[01:38] <goddard> is it normal for a dist upgrade message to pop up and ask for a password but then do nothing
[01:38] <goddard> or at least not visually show anything
[01:38] <goddard> how am i suppose to know if it is running?
[01:43] <goddard> anyone know?
[01:54] <ahoneybun> goddard: what version are you on?
[09:13] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:19] <miroslav_> hi all
[10:22] <lordievader> Hey miroslav_
[10:43] <Costeelation> hi to all
[10:44] <Costeelation> how can i have animated wallpaper in kubuntu 12.04?
[10:44] <lordievader> Hey Costeelation
[10:44] <Costeelation> hey bro :)
[10:47] <Costeelation> lordievader: you know how have animated wallpapers?
[10:48] <Costeelation> i was trying to install dreamdesktop but i cant, i try reporting a bug to the creators
[10:49] <lordievader> Costeelation: There is a package somewhere with a couple of animated wallpaper, but I forgot what package it was. Let me look it up.
[10:49] <Costeelation> thank youu
[10:51] <lordievader> Costeelation: I thought it was plasma-wallpapers-addons.
[10:52] <Costeelation> ok i am installing it :D
[10:52] <Costeelation> and other thing, you remember the name of the the java plugin for firefox?
[10:52] <lordievader> Costeelation: I have a feeling it is not really what you are looking for though.
[10:53] <lordievader> Costeelation: Phew no, sorry.
[10:55] <Costeelation> oh well i remeber it, icedtea7-plugin :D
[11:30] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:36] <zorael> Isn't there a tool in the repos to conveniently tweak package dependencies? Concretely I want to remove akonadi-server's hard dependency of akonadi-backend-mysql.
[12:46] <gotwig> hello
[12:46] <gotwig> I love you guys
[12:46] <gotwig> Kubuntu 13.10 is awesome :>
[13:28] <Kenjiro> let me try another thing...
[13:29] <Kenjiro> nope, that didn't work too :(
[13:29] <Kenjiro> I tried adding my user to the groups pulse and audio
[13:31] <Kenjiro> BluesKaj: the headset is a USB device
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Kenjiro, it's not the heqadset it's the soundcard the headset connects to
[13:40] <Kenjiro> BluesKaj: it is a USB headset, so it is its own soundcard, right?
[13:41] <Kenjiro> it doesn't use the onboard soundcard, for example
[13:41] <Kenjiro> if I use "aplay -l" it shows me:
[13:41] <Kenjiro> card 1: LX3000 [Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
[13:41] <Kenjiro> card 0 is the onboard Intel, etc
[13:52] <gotwig> can you help
[13:52] <gotwig> qmake: could not find a Qt installation of ''
[13:55] <gotwig> Project ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: quick qml
[13:59] <rumpl> cheers,
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Kenjiro, sudo gstreamer-properties, a GUI will open. After configuring, a reboot may be in order
[13:59] <rumpl> I have a noob question, maybe someone is keen to answer it ..
[14:00] <BluesKaj> this will give a gui to configure your headset
[14:00] <BluesKaj> Kenjiro,^
[14:00] <e8hffff> rumpl:  jsut say your question and see if people reply
[14:01] <gotwig> Project ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: quick qml , which packages do I need?
[14:02] <rumpl> I installed Kubuntu yesterday and today there are some updates, now the updater ask for a autorisation password, but the Pass entered during install does not work for this requirement
[14:02] <rumpl> any work around ?
[14:03] <gotwig> rumpl: did it contain strange charachters?
[14:03] <e8hffff> rumpl:  you should have a user password that should somewaht be able to defien the root password wwhich is needed for updates.  you can do updates manually in command line terminal
[14:03] <rumpl> no
[14:03] <gotwig> rumpl: so, do you want to reset the password?
[14:04] <e8hffff> rumpl: to assign the password to the root, you type: sudo passwd root
[14:04] <rumpl> if possible, yes
[14:04] <gotwig> rumpl: of course its possible =)
[14:04] <gotwig> rumpl: boot into recovery mode, and do what e8hffff said ;X
[14:04] <BluesKaj> gotwig, perhaps you should stick with your questions in kde , crossposting is frowned upon
[14:05] <e8hffff> rumpl: your user password should work for prompted graphical password entries though
[14:05] <gotwig> BluesKaj: keep k00l..
[14:05] <BluesKaj> !crosspost | gotwig
[14:06] <rumpl> sudo... etc ask only for a pass and its a dead circle.... so I try to boot in secure mode
[14:10] <gotwig> how can I get qtquick 2.0 in ubuntu
[14:11] <gotwig> do I have to use PPA?
[14:11] <e8hffff> gotwig: have you looked into the ubuntu sdk? since they are planning on using qtq2
[14:12] <Kenjiro> BluesKaj: let me try that. Sorry for the delay. Was checking some problems on 3 servers :(
[14:13] <gotwig> e8hffff: ubuntu-sdk is already in multiverse/universe
[14:13] <gotwig> what is the easiest way to get all the dependencies of a qmake project
[14:14] <Kenjiro> I am installing gstreamer-tools
[14:14] <Kenjiro> hmmm gstreamer-properties is not there. :(
[14:16] <BluesKaj> Kenjiro, run, sudo gstreamer-properties in the terminal
[14:18] <Kenjiro> BluesKaj: it says the command is not found
[14:19] <Kenjiro> sudo: gstreamer-properties: command not found
[14:19] <rumpl> so... didnt work; password unchaned due to authentification tocken error
[14:19] <Kenjiro> so I am trying to find which package must be installed to have it :(
[14:19] <rumpl> cant even log into my own wifi due to KDE wallet
[14:20] <BluesKaj> no : after sudo
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Kenjiro, ^
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Kenjiro, bummer , does lsusb show the headset ?
[14:23] <Kenjiro> sure thing
[14:23] <Kenjiro> Bus 007 Device 003: ID 045e:070f Microsoft Corp.
[14:23] <Kenjiro> as I said, it works on dragonplayer
[14:23] <Kenjiro> but doesn't work on any browser, or mplayer, or vlc
[14:24] <BluesKaj> ok would you like to make it the default ?
