=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za === ThatGraemeGuy_ is now known as ThatGraemeGuy === Neo31-desk is now known as Neo31 === ThatGraemeGuy is now known as Guest56135 [06:23] morning all [06:24] oh my the fly is gone [06:40] ugh I think I just broke my SA box [06:40] ouch [06:42] I edited /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Wired\ connection \1 [06:42] to add an ipv6 manual address [06:42] and the moment I hit save, didnt even restart anything [06:42] connectivity dies [06:42] ouch [06:42] I presume that file is monitored or something by the system for changes? === who_da_fly is now known as superfly [07:03] morning peoples === magespawn_ is now known as magespawn [07:05] ohi [07:05] hi superfly magespawn [07:06] what happened superfly ? everything was offline [07:06] Kilos: I don't know. Ask Freenode [07:06] oh them ya [07:07] good morning Kilos superfly [07:10] hi magespawn [07:10] hi ThatGraemeGuy [07:15] superfly i am back on the n900 the samsung was just giving me too many problems [07:17] oh my [07:17] router stops my 3g working [07:18] new name for the the is ratter [07:18] grrr [07:22] thing [07:30] Kilos did you not get them all talking nicely the other day? [07:32] ya the tablet saw the router and i could drag/drop to tablet but have got it to share 3g yet now today it kills my 3g signal [07:32] grr [07:34] sounds like a setting has reset itself [07:35] i can hold the reset button again and try [07:40] here goes [07:40] wait [07:41] the reset button on the router will just set it back to factory settings === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [07:43] grrr [07:47] cold here today, they say 18°c max [07:48] i like even nights to be 20°c [07:52] cols all over it looks like, here is supposed to be 21 [07:52] s/cols/cold [07:55] wb superfly [07:57] seriously? *sigh* [07:58] yea sorry [08:05] happening a lot lately it seems [08:05] our za internet sucks [08:11] no, this is Freenode [08:11] my IRC connection is based in the USA [08:11] why they dropping you today? [08:11] and my other IRC networks have not gone down [08:11] just Freenode [08:11] ah [08:17] Hi [08:17] i have 2 different android live cds here but both stick at detecting android-X86 and fill screen with ......... [08:17] hi mazal [08:17] Gaanit oom ? [08:17] mazal why not convert everything to one format [08:18] koud en self [08:18] Re the dvd's you talking about ? [08:18] have a look at mobile media converter or mmediac i thinks it might be called now [08:19] ya for the dvds [08:19] Converting is not the problem [08:19] It's building the dvd that is [08:19] can you just burn them to dvd with k3b [08:19] I have many converters , but then you must "auther" a dvd that builds a menu and create a dvd structure and take that to iso [08:19] explain building the dvd [08:19] k3b can't do that [08:20] oh you want to make an iso of it [08:20] Video dvd's must have the correct structure insode a Video_ts folder containing ifo and vob files and menu that is correct format and structure to play in a dvd player [08:20] there is something i saw about creating an iso in ubuntu [08:20] That's where the thing comes in [08:21] Maaz: coffee on [08:21] * Maaz puts the kettle on [08:21] DVDstyler work so well for many years [08:21] Maaz: larfe [08:21] Squirm: What? [08:21] Maaz: large [08:21] In a beer mug just for you Squirm [08:21] Maaz: bigger [08:21] Squirm: Sorry... [08:21] Now broken in 13.04 [08:21] meh [08:21] lo [08:21] hi Squirm [08:22] Bombono as suggested on mail list currently works for me. Only gripe I have with it is that it has a very time consuming way of creating the menu [08:22] will just creating an iso of the folder work? [08:22] You must do it manually [08:22] No it won't Kilos [08:22] A folder with a bunch of video files will only play on a pc [08:22] oh ok then im lost, maybe someone else has ideas [08:23] For now I will use Bombono and hope dvdstyler get's fixed in next Ubuntu [08:23] Bombono just takes a lot of time with the menu , otherwise it is good [08:24] * Squirm is busy updating his linux mint [08:24] I think I skipped a release [08:25] Coffee's ready for Squirm! [08:25] woop [08:25] hi psyatw [08:25] Maaz [08:25] hi Kilos [08:25] Maaz ek roep jou [08:25] mazal: Huh? [08:25] Maaz kan jy al steak maak ? [08:25] mazal: *blink* [08:25] hehe [08:25] hi Squirm [08:27] Hi psyatw [08:27] Maaz don't blink at me feed me [08:27] mazal: Sorry... [08:28] hi mazal [08:37] blast from the past, just had one of these dropped at my shop http://content.bikhir.ma/images/85/8590061209.jpg [08:37] what is it [08:38] HP something or other [08:38] photocopier, only [08:38] ah [08:38] Minolta