anymore
[13:33] <ogra_> plars, adb is not a reliable source for this info ... really, use the USB bus ... (though well, might need to fix the kernel)
[13:33] <plars> ogra_: but the usb bus is not giving us correct info now either!
[13:33] <plars> ogra_: how did the kernel suddenly break though? we didn't see this problem before
[13:33] <rigved> !tr | zett
[13:33] <ubot5`> zett: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[13:34] <ogra_> plars, you mean it worked before on flipped ? i doubt that
[13:34] <zett> thanks
[13:34] <rigved> zett: if it is related to ubuntu touch, then please ask in english
[13:34] <rigved> here
[13:34] <plars> ogra_: no, it worked before on non-flipped
[13:34] <plars> ogra_: which was still using adb
[13:34] <ogra_> plars, right, as i explained above ... adbd uses androoids init to get that data
[13:35] <ogra_> in flipped we can not run adbd under android (you would just end up inside the container)
[13:35] <plars> ogasawara: do you have someone who can reproduce this and confirm it is a kernel bug?
[13:36] <Venemo_> hi
[13:36] <Venemo_> in this table, why is the column for the nexus 7 totally empty? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/Nexus
[13:38] <ogra_> plars, how are the devices connected exactly ... could indeed also be an issue with a hub that mangles that data or some such
[13:39] <plars> ogra_: I'm pretty sure there is a hub, since we have multiple devices, but that hasn't changed either
[13:39] <ogra_> plars, well, you never used the usb data before :)
[13:40] <lgp171188_> Hi, I am trying to run sudoku app using qmlscene and .qml file.  There was no way to close the app so when I did a ctrl+c in the terminal window to close the app, it dumps core with segmentation fault. Is this a known issue or expected behaviour?
[13:42] <ogra_> plars, my point is, even if adb gets changed to show the right data again, this is the wrong lace to get that info, it should come directly from HW (i,e, the USB bus)
[13:42] <ogra_> which *should* be 100% reliable :P
[13:42] <ogra_> ... should ...
[13:42] <ogra_> FSVO should ...
[13:42] <ogra_> :)
[13:43] <plars> ogra_: so how is adb getting the "right" data after killing the server, and regaining the ability to attach to the correct adbid, even though the data in sysfs is still wrong?
[13:43] <Fo2adZz> is it necessary to use a 64-bit OS to compile and do the porting? or can I use 32-bit Ubuntu OS?
[13:44] <ogra_> plars, that sounds more like a client side bug with the adb server
[13:47] <esigolo> Fo2adZz: i took this info on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[13:47] <esigolo> Fo2adZz: "For development you can run any 64-bit Desktop version of Ubuntu between 12.04 LTS and 13.04."
[13:47] <Fo2adZz> :D thanks a lot
[13:48] <rigved> Venemo_: i guess things have not been tested for the nexus 7 yet.
[13:49] <ogra_> well, all full time devs do work like 16h/day on code so wiki updates often get forgotten
[13:51] <rigved> oh ok. that's where others can help!
[13:51] <Venemo_> rigved: videos of the stuff are all over youtube... seems that neither of those guys bothered to fill out the table?
[13:52] <Venemo_> 16h/day? isn't that a bit too much? :P
[13:53] <ogra_> rigved, yeah, and you already did a tremendous job helping :) thanks so much
[13:53] <ogra_> Venemo_, well, i'm probably exaggerating but its definitely more than the usual 8h for most
[13:54] <Venemo_> ogra_: well, it could be okay if you enjoy doing it :)
[13:54]  * ogra_ loves his job 
[13:54] <ogra_> with passion :)
[13:55] <ogra_> i actually think ubuntu touch is the most exciting thing since warty warthog :)
[13:55] <Venemo_> nice :)
[13:55] <rigved> ogra_: :)
[13:55] <Venemo_> which part of it are you working on ogra_?
[13:56] <ogra_> plumbing ... i worked on flipping the container model that landed yesterday
[13:56] <esigolo> ogra_: boot time is alot faster now
[13:56] <ogra_> esigolo, oh ? thats surprising ...
[13:57] <ogra_> we didnt do anything for that yet
[13:57] <rigved> ogra_: congrats on the flip!
[13:57] <plars> ogra_: so I booted back into legacy and the adb id is correct both from adb devices, as well as from sysfs
[13:57] <esigolo> ogra_: fitst boot took just a few seconds
[13:57] <ogra_> there are some pending changes that will change the whole boot process, so nobody bothered much to optimize it yet
[13:57] <plars> ogra_: so it doesn't seem that we were getting the wrong usb info before the flip
[13:58] <ogra_> plars, again ... unflipped uses androids init and thus adbd gets the data from the android properties system
[13:58] <ogra_> flipped doesnt get that data at all and falls back to some hardcoded values in the adbd daemon
[13:59] <ogra_> nontheless using adb at all to get that data is not as reliable as getting it from the HW directly
[13:59] <plars> ogra_: ok, perhaps I was confused. I thought you were saying this was a kernel bug on the host side, but you mean that it would be on the kernel running on the device?
[13:59] <ogra_> (unless you hit a weird kernel bug ... which you do apparenly)
[14:00] <plars> ogra_: I'm not clear on where that id is coming from when it can't, as you say, get it from the android properties
[14:00] <ogra_>  /sys/bus/usb/devices/* should have the HW serial number ... no matter if there is adbd on the device or not
[14:01] <ogra_> (/sys/bus/usb/devices/* on the host that is)
[14:01] <plars> ogra_: and it does, it's just wrong. But *only* with the flipped image. With the unflipped one, it's correct
[14:01] <ogra_> since that info comes out of the USB chip on the device
[14:01] <plars> on the same device
[14:02] <ogra_> well, i dont have that issue here ... nor does popey
[14:02] <ogra_> so i wonder how your setup differs
[14:05] <Venemo_> ogra_: sounds nice
[14:15] <rigved> how do i close a tab in the browser?
[14:15] <popey> you can't, yet.
[14:15] <rigved> popey: ok. thanks
[14:15] <popey> no bug filed, but I know we know about it.
[14:16] <rigved> popey: ok
[14:18] <rigved> sei
[14:18] <rigved> sorry
[14:18] <rigved> ignore
[14:19] <AmEv> Hey
[14:19] <popey> rigved: bug 1197835  there you go
[14:19] <ubot5`> bug 1197835 in webbrowser-app "No way to close tabs in the browser" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1197835
[14:20] <rigved> popey: awesome! you are quick.
[14:20] <esigolo> rigved: portuguese?
[14:21] <rigved> esigolo: no, i do not know portuguese
[14:21] <AmEv> Not that this is a deal-breaker or anything, but is there any way to use a CM10 base instead of a CM10.1?
[14:21] <esigolo> rigved: rigved> sei looks like the work know in portuguese
[14:22] <esigolo> word*
[14:22] <AmEv> Only reason I ask is because CM10.1 is in a horrendously alpha stage right now on my tablet.
[14:23] <rigved> esigolo: i mis-typed. did not know that it was a portuguese word though!
[14:23] <rigved> :)
[14:23] <esigolo> AmEv: wich model ?
[14:23] <AmEv> Antares.
[14:23] <esigolo> rigved: :)
[14:23] <AmEv> Toshiba Thrive 10.1.