[14:24] <Kenjiro> and I typed "sudo gstreamer-properties", the command is not found
[14:24] <Kenjiro> BluesKaj: that's the idea, having it as default
[14:24] <Kenjiro> I even set that on the multimedia section of system settings (KDE)
[14:25] <BluesKaj> Kenjiro, yes , the gstreamer-prorperties is no longera valid command , unfortunately
[14:25] <Kenjiro> I believe that's why it is working for dragonplayer, which relies on KDE
[14:25] <Kenjiro> BluesKaj: ok ;)
[14:25] <Kenjiro> I can live with that *grin*
[14:26] <BluesKaj> it would be great to find what the kernel module driver name is for the headset, snd.nameof_driver
[14:26] <rumpl> any other idea how to fix ?
[14:29] <BluesKaj> Kenjiro, could you pastebin the output of cat /proc/asound/modules
[14:30] <Kenjiro> hold on
[14:30] <Kenjiro> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.ca/2418349
[14:31] <Kenjiro> and just in case, I updated that with the output of "aplay -l"
[14:32] <Kenjiro> woops, the URL changed ;)
[14:32] <Kenjiro> http://pastebin.ca/2418351 <-- this one
[14:35] <BluesKaj> Kenjiro, ok sudo modprobe snd_usb_audio , then add this line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf,  options snd_usb_audio index=0 , then below that, options snd_hda_intel index=1 , save the file and reboot
[14:36] <BluesKaj> this should solididfy the default sound setup on your pc
[14:36] <BluesKaj> err solidify, Kenjiro
[14:37] <Kenjiro> let me try it, hold on
[14:39] <georgelappies> hi all, thanks for everybody involved in getting 4.10.5 to us :)
[14:40] <Kenjiro> let's reboot and see what happens ;)
[14:40] <Kenjiro> BluesKaj: thanks for now. BRB
[14:46] <Kenjiro> BluesKaj: hi again
[14:46] <Kenjiro> ok, now I typed "aplay -l" and the headset is the default "sound card"
[14:47] <BluesKaj> ok , i shoulkd have mentioned to setup the headset in sytem settings>multimedia>phonon >device prefrence , Kenjiro
[14:48] <BluesKaj> and the outputs in the phonon device hardware tab as well
[14:50] <BluesKaj> ok , Kenjiro I have some things to do for an hr or so ...hope it all works now , if not install pavucontrol , it usually helps as well , it's the pulseaudio GUI
[14:53] <Kenjiro> BluesKaj: thanks for now.
[14:54] <Kenjiro> BluesKaj: I had already set audio stuff on phonon (system settings). There it is working
[14:55] <Kenjiro> on mplayer or vlc... no way :(
[14:55] <Kenjiro> let me try on a browser
[14:56] <Kenjiro> BluesKaj: yep, not working there too :(
[15:05] <Kenjiro> don't know if any codecs could be missing :(
[15:05] <gotwig> any idea how to install qt quick 2.0 in ubuntu
[15:06] <Kenjiro> BluesKaj: in fact... I tried playing an mp3 file with mplayer and it complained about missing mpg123 codec
[15:09] <ahoneybun> Kenjiro: did you check a box about installing third party things during the installation>
[15:22] <DexterF> hi
[15:23] <DexterF> 32bit 12.04 LTS, machine is upgraded to 8GB RAM, so I need either -pae or go 64 bit. the latter would be nice of course, question is: any easy way to do it or need a full reinst?
[15:27] <tsimpson> DexterF: if you want to move from 32 to 64bit, you need a reinstall. for -pae you can just install linux-generic-pae and linux-headers-generic-pae
[15:28] <DexterF> tsimpson: -pae viable or has it tripwires?
[15:29] <tsimpson> as long as your CPU supports PAE (grep -i pae /proc/cpuinfo), it just works
[15:33] <tsimpson> DexterF: the fact that all kernels from 12.10 onwards are PAE enabled should give you some assurance that it "just works" (TM)
[15:35] <lorddelta> gotwig: #ubuntu? this is #kubuntu?
[15:36] <lorddelta> Anyways I think your question is better served by #qt, qtquick isn't a special package AFAIK
[15:37] <tsimpson> qtquick 2 is part of Qt 5
[15:40] <tsimpson> gotwig: http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/ tells you how to get Qt 5 as well as the Ubuntu SDK (if you want it)
[15:45] <DexterF> tsimpson: that makes my day a lot easier, tis a 12.04 lts tho :) ill just add that -pae kernel
[15:57] <gotwig> tsimpson: thanks
[15:57] <gotwig> tsimpson: it worked for me, I had to install the qt5 declarative
[15:58] <gotwig> tsimpson: now, I have other problems. I cant play any video file
[16:04] <geri> hi i cant run any update from any mirror using sudo apt-get update....but i can ping them
[16:04] <geri> any ideas?
[16:06] <geri> it just stops here: 0% [Connecting to mirrors.mit.edu (18.7.29.125)] [Connecting to extras.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.33)]
[16:29] <Kenjiro> ahoneybun: I did that
[16:30] <ahoneybun> Kenjiro: so your missing mpg123
[16:31] <Kenjiro> I did a "dpkkg -l *mpg*", the result was
[16:31] <Kenjiro> ii  mpg123                               1.14.4-1                amd64                   MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player
[16:31] <Kenjiro> ii  libmpg123-0:amd64                    1.14.4-1                amd64                   MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio decoder (shared library)
[16:33] <Kenjiro> ahoneybun: any hints?
[16:34] <ahoneybun> Kenjiro: sudo apt-get install libmpg123
[16:35] <Kenjiro> that package doesn't exist on 13.04 repositories
[16:35] <Kenjiro> but I tried installing libmpg123-0, which is already here ;)
[16:36] <ahoneybun> install the mpg123 package then
[16:36] <Kenjiro> it is installed already
[16:36] <ahoneybun> oh
[16:36] <Kenjiro> ;)
[16:36] <Kenjiro> so weird
[16:36] <ahoneybun> weird
[16:37] <ahoneybun> Kenjiro: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:38] <Kenjiro> installing...
[16:40] <Kenjiro> on a second look... mplayer says it was compiled WITHOUT mpg123
[16:40] <Kenjiro> so it tries to use ffmpeg
[16:41] <Kenjiro> well... thanks ahoneybun and BluesKaj
[16:41] <ahoneybun> Kenjiro: nothing?
