[00:00] has the same versions [00:00] ok [00:01] and dget on that page? [00:01] what do you mean merged the changelogs? [00:02] copy the link to the .dsc from http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/partitionmanager [00:02] and dget that [00:02] to merge changelogs I start with the debian package [00:02] dch -i to add a new entry with ubuntu1 on the end of the version number [00:02] where is the deb version? in current or in partitionmanager? [00:03] version of what? [00:03] current/ has the saucy package [00:03] debi/ has the debian package [00:03] and ~ has what I've been working on [00:04] that's just how I tend to organise things [00:04] 01:02 < Riddell> to merge changelogs I start with the debian package [00:04] 01:02 < Riddell> dch -i to add a new entry with ubuntu1 on the end of the version number [00:04] then I copy the ubuntu changelog and paste it into the working one at the place where they diverged [00:04] and delete the old debian one below that [00:04] so [00:04] cd debi [00:05] and dch -i to add new entry like we did in digikam [00:05] I keep debi untouched [00:05] and copy it into a working directory [00:05] to work in [00:06] then dch -i to add new entry [00:06] oh copy the debi into the ubuntu changelog? [00:06] copy the debi/ package into another directory to do your work in [00:06] and in that package run dch -i then merge in the ubuntu changelog [00:07] I'm not getting the merge concept, is that copying the debian changelog to the ubuntu's one? [00:08] I start with the package from debian [00:08] and copy the ubuntu changelog into that where they diverged [00:09] ok I'm in the debi one [00:09] ahoneybun: let me show you [00:09] so copy the most recent changes into the debi [00:11] maybe I should just stick with the Docs [00:11] ahoneybun: so they diverged at 1.0.2-1 [00:12] so I copyied the ubuntu changelog and pasted it in above 1.0.2-1 [00:12] let me see [00:12] (this is how I do merged changelogs, there's other ways to do it) [00:12] I don't know emac [00:13] get out of there please so I can see the ubuntu changelog [00:14] all yours [00:14] thanks [00:14] I don't think you can open more than one file in nano so I don't know how to take stuff from one file and paste it into another [00:14] klipply? [00:15] klipper [00:15] it's too big for that [00:15] I see he 1.0.2-1 [00:15] the [00:16] So I would copy the things above that mark to the debi changelog? [00:16] yeah so that's the most recent debian entry in the ubuntu changelog so you can tell that's where it diverged [00:18] so you copied the debi dir into the merge dir? [00:18] yes [00:18] ok [00:18] I start with the debian package [00:18] small steps for me [00:18] then merge in any changes we want in ubuntu [00:20] how so? copy the ubuntu dir into there too? [00:20] no by looking at what's different and working out what we want to keep [00:20] so reading the changelog entries since the last debian merge [00:21] oh ok [00:21] and doing a diff on the debian dirs to see what's different [00:21] this is the step in coping the ubu changelog to the deb one [00:23] thinking now nano is so simple [00:25] you could use kate [00:25] that is... oh yea [00:25] open sftp://ubuntu@ec2-54-227-97-38.compute-1.amazonaws.com/home/ubuntu/foo [00:25] but should learn emacs I guess [00:25] well that's a few evenings in itself [00:26] i see [00:26] I see [00:26] how do I get out of emacs lol [00:27] control-x control-c [00:27] 2? [00:28] yea I can't do that [00:28] stupid nano [00:29] soooo much easier on my system with a GUI lol [00:29] JontheEchidna: Yo, do you have the ability to add keys in this Alpha as well? [00:30] Riddell: seems you already did the work... [00:31] JontheEchidna: That looks like the only apt functionality that I'd be missing. [00:31] yo manchicken, did you get anywhere with docs on server script? [00:32] Riddell: There's a dump program for this. [00:32] What's the name of the Wiki again? [00:33] I can't remember. [00:33] moin? [00:33] yeah [00:34] moindump [00:34] http://moinmo.in/MoinDump [00:35] manchicken: I'm clueless on how to use it [00:36] I don't if I need to download something or what [00:36] ahoneybun: That wiki page I just put up has a usage example. [00:36] I think it dumps the whole thing at once. [00:36] * ahoneybun is still lost but that is ok [00:40] manchicken: nope. I'd like to have the functionality, but I've not found the time to do it [00:42] JontheEchidna: Either I need to find an API for that, or I need to escape to the shell. [00:42] Fun. [00:43] Riddell: use diff in which debian dir? [00:43] ahoneybun: between the working one and the ubuntu one [00:44] k [00:44] diff -urN debian ../current/partition-1.3/debian [00:44] or similar [00:44] I just got all the things on my desktop [00:44] ahoneybun: voila [00:45] again I can't do anything [00:45] I'm also installing Ubuntu Touch, gonna learn me some qml as well. [00:46] ahoneybun: I think I need to go to bed now, got a meeting in the morning [00:46] ok [00:46] * ahoneybun feels his head blowing up [00:47] Riddell: Should I hard-code these repo paths? [00:49] Riddell: I'm also wondering if we should just import the key for the debug symbol repo by default :) [00:55] manchicken: hardcode is fine, but you'll need to replace the series (raring, saucy etc...) [00:55] JontheEchidna: I'm looking to see if there's a way to figure out which source the package belongs to. [00:56] apachelogger: I'm going to see if I can tie into LSB to get that. [00:58] manchicken: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=about-distro.git&a=blob&h=e538125d861486ec37eab05fc9e8c97ea3bf8ee6&hb=86a3a96c70e6ae810e77615b3701da0886379e35&f=src%2FLSBRelease.cpp [00:58] in case you need a class for that [01:00] Ooh. I'm googling to see if there's an existing API. [01:02] there isn't [01:02] Except the one you just gave me :) [01:02] lsbrelease is not really specified anywhere IIRC [01:02] yeah, I mean in the context of a library :P === mkv is now known as m4v [02:28] Yay [02:29] Ubuntu Touch is missing... almost everything. [02:29] I'm wondering if their timeline for early 2014 might be a bit to ambitious. [02:29] manchicken_: many things may not be on there just yet [02:30] but might not mean that they do not have them almost ready [02:30] ahoneybun: Most of the things aren't there yet. [02:30] oh [02:30] ahoneybun: SMS client, clock settings (I couldn't figure out how to change the timezone from London). [02:30] You name it, you've got about a 70% chance it's not there. [02:30] manchicken_: I did not see anysettings really [02:31] hell there thing only works really on GSM phones [02:32] They're buried in apps. [02:32] ? [02:32] The gestures aren't terribly intuitive. I suspect they're going to have a demo mode at first, similar to what Android has, but it took a lot of futzing to find it. [02:33] yea a bit odd [02:33] If you swipe left to center and then tap the Ubuntu logo, then swipe from the right to center, scroll down, you'll find settings. [02:33] tbh I like the look of jolla [02:33] Yeah, but won't it only run on those lumia derivatives? [02:34] i have no idea [02:34] Just like it lol [02:34] It looks nice, and it is Qt. [02:38] I'm glad I am keeping my S3, it lets me play with things without so much worry :) [02:42] what carrier? [02:44] At&t [02:44] oh [02:49] ? [02:50] I have verzion [03:15] Gotcha. [03:15] The whole CDMA/GSM nonsense is just that. [03:17] While there are technical trade-offs for both technologies, I can't help but feel like these devices are only partial to a specific technology to prevent people from switching. [03:20] manchicken_: way to make more money for everyone but the users [03:36] JontheEchidna: You have no idea (or maybe you do) how much easier your stuff made my life. [03:57] JontheEchidna: I have a patch for QApt, I added your dup check. [03:58] JontheEchidna: I'm going to push it to my github, it's pretty simple. [04:05] JontheEchidna: It's nothing spectacular, but it's a dup check: https://github.com/manchicken/libqapt/commit/f534f1b8eec83b44af261ccd88a5975c782630e9 === claydoh_ is now known as Guest84122 === ferai is now known as Guest82317 === Tm_T is now known as Guest51964 [05:01] Grumble... I can't get QApt to write the changes... weaksauce. [05:02] I think it's because it's using dbus to write the file, and I have no earthly idea how to actually use dbus. [05:26] Anybody know much about dbus? [05:33] apachelogger knows. [05:34] He knows everything. [05:35] But is he here? [05:35] I know he could help, it's his code what's breaking :) [05:44] He's in +0100 or +0200 or so, so it's possible. [06:08] good morning [06:08] Hiya === popey_ is now known as popey === who_da_fly is now known as superfly === gaurav_ is now known as Guest3548 === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson [08:46] hi everyone, could you guys have a look at bugs https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321972 and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321968 [08:46] KDE bug 321972 in general "Amarok closes unexpectedly when any additional window (about, track details, add media, edit queue, etc.) closes." [Crash,Unconfirmed] [08:46] KDE bug 321968 