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Kilosmorning all06:07
Squirmmorning Kilos 06:12
superflymorning Kilos, Squirm06:13
Kiloshi Squirm superfly HawkiesZA 06:14
Squirmmorning superfly 06:14
Squirmgot my Pi working again06:15
plustwohi all06:29
Kiloshi plustwo 06:29
plustwoo/ Kilos06:30
HawkiesZAMorning Kilos06:35
Superhumanmorning all06:37
SuperhumanKilos: Present for you: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yt7fl1hmt6jsikx/BiPAC_7300NRE_7300NX_UM_EN.pdf06:37
Kiloshi Superhuman 06:37
SuperhumanManual for the router.06:37
Kilosty very much06:38
SuperhumanIt is 6.87Mb06:38
Kilosnp tanks man06:38
SquirmKilos: what are you trying to do?06:38
Kilosmake a wifi modem see my 3g here Squirm 06:38
Kiloswifi router06:39
Squirmwhat do you mean?06:39
SuperhumanSquirm, connection sharing from wifi connected devices through a pc (gateway).06:39
Kilosrouter dont see my arab modem so gotta make it share from the pc06:40
SuperhumanTablet->wifi Router->LAN->PC->3G06:40
Superhuman->Internet06:40
SquirmKilos: set your pc up like you had it sharing wifi between your 2 PCs, that should work. Then normally where you set your wifi routers IP address, you should be able to put in a default gateway, use the IP for your computer(with the modem attached)06:41
Squirms/sharing wifi/sharing internet06:41
SuperhumanSquirm: that is what we are setting up. We just need to setup dhcp on the router, and then masquerading on the pc...06:42
Kiloswill look at every which way. just i did a new install yesterday so will need to find what all is needed etc06:42
Squirmok06:42
SquirmSuperhuman: sorry, thought you were struggling06:43
Kilosand the Superhuman seems to have things under control06:43
Squirm:P06:43
* Squirm keeps quiet now06:43
Kilostablet is new to me dunno how peeps control them06:43
SuperhumanSquirm: no problems, feel free to add advice06:44
SuperhumanKilos: do you have iptables or other firewall running on the pc?06:44
Kilosnot anymore06:44
SquirmI still don't know *exactly* how to setup iptables to NAT06:44
Kilosused to have06:44
SquirmKilos: you most likely still have iptables installed06:45
SuperhumanSquirm: yeah, I might try to pull an expert in for that (frozty)06:45
Kilosyip iptables is still here06:46
SquirmSuperhuman: I know it isn't actually hard. probably 3 or so lines into iptables and enabling ipv4 forwarding. but idk what those 3 lines would be :P06:46
Superhumansame here06:47
Kilosdo you guys use acroread for pdf files i find it easier then document viewer06:55
SuperhumanKilos, have you had a chance to check if last night's config is still there?06:55
* Superhuman uses whatever opens up pdfs (no preference)06:55
Kilosnope can do ifconfig06:55
SuperhumanMaaz: coffee on06:56
* Maaz starts grinding coffee06:56
SquirmMaaz: coffee please06:56
MaazSquirm: Alrighty06:56
SquirmMaaz: large06:56
MaazIn a beer mug just for you Squirm06:56
KilosMaaz, coffee please06:56
MaazKilos: Done06:56
Kilosyip still here06:56
SuperhumanI go get irl coffee06:56
KilosMaaz, larger06:56
Maazinna bucket for you Kilos06:56
SquirmSuperhuman: that manual you uploaded, is it for the exact router? Cause it says it's a 3G router06:57
Kilosyip exact\06:57
SquirmMaaz: larger06:57
Maazinna bucket for you Squirm06:57
SuperhumanSquirm: for NX and N range.06:57
SquirmKilos: why not just connect your 3G modem into the back of your router?06:57
Superhumanbrb06:57
Kilosbecause it dont see the arab modem06:58
Squirmok06:58
Kilostct alcatel06:58
Kilosthey only have 4 modems in their support base06:59
MaazCoffee's ready for Superhuman, Squirm and Kilos!07:00
KilosMaaz, dankie man07:00
MaazGroot plesier my vriend07:00
Squirmwoop, cofffffeeeeeeee07:00
Kilosi gotta just go do sheep/fowls07:04
SuperhumanMaaz: botsnack07:10
Maaz:)07:10
SuperhumanKilos: if you're ready, you an point your pc's browser to http://192.168.1.254/07:11
Superhuman*can07:11
Kilosum how do i do that07:19