[16:42] <Kenjiro> for now I will have to stop testing it, because now I am accessing the computer remotely, so I won't be able to tell if the sound did work on that headset *LOL*
[16:42] <ahoneybun> oh lol
[16:42] <Kenjiro> I'll check that on monday ;)
[16:42] <ahoneybun> ok
[16:44] <Kenjiro> really thanks for your time and attention ahoneybun and BluesKaj
[16:44] <ahoneybun> Kenjiro: np
[16:46] <Kenjiro> I was really at a loss, because on my old slackware installation the USB headset worked like a charm.
[16:46] <Kenjiro> So I believed that on Kubuntu it would work as easily
[16:47] <Kenjiro> at least on kubuntu I could install lightworks without problems *LOL*
[16:48] <Trel> I installed aurorae and then uninstalled it.  However, now the get new themes, it's not working. Rather than list themes, it's just showing "configuration file not found: 'aurorae.knsrc'"
[16:49] <n0yd> Could someone do me a favor and pastebin their ~/.bashrc? I made a mistake and rm'd it :(
[16:50] <n0yd> Preferably the stock one, but if it has added bits that fine
[16:50] <Trel> n0yd: http://pastebin.ca/2418398
[16:51] <n0yd> Trel: awesome thank you
[16:51] <n0yd> Trel: how familiar are you with bash?
[16:52] <n0yd> I have a script I want to run for a motd (for local session and ssh) but I am not sure how to go about doing it.
[16:52] <Trel> Not very.  I just have a week old install in which I haven't touched the file
[16:52] <n0yd> heh ok
[16:53] <Trel> For what I asked, how can I get KDE's GHNS to point to the default search locaiton?
[16:53] <n0yd> im not familiar with that term (ghns)
[16:54] <n0yd> I am pretty experience with Linux in general, but I actually just started using KDE a few weeks ago, first time since KDE 3.x
[16:54] <Trel> n0yd: it's what loads when you click the "get new decorations" button.
[16:54] <Trel> Something I installed over wrote the location it went to, and now that it's gone, broke it
[16:54] <n0yd> oh, get hot new stuff?
[16:55] <Trel> yes
[16:55] <n0yd> Ya I have no idea. I havent even changed the look of my install yet, besides changing the way the window borders are displayed a little bit
[16:55] <n0yd> Basically moving the titles to the center in grey, and the rest blue
[16:56] <Trel> Yeah, I was just looking through theme options and aurorae broke GHNS lol
[16:56] <n0yd> Im just happy with how much more stable KDE seems to be compared to Gnome3, gnome3 you have to add so much to it via extensions and such that it ends up being unstable imho
[16:57] <n0yd> I havent had one KDE related crash in the past 3 weeks.  That would never happen if I was still on gnome
[16:58] <n0yd> Trel: I was trying to add something like this, http://fuzzyslogicblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/06/ubuntu-dynamic-motd/
[16:58] <n0yd> But local, not just remote ssh
[17:00] <lorddelta> I have a bunch of old (decrepit) menu entries in my Kickoff launcher. What is the best way to go about cleaning these up?
[17:00] <n0yd> in the applications menu?
[17:01] <n0yd> lorddelta: can you do what you want by right clicking the kickoff menu, and going to "edit appl,ications"?
[17:01] <n0yd> it should
[17:02] <n0yd> I can edit everything in the menu via that
[17:04] <n0yd> Trel: dang, part of that bashrc screwed me up
[17:04] <Trel> That should be default, what happened?
[17:04] <n0yd> Cause I had a modifcation for bash completion for apt-fast
[17:04] <n0yd> its alright
[17:04] <n0yd> I can just reinstall apt-fast and it should fix it
[17:04] <n0yd> I had this issue before
[17:04] <n0yd> btw, apt-fast is awesome. Should be a must for all apt-get distros
[17:05] <n0yd> It downloads soooo much faster with it. And its a complete wrapper for apt-get
[17:07] <lorddelta> n0yd: hmm thanks. Is there any automated way of doing it?
[17:07] <lorddelta> I guess if there isn't it isn't hard to write the script to do so
[17:07] <n0yd> Not that I am aware of. Old entries from programs you uninstall via the package manager should be removed automatically
[17:07] <n0yd> What exactly are you doing
[17:07] <n0yd> or trying to do
[17:08] <n0yd> holy cow, I got 205 upgrades just since yesterday
[17:08] <lorddelta> Well e.g. I have 4 versions of firefox which pop up, when I search it applications, some are very old, invalid entries, e.g. aurora and minefiled
[17:08] <n0yd> Gotta love having lots of ppas...
[17:09] <lorddelta> minefield*
[17:09] <n0yd> Oh, that would be cause aurora is a different package than firefox
[17:09] <n0yd> But ok
[17:09] <lorddelta> but that package isn't installed anymore :P
[17:09] <gotwig> so no one got an idea how to get this running? https://github.com/nezticle/cutetime  I expirience issues with opening any video files
[17:09] <n0yd> it should have removed itself
[17:09] <gotwig> even ogg does not work
[17:09] <n0yd> Did you install it via apt?
[17:09] <gotwig> I compiled it sucesfully, no errors
[17:09] <BluesKaj> apt-get autoremove and autoclean are you friends
[17:09] <lorddelta> n0yd: should have and did are two different things
[17:09] <n0yd> Or did you just download the package and extract it?
[17:09] <lorddelta> n0yd; I can't remember, there is junk on here since 2010
[17:09] <BluesKaj> you = your
[17:10] <n0yd> if you didnt install it (aurora for instance) via a ppa
[17:10] <n0yd> its not gonna remove it
[17:10] <lorddelta> *shrug* FF is one of those packages that sometimes provides their own ppa, and things get shifted around so stuff gets screwed up
[17:10] <lorddelta> Over time
[17:10] <BluesKaj> packagename for ppa apps
[17:10] <lorddelta> I'm not blaming anyone
[17:11] <lorddelta> BluesKaj: I appreciate the tip, I already use both of those. Invaluable indeed.
[17:11] <n0yd> If you installed it via apt, it should automatrically remove the menu entry. If you just grabbed a tarball (precompiled or not) and installed it, well then its not gonna automatically remove it
[17:12] <lorddelta> n0yd: I don't remember what I did. I may well have manually modified the system to include aurora. But that was a long time ago.
