[00:13] i'm having some trouble getting ubuntu on s2 working. i had cm 10.1 nightly build installed. did a factory reset and installed both zips mentioned on the forum/wiki http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2188621 but i'm getting a blank screen when i boot [00:13] i can do adb shell and i can get in but no su access so no access to dmesg === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [00:46] i was half hoping someone may have some old mirrors of copies of a build that worked seeing as others are having the same issues === jono is now known as Guest55880 [01:31] rsalveti: rockin', I fixed the issue with indicator-server, the merge is good [01:31] cyphermox: awesome [01:31] I'll bring up a MR with the needed changes [01:32] cyphermox: so should we approve that mr? or are you replacing it with another one? [01:32] let's approve, and I'll push a MR on top [01:32] ok [01:33] cyphermox: please approve them, as you tested it [01:33] *then [01:33] tomorrow's image should be a good one :-) === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [01:52] rsalveti: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/indicator-server/null-detailed-action/+merge/172940 [01:52] indeed, tomorrow's is going to be pretty cool [01:52] note, you'll still need to use nmcli to disconnect data, that got broken in my code it seems [01:52] something's not looking for the wwan state before activating connections or not [01:53] so when you flip the switch, it does disconnect but then it tries to auto-activate the connection again. [01:53] right [01:53] we can fix that tomorrow :-) [01:53] will test your mr in a few [02:15] so, /me logs off for the night [02:16] rsalveti: good night, talk to you tomorrow, I'll fix the actual wwan disable to work properly [02:16] cyphermox: sure, cya, have a good night [02:16] you too === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [02:35] how is the email client so far? === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [03:29] hi everyone. === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo [03:49] i just did a "phablet-flash -b" [03:50] my nexus 7 has rebooted into CWM [03:50] what should i do now? [03:51] i have got a message: autodeploy.zip not found [03:53] ignore my previous messages. [03:54] i was not patient. its rebooting now! [04:03] as per the Release Notes, I need to run "ubuntu_chroot shell". But now that we are using flipped images, we do not need to do this, right? [05:02] hi, can we do ubuntu touch developement on desktop running raring [05:03] with no touch support on desktop [05:08] airdrone: yes, i believe. read this post to get setup: http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/07/join-the-ubuntu-touch-core-apps-development-team/ [05:08] airdrone: you can just run the apps on your desktop and use your mouse and keyboard to emulate touch input [06:20] looks like the touch-coreapps package is broken on 11.04: touch-coreapps : Depends: stock-ticker-mobile-app but it is not installable Depends: dropping-letters but it is not going to be installed [06:24] TobyK: i am not able to replicate that issue. have you run "sudo apt-get update" before trying to install the meta-package? [06:25] I ran exactly this as per David Planella's post: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/daily && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install touch-coreapps [06:28] TobyK: are you running this directly on your touch device? [06:28] no on desktop [06:29] TobyK: ah. ok. i have run this on my touch device. [06:29] I am also running a touch device (nexus 7),which is working fine [06:29] let me try on my desktop then. [06:30] TobyK: which version of Ubuntu are you running on your desktop? [06:30] 11.04 [06:30] wait I mean 13.04 [06:30] sorry [06:31] TobyK: ok. [06:31] i do not have a 13.04 machine around to test. [06:32] ok no prob [06:32] TobyK: you should ask again here after a few hours, when the touch developers come online [06:32] will do, thanks rigved [06:32] TobyK: just out of curiosity, what version of the touch-coreapps are you trying to install? [06:33] version? I'm not sure - the latest I guess. [06:33] TobyK: apt-cache policy touch-coreapps [06:33] TobyK: run that command on your desktop machine [06:33] touch-coreapps: Installed: (none) Candidate: 1.0.6 