| manchicken | Howdy. | 00:09 |
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| mhall119 | JHOSMAN: you can us console.log() anywhere in QML that uses Javascript | 00:35 |
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| manchicken | Grumble... error: insufficient permissions for device | 01:17 |
| manchicken | Great... filesystem is toast it seems. | 01:19 |
| manchicken_ | Yay... adb sideload FTW. | 01:36 |
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| esigolo | netsplit oO | 01:39 |
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| leader | how can I ssh to my phone, please see http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5845612/ | 04:22 |
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| leader | which qt is to be installed on ubuntu phone , online installer 32 bit? | 04:41 |
| RAOF | leader: This one: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src | 04:46 |
| Mirv | leader: for developing, 'ubuntu-sdk', see http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/. on the phone, it should be included in images, but the Qt from Ubuntu archives as pointed out | 04:47 |
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| leader | hi, I'm reading ubuntu wiki, and I just done adb root; adb shell reboot -p , and how my device is not turning on at all | 05:46 |
| leader | how can I boot it again | 05:47 |
| leader | gosh so many bugs | 05:53 |
| leader | we cannot install both ubuntu and androind os in nexus 4 | 05:54 |
| popey_ | 05:22:53 < leader> how can I ssh to my phone, please see http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5845612/ | 06:21 |
| popey_ | it's "ssh phablet@<IP>" | 06:21 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 06:36 |
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| TobyK | hi, I phablet-flash'd my Nexus 7 but now it's stuck in a boot loop. Any ideas on how to fix this? | 06:54 |
| TobyK | I'm doing a wipe and reflash, let's see if that helps | 06:59 |
| TobyK | nope :-( still bootloop... | 07:02 |
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| JamesTait | Good morning all, happy Friday! :-D | 08:20 |
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| deschain | how hard would it be to porting ubuntu to a motorola xt879? | 08:33 |
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| didrocks | ogra_: hey | 09:38 |
| didrocks | ogra_: " * aaaand ... manually move all recommends back to depends since the image is | 09:38 |
| didrocks | currently built with --no-install-recommends" | 09:38 |
| didrocks | we still don't install recommends by default, right? | 09:38 |
| didrocks | Saviq: let's wait for ogra ^ but I guess we'll have to keep them in the seed as long as we don't install recommends :/ | 09:47 |
| Saviq | didrocks, :/ | 09:48 |
| Saviq | didrocks, it's probably to keep the image small | 09:48 |
| didrocks | Saviq: yeah, but then, we have duplication. I would prefer we work on getting recommends both sensible for desktop and phones | 09:49 |
| didrocks | with eventual alternatives | 09:49 |
| Saviq | didrocks, I agree | 09:51 |
| Saviq | dednick, https://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images/+bug/1181299 should be fixed with your branch, too, right? | 09:51 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1181299 in touch-preview-images "Sound indicator takes a while to load, not displaying the content sometimes" [Critical,Confirmed] | 09:51 |
| Saviq | dednick, sound controls are broken with your branch, though, I'm afraid | 09:52 |
| dednick | Saviq: broken? | 09:52 |
| Saviq | dednick, they don't do anything | 09:52 |
| dednick | Saviq: and no, it still takes awhile to load the indicators | 09:52 |
| Saviq | dednick, yeah, but the real bug was that sometimes it came up 'Empty!' | 09:52 |
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| Saviq | dednick, the fact that it takes a while to load them is a different issue | 09:53 |
| ogra_ | didrocks, right | 09:53 |
| Saviq | dednick, sorry for switching channels, btw :) | 09:53 |
| didrocks | Saviq: ok, so rejecting your branch :/ | 09:53 |
| didrocks | thanks ogra_ | 09:53 |
| Saviq | didrocks, yeah | 09:53 |
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| Saviq | didrocks, I'll resubmit with just the indicators dropped when we merge them into the shell | 09:54 |
| didrocks | Saviq: ok | 09:54 |
| dednick | Saviq: i'm not sure why sometimes it's coming up with empty. I think there may be something going on with the backend | 09:54 |
| ogra_ | i would love to get rid of that evil hack ... but i doubt we'll make it in saucy .... its a hell lot of work to shrink down the deps | 09:54 |
| Saviq | dednick, ah, didn't see that with your branch, but ok let's revisit later | 09:54 |
| didrocks | ogra_: yeah, it would be worthy though, let's see if we can get a global effort past saucy | 09:55 |
| dednick | Saviq: ya, seems to be a bit random that there is no content. but only seems to happen with sound | 09:55 |
| Saviq | dednick, by broken sound controls I mean they don't do anything | 09:56 |
| ogra_ | didrocks, right, that was my plan .... i mean, not that it is important once we dropped apt | 09:56 |
| Saviq | dednick, let's go back to -unity, btw | 09:56 |
| didrocks | ogra_: we still need it for building the image, right? | 09:56 |
| ogra_ | yes, but if we need it only for that it isnt that bad to use the option ... it really depends how much apt we will allow beyond that | 09:57 |
| ogra_ | (teh option is carried over into the image setup indeed) | 09:57 |
| didrocks | yeah, but I think the cleaning for having a good progressive enhancement (converged) story would be needed. Happy to try participating to that effort if it's the plan | 09:58 |
| Saviq | is sound broken on maguro for anyone else? | 10:08 |