[17:12] <n0yd> Well regardless, now you know how to edit the menu :)
[17:12] <lorddelta> Regardless an autoclean script would be a nice addition
[17:12] <lorddelta> for menus
[17:13] <n0yd> Are you good with bash?
[17:13] <n0yd> What would be the best way to get a motd to display on local logins? (not just ssh)
[17:14] <lorddelta> n0yd: yeah I'm ok with bash. And btw, good luck with your updates. 203 updates all at once is bound to break/fix some stuff.
[17:14] <n0yd> nah
[17:14] <n0yd> I have big updates all the time, nothing should break
[17:15] <n0yd> KDE is quite rock solid on my machine. Now if it was gnome3/shell, I would be worried
[17:15] <lorddelta> I prefer perl/python when it comes to actual scripting though, bash's strength is one-liners, not so much programming
[17:15] <n0yd> Cause gnome3 requires so many custom extensions and such just to make the damn thing usable
[17:15] <lorddelta> O.o
[17:16] <lorddelta> Why are you in kubuntu then? XD
[17:17] <BluesKaj> lorddelta, he just said he 's on kde
[17:17] <lorddelta> oh wait I thought you said you were running GNOME3, ignore me
[17:17] <lorddelta> didn't read everything
[17:18]  * lorddelta is lacking coffee
[17:20] <n0yd> well, all the updates finished quite quick;ly
[17:20] <n0yd> Gotta love apt-fast, downloads take no time at all, because it automatically maxes my connection speed
[17:21] <n0yd> Which is about 2.5MB/s
[17:22] <n0yd> seriously, for people that haven't ever used it. check it out: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/speed-up-apt-get-downloads-with-apt.html
[17:22] <n0yd> Its a great addition to anmy debian based system
[17:22] <n0yd> And there arent any downsides to it
[17:23] <lorddelta> n0yd: how often is it maintained?
[17:23] <n0yd> its current
[17:23] <n0yd> you can look at the git
[17:23] <n0yd> Its been around for at least 5 years that I know of
[17:23] <BluesKaj> beware of apt-fast if you have mirror problems
[17:23] <n0yd> mirror problems?
[17:23] <BluesKaj> it mucked up my system
[17:24] <n0yd> how?
[17:24] <n0yd> that makes no sense, at all
[17:24] <n0yd> sounds like user error (which is like 99 percent of all problems)
[17:24] <lorddelta> I think he means issues with things not being on the right server
[17:24] <lorddelta> n0yd: developers/package maintainers are users too
[17:24] <n0yd> that makes no sense
[17:24] <BluesKaj> n0yd, maybe not to you but ti happened to me
[17:24] <n0yd> right server?
[17:25] <n0yd> BluesKaj: you cant even explain what happened or what caused it
[17:25] <BluesKaj> sources, mirrors servers
[17:25] <n0yd> Which leads me to believe it had nothing to do with apt-fast
[17:25] <lorddelta> Yeah, reducing the load of a repo by spreading it to mirrors.
[17:25] <n0yd> apt-fast is simply just a wrapper to apt-get
[17:25] <lorddelta> Bit more than a wrapper
[17:25] <lorddelta> by the looks of it
[17:26] <n0yd> It just uses whatever mirror you already have set by apt-get
[17:26] <n0yd> And it adds pipelining basicallyt
[17:26] <n0yd> So you can have concurrent connections downloading the same file. So it acts as a download accelerator
[17:26] <gotwig> wow
[17:26] <gotwig> I finally got it running! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew114XH7-xc&feature=player_embedded
[17:26] <n0yd> So if you had mirror problems with apt-fast, you would have had those same issues on apt-get
[17:27] <BluesKaj> my archive mirror went down for some reason , apt-fast broke my system by installing some wrong packages durong an upgrade iirc , it is a while ago now
[17:27] <n0yd> Hell, it calls apyt-get for everything after it downloads the files anyway
[17:27] <n0yd> BluesKaj: thats not apt-fasts fault
[17:27] <n0yd> Sounds like you were using an out of sync mirror because your main mirror went down
[17:27] <n0yd> Apt-get wouldve done the same thing. Hell it did. Apt-get is what installs the packages
[17:27] <BluesKaj> n0yd, and why not
[17:27] <lorddelta> n0yd: that's what BluesKaj said
[17:28] <n0yd> sigh... nvm
[17:28] <BluesKaj> apt fast fetrches it thgo
[17:28] <n0yd> Apt-fast uses apt-get to install the packages.
[17:28] <BluesKaj> install but not fetch
[17:28] <n0yd> BluesKaj: its not apt-fasts fault the mirror was out of sync
[17:28] <n0yd> Its doesnt have inteligence
[17:28] <lorddelta> Iunno
[17:28] <n0yd> Apt-get wouldve fetched the SAME thing
[17:29] <n0yd> So, as I said from the start, user error
[17:29] <n0yd> PEBKAC
[17:29] <lorddelta> There's a routine get_mirrors in here, looks like it grabs all the mirrors by default; I could see that causing problems? I'm not an apt-get expert though
[17:29] <n0yd> lorddelta: that makes no sense
[17:29] <lorddelta> how
[17:29] <BluesKaj> well put it this way , apt-get never caused me that problem on the same mirror
[17:29] <n0yd> BluesKaj: lol
[17:29] <n0yd> BluesKaj: mirrorsz get out of sync
[17:29] <n0yd> shit happens
[17:30] <lorddelta> It also is using sed and egrep liberally
[17:30] <n0yd> Thats swhy you choose a good solid stable mirror
[17:30] <n0yd> lorddelta: and?
[17:30] <n0yd> your point?
[17:30] <n0yd> lol
[17:30] <lorddelta> I trust those problems but unless there are test cases, its quite easy to make a mistake
[17:30] <n0yd> You are talking about something you have no idea about, but whatevefr
[17:30] <lorddelta> s/programs/problems/
[17:30] <BluesKaj> sometimes struff that makes no sense happens ...saame as shit happens ..that's my point
[17:30] <lorddelta> n0yd: and you aren't giving us time to reply
[17:30] <lorddelta> n0yd: @ss
[17:30] <n0yd> lmao
[17:31] <n0yd> BluesKaj: computers dont compensate for user error
[17:31] <lorddelta> 'n0yd: lmao' <-- @ss
[17:31] <lorddelta> 'n0yd: your point?' <-- @ss
[17:31] <n0yd> lorddelta: am I supposed to be offended?
