ahoneybunhas the same versions00:00
ahoneybunand dget on that page?00:01
ahoneybunwhat do you mean merged the changelogs?00:01
Riddellcopy the link to the .dsc from http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/partitionmanager00:02
Riddelland dget that00:02
Riddellto merge changelogs I start with the debian package00:02
Riddelldch -i to add a new entry with ubuntu1 on the end of the version number00:02
ahoneybunwhere is the deb version? in current or in partitionmanager?00:02
Riddellversion of what?00:03
Riddellcurrent/ has the saucy package00:03
Riddelldebi/ has the debian package00:03
Riddelland ~ has what I've been working on00:03
Riddellthat's just how I tend to organise things00:04
Riddell01:02 < Riddell> to merge changelogs I start with the debian package00:04
Riddell01:02 < Riddell> dch -i to add a new entry with ubuntu1 on the end of the version number00:04
Riddellthen I copy the ubuntu changelog and paste it into the working one at the place where they diverged00:04
Riddelland delete the old debian one below that00:04
ahoneybunso 00:04
ahoneybuncd debi00:04
ahoneybunand dch -i to add new entry like we did in digikam00:05
RiddellI keep debi untouched00:05
Riddelland copy it into a working directory00:05
Riddellto work in00:05
Riddellthen dch -i to add new entry00:06
ahoneybunoh copy the debi into the ubuntu changelog?00:06
Riddellcopy the debi/ package into another directory to do your work in00:06
Riddelland in that package run dch -i then merge in the ubuntu changelog00:06
ahoneybunI'm not getting the merge concept, is that copying the debian changelog to the ubuntu's one?00:07
RiddellI start with the package from debian 00:08
Riddelland copy the ubuntu changelog into that where they diverged00:08
ahoneybunok I'm in the debi one00:09
Riddellahoneybun: let me show you00:09
ahoneybunso copy the most recent changes into the debi00:09
ahoneybunmaybe I should just stick with the Docs00:11
Riddellahoneybun: so they diverged at 1.0.2-100:11
Riddellso I copyied the ubuntu changelog and pasted it in above 1.0.2-100:12
ahoneybunlet me see00:12
Riddell(this is how I do merged changelogs, there's other ways to do it)00:12
ahoneybunI don't know emac00:12
ahoneybunget out of there please so I can see the ubuntu changelog00:13
Riddellall yours00:14
RiddellI don't think you can open more than one file in nano so I don't know how to take stuff from one file and paste it into another00:14
Riddellit's too big for that00:15
ahoneybunI see he 1.0.2-100:15
ahoneybunSo I would copy the things above that mark to the debi changelog?00:16
Riddellyeah so that's the most recent debian entry in the ubuntu changelog so you can tell that's where it diverged00:16
ahoneybunso you copied the debi dir into the merge dir?00:18
RiddellI start with the debian package00:18
ahoneybunsmall steps for me00:18
Riddellthen merge in any changes we want in ubuntu00:18
ahoneybunhow so? copy the ubuntu dir into there too?00:20
Riddellno by looking at what's different and working out what we want to keep00:20
Riddellso reading the changelog entries since the last debian merge00:20
ahoneybunoh ok00:21
Riddelland doing a diff on the debian dirs to see what's different00:21
ahoneybunthis is the step in coping the ubu changelog to the deb one00:21
ahoneybunthinking now nano is so simple00:23
Riddellyou could use kate00:25
ahoneybunthat is... oh yea00:25
Riddellopen sftp://ubuntu@ec2-54-227-97-38.compute-1.amazonaws.com/home/ubuntu/foo00:25
ahoneybunbut should learn emacs I guess00:25
Riddellwell that's a few evenings in itself00:25
ahoneybuni see00:26
ahoneybunI see00:26
ahoneybunhow do I get out of emacs lol00:26
Riddellcontrol-x control-c00:27
ahoneybunyea I can't do that00:28
ahoneybunstupid nano00:28
ahoneybunsoooo much easier on my system with a GUI lol00:29
manchickenJontheEchidna: Yo, do you have the ability to add keys in this Alpha as well?00:29
ahoneybunRiddell: seems you already did the work...00:30
manchickenJontheEchidna: That looks like the only apt functionality that I'd be missing.00:31
Riddellyo manchicken, did you get anywhere with docs on server script?00:31
