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| === Guest36221 is now known as sevenhill | ||
| sevenhill | Hello everyone | 04:41 |
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| sevenhill | i have noticed a bug about softwarecenter.db.update , is there any devel of it here now ? | 04:42 |
| wilee-nilee | sevenhill, never seen one on the channel, not sure they would admit that here. ;) | 04:47 |
| sevenhill | :) then i will shot it here any maybe an undercover devel will note it :) | 04:49 |
| wilee-nilee | sevenhill, YOu can file a bug. | 04:50 |
| sevenhill | what is the exact package name for softwarecenter.db.update ? ( to use it via ubuntu-bug app ? ) | 04:51 |
| sevenhill | softwarecenter.db.update couldn't read .desktop files if it has : inside its name | 04:53 |
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| === Trewas666 is now known as Trewas | ||
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 10:24 |
| penguin42 | Hey BK | 10:26 |
| BluesKaj | hi penguin42 | 10:27 |
| mikeos | Running KDE 4.10.90 on top of Saucy nighlty and there is no akonadi google resource; i read that since KDE 4.9 these resources are part of kdepim. Any clue? | 18:06 |
| Buzzsaws | good morning | 19:52 |
| Buzzsaws | is it normal radeo HDMI doesnt work? | 19:53 |
| Buzzsaws | is this a feature? | 19:53 |
| Daekdroom | Are you talking about audio? | 19:54 |
| holstein | hdmi is pretty hit and miss in general | 19:54 |
| Daekdroom | It works for me (R). Although after enabling the audio (it's disabled by default), it still didn't work for awhile. | 19:55 |
| holstein | i dont have a lot of the hardware to experiment with | 19:55 |
| penguin42 | Buzzsaws: Running radeon hdmi here | 19:55 |
| Buzzsaws | fascinating | 19:56 |
| penguin42 | Buzzsaws: hd4350 I've got one display on HDMI, one on DVI | 19:56 |
| Buzzsaws | a 5450 PCI? | 19:56 |
| penguin42 | no, 4350 here - I'm on the open driver and running KDE | 19:56 |
| Buzzsaws | i run mate, but this doenst natter | 19:56 |
| Daekdroom | I have a 5450 PCI-E and it works with DVI-I and HDMI at the same time. | 19:56 |
| Daekdroom | on the open source driver. | 19:57 |
| Buzzsaws | i use the knerd 3.10 | 19:57 |
| penguin42 | Buzzsaws: OK, open driver or closed? And what doesn't work ? completely blank? | 19:57 |
| Buzzsaws | saucy salami | 19:57 |
| Buzzsaws | gfx works, it also shows audio | 19:57 |
| Buzzsaws | on pulse-audio or aplay | 19:57 |
| penguin42 | yeh, saucy here | 19:57 |
| Buzzsaws | but it doesnt' play any audio | 19:58 |
| penguin42 | oh, audio - not tried audio - it does show up in the audio config on KDE but my HDMI monitor doesn't have speakers | 19:58 |
| Daekdroom | Like I said, hdmi audio is disabled by default. | 19:58 |
| Buzzsaws | i don't know whats wrong with sausage salami, my monitor doens't even show me audio settings | 19:58 |
| holstein | Buzzsaws: try pavucontrol | 19:59 |
| Buzzsaws | i tried aplay and stuff | 19:59 |
| Daekdroom | You have to set radeon.audio=1 as a kernel parameter. | 19:59 |
| Daekdroom | Did you do that? | 19:59 |
| Buzzsaws | no | 19:59 |
| penguin42 | oh god, I'm going to be thinking of this release as sausage now... | 19:59 |
| Daekdroom | Then do it. | 19:59 |
| penguin42 | Daekdroom: Curious, I didn't do that and it's showing up as an audio device | 19:59 |
| Buzzsaws | thats not necessary according to kernel 3.10 develdopers | 19:59 |
| Daekdroom | Is it not? | 19:59 |
| Daekdroom | They finally enabled it? | 19:59 |
| Buzzsaws | i heard they fixed that or something | 19:59 |
| penguin42 | Buzzsaws: If you do cat /proc/asound/cards does it show HDMI ? | 19:59 |
| Buzzsaws | yeah my cat meows | 20:00 |
| Buzzsaws | nah | 20:01 |
| Buzzsaws | it does show two devices | 20:01 |
| Buzzsaws | at irq48 | 20:01 |
| Buzzsaws | let me see where irq48 is | 20:01 |
| penguin42 | Buzzsaws: Why not put it in a pastebin? | 20:02 |
| penguin42 | Daekdroom: I'm curious about the thing about having to enable it, my radeon has been claiming to show radeon audio for years | 20:02 |
| Daekdroom | penguin42, HDMI audio was disabled for several kernel releases (and I think it - might - be enabled in 3.11) because it was making the cards not work for some people that didn't even use HDMI audio. | 20:03 |
| Buzzsaws | yeah it seems to be its the radeon on irq48 | 20:03 |
| Buzzsaws | aplay doens't work | 20:04 |
| penguin42 | Daekdroom: Hmph, I've never seen it go on my hd4350 - always shows up in annoying places | 20:04 |
