[06:07] <Kilos> morning all
[06:12] <Squirm> morning Kilos 
[06:13] <superfly> morning Kilos, Squirm
[06:14] <Kilos> hi Squirm superfly HawkiesZA 
[06:14] <Squirm> morning superfly 
[06:15] <Squirm> got my Pi working again
[06:29] <plustwo> hi all
[06:29] <Kilos> hi plustwo 
[06:30] <plustwo> o/ Kilos
[06:35] <HawkiesZA> Morning Kilos
[06:37] <Superhuman> morning all
[06:37] <Superhuman> Kilos: Present for you: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yt7fl1hmt6jsikx/BiPAC_7300NRE_7300NX_UM_EN.pdf
[06:37] <Kilos> hi Superhuman 
[06:37] <Superhuman> Manual for the router.
[06:38] <Kilos> ty very much
[06:38] <Superhuman> It is 6.87Mb
[06:38] <Kilos> np tanks man
[06:38] <Squirm> Kilos: what are you trying to do?
[06:38] <Kilos> make a wifi modem see my 3g here Squirm 
[06:39] <Kilos> wifi router
[06:39] <Squirm> what do you mean?
[06:39] <Superhuman> Squirm, connection sharing from wifi connected devices through a pc (gateway).
[06:40] <Kilos> router dont see my arab modem so gotta make it share from the pc
[06:40] <Superhuman> Tablet->wifi Router->LAN->PC->3G
[06:40] <Superhuman> ->Internet
[06:41] <Squirm> Kilos: set your pc up like you had it sharing wifi between your 2 PCs, that should work. Then normally where you set your wifi routers IP address, you should be able to put in a default gateway, use the IP for your computer(with the modem attached)
[06:41] <Squirm> s/sharing wifi/sharing internet
[06:42] <Superhuman> Squirm: that is what we are setting up. We just need to setup dhcp on the router, and then masquerading on the pc...
[06:42] <Kilos> will look at every which way. just i did a new install yesterday so will need to find what all is needed etc
[06:42] <Squirm> ok
[06:43] <Squirm> Superhuman: sorry, thought you were struggling
[06:43] <Kilos> and the Superhuman seems to have things under control
[06:43] <Squirm> :P
[06:43]  * Squirm keeps quiet now
[06:43] <Kilos> tablet is new to me dunno how peeps control them
[06:44] <Superhuman> Squirm: no problems, feel free to add advice
[06:44] <Superhuman> Kilos: do you have iptables or other firewall running on the pc?
[06:44] <Kilos> not anymore
[06:44] <Squirm> I still don't know *exactly* how to setup iptables to NAT
[06:44] <Kilos> used to have
[06:45] <Squirm> Kilos: you most likely still have iptables installed
[06:45] <Superhuman> Squirm: yeah, I might try to pull an expert in for that (frozty)
[06:46] <Kilos> yip iptables is still here
[06:46] <Squirm> Superhuman: I know it isn't actually hard. probably 3 or so lines into iptables and enabling ipv4 forwarding. but idk what those 3 lines would be :P
[06:47] <Superhuman> same here
[06:55] <Kilos> do you guys use acroread for pdf files i find it easier then document viewer
[06:55] <Superhuman> Kilos, have you had a chance to check if last night's config is still there?
[06:55]  * Superhuman uses whatever opens up pdfs (no preference)
[06:55] <Kilos> nope can do ifconfig
[06:56] <Superhuman> Maaz: coffee on
[06:56]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[06:56] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee please
[06:56] <Maaz> Squirm: Alrighty
[06:56] <Squirm> Maaz: large
[06:56] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you Squirm
[06:56] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[06:56] <Maaz> Kilos: Done
[06:56] <Kilos> yip still here
[06:56] <Superhuman> I go get irl coffee
[06:56] <Kilos> Maaz, larger
[06:56] <Maaz> inna bucket for you Kilos
[06:57] <Squirm> Superhuman: that manual you uploaded, is it for the exact router? Cause it says it's a 3G router
[06:57] <Kilos> yip exact\
[06:57] <Squirm> Maaz: larger
[06:57] <Maaz> inna bucket for you Squirm
[06:57] <Superhuman> Squirm: for NX and N range.