[14:24] <ogra_> AmEv, if you work around any build issues i dont wee why it wouldnt work
[14:24] <rigved> esigolo: google translate says it's german though: http://translate.google.com/#auto/en/sei
[14:24] <esigolo> AmEv: take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[14:25] <esigolo> AmEv: and ubuntu uses CM hardware drivers only
[14:25] <AmEv> OK.
[14:25] <esigolo> so i would no such worried about that
[14:25] <esigolo> not be *
[14:25] <AmEv> Good to know.
[14:25] <ogra_> we use some other parts beyond drivers, but there is nothing that is closely bound to CM10.1
[14:26] <esigolo> rigved: LOL :)
[14:26] <ogra_> (surfaceflinger, servicemanager  etc)
[14:26] <AmEv> We do have an excellent CM10, though. Once I reinstall my Kubuntu install, I'll take a look. (managed to break graphics somehow....
[14:26] <AmEv> Thanks, though.
[14:27]  * ogra_ thinks theoretically evertyhing thats android 4.x compatible should work ... 
[14:29] <AmEv> Yeah, my programming skills right now are "know just enough to royally break everything"... haha
[14:32] <dpm> Mirv, are you around to join us in #ubuntu-touch-meeting for a question on qt packaging?
[14:33] <ogra_> AmEv, so a good opportunity to go the next step then ... fix it after you broke it :)
[14:34] <AmEv> ogra_: Of course! *thumbup*
[14:34] <ogra_> :)
[14:34] <AmEv> Still, I know that the Transformer is a Tegra 2 chip, whereas mine also is.
[14:35] <AmEv> Should help a ton...
[14:35] <AmEv> Still, if I figure out how to use a CM10 base instead of CM10.1...
[14:36] <AmEv> Can you say "dramatically increase device list"? haha
[14:36] <ogra_> just pointing to the right branches in default.xml should be a good start .... and then fix all the fallout you get when trying to build
[14:37] <AmEv> Once I can get all sources downloaded... haha....
[14:39] <esigolo> ogra_: do you now how to exchange London to Brazil on Date and Time?
[14:39] <sergiusens> the London thing is just an image...
[14:39] <ogra_> it is written in the release notes page iirc
[14:40] <esigolo> ogra_: o now ! the timezone is already changed
[14:40] <ogra_> oh, right you indeed cant change the static image
[14:40] <esigolo> i want to change the name
[14:40] <esigolo> ogra_: thanks
[14:40] <ogra_> wait for the real time-date indicator to land :)
[14:40] <sergiusens> well, you can draw your own :-P
[14:40] <ogra_> haha
[14:41] <ogra_> you could also just put a sticker on the screen
[14:41] <ogra_> to cover it
[14:41] <popey> esigolo: i change the date/time via a script after flashing the device
[14:42] <ogra_> popey, that doesnt make london vanish from the indicator though
[14:42] <popey> oh
[14:42] <popey> yeah, get some crayons
[14:42] <ogra_> :)
[14:43] <lgp171188_> Hi, I am trying to write an autopilot testcase for the sudoku app about page. Apart from clicking the about tab, there seems to be no action to test. There are a couple of rows with labels, but none of them have 'id' property defined so that I can reference them and access them. How to proceed?
[14:44] <esigolo> :)
[14:51] <dimitern> hey guys, i noticed an issue with the latest saucy daily build on nexus 4
[14:52] <dimitern> sometimes (quite often actually) after a reboot the home screen does not show, although I can ssh into the phone ok
[14:52] <dimitern> is there a way to restart the session without restarting the phone?
[14:53] <sergiusens> lgp171188_: write some objectNames into the qml itself
[14:53] <sergiusens> lgp171188_: also, you may get better assistance on #ubuntu-autopilot
[14:55] <lgp171188_> sergiusens: I could add the object name into the QML but since I am trying to write just the test cases, should I modify the app?
[14:55] <dimitern> sergiusens: can you help? ^^
[14:57] <sergiusens> dimitern: service ubuntu-touch-session restart
[14:57] <sergiusens> lgp171188_: well you can't do one without the other
[14:58] <dimitern> sergiusens: i'll try this ok
[14:59] <davmor2> hmmm did todays image not build?  ah hang on apt-get update gives me an indication removal of ubuntu-touch might not be such a good thing I guess :)
[14:59] <lgp171188_> sergiusens: Once I get the reference of the tab object, is it possible to iterate over its children and the children of the children and check their values?
[15:01] <sergiusens> lgp171188_: I haven't used ap in a while, hence my ref for you to ask in #ubuntu-autopilot
[15:09] <esigolo> i'm getting black screen after reboot
[15:11] <esigolo> ogra_: can you give me a hand to troubleshoot?
[15:15] <rigved> sergiusens: i was reading the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes and it seems that a lot of the stuff related to sample content has changed. could you let me know what needs to be added / removed / modified?
[15:30] <popey> I flashed 20130704 to mako and get a black screen on boot
[15:31]  * popey updates
[15:33] <xnox> popey: i find that sometimes i need to lock & unlock screen to get the screen instead of black screen
[15:33]  * xnox is on grouper though
[15:33] <popey> updated and rebooted, better now
[15:37] <jodh> my nexus7 appears to have "lost" its recovery partition: even a successful full android reflash fails to give me the recovery menu back (just get the lloyd+red triangle icon). Anyone have ideas?
[15:44] <leader> hi, i'm flushing my new nexus 4 into ubuntu
[15:50] <[mbm]> jodh: normal recovery doesn't go directly to the recovery menu, you get the triangle icon and then you press power + volume up
[15:51] <leader> http://imgup.com/data/images/1234.png
[15:58] <jodh> [mbm]: thanks!
[16:01] <leader> i got error while installing ubuntu on nexus 4, how can I re-try to install it, do I have to return android first?
[16:04] <leader> how to restore android?
[16:05] <plars> leader: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Restoring_Android
[16:07] <plars> popey: seeing the black screen on nexus4 here too
[16:07] <plars> popey: but unity8 seems to be running
[16:07] <plars> according to ps at least
[16:17] <popey> plars: i updated and rebooted and its working now
[16:17] <popey> dist-upgrade pulled in fixed unity8
[16:26] <leader> plars: i couldn't i'm getting error http://imgup.com/data/images/1235.png
[16:27] <[mbm]> you downloaded the wrong android image
[16:31] <leader> mbm: how do I know to correct version require?
[16:31] <leader> mbm: i only knows this code JDQ39
[16:33] <leader> mbm: i'm downloading  occam
[16:33] <[mbm]> https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images .. pay close attition to the 'wifi only' vs the 'mobile' version which has the cellular modem
[16:36] <[mbm]> looks like you mistakenly downloaded a galaxy nexus image, which is a completely different device
[16:39] <davmor2> ogra_: is there anything I can do about my n7 just having a black screen after a flashing it today?
[16:41] <t1mp> davmor2: I had the same on my galaxy nexus. there is a bug that should be fixed in the next image release. I don't have a link to the bug but I was told it will be fixed
[16:42] <davmor2> t1mp: cheers
[16:50] <rvr> davmor2: I had the same on Nexus 4
[16:51] <rvr> davmor2: System is running, though
[16:51] <rvr> adb shell is able to log in
[16:51] <Kaleo_> Saviq: back
[16:52] <Saviq> Kaleo_, had a VM issue, the branch is not yet clean enough
[16:56] <davmor2> rvr: indeed the backlight is on too signifying that it is up and running.