| Saviq | it's very distorted here and sound controls don't work properly | 10:08 |
| ogra_ | i see the volume controls in the indicator | 10:08 |
| ogra_ | the media player doesnt seem to integrate with pulse yet though | 10:09 |
| ogra_ | so it doesnt have any effect on video playback if you try to adjuts anything | 10:09 |
| Saviq | ogra_, hmm it works fine on the same image in manta, though | 10:09 |
| Saviq | can it be a per-device thing? | 10:09 |
| ogra_ | sure, can be a codec thing | 10:09 |
| Saviq | ogra_, and if you play a video, does it break up badly? | 10:10 |
| ogra_ | i know that pulse isnt completely there yet, let diwic know once he is back from vacation (not exactly sure when that is ) | 10:10 |
| ogra_ | Saviq, well, i it is to loud and i get a slight distortion | 10:11 |
| Saviq | ogra_, how about CPU usage? it feels like it's hogging the CPU here | 10:11 |
| ogra_ | but i think it is caused simply by running at full volume without the ability to adjust | 10:11 |
| ogra_ | hmm, i havent checked on tthe cmdline it surely stays responsive and i can switch apps etc fluidly | 10:12 |
| Saviq | ogra_, and that's maguro? which image? | 10:12 |
| ogra_ | maguro ... hmm, i think the 03.1 image i didnt upgrade yesterdy | 10:12 |
| Saviq | ogra_, yeah, I'm at 04.2 | 10:14 |
| ogra_ | well, i dont think anything changed there | 10:14 |
| Saviq | ogra_, let's hope it's just me :) | 10:15 |
| ogra_ | well, there are definitely issues with pulse | 10:15 |
| ogra_ | though i wouldnt see why mako would behave any different | 10:16 |
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| ogra_ | cjwatson, hmm, so the renaming of the boot img files from armel to armhf seems to leave the armel ones behind, but only in the versioned dirs, /current has just armhf .... i guess we better fix that in livecd-rootfs and create them properly from the start | 10:23 |
| cjwatson | ogra_: Just rm them on cdimage and don't worry about it | 10:25 |
| cjwatson | ogra_: It's a known cdimage misfeature | 10:26 |
| ogra_ | you mean manually ? | 10:26 |
| cjwatson | Yes | 10:26 |
| cjwatson | You'll only have to do it once - they'll have been carried over from previous builds | 10:26 |
| ogra_ | oh, i didnt get they are just carryover cruft | 10:26 |
| cjwatson | (I predict) | 10:26 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 10:26 |
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| mhr3 | Saviq, wonder where did this come from https://twitter.com/dohbee/status/352844417650008065 | 10:26 |
| didrocks | mhr3: ask him to implement it :) | 10:27 |
| Saviq | mhr3, I've heard that come up here and there, ignored for the most part... | 10:27 |
| mhr3 | Saviq, and i thought you have a surprise for me :) | 10:28 |
| Saviq | mhr3, you know, it _could_ work | 10:28 |
| Saviq | mhr3, but I wouldn't say it'd be QML per se | 10:28 |
| Saviq | mhr3, it'd be a QML-like language that you'd declare "transformations" from HTML / XML / JSON | 10:28 |
| Saviq | mhr3, to a set of results | 10:29 |
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| Saviq | mhr3, using XPath / CSS selectors / $json_something | 10:29 |
| mhr3 | ouch, it almost looks like you really thought about it :P | 10:29 |
| * didrocks heard XPath and feel back 10 years ago | 10:30 | |
| Saviq | mhr3, I wouldn't go as far as enabling JS in there, but the idea is valid | 10:30 |
| didrocks | when having headaches every evenings :p | 10:30 |
| Saviq | mhr3, but yeah, academic | 10:30 |
| mhr3 | indeed | 10:30 |
| mhr3 | i do have to agree that if all scopes shared one v8 instance and just did this, it would be quite nice | 10:30 |
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| Saviq | mhr3, exactly | 10:32 |
| Saviq | mhr3, at least those that are simple translators between data structurse | 10:33 |
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| crawler | Hi folks | 10:38 |
| crawler | Has anybody managed to install ubuntu on a VidoN90FHDRK tablet ? | 10:39 |
| rvr | I've installed a flipped image. How are applications executed now? Before that, I did ubuntu_chroot and executed them | 10:43 |
| ogra_ | cjwatson, hmm, there is something wrong | 10:43 |
| ogra_ | cdimage@nusakan:/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/www/full/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current$ ls -l ../20130704.2/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armel+maguro.zip | 10:43 |
| ogra_ | -rw-rw-r-- 1 cdimage cdimage 31385276 Jul 4 18:59 ../20130704.2/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armel+maguro.zip | 10:43 |
| ogra_ | seems the numerwed armel+$subarch.zip files are all links to themselves | 10:44 |
| ogra_ | *numbered | 10:44 |
| * ogra_ wonders why phablet-flash doesnt freak out | 10:45 | |
| sergiusens | ogra_: it doesn't download from current | 10:46 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, not talking about current | 10:46 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: is that just today's build? | 10:46 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, the files themselves in the versioned dirs seem to just be links pointing to themselves | 10:46 |
| ogra_ | i was just trying to remove the boot-armel+foo.img stuff that seems to be carried over endlessly and saw that | 10:47 |
| ogra_ | cjwatson, also, wasnt /current supposed to just be a link to the latest dir again instead of being a dir itself ? | 10:48 |
| sergiusens | you can probably get rid of the .md5sums btw | 10:48 |
| sergiusens | I don't see an issue when looking through http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/20130704.2/ | 10:49 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, yeah, after i solved that problem | 10:49 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, look on nusakan directly | 10:49 |
| sergiusens | oh, details :-) | 10:49 |