in Context View "Amarok crashes at startup" [Grave,Unconfirmed] [08:46] thisd seems to be Ubuntu specific, libgdk doing something very weird there [08:55] looks really serious [09:11] dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libamarokshared.so.1 needed by debian/amarok/usr/lib/libamaroklib.so.1.0.0 (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: '') [09:11] No RPATH!!?!?!?! [09:12] we usually don't use an rpath in the archive I think [09:12] but that's not the point of that error [09:13] Good morning. [09:22] "I actually had this problem with an update from 'raring-proposed', but I reverted the updates and removed that repo, it wouldn't be nice to remove 'raring-updates' though!" [09:22] of for crying out loud [09:23] "A new version of Kubuntu is available" - wtf is up with that release upgrader [09:23] JontheEchidna broke it again? :P [09:23] dunno, this is raring [09:23] yofel: which updates have recently landed in raring-updates? [09:23] what's the issue even? [09:23] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2157427 [09:24] it should only show if the meta file on changelogs.ubuntu.com has got a new version added [09:24] I did get an X update today [09:24] well [09:24] 1 week ago [09:25] but now I'm trying to downgrade mesa to see if it'll fix this: http://paste.kde.org/789662 [09:25] so much for reliable drivers/mesa in ubuntu [09:26] bug 1178843 is also about kdevelop not working [09:26] bug 1178843 in kdevelop (Ubuntu) "kdevelop won't start" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1178843 [09:26] FWIW, kdevelop does run here [09:28] .4 landed on monday? [09:29] or did it land in proposed [09:29] this is all very confusing [09:29] if you mean mesa, that's in proposed [09:29] let me try that actually [09:30] 2013-05-11 [09:30] Oo [09:30] I think the problem is envrionmental [09:31] if it occured as early as May this is really weird [09:31] don't ask me, I'm totally clueless what those X window errors even are [09:31] I only know something went wrong in X [09:31] hm [09:32] gtk... [09:35] fuuuun [09:36] that intel/mesa crash is triggered by me trying to disable VSync [09:37] I do wonder why I can't use XRender though o.O [09:40] wait what [09:40] yofel, RPATHs usually appear to me:P [09:40] I can disable VSync when using OpenGL 2.0 or 1.2, but with 3.1 it crashes [09:53] From: Kubuntu Ninjas [09:53] Subject: didrocks deactivated by didrocks [09:54] didrock's doesn't love us any more :( [09:58] Riddell, heck.......:( [09:58] Riddell, it makes sense though, isn't didrocks now at Unity dev? [09:58] he always has been [09:59] he just visited us briefly to compare how we work [09:59] which got him a lot of respect in my book [09:59] Great, this is the first time I am able to debuild amarok successfully! [09:59] And E: amarok: non-standard-toplevel-dir debian/ [09:59] !?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? [10:00] I think you somehow got the debian/foo folders into the binary package [10:00] which shouldn't happen [10:04] yofel, ah that [10:04] got it [10:04] yofel, there is an icons dir in there it seems [10:04] Which is included in the package [10:06] yofel, but that dir was included also in 2.7.1 [10:06] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/amarok/saucy/view/head:/debian/amarok.install [10:09] yofel, did you read my message yesterday ? i tested 4.10.5 [10:09] you asked for it testers [10:13] soee, how's it? [10:13] smartboyhw, all fine [10:13] soee, GREAT [10:13] Hopefully, we can get 4.10.5 in raring-proposed soon [10:14] * smartboyhw removes the 4.10.4 bits === smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.10.90 saucy/archive, raring/beta, quantal/staging WIP | 4.10.5 raring/ppa, quantal/ninjas WIP, precise/ninjas WIP | 13.10 Alpha 1 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj [10:14] Ah, I get it. [10:17] guys any reason l10n in sayucy is still 4.10.80 ? [10:18] tsdgeos, :O [10:19] tsdgeos: no reason except our own absentmindedness, I'll fix today, thanks for the poke [10:19] Meh...;P [10:19] unless smartboyhw is volunteering? :) [10:19] Riddell, I'm doing amarok here. [10:19] I can do it later but [10:19] Let me finish this first [10:19] it just needs lots of bandwidth, an ec2 might help [10:20] Riddell, well ec2 then:P [10:21] smartboyhw: ubuntu@ec2-54-227-97-38.compute-1.amazonaws.com has access to you now [10:21] ahoneybun and me were using it for partitionmanager [10:23] Riddell, ok [10:25] Riddell, eh wait, you will do the upload right? [10:26] good, I can't even branch it [10:31] Permission denied (again0 [10:32] * smartboyhw