[17:32] <lorddelta> No, but you're supposed to attempt civility and discussion
[17:32] <n0yd> At least don't use l33tsp34k
[17:32] <lorddelta> *facepalm*
[17:32] <lorddelta> idiot
[17:32]  * lorddelta ignores n0yd
[17:32] <n0yd> lorddelta: I did. Until you guys started spewing crap about something you have no idea about, especially since you have never used it
[17:32] <n0yd> lorddelta: ignore me all you want. No loss
[17:33] <BluesKaj> n0yd, no matter what ou think , it happened ..just because you say so doesn't make it so .
[17:33]  * n0yd loves the tough guys behind keyboards
[17:33] <n0yd> BluesKaj: I never say it didnt happened
[17:33] <lorddelta> The core idea of apt-fast is neat, but it doesn't look well tested, its a hack on top of aria2 and apt-get at best
[17:33] <n0yd> All I said is that the reasoning you have behind WHY it happened, it absolutely wrong
[17:33] <lorddelta> If BluesKaj has had problems, I wouldn't trust it
[17:33] <n0yd> lorddelta: it doesnt just use aria2
[17:33] <n0yd> And its far from a hackjob
[17:33] <n0yd> But keep spewing bullshit claims
[17:34] <n0yd> Hell, you didnt even know azbout the application til 5min ago. And now somehow you are a master at it?
[17:35] <n0yd> Anyways, use what you want. Im was just making a suggestion to people about a good applicatoion that I find incredibly useful
[17:35] <n0yd> Other distros have similar features built into their package managers, and its a shame apt doesnt have it by default
[17:35] <n0yd> Pacman has it, and even fedora can have something similar
[17:37] <BluesKaj> n0yd, one last comment , it happened to me there's no denying it , you can say what you want but apt-fast needs to be used carefully , and attention to your sources is the key
[17:37] <n0yd> apt-get remove ksplice
[17:37] <n0yd> crap
[17:37] <lorddelta> lol he's still rambling on about that? xD
[17:38] <n0yd> BluesKaj: dude, can you not read?
[17:38] <n0yd> I never said it didnt happen!
[17:38] <n0yd> I just said your reasoning for why IT DID HAPPEN, is absolutely wrong
[17:39] <n0yd> And its quite apparent you don't even have a understanding of the lower level happenings in the system to make a diagnosis in the first place.
[17:39] <tsimpson> let's drop the "discussion" now
[17:39] <BluesKaj> fine, you obviously think you're some kind of expert ...bu you just wait ..be warned that's all I have to say ...dude
[17:39] <n0yd> BluesKaj: Far from it
[17:39] <n0yd> Hence why I caqme here and asked questions
[17:40] <n0yd> Ive been using apt-fast since 2011, no problems
[17:40] <n0yd> Well, no problems caused by it rather. Have I had problems? sure
[17:40] <tsimpson> last time I asked, now I'm telling. drop it
[17:40] <tsimpson> or continue it elsewhere
[17:40] <n0yd> tsimpson: we are havinjg a conversation calm down
[17:40] <n0yd> tsimpson: you wanna kickban me, go right ahead
[17:41] <n0yd> Its IRC, I really could care less
[17:41] <BluesKaj> some conversation :)
[17:41] <n0yd> BluesKaj: indeed
[17:41] <tsimpson> n0yd: no I don't want to, I just want the channel to be on topic
[17:41] <utusan> what is apt-fast?
[17:41] <BluesKaj> !apt-fast
[17:41] <n0yd> utusan: a wrapper for apt-get that allows you to use a download manager (aria or axel) to download the packages must faster
[17:42] <BluesKaj> !info apt-fast
[17:42] <n0yd> duh
[17:42] <n0yd> its availablre in ppa
[17:42] <n0yd> utusan: I linked to it above. Would you like to me repaste the link?
[17:42] <n0yd> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/speed-up-apt-get-downloads-with-apt.html
[17:42] <utusan> aptitude download is ok with me
[17:43] <n0yd> utusan: it depends on the speed of your connection, and what mirror you use and location and such
[17:43] <n0yd> utusan: Normally I get like 900-1200KB/s from the best mirror chosen from the mirror tester
[17:44] <n0yd> But with apt-fast, it always maxes my connection. Because I have it set to 8 connections
[17:44] <utusan> exactly, how much faster it gets to download x-amounts of bytes?
[17:44] <n0yd> So it uses 8 connections to the server to download each package. And I get the max speed available on my connection, which is about 2.5MB/s
[17:45] <n0yd> Its like using usenet to download things, it does the same thing. It uses concurrent connections to download the same file, and maxes out your connection
[17:46] <utusan> it's like trying to squeeze 8 cars in a 1-lane road?
[17:46] <lorddelta> No mods in here?
[17:46] <n0yd> not quite lol
[17:46] <BluesKaj> apt-get maxes my connection , but i'm fairly close to the archive
[17:46] <n0yd> I cant get any of the servers to give me a steady 2.5MB/s down with only one connection
[17:46] <lorddelta> There quite a few people in here, it may be time to setup a mod or two...
[17:46] <n0yd> If I do 2-3 connections it will though
[17:47] <n0yd> lorddelta: what are you complaining about? we are talking. No arguing, nothing
[17:47] <n0yd> And its entirely ontopic
[17:48] <n0yd> utusan: `I have it set to 8 connections (default is 5) which is overkill, but it doesnt hurt. And I want to make sure my pipe is always fully saturated when downloading updates and such
[17:48] <n0yd> It just downloads all the packages using aria or axel (download managers) then calls apt-get and apt takes over
[17:49] <utusan> am sure speed will be just an eigth of what you get for 1
[17:49] <n0yd> apt-get sees that the files are already downloaded, so it skips that part
[17:49] <n0yd> utusan: what do you mean?
[17:49] <lorddelta> (utusan: don't feed the troll, he's been yammering on for 10 minutes now apparently)
[17:50] <n0yd> tsimpson: is there a reason this guy is continuing?
[17:50] <tsimpson> lorddelta: don't bait either
[17:50] <n0yd> Does he not realize I am doing nothing wrong?