Superhumanjust a normal url, instead of a domain name, just use the ip07:20
Kilosoh ok07:20
Kilosit dosnt go past submit07:23
Superhumanwhat submit?07:23
Superhumandoes it ask for username/password?07:23
Kilosit opens with a windows to login with name and password07:24
Superhumanadmin and admin07:24
Kilosah07:24
Kilosshows adsl firewall router page07:25
Superhumanok, is the an option for Easy sign on?07:31
Superhumanlooks like some setup wizard they have.07:31
Kilosdont see easy sign on anywhere07:32
Kilosquick start i see?07:32
Kilosbang to just tick things07:33
SuperhumanOk lets do that.07:33
Kilosshows connect mode 3g07:35
Kilosisnt that for 3g in it07:35
Superhumandisable that07:35
Superhumanyeah, if you connect modem to it.07:35
Kilosoptions are only 3g and adsl no disable block07:36
Superhumanis there a Jump to Wireless setting?07:38
Kilosnope just continue button07:38
Superhumanok continue.07:38
Kilos*Warning: Entering the wrong PIN code three times will lock the SIM.07:40
Kilosshows utms and auto and some other 3g settings07:40
Kilosand it has pasword **** in there already07:40
Superhumanthat's fine. we're not going to use the 3g stuff.07:40
Superhumanwe're looking for wlan settings.07:41
Kilosmust i continue07:41
Superhumanyes.07:41
Kilosthe last window showed wlan as disabled07:41
Superhumanok, you can enable it there.07:42
Superhumanthen we must fille that form in...07:42
Kilosunder the quick start option there is wan and wlan07:42
Superhumanwlan is for the wireless part.07:43
Kilosno option to enable on this page\07:43
Superhumanwan is for the adsl or 3g stuff.07:43
SuperhumanIs there a option on the left for wlan?07:43
Kilosya07:43
Superhumanclick that sucker, we want to play there.07:44
Kilosalso an advanced one07:44
Superhumanjust wlan07:44
Kilosya i can enable it there07:45
Superhumanok, click enable.07:45
KilosHide ESSID07:45
SuperhumanIn ESSID set the name for your wireless network. 32 characters max. Case senstive.07:45
SuperhumanDon't hide ESSID. keep as disabled.07:45
SuperhumanRegulation domain as default.07:46
SuperhumanChannel can be 1.07:46
SuperhumanSecurity mode: WPA2.07:46
Kilosn america07:46
Kilosno za option07:47
Superhumanyou can leave as n america07:47
Kilosok07:47
Superhumanhave you selected the WPA2 option?07:47
Kilosya07:48
Superhumanok, keep RADIUS unchecked.07:48
Kilosok07:48
SuperhumanWPA shared key should be a long-ish password that you'll use to auth with the wireless...07:49
Kilosthen there is an apply button07:49
SuperhumanGroup Ket renewal can be left as 3600.07:49
Superhumanclick apply.07:49
Kiloswait07:49
Superhumanwaiting07:50
Kilosi gotta sort wpa shared key07:50
Superhumanok07:50
Kilosmy password ok?07:50
Kilossame as on pc?07:50
Superhumanthis will be a password you'll give friends and family if you want to give them access to the wifi. So something new perhaps07:51
Kilosoh my07:51
Superhuman"oh my oh my" will work too07:52
Kiloshehe07:52
Kilosim using it07:52
Kilosapply?07:53
Superhumanyes07:53
Kilossorry im so slow, im bang these stuffs07:53
Superhumanok, you can try to connect the tablet to the wifi now. So we can check if it is working.07:54
Kiloseish07:54
Kilostimed out gotta start again07:54
Superhumannp, we're in no rush.07:54
Superhumanok, we can go straight to wlan setting. 2nd time is always better...and easier.07:55
Kilosok07:56
Kilosthe radius block we dont enable?07:57
Superhumannope.07:57
Superhumanyou're not going to have dialup people connecting to you.07:57
Kilosok07:57
Kilosah07:57
Kilosi cant try tablet sis has gone to get sheep concentrate and it in her bag07:58
Kilossigh07:58
Superhumanthat's fine. we can wait.08:00
Kiloscool ty08:00
Superhumanhave you added the wlan settings?08:01
Kilosby ticking apply?08:01
Superhumanyes08:01
Kilosya08:02
Kilostimes out quick the thing08:02
Superhumanagain timeout?08:02
Kilosone needs to know what to do to keep up08:02
Kilos3 times now08:02
Kiloshehe08:03