| penguin42 | Buzzsaws: Can you pastebin your /proc/asound/cards | 20:04 |
| Daekdroom | penguin42, before I did the parameter thing, it showed as a alsa device, but not under pulseaudio settings. | 20:04 |
| Buzzsaws | yes i pastebin it | 20:04 |
| penguin42 | huh that confuses me even more | 20:04 |
| penguin42 | Buzzsaws: where? | 20:04 |
| Daekdroom | penguin42, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQwNDY | 20:05 |
| Daekdroom | " | 20:05 |
| Daekdroom | So if all goes well for the Linux 3.11 kernel cycle, it looks like AMD may re-enable "out of the box" HDMI audio support, which could then happen for Linux 3.12. For now, Radeon HDMI audio users will need to keep set radeon.audio=1 for having this basic but important feature." | 20:05 |
| Buzzsaws | http://pastebin.com/pxH4XdJn | 20:05 |
| penguin42 | Daekdroom: Maybe it was different on HD4350 - I've had it showing up for years, enough to be annoying a couple of years ago when KDE would default to it instead of the onboard | 20:06 |
| Buzzsaws | this message was on phoronix in april 13 | 20:06 |
| Daekdroom | Odd. | 20:07 |
| Buzzsaws | hmm the knerd 311 takes a lot of itme | 20:07 |
| penguin42 | Buzzsaws: I'd try that param that Daekdroom suggests | 20:07 |
| Buzzsaws | those gorg parameter, yeah i hope the gorgs accept the kernel parameter at start | 20:08 |
| penguin42 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5850820/ is my parameter | 20:08 |
| penguin42 | beep - is my asound data | 20:08 |
| Buzzsaws | http://pastebin.com/hv06yW0J | 20:10 |
| Buzzsaws | very strange issue | 20:12 |
| Buzzsaws | it shouldn't be an issue if the card is only PCI the adressing is the same way | 20:13 |
| penguin42 | Buzzsaws: When you say PCI you really do mean just PCI don't you? That's pretty rare | 20:13 |
| Buzzsaws | i am using a pci gfx card, its a server | 20:13 |
| penguin42 | ah | 20:13 |
| Daekdroom | Whenever I see a PCI card getting released these days, I think "that should be the last model ever" and am proven wrong. | 20:14 |
| penguin42 | PCI graphics cards are pretty rare - can't remember the last time I saw a moden one | 20:14 |
| penguin42 | finding one with HDMI is pretty impressive | 20:14 |
| Buzzsaws | i need my pcie slots for SAS cards the server audio is only for some alert massages | 20:14 |
| Buzzsaws | its a modern pci card, this card is dedicated for hdpc and such stuff | 20:14 |
| penguin42 | a beeper not good enough for you? | 20:15 |
| Buzzsaws | its only 66MHz PCI but thats fast enough for 2D stuff | 20:15 |
| Buzzsaws | the beeper is in another room | 20:15 |
| penguin42 | that's a luxury! | 20:15 |
| Buzzsaws | the hdmi wire goes from the chellar to bureaucracy room | 20:15 |
| penguin42 | has some old Matrox cards that work on old obscure/embedded machines | 20:16 |
| penguin42 | Buzzsaws: OK, so does it show up in pulse? | 20:16 |
| Buzzsaws | yes | 20:16 |
| Buzzsaws | is this pulse utility a gui? | 20:17 |
| penguin42 | there are gui and command line; pactl list sinks should tell you | 20:17 |
| Buzzsaws | ok i run now pavucontrol | 20:21 |
| Buzzsaws | and set hdmi out as out | 20:21 |
| Buzzsaws | is there something to reduce the power consumption (kernel parameter or something) to put the card in energy saving state if not used? | 20:21 |
| Daekdroom | Buzzsaws, http://wiki.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/#index3h2 | 20:22 |
| Daekdroom | You'd have to set it manually, unless you tolerate flickering. | 20:22 |
| Daekdroom | (perhaps a script to change it for you?) | 20:22 |
| Buzzsaws | a script that starts if screensaver starts | 20:23 |
| Buzzsaws | ? | 20:23 |
| Daekdroom | Possibly. | 20:23 |
| penguin42 | I thought there was a fix that *just* went in | 20:23 |
| Daekdroom | Yeah, in 3.11, but not on by default. | 20:24 |
| Buzzsaws | the card consumes 15w, maybe it could be reduced to 3w if the card sleeps | 20:24 |
| * penguin42 wonders why a card would take 3w when doing nothing | 20:25 | |
| Buzzsaws | because ramdac and stuff is still working | 20:25 |
| Buzzsaws | memory refresh, and other things | 20:25 |
| penguin42 | oh, right I guess should be less in blank | 20:25 |
| Buzzsaws | so dynpwm or something | 20:26 |
| Buzzsaws | if i got i915 do i need those i915 kernel on ppa? other computer has some issues with xorg sometime | 20:39 |
| Buzzsaws | hi | 22:50 |
| penguin42 | hey | 22:51 |
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