manchickenRiddell: There's a dump program for this.00:32
manchickenWhat's the name of the Wiki again?00:32
manchickenI can't remember.00:33
ahoneybunmanchicken: I'm clueless on how to use it00:35
ahoneybunI don't if I need to download something or what00:36
manchickenahoneybun: That wiki page I just put up has a usage example.00:36
manchickenI think it dumps the whole thing at once.00:36
* ahoneybun is still lost but that is ok00:36
JontheEchidnamanchicken: nope. I'd like to have the functionality, but I've not found the time to do it00:40
manchickenJontheEchidna: Either I need to find an API for that, or I need to escape to the shell.00:42
ahoneybunRiddell: use diff in which debian dir?00:43
Riddellahoneybun: between the working one and the ubuntu one00:43
Riddelldiff -urN debian ../current/partition-1.3/debian00:44
Riddellor similar00:44
ahoneybunI just got all the things on my desktop00:44
Riddellahoneybun: voila00:44
ahoneybunagain I can't do anything00:45
manchickenI'm also installing Ubuntu Touch, gonna learn me some qml as well.00:45
Riddellahoneybun: I think I need to go to bed now, got a meeting in the morning00:46
* ahoneybun feels his head blowing up00:46
manchickenRiddell: Should I hard-code these repo paths?00:47
manchickenRiddell: I'm also wondering if we should just import the key for the debug symbol repo by default :)00:49
apacheloggermanchicken: hardcode is fine, but you'll need to replace the series (raring, saucy etc...)00:55
manchickenJontheEchidna: I'm looking to see if there's a way to figure out which source the package belongs to.00:55
manchickenapachelogger: I'm going to see if I can tie into LSB to get that.00:56
apacheloggermanchicken: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=about-distro.git&a=blob&h=e538125d861486ec37eab05fc9e8c97ea3bf8ee6&hb=86a3a96c70e6ae810e77615b3701da0886379e35&f=src%2FLSBRelease.cpp00:58
apacheloggerin case you need a class for that00:58
manchickenOoh. I'm googling to see if there's an existing API.01:00
apacheloggerthere isn't01:02
manchickenExcept the one you just gave me :)01:02
apacheloggerlsbrelease is not really specified anywhere IIRC01:02
apacheloggeryeah, I mean in the context of a library :P01:02
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manchicken_Ubuntu Touch is missing... almost everything.02:29
manchicken_I'm wondering if their timeline for early 2014 might be a bit to ambitious.02:29
ahoneybunmanchicken_: many things may not be on there just yet02:29
ahoneybunbut might not mean that they do not have them almost ready02:30
manchicken_ahoneybun: Most of the things aren't there yet.02:30
manchicken_ahoneybun: SMS client, clock settings (I couldn't figure out how to change the timezone from London).02:30
manchicken_You name it, you've got about a 70% chance it's not there.02:30
ahoneybunmanchicken_: I did not see anysettings really02:30
ahoneybunhell there thing only works really on GSM phones02:31
manchicken_They're buried in apps.02:32
manchicken_The gestures aren't terribly intuitive. I suspect they're going to have a demo mode at first, similar to what Android has, but it took a lot of futzing to find it.02:32
ahoneybunyea a bit odd02:33
manchicken_If you swipe left to center and then tap the Ubuntu logo, then swipe from the right to center, scroll down, you'll find settings.02:33
ahoneybuntbh I like the look of jolla02:33
manchicken_Yeah, but won't it only run on those lumia derivatives?02:33
ahoneybuni have no idea02:34
ahoneybunJust like it lol02:34
manchicken_It looks nice, and it is Qt.02:34
manchicken_I'm glad I am keeping my S3, it lets me play with things without so much worry :)02:38
ahoneybunwhat carrier?02:42
ahoneybunI have verzion02:50
manchicken_The whole CDMA/GSM nonsense is just that.03:15
manchicken_While there are technical trade-offs for both technologies, I can't help but feel like these devices are only partial to a specific technology to prevent people from switching.03:17
ahoneybunmanchicken_: way to make more money for everyone but the users03:20
manchicken_JontheEchidna: You have no idea (or maybe you do) how much easier your stuff made my life.03:36