[17:50] <n0yd> tsimpson: bait? I am not trolling
[17:50] <n0yd> I am explaining to someone my setup
[17:50] <lorddelta> tsimpson: sorry, I'm lazy and my irc client doesn't have an easy PM option
[17:50] <tsimpson> n0yd: I didn't direct that at you
[17:51] <n0yd> tsimpson: well it certainly seemed that way
[17:51] <tsimpson> n0yd: the fact that I started the message with lorddelta: didn't give you a hint?
[17:51] <n0yd> As it was a reply to his "dont feed the troll" which was directed at me.
[17:52] <tsimpson> lorddelta: if you don't want to participate the the discussion the best thing to do is just don't. eventually everyone will move on
[17:52] <lorddelta> *nodnod*
[17:52] <n0yd> tsimpson: All I am saying is I am not trolling, at all. I was helping to explain how apt-fast works to utusan.  Its not my problem the guy has me on ignore so he cannot see that
[17:52] <tsimpson> n0yd: if I though you were just trolling I'd have done something about it
[17:52] <n0yd> Exactly
[17:53] <tsimpson> this channels is usually such a nice place for everyone, more relaxed than the one starting with #u, and I'd like to keep it that way ;)
[17:53] <n0yd> I just feel that instead of you saying "dont bait either", maybe you shouldve said "He isn't trolling, hes just helping to explain something to someone else, you cannot see this because you have him ignore"
[17:54] <n0yd> tsimpson: hence why I am here rather than #ubuntu
[17:54] <n0yd> I actually started some more technical #ubuntu related channels a few weeks ago. And we had a bunch of users in them. But I got caught up with work and kinda abandoned the idea
[17:54] <tsimpson> I don't know if they have you on ignore or not, and it's not relevant to me either way. they understood what I meant and that's what's important
[17:55] <n0yd> tsimpson: he said he did
[17:55] <tsimpson> I can say I have infinite monies, doesn't make it so
[17:55] <BluesKaj> guess my statement about beware of apt-fast caused this flame , but my esxperince with was good at first , but not so good after a few months
[17:55] <tsimpson> let's not get bogged down in a meta discussion about another discussion though
[17:56] <n0yd> tsimpson: it was clear by the way he was acting he had me on ignore. But whatever, I am done. I need to reboot to switch back to my custom kernel
[17:56] <n0yd> I was messing with ksplice
[17:56] <n0yd> It allows you to fully upgrade kernels without rebooting
[17:57] <n0yd> But since it only supports completely stock ubuntu kernels, I dont wanna use it. It doesnt even support the low latency kernel. And using liquorix/zen kernel adds a bit of performance for desktop usage
[17:59] <n0yd> tsimpson: is there a meta package for the ubuntu kernels and their pieces? (headers, etc)
[18:00] <n0yd> Just curious as it would be easier to remove that way. Cause I have the stock kernel and the lowlatency kernel installed plus all the headers and such. And I want to remove them both (no reason having them cluttering my grub and such)
[18:00] <tsimpson> there are quite a few
[18:00] <utusan> n0yd: linux-image-generic and *headers*
[18:00] <n0yd> eh that doesnt remove it
[18:01] <n0yd> linux-image-generic only removed that package
[18:01] <n0yd> I was hoping it would pull the rest.
[18:01] <tsimpson> you can use apt-get autoremove
[18:01] <tsimpson> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta <- shows the meta packages
[18:01] <n0yd> ya, its not marked though for some reason
[18:01] <n0yd> Maybe causde I had installed them manually one by one
[18:02] <n0yd> (I had already removed the stock kernel and bits)
[18:02] <n0yd> I just reinstalled them to test ksplice
[18:02] <n0yd> apt-get --purge remove linux-image-3.8.0-26-* worked for some of it
[18:03] <tsimpson> I haven't found a good automatic way of doing kernel manage yet, scripts are the best I've come up with
[18:03] <n0yd> Anyone else use liquorix kernels? I was always curious what the dmz in the name means
[18:03] <tsimpson> *management
[18:04] <Unit193> n0yd: \o
[18:04] <n0yd> Unit193: ?
[18:04] <Unit193> n0yd: damentz is the guy that makes the.
[18:04] <n0yd> ya i know
[18:04] <n0yd> I am in his channel on oftc
[18:04] <n0yd> It was just a random question
[18:05] <n0yd> Not a biggie
[18:05] <n0yd> 3.9-6.dmz.2-liquorix-amd64 <--- see the "dmz"
[18:05] <n0yd> demilitarized zone? :P
[18:06] <Unit193> (dmz as far as I can tell is a shot version of damentz.)
[18:06] <n0yd> oh ya, good point
[18:06] <n0yd> Never thought of that
[18:06] <n0yd> Im sure that is what it is :)
[18:06] <n0yd> Unit193: cheers
[18:06] <Unit193> n0yd: Sure.
[18:07] <n0yd> root: please don't IRC as root
[18:07] <n0yd> Close IRC and open it as a regular user
[18:07] <n0yd> Guest4136: ^^^^
[18:08] <n0yd> lol
[18:08]  * BluesKaj thinks guests should be banned
[18:08] <n0yd> BluesKaj: why?
[18:09] <n0yd> Its just a mechanism of nickserv
[18:09] <BluesKaj> piota to typ the guest nick when ther e15 of 'em in a chan
[18:09] <n0yd> If someone logs onto IRC using a nick that is registered and has the nick protection flag on, it will rename them Guest automatically if they dont identify to nickserv in 30 seconds
[18:10]  * BluesKaj lookds for his glasses
[18:10] <n0yd> BluesKaj: they arent meant to be used as real nicks really
[18:10] <BluesKaj> n0yd,ok , nm
[18:10] <n0yd> Its just the way nickserv works basically if the nick has nick protection flag set :)
[18:11] <n0yd> It happens to me if I login under my nick and forget to set my client up to autoidentify.  Though I normally use SASL now, which identifies for me
[18:12] <BluesKaj> time for some lunch ..bbl
[18:12] <n0yd> ya I gotta reboot real quick. bbiab
[18:19] <n0yd> anyone running kernel 3.10 yet? Im excited to try it because of some new additions for SSD's
[18:19] <n0yd> Lots of changes in 3.10 :)
[18:21] <ahoneybun> n0yd: just got on 3.8 something
[18:21] <ahoneybun> 3.8.0-26
[18:22] <n0yd> oh, the stock kernel? Yeah, raring stock is 3.8.0-26
[18:22] <ahoneybun> yep
[18:22] <ahoneybun> never go off from stock
[18:22] <n0yd> Im using the liquorix kernel. Better performance for desktop use
[18:22] <ahoneybun> on my desktop anyway lol
[18:22] <BluesKaj> on 3.10.0-2-generic  here , on 13.10 suacy
[18:22] <n0yd> The ubuntu kernel is more geared towards servers
[18:22] <BluesKaj> err saucy  :)
[18:22] <n0yd> BluesKaj: no issues?
