[06:07] morning all [06:12] morning Kilos [06:13] morning Kilos, Squirm [06:14] hi Squirm superfly HawkiesZA [06:14] morning superfly [06:15] got my Pi working again [06:29] hi all [06:29] hi plustwo [06:30] o/ Kilos [06:35] Morning Kilos [06:37] morning all [06:37] Kilos: Present for you: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yt7fl1hmt6jsikx/BiPAC_7300NRE_7300NX_UM_EN.pdf [06:37] hi Superhuman [06:37] Manual for the router. [06:38] ty very much [06:38] It is 6.87Mb [06:38] np tanks man [06:38] Kilos: what are you trying to do? [06:38] make a wifi modem see my 3g here Squirm [06:39] wifi router [06:39] what do you mean? [06:39] Squirm, connection sharing from wifi connected devices through a pc (gateway). [06:40] router dont see my arab modem so gotta make it share from the pc [06:40] Tablet->wifi Router->LAN->PC->3G [06:40] ->Internet [06:41] Kilos: set your pc up like you had it sharing wifi between your 2 PCs, that should work. Then normally where you set your wifi routers IP address, you should be able to put in a default gateway, use the IP for your computer(with the modem attached) [06:41] s/sharing wifi/sharing internet [06:42] Squirm: that is what we are setting up. We just need to setup dhcp on the router, and then masquerading on the pc... [06:42] will look at every which way. just i did a new install yesterday so will need to find what all is needed etc [06:42] ok [06:43] Superhuman: sorry, thought you were struggling [06:43] and the Superhuman seems to have things under control [06:43] :P [06:43] * Squirm keeps quiet now [06:43] tablet is new to me dunno how peeps control them [06:44] Squirm: no problems, feel free to add advice [06:44] Kilos: do you have iptables or other firewall running on the pc? [06:44] not anymore [06:44] I still don't know *exactly* how to setup iptables to NAT [06:44] used to have [06:45] Kilos: you most likely still have iptables installed [06:45] Squirm: yeah, I might try to pull an expert in for that (frozty) [06:46] yip iptables is still here [06:46] Superhuman: I know it isn't actually hard. probably 3 or so lines into iptables and enabling ipv4 forwarding. but idk what those 3 lines would be :P [06:47] same here [06:55] do you guys use acroread for pdf files i find it easier then document viewer [06:55] Kilos, have you had a chance to check if last night's config is still there? [06:55] * Superhuman uses whatever opens up pdfs (no preference) [06:55] nope can do ifconfig [06:56] Maaz: coffee on [06:56] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [06:56] Maaz: coffee please [06:56] Squirm: Alrighty [06:56] Maaz: large [06:56] In a beer mug just for you Squirm [06:56] Maaz, coffee please [06:56] Kilos: Done [06:56] yip still here [06:56] I go get irl coffee [06:56] Maaz, larger [06:56] inna bucket for you Kilos [06:57] Superhuman: that manual you uploaded, is it for the exact router? Cause it says it's a 3G router [06:57] yip exact\ [06:57] Maaz: larger [06:57] inna bucket for you Squirm [06:57] Squirm: for NX and N range. [06:57] Kilos: why not just connect your 3G modem into the back of your router? [06:57] brb [06:58] because it dont see the arab modem [06:58] ok [06:58] tct alcatel [06:59] they only have 4 modems in their support base [07:00] Coffee's ready for Superhuman, Squirm and Kilos! [07:00] Maaz, dankie man [07:00] Groot plesier my vriend [07:00] woop, cofffffeeeeeeee [07:04] i gotta just go do sheep/fowls [07:10] Maaz: botsnack [07:10] :) [07:11] Kilos: if you're ready, you an point your pc's browser to http://192.168.1.254/ [07:11] *can [07:19] um how do i do that [07:20] just a normal url, instead of a domain name, just use the ip [07:20] oh ok [07:23] it dosnt go past submit [07:23] what submit? [07:23] does it ask for username/password? [07:24] it opens with a windows to login with name and password [07:24] admin and admin [07:24] ah [07:25] shows adsl firewall router page [07:31] ok, is the an option for Easy sign on? [07:31] looks like some setup wizard they have. [07:32] dont see easy sign on anywhere [07:32] quick start i see? [07:33] bang to just tick things [07:33] Ok lets do that. [07:35] shows connect mode 3g [07:35] isnt