[16:57] <Kaleo_> Saviq: I have sortof good news; I think I can reproduce the issue with the Ubuntu UI Toolkit galleryt
[16:57] <Kaleo_> -t
[16:58] <Saviq> Kaleo_, right
[16:58] <Saviq> Kaleo_, should've tried that before...
[16:58] <Kaleo_> Saviq: it's not so clear though
[16:59] <Kaleo_> Saviq: I get no events from the QML profiled
[16:59] <Kaleo_> Saviq: profiler
[16:59] <Saviq> Kaleo_, I don't either
[16:59] <Kaleo_> Saviq: but 15% CPU constant
[16:59] <Saviq> Kaleo_, yeah exactly
[16:59] <Kaleo_> Saviq: but perf does not have QSGNodeUpdater::isNodeBlocked increasing
[16:59] <Kaleo_> Saviq: it's always around 1%
[16:59] <Saviq> hm
[16:59] <Saviq> Kaleo_, the symptoms sound exactly the same
[16:59] <Kaleo_> Saviq: the top calls are rendering calls
[16:59] <Kaleo_> Saviq: yes
[16:59] <Kaleo_> Saviq: I'm going to chop the app down
[16:59] <Kaleo_> Saviq: see what the cause is
[17:00] <Saviq> Kaleo_, good, so I'm stopping the unity8 chopping down for now
[17:01] <Saviq> Kaleo_, will get back to it if/when needed
[17:01] <Kaleo_> Saviq: I also suspect that the issue is the lack of image: shape.image && (shape.image.status == Image.Ready) ? shape.image : null
[17:01] <Saviq> Kaleo_, could be
[17:02] <Kaleo_> Saviq: a return; at the beginning of ShapeItem::setImage fixes it
[17:03] <Saviq> Kaleo_, "fixes"? ;)
[17:04] <esigolo> ogra_: When you get some time ! Ping me please ! i need some help hehe
[17:04] <Kaleo_> Saviq: ..
[17:04] <Saviq> Kaleo_, you should try with Qt 5.1
[17:05] <Saviq> Kaleo_, it fixed a lot of stuff for us
[17:05] <Kaleo_> Saviq: hmmm, yes
[17:05] <Kaleo_> Saviq: however I'd like to get to the bottom of it first
[17:05] <Saviq> s/fixed/fixes/
[17:05] <Kaleo_> Saviq: at least have a sample program
[17:05] <Saviq> Kaleo_, yeah, got it
[17:08] <seb128> hum
[17:08] <seb128> is today's daily supposed to work on grouper?
[17:08] <seb128> I don't get anything displayed on screen...
[17:09] <davmor2> seb128: broken image should be fixed in the next one I get the same on n7 there are other people affected in n4 and galaxy nexus too
[17:10] <seb128> ok
[17:10] <seb128> next one is like tomorrow?
[17:10] <seb128> or is there going to be a respin today?
[17:10] <Kaleo_> Saviq: executing ListItems.qml triggers it I think
[17:11] <Kaleo_> Saviq: and Popover.qml too
[17:11] <Kaleo_> ah ah
[17:15] <popey> seb128: i flashed 20130704 then dist-upgraded which pulled in a fixed unity8..
[17:17] <Saviq> seb128, add ppa:ubuntu-daily/next and upgrade unity8
[17:17] <Saviq> davmor2, ↑
[17:18] <seb128> Saviq, popey: thanks
[17:18] <Saviq> davmor2, sorry, mis-synced releases
[17:18] <popey> once I apt-get dist-upgraded on both n4 and n7, all was okay..
[17:18] <popey> well, for some value of "all" :D
[17:21] <esigolo> popey: i did an apt-get upgrade here and got black screen
[17:21] <esigolo> had to flash again
[17:21] <popey> dist-upgrade
[17:21] <esigolo> oO
[17:22] <esigolo> popey: let me try
[17:22] <popey> i.e. "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:22] <popey> then reboot
[17:23] <esigolo> okay
[17:23] <Kaleo_> Saviq: victory
[17:23] <Kaleo_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5844227/
[17:23] <sergiusens> seb128: there's going to be a respin today
[17:23] <Kaleo_> to reproduce
[17:23] <Saviq> Kaleo_, fillMode?
[17:23] <Saviq> Kaleo_, is fillMode the culprit?
[17:24] <esigolo> popey: is that normal ? wlan keep scanning when I'm already connected?
[17:24] <Saviq> Kaleo_, and Image with no source?
[17:24] <seb128> sergiusens, popey, davmor2: apt-get update; apt-get install unity8; restart ubuntu-touch-session ... that worked for me, thanks!
[17:25] <mhall119> do we not get a changelog for the flipped images?
[17:25] <Saviq> Kaleo_, nope, fillMode unrelated
[17:25] <Saviq> Kaleo_, so empty source
[17:25] <Kaleo_> Saviq: reminds me https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1189884
[17:25] <Saviq> Kaleo_, yeah, we have some of that in the shell (like failed icons)
[17:25] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1189884 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "[UbuntuShape] Images assigned by a variable don't get handled properly" [High,Confirmed]
[17:25] <Kaleo_> Saviq: and any ListItem.Standard without an icon
[17:25] <Kaleo_> Saviq: will trigger it
[17:26] <Saviq> Kaleo_, right
[17:26] <Saviq> Kaleo_, unrelated to the bug, though (i.e. both by variable and directly behaves the same)
[17:26] <Kaleo_> Saviq: shit.
[17:26] <Kaleo_> Saviq: oh you tried?
[17:28] <Kaleo_> Saviq: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5844240/
[17:28] <Kaleo_> Saviq: indeed
[17:29] <Kaleo_> Saviq: so really         image: shape.image && (shape.image.status == Image.Ready) ? shape.image : null
[17:29] <Kaleo_> Saviq: was saving us
[17:30] <Saviq> Kaleo_, right
[17:30] <Saviq> Kaleo_, so UbuntuShape == Shape now?
[17:31] <Saviq> Kaleo_, and so removing the wrapper around Shape surfaced the issue?
[17:32] <Kaleo_> Saviq: I found the culprit
[17:32] <Kaleo_> Saviq: exactly
[17:33] <Kaleo_> Saviq: yaya
[17:33] <Saviq> Kaleo_, gimme
[17:33] <Kaleo_> Saviq: remove line 425 of shapeitem.cpp
[17:33] <Kaleo_> Saviq: the update()
[17:34] <Kaleo_> Saviq: should fix it
[17:35] <Saviq> Kaleo_, +1
[17:36] <Saviq> Kaleo_, no adverse effects?
[17:36] <nik90> hello everyone :)
[17:36] <Kaleo_> Saviq: yes there is
[17:36] <Kaleo_> Saviq: it was there for a reason
[17:36] <Kaleo_> Saviq: so we need to think of a better fix
[17:36] <Saviq> Kaleo_, mhm
[17:37] <Kaleo_> Saviq: revision 446 introduced that code to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1171437
[17:37] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1171437 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu Raring) "[UbuntuShape] Image's fillMode works only first time" [Undecided,New]
[17:38] <Saviq> Kaleo_, right
[17:42] <Kaleo_> Saviq: now that's funny, the bug reported does not happen anymore
[17:42] <Kaleo_> Saviq: without the patch from rev 446
[17:42] <davmor2> seb128: Confirmed, popey I'm trying dist-upgrade on my galaxy nexus so I'll confirm that in a minute too
[17:42] <Kaleo_> mzanetti: you around?