[18:22] <n0yd> With the kernel that is
[18:23] <ahoneybun> I was going to ask that
[18:23] <n0yd> :P
[18:23] <ahoneybun> n0yd: I'm happy with performance just not with gaming with steam
[18:24] <BluesKaj> a gtk apps like vuze is useless , it's crashy as hell
[18:24] <n0yd> Oh. Well liquorix could help a bit with gaming. The latency and other things can help
[18:24] <n0yd> But if you GPU isnt very good, there is only so much you can do
[18:25] <n0yd> The disk scheduler and I/O scheduler in liquorix are tuned more towards desktop and gaming usage, whereaxs the default kernel is really setup more server usage
[18:27] <n0yd> weird, why would kopete depend on skype...
[18:27] <BluesKaj> yeah , I'm on an older machine , 2008 vintage , but it's just a basic media server setup , no databases , just an attached outboard drive that contains the media fiiles
[18:27] <n0yd> I am installing a newer version of kopete from a ppa, and it brings in skype.  Maybe it needs it to support skype chat
[18:27] <ahoneybun> n0yd: I could play L4D2 with 50-60 FPS with WIndows but not at all really with Linux
[18:27] <n0yd> This machine isnt very new either
[18:28] <n0yd> ahoneybun: there could be a few reasons for that
[18:28] <ahoneybun> well I'm not on a non-free driver for one thing
[18:28] <n0yd> One being that the linux port just doesnt perform very well in general (it should, and everything I read said it should perform equally or better on linux)
[18:28] <n0yd> That would do it
[18:29] <ahoneybun> none of the drivers work right
[18:29] <Torch> n0yd: maybe because the only way to support skype's protocol is to dlopen a closed sourced binary blob lib that comes with skype.
[18:29] <n0yd> the free drivers for nvidia and ATI really have crappy performance compared to the non-free ones
[18:29] <kubscout> Hi, I installed kubuntu 13.04 to a usb drive but didn't specify where to install the boot loader, so that went on to my hard drive.  I have booted up to the new installation on the usb drive now and am running kubuntu from that.  How do I get the boot loader to the usb drive to make it stand alone?
[18:29] <n0yd> Torch: thatys what i am thinking
[18:29] <n0yd> ahoneybun: another clould be that maybe your card just doesnt handle openGL very well. But I doubt that
[18:29] <ahoneybun> idk
[18:30] <ahoneybun> not a good reason to jump to Windows again
[18:30] <n0yd> I always found if I had a game that support directx and opengl, the opengl usually ran faster
[18:30] <n0yd> ahoneybun: whats the issue with the driver?
[18:30] <n0yd> I could try to help
[18:30] <ahoneybun> n0yd: I install it and then it says unsupported hardware
[18:30] <ahoneybun> in the bottom right
[18:30] <n0yd> hmm, what card?
[18:30] <n0yd> And this is using the non-free driver?
[18:31] <ahoneybun> si
[18:31] <ahoneybun> yea
[18:31] <ahoneybun> um
[18:31] <BluesKaj> n0yd, nonfree nvidia drivers are you referring to , n0yd?
[18:31] <n0yd> BluesKaj: im not referring to any drivers
[18:31] <n0yd> Im asking him what drivers he is using
[18:31] <ahoneybun> radeon hd 6450
[18:31] <n0yd> Im on intel open source drivers
[18:32] <n0yd> ahoneybun: that should be supported by the fglrx driver
[18:32] <jarope> evening all
[18:32] <ahoneybun> n0yd: tells me about the ati fire gl
[18:32] <n0yd> what do you mean
[18:33] <ahoneybun> n0yd: weird says the driver is activated but no in use
[18:33] <BluesKaj> n0yd, my refernce was to this post , <n0yd> the free drivers for nvidia and ATI really have crappy performance compared to the non-free ones
[18:33] <n0yd> ahoneybun: you would need to reboot
[18:33] <ahoneybun> I have when I did a kernel update
[18:33] <ahoneybun> brb then
[18:34] <n0yd> BluesKaj: what about it? All the benchmarks show that the nouveau and radeon open source drivers aren't as fast as their non-free counterparts
[18:34] <n0yd> the performance for some cards can be quite good. Just not as fast as the non-free ones just yet. But they are getting there :)
[18:35] <jarope> wonder if someone could shed some light on something for me.  I have 13.04 installed with nvidia drivers and intel drivers on a optimus laptop.  now this afternoon I installed a game which would not play complaining about the display.  So I thougth I would try something!  Installed ubuntu on a USB booted live session installed game without any nvidia or intel extras etc and the game works no problems.  I dont think the Kubuntu is recognising the in
[18:35] <BluesKaj> ok , but I found the nouveau driver works well ..barely any diff on this pc , altho i do have a a 8400gs pci card installed
[18:35] <n0yd> Personally, I can't wait. Cause if we have truly open source drivers for stuff like GPU's especially, it will make getting things like Mir and Wayland running a lot easier
[18:36] <BluesKaj> it's not real fancy ,but it does the job for serving up decent video to the tv/monitor
[18:36] <n0yd> BluesKaj: ya not exactly top of the line. But even if you just ran gl gears test on the nouveau, then run it on nvidia drivers, you would see the framerate a lot higher
[18:37] <n0yd> But you wouldnt notice the difference in real world most likely
[18:37] <ahoneybun> n0yd: still not in use
[18:37] <n0yd> thats quite odd
[18:37] <BluesKaj> well n0yd I'm on the 319 driver and the differnce is difficult to see vs the nouveau
[18:38] <n0yd> ahoneybun: so the fglrx-updates package is installed?