cs pro ep 2030 [08:40] still switches on, but looks and smells like rats have nesting in it [08:40] lol [08:40] ive got a win xp pc coming for repairs [08:41] Run Kilos run [08:41] cant see mouse and all icons missing of desktop [08:41] hehe [08:41] cant family of family [08:41] We get that icons thing a lot [08:41] suspect virus or malware [08:41] Mostly happens when user click on the desktop cleanup popup and don't read properly [08:42] But ya , probably virus , it's MS [08:42] how do you fix it? [08:42] Deleted items from desktop there is only one way , one by one manually [08:43] lol [08:43] system restore [08:43] apparently there arent any [08:43] We created a bat file now in all our pc's startup that copies al main shortcuts to the desktop every time the user logs on [08:44] what a waste of data getting antivirus and stuff for 1 pc [08:44] Is such a pain the virus thing [08:44] are there no system restore points Kilos? [08:45] i dunno magespawn will look tonight when it comes then we can discuss it on my channel [08:45] well get reprimanded here [08:45] good idea batman [08:47] look at this when you got time, i put it on 7 [08:47] http://www.lavasoft.com/ [08:47] does a range of things and dont slow pc [08:49] Seems promising [08:50] um [08:50] what's my nick? [08:50] hi Guest56135 [08:51] ah [08:51] weird [08:51] But I don't see an option for manual definition update download [08:51] http://www.lavasoft.com/products/ad_aware_free.php [08:51] http://i.imgur.com/Ms0jqMI.png [08:52] Guest56135, what did you do === Guest56135 is now known as ThatGraemeGuy [08:52] thats better [08:52] no idea [08:52] hi ThatGraemeGuy [08:53] That's the program itself Kilos [08:53] * ThatGraemeGuy waves [08:53] I'm refering to def files for when you want to update a pc manually that don't have internet [08:54] might be an option once installed [08:54] but without net i have no idea [08:54] For example I dl the manual definitions file for our av once a week. Then I have it with me in the field and update stand-alone pc's [08:55] ah [08:55] And when I format I update with that file first [08:55] it checks for updates all the time [08:55] Then even the pc's that have internet have a small incremental update after that [08:55] Saves plenty of data [08:55] yeah [08:56] Is like apt cache for av lol [08:56] maybe one can install it to a stick [08:56] So is always the first thing when looking at av I look if their site have manual update files or if it only works with updating straight from the net [08:56] you gotta experiment i got no place in nut to remember win stuff [08:58] We have entered an era where you simply can't run pc's without inet anymore hey [08:59] yeah [09:03] mazal, why not do your dvd stuff on 12.04 [09:05] and file a bug report of whats broken in 13 whatever it dont work with [09:05] so the next release is fixed and maybe even you will get a work aroung for the release it dont work on [09:06] work around [09:06] I don't have a 12.04 at home Kilos [09:06] install one alongside man [09:06] I never do that [09:07] I have a very specific and partition layout and 2nd os will mess that up lol [09:07] And I never been a fan of the dual boot thing [09:07] i run 12.04 kde unity and 10.10 on one pc with option where to boot from [09:07] BUT...if I can get another usb hdd I will install to that [09:07] but each on its own drive [09:08] I used to that some time ago , but it got to complicated to go change the bios order every time and remember what drive is what [09:08] no man its simple [09:08] you get the choice in grub menu [09:09] But is nice idea , will check if I can find a 2.5" external somewhere [09:09] get the most important one to boot first then run sudo update-grub from it [09:10] hi there drussell [09:11] With current internal that will be to big job. Will have re-partition the whole drive and one is 1.5tb with data on it :( [09:11] Will be easier to just install to a external and plug in when needed [09:16] But...then again....my backups run every night including the big data partition. So don't have much to backup , just a lot to put back..hmmm [09:18] hmm... [09:19] Ag nee man oom Kilos , jy gee my idees nou en dis baie werk man :-) [09:19] haha [09:20] werk is goed. hou jou uit die moeilikhead [09:20] Ek het te veel werk alreeds [09:22] En ek is soet seun , maakie moeilikheid nie hehehehe [09:22] hehe [09:23] * drussell waves to Kilos [09:28] i might disappear, gonna plug in router [09:30] yay [09:39] Superhuman, it killed internet again so i purged iptables gufw and ufw now it dont kill 3g anymore [09:40] now just gotta set pc as gateway to the stars [09:41] anytime, no rush at all [09:48] Kilos can