[17:43] <mzanetti> Kaleo_: yeah
[17:43] <Saviq> Kaleo_, not sure that's "funny" :)
[17:43] <Kaleo_> mzanetti: remember https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1171437 ?
[17:43] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1171437 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu Raring) "[UbuntuShape] Image's fillMode works only first time" [Undecided,New]
[17:43] <mzanetti> Kaleo_: yes
[17:44] <Kaleo_> mzanetti: could you confirm for me that the bug is still gone with lp:~fboucault/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/fix_1197801
[17:44] <Kaleo_> ?
[17:44] <Saviq> Kaleo_, I'm definitely seeing different results with & without
[17:45] <Saviq> not entirely sure what should be the right one
[17:45] <esigolo> popey: weldone  ! :)
[17:45] <davmor2> popey: dist-upgrade confirmed too :)
[17:46] <Saviq> or do I
[17:46] <Saviq> Kaleo_, ok, ignore me
[17:46] <Kaleo_> Saviq: you're right, I'm wrong
[17:46] <Saviq> Kaleo_, lol
[17:46] <Kaleo_> Saviq: the bug is still there
[17:46] <Saviq> I'm not seeing right
[17:46]  * mzanetti is building
[17:46] <Kaleo_>             fillMode: Image.PreserveAspectCrop
[17:47] <Saviq> Kaleo_, yeah, so removing or not, I see the same thing
[17:47] <Saviq> Kaleo_, different when I only remove the update(), but that's probably expected?
[17:48] <Saviq> Kaleo_, yeah, it's preserve aspect all the time, AFAICS
[17:48] <Kaleo_> Saviq: ok
[17:48] <leader> I just finish installing ubuntu on nexus 4
[17:49] <Saviq> Kaleo_, yeah, no, now I saw the issue again
[17:49] <leader> but when I go to settings most of the settings is not working, is that for everyone?
[17:49] <Saviq> Kaleo_, so yeah, fix is valid
[17:49] <leader> can't even download apps
[17:49] <leader> like youtube
[17:49] <Saviq> leader, the settings app is work in progress (as everything...)
[17:50] <Saviq> leader, installation is only available via usual apt-get
[17:50] <cyphermox> renato_: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/indicator-server/active-conn-dev/+merge/173070
[17:51] <Kaleo_> Saviq: you mean not valid
[17:51] <Saviq> Kaleo_, mzanetti, yeah, fix valid
[17:51] <Kaleo_> Saviq: you mean the old fix
[17:51] <cyphermox> more small changes to make the device switch more stable ^
[17:51] <Kaleo_> Saviq: well, ok
[17:51] <Kaleo_> Saviq: it's all good
[17:51] <Saviq> Kaleo_, valid, bug appears if I remove that code
[17:51] <Kaleo_> Saviq: I have an idea for a better fix
[17:51]  * mzanetti is confused
[17:51] <mzanetti> and still building :D
[17:51] <Saviq> mzanetti, don't worry, me too
[17:51] <Saviq> mzanetti, but yeah, bug/fix still valid
[17:52] <Saviq> mzanetti, just needs to be better for bug 1197801
[17:52] <ubot5`> bug 1197801 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Unity8 is hogging the CPU when idle" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1197801
[17:52] <leader> saviq: I didn't get the settings working  page working, but it just open, when I click something like bluetooth or update it just give white page
[17:52] <Saviq> leader, yes, that's because the pages are not implemented yet
[17:52] <renato_> cyphermox, approved
[17:52] <Saviq> leader, swipe from the bottom to reveal the toolbar
[17:52] <Saviq> leader, and go back
[17:53] <leader> saviq: ah, ok, got the back button
[17:53] <Saviq> mzanetti, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5844240/ is enough to trigger the CPU hogging
[17:53] <leader> saviq: music even not working?
[17:53] <mzanetti> Kaleo_: FYI: your branch fails tests
[17:53] <Saviq> leader, the current music app is just a placeholder
[17:53] <Saviq> leader, it's being worked on
[17:54] <Saviq> leader, by community contributors
[17:54] <Kaleo_> mzanetti: great ;)
[17:54] <Saviq> leader, you can find the progress here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Music
[17:54] <Saviq> or, some details at least
[17:55] <leader> ok, thank you
[17:55] <leader> and where can I find what apps can be installed and how to install it
[17:56] <Saviq> leader, are you used to Ubuntu at all? most of that can only happen via console commands right now
[17:56] <Saviq> leader, as in apt-get / apt-cache
[17:56] <esigolo> leader: for now you got to install as you do on a ubuntu desktop (apt-get install)
[17:56] <leader> saviq: yes, apt-get of course but I thought ubuntu touch might be differant
[17:57] <Saviq> leader, it's all Ubuntu :)
[17:57] <leader> everything can be install?
[17:57] <leader> can be done from ssh too?
[17:57] <Saviq> leader, yes, but only Qt5 apps will run at the moment
[17:57] <Saviq> leader, sure
[17:57] <cyphermox> renato_: thanks. there's probably more little details to fix
[17:57] <t1mp> leader: it is awesome :)
[17:58] <leader> tlmp: yes, very
[17:58] <leader> Saviq: what is the Qt5 apps? how can I learn about it
[17:59] <Saviq> leader, Qt is http://qt-project.org/
[17:59] <leader> Saviq, thank you
[17:59] <esigolo> i got a problem to activate 3G connection
[17:59] <esigolo> nmcli con up id Vivo
[17:59] <esigolo> n up id Vivo
[17:59] <esigolo> Error: Connection activation failed: The connection was not supported by oFono.
[17:59] <Saviq> leader, http://developer.ubuntu.com/ should be a good start
[18:02] <esigolo> popey: should I report a bug?
[18:02] <popey> esigolo: i think we know about the ofono issue, right rsalveti ?
[18:03] <elopio> Kaleo_, seb128: the autopilot tests started failing because of bug #1197911
[18:03] <ubot5`> bug 1197911 in Autopilot "With a CustomEmulator and qmlscene, the dbus service is not found the second time" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1197911
[18:04] <elopio> I don't know how to fix it, though. So we'll have to wait for the autopilot guys before using the fancy new tests helpers :(
[18:04] <leader> when I ssh it say  connection refuse
[18:05] <Kaleo_> elopio: I reverted the commit that broke the tests
[18:05] <Kaleo_> elopio: see revision 580 in lp:ubuntu-ui-toolkit
[18:05] <elopio> Kaleo_: yes, I saw that. Sorry for the failures.
[18:06] <Kaleo_> elopio: no worries
[18:06] <Kaleo_> elopio: the project was not setup to let us know before merging
[18:06] <Kaleo_> elopio: now it is
[18:06] <elopio> Kaleo_: these autopilot tests don't take a lot of time. Why don't you run them on the pre-merge?
[18:06] <Kaleo_> elopio: so it won't happen again
[18:06] <elopio> oh, awesome :D
[18:07] <elopio> Kaleo_: I'll ping back when the autopilot problem is fixed to give it another try.
[18:07] <Kaleo_> elopio: thank you
[18:10] <leader> how can I know the ssh port on ubuntu phone
[18:12] <t1mp> leader: for me port 22 works, but you need to install sshd first
[18:13] <leader> password for phablet?