| cjwatson | ogra_: Can you leave it a bit while I get breakfast so I can think properly, and then I'll look? | 10:50 |
| ogra_ | cjwatson, sure | 10:50 |
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| cjwatson | ogra_: Actually, I don't know what you're talking about regarding "links to themselves". They are not. | 10:51 |
| ogra_ | cdimage@nusakan:/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/www/full/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled$ ls -l 20130703.1/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armel+manta.zip | 10:52 |
| ogra_ | -rw-r--r-- 1 cdimage cdimage 46003765 Jul 3 14:41 20130703.1/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armel+manta.zip | 10:52 |
| cjwatson | Yes - so? That's clearly a regular file, not a symlink | 10:52 |
| ogra_ | hmm | 10:52 |
| sergiusens | yeah, I'm not seeing the links | 10:52 |
| sergiusens | only in /current, but they seem correct | 10:52 |
| sergiusens | tmoenicke: you around? | 10:53 |
| * ogra_ must be confused ... | 10:53 | |
| cjwatson | I think you're just getting confused by some red things in colourised ls, which is because it colourises .zip files the same way it does broken symlinks. Perhaps. | 10:53 |
| ogra_ | yeah, the red was what made me look | 10:53 |
| ogra_ | what confused me was that the output then showed me the linked full path when looking in current | 10:54 |
| cjwatson | And for current, that's probably just because cdimage needs to be updated to link to the *-boot-armhf-* files properly. | 10:54 |
| cjwatson | I'll fix that after breakfast. | 10:54 |
| ogra_ | thx | 10:54 |
| cjwatson | ogra_: linked full path> Well, that's normal for symlinks. | 10:55 |
| ogra_ | well, they were red too :) | 10:55 |
| cjwatson | No. | 10:55 |
| ogra_ | which usually is a dangling one | 10:55 |
| cjwatson | I mean, *-boot-armel+* are dangling, yes. That's genuine, as I mentioned above. | 10:56 |
| cjwatson | But *-touch-armel+* aren't. You can tell because the symlink itself is coloured normally, and only its target is red. | 10:56 |
| cjwatson | (Can I kill *.md5sum yet? When do we assume people have new enough phablet-tools?) | 10:57 |
| sergiusens | cjwatson: you can kill it | 10:57 |
| cjwatson | yay | 10:57 |
| cjwatson | So we just tell people to upgrade phablet-tools if it goes wrong? | 10:57 |
| ogra_ | http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/links-shot.png | 10:57 |
| ogra_ | see the right window, that was what confused me | 10:57 |
| sergiusens | cjwatson: yeah, well as it is today, they won't be able to use it with an older version anyways | 10:57 |
| cjwatson | ogra_: Symlink itself in light blue => symlink isn't dangling. | 10:58 |
| ogra_ | right, only the target is red | 10:58 |
| cjwatson | If it's dangling then the bit on the left of -> will be red too. | 10:58 |
| ogra_ | following the link with ls then gave me a full red output :) | 10:58 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 10:58 |
| cjwatson | But with no "->". | 10:58 |
| cjwatson | Thus, not a symlink. | 10:58 |
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| ogra_ | right | 10:58 |
| ogra_ | that was my confusion :) | 10:59 |
| Saviq | ogra_, is there a way with phablet-flash to select an image version to flash? | 11:12 |
| ogra_ | i think so, --list-revisions should show the available ones | 11:12 |
| ogra_ | and -r used with a revision number should install the picked one | 11:12 |
| sergiusens | Saviq: not yet, need to think of something there | 11:14 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, k thanks | 11:14 |
| sergiusens | log me a bug and I won't forget :-) | 11:14 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, btw, what are the touch-armel+$device zips? | 11:15 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, can I flash just the touch-armhf one or? | 11:15 |
| sergiusens | Saviq: touch-armel-$device is the android part | 11:15 |
| sergiusens | Saviq: you indeed want it | 11:16 |
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| Saviq | sergiusens, the on that's later handled by the lxc package | 11:16 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, how do I flash it manually, then? after the touch-arhmf? | 11:16 |
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| sergiusens | Saviq: first the $device one, then the touch-armhf.zip | 11:17 |
| sergiusens | Saviq: needless to say, if you already flashed it in the past, the -p works | 11:17 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, so if I move a newer image, it will just flash the newest one in there? | 11:18 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, or is that just the direct path to a dir in phablet-flash/ubuntu-touch/$version? | 11:18 |
| sergiusens | Saviq: direct path to dir | 11:19 |
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| Saviq | sergiusens, ah, so it is possible :) | 11:19 |
| sergiusens | phablet-flash -p ~/Downloads/phablet-flash/.*/20130630 | 11:19 |
| sergiusens | Saviq: but you have to have it dowloaded :-) | 11:19 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, yeah, that's fine | 11:19 |
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| ogra_ | rsalveti, hmm, did you check if adbd still works in the initrd (no /system, no container, no getprop there) when you get into an initrd shell ? | 11:25 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, bug 1198147 | 11:31 |
| ubot5 | bug 1198147 in Phablet Tools "There should be an easy way to flash a non-latest image" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1198147 | 11:31 |
| timp | Saviq: phablet-flash --revision? | 11:33 |
| Saviq | timp, tried --list-revisions? | 11:34 |
| Saviq | timp, it's a manual thing to tag a certain image | 11:34 |
| sergiusens | Saviq: ty | 11:34 |
| Saviq | timp: bug 1194919 | 11:34 |