manchicken_JontheEchidna: I have a patch for QApt, I added your dup check.03:57
manchicken_JontheEchidna: I'm going to push it to my github, it's pretty simple.03:58
manchicken_JontheEchidna: It's nothing spectacular, but it's a dup check: https://github.com/manchicken/libqapt/commit/f534f1b8eec83b44af261ccd88a5975c782630e904:05
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manchicken_Grumble... I can't get QApt to write the changes... weaksauce.05:01
manchicken_I think it's because it's using dbus to write the file, and I have no earthly idea how to actually use dbus.05:02
manchicken_Anybody know much about dbus?05:26
ScottKapachelogger knows.05:33
ScottKHe knows everything.05:34
manchicken_But is he here?05:35
manchicken_I know he could help, it's his code what's breaking :)05:35
ScottKHe's in +0100 or +0200 or so, so it's possible.05:44
soeegood morning06:08
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Mamarokhi everyone, could you guys have a look at bugs https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321972 and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32196808:46
ubottuKDE bug 321972 in general "Amarok closes unexpectedly when any additional window (about, track details, add media, edit queue, etc.) closes." [Crash,Unconfirmed]08:46
ubottuKDE bug 321968 in Context View "Amarok crashes at startup" [Grave,Unconfirmed]08:46
Mamarokthisd seems to be Ubuntu specific, libgdk doing something very weird there08:46
Mamaroklooks really serious08:55
smartboyhwdpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libamarokshared.so.1 needed by debian/amarok/usr/lib/libamaroklib.so.1.0.0 (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: '')09:11
smartboyhwNo RPATH!!?!?!?!09:11
yofelwe usually don't use an rpath in the archive I think09:12
yofelbut that's not the point of that error09:12
lordievaderGood morning.09:13
apachelogger"I actually had this problem with an update from 'raring-proposed', but I reverted the updates and removed that repo, it wouldn't be nice to remove 'raring-updates' though!"09:22
apacheloggerof for crying out loud09:22
yofel"A new version of Kubuntu is available" - wtf is up with that release upgrader09:23
apacheloggerJontheEchidna broke it again? :P09:23
yofeldunno, this is raring09:23
apacheloggeryofel: which updates have recently landed in raring-updates?09:23
yofelwhat's the issue even?09:23
Riddellit should only show if the meta file on changelogs.ubuntu.com has got a new version added09:24
yofelI did get an X update today09:24
apachelogger1 week ago09:24
yofelbut now I'm trying to downgrade mesa to see if it'll fix this: http://paste.kde.org/78966209:25
yofelso much for reliable drivers/mesa in ubuntu09:25
yofelbug 1178843 is also about kdevelop not working09:26
ubottubug 1178843 in kdevelop (Ubuntu) "kdevelop won't start" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117884309:26
yofelFWIW, kdevelop does run here09:26
apachelogger.4 landed on monday?09:28
apacheloggeror did it land in proposed09:29
apacheloggerthis is all very confusing09:29
yofelif you mean mesa, that's in proposed09:29
yofellet me try that actually09:29
apacheloggerI think the problem is envrionmental09:30
apacheloggerif it occured as early as May this is really weird09:31
yofeldon't ask me, I'm totally clueless what those X window errors even are09:31
yofelI only know something went wrong in X09:31
yofelthat intel/mesa crash is triggered by me trying to disable VSync09:36
yofelI do wonder why I can't use XRender though o.O09:37
yofelwait what09:40
smartboyhwyofel, RPATHs usually appear to me:P09:40
yofelI can disable VSync when using OpenGL 2.0 or 1.2, but with 3.1 it crashes09:40
RiddellFrom: Kubuntu Ninjas <noreply@launchpad.net>                                                                                                                 09:53
RiddellSubject: didrocks deactivated by didrocks                                                                                                                    09:53
Riddelldidrock's doesn't love us any more :(09:54