Kilostop of the wlan page shows adsl firewall router08:03
Kilosnot wlan08:04
Superhuman:(08:04
Kilossigh08:04
Kilosas jy kan sukkel sal jy08:05
Superhumanbut the page has the essid stuff in it?08:05
Kilosya08:05
Superhumanok, so the correct page...08:05
Kilosyay08:05
Superhumanis there a submit button, of apply button...08:06
Kilosapply08:06
Kilosi did it08:06
Superhumanthen it times out?08:07
Kilosya08:07
Kilosi take sheep to grazing quick08:08
Kiloshi nocware 08:14
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za08:14
nocwareThnks..08:14
Kilosthis is the za ubuntu/linux help channel can we help you?08:15
nocwareNot right nw.Bt i'll be sure to ask in case08:16
Kiloscool08:16
Kiloswe also welcome peeps that can help noobs with linux problems as well08:21
Kilosyo inetpro cremora08:25
nocwarewhois Kilos08:30
Kiloshehe me08:31
Superhumanyou forgot the forwardslash. lol08:32
nocwarehehe tried the IRC for my country...empty kinda empty08:32
nocwareyup too late (/) wont forget again...lol08:32
Kiloswhere are you nocware 08:32
Superhumanfreenode is best for technical communities.08:32
nocwareUganda u?08:32
Kiloswe have guys from all over here08:32
Kilosah08:32
Kilossouth africa08:33
Kiloshttp://mybroadband.co.za/news/adsl/81289-telkom-adsl-ipc-price-cuts-coming-sources.html08:38
Kilosdidnt read it. dont have adsl08:39
magespawngod morning all08:43
magespawnsorry 08:43
magespawngood08:43
Kilosmorning magespawn 08:43
nocwaremorning08:45
magespawnhi nocware08:45
Superhumanmagespawn: that's more or less how my morning started...08:46
nocwareSo i'm using a 3G usb modem, network manager works just fine but wen i install the software that came with the modem it fails to detect it.08:47
nocwarei mean the dialer for the modem software08:47
nocwarenet manager still detects it..calrification08:48
magespawni am a little out of it this week, only just got out of bed08:49
magespawnnocware: most of the software packeged with those modems is only for windows08:49
magespawnand hes gone08:50
nocwareim bck08:50
Kilosnocware: most of the software packeged with those modems is only for windows08:50
Kilospackaged08:50
nocwarethis one has a linux package08:51
Kilosyou can try this 3g tool it normally sorts modem probs08:53
Kiloshttp://trixarian.net/sakis3g.gz08:53
magespawni am off again later all08:53
Kilosgo safe magespawn 08:54
nocwarelet me get on tht 08:57
nocware.08:57
Kiloshttp://forum.slitaz.org/topic/read-this-if-you-use-a-3g-modem-to-connect08:58
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 09:14
KilosSquirm,  This week MyBroadband is running a competition where we are giving away a Nexus 7 tablet and a remote controlled helicopter.09:22
KilosThis week MyBroadband is running a competition where we are giving away a Nexus 7 tablet and a remote controlled helicopter.09:22
Kiloseish09:22
Kiloshttp://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/541881-Win-a-Nexus-7-tablet-Remote-Controlled-Helicopter09:22
SquirmI see09:25
SquirmI just can't find the banners09:25
SquirmI bought a keychain camera yesterday. going to stick it to my R/C aeroplane09:26
Kiloshehe09:34
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inetprogood afternoon11:55
inetproand hi Kilos11:55
Kiloshi there inetpro 11:57
magespawnafternoon Kilos and lurkers12:08
Kiloshehe hi magespawn 12:09
Kilosso you clever peeps, is http://is.gd/8Eq3K0 a cheap and nasty or is it worth me trying to build a strong outside gain antenna for it to see if i can reach towns hotspots12:15
Kiloslotsa info in the book but i dunno what half of it means or how it compares to others12:16
ThatGraemeGuyhow far are you from the hotspot?12:16
Kilosmaybe 15 ks12:16
Kilosor a bit more12:17
ThatGraemeGuyi don't think they have that kind of range do they?12:17
ThatGraemeGuy(not a wireless geek)12:17
Kilosi dunno thats why i asked12:18
ThatGraemeGuyyou mean a hotspot like you'd find at the mall or something like that?12:18