| ubot5 | bug 1194919 in Phablet Tools "call to fastboot from phablet-flash hangs with <waiting for device> message" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1194919 | 11:34 |
| timp | Saviq: ah. my assumptions about revisions were wrong | 11:34 |
| Saviq | wrong | 11:34 |
| Saviq | timp, I meant bug 1192511 | 11:35 |
| ubot5 | bug 1192511 in Phablet Tools "--list-revisions doesn't show all releases" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1192511 | 11:35 |
| timp | ok, your bug makes sense :) | 11:35 |
| timp | gmail doesn't work in chromium for me anymore. even after clearing cache/cookies/... :s | 11:36 |
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| cjwatson | ogra_: All fixed now; looks like I'd forgotten a piece when I was doing the boot armel->armhf changeover | 11:49 |
| cjwatson | ogra_,sergiusens: And I've removed the .md5sum generation now | 11:54 |
| ogra_ | cjwatson, yay, did you start a build ? | 12:06 |
| * ogra_ would like to see if the stamp writing works too now | 12:06 | |
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| * ogra_ sees nothing running and fires off one | 12:08 | |
| cjwatson | ogra_: There was going to be one in an hour and a bit, so I didn't bother | 12:13 |
| * ogra_ wonders what that favicon on http://phablet.ubuntu.com/export/ is | 12:16 | |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, ah, ingore that, i see you only changed the upstart job, i thought you also added any code deps on libhybris | 12:22 |
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| ogra_ | sergiusens, do you know where in the git tree i should search for the code creating the boot.img ? i cant seem to find it in the SGS2 tree | 13:27 |
| user82 | is the whole flipped thing a transistion to ubuntu only or will there still be kept a lot of android base? | 13:32 |
| esigolo | user82: ill be kept some things ! | 13:32 |
| ogra_ | we keep all we need to use the binary blobs | 13:33 |
| xnox | user82: depends on target device. android bits are used to access hardware sensors and the like. | 13:33 |
| cjwatson | ogra_: Just setting BUILDSTAMP as a shell variable in live-build/auto/config will not achieve much of any interest. It needs to actually be written to the output live-build config files. | 13:41 |
| cjwatson | ogra_: Could you please test this locally before your next livecd-rootfs upload? | 13:41 |
| ogra_ | ok | 13:41 |
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| user82 | xnox, esigolo so in the end only the kernel? surfaceflinger gone. dalvik was never in there. the android standard library or something? | 13:43 |
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| mhall119 | ogra_: rsalveti: any idea why the flipped images directory doesn't have a changelog? | 13:52 |
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| mhall119 | I liked being able to refresh that tab in the morning to see what awaited me | 13:53 |
| xnox | user82: gps, abient light sensors, webcameras, microphones, sim/3g/gprs/gsm, gyroscopes, hardware volume buttons.... | 13:56 |
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| esigolo | user82: i think ogra_ can explain it for you ! | 14:00 |
| e8hffff | is there currently a pdf reader that works? also should I install samba or is there another networking model proposed? | 14:02 |
| esigolo | xnox: sorry and had not seen your reply | 14:03 |
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| esigolo | e8hffff: you can see the avaliable packages here https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa | 14:05 |
| e8hffff | esigolo: thx | 14:06 |
| esigolo | e8hffff: you are welcome ! | 14:06 |
| e8hffff | esigolo: it would eb nice to have somewhat usable device while using it fro development | 14:08 |
| esigolo | asac: i don't know if you guys did something but handle the phone with the protection cover become significantly better on the last nightly | 14:08 |
| e8hffff | esigolo: for me that means being able to read pdf's and get files off network | 14:08 |
| esigolo | e8hffff: you chan transfer the files over ssh or adb push/pull but i did no see any pdf reader around ! sorry | 14:10 |
| cjwatson | mhall119: nobody's written the necessary code to generate that in cdimage | 14:12 |
| AskUbuntu | Will Ubuntu Touch include support for Bluetooth Low Energy | http://askubuntu.com/q/316694 | 14:12 |
| esigolo | rsalveti: any luck with 3g issue? :) | 14:14 |
| e8hffff | Why did they remove the terminate app 'X' in the crawler menu. It's good to have the terminate X in bother crawler menu and the lists of apps in the apps-lens | 14:17 |
| e8hffff | both... not bother | 14:18 |
| rsalveti | esigolo: yeah, needs fixing at the data part | 14:28 |
| rsalveti | mhall119: I don't remember if ogra_ was planning to add a similar file in there | 14:29 |
| esigolo | rsalveti: if you need some test ping me =) | 14:29 |
| rsalveti | but we need some sort of stamp indeed | 14:29 |
| rsalveti | could even be a property or such | 14:29 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: yeah, the hybris dep in this case is just for the utilities | 14:30 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: you should stop getting the 'device is offline' message now | 14:30 |
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| ogra_ | rsalveti, mhall119, i was actually hoping we can pull the changelogs of the android packages in instead | 14:43 |
| ogra_ | (once they are done) | 14:43 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: but I don't think we have any sort of stamp in it, right? | 14:44 |
| rsalveti | might be needed later on as well | 14:44 |
| rsalveti | to know which image the user is using, and if developer mode is enabled or not | 14:44 |
| ogra_ | well, if i wouldnt mess it up all the time there would be a stamp in /var/log/installer/media-info | 14:44 |