[18:13] <t1mp> leader: like you installed the image with phablet-flash, there is phablet-network-setup script to set-up the networking on the device. Passing the -i option to that script will install sshd
[18:13] <t1mp> leader: password is also 'phablet'
[18:14] <t1mp> leader: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5844380/ :)
[18:16] <leader> unable to locate, need to add repository?
[18:16] <esigolo> is possible to take schreenshots already ?
[18:16] <sergiusens> esigolo: it always was
[18:16] <sergiusens> esigolo: /system/bin/screencap something.png
[18:17] <esigolo> sergiusens: can you teach me?
[18:17] <esigolo> thanks
[18:17] <t1mp> leader: how did you install ubuntu on the device? using phablet-flash?
[18:18] <Kaleo_> Saviq: ok I'm 90% sure I identified the bug in Qt
[18:18] <popey> esigolo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5844398/  is a very simple script that will take a screenshot and put it in ~/Pictures, name it nicely and open it in an appropriate image viewer
[18:19] <t1mp> leader: if you have phablet-tools installed, as explained on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install you should have phablet-network-setup
[18:21] <esigolo> popey: thanks
[18:23] <ppsl> ubuntu phone os will work on mtk6577 devices?
[18:23] <esigolo> ppsl: here is a list of compatible devices https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices any other device depends on future plans
[18:24] <ppsl> ok, thanks
[18:25] <esigolo> ppsl: welcome
[18:28] <Saviq> Kaleo_, cool
[18:28] <Kaleo_> Saviq: I'm on mumble
[18:28] <Kaleo_> Saviq: confirming my thinking with loic
[18:28] <Saviq> Kaleo_, k
[18:29] <Kaleo_> Saviq: I might advise to revive bug 1171437
[18:29] <ubot5`> bug 1171437 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu Raring) "[UbuntuShape] Image's fillMode works only first time" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1171437
[18:29] <Kaleo_> Saviq: while we patch Qt
[18:29] <leader> i cannot connect to wireless anymore
[18:29] <Kaleo_> Saviq: and loicm has a patch for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1171437
[18:30] <Kaleo_> wrong link
[18:30] <Kaleo_> for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1197802
[18:30] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1197802 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "transparent Button is black with the new toolkit" [High,In progress]
[18:31] <Saviq> Kaleo_, yeah, saw that
[18:31] <Saviq> Kaleo_, I converted to AbstractButton already, as that's what we needed
[18:31] <Saviq> Kaleo_, should never have used Buttons there
[18:31] <Kaleo_> Saviq: ah you did not need the label nor icon?
[18:32] <Saviq> Kaleo_, well, we had an Image inside
[18:32] <Saviq> Kaleo_, no label
[18:32] <Kaleo_> Saviq: Button supports that
[18:32] <Kaleo_> Saviq: ie. ButtonForeground supports that
[18:32] <Saviq> Kaleo_, right, will have to convert to that, probably
[18:34] <leader> how to scroll the terminal up in ubuntu phone
[18:34] <Kaleo_> leader: try long pressing the terminal
[18:34] <Kaleo_> leader: I think a menu appears
[18:35] <leader> there is menu but cannot scroll
[18:36] <leader> i need to connect to wifi
[18:36] <popey> Hmm, my Nexus 4 just spontaneously rebooted
[18:36] <Saviq> leader, drag down over the wifi icon from the top
[18:37] <Saviq> leader, you'll be able to choose a network and connect
[18:37] <esigolo> popey: rinning android or Ubuntu?
[18:38] <esigolo> running*
[18:38] <popey> Ubuntu of course ☻
[18:39] <esigolo> popey: oO
[18:39] <leader> Saviq: first network in connect to , when I slide down it shows networks, but now I'm on different network range I cannot see any network it just show "no network"
[18:39] <leader> Saviq: sorry it show Empty!
[18:39] <leader> Saviq: but the network sign on to bar still there
[18:39] <Saviq> leader, right, that's a bug (already fixed in a branch)
[18:40] <Saviq> leader, `restart ubuntu-touch-session` on the console will help
[18:40] <Saviq> leader, but also kill your apps
[18:40] <Saviq> leader, it will reconnect to known networks automatically
[18:41] <Saviq> leader, just the first connection to a second network is broken
[18:41] <Saviq> leader, bug 1191132
[18:41] <ubot5`> bug 1191822 in touch-preview-images "duplicate for #1191132 After a wireless network is selected the list of networks says "Empty!"" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1191822
[18:43] <leader> Saviq: thank you, restarted the phone and got networks
[18:44] <esigolo> leader: it shows empty but is already connected here
[18:44] <t1mp> Wellark: do you think we can support iconSource eventually in the unity actions that are passed over dbus?
[18:44] <esigolo> i ran nlcli dev on shell
[18:44] <esigolo> wlan0      802-11-wireless   connected
[18:44] <t1mp> Wellark: Qt.resolvedUrl() would give the full path right?
[18:45] <leader> esigolo: here is laptop but holding the phone
[18:48] <Kaleo_> Saviq: loicm: that's the color bug in a nutshell
[18:48] <Kaleo_> Saviq: loicm: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5844478/
[18:50] <Saviq> Kaleo_, yup
[18:50] <Saviq> Changed, destColor.a = 1
[18:50] <Saviq> Completed, destColor.a = 1
[18:51] <Kaleo_> Saviq: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-6919
[18:52] <Saviq> Kaleo_,
[18:52] <Saviq> Affects Version/s: 3.x
[18:52] <Saviq> Kaleo_, different bug, really
[18:52] <Saviq> Kaleo_, it errors out
[18:52] <Saviq> Kaleo_, doesn't, for us
[18:52] <Saviq> Kaleo_, but yeah, looks related
[18:53] <Saviq> Kaleo_, http://qt.gitorious.org/qt/kinetic/commit/cfc536842a205a951457e2630b04de2262ffaa46/diffs
[18:54] <leader> tlmp: how will I install sshd, what repository to add?
[18:54] <stgraber> ogra_, rsalveti: hey, so what's the difference between the boot-armel and boot-armhf files on cdimage, I'm confused...
[18:54] <rsalveti> stgraber: I believe they should be the same, as we just renamed armel to armhf afaik
[18:55] <stgraber> stgraber@castiana:~/Desktop/phablet/server$ cat ../cdimage/daily-preinstalled/20130703/SHA256SUMS | grep boot | grep grouper
[18:55] <stgraber> 5164fbc8210fc03c9a48cf0aef8ecc50f8ddeef3a0d971e1181b231f9ca1b351 *saucy-preinstalled-boot-armel+grouper.img
[18:55] <stgraber> ba01f07eeb4db68e57d8f5321061771c1ac91cee4d845d8646aeaa9e1ae10a56 *saucy-preinstalled-boot-armhf+grouper.img
[18:55] <rsalveti> hm, I only get armel with latest
[18:55] <rsalveti> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/
[18:56]  * rsalveti confused 
[18:56] <leader> how to install sshd on ubuntu phone
[18:56] <stgraber> rsalveti: /current is a directory containing symlinks to validated images, so I guess we just don't symlink to the armhf ones
[18:57] <t1mp> leader: phablet-network-setup -i
[18:57] <stgraber> rsalveti: but if you look at /20130704 for example, you'll see both armel and armhf for the boot image (and the boot images only...)