Version table: 1.0.6 0 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/daily/ubuntu/ raring/main amd64 Packages [06:34] TobyK: ok. i can see that it was uploaded by popey a few hours back [06:34] you should contact him [06:35] ok [06:36] TobyK: i just checked and it seems that 13.10 is using 1.0.4 [06:36] so, maybe some issue there [06:37] and the 13.10 package seems fine. [06:37] sorry i cannot help [06:52] good morning [06:59] dholbach: good morning [06:59] hi rigved [07:00] dholbach: hi [07:17] TobyK: can you pastebin the entire output of doing the "sudo apt-get install touch-coreapps" please? [07:19] popey: sure [07:20] http://pastebin.com/rZ87Q1zk [07:20] thanks [07:21] TobyK: can you "sudo apt-get install stock-ticker-mobile-app dropping-letters" and pastebin the output please? [07:22] http://pastebin.com/ZgaHze1M [07:23] aha [07:23] TobyK: you're on 13.04? [07:23] yes [07:26] TobyK: ok, thanks, fixing it [07:26] excellent :-) [07:26] I have an even bigger issue tho on my Nexus 7 - running a saucy build, I did an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade an hour ago, rebooted, not the phone shell doesn't come up [07:27] it boots up with blank screen - I've left it for 10 mins and still blank screen [07:28] i see other reports of the same issue [07:29] I can see the backlight on, and it responds to power button, but nothing else, no swipes, etc. [07:29] i believe its being worked on [07:29] ok, I'll phablet-flash tomorrow :) [07:29] you may be able to update/upgrade a bit later [07:30] how? I can't get to terminal [07:30] connect a cable, adb shell [07:30] aahh ok [07:30] excellent, thank you [07:30] np [07:36] TobyK: try "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install stock-ticker-mobile-app" now? [07:41] ok [07:43] popey: it worked! thanks :) [07:43] great [07:43] sorry about that [07:43] dropping-letters is still a problem [07:45] ok, so pastebin "sudo apt-get install dropping-letters" pls [07:46] http://pastebin.com/RYuLqTEn [07:49] TobyK: ok, fixing === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI [07:56] TobyK: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install dropping-letters [07:56] ok [07:57] soon there will be smartphones with ubuntu released at fall ? [07:57] or only for tablets ? [07:58] popey: looing good, it needs to install a bunch of new stuff like julius [07:59] TobyK: thanks for helping, sorry it was broken for you [07:59] popey: no prob, thanks for fixing === b0bben_ is now known as b0bben [08:13] ogra_: Hmm asac was telling me the other day that touch builds take 2.5 hours+ just for assembling the actual image; but checking the livefs log it seems to be more along 50mn or so [08:13] ogra_: perhaps it's much faster on the livefs buildd than in jenkins; would you know how long it took there? === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [08:19] hellow === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN [08:29] Good morning all, happy Upload A Virus To The Alien Mothership Day! :-D === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [08:38] JamesTait: what ? [08:38] is today that day ? [08:38] or you mean today is "independent day" ? === ara_ is now known as ara [08:39] its really interesting what those virus was written in ? macro virus ? [08:39] elkng, IIRC, in the movie Independence Day, the aliens invaded on Jul 2, destroyed several cities on Jul 3, and were destroyed by a primitive human computer virus on the Jul 4th. :) [08:39] "invaded on Jul 2" that was my birthday [08:40] no pun intended [08:40] I knew it! [08:40] You're one of them! [08:40] elkng, as for the details of how the virus worked, it's all in the deleted scenes. ;) [08:42] patented technology [08:43] multiplatform virus [08:43] could be in java [08:43] run everywhere === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [09:10] lool, hey, i said 90min-2h ... it used to be closer to 90min before we started to actually use a packaged initramfs (so i dont need to generate one for each arch) and when the whole stuff that was post processing the images was not moved into cdimage ... with the code in cdimage and a packaged initrd it got a lot faster already [09:13] ogra_: do you have the same conclusion that it's around 50mn these days? [09:13] yeah, with mirroring etc its more like 1h, but it definitely