| rsalveti | got it | 14:44 |
| ogra_ | currenntly that has everything but the stamp itself :) | 14:44 |
| ogra_ | developer mode will be enabled by touching /data/developer-mode or some such if i read the initrd script right | 14:47 |
| ogra_ | so that should be easy to find out :) | 14:47 |
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| ogra_ | mhall119, the android bits will soon be in a package, you should be able to just read the package changelog for it | 14:49 |
| mhall119 | ogra_: cool | 14:50 |
| mhall119 | when fginther is back, I'll talk to him about getting useful changelog entries for the core apps | 14:50 |
| ogra_ | and if desired we can indeed push it as a .changelog file to the dir (though that seems redundant) | 14:50 |
| * ogra_ thinks a link to the LP page of the android packages would proobably be cleverer | 14:51 | |
| sergiusens | mhall119: ok, just don't make them go to daily release as the plan for core apps is to be a click package | 14:52 |
| sergiusens | as in, it's too much work for something we will not need in the near future | 14:52 |
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| ogra_ | well, probably mpt could design something so you can read the changelogs of click packages in the UI | 14:53 |
| ogra_ | but i bet thats rather low prio :) | 14:53 |
| ogra_ | at least in our current status | 14:54 |
| mhall119 | sergiusens: all the core apps are currently built into packages by jenkins on every bzr commit | 14:54 |
| ogra_ | mhall119, that will change as soon as we drop apt and switch to click packages | 14:54 |
| mhall119 | even for stuff in the default install? | 14:54 |
| rsalveti | renato__: cyphermox: tried to debug bug 1195787 here yesterday, but it crashes inside nm when trying to get a gobject cache | 14:54 |
| ogra_ | foir all apps as i undeerstood | 14:54 |
| rsalveti | probably because it's trying to get an object that's not available anymore, or via wrong index | 14:55 |
| mhall119 | either way, we already have packaging and auto-building, it's just that Jenkins doesn't put useful messages in the debian/changelog | 14:55 |
| rsalveti | but the problem happens via dbus, so no easy trace | 14:55 |
| ogra_ | mhall119, i was surprised too :) | 14:55 |
| rsalveti | renato__: would you mind taking a look at that later on? | 14:55 |
| rsalveti | this bug is really annoying | 14:55 |
| timp | how do I check on a device which image I am running there? I just did a phablet-flash and it seems to have finished without problems, but I have a non-flipped image installed | 14:55 |
| ogra_ | mhall119, i would have expected a core to be shipped as part of the image ... but seems thats not desired | 14:55 |
| timp | on nexus 10 | 14:55 |
| mhall119 | timp: do you have the very latest phablet-tools package? | 14:55 |
| cyphermox | rsalveti: I should have fixed this in a mr yesterday... I think | 14:56 |
| rsalveti | cyphermox: you only fixed when enabling/disabling wifi | 14:56 |
| timp | mhall119: yes, 0.14+13.10.20130704-0ubuntu1 | 14:56 |
| rsalveti | cyphermox: it still crashes when trying to change wifi ap | 14:56 |
| ogra_ | timp, theoretically it should be in /var/log/installer/media-info, practically there is a bug that doesnt put the stamp in | 14:56 |
| timp | mhall119: I flashed a phone with it before and that was fine, but now for the tablet I'm not sure. perhaps that image is not flipped yet? | 14:56 |
| cyphermox | oh, right I see | 14:56 |
| cyphermox | well it's likely the same crap | 14:56 |
| ogra_ | i'll have that fixed before end of the day, so tomorrows image should have it | 14:56 |
| rsalveti | cyphermox: probably | 14:57 |
| rsalveti | would be awesome if someone could take a look at that | 14:57 |
| rsalveti | better if someone that knows vala :-) | 14:57 |
| timp | ogra_: I don't have /var/log/installer dir | 14:57 |
| ogra_ | timp, well, then you dont run flipped i bet, does adb get you into an ubuntu or into an android env ? | 14:58 |
| cyphermox | rsalveti: yes, I'll look soon | 14:58 |
| timp | ogra_: into android, so it is not flipped | 14:58 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 14:58 |
| renato__ | rsalveti, I can try but I do not have any nm skills, alberto wrote the original code | 14:58 |
| cyphermox | just about tired of the pain of trying to build a new kernel :) | 14:58 |
| timp | ogra_: so are the images for *all* devices now flipped? | 14:58 |
| ogra_ | yes | 14:58 |
| rsalveti | Saviq: seems to be part of the latest image already \o/ | 14:58 |
| timp | ok, then my flashing went wrong | 14:58 |
| ogra_ | but you need to use the latest phablet-tools | 14:58 |
| rsalveti | renato__: got it, cyphermox might be the guy for this then :-) | 14:58 |
| rsalveti | cyphermox: :-) | 14:58 |
| renato__ | rsalveti, maybe ted can hep on that, he is working on the network indicator now | 14:59 |
| timp | ogra_: do you see anything going wrong here? https://pastebin.canonical.com/93871/ | 14:59 |
| cyphermox | rsalveti: I'm a bit stuck, you wouldn't have already a backtrace would you? | 14:59 |
| timp | why does it download two images? | 14:59 |
| rsalveti | cyphermox: I think I have, just a sec | 14:59 |
| ogra_ | cjwatson, i guess i should delete the .md5sum files manually ? seems they get carried over once again | 14:59 |
| ogra_ | timp, one is all the HW specific stuff, the other is a hw independent ubuntu | 15:00 |
| mhall119 | ogra_: will it ever be possible to offer one generic installable image for multiple devices, like we do for desktops? | 15:01 |
| timp | do I need to do something special (add -b to phablet-flash?) the first time I install a flipped image? | 15:01 |
| ogra_ | mhall119, no ... we could use one image per device but that would waste a lot of space on cdimage | 15:01 |