[06:57] <Squirm> Kilos: why not just connect your 3G modem into the back of your router?
[06:57] <Superhuman> brb
[06:58] <Kilos> because it dont see the arab modem
[06:58] <Squirm> ok
[06:58] <Kilos> tct alcatel
[06:59] <Kilos> they only have 4 modems in their support base
[07:00] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Superhuman, Squirm and Kilos!
[07:00] <Kilos> Maaz, dankie man
[07:00] <Maaz> Groot plesier my vriend
[07:00] <Squirm> woop, cofffffeeeeeeee
[07:04] <Kilos> i gotta just go do sheep/fowls
[07:10] <Superhuman> Maaz: botsnack
[07:10] <Maaz> :)
[07:11] <Superhuman> Kilos: if you're ready, you an point your pc's browser to http://192.168.1.254/
[07:11] <Superhuman> *can
[07:19] <Kilos> um how do i do that
[07:20] <Superhuman> just a normal url, instead of a domain name, just use the ip
[07:20] <Kilos> oh ok
[07:23] <Kilos> it dosnt go past submit
[07:23] <Superhuman> what submit?
[07:23] <Superhuman> does it ask for username/password?
[07:24] <Kilos> it opens with a windows to login with name and password
[07:24] <Superhuman> admin and admin
[07:24] <Kilos> ah
[07:25] <Kilos> shows adsl firewall router page
[07:31] <Superhuman> ok, is the an option for Easy sign on?
[07:31] <Superhuman> looks like some setup wizard they have.
[07:32] <Kilos> dont see easy sign on anywhere
[07:32] <Kilos> quick start i see?
[07:33] <Kilos> bang to just tick things
[07:33] <Superhuman> Ok lets do that.
[07:35] <Kilos> shows connect mode 3g
[07:35] <Kilos> isnt that for 3g in it
[07:35] <Superhuman> disable that
[07:35] <Superhuman> yeah, if you connect modem to it.
[07:36] <Kilos> options are only 3g and adsl no disable block
[07:38] <Superhuman> is there a Jump to Wireless setting?
[07:38] <Kilos> nope just continue button
[07:38] <Superhuman> ok continue.
[07:40] <Kilos> *Warning: Entering the wrong PIN code three times will lock the SIM.
[07:40] <Kilos> shows utms and auto and some other 3g settings
[07:40] <Kilos> and it has pasword **** in there already
[07:40] <Superhuman> that's fine. we're not going to use the 3g stuff.
[07:41] <Superhuman> we're looking for wlan settings.
[07:41] <Kilos> must i continue
[07:41] <Superhuman> yes.
[07:41] <Kilos> the last window showed wlan as disabled
[07:42] <Superhuman> ok, you can enable it there.
[07:42] <Superhuman> then we must fille that form in...
[07:42] <Kilos> under the quick start option there is wan and wlan
[07:43] <Superhuman> wlan is for the wireless part.
[07:43] <Kilos> no option to enable on this page\
[07:43] <Superhuman> wan is for the adsl or 3g stuff.
[07:43] <Superhuman> Is there a option on the left for wlan?
[07:43] <Kilos> ya
[07:44] <Superhuman> click that sucker, we want to play there.
[07:44] <Kilos> also an advanced one
[07:44] <Superhuman> just wlan
[07:45] <Kilos> ya i can enable it there
[07:45] <Superhuman> ok, click enable.
[07:45] <Kilos> Hide ESSID
[07:45] <Superhuman> In ESSID set the name for your wireless network. 32 characters max. Case senstive.
[07:45] <Superhuman> Don't hide ESSID. keep as disabled.
[07:46] <Superhuman> Regulation domain as default.
[07:46] <Superhuman> Channel can be 1.
[07:46] <Superhuman> Security mode: WPA2.
[07:46] <Kilos> n america
[07:47] <Kilos> no za option
[07:47] <Superhuman> you can leave as n america
[07:47] <Kilos> ok
[07:47] <Superhuman> have you selected the WPA2 option?