that for 3g in it [07:35] disable that [07:35] yeah, if you connect modem to it. [07:36] options are only 3g and adsl no disable block [07:38] is there a Jump to Wireless setting? [07:38] nope just continue button [07:38] ok continue. [07:40] *Warning: Entering the wrong PIN code three times will lock the SIM. [07:40] shows utms and auto and some other 3g settings [07:40] and it has pasword **** in there already [07:40] that's fine. we're not going to use the 3g stuff. [07:41] we're looking for wlan settings. [07:41] must i continue [07:41] yes. [07:41] the last window showed wlan as disabled [07:42] ok, you can enable it there. [07:42] then we must fille that form in... [07:42] under the quick start option there is wan and wlan [07:43] wlan is for the wireless part. [07:43] no option to enable on this page\ [07:43] wan is for the adsl or 3g stuff. [07:43] Is there a option on the left for wlan? [07:43] ya [07:44] click that sucker, we want to play there. [07:44] also an advanced one [07:44] just wlan [07:45] ya i can enable it there [07:45] ok, click enable. [07:45] Hide ESSID [07:45] In ESSID set the name for your wireless network. 32 characters max. Case senstive. [07:45] Don't hide ESSID. keep as disabled. [07:46] Regulation domain as default. [07:46] Channel can be 1. [07:46] Security mode: WPA2. [07:46] n america [07:47] no za option [07:47] you can leave as n america [07:47] ok [07:47] have you selected the WPA2 option? [07:48] ya [07:48] ok, keep RADIUS unchecked. [07:48] ok [07:49] WPA shared key should be a long-ish password that you'll use to auth with the wireless... [07:49] then there is an apply button [07:49] Group Ket renewal can be left as 3600. [07:49] click apply. [07:49] wait [07:50] waiting [07:50] i gotta sort wpa shared key [07:50] ok [07:50] my password ok? [07:50] same as on pc? [07:51] this will be a password you'll give friends and family if you want to give them access to the wifi. So something new perhaps [07:51] oh my [07:52] "oh my oh my" will work too [07:52] hehe [07:52] im using it [07:53] apply? [07:53] yes [07:53] sorry im so slow, im bang these stuffs [07:54] ok, you can try to connect the tablet to the wifi now. So we can check if it is working. [07:54] eish [07:54] timed out gotta start again [07:54] np, we're in no rush. [07:55] ok, we can go straight to wlan setting. 2nd time is always better...and easier. [07:56] ok [07:57] the radius block we dont enable? [07:57] nope. [07:57] you're not going to have dialup people connecting to you. [07:57] ok [07:57] ah [07:58] i cant try tablet sis has gone to get sheep concentrate and it in her bag [07:58] sigh [08:00] that's fine. we can wait. [08:00] cool ty [08:01] have you added the wlan settings? [08:01] by ticking apply? [08:01] yes [08:02] ya [08:02] times out quick the thing [08:02] again timeout? [08:02] one needs to know what to do to keep up [08:02] 3 times now [08:03] hehe [08:03] top of the wlan page shows adsl firewall router [08:04] not wlan [08:04] :( [08:04] sigh [08:05] as jy kan sukkel sal jy [08:05] but the page has the essid stuff in it? [08:05] ya [08:05] ok, so the correct page... [08:05] yay [08:06] is there a submit button, of apply button... [08:06] apply [08:06] i did it [08:07] then it times out? [08:07] ya [08:08] i take sheep to grazing quick [08:14] hi nocware [08:14] welcome to ubuntu-za [08:14] Thnks.. [08:15] this is the za ubuntu/linux help channel can we help you? [08:16] Not right nw.Bt i'll be sure to ask in case [08:16] cool [08:21] we also welcome peeps that can help noobs with linux problems as well [08:25] yo inetpro cremora [08:30] whois Kilos [08:31] hehe me [08:32] you forgot the forwardslash. lol [08:32] hehe tried the IRC for my country...empty kinda empty [08:32] yup too late (/) wont forget again...lol [08:32] where are you nocware [08:32] freenode is best for technical communities. [08:32] Uganda u? [08:32] we have guys from all over here [08:32] ah [08:33] south africa [08:38] http://mybroadband.co.za/news/adsl/81289-telkom-adsl-ipc-price-cuts-coming-sources.html [08:39] didnt read it. dont have adsl [08:43] god morning all [08:43] sorry [08:43] good [08:43] morning