[18:57] <rsalveti> stgraber: right, and armhf is what we're using with phablet-flash
[18:57] <Kaleo_> Saviq: okkkkkkkk
[18:57] <rsalveti> so we might have 2 issues
[18:57] <sergiusens> well the boot image is armhf in cdimage
[18:57] <Kaleo_> Saviq: so we reached the bottom of both issues
[18:57] <rsalveti> missing link and extra armel, which in theory is not needed anymore
[18:57] <sergiusens> but it might be that the boot armel from unflipped is still being pulled in and not deleted
[18:58] <rsalveti> might be
[18:58] <rsalveti> that would make more sense
[18:58] <esigolo> rsalveti: do you already know about the ofono issue on nexus 4?
[18:58] <Saviq> Kaleo_, yeah, question is can we rebound ;)
[18:58] <t1mp> leader: you run that on the computer that you connected the device to via usb
[18:58] <rsalveti> esigolo: will debug it more in a few
[18:58] <rsalveti> just got a sim card with enough credits to test that
[18:59] <esigolo> rsalveti: want to test it here?
[18:59] <rsalveti> stgraber: sergiusens: so yeah, I believe the armel ones are from the unflipped images
[18:59] <stgraber> rsalveti: ok, so for my images I should be pulling the armel recovery, armhf boot, armel system and armhf rootfs then?
[18:59] <rsalveti> stgraber: yes
[18:59] <stgraber> not confusing at all ;)
[18:59] <rsalveti> :-)
[18:59] <rsalveti> esigolo: not needed, should be able to reproduce locally
[18:59] <sergiusens> stgraber: just need to knwo what arch you want :-)
[19:00] <stgraber> alright, will do that then (writing the import tools to automatically convert our daily images to system-image.u.c entries)
[19:00] <esigolo> rsalveti:  okay
[19:00] <rsalveti> but thanks
[19:00] <esigolo> gallery is not working
[19:01] <Kaleo_> Saviq: Bug report in Qt just reported describing the issue: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-32238
[19:01] <esigolo> pushed some pictures (.jpg)
[19:02] <esigolo> open the gallery and it has nothing
[19:02] <Saviq> Kaleo_, we should check with 5.1
[19:02] <Saviq> Kaleo_, I'll try and get me a build
[19:03] <leader> tlmp: it say No active wifi network connection, exiting" cannot be read
[19:03] <Kaleo_> Saviq: there are packages in the PPA
[19:03] <Kaleo_> Saviq: no need to build :)
[19:04] <Saviq> Kaleo_, right ;)
[19:05] <t1mp> leader: it copies the network settings from your computer, so your computer must be connected to the same wifi network that you want to connect your device to
[19:06] <esigolo> rsalveti: why is two /home/? one on /home/phablet and one on /data/home/phablet?
[19:07] <leader> tlmp: i connected my phone to wifi but I need to install sshd on it
[19:07] <leader> tlmp: my pc connected to wifi but actually running ubuntu on vm
[19:07] <t1mp> leader: adb to the phone to get a shell and apt-get install openssh-server?
[19:09] <sergiusens> esigolo: /data/ubuntu/home/phablet?
[19:09] <esigolo> sergiusens:  yes
[19:10] <rsalveti> they are the same
[19:10] <rsalveti> just a bind mount
[19:11] <esigolo> so if a push to /home/phablet/Pictures/
[19:11] <esigolo> it will be also on the /data/home/phablet/Pictures/ right?
[19:12] <esigolo> ls -la
[19:12] <esigolo> drwxrwxr-x root     root              2013-07-04 19:06 Pictures
[19:12] <leader> tlmp; adb shall?
[19:14] <leader> tlmp: everything I type it show the help page
[19:15] <esigolo> sergiusens: please take a look http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5844562/
[19:15] <esigolo> sergiusens: is not the same content
[19:16] <sergiusens> esigolo: I asked about /data/ubuntu/home/phablet not /data/home/phablet
[19:16] <esigolo> sergiusens: my mistake sorry
[19:17] <t1mp> lenios: did you read it? ;)
[19:17] <t1mp> errr
[19:17] <sergiusens> esigolo: I don't recall /data/home/phablet, iirc the updater script backs up to a different location
[19:17] <t1mp> leader: did you read it? ;)
[19:18] <sergiusens> it wants to be read perhaps? :-)
[19:18] <t1mp> :)
[19:19] <esigolo> sergiusens: maybe was created when i pushed to te wrong place?
[19:20] <sergiusens> esigolo: likely, yes
[19:21] <esigolo> sergiusens: the galery app is amazing !
[19:23] <Oranger> popey: If we are really fast I can do a meeting ^^
[19:29] <Oranger> popey: Or not, sorry ^^
[19:30] <popey> sorry Oranger
[19:30] <esigolo> rsalveti: please let me know if you fix it ! i don't want to get back to android Anymore :)
[19:30] <rsalveti> esigolo: sure :-)
[19:32] <esigolo> tks
[19:47] <esigolo> rsalveti: from where i sould run this manage-address-books.py create ?
[19:48] <rsalveti> not sure, maybe boiko knows better
[19:49] <boiko> renato_: can you help esigolo?
[19:50] <renato_> esigolo, the current  manage-address-books.py is broken in saurcy,
[19:50] <leader> tlmp: got the shell but couldn't install the open ssh
[19:50] <renato_> esigolo, I have a MR for it but still waiting for reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/demo-assets/fix-manage-address-books/+merge/172434
[19:51] <esigolo> renato_: there is another way to import contacts?
[19:51] <renato_> sergiusens, ^^
[19:51] <rsalveti> sergiusens got a script for that in his blog
[19:51] <rsalveti> http://sergiusens.github.io/posts/google-contacts-on-ubuntu-touch.html
[19:52] <esigolo> thanks
[19:55] <leader> I think apt-get is not install on my phone
[19:55] <leader> how to install it
[20:00] <popey> leader: yeah, it is
[20:01] <leader> popey: I run adb shell , what to do next to install openssh-server
[20:01] <leader> and sshd
[20:01] <popey> what prompt do you see?
[20:02] <leader> adb shell from my pc : shell@android: $
[20:02] <mhall119> ah, unflipped image
[20:02] <mhall119> next run: ubuntu_chroot shell
[20:02] <leader> popey
[20:03] <mhall119> leader: ^^
[20:03] <popey> also need to set path once in the chroot
[20:04] <leader> popey: how?
[20:04] <mhall119> rsalveti: is there anywhere on the device that tells what build it is?
[20:05] <popey> mhall119: version or flip/non-flip?
[20:06] <leader> mhall119
[20:06] <popey> leader: export PATH="/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin"
[20:06] <mhall119> popey: version/build number
[20:06] <popey> than apt should work
[20:07] <popey> mhall119: there is, but I can't recall
[20:08] <leader> popey: command done but apt-get: not found
[20:08] <popey> leader: you've done the "ubuntu_chroot shell" that mhall119 suggested?
[20:11] <leader> popey: yes, i've done it. but before the android shell
[20:11] <popey> can you paste what you have in your terminal? from ubuntu_chroot shell on wards?
[20:12] <popey> to paste.ubuntu.com or pastebin or something
[20:12] <esigolo> how run syncevolution --sync refresh-from-server Google_Contacts addressbook without deleting the current contacts?
[20:12] <esigolo> it is only get 50 contacts
[20:13] <popey> esigolo: I think you have to re-reun it multiple times with sync-from-server.. mhall119 is that right?