| mhall119 | ogra_: is that a limitation in the way ARM devices are made? | 15:02 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: no | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, no what ? | 15:02 |
| cjwatson | ogra_: I thought that might happen. I'll do it now | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | mhall119, that is a limitation in android .... we could merge all zips into one gigantic image but that would waste the users bandwith to download crap he doesnt need | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | cjwatson, ah. thx | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | mhall119, android is designed in a way that each device needs its own HW bits (esle we wouldnt need to do porting at all) | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | they eeven dont use the same kernel | 15:04 |
| cjwatson | (done) | 15:04 |
| Saviq | rsalveti, cool | 15:05 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: that was for mhall119 :-) | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, heh | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | cjwatson, thanks ! | 15:05 |
| timp | ogra_: I did a phablet-flash -b, and now I get the image that I expected :) | 15:09 |
| ogra_ | yay | 15:09 |
| Ubuncat | Hello! | 15:18 |
| davmor2 | popey: can you just confirm something with the rss app does it actually update currently? | 15:18 |
| Ubuncat | I don't know if this is the right place to ask... since everything will converge to Unity8, will there be a Desktop version of the interface, or will someone using it on the living room desktop be stuck with a Touch interface? | 15:19 |
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| mhall119 | ogra_: that's what I thought, too bad | 15:21 |
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| Ubuncat | hm, guess this is not the right place to ask either. | 15:23 |
| cjwatson | Ubuncat: Same software stack doesn't necessarily mean the same interface behaviour in all respects | 15:26 |
| cjwatson | (Not a Unity developer but) I believe the intent is to have it be sensitive to the form factor it's running on to at least some extent | 15:26 |
| Ubuncat | I'd like to see an option to be able to keep the launcher always-seen on desktops, at least. Its one of the things that made me hate the earlier vesions. | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | rsalveti: did you get a backtrace? | 15:28 |
| Ubuncat | I have to run! So guess we'll see what happens when the thing launches! tata! | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | rsalveti: otherwise I'll reflash to android, get the info I need, and then reflash touch and get the backtrace | 15:28 |
| rsalveti | cyphermox: got it here, 1 sec, was on a call | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | ok | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | huh, Ubuncat was someone from Quebec. | 15:29 |
| cyphermox | I've never seen them in the loco channel :) | 15:29 |
| mhall119 | did we lose the tap-on-indicator to open the general settings page? | 15:30 |
| rsalveti | cyphermox: renato__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5847118/ | 15:30 |
| rsalveti | it seems to do the right thing, but it crashes later | 15:30 |
| rsalveti | like, I'm able to change my ap just fine | 15:31 |
| rsalveti | guess it's just not updating the internal ap list correctly, might be getting the wrong object with wrong id | 15:31 |
| cyphermox | rsalveti: yeah, something is unref'ing an object where it shouldn't | 15:32 |
| cyphermox | rsalveti: I think perhaps we're unref'ing something as we destroy the list | 15:32 |
| rsalveti | cyphermox: could be | 15:33 |
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| didrocks | pete-woods: FYI: https://code.launchpad.net/~ps-jenkins/nux/latestsnapshot-4.0.2+13.10.20130705-0ubuntu1/+merge/173249 | 16:49 |
| didrocks | (look at the commit message) | 16:49 |
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| didrocks | ah, it was a Wellark who requested it in fact ^ | 16:50 |
| joseph_thegreat | barghh! I am trying to make a music app for reading sheet music and making it and having dubtracts ect. I am at the point where I want to make scrolling display for sheet music but I can not figure out how to make a grid view automatic scroll down. I have tried on a timmer but it gets the beats (8/8 8/32 ect) wrong and scrolls on its own . any ideas ? \ | 16:53 |
| pete-woods | didrocks: I was confused there! :) | 16:55 |
| didrocks | pete-woods: can I use the card of "EOW"? :) | 16:55 |
| pete-woods | didrocks: I think that is fair! | 16:55 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 16:55 |
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| esigolo | ls -ltr | 17:02 |
| esigolo | ops | 17:02 |
| esigolo | sorry | 17:02 |
| bobweaver | How to fix this ? | 17:08 |
| bobweaver | QML debugging is enabled. Only use this in a safe environment. | 17:08 |
| bobweaver | file:///home/joseph/Templates/build-Mythbuntu-QML-Desktop_Qt_5_1_0_GCC_32bit-Debug/programs/frontend/qml/Mythbuntu-QML/main.qml:9:1: plugin cannot be loaded for module "MythTv": Plugin verification data mismatch in '/home/joseph/Qt5.1.0-RC/5.1.0-rc1/gcc/qml/MythTv/libMythTv.so' | 17:08 |
| bobweaver | import MythTv 1.0 | 17:08 |
| bobweaver | ^ | 17:08 |
| bobweaver | it is compiled with that version of qmake . code is located here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/mythbuntu/mythtv-qml/files/head:/src/MythTv/ | 17:09 |
| * cyphermox brb -> lunch | 17:32 | |
| mhall119 | Kaleo_: how can I un-apply the default styles for an item now? | 17:50 |
| mhall119 | previously the calculator was setting the following for TextFields it didn't want to render as text fields: | 17:51 |
| mhall119 | ItemStyle.delegate: Item{} | 17:51 |
| Kaleo_ | mhall119: it's not recommended | 17:54 |