smartboyhwRiddell, heck.......:(09:58
smartboyhwRiddell, it makes sense though, isn't didrocks now at Unity dev?09:58
Riddellhe always has been09:58
Riddellhe just visited us briefly to compare how we work09:59
Riddellwhich got him a lot of respect in my book09:59
smartboyhwGreat, this is the first time I am able to debuild amarok successfully!09:59
smartboyhwAnd E: amarok: non-standard-toplevel-dir debian/09:59
yofelI think you somehow got the debian/foo folders into the binary package10:00
yofelwhich shouldn't happen10:00
smartboyhwyofel, ah that10:04
smartboyhwgot it10:04
smartboyhwyofel, there is an icons dir in there it seems10:04
smartboyhwWhich is included in the package10:04
smartboyhwyofel,  but that dir was included also in 2.7.110:06
soeeyofel, did you read my message yesterday ? i tested 4.10.5 10:09
soeeyou asked for it testers10:09
smartboyhwsoee, how's it?10:13
soeesmartboyhw, all fine10:13
smartboyhwsoee, GREAT10:13
smartboyhwHopefully, we can get 4.10.5 in raring-proposed soon10:13
* smartboyhw removes the 4.10.4 bits10:14
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smartboyhwAh, I get it.10:14
tsdgeosguys any reason l10n in sayucy is still 4.10.80 ?10:17
smartboyhwtsdgeos, :O10:18
Riddelltsdgeos: no reason except our own absentmindedness, I'll fix today, thanks for the poke10:19
Riddellunless smartboyhw is volunteering? :)10:19
smartboyhwRiddell, I'm doing amarok here.10:19
smartboyhwI can do it later but10:19
smartboyhwLet me finish this first10:19
Riddellit just needs lots of bandwidth, an ec2 might help10:19
smartboyhwRiddell, well ec2 then:P10:20
Riddellsmartboyhw: ubuntu@ec2-54-227-97-38.compute-1.amazonaws.com  has access to you now10:21
Riddellahoneybun and me were using it for partitionmanager10:21
smartboyhwRiddell, ok10:23
smartboyhwRiddell, eh wait, you will do the upload right?10:25
smartboyhwgood, I can't even branch it10:26
smartboyhwPermission denied (again010:31
* smartboyhw doesn't understand how come bzr needs ssh access for branching10:32
smartboyhwW: amarok source: unknown-field-in-dsc debian-vcs-browser10:44
smartboyhwLike, who did this?:P10:44
Riddellsmartboyhw: I can upload from the ec2 if you want10:50
smartboyhwRiddell, sure, but I can'tbranch10:50
Riddellsmartboyhw: what are you trying to do?10:52
yofelsoee: yes, thanks!10:53
yofelRiddell: btw. I saw you updated the language-pack branch for 4.10.80, and special reason for that? (As I usually don't touch it)10:55
Riddellyofel: I didn't check if it was needed I just thought it was a good idea to update it at the start of a new SC release, if there's changed languages10:56
yofeloh, good point10:56
smartboyhwRiddell, branch the kubuntu-automation branch?11:06
Riddell>rm -r .bazaar/11:11
Riddellsmartboyhw: try now, I removed by bazaar settings11:12
smartboyhwRiddell, what script is used? calligra-l10n-package?11:13
Riddellsmartboyhw: for SC?11:13
smartboyhwRiddell, yea11:14
Riddellsmartboyhw: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide11:14
smartboyhwRiddell, wah!11:15
smartboyhwLet me finish amarok first then, seems the l10n process is complicated.11:15
smartboyhwAnd also, what are the dependencies for a -dev package?11:16
* smartboyhw thinks he needs a -dev package for amarok11:16
* smartboyhw thinks he should rather copy from elsewhere11:18
Riddellthere's nothing that builds against amarok11:19
Riddellso don't package a -dev11:19
smartboyhwRiddell, eh.11:19
smartboyhwHmm, only copyright left to do.11:28
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smartboyhwyofel, how did you use grep to find about copyright info of each discrete file?11:28
BluesKajHiyas all11:30
apacheloggerRiddell: is panda postponed or abandoned?11:31
yofelsmartboyhw: somethin like: licensecheck -r * | grep "LGPL (v2 or later)" | cut -f 1 -d \: | xargs grep Copyright11:31
smartboyhwyofel, great11:31
smartboyhwWhat's the command to add info to patches?11:31
yofelfirst grep filters files by license, second one searches in those files11:31
yofelthere is one?11:31
smartboyhwyofel, I think so, I did use it before11:31