got faster the last week with the changes [09:14] (my desktp does it in 20min though :P ) [09:14] ogra_: mirroring is turnaround time but not build time though [09:14] yeah [09:14] ok cool [09:15] well it's not as bad as I feared then [09:15] it used to be and it wasnt clear how much the changes for image based updates will add [09:16] (it still isnt, but as long as we stay under the 90min turnaround time it should be fine) [09:16] i know xz processing on pandas is a lot slower than gz [09:16] we measured that in the past [09:17] (like 4x as slow or some such, i dont remember the exact numbers but it was significant) [09:18] and we are not generating the android side yet, that will also add up [09:19] (wont be much since we only unpack and recompress packaged content i guess but i wouldnt be surprised if we end up at 90min again) === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] [09:22] does anyone know what "Duden" means in german ? === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN === cdesai_ is now known as cdesai [09:29] elkng, Duden is a famous german dictionary (kind of the equivalent to the oxford dictionary in english) === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === oreneeshy_ is now known as oreneeshy === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:09] ogra_: you have heard about latest addition to Duden, right? =)))) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23142660 [11:11] xnox, heh, yeah [11:11] ogra_: is it really that widely used?! =) [11:12] over the course of the last year it definitely was a lot [11:12] Warum nicht Scheißesturm sagen? =))))) [11:12] :D [11:12] well, it comes out of social networks [11:14] the opposite is a "candystorm" btw :) [11:15] no way! [11:15] (if people change their mid you end up with cand on top of ... " [11:15] ) [11:15] *mind [11:24] As per the Release Notes, I need to run "ubuntu_chroot shell". But now that we are using flipped images, we do not need to do this, right? [11:24] Hi [11:26] Just a suggestion for the installation page here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install [11:27] for those who have a compatible phone, rooted and a custom recovery [11:27] rigved, right, it would be great if you could change the wiki :) [11:28] ogra_: ok. changing. [11:28] yay, you rock :) [11:28] they just have to put the two .zip file on the phone, flash them with the custom recovery [11:28] it works, people don't even need adb [11:28] (manual way) [11:28] it could be interesting to write it [11:29] eylith, sure you can, but not all recovery modes have the same menus so using the adb way is a safe bet that works on all of them [11:30] feel free to add something below the adb/autodeploy.zip shtuff, how to do it with different recovery modes the way you describe [11:30] (note that with flipped the flashing order is essential) [11:30] eh [11:31] ogra_: I'm not sure I can edit the page [11:31] you need to log in indeed [11:31] eylith: but if you know how to flash a android rom, you know how to flash this [11:31] this is obvious [11:32] if you are that clever you might not even need/read the instructions :) [11:32] ogra_: actualy, i was really sure that if you say to use adb, it was a good reason [11:33] there are plans to enhance phablet-flash to also support ported builds btw [11:33] like wipping the recovery, I don't know === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [11:33] anyway, thanks for the infos ogra_ and sorry for bothering you ^^ [11:33] well, wiping the recovery only works from fsatboot/bootloader mode [11:34] heh, you dont bother me :) no worries [11:34] (if i dont want to be bothered, i ignore IRC ;) ) [11:43] also, on my nexus 7 running the latest image, i cannot find the following files: [11:43] manage-address-books.py [11:43] /etc/tablet-services [11:43] /usr/share/dbus-1/services/com.canonical.Unity.Lens.MockMusic.service [11:43] it could well be that this was dropped with the dropping of the demo data [11:43] /usr/share/dbus-1/services/com.canonical.Unity.Lens.MockVideos.service [11:43] ogra_: oh ok. [11:44] tablet-services is definitely gone (was merged into device-services) [11:44] what should i do with that section of the release notes? [11:44] and will soon be gone completely if we have proper session setup [11:44] wipe it i'd