[07:48] <Kilos> ya
[07:48] <Superhuman> ok, keep RADIUS unchecked.
[07:48] <Kilos> ok
[07:49] <Superhuman> WPA shared key should be a long-ish password that you'll use to auth with the wireless...
[07:49] <Kilos> then there is an apply button
[07:49] <Superhuman> Group Ket renewal can be left as 3600.
[07:49] <Superhuman> click apply.
[07:49] <Kilos> wait
[07:50] <Superhuman> waiting
[07:50] <Kilos> i gotta sort wpa shared key
[07:50] <Superhuman> ok
[07:50] <Kilos> my password ok?
[07:50] <Kilos> same as on pc?
[07:51] <Superhuman> this will be a password you'll give friends and family if you want to give them access to the wifi. So something new perhaps
[07:51] <Kilos> oh my
[07:52] <Superhuman> "oh my oh my" will work too
[07:52] <Kilos> hehe
[07:52] <Kilos> im using it
[07:53] <Kilos> apply?
[07:53] <Superhuman> yes
[07:53] <Kilos> sorry im so slow, im bang these stuffs
[07:54] <Superhuman> ok, you can try to connect the tablet to the wifi now. So we can check if it is working.
[07:54] <Kilos> eish
[07:54] <Kilos> timed out gotta start again
[07:54] <Superhuman> np, we're in no rush.
[07:55] <Superhuman> ok, we can go straight to wlan setting. 2nd time is always better...and easier.
[07:56] <Kilos> ok
[07:57] <Kilos> the radius block we dont enable?
[07:57] <Superhuman> nope.
[07:57] <Superhuman> you're not going to have dialup people connecting to you.
[07:57] <Kilos> ok
[07:57] <Kilos> ah
[07:58] <Kilos> i cant try tablet sis has gone to get sheep concentrate and it in her bag
[07:58] <Kilos> sigh
[08:00] <Superhuman> that's fine. we can wait.
[08:00] <Kilos> cool ty
[08:01] <Superhuman> have you added the wlan settings?
[08:01] <Kilos> by ticking apply?
[08:01] <Superhuman> yes
[08:02] <Kilos> ya
[08:02] <Kilos> times out quick the thing
[08:02] <Superhuman> again timeout?
[08:02] <Kilos> one needs to know what to do to keep up
[08:02] <Kilos> 3 times now
[08:03] <Kilos> hehe
[08:03] <Kilos> top of the wlan page shows adsl firewall router
[08:04] <Kilos> not wlan
[08:04] <Superhuman> :(
[08:04] <Kilos> sigh
[08:05] <Kilos> as jy kan sukkel sal jy
[08:05] <Superhuman> but the page has the essid stuff in it?
[08:05] <Kilos> ya
[08:05] <Superhuman> ok, so the correct page...
[08:05] <Kilos> yay
[08:06] <Superhuman> is there a submit button, of apply button...
[08:06] <Kilos> apply
[08:06] <Kilos> i did it
[08:07] <Superhuman> then it times out?
[08:07] <Kilos> ya
[08:08] <Kilos> i take sheep to grazing quick
[08:14] <Kilos> hi nocware 
[08:14] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[08:14] <nocware> Thnks..
[08:15] <Kilos> this is the za ubuntu/linux help channel can we help you?
[08:16] <nocware> Not right nw.Bt i'll be sure to ask in case
[08:16] <Kilos> cool
[08:21] <Kilos> we also welcome peeps that can help noobs with linux problems as well
[08:25] <Kilos> yo inetpro cremora
[08:30] <nocware> whois Kilos
[08:31] <Kilos> hehe me
[08:32] <Superhuman> you forgot the forwardslash. lol
[08:32] <nocware> hehe tried the IRC for my country...empty kinda empty
[08:32] <nocware> yup too late (/) wont forget again...lol
[08:32] <Kilos> where are you nocware 
[08:32] <Superhuman> freenode is best for technical communities.
[08:32] <nocware> Uganda u?