you remember where you set the gateway last time? [09:49] last time i set it in nm with the same ip as my pc [09:49] nm wired eth0 edit [09:49] then 1pv4\ [09:49] ipv4 [09:50] just dunno what to put in there this time [10:03] let me check [10:08] in nm did you set the ipv4 settings to manual? [10:08] yes otherwise they dont give you options [10:10] are you on automatic/dhcp at the moment? [10:10] ive tried that [10:11] what is it set at right now? [10:11] no manual [10:12] and dns servers i put in 8.8.8.8 [10:18] would be easier if i could just get the router to see the arab modem [10:19] but then dunno how ill iftop it [10:20] im bang to fiddle in its settings [10:20] what ip address do you get for ifconfig [10:21] i used this command to set it [10:21] sudo ip addr add 192.168.1.1/24 dev eth0 [10:21] ifconfig gives me [10:22] inet addr:192.168.1.1 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 [10:22] your router will be on 192.168.1.254 [10:22] okay then the everything except the the gateway is set then Kilos? [10:22] ya i can get to it with browser [10:23] i put my ip in gateway too now [10:24] maybe there is a command for setting gateway [10:24] Kilos: just remember, using `ip addr` to set your IP will only work until you restart [10:24] not sure if nm is so good [10:24] you want to set your default gateway on the command line? [10:25] will it remember it if its cli [10:25] no [10:25] Setting route via command line: sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1 && netstat -rn [10:25] netstat -rn give you your routing table. [10:26] nm didnt work with ip addy yesterday we had to use command line [10:26] Kilos: you can set it on cli and it will work. but it will only work until restart [10:27] Superhuman: could Kilos not set the gateway and such on the router? [10:27] I'd think you'd have to [10:27] if he sets up dhcp on the router (or the pc), one of the settings is the default gateway to use. Which every dhcp host then gets. [10:28] ok [10:28] the router doesn't need to connect to the pc, it is basically acting as a normal router, it doesn't need internet connection (unless you update firmware) [10:29] wifi routers (not modems) are just normal routers with little more setup. [10:29] i was thinking for the rest of the network devices, if they try to use the router as the gateway automatically they would fail to get internet [10:30] yes, they would [10:34] ahh okay i understand, so the router will get the default gateway from the pc [10:37] oh my [10:38] one of those last commands killed 3g connection again even thought it still showed connected [10:39] ill try connect router again and see what happens [10:39] Maaz, hi [10:39] * Maaz waves to Kilos [10:39] Kilos, the gateway doesn't need to be set on the pc, since it is the gateway. Only non-gateway devices need to be set. [10:39] yay [10:40] Maaz: beer [10:40] Superhuman: Sorry... [10:40] damnit...who drinks all the beers? [10:40] too early for beer [10:40] Never too early! [10:41] Maaz, beer [10:41] hmm... Kilos look in the fridge [10:41] he knows i dont drink [10:41] whiskey tango foxtrot! [10:42] discrimination!! [10:42] hehe [10:42] * Kilos throws a beer to Superhuman [10:46] it is all in the punctuation, which most definately is important [10:46] lo [10:47] Maaz, botsnack [10:47] thanks, Kilos [10:51] Maaz: beer [10:51] Squirm look in the fridge my friend [10:51] Maaz: botsnack [10:51] Thank you thank you, munch munch chomp chomp [10:56] maybe i gotta use these commands like with server back then [10:56] iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW ! -i ppp+ -j ACCEPT [10:56] iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp+ -j MASQUERADE [10:57] gotta remaster [10:57] l8tr all [11:01] oh iptables is purged === Spaceghost is now known as Guest12219 [11:17] hi psyatw [11:50] eeek 799 peeps on #android [11:50] nosy ThatGraemeGuy ? [11:51] hehe [11:51] yeah [11:51] 799 idlers [11:51] i hope thats the right place to ask for help [11:52] with? [11:53] ive just stated the prob there [11:54] i have a problem trying to install android-x86 to my intel pc [11:54] it gets to "detecting android-x86 and prints pages of .......... [11:54] doesnt even get to partitioning [11:54] ah [11:56] if it actually installed it could be good for older pcs because its only 186meg [11:57] i don't think android apps translate very well to a kb/mouse interface [11:57] i tried it in virtualbox, it's clunky [11:58] i think its trying to detect an android device to install to which is wrong if its an iso for pcs [11:58] and a large percentage of my apps in the play store were not installable for whatever reason [11:58] eish [11:58] its pretty