say [11:45] ogra_: ok. love deleting stuff! [11:45] :) [11:46] and what about this line: [11:46] Ubuntu runs inside a custom container which uses a partitioned PID namespace. Using SSH allows a shell to be created within the new container, and thus have a proper view of the Ubuntu PID namespace. [11:46] this is also no longer true right? [11:46] uh, yeah, not true anymore [11:46] ogra_: cool. [11:47] ogra_: instead of deleting this line, i'll strike it through. Coz i don't know what to replace it with. [11:48] ok === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === diplo_ is now known as diplo [12:06] Hello everyone === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:08] (and the NSA) [12:10] deiu, while the NSA might capture us, the filters will only fire if you say i,e, bomb [12:10] oops now i did :P [12:11] ogra_: LOL [12:12] in fact, the entire section of sample content on the release notes page can be removed, right? [12:13] well, there is an option in phablet-flash that allows you to install it ... it should be replaced by that [12:13] s/it/the old demos for presenting/ [12:14] ogra_: ah. then i am not removing that part. [12:14] it also might be the reason that i do not have the manage-address-books.py file [12:14] yeah, ask sergiusens for exact steps to replace it with (once he is up) [12:14] right [12:17] ogra_: ok. will do so. [12:26] it maybe my imagination or possibly just a fix that landed with the flip image but the galaxy nexus seems to be running a lot smoother when more apps are open now than it was === docsporpcl is now known as casimiro [12:31] how do i go back to the previous page in the web browser? i am running the latest touch image on a nexus 7 [12:32] pull up from the bottom and press back [12:33] popey: should i pull up till the magnifying glass? [12:34] because when i pull up from the bottom, i do not get the toolbar [12:34] no [12:34] just pull up a short way [12:35] popey: no, nothing comes up when i pull up the short way. [12:35] forgot to mention. i was in the gmail app and clicked on a link in an email. now, i can't go back to the email list [12:36] ah [12:36] i am assuming this is still the web browser [12:36] you're in a chromeless browser, so there is no url bar [12:36] which is a known issue [12:36] ahh ok. [12:36] is there a bug report for it? [12:36] rigved: yeah so that is a web app pull up to the magnifier and try the back button in the hud it works on some apps but not others [12:37] bug 1116412 [12:37] bug 1116412 in webbrowser-app "[browser] webapps should have the chrome bar with only back & forward buttons enabled" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1116412 [12:37] guys, have you noticed the device number? [12:37] the what? [12:38] popey: adb devices [12:38] popey: we cannot choose device in the lab anymore [12:38] davmor2: in the hud for the gmail app, there is no back button. when i click on the "type or say a command" field, the on-screen keyboard does not come up [12:38] so, unable to seach for the back button there either [12:38] gema, you definitely should look at adb ... but use the USB info of your host [12:38] :( [12:38] *shouldn't [12:39] i dont know who had that mad idea, seems people use adb stuff everywhere ... it isnt and was never guaranteed to give you the right info [12:39] ogra_: you mean we should be using ro.boot.serialno? [12:39] (teh sdk does that too :( ) [12:39] gema, you should look at your PCs USB info [12:40] the wire gives you exact info about the attached HW [12:40] ogra_: unfortunately we are not in the lab [12:40] dont rely on some third party SW that can change at any time [12:40] popey: thanks [12:40] ogra_: ok, will talk to plars whenever he is back [12:40] davmor2: thanks [12:41] ogra_: I thought the flipping of the images changed that serial number behaviour [12:41] gema, alternatively you can indeed use getprop or read it from other android bits, but even that isnt guaranteed to stay as is [12:41] gema, right, it did [12:41] ogra_: we need to have a way to choose which device we run tests on [12:42] adbd doesnt work exactly the same way if running in ubuntu [12:42] gema, right, look at the USB info [12:42] ogra_: are you telling me it cannot be fixed or you are not planning on fixing or what [12:42] ogra_: we need to be using the supported method in