[08:32] <Kilos> we have guys from all over here
[08:32] <Kilos> ah
[08:33] <Kilos> south africa
[08:38] <Kilos> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/adsl/81289-telkom-adsl-ipc-price-cuts-coming-sources.html
[08:39] <Kilos> didnt read it. dont have adsl
[08:43] <magespawn> god morning all
[08:43] <magespawn> sorry 
[08:43] <magespawn> good
[08:43] <Kilos> morning magespawn 
[08:45] <nocware> morning
[08:45] <magespawn> hi nocware
[08:46] <Superhuman> magespawn: that's more or less how my morning started...
[08:47] <nocware> So i'm using a 3G usb modem, network manager works just fine but wen i install the software that came with the modem it fails to detect it.
[08:47] <nocware> i mean the dialer for the modem software
[08:48] <nocware> net manager still detects it..calrification
[08:49] <magespawn> i am a little out of it this week, only just got out of bed
[08:49] <magespawn> nocware: most of the software packeged with those modems is only for windows
[08:50] <magespawn> and hes gone
[08:50] <nocware> im bck
[08:50] <Kilos> nocware: most of the software packeged with those modems is only for windows
[08:50] <Kilos> packaged
[08:51] <nocware> this one has a linux package
[08:53] <Kilos> you can try this 3g tool it normally sorts modem probs
[08:53] <Kilos> http://trixarian.net/sakis3g.gz
[08:53] <magespawn> i am off again later all
[08:54] <Kilos> go safe magespawn 
[08:57] <nocware> let me get on tht 
[08:57] <nocware> .
[08:58] <Kilos> http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/read-this-if-you-use-a-3g-modem-to-connect
[09:14] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[09:22] <Kilos> Squirm,  This week MyBroadband is running a competition where we are giving away a Nexus 7 tablet and a remote controlled helicopter.
[09:22] <Kilos> This week MyBroadband is running a competition where we are giving away a Nexus 7 tablet and a remote controlled helicopter.
[09:22] <Kilos> eish
[09:22] <Kilos> http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/541881-Win-a-Nexus-7-tablet-Remote-Controlled-Helicopter
[09:25] <Squirm> I see
[09:25] <Squirm> I just can't find the banners
[09:26] <Squirm> I bought a keychain camera yesterday. going to stick it to my R/C aeroplane
[09:34] <Kilos> hehe
[11:55] <inetpro> good afternoon
[11:55] <inetpro> and hi Kilos
[11:57] <Kilos> hi there inetpro 
[12:08] <magespawn> afternoon Kilos and lurkers
[12:09] <Kilos> hehe hi magespawn 
[12:15] <Kilos> so you clever peeps, is http://is.gd/8Eq3K0 a cheap and nasty or is it worth me trying to build a strong outside gain antenna for it to see if i can reach towns hotspots
[12:16] <Kilos> lotsa info in the book but i dunno what half of it means or how it compares to others
[12:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> how far are you from the hotspot?
[12:16] <Kilos> maybe 15 ks
[12:17] <Kilos> or a bit more
[12:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> i don't think they have that kind of range do they?
[12:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> (not a wireless geek)
[12:18] <Kilos> i dunno thats why i asked
[12:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> you mean a hotspot like you'd find at the mall or something like that?
[12:19] <Kilos> ya or any other wifi link i can find
[12:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> nah its too far for normal wifi
[12:19] <Kilos> i think good gain antennna see line of site much further
[12:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> you'd need something more powerful on the hotspot's side i think
[12:20] <Kilos> the antenna should improve both send receive signals
[12:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> but like i said.... not a wireless geek
[12:20] <Kilos> them tiny antenna on the box wont see far
[12:22] <Kilos> only like office/home coverage
[12:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> might be the case
[12:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> but 99% of those things are not unlimited anyway
[12:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> either you have to pay or you get 50MB/hour type restrictions
[12:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> which area are you in?
[12:23] <Kilos> thats cool for irc and mail
[12:23] <Kilos> hehe
[12:23] <Kilos> west of pta
[12:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> can't you get on to ptawug?