Riddellapachelogger: abandoned until I can work out how to get NAT working on this router11:32
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about quilt11:32
Riddellhmm, not NAT, port forwarding11:32
smartboyhw:O :O :O :O ;O11:32
smartboyhwRiddell, do you know?11:32
* yofel usually edits the patch by hand to add metadata at the top11:32
Riddellsmartboyhw: add info to patches?  emacs isn't it?11:32
apacheloggerMamarok: thanks for pointing it out, I doubt it has anything to do with amarok in particular though, seem to me like a combination of qt-gtk, oxygen-gtk and possibly other stuff causes xerrors that gdk considers fatal; that's just a random guess though, I have yet to manage to reproduce it and complete envrionment information is only available in some random launchpad bug :S11:33
apacheloggerput it on my todo though11:33
apacheloggeri.e. I do strongly believe this has limited impact11:34
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: are you going to be at akademy?11:47
smartboyhwHmm, amarok's debian/copyright looks not like the normal way:P12:18
smartboyhwNot really um, debian format.12:21
smartboyhwyofel, Riddell what should I do about these then?12:22
smartboyhwRewrite the ENTIRE thing? 12:23
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smartboyhwRiddell, the editor at your ec2, how do I save a file?14:11
manchickenJontheEchidna: You  up/14:24
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tsdgeossmartboyhw: use google ;.-)14:28
JontheEchidnamanchicken: mornin'14:32
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: sadly, no14:32
manchickenJontheEchidna: When I QApt::SourcesList->save(), it doesn't seem to save.14:35
manchickenI suspect it's a dbus authentication issue caused by my chroot setup.14:35
manchickenI'm not quite sure how to fix this.14:35
Riddellsmartboyhw: in emacs? control-x control-s14:36
Riddellsmartboyhw: there's no requirement to change copyright files to dep-5 just leave it14:36
Riddell"Jonathan Thomas (echidnaman) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members) team" yay JontheEchidna still loves us!14:36
JontheEchidnamanchicken: yeah, you'd need a policykit instance running inside the chroot14:37
manchickenhow do I get that running? I have never used dbus or policykit before.14:39
smartboyhwWb JontheEchidna :)14:39
smartboyhwRiddell, alright14:39
JontheEchidnamanchicken: I've not tried to get it running inside a chroot before, but I'd imagine you'd have to install polkit-kde-1 and run /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-114:40
smartboyhwbzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common/.bzr/branch/lock): Tr14:41
smartboyhwossible: http does not support mkdir() 14:41
smartboyhwWhat the hell is that?14:41
smartboyhwRiddell, now I can't push....14:42
Riddellsmartboyhw: because it's on an http checkout14:43
manchickenJontheEchidna: Something's still missing, it bombed.14:43
manchicken** (process:31381): CRITICAL **: polkit_agent_listener_register_with_options: assertion 'POLKIT_IS_SUBJECT (subject)' failed14:43
smartboyhwRiddell, :O14:43
smartboyhwWhat does that mean?14:43
Riddellsmartboyhw: to push you'd need an sftp checkout and your ssh keys14:43
smartboyhwUh god.14:43
smartboyhwAny good method to copy the ssh keys over?14:43
smartboyhwAnd to checkout using sftp?14:43
Riddellsmartboyhw: scp but make sure you kick me off the server first14:44
Riddellno need for a fresh checkout, just bzr push lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common14:44
JontheEchidnamanchicken: /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd will also need to be running as root if it's not already14:44
smartboyhwRiddell, how to kick again?14:46
smartboyhwI think someone should write an EC2 guide.14:48
Riddellsmartboyhw: kill me bash session14:48
smartboyhwRiddell, how?14:48
yofelwhy don't you just edit kde-10n-common locally, push, and then update on the ec2?14:48
smartboyhwyofel, yeah, might be better14:48
manchickenJontheEchidna: I got that running, and the installer is giving me fewer errors, but it's still not saving the file.14:52