Kilosya or any other wifi link i can find12:19
ThatGraemeGuynah its too far for normal wifi12:19
Kilosi think good gain antennna see line of site much further12:19
ThatGraemeGuyyou'd need something more powerful on the hotspot's side i think12:19
Kilosthe antenna should improve both send receive signals12:20
ThatGraemeGuybut like i said.... not a wireless geek12:20
Kilosthem tiny antenna on the box wont see far12:20
Kilosonly like office/home coverage12:22
ThatGraemeGuymight be the case12:22
ThatGraemeGuybut 99% of those things are not unlimited anyway12:22
ThatGraemeGuyeither you have to pay or you get 50MB/hour type restrictions12:22
ThatGraemeGuywhich area are you in?12:23
Kilosthats cool for irc and mail12:23
Kiloshehe12:23
Kiloswest of pta12:23
ThatGraemeGuycan't you get on to ptawug?12:23
Kilostheir equipment is expensive12:23
ThatGraemeGuyit depends12:24
Kilosand they are on 5g mainly though i saw something about 2.4 as well12:24
ThatGraemeGuyif you're lucky you can hook up using a mikrotik SXT which is like R50012:24
Kilosthey sell cheaper than the manufacturers but still12:24
Kiloskit costs R160012:24
ThatGraemeGuyan SXT is R500 more or less, under the right conditions that'll do just fine12:25
ThatGraemeGuyi'm in the process of doing this down here12:25
Kilosah12:25
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://www.scoopdistribution.co.za/product_info.php?products_id=141312:26
ThatGraemeGuyk, sorry, a bit more than R50012:26
ThatGraemeGuybut still relatively cheap compared to the RB+grib combos12:26
Kiloshow does that thing connect12:28
ThatGraemeGuywirelessly12:29
ThatGraemeGuyis that a trick question? :)12:29
Kiloshaha i meant to pc12:29
ThatGraemeGuyethernet12:29
Kilosoh its a router12:30
Kiloswill have to put it very high up to see into pta12:30
Kilosand weather might kill it12:30
ThatGraemeGuyyou'll need assistance from a wug boffin, they know the best ways to do that stuff12:31
Kilosthats for internal use i think12:31
ThatGraemeGuynope12:31
Kilosptawug say one needs to use an outside dish12:31
ThatGraemeGuyok well12:32
ThatGraemeGuyi'm not going to argue the point12:32
ThatGraemeGuyguess that's no good then12:32
Kiloshehe12:32
tonberryE352just remember, scoop does not sell to mere mortals12:32
ThatGraemeGuyscoop in ct will sell to anyone on the WUG account. just give them your wug handle, and pay COD or EFT on collection12:33
Kilosoh i see its a 16db gain antenna12:33
ThatGraemeGuymaybe ptawug have a policy against sxt's, i dunno12:34
ThatGraemeGuybut technically they connect just fine12:34
ThatGraemeGuythere are 3 sxts within a 200m radius of me on ctwug12:34
Kilosi will first build a yagi or quad to see if i can see any wireless signal12:34
tonberryE352self built wifi antennas are rarely worth the effort12:35
Kilospointless buying if not sure12:35
ThatGraemeGuyyou're making this so diffucult for yourself, seriously12:35
tonberryE352find someone with a decent antenna or router and borrow it12:35
ThatGraemeGuythe wug guys have spare equipment for testing, if you contact them they will assist with scanning and all that stuff12:35
Kilosah12:35
Kilosmaybe if i give my co-ords they will know12:36
Kilosbut they dont supply internet12:36
Kilosso gotta use a hotspot or something12:37
ThatGraemeGuyexactly, you create a login, plot yourself on the map and it'll tell you which are the likely sites12:37
ThatGraemeGuyyea, officially they don't12:37
ThatGraemeGuybut in theory, if you were to befriend someone and share internet over the wug network, that could work12:37
Kilosah12:37
ThatGraemeGuynot that anyone would do that, of course ;)12:38
ThatGraemeGuyin ct there are hundreds of wuggers not doing that :D12:38
ThatGraemeGuybecause doing that would be wrong12:38
* ThatGraemeGuy whistles12:38
Kiloslol12:38
tonberryE352technically illegal does not mean wrong...12:38
Kilosmethinks illegal has been removed from the south african dictionary12:50