[12:23] <Kilos> their equipment is expensive
[12:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> it depends
[12:24] <Kilos> and they are on 5g mainly though i saw something about 2.4 as well
[12:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> if you're lucky you can hook up using a mikrotik SXT which is like R500
[12:24] <Kilos> they sell cheaper than the manufacturers but still
[12:24] <Kilos> kit costs R1600
[12:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> an SXT is R500 more or less, under the right conditions that'll do just fine
[12:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm in the process of doing this down here
[12:25] <Kilos> ah
[12:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://www.scoopdistribution.co.za/product_info.php?products_id=1413
[12:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> k, sorry, a bit more than R500
[12:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> but still relatively cheap compared to the RB+grib combos
[12:28] <Kilos> how does that thing connect
[12:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> wirelessly
[12:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> is that a trick question? :)
[12:29] <Kilos> haha i meant to pc
[12:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> ethernet
[12:30] <Kilos> oh its a router
[12:30] <Kilos> will have to put it very high up to see into pta
[12:30] <Kilos> and weather might kill it
[12:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> you'll need assistance from a wug boffin, they know the best ways to do that stuff
[12:31] <Kilos> thats for internal use i think
[12:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> nope
[12:31] <Kilos> ptawug say one needs to use an outside dish
[12:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok well
[12:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm not going to argue the point
[12:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> guess that's no good then
[12:32] <Kilos> hehe
[12:32] <tonberryE352> just remember, scoop does not sell to mere mortals
[12:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> scoop in ct will sell to anyone on the WUG account. just give them your wug handle, and pay COD or EFT on collection
[12:33] <Kilos> oh i see its a 16db gain antenna
[12:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe ptawug have a policy against sxt's, i dunno
[12:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> but technically they connect just fine
[12:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> there are 3 sxts within a 200m radius of me on ctwug
[12:34] <Kilos> i will first build a yagi or quad to see if i can see any wireless signal
[12:35] <tonberryE352> self built wifi antennas are rarely worth the effort
[12:35] <Kilos> pointless buying if not sure
[12:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> you're making this so diffucult for yourself, seriously
[12:35] <tonberryE352> find someone with a decent antenna or router and borrow it
[12:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> the wug guys have spare equipment for testing, if you contact them they will assist with scanning and all that stuff
[12:35] <Kilos> ah
[12:36] <Kilos> maybe if i give my co-ords they will know
[12:36] <Kilos> but they dont supply internet
[12:37] <Kilos> so gotta use a hotspot or something
[12:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> exactly, you create a login, plot yourself on the map and it'll tell you which are the likely sites
[12:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> yea, officially they don't
[12:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> but in theory, if you were to befriend someone and share internet over the wug network, that could work
[12:37] <Kilos> ah
[12:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> not that anyone would do that, of course ;)
[12:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> in ct there are hundreds of wuggers not doing that :D
[12:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> because doing that would be wrong
[12:38]  * ThatGraemeGuy whistles
[12:38] <Kilos> lol
[12:38] <tonberryE352> technically illegal does not mean wrong...
[12:50] <Kilos> methinks illegal has been removed from the south african dictionary
[13:14] <Kilos> spooks here, keyboard stopped working
[13:15] <Kilos> reboot and all fine
[13:15] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:37] <Kilos> whew what a business
[14:53] <Vince-0> Neotel just lost a core switch's card in Umhlanga - half of Durban is offline
[14:53] <Kilos> oh my
[14:53] <Vince-0> and its almost 5pm! I'm bailing on this kaka
[15:21] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:21] <not_found> o/
[15:21] <Kilos> hi not_found 
[15:23] <not_found> how are you uncle Kilos?
[15:23] <Kilos> good ty not_found and you lad
[15:24] <not_found> ok thanks... one more night to go :D
[15:31] <Kilos> then you become neelsie again
[15:31] <Kilos> hehe
[15:34] <not_found> :p
[16:02] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 Cantide Mezenir 
[16:02] <Cantide> hello :)
[16:02]  * Cantide is eating dinner
[16:15] <Vince-0> haai
[16:16] <Cantide> hai hai~
[16:16] <not_found> life... don't talk to me about life...