the lab [12:42] it can change at any time [12:42] one that is actually reliable [12:42] it isnt a reliable source [12:42] and will be fixed when broken === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] [12:43] gema, as i said, use reliable hardware info [12:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5843403/ [12:44] (dmesg ... you should be able to get that info somewhere in sysfs on the host too) [12:44] ogra_: what did you run, lsusb? [12:44] dmesg|tail :) [12:45] ogra_: not very reliable in the lab [12:45] there must be a sysfs node with that info [12:45] with things connecting and disconnecting all the time [12:45] no idea where [12:45] ok [12:45] have someone fidn it :) [12:45] will do [12:45] cant be more reliable than the actual HW [12:45] ;) [12:45] need a usb switch like the vga one [12:47] adb [12:49] ogra@chromebook:~$ cat /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1/product [12:49] Galaxy Nexus [12:50] gema, .... just walk the subdirs in /sys/bus/usb/devices/ and read "product" to find whats attached where [12:50] ogra_: are you serious? [12:50] re-plugging grouper ... [12:50] ogra@chromebook:~$ cat /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1/product [12:50] Nexus 7 [12:51] on a machine with several devices of each you want us to guess like that? [12:51] guess ? [12:51] yep, we need to identify not just the type of device, but its serial number so that we don't use it twice at the same time [12:51] the above is obviously attached to usb port 1 as device 1 [12:52] ogra@chromebook:~$ cat /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1/serial [12:52] 015d2109ce281010 [12:52] like that ? [12:52] gema, you'll get a reliable serial from /sys/bus/usb/devices//serial [12:52] gema, usb id is always the same for a given usb port [12:52] thsi cant and wont change since it is provided by the chip in the phone [12:53] no matter what adb does on top [12:53] ogra_: ok, we'll work on that [12:53] Hi [12:53] gema, if tou have a proper implementation it would be cool to publish it soe the sdk guys and others coudll use it too [12:54] Hi guys [12:54] ogra_: we don't have it yet [12:54] I'm trying to install ubuntu on galaxy s2 [12:54] nned help [12:54] *need help [12:54] we need to get off that SW based device recognition everywhere [12:54] ogra_: and I still think there is value in you guys fixing the serial number thing [12:54] ogra_: but I agree we shouldn't be relying in adb [12:55] not in the lab, anyway [12:55] jeet_, talk to the porting person, there is usually a link to an xda theread on the device wikpage [12:55] Hello everyone. Is there a possibility to see how the calc app looks in landscape? [12:57] Ogra_, I did go through the XDA thread. And followed the steps. While flashing saucy-preinstalled-armel-i9100.zip it failed [12:57] Hi there, I have a question and I need some guidance [12:57] well, we dont maintain that here, talk to the porter on the thread [12:57] okay [12:57] thnx [12:58] pureCenor: you can start the calculator app on the desktop and then resize the window? [12:58] (or make him hang around here, then you can surely ask him here :) ) [12:58] I dont think it does anything special when you resize though [12:58] I'm trying to port Ubuntu touch to a beaglebone board, is it feasible? and is the porting page sufficient to do the porting? [12:58] gema, for x in ls /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/; do [ -e "$x/product" -a -e "$x/serial" ] && echo -e "$(cat $x/serial)\t$(cat $x/product)"; done [12:58] Fo2adZz, well, you will need a touchscreen based cape for it indeed [12:58] gema, and add a grep to get only the devices you want [12:59] popey: awesome, thx [12:59] Fo2adZz, beyond that it should be doable using the BBB android port [12:59] as a base [12:59] ogra_: are the last image working good ? [12:59] jibel: that's something that will be done by paul or whoever is caring for that machine [12:59] i mean calls, msg, 3? [12:59] esigolo, well, 03.1 worked fine for me [12:59] jibel: but I make a note of your command [13:00] ogra_: you have a mako too right? [13:00] esigolo, only as my provate phone, i dont install Ubuntu Touch on it ... my work devices are maguro and grouper [13:00] gema: hi, are you talking about the one that was showing up as 0123456789ABCDEF [13:00] plars: yes [13:00] gema: it's "fixed" now [13:00] plars: how? [13:01] gema: I was hitting a problem starting yesterday on mako and manta where it loses it's mind after reboot [13:01] gema: still trying to sort out why [13:01] plars: I see it on my device here, javier sees it on his device at home [13:01] are you saying you don't see it in the lab anymore? [13:01] gema: at home, it works fine for me on my mako, but starting yesterday, whenever those two device types reboot in the lab, I have to kill the adb server and restart it before things become sane again [13:01] orga_ thanks a lot for the reply [13:01] gema: mine works fine at home [13:02] plars: what about following ogra's and jibel's suggestion? [13:02] gema: of looking at the usb id? [13:02] and using the sysfs information to identify the devices [13:02] yep === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:02] gema: I'm unclear on how we pass that to adb... wasn't sure that was an option [13:02] Building Application Package for Ubuntu Touch -> Error | http://askubuntu.com/q/316298 [13:02] I have android working but im connecting to the board using a vnc server... would i be able to do the same with Ubuntu? === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN [13:02] plars: ok, I am sending us an email anyway === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI [13:02] gema: if that's a better way of giving adb the device id, I wonder why it wasn't used all along as the adb id of the device [13:02] we'll work it out [13:03] plars: we are not the only ones with this problem [13:03] I'd rather avoid workarounds that have everyone hitting their heads against a wall [13:08] ogra_: http://people.canonical.com/~xnox/product/ it would be nice to test them flipped/unflipped on all 4 images for any surprises =) [13:09] i need to be out for the later afternoon, but i'll try to test before (or worst case directly if i return) [13:11] gema: I'm not sure how having a bunch of devices connected to the same machine named 0123456789ABCDEF is going to help us [13:11] but maybe I'm misunderstanding [13:13] gema, jibel: using that script, this mako in the lab now shows up as 0123456789ABCDEF Android [13:13] plars, you ant to hand it the rigtht serial i guess [13:13] another question would i be able to use an vnc server to connect to ubuntu touch? Thanks in advance [13:13] ogra_: I have multiple devices connected to the same machine doing this [13:14] Fo2adZz: not currently, no [13:14] yes, i understand [13:14] ogra_: so having more than one showing up with that same improper ID is not going to help us, even if adb will allow us to use that bogus serial to connect [13:14] #popey thanks [13:14] ogra_: handing it the correct/original serial # just simply fails to connect, until adb-server is restarted [13:15] plars, you get such a fake serialfrom the actual usb port ? [13:15] ogra_: seems so, yes [13:15] how come they are coming up with 0123456789ABCDEF ? [13:15] * ogra_ can imagine that coming from adb , but surely not from USB itself [13:16] adb shell [13:16] oops [13:16] ogra_: I tried upgrading to the quantal lts hwe kernel yesterday on this box, but still broken [13:16] popey: are you on raring? [13:16] raring laptop yes [13:16] i have two devices attached [13:16] 04c770facfe7991f device [13:16] 015d2d4268480e12 device [13:17] yeah, same here, i getr proper USB serials from sysfs if i look [13:18] popey: ok, my raring laptop works fine, but for some reason precise/quantal in the lab does not [13:18] popey: is this on nexus4? [13:18] i have a nexus 4 and a nexus 7 attached [13:19] popey: something else odd I'm noticing is that it only seems to happen in the lab on manta and mako, grouper and maguro both seem unaffected [13:19] popey: and the nexus7 does it also? [13:19] look up ☻ [13:19] one is nexus 4, one is nexus 7 [13:19] my nexus 7 here works fine too [13:19] both flashed with 20130703 image [13:19] 015d2109ce281010 [13:19] both flipped [13:20] you should even be able to only gerp for the first half of teh serial to find which device it is [13:20] 015d2 is grouper iirc [13:21] (though idProduct might indeed be better for that) === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:26] ok, this is neat [13:26] after restarting adb server on my host, I get it back, but it still shows up wrong in sysfs [13:26]