[20:14] <esigolo> popey: when it ran again it delets the earlier contacts
[20:14] <esigolo>   Source | NEW | MOD | DEL | ERR | NEW | MOD | DEL | ERR | CTS |
[20:14] <esigolo> +---------------+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
[20:14] <esigolo> |   addressbook | 50  |  0  | 50  |  0  |  0  |  0  |  0  |  0  |  0  |
[20:15] <esigolo> so it adds 50 and delet the same 50
[20:15] <leader> popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5844734/
[20:15] <mhall119> esigolo: refresh-from-server will only sync the first 50 contacts, it'll do the same 50 each time
[20:15] <mhall119> there's another command to pull more
[20:16] <popey> "Run 'syncevolution --sync one-way-from-server Google_Contacts addressbook' a few times to download all your contacts in case you have more than 50.
[20:16] <popey> http://sergiusens.github.io/posts/google-contacts-on-ubuntu-touch.html#disqus_thread
[20:17] <popey> there you go
[20:17] <esigolo> popey: thanks ! i found it on the discussion
[20:19] <esigolo> thanks alot ! job done
[20:20] <popey> sweet!
[20:20] <esigolo> i'm taking note of those steps to help support new users like me
[20:21] <rsalveti> mhall119: not in a easy way
[20:21] <rsalveti> mhall119: we might set up a property for that
[20:30] <mhall119> rsalveti: it would be nice, that way it could be exposed in the system setting's "About this phone" too
[20:31] <Kaleo_> loicm: Saviq: https://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/reintroduce_shape_proxy/+merge/173097
[20:32] <rsalveti> mhall119: yup
[20:33] <esigolo> rsalveti: there is any workaround to ofono problem?
[20:34] <rsalveti> not sure yet, still debugging some other issue
[20:35] <zeokila> So guys, what are you all developing?
[20:35] <leader> popey: if I open the terminal on my phone how do I install ssh
[20:36] <popey> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[20:37] <Kaleo_> Saviq: around?
[20:37] <Saviq> Kaleo_, yeah, will test
[20:38] <Kaleo_> Saviq: thx
[20:40] <Saviq> Kaleo_, +1
[20:40] <Kaleo_> Saviq: kewl
[20:40] <Kaleo_> Saviq: that really sucks
[20:41] <Saviq> Kaleo_, "Two corner \l radius" → "Two corner \l radii"?
[20:41] <Kaleo_> Saviq: it's a copy paste
[20:41] <Saviq> Kaleo_, still ;)
[20:41] <Kaleo_> Saviq: no, not still
[20:41] <Kaleo_> Saviq: also, radius is the name of the property
[20:41] <Kaleo_> Saviq: not radii
[20:42] <Saviq> Kaleo_, should then be "Two values of the \l radius property"
[20:42] <Saviq> Kaleo_, "Two corner \l radius" is not English
[20:42] <Saviq> Kaleo_, ignore
[20:45] <Kaleo_> Saviq: I am ignoring
[20:52] <Saviq> Kaleo_, ooh, what is QuickUtils, is that something internal
[20:52] <Saviq> ?
[20:53] <Kaleo_> Saviq: yes
[20:53] <Kaleo_> Saviq: just a little helper
[20:53] <Kaleo_> Saviq: from us
[20:53] <Saviq> Kaleo_, we have something similar
[20:53] <Kaleo_> Saviq: don't even think of making it public :)
[20:55] <esigolo> renato_: the procedure to remove demo content on the wiki still working?
[20:55] <Saviq> Kaleo_, we have something like this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity-api/trunk/files/head:/test/qmltest/modules/TestUtil/
[20:55] <Saviq> Kaleo_, to verify the API, might want to have something of your API-stability solution, need to check it out
[20:56] <Saviq> Kaleo_, shall I top-happrove?
[20:56] <Saviq> Kaleo_, Jenkins agrees
[20:56] <renato_> esigolo, yes, but if you have problems you can ask sergiusens or ricmm
[20:56] <esigolo> renato_: thanks
[20:57] <esigolo> i was not able to find or remove com.canonical.Unity.Lens.MockMusic.service
[20:58] <esigolo> and com.canonical.Unity.Lens.MockVideos.service
[20:58] <sergiusens> esigolo: it's in demo-assets-videos and demo-assets-music
[20:59] <Kaleo_> Saviq: no
[20:59] <Kaleo_> Saviq: loic's review first
[20:59] <Saviq> Kaleo_, k
[20:59] <Kaleo_> Saviq: what API's do you have to keep stable?
[20:59] <Kaleo_> Saviq: the lenses?
[20:59] <Saviq> Kaleo_, everything shell-facing
[20:59] <Kaleo_> Saviq: ah ah
[21:00] <Kaleo_> Saviq: would not be a problem if you had only one bzr branch :)
[21:00] <Saviq> Kaleo_, been there, done that, not gonna happen
[21:00] <Kaleo_> Saviq: still disagree :)
[21:00] <Saviq> Kaleo_, not only because bzr is crap
[21:00] <Kaleo_> Saviq: I only have 2 years experience with it, don't lister :)
[21:00] <Kaleo_> listen*
[21:01] <Saviq> Kaleo_, can we not do this again?
[21:01] <esigolo> sergiusens: so i just need to remove the sample videos ? rm *.mp4
[21:01] <Saviq> Kaleo_, we decided against, period.
[21:01] <Kaleo_> Saviq: good for you
[21:01] <Kaleo_> Saviq: I won't stop saying what I thinjk
[21:01] <Kaleo_> -j
[21:01] <sergiusens> esigolo: remove the packages, the files will go with
[21:01] <Saviq> Kaleo_, I know what you think, not sure why you need to reiterate like this
[21:01] <Saviq> Kaleo_, it's not gonna change it
[21:02] <Kaleo_> Saviq: because you are facing an issue that is a consequence of your decision
[21:02] <Kaleo_> Saviq: and you are talkging about it
[21:02] <esigolo> sergiusens: tks
[21:02] <Kaleo_> -g
[21:02] <Saviq> Kaleo_, it's not an issue
[21:02] <Saviq> Kaleo_, it's a solution
[21:02] <Kaleo_> Saviq: lol
[21:02] <Kaleo_> Saviq: to an issue
[21:02] <Kaleo_> Saviq: that you are having
[21:02] <Kaleo_> Saviq: so you are not talking about the issue per se but about its solution
[21:02] <Kaleo_> Saviq: giving you another solution really
[21:03] <Saviq> Kaleo_, yes, because we've decided it's not feasible to apply your no-issue
[21:03] <Saviq> Kaleo_, 'cause it brings several other issues with it
[21:03] <Saviq> Kaleo_, we just have to agree to disagree, I'm not going to try to convince you, please don't try and convince me
[21:04] <Kaleo_> Saviq: I will not stop telling you what I think is better, sorry
[21:04] <Saviq> Kaleo_, fine, can I not listen, then?
[21:04] <Kaleo_> Saviq: of course
[21:04] <Kaleo_> Saviq: you've been doing it well!
[21:04] <Saviq> Kaleo_, I intend to keep that up
[21:05] <Kaleo_> Saviq: you should be careful though
[21:05] <Kaleo_> Saviq: I mean in general
[21:05] <Kaleo_> Saviq: there are people with valid input
[21:27] <zeokila> Is there any way to make a Flow scrollable with Scrollbar?