| Kaleo_ | mhall119: the calculator was adapted for that | 17:54 |
| Kaleo_ | mhall119: but dalius reverted the adaptation 2 days ago | 17:55 |
| Kaleo_ | mhall119: that he approved for merge 2 days too early | 17:56 |
| Kaleo_ | .. | 17:56 |
| Kaleo_ | mhall119: reapply revision 90 and done | 17:56 |
| mhall119 | ok | 17:56 |
| SpacedOut | loicm: It's been a month, can you take another look at my merge request, https://code.launchpad.net/~spacedout/qtubuntu/fix_opengl_sharing/+merge/163466 | 17:59 |
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| mhall119 | Kaleo_: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/ubuntu-calculator-app/reapply-new-styling/+merge/173261 look good to you? | 18:01 |
| bobweaver | Bingo thanks netcurli now to figure out how to make DNSServiceRefDeallocate and other things become defined symbol You Are Awesome ! | 18:01 |
| esigolo | Windows tem got a zip bomb virus !!! and now they are asking for help ! ! they want to mount the lun on linux to remove thje file | 18:01 |
| bobweaver | even though I include bonjour/ avhavi libs It still says that class are undefined | 18:02 |
| dixeflatline | quick question... should i use the latest flipped or preview? | 18:03 |
| bobweaver | I wish I had speakers like the ones that I set up each day at work in my office room | 18:04 |
| bobweaver | maybe you all could use this lib to make more qml/zeroconf/bonjour/avhavi cross platform like making a qmlelemnt that is like BonjourBackend{ id: ipod ; serviceName: "_ubuntuTouch._tcp" } | 18:08 |
| bobweaver | then you all could connect phones to desktops as soon as the device is located on the LAN | 18:09 |
| bobweaver | any Ho The Libary is located in Mythbuntu qml frontend that I lam making. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/mythbuntu/mythtv-qml/files/head:/src/zeroConf/ It is all GPL+3 at this point | 18:11 |
| bobweaver | seems like it could be used for tvs and also anythign else that has a bonjour register | 18:12 |
| bobweaver | could even change the look of the device with signals | 18:12 |
| bobweaver | http://doc.qt.digia.com/qq/qq23-bonjour.html | 18:14 |
| Valerio | hello, does anybody know the email client development's status? | 18:39 |
| mhall119 | Music app meeting in #ubuntu-touch-meeting | 19:02 |
| mhall119 | anybody around for it? | 19:02 |
| esigolo | done | 19:11 |
| androidHater | hi guys! can anyone tell me when a stable version of ubuntu touch will come one and if it will support my HTC Sensation? i really hate android and with every update it starts lagging more and more :( | 19:11 |
| esigolo | androidHater you can see the supported devices here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 19:11 |
| esigolo | androidHater: and as far I know there is no ETA about stable version | 19:12 |
| mhall119 | stable version should be the 13.10 release along with Ubuntu desktop and server | 19:17 |
| AskUbuntu | Nexus 7: Please help | http://askubuntu.com/q/316803 | 19:22 |
| Kaleo_ | mhall119: yes | 19:24 |
| mhall119 | thanks Kaleo_ | 19:26 |
| esigolo | Kaleo_: 13.10 will be the first end user version? | 19:28 |
| mhall119 | esigolo: I think he was replying to something I asked a while ago | 19:28 |
| esigolo | mhall119: ohh ok sorry | 19:29 |
| mhall119 | Clock app meeting time in #ubuntu-touch-meeting | 19:32 |
| esigolo | mhall119: can I join just to watch? | 19:34 |
| nik90 | esigolo: ofcourse. Come along | 19:34 |
| nik90 | its a public meeting | 19:34 |
| esigolo | thanks | 19:34 |
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| rsalveti | cyphermox: any luck with either nm or indicator-server? | 20:07 |
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| cyphermox | rsalveti: nah | 20:22 |
| cyphermox | I don't understand what's up | 20:22 |
| cyphermox | rsalveti: It's not an issue in NM, that's for sure, it's just doing what it should, and this is pretty core stuff | 20:23 |
| rsalveti | cyphermox: yeah, yesterday I removed most of the code there dealing with the aps, and still crashing | 20:23 |
| cyphermox | the only thing I could explain was if there was some issue in glib or memory corruption | 20:23 |
| rsalveti | right | 20:23 |
| cyphermox | otherwise there's some piece with indicator-server that's not doing the right thing | 20:23 |
| cyphermox | seems to me like it happens when the active ap changes | 20:23 |
| rsalveti | exactly | 20:24 |
| rsalveti | let me reflash the latest raring tagged build to see | 20:24 |
| rsalveti | try to isolate what causes it | 20:24 |
| cyphermox | ah, good idea | 20:24 |
| cyphermox | I'll take the time to reflash to android now, I need to get back to figuring out what piece is missing for bluetooth on the mako for ttyHS0 | 20:24 |
| rsalveti | cyphermox: right | 20:25 |
| rsalveti | cyphermox: would you mind updating the nm ofono code later on as well? just to wait for the attached property | 20:26 |
| rsalveti | that would probably make my phone to work safely with data | 20:26 |
| rsalveti | otherwise I can try something locally, but I believe you'll fix that in 10 minutes :-) | 20:26 |
| cyphermox | sure | 20:27 |
| AskUbuntu | When are you going 2 release Ubuntu phone os | http://askubuntu.com/q/316832 | 20:48 |
| esigolo | popey: rsalveti I can safely say that is not an ETA to ubuntu touch ? | 20:52 |
| rsalveti | esigolo: there will be a release together with 13.10 that should be quite usable already | 20:53 |
| rsalveti | which should probably be the first release | 20:53 |
| esigolo | Greate :) | 20:53 |
| esigolo | Great* | 20:53 |
| esigolo | there is any way to test gps? | 20:55 |
| rsalveti | there's only a test software for the api, I believe the localization service will land next week | 20:56 |
| rsalveti | ops, *location service | 20:57 |
| arges | hi. whats the command for cleaning out all the pre-populated music/contacts/messages after a fresh phablet-flash? | 20:59 |