doesn't understand how come bzr needs ssh access for branching [10:44] W: amarok source: unknown-field-in-dsc debian-vcs-browser [10:44] Like, who did this?:P [10:50] smartboyhw: I can upload from the ec2 if you want [10:50] Riddell, sure, but I can'tbranch [10:52] smartboyhw: what are you trying to do? [10:53] soee: yes, thanks! [10:55] Riddell: btw. I saw you updated the language-pack branch for 4.10.80, and special reason for that? (As I usually don't touch it) [10:56] s/and/any/ [10:56] yofel: I didn't check if it was needed I just thought it was a good idea to update it at the start of a new SC release, if there's changed languages [10:56] oh, good point [11:06] Riddell, branch the kubuntu-automation branch? [11:11] >rm -r .bazaar/ [11:12] smartboyhw: try now, I removed by bazaar settings [11:13] Riddell, what script is used? calligra-l10n-package? [11:13] smartboyhw: for SC? [11:14] Riddell, yea [11:14] smartboyhw: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide [11:15] Riddell, wah! [11:15] Let me finish amarok first then, seems the l10n process is complicated. [11:16] And also, what are the dependencies for a -dev package? [11:16] * smartboyhw thinks he needs a -dev package for amarok [11:18] * smartboyhw thinks he should rather copy from elsewhere [11:19] there's nothing that builds against amarok [11:19] so don't package a -dev [11:19] Riddell, eh. [11:28] Hmm, only copyright left to do. === slacker_1l is now known as slacker_nl [11:28] yofel, how did you use grep to find about copyright info of each discrete file? [11:30] Hiyas all [11:31] Riddell: is panda postponed or abandoned? [11:31] smartboyhw: somethin like: licensecheck -r * | grep "LGPL (v2 or later)" | cut -f 1 -d \: | xargs grep Copyright [11:31] yofel, great [11:31] What's the command to add info to patches? [11:31] first grep filters files by license, second one searches in those files [11:31] there is one? [11:31] yofel, I think so, I did use it before [11:32] apachelogger: abandoned until I can work out how to get NAT working on this router [11:32] !quilt [11:32] Sorry, I don't know anything about quilt [11:32] hmm, not NAT, port forwarding [11:32] :O :O :O :O ;O [11:32] Riddell, do you know? [11:32] * yofel usually edits the patch by hand to add metadata at the top [11:32] smartboyhw: add info to patches? emacs isn't it? [11:33] Mamarok: thanks for pointing it out, I doubt it has anything to do with amarok in particular though, seem to me like a combination of qt-gtk, oxygen-gtk and possibly other stuff causes xerrors that gdk considers fatal; that's just a random guess though, I have yet to manage to reproduce it and complete envrionment information is only available in some random launchpad bug :S [11:33] put it on my todo though [11:34] i.e. I do strongly believe this has limited impact [11:47] JontheEchidna: are you going to be at akademy? [12:18] Hmm, amarok's debian/copyright looks not like the normal way:P [12:21] Not really um, debian format. [12:22] yofel, Riddell what should I do about these then? [12:23] Rewrite the ENTIRE thing? === Guest5458 is now known as Mamarok === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube === Guest51964 is now known as Tm_T [14:11] Riddell, the editor at your ec2, how do I save a file? [14:24] JontheEchidna: You up/ === inetpro_ is now known as inetpro [14:28] smartboyhw: use google ;.-) [14:32] manchicken: mornin' [14:32] apachelogger: sadly, no [14:35] JontheEchidna: When I QApt::SourcesList->save(), it doesn't seem to save. [14:35] I suspect it's a dbus authentication issue caused by my chroot setup. [14:35] I'm not quite sure how to fix this. [14:36] smartboyhw: in emacs? control-x control-s [14:36] smartboyhw: there's no requirement to change copyright files to dep-5 just leave it [14:36] "Jonathan Thomas (echidnaman) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members) team" yay JontheEchidna still loves us! [14:37] :) [14:37] manchicken: yeah, you'd need a policykit instance running inside the chroot [14:39] how do I get that running? I have never used dbus or policykit before. [14:39] Wb JontheEchidna :) [14:39] Riddell, alright [14:40] manchicken: I've not tried to get it running inside a chroot before, but I'd imagine you'd have to install polkit-kde-1 and run /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1 [14:41] bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common/.bzr/branch/lock): Tr [14:41] ossible: http does not support mkdir() [14:41] What the hell is that? [14:42] Riddell, now I can't push.... [14:43] smartboyhw: because it's on an http checkout [14:43] JontheEchidna: Something's still missing, it bombed. [14:43] ** (process:31381): CRITICAL **: polkit_agent_listener_register_with_options: assertion 'POLKIT_IS_SUBJECT (subject)' failed [14:43] Riddell, :O [14:43] What does that mean? [14:43] smartboyhw: to push you'd need an sftp checkout and your ssh keys [14:43] Uh god. [14:43] Any good method to copy the ssh keys over? [14:43] And to checkout using sftp? [14:44] smartboyhw: scp but make sure you kick me off the server first [14:44] no need for a fresh checkout, just bzr push lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common [14:44] manchicken: /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd will also need to be running as root if it's not already [14:46] Riddell, how to kick again? [14:48] I think someone should write an EC2 guide. [14:48] smartboyhw: kill me bash session [14:48] Riddell, how? [14:48] why don't you just edit kde-10n-common locally, push, and then update on the ec2? [14:48] yofel, yeah, might be better [14:51] Pushed [14:52] JontheEchidna: I got that running, and the installer is giving me fewer errors, but it's still not saving the file. [14:52] I'm gonna debug the save. [14:53] I think I found what dbus would be calling to save the file. [14:54] yofel, Riddell Run debian/build-l10n.sh it doesn't exist! [14:54] ubuntu@domU-12-31-39-06-E2-03:~/kde-l10n-common>ls debian/build-l10n.sh [14:54] smartboyhw: yes it does [14:54] Riddell, ah there [14:55] ^^ [14:56] * smartboyhw decides to be a fool by running the script LOCALLY:P [14:56] Yes! [14:57] that should still have worked, though it might've taken a while ^^ [14:57] It's now downloading -de [14:57] Not bad, average 450 kB/s [15:01] hi ahoneybun, how did you get on? [15:02] ? [15:02] what? [15:03] LOL [15:03] ahoneybun, it basically means how are you doing [15:03] Riddell, teach me some English customs plz..... [15:03] lol [15:04] Hmm, now at -nl alreadyu [15:04] smartboyhw: you'd need to ask an English person [15:04] ahoneybun: how did you get on with the merge? [15:04] Riddell, any English person here/ [15:04] LOL [15:05] Riddell: I left it where you had it.. [15:05] LOL [15:05] was a bit lost still [15:05] but thats ok [15:07] smartboyhw: I'm not too happy with Sony about my PS Vita [15:08] ahoneybun, lol [15:09] smartboyhw: I have to use a program from them to add conten [15:09] t [15:16] Riddell, yofel if you want to review this possible piece of mess, https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/ppa/+files/amarok_2.7.90-0ubuntu1%7Eppa1.dsc [15:17] is that in bzr? [15:17] yofel, not yet, I want you guys to review before I put all these changes into bzr [15:17] * yofel usually reviews from bzr [15:17] I don't want to mess up bzr just yet. [15:17] just make it UNRELEASED [15:17] yofel, well here's a diff https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/ppa/+files/amarok_2%3A2.7.1-0ubuntu3_2%3A2.7.90-0ubuntu1%7Eppa1.diff.gz [15:18] did anyone get vm's ext pack working to use ext usb 2.0? [15:21] xnox: ping [15:22] hola [15:25] xnox: hi, last time we discussed ubiquity, I said I did not like how all frontends were defined in the same files. [15:25] xnox: I played a bit with this, and have come up with a way to define them in different files, I wonder if this is something you would be interested in [15:26] agateau: make a merge proposal and/or email ubuntu-installer@ i'm not the only person on the team in charge of ubiquity. [15:26] agateau: a change like that should have a quick discussion. but from my point of view should be ok. [15:27] agateau: given that you will be happy to unwind / decouple existing ones =) [15:27] xnox: ok, I have only done the work for language so far, I wanted to get some feedback before I split them all [15:27] agateau: i'm not at all sure how that will affect debconf-frontend as that is closely coupled with shared logic between gtk/kde frontends. [15:28] agateau: sure, post that language bit as a merge proposal or a patch to ubuntu-installer, as a proof of concept. [15:28] xnox: ok, will do [15:32] Riddell, hmm since I'm now running script locally how do I suppose to get you upload the packages? [15:33] smartboyhw: umm you can't if they're on your machine [15:33] Riddell, damnit:P [15:34] Really, no method at all? [15:35] not without him having ssh access to your system [15:35] (that was the point of the ec2) [15:35] ................ [15:35] you can ofc. sftp all packages to the ec2 [15:36] though just re-running the script there would probably be faster [15:36] Em, someone give me the ec2 link, I shut it down already... [15:40]