magespawn [08:45] morning [08:45] hi nocware [08:46] magespawn: that's more or less how my morning started... [08:47] So i'm using a 3G usb modem, network manager works just fine but wen i install the software that came with the modem it fails to detect it. [08:47] i mean the dialer for the modem software [08:48] net manager still detects it..calrification [08:49] i am a little out of it this week, only just got out of bed [08:49] nocware: most of the software packeged with those modems is only for windows [08:50] and hes gone [08:50] im bck [08:50] nocware: most of the software packeged with those modems is only for windows [08:50] packaged [08:51] this one has a linux package [08:53] you can try this 3g tool it normally sorts modem probs [08:53] http://trixarian.net/sakis3g.gz [08:53] i am off again later all [08:54] go safe magespawn [08:57] let me get on tht [08:57] . [08:58] http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/read-this-if-you-use-a-3g-modem-to-connect [09:14] hi ThatGraemeGuy [09:22] Squirm, This week MyBroadband is running a competition where we are giving away a Nexus 7 tablet and a remote controlled helicopter. [09:22] This week MyBroadband is running a competition where we are giving away a Nexus 7 tablet and a remote controlled helicopter. [09:22] eish [09:22] http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/541881-Win-a-Nexus-7-tablet-Remote-Controlled-Helicopter [09:25] I see [09:25] I just can't find the banners [09:26] I bought a keychain camera yesterday. going to stick it to my R/C aeroplane [09:34] hehe === Xethron_ is now known as Xethron [11:55] good afternoon [11:55] and hi Kilos [11:57] hi there inetpro [12:08] afternoon Kilos and lurkers [12:09] hehe hi magespawn [12:15] so you clever peeps, is http://is.gd/8Eq3K0 a cheap and nasty or is it worth me trying to build a strong outside gain antenna for it to see if i can reach towns hotspots [12:16] lotsa info in the book but i dunno what half of it means or how it compares to others [12:16] how far are you from the hotspot? [12:16] maybe 15 ks [12:17] or a bit more [12:17] i don't think they have that kind of range do they? [12:17] (not a wireless geek) [12:18] i dunno thats why i asked [12:18] you mean a hotspot like you'd find at the mall or something like that? [12:19] ya or any other wifi link i can find [12:19] nah its too far for normal wifi [12:19] i think good gain antennna see line of site much further [12:19] you'd need something more powerful on the hotspot's side i think [12:20] the antenna should improve both send receive signals [12:20] but like i said.... not a wireless geek [12:20] them tiny antenna on the box wont see far [12:22] only like office/home coverage [12:22] might be the case [12:22] but 99% of those things are not unlimited anyway [12:22] either you have to pay or you get 50MB/hour type restrictions [12:23] which area are you in? [12:23] thats cool for irc and mail [12:23] hehe [12:23] west of pta [12:23] can't you get on to ptawug? [12:23] their equipment is expensive [12:24] it depends [12:24] and they are on 5g mainly though i saw something about 2.4 as well [12:24] if you're lucky you can hook up using a mikrotik SXT which is like R500 [12:24] they sell cheaper than the manufacturers but still [12:24] kit costs R1600 [12:25] an SXT is R500 more or less, under the right conditions that'll do just fine [12:25] i'm in the process of doing this down here [12:25] ah [12:26] http://www.scoopdistribution.co.za/product_info.php?products_id=1413 [12:26] k, sorry, a bit more than R500 [12:26] but still relatively cheap compared to the RB+grib combos [12:28] how does that thing connect [12:29] wirelessly [12:29] is that a trick question? :) [12:29] haha i meant to pc [12:29] ethernet [12:30] oh its a router [12:30] will have to put it very high up to see into pta [12:30] and weather might kill it [12:31] you'll need assistance from a wug boffin, they know the best ways to do that stuff [12:31] thats for internal use i think [12:31] nope [12:31] ptawug say one needs to use an outside dish [12:32] ok well [12:32] i'm not going to argue the point [12:32] guess that's no good then [12:32] hehe [12:32] just remember, scoop does not sell to mere mortals [12:33] scoop in ct will sell to anyone on the WUG account. just give them your wug handle, and pay COD or EFT on collection [12:33] oh i see its a 16db gain antenna [12:34] maybe ptawug have a policy against sxt's, i dunno [12:34] but technically they connect just fine [12:34] there are 3 sxts within a 200m radius of me on ctwug [12:34] i will first build a yagi or quad to see if i can see any wireless signal [12:35] self built wifi antennas are rarely worth the effort [12:35] pointless buying if not sure [12:35] you're making this so diffucult for yourself, seriously [12:35] find someone with a decent antenna or router and borrow it [12:35] the wug guys have spare equipment for testing, if you contact them they will assist with scanning and all that stuff [12:35] ah [12:36] maybe if i give my co-ords they will know [12:36] but they dont supply internet [12:37] so gotta use a hotspot or something [12:37] exactly, you create a login, plot yourself on the map and it'll tell you which are the likely sites [12:37] yea, officially they don't [12:37] but in theory, if you were to befriend someone and share internet over the wug network, that could work [12:37] ah [12:38] not that anyone would do that, of course ;) [12:38] in ct there are hundreds of wuggers not doing that :D [12:38] because doing that would be wrong [12:38] * ThatGraemeGuy whistles [12:38] lol [12:38] technically illegal does not mean wrong... [12:50] methinks illegal has been removed from the south african dictionary [13:14] spooks here, keyboard stopped working [13:15] reboot and all fine [13:15] hmm... === Spaceghost is now known as Guest71072 === Guest71072 is now known as Spaceghost [14:37] whew what a business [14:53] Neotel just lost a core switch's card in Umhlanga - half of Durban is offline [14:53] oh my [14:53] and its almost 5pm! I'm bailing on this kaka [15:21] hmm... [15:21] o/ [15:21] hi not_found [15:23] how are you uncle Kilos? [15:23] good ty not_found and you lad [15:24] ok thanks... one more night to go :D [15:31] then you become neelsie again [15:31] hehe [15:34] :p [16:02] hi Vince-0 Cantide Mezenir [16:02] hello :) [16:02] * Cantide is eating dinner [16:15] haai [16:16] hai hai~ [16:16] life... don't talk to me about life... [16:50] hi trender adeebnqo [16:51] wassup not_found [16:51] hey, trender? [16:52] i greetd him as well [16:52] greeted [16:52] *yawn* [16:54] :-) oh [16:54] lol [16:54] looks like i'm going to PTA for a few days :) [16:54] whooo '-'v [16:54] its cold here Cantide [16:54] :p [16:54] i'll be fine [16:55] my aunt has over 20 cats to keep me warm [16:55] eeeek [16:55] just gotta go get my police clearance and have some documents sorted out for my Korean ViSA [16:56] ah [16:57] Cantide:nice... I would love to go to S Korea === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [16:59] not_found, i'll put you in my luggage :p [16:59] thx [16:59] how many pieces would you prefer to travel in? [17:00] Well that's fun. Just put in a 1.1GHz Celeron into this box. If I suddenly disappear, it's because the CPU overheated :P [17:00] :) [17:38] wb jabberwocky_ [17:38] thanks Kilos :) [17:38] hey! [17:41] I tried to get multiseat setup working on Xserver using only 1 graphics card, 2 screens, 2 mice and 2 keyboards. I've been pulling out my hair all day. === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [17:42] I'm glad to see that kubuntu 13.10 is working without any problems, could've had more problems since it's on alpha1 atm [18:00] * not_found sidestepped 13.10 but still have pretty bleeding edge software... === Spaceghost is now known as Guest32446 [18:27] Evening all [18:27] o/ [18:27] hi magespawn [18:30] Just reading the scroll [18:42] llo :) [18:42] *ello [18:42] *hello [18:42] o/ === nuvolari_ is now known as nuvolari [18:43] oh hi not_found [18:43] how be you? [18:43] hi oom Kilos [18:43] lo nuvolari good ty and you? [18:44] I be ok thanks nuvolari... how about you? [18:45] hey not_found nuvolari [18:45] o/ magespawn [18:46] I'm good than you oom Kilos [18:46] *thank [18:46] I be good thanks not_found [18:46] howdy magespawn [18:46]