manchickenI'm gonna debug the save.14:52
manchickenI think I found what dbus would be calling to save the file.14:53
smartboyhwyofel, Riddell Run debian/build-l10n.sh  it doesn't exist!14:54
Riddellubuntu@domU-12-31-39-06-E2-03:~/kde-l10n-common>ls debian/build-l10n.sh 14:54
Riddellsmartboyhw: yes it does14:54
smartboyhwRiddell, ah there14:54
* smartboyhw decides to be a fool by running the script LOCALLY:P14:56
yofelthat should still have worked, though it might've taken a while ^^14:57
smartboyhwIt's now downloading -de14:57
smartboyhwNot bad, average 450 kB/s14:57
Riddellhi ahoneybun, how did you get on?15:01
smartboyhwahoneybun, it basically means how are you doing15:03
smartboyhwRiddell, teach me some English customs plz.....15:03
smartboyhwHmm, now at -nl alreadyu15:04
Riddellsmartboyhw: you'd need to ask an English person15:04
Riddellahoneybun: how did you get on with the merge?15:04
smartboyhwRiddell, any English person here/15:04
ahoneybunRiddell: I left it where you had it..15:05
ahoneybunwas a bit lost still 15:05
ahoneybunbut thats ok15:05
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: I'm not too happy with Sony about my PS Vita15:07
smartboyhwahoneybun, lol15:08
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: I have to use a program from them to add conten15:09
smartboyhwRiddell, yofel if you want to review this possible piece of mess, https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/ppa/+files/amarok_2.7.90-0ubuntu1%7Eppa1.dsc15:16
yofelis that in bzr? 15:17
smartboyhwyofel, not yet, I want you guys to review before I put all these changes into bzr15:17
* yofel usually reviews from bzr15:17
smartboyhwI don't want to mess up bzr just yet.15:17
yofeljust make it UNRELEASED15:17
smartboyhwyofel, well here's a diff https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/ppa/+files/amarok_2%3A2.7.1-0ubuntu3_2%3A2.7.90-0ubuntu1%7Eppa1.diff.gz15:17
ahoneybundid anyone get vm's ext pack working to use ext usb 2.0?15:18
agateauxnox: ping15:21
agateauxnox: hi, last time we discussed ubiquity, I said I did not like how all frontends were defined in the same files.15:25
agateauxnox: I played a bit with this, and have come up with a way to define them in different files, I wonder if this is something you would be interested in15:25
xnoxagateau: make a merge proposal and/or email ubuntu-installer@ i'm not the only person on the team in charge of ubiquity.15:26
xnoxagateau: a change like that should have a quick discussion. but from my point of view should be ok.15:26
xnoxagateau: given that you will be happy to unwind / decouple existing ones =)15:27
agateauxnox: ok, I have only done the work for language so far, I wanted to get some feedback before I split them all15:27
xnoxagateau: i'm not at all sure how that will affect debconf-frontend as that is closely coupled with shared logic between gtk/kde frontends.15:27
xnoxagateau: sure, post that language bit as a merge proposal or a patch to ubuntu-installer, as a proof of concept.15:28
agateauxnox: ok, will do15:28
smartboyhwRiddell, hmm since I'm now running script locally how do I suppose to get you upload the packages?15:32
Riddellsmartboyhw: umm you can't if they're on your machine15:33
smartboyhwRiddell, damnit:P15:33
smartboyhwReally, no method at all?15:34
yofelnot without him having ssh access to your system15:35
yofel(that was the point of the ec2)15:35
yofelyou can ofc. sftp all packages to the ec215:35
yofelthough just re-running the script there would probably be faster15:36
smartboyhwEm, someone give me the ec2 link, I shut it down already...15:36
Riddellsmartboyhw: 15:40
smartboyhwRiddell, eh, can you turn it back on?15:41
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Riddellsmartboyhw: oh no if you killed it then it's dead15:42
smartboyhwRiddell, :O15:42
smartboyhwGive me another link then, I'll sftp the files15:42
Riddellstarting one up now15:42
manchickenArgh, qDebug messages aren't showing up now. Fun :)15:42
smartboyhwSigh, no upload access:(, I need to work harder15:46
smartboyhwAnd more accurate15:46
smartboyhw(the latter is the most important015:46