[21:40] <bobweaver> hello there I am trying to make a couple of plugins in one package and am having some troubles with the qml stuff.  Was wondering if I could get some help :) I install the plugins that I made and all work but the qml ones they still can not bee seen by import MythTv 0.1   Will post code soon  my .pro  file   http://pastebin.com/HgLxxSxN Will post all code in a minute after it is uploaded but if you see anything in that profile here is
[21:40] <bobweaver> qmldir file.  http://pastebin.com/RFa9s8 and as you can see if I list the plugins that I have it is there but it is not showing up when I import it :(   http://pastebin.com/draWQsLg
[22:11] <RobbyF> how is the email client so far?
[22:11] <RobbyF> I need to use it as a daily driver
[22:22] <AskUbuntu> what are the 3 new img files for installing ubuntu touch 13.10 saucy? | http://askubuntu.com/q/316479
[22:32] <bobweaver> Code is now updated and located here https://code.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/mythbuntu/mythtv-qml
[22:54] <JHOSMAN> Hello! =)
[22:55] <JHOSMAN> I have a question regarding text boxes in QT Creator, I can declare it and display it with no problem but how do I get the value I wrote in this TextArea?
[23:02] <bobweaver> JHOSMAN,  depends on what you are trying to do with that value
[23:02] <netcurli_> http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-13.04/qml/ui-toolkit/qml-ubuntu-components0-textarea.html
[23:03] <bobweaver> JHOSMAN,  in most qml elemnts you set the "id" then you call on that.  Or not sure if you are talking c++  or Qml by "value "
[23:04] <JHOSMAN> bobweaver: If that thought, I have declared an TextArea with id "text", now I want to print what I have in that textarea with id "text" but not how.
[23:05] <bobweaver> JHOSMAN,  try a unique id: fooText
[23:06] <mhall119> JHOSMAN: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-13.04/qml/ui-toolkit/qml-ubuntu-components0-textarea.html#text-prop
[23:06] <bobweaver> if there is a value of a property in qml you an not add that as your id
[23:09] <JHOSMAN> bobweaver: How do I show what is on that ID? eg if java would be: System.out.println(ID)
[23:09] <JHOSMAN> thanks mhall119
[23:12] <JHOSMAN> true? mhall119 bobweaver http://pastebin.com/yn4wZyeB
[23:14] <bobweaver> JHOSMAN,  kinda what is lable ?  a thing in Button ?
[23:15] <JHOSMAN> Yes
[23:15] <bobweaver> JHOSMAN,  set the "id"  for the Button and have it change names that way I will take your code and hack for a second
[23:16] <JHOSMAN> thanks! =) bobweaver
[23:21] <bobweaver> JHOSMAN,  try this  http://pastebin.com/5n9tjigy
[23:22] <JHOSMAN> bobweaver: The question is how to make a GetText from the TextArea object
[23:23] <JHOSMAN> bobweaver:  error in "                               mButton.text = fooText objectName"
[23:24] <bobweaver> i spelled the id of the Button wrong :(
[23:24] <bobweaver> and I have no clue what objectname is
[23:24] <bobweaver> I am guessing it is a string
[23:26] <JHOSMAN> I'm confused
[23:27] <netcurli> JHOSMAN: http://pastebin.com/zDeexqGg
[23:27] <JHOSMAN> What can be the name objectname
[23:27] <netcurli> the objectName property is used by autopilot tests
[23:28] <bobweaver> so it is just tests netcurli  ?
[23:28] <netcurli> bobweaver: your code contains syntax errors
[23:28] <bobweaver> << has no idea about suotpilot
[23:28] <bobweaver> which code ?
[23:29] <netcurli> http://pastebin.com/5n9tjigy
[23:29] <netcurli> line 19
[23:29] <bobweaver> yeah there is no .
[23:29] <bobweaver> to connect the objects
[23:29] <JHOSMAN> bobweaver: Greats! http://pastebin.com/s0bUf3Qe
[23:29] <JHOSMAN> :D
[23:30] <bobweaver> netcurli,  you know anything about making qml into libs ?
[23:31] <netcurli> you mean like the ubuntu components?
[23:31] <bobweaver> I buit 3 libs and they all install but the qml one wont work :/
[23:31] <bobweaver> netcurli,  yeah
[23:32] <bobweaver> netcurli,  https://code.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/mythbuntu/mythtv-qml
[23:32] <bobweaver> the libs are in the src folder go figure
[23:32] <JHOSMAN> bobweaver: One last question, as I can create a variable in order to generate transactions between variables?
[23:33] <bobweaver> JHOSMAN,  you can use curl brackets to hold javascript on most propertys
[23:33] <bobweaver> or use alias or other propertys
[23:34] <bobweaver> Like a property variant mItem: fooText.objectName
[23:37] <netcurli> bobweaver: could you make a simple example that I could test?
[23:37] <JHOSMAN> I JHOSMAN,  you can use curl brackets to hold javascript on most propertys
[23:37] <JHOSMAN> I back in a moment
[23:42] <bobweaver> JHOSMAN,  you can declare javascript to most "propertys" like text{var mFOO = "foobar"}   but using "property" like "property alias mBar: fooText.text"  can be used in a Element on its own  Rectangle { property alias mBar: fooText.text ;  id: foo;.....   ......  }
[23:43] <bobweaver> s|text{var mFOO = "foobar"}| text:{var mFOO = "foobar"}
[23:43] <bobweaver> most people use property in root Items/Elements
[23:43] <esigolo> battery is going fast
[23:44] <esigolo> it was full charged 1 hour ago
[23:44] <bobweaver> or that is what I have seen in a lot of code
[23:44] <esigolo> now has only 50%
[23:44] <bobweaver> netcurli,  just bzr the branch and open the top *.pro  file in qtcreator and that will open the project to build
[23:45] <netcurli> it takes a long time to bzr that whole branch
[23:45] <bobweaver> netcurli,  or the one that is pusre qml in src/mythTv/*.pro
[23:45] <bobweaver> netcurli,  there are alot of images and I have to take out the android build
[23:46] <netcurli> I am making my own example locally now
[23:47] <bobweaver> like make it so that there is <src>/programs/> {android, gcc,minglw, ect ect }
[23:48] <esigolo> rsalveti: just fyi call and sms are working good after a reboot ! i think is just 3g with problem ! :)
[23:52] <netcurli> bobweaver: what error message do you get?
[23:53] <bobweaver> netcurli,  file:///home/joseph/Templates/build-Mythbuntu-QML-Desktop_Qt_5_1_0_GCC_32bit-Release/programs/frontend/qml/Mythbuntu-QML/main.qml:9:1: module "MythTv" is not installed
[23:53] <bobweaver>      import  MythTv 0.1
[23:53] <bobweaver> but it is
[23:55] <netcurli> the module name has to match the directory name
[23:55] <bobweaver> Yeah It is is camel allright ?
[23:55] <bobweaver> " mythTv "
[23:56] <bobweaver> I was getting a error "Plugin verification data mismatch in "
[23:56] <bobweaver> but I need to clean it all and rename that is hack some .pro files
[23:56] <netcurli> you can use camel case
[23:57] <netcurli> the plugin error message has nothing to do with the qml files
[23:59] <netcurli> bobweaver: I have to go to bed now, it's 2 am here, can we continue this tomorrow?