[16:50] <Kilos> hi trender adeebnqo 
[16:51] <Kilos> wassup not_found 
[16:51] <adeebnqo> hey, trender?
[16:52] <Kilos> i greetd him as well
[16:52] <Kilos> greeted
[16:52] <not_found> *yawn*
[16:54] <adeebnqo> :-) oh
[16:54] <Kilos> lol
[16:54] <Cantide> looks like i'm going to PTA for a few days :)
[16:54] <Cantide> whooo '-'v
[16:54] <Kilos> its cold here Cantide 
[16:54] <Cantide> :p
[16:54] <Cantide> i'll be fine
[16:55] <Cantide> my aunt has over 20 cats to keep me warm
[16:55] <Kilos> eeeek
[16:55] <Cantide> just gotta go get my police clearance and have some documents sorted out for my Korean ViSA
[16:56] <Kilos> ah
[16:57] <not_found> Cantide:nice...  I would love to go to S Korea
[16:59] <Cantide> not_found, i'll put you in my luggage :p
[16:59] <not_found> thx
[16:59] <Cantide> how many pieces would you prefer to travel in?
[17:00] <Trixar_za> Well that's fun. Just put in a 1.1GHz Celeron into this box. If I suddenly disappear, it's because the CPU overheated :P
[17:00] <Cantide> :)
[17:38] <Kilos> wb jabberwocky_ 
[17:38] <jabberwocky_> thanks Kilos :)
[17:38] <jabberwocky_> hey!
[17:41] <jabberwocky_> I tried to get multiseat setup working on Xserver using only 1 graphics card, 2 screens, 2 mice and 2 keyboards. I've been pulling out my hair all day.
[17:42] <jabberwocky_> I'm glad to see that kubuntu 13.10 is working without any problems, could've had more problems since it's on alpha1 atm
[18:00]  * not_found sidestepped 13.10 but still have pretty bleeding edge software...
[18:27] <magespawn> Evening all
[18:27] <not_found> o/
[18:27] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[18:30] <magespawn> Just reading the scroll
[18:42] <nuvolari_> llo :)
[18:42] <nuvolari_> *ello
[18:42] <nuvolari_> *hello
[18:42] <not_found> o/
[18:43] <nuvolari> oh hi not_found 
[18:43] <nuvolari> how be you?
[18:43] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos 
[18:43] <Kilos> lo nuvolari good ty and you?
[18:44] <not_found> I be ok thanks nuvolari... how about you?
[18:45] <magespawn> hey not_found nuvolari 
[18:45] <not_found> o/ magespawn
[18:46] <nuvolari> I'm good than you oom Kilos 
[18:46] <nuvolari> *thank
[18:46] <nuvolari> I be good thanks not_found 
[18:46] <nuvolari> howdy magespawn 
[18:46] <nuvolari> how are you?
[18:46]  * nuvolari tips hat
[18:46] <Kilos> hehe
[18:46] <nuvolari> trying to play with bootstrap
[18:46] <magespawn> Kilos: the problem with the wifi is the original signal strength
[18:47] <nuvolari> but my interwebs are broken
[18:47] <magespawn> good nuvolari, getting better 
[18:47] <Kilos> a hi gain antenna is very directional and sen and receive are increased
[18:48] <Kilos> nuvolari, 
[18:48] <Kilos> Vince-0> Neotel just lost a core switch's card in Umhlanga - half of Durban is offline
[18:49] <magespawn> tech going to be going bat crazy down there now
[18:51] <Vince-0> heyo mayo
[18:51] <Vince-0> that shoulda been fixed by 18:30
[18:51] <Vince-0> but I dunno sometimes
[18:54] <Kilos> night all . sleep tight and warm
[18:56] <not_found> night all
[19:01] <magespawn> what would be the practical use for a multiseat arrangement?
[19:06] <magespawn> you would need a fast machine if the users wanted to intensive programs
[19:07] <magespawn> ^use
[19:14] <magespawn> any who, more reading to do, and bed time, night all.
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