| esigolo | arges: sudo apt-get remove demo* !! Like demo-assets-pictures | 21:00 |
| sergiusens | arges: apt-get remove demo-assets-videos demo-assets-music | 21:00 |
| arges | esigolo: sergiusens : thanks! | 21:00 |
| esigolo | arges: welcome ! | 21:00 |
| esigolo | arges: just remember you have to connect over ssh or adb shell | 21:01 |
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| brokolica | hello | 21:09 |
| esigolo | brokolica: hello | 21:09 |
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| brokolica | i have one question sorry my english :-\ is a ubuntu touch possible install to tablet iconia tab A500 ? | 21:11 |
| popey | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices is the devices list | 21:11 |
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| rsalveti | cyphermox: indicator-server from trunk works fine with raring | 21:12 |
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| rsalveti | will try to build with the latest nm now | 21:13 |
| brokolica | isnt there :'( | 21:13 |
| esigolo | brokolica: so unfortunately you got to wait until somebody port it | 21:15 |
| arges | maybe there is a wiki for this but... how do I see newly installed apps after i install via shell? Do I need to restart the tablet, or do a unity --refresh ? or some command | 21:15 |
| popey | you should see them in the app lens | 21:15 |
| brokolica | thanks i hope so much :-D maybe one day | 21:16 |
| arges | popey: hmm. doesn't seem to be showing up. I did an 'apt-get install touch-coreapps' via adb shell, and don't see any of the additional apps | 21:17 |
| popey | did you add the ppa first? | 21:18 |
| popey | oh, you need to restart unity, yes | 21:18 |
| arges | no didn't add PPA just whatevers in the archive | 21:18 |
| popey | quickest is just reboot, but there is a way to restart the session | 21:19 |
| popey | i just don't have the command (or phone) near me right now | 21:19 |
| arges | just trying to dogfood a bit, and wanted to try out things i normally do (like read PDFs) | 21:19 |
| arges | popey: cool rebooting thanks | 21:20 |
| joobie | hey guys.. i was reading xda-developers to find a ROM for my phone and bumped into Ubuntu Touch ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2331876 ) | 21:23 |
| joobie | is it stable? | 21:23 |
| popey | joobie: define stable ☻ | 21:25 |
| popey | its under constant development, getting new releases of apps and libraries frequently | 21:25 |
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| joobie | popey, can i use SMS, Phone Calls, Email (Exchange Sync), Contacts, Calendars? | 21:27 |
| joobie | speakerphone, bluetooth | 21:27 |
| joobie | those kinda standard functions, without it crashing on me ? :P | 21:28 |
| joobie | i use my phone day to day so need it to work.. but dont mind the occasional reboot | 21:28 |
| sergiusens | wait until october | 21:28 |
| popey | some of those features done exist yet | 21:29 |
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| joobie | which ones do? | 21:31 |
| joobie | looks cool via youtube btw | 21:31 |
| joobie | i might be able to compromise some of those feature s:P | 21:32 |
| popey | well, as it's under active development right now any of those apps can crash or stop working in a daily build, despite our best intentions | 21:33 |
| joobie | ahh | 21:34 |
| joobie | but do they all exist ? | 21:34 |
| joobie | willing to give it a go if so to see how much they do crash | 21:35 |
| popey | nope | 21:35 |
| joobie | which ones are missing? | 21:35 |
| popey | we have sms, phone, contacts, calendar is not finished. | 21:36 |
| popey | speakerphone and bluetooth aren't done yet. | 21:37 |
| joobie | ahh ok | 21:38 |
| joobie | ill have to wait then | 21:38 |
| joobie | damn :) it looks like a great interface | 21:38 |
| popey | it is ☻ | 21:38 |
| joobie | are there plans ot make it support activesync (exchange) ? | 21:38 |
| popey | not in the platform, but perhaps in the apps | 21:44 |
| arges | ok last question from me for the day... if I want to run an app via the command line, is there a variable I need to export for the display server ? i.e. (DISPLAY=:0.0 program) | 21:47 |
| popey | that wont work, the phone doesn't ship with X | 21:47 |
| arges | popey: i'm aware, but an equivalent for mir | 21:47 |
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| cyphermox | rsalveti: could be an issue that is caused by the new glib/gmenumodel and stuffs | 21:52 |
| cyphermox | I mean, that wifi code hasn't changed :) | 21:52 |
| cyphermox | gah | 21:52 |
| cyphermox | why this mess with the Attached property and so many things that ofono can't just DO on it's own | 21:52 |
| cyphermox | it makes for so many corner cases to work around, stuff to check and poll for etc. just really ugly code | 21:53 |
| rsalveti | cyphermox: don't you have a similar attached property for the modem manager side? | 21:57 |
| rsalveti | it makes sense to have such state it seems | 21:57 |
| cyphermox | no | 21:57 |
| cyphermox | or, maybe, but it's not so complicated | 21:57 |
| cyphermox | and actually, there probably just isn't, we can just check the registration status on the go | 21:57 |
| cyphermox | and you know, do the right magic to prod MM to the right state | 21:58 |
| rsalveti | right | 21:59 |
| rsalveti | but in our case can't we just track attached instead of on-line, for example? | 22:00 |
| rsalveti | as I believe that is what we want anyway, as we don't do anything differently with ofono yet, just data | 22:00 |
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| rsalveti | cyphermox: yeah, works with saucy's nm | 22:07 |
| rsalveti | trying new glib | 22:07 |
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| newbie_ | hey all | 23:49 |
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