much a toy project in its current state [11:59] maybe one needs to find the dev channel on irc [12:00] #android-dev is for app development [12:00] #android-root - for discussion related to off-label uses of hardware [12:00] ? [12:01] To communicate with us real-time, join the irc channel #android-x86 at irc.freenode.net. [12:01] now i'm no genius, but ..... [12:01] ;-) [12:01] well done [12:04] maybe they are all in the states [12:05] hah [12:06] the stupid thing must look for a hdd not android [12:09] what was that about a craftsman blaming their tools? [12:10] how can it look for android? it is android o_O [12:35] yeah stupid hey [12:35] pointed at the wrong thing [12:58] oh my even maaz split [12:58] and most of the android peeps [12:58] must be a prob in the states [13:30] whew [13:31] yeah welcome back from me too === Guest12219 is now known as Spaceghost === space is now known as Guest94778 [14:25] hmm... and what do we have here? [14:25] what is wrong with freenode today? === inetpro_ is now known as inetpro [14:32] later all home time [14:32] k magespawn [14:33] -mquin- [Global Notice] As you've probably observed, we're experiencing a bit of network disruption. Please bear with us while we look into it. [14:38] -tomaw- [Global notice] Quick services restart incoming... [14:39] hi georgelappies [14:39] yo JoTraGo [14:39] ai! [14:39] hi Kilos, how are you diong [14:40] doing oops [14:40] good ty and you [14:40] good thanks [14:40] als bietjie siek vandag inetpro [14:45] Kilos: duidelik [15:01] ThatGraemeGuy, looks like i will first have to install the plop thing [15:01] http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=86514&sid=b293ac1a004cc7772ec019b11a055b13 [15:02] plop boot-manager [15:42] Oom Kilos , I found and external and wanted to put 12.04 on , but now my iso isn't working :-( [15:42] aw [15:43] Burning an older iso now I still have in my backups [15:43] Hope that works [15:43] why not mazal [15:43] Just show a grey screen [15:43] eish [15:43] So is obviously another graphics thing [15:43] yip [15:43] Ubuntu and it's graphics issues *sigh* [15:44] hehe [15:44] I hope my old iso works [15:44] Not gonna do a complete new one [15:44] Way too much time and data [15:44] if it doesnt put the old card back [15:44] No way , then my 13.04 is broken [15:45] no man just till you have 12.04 installed with the correct drivers [15:45] Nou praat oom van BAIE werk [15:45] haha [15:45] Net om 1 program te laat werk [15:45] I don't think so [15:46] ek het n gigabyte pc wat so is [15:47] 7 werk op een kaart en ubuntu op n ander ene [15:47] These screen guys need to sort out their stuff [15:47] Always graphics issues [15:47] yeah the all linuxes probs [15:48] Is the first time ever that a remaster iso fail on any pc I use [15:48] Weird part is , graphics drivers isn't included in the iso [15:49] So it might be a 12.04 thing with this new Nvidia card of mine [15:49] Last time I used 12.04 it was an ATI [15:49] ya once installed you type additional in dash and it will find the right driver [15:50] And how to install if you can't see anything lol [15:50] Ok , older iso burned. Rebooting , wish me luck :P [15:50] good luck [15:54] Nope , same thing [15:54] eish [15:54] Oh well , good bye 12.04 and dvdstyler [15:54] just change cards [15:54] No that is way too much work just for one app [15:54] Not worth it [15:54] lol [15:56] Wat gaan ek nou met die external maak [15:56] Het hom spesiaal diep uit 'n boks uitgekrap :-( [15:57] hehe [15:57] epos hom na my [16:03] Aaaaah ek weet ! [16:04] Ek gaan my huidige Ubu op hom install as 'n "recovery os" om in myne se data in te kom in case of emergency === mazal is now known as mazal_recovery [16:43] It works nicely :-) [16:43] Oom Kilos , I have a question [16:43] lekker [16:43] ya [16:44] Ok so now I am on my external drive ne [16:44] ja [16:44] During install I chose to install grub direct to it (sdb) [16:44] you are on it now [16:44] That's how I want it , I choose it first in BIOS when wanting to boot to it [16:45] Don't want to mess with sda main drive [16:45] so now do sudo update-grub [16:45] Now , when I am on it like now [16:45] Currently it is sharp [16:45] it should give you the boot options in grub menu [16:46] But what happens when there is an Kernel update , are the updater gonna install the new grub to sdb (the current drive I am on) or is it gonna install it to sda and mess with that ? [16:46] Will the updater automatically see I am on sdb and update sdb's grub ? [16:46] you have to choose which drive to boot from then do update from that drive [16:47] each one does its own updates that way [16:48] they dont interfere with each other here [16:48]