ScottKIt is.15:46
ScottKThat was a deeply ironic moment to miss the shift key.15:47
Riddellsmartboyhw: ubuntu@ec2-54-235-33-74.compute-1.amazonaws.com15:47
smartboyhwScottK, LOL15:47
smartboyhwRiddell, copying15:48
Riddellhum, I wonder what's wrong with these kdepim compiles I just put up https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=kdepim&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=15:52
Riddellboost not installing?15:52
Riddellug one I uploaded to saucy, that's not right15:52
yofelhm, that looks like kolabxml depending on unversioned boost which pulls in the wrong boost version15:54
yofel1.46 not 1.4815:54
yofel  * Add kubuntu_access_control.diff and kubuntu_no_crash_without_kolab.diff15:55
yofel    requested by kubuntu_no_crash_without_kolab.diff15:55
yofelc&p error? ^^15:55
Riddellmeh yes, should be Christian Mollekopf <mollekopf@kolabsys.c om>15:56
yofeland please at least testbuild before uploading to the backports :S15:57
jono_Riddell, ScottK I sent over an email with the call in details btw15:57
jono_I am about to bring up the bridge15:57
ScottKGot it.15:57
jono_in a min15:57
Riddelljono_: got in, calling in15:59
jono_ScottK, Riddell bridge is up16:00
smartboyhwOh good, the Kubuntu Mir Summit:P16:00
manchickenJontheEchidna: I don't think the dbus call is even making it through... I'm gonna have to troubleshoot this again later. What time are you usually on? It would be much easier to do this with you online :)16:01
jono_smartboyhw, lol, not quite :-)16:01
smartboyhwjono_, :-)16:01
smartboyhwHeck, running the script may be better. Riddell you run it, the things are up in bzr already16:03
smartboyhwI need to sleep16:04
smartboyhwRiddell, I will initialize the script maybe16:05
smartboyhwRiddell, and plz fix the /etc/apt/sources.list in the ec2 first (I will do it maybe)16:06
Riddellgo ahead16:07
manchickenSo kubuntu-debug-installer has code to add and save repos for debug symbols in there, but for some reason it isn't saving. I have a three hour drive ahead of me, so I'll get back onto this later.16:09
smartboyhwRiddell, plz go into the ec2 and bzr the two branches and run the script, I REALLY HAVE TO BE ASLEEP16:12
smartboyhwRiddell, meh?16:13
agateauxnox: posted here https://code.launchpad.net/~agateau/ubiquity/split-plugins/+merge/17324116:24
xnoxagateau: yeah, noticed. Should have requested the default reviewer.... ubuntu-installer team, instead of just me.16:25
xnoxagateau: requested from the team now.16:25
agateauoh ok, thanks16:25
Peace-Riddell: is there a way to install kubuntu without do the all isntallation process ? i mean something like "dd copy stuff"  into the drive 16:44
=== georgelappies_ is now known as georgelappies
RiddellPeace-: not for one install, you can use the oem installer to do that but that needs more than one hard disk etc16:58
RiddellPeace-: but a live cd install mostly is just copying everything to a hard disk then doing the setup needed to make it boot16:58
cmollekopfRiddell: ping17:16
Peace-Riddell: ok thank you i will try17:16
Riddellhi cmollekopf17:17
Riddellcmollekopf: just e-mailing17:17
Riddellcmollekopf: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+delete-packages?field.name_filter=kdepim&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=17:17
cmollekopfok, perfect17:17
Riddellcmollekopf: compiling away now, I'm aboue to go out so if it fails or something isn't fixed then ping anyone else here17:17
Riddelltyping !ninjas pings useful people :)17:18
cmollekopf=) excellent17:18
Riddellooh that's not a great link to give you, that's the delete packages page17:19
Riddellbetter: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=kdepim&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=precise17:19
Riddellninjas: cmollekopf needs kdepim-runtime_4.10.4-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu12.04~ppa4 and kdepim - 4:4.10.4-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu12.04~ppa3 built in kubuntu-ppa/backports, if it breaks please fix,it's for a nice kubuntu project17:29
* Riddell out17:29
* yofel goes fixing kdepim-runtime17:40