Kilosspooks here, keyboard stopped working13:14
Kilosreboot and all fine13:15
Kiloshmm...13:15
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Kiloswhew what a business14:37
Vince-0Neotel just lost a core switch's card in Umhlanga - half of Durban is offline14:53
Kilosoh my14:53
Vince-0and its almost 5pm! I'm bailing on this kaka14:53
Kiloshmm...15:21
not_foundo/15:21
Kiloshi not_found 15:21
not_foundhow are you uncle Kilos?15:23
Kilosgood ty not_found and you lad15:23
not_foundok thanks... one more night to go :D15:24
Kilosthen you become neelsie again15:31
Kiloshehe15:31
not_found:p15:34
Kiloshi Vince-0 Cantide Mezenir 16:02
Cantidehello :)16:02
* Cantide is eating dinner16:02
Vince-0haai16:15
Cantidehai hai~16:16
not_foundlife... don't talk to me about life...16:16
Kiloshi trender adeebnqo 16:50
Kiloswassup not_found 16:51
adeebnqohey, trender?16:51
Kilosi greetd him as well16:52
Kilosgreeted16:52
not_found*yawn*16:52
adeebnqo:-) oh16:54
Kiloslol16:54
Cantidelooks like i'm going to PTA for a few days :)16:54
Cantidewhooo '-'v16:54
Kilosits cold here Cantide 16:54
Cantide:p16:54
Cantidei'll be fine16:54
Cantidemy aunt has over 20 cats to keep me warm16:55
Kiloseeeek16:55
Cantidejust gotta go get my police clearance and have some documents sorted out for my Korean ViSA16:55
Kilosah16:56
not_foundCantide:nice...  I would love to go to S Korea16:57
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Cantidenot_found, i'll put you in my luggage :p16:59
not_foundthx16:59
Cantidehow many pieces would you prefer to travel in?16:59
Trixar_zaWell that's fun. Just put in a 1.1GHz Celeron into this box. If I suddenly disappear, it's because the CPU overheated :P17:00
Cantide:)17:00
Kiloswb jabberwocky_ 17:38
jabberwocky_thanks Kilos :)17:38
jabberwocky_hey!17:38
jabberwocky_I tried to get multiseat setup working on Xserver using only 1 graphics card, 2 screens, 2 mice and 2 keyboards. I've been pulling out my hair all day.17:41
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jabberwocky_I'm glad to see that kubuntu 13.10 is working without any problems, could've had more problems since it's on alpha1 atm17:42
* not_found sidestepped 13.10 but still have pretty bleeding edge software...18:00
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magespawnEvening all18:27
not_foundo/18:27
Kiloshi magespawn 18:27
magespawnJust reading the scroll18:30
nuvolari_llo :)18:42
nuvolari_*ello18:42
nuvolari_*hello18:42
not_foundo/18:42
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nuvolarioh hi not_found 18:43
nuvolarihow be you?18:43
nuvolarihi oom Kilos 18:43
Kiloslo nuvolari good ty and you?18:43
not_foundI be ok thanks nuvolari... how about you?18:44
magespawnhey not_found nuvolari 18:45
not_foundo/ magespawn18:45
nuvolariI'm good than you oom Kilos 18:46
nuvolari*thank18:46
nuvolariI be good thanks not_found 18:46
nuvolarihowdy magespawn 18:46
nuvolarihow are you?18:46
* nuvolari tips hat18:46
Kiloshehe18:46
nuvolaritrying to play with bootstrap18:46
magespawnKilos: the problem with the wifi is the original signal strength18:46
nuvolaribut my interwebs are broken18:47
magespawngood nuvolari, getting better 18:47
Kilosa hi gain antenna is very directional and sen and receive are increased18:47
Kilosnuvolari, 18:48
KilosVince-0> Neotel just lost a core switch's card in Umhlanga - half of Durban is offline18:48
magespawntech going to be going bat crazy down there now18:49
Vince-0heyo mayo18:51
Vince-0that shoulda been fixed by 18:3018:51
Vince-0but I dunno sometimes18:51
Kilosnight all . sleep tight and warm18:54
not_foundnight all18:56
magespawnwhat would be the practical use for a multiseat arrangement?19:01
magespawnyou would need a fast machine if the users wanted to intensive programs19:06
magespawn^use19:07
magespawnany who, more reading to do, and bed time, night all.19:14
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