[18:38] <ahoneybun> I'm just getting the other driver it gives me
[18:38] <ahoneybun> idk
[18:38] <n0yd> I dont use the GUI things for installing stuff
[18:38] <n0yd> I always use the console
[18:39] <ahoneybun> yes
[18:39] <n0yd> You could always uninstall the ones that come from the ubuntu repos
[18:39] <n0yd> And grab the fglrx package from ati
[18:39] <n0yd> err amd
[18:39] <n0yd> Its stupidly easy to setup
[18:39] <n0yd> If you want me to help you, let me know
[18:40] <ahoneybun> remove the fglrx package?
[18:40] <n0yd> if you wanna try the ones from amds site, yes
[18:41] <n0yd> remove any/all fglrx packages
[18:41] <n0yd> ahoneybun: is this an actual graphics card, or a APU?
[18:41] <n0yd> ie. CPU+GPU combined
[18:41] <n0yd> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[18:41] <ahoneybun> I know I have a APU but I have a card
[18:41] <ahoneybun> as well
[18:42] <ahoneybun> the radeon hd6450
[18:42] <n0yd> that could be an issue...
[18:42] <n0yd> is the apu disabled or something?
[18:42] <jarope> ok so installed mesa-utils and ran glxinfo
[18:42] <ahoneybun> no the video cables are on the card
[18:43] <jarope> seems kubuntu doesnt know the intel chip has opengl support but ubuntu does
[18:43] <jarope> any suggestions how I get kubuntu to do the same? ? ?
[18:43] <jarope> seems odd
[18:43] <n0yd> ahoneybun: so you use both cards?
[18:43] <n0yd> Im confused by your setup
[18:43] <BluesKaj> jarope, have you tried bumblebee?
[18:44] <n0yd> jarope: my intel gfx works fine. What model?
[18:44] <jarope> BluesKaj: yes on kubuntu to get the nvidia working and most of the time that is fine
[18:44] <n0yd> oh its an optimus setup. That i have no idea about
[18:44] <jarope> n0yd: its the intel 3000 board with optimus nvidia
[18:44] <BluesKaj> ok , just so have some usage , jarope
[18:45] <BluesKaj> yuo
[18:45] <jarope> SO weird in ubuntu opengl on intel works no problem
[18:45] <jarope> but in kubuntu it doesnt recognise it as having opengl at all
[18:46] <jarope> n0yd: I think the problem is more general than the optimus issue
[18:46] <ahoneybun> n0yd: I'm using the hd 6450
[18:46] <ahoneybun> thats what my moniter is plugged into
[18:46] <n0yd> ahoneybun: ya I know
[18:46]  * BluesKaj had a tutorial for ubuntu , but this the first support question I've seen about optimus on kubuntu
[18:46] <ahoneybun> so no I'm not using both
[18:46] <ahoneybun> I could not do that
[18:46] <jarope> thing is I am getting use to Qt and love using a Qt environment
[18:46] <n0yd> I really dont know what to tell you. Cause I have no idea when you have two cards running, but are only using one
[18:47] <jarope> BluesKaj: I really dont think this is an optimus issue bumblebee generally works well for me
[18:48] <jarope> hmm ok guys might have to see if a live kubuntu works the same as the live ubuntu
[18:49] <n0yd> Hmm? Anyone here use googletalk protocol? I just want someone to message so I can see if this plugin works for my ibm thinklight
[18:49] <jarope> that would tell me if the install is broke
[18:49] <jarope> in gmail n0yd I do
[18:49] <n0yd> right now all my buddies are AFK/AWAY so I cant test
[18:49] <n0yd> jarope: wanna send me a msg real quick?
[18:49] <jarope> sure
[18:50] <n0yd> I pm'd you
[18:50] <jarope> msg me your detais
[18:50] <ahoneybun> n0yd: but they both should not be running
[18:51] <n0yd> they are still both probably picked up by linux though
[18:51] <n0yd> which is probably why it says no device supported or whatever it said
[18:53] <BluesKaj> jarope, not having used a dual gpu setup , I guess the switch to opengl is far from seamless or automatic
[18:54] <jarope> BluesKaj: seems mostly this last update
[18:54]  * BluesKaj nods
[18:54] <jarope> before that I had it working perfect steam on both the intel and nvidia
[18:55] <jarope> so think i t could be this install
[18:56] <BluesKaj> yeah the configurations don't get updated ..it's pita sometimes
[18:56]  * jarope thanks the cloud storage gods for copy and the huge amount of space he now has
[18:58] <jarope> ok thanks guys for letting me bounce the ideas about and unload my brain here
[18:59] <jarope> gonna go make a kubuntu live usb
[18:59] <BluesKaj> jarope, anytime
[19:13] <Gregor3000> how to see why wireless is not connecting? there is no error no message it just doesn't connect.
[19:14] <yofel> /var/log/syslog will show what it tries to do while connecting
[19:14] <yofel> (open that file in an editor)
[19:46] <Gregor3000> yofel: also in live session?
[19:47] <Gregor3000> this should be in the interface.
[19:47] <Gregor3000> not in system log. but the interface doesn't show anything. it just doesn't connect.
[19:48] <Gregor3000> i've posted on Ubuntu forums i will see if someone knwos the answer there.
[21:56] <Matisse> hey
[21:56] <Matisse> spyderlib is currently pretty old on ubuntu. for i am using precise its over 1 year older than the current stable... what can I do else but compiling from source?
[21:56] <Matisse> quantal-backports doesnt give me the quantal-version which is 2.1.10something  instead of 2.1.9
[21:57] <Matisse> package description shows the same dependencies
[22:39] <Matisse> so, i just installed the binary packages I found on the ubuntu website for newer ubuntu releases... got the features I wanted :)
[22:40] <Matisse> bye
[22:55] <alphacrypt1> ahhhhh nice
[22:55] <alphacrypt1> does anyone have just installed it on an external drive and it works
[22:56] <alphacrypt1> please help like that kde
[22:58] <alphacrypt1> hmmm
[22:58] <alphacrypt1> in german?
[23:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Who should I contact about Kubuntu Active testing and QA?
[23:41] <beltorak> hi all; i had to do an emergency transplant of my harddrive to a different laptop. the old laptop had the nvidia drivers set up but this laptop has an intel graphics card. I can't seem to get it to use the intel glx, Xorg.0.log keeps complaining that it can't find the NVidia GLX drivers.
[23:43] <beltorak> So now I can't get several of the desktop effects to work as they require opengl.