yofelk, only needs a retry17:44
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Mamarokfolks, this is getting increasingly serious, we now have people reporting problems on an hourly notice18:02
* yofel tries to reproduce that in a VM18:09
Mamarokwell, all people who have reported that up until now were using other things than just plain KDE18:17
Mamarokone guy was using "Gnome classic"18:17
yofelyeah, I saw a post from unity so I'm making an ubuntu vm too18:17
ahoneybunlordievader: I need some ideas for the Installation pages19:52
lordievaderahoneybun: Let me finish watching this movie and I'll think about it.19:53
ahoneybunlordievader: k19:53
yofelat least I can reliably reproduce that X error in a fresh installed Unity vm with kile20:06
yofeluh, why doesn't kile have any debugging symbols in raring @_@20:09
lordievaderahoneybun: What is it exactly that you are looking for?20:22
lordievaderahoneybun: In the disk setup the options for guided are those hypothetical? Also Guided can be used with more than onde disk ;)20:25
lordievaderahoneybun: That is where I'm looking right now ;)20:27
ahoneybunok 20:27
lordievaderahoneybun: The line about Side-by-side is kind of vague.20:27
ahoneybunoh can you improve it?20:27
lordievaderahoneybun: Do you remember how the option was called? Haven't installed Kubuntu where Windows was already present in a long time.20:28
ahoneybundual boot?20:28
yofelapachelogger: what am I looking for? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5847919/20:29
lordievaderahoneybun: Ubuntu calls the option "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7": http://askubuntu.com/questions/194457/installing-ubuntu-os-on-ssd-and-install-home-on-other-hdd20:29
lordievaderBut I don't remember how Kubuntu calls it.20:31
lordievaderHmm, oh well I'll boot a live-usb.20:32
yofelapachelogger: full bt http://paste.ubuntu.com/5847926/20:32
shadeslayer_got my visa for Akademy20:33
lordievaderHey shadeslayer_ 20:33
shadeslayer_so, yofel gets his wifi dongle back and apachelogger gets snuggles20:34
shadeslayer_anything interesting happen today?20:35
lordievaderahoneybun: Well thats a bummer, its called 'Guided - resize SCSI1(0,0,0), partition #2 (sda) and use freed space'. Nothing really fancy...20:37
ahoneybundual booting is the main word I believe20:37
yofelshadeslayer_: want to debug X BadWindow errors?20:37
lordievaderahoneybun: True but I was talking about how ubiquity calls it for the disk setup stage.20:38
yofelshadeslayer_: this is not funny if it makes be read xlib documentation -.-20:41
yofelapachelogger: btw. kubotu is down after today's freenode service mess20:41
* shadeslayer_ thought yofel was joking20:41
shadeslayer_and I'm too tired today -.-20:41
yofelI wish I were, but it seems like something's really broken with X + KDE apps + unity/gnome20:42
lordievaderahoneybun: Ok made a couple of changes, could you take a look.20:43
ahoneybunI don't see anything different20:53
lordievaderahoneybun: I added the resize bullet, and rewrote the part about dual-boot.20:55
ahoneybunI see the bullets20:55
lordievaderahoneybun: Edit the page, the commented line about dual-boot is the old stuff.20:56
ahoneybunbut the installer automatically resizes when it sees another OS20:57
lordievaderahoneybun: Only when you select that option...20:58
ahoneybunnot with 13.04 installer I think20:58
lordievaderahoneybun: Just booted the 13.04 installer. Got the choice of what I wanted to do.20:59
lordievaderahoneybun: Would be a regression if it simply skipped the step and selected resize.21:00
ahoneybunno it did not skip the step, it just would show what the resizing would do21:01
lordievaderahoneybun: True, it does.21:01
ahoneybunthats what I mean21:05
lordievaderahoneybun: Ah ok, so we are on the same line?21:05
lordievaderahoneybun: Ok, good :)21:06
yofelkile crash is lp 1195007 too btw.21:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1195007 in kile (Ubuntu) "kile crashes when click on "file new + save"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119500721:14

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