[08:51] <bashrc> Jeri Ellsworth on Valve and Augmented Reality games http://cf.jenesee.com/pcasts/2013-July/Episode_101.mp3
[09:03] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[09:07] <MartijnVdS> good morning brobostigon
[09:07] <brobostigon> good morning MartijnVdS
[09:07]  * MartijnVdS is playing with radius and wpa again
[09:08] <brobostigon> :)
[09:09] <MartijnVdS> and it seems to be working \o/
[09:10] <brobostigon> woop
[09:10] <MartijnVdS> except it's PEAP and MSCHAPv2 which is known to be h4x0rable
[09:10] <MartijnVdS> oh
[09:11] <MartijnVdS> PEAP might be OK for now
[09:12] <MartijnVdS> ah.. only if I create my own cert and verify it on the client
[10:02]  * DJones settles down in front of the tv to see whether the Lions can eat the Wallabies
[11:35] <MartijnVdS> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/07/bbc-realizes-the-obvious-puts-3d-plans-on-hold/
[11:35] <MartijnVdS> \o/ Ars headlines :)
[11:54] <DJones> Ah well, I think I can safely say "Well done Lions"
[15:31]  * penguin42 giggles at the patchset someone has just sent to X of 'remove CRAY support'
[16:33] <popey> evening
[16:33] <MartijnVdS> \o popey
[16:33] <popey> MartijnVdS: how do we play l4d2 together?
[16:33] <popey> and does it do voice and stuff?
[16:34] <MartijnVdS> popey: uhh.. I don't have a microphone on that machine, so I don't think we get that
[16:34] <popey> ok
[16:34] <popey> i was playing a game the other day and could hear my own speech echoing back to me from another player
[16:34] <MartijnVdS> popey: I can probably invite you, or you me.. from somewhere in the menus
[16:34] <MartijnVdS> let me check
[16:35]  * popey opens it
[16:35]  * penguin42 is watching the Doug Engelbart mouse Demo from 1968; mouse, menu system, a few line drawings - but all uppercase characters
[16:36] <MartijnVdS> popey: you can
[16:36]  * popey reboots
[16:36] <MartijnVdS> "join a friend's game" in campaign mode
[16:40] <MartijnVdS> popey: it seems you need to accept my friend request first :)
[16:40] <MartijnVdS> Anyone else joining L4D2? :)
[16:46] <MartijnVdS> popey: bad reboot? :)
[16:47] <popey> gheh
[16:47] <popey> accepted
[17:07] <mgdm> penguin42: your point being?
[17:09] <penguin42> mgdm: Oh just that it's odd the order technology moves; you get lots of neat stuff but no lower case characters yet
[17:09] <mgdm> Heh
[17:37] <slvr> graphics are totally more exciting to build than lower case letters
[17:37] <slvr> the latter seems so trivial one wishes someone else do the work
[17:42] <penguin42> slvr: Haha possible; it looks in http://sloan.stanford.edu/mousesite/1968Demo.html#complete as if they're using overlining to represent upper case
[17:52] <slvr> (In other news Visual Studio 2013 is returning to ALL CAPS MENUS)
[17:52] <mgdm> yeah, a guy at work is using it
[17:52] <mgdm> dark theme + all caps = looks like my Fluxbox desktop from 2003
[17:54] <bashrc> Does anyone actually use Visual Studio?
[17:54] <mgdm> Yes, clearly
[17:54] <bashrc> There are so many programming tools on linux
[17:54] <mgdm> all those WIndows apps, Windows Phone apps, XBox apps don't write themselves
[17:59]  * MartijnVdS returns from the zombie hunt
[17:59] <penguin42> do you have many around there?
[18:00] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: l4d2 has LOADS of zombies
[18:11] <popey>  MartijnVdS that was fun
[18:11] <MartijnVdS> it was :)
[18:11] <popey> MartijnVdS: kids came in and wanted a water fight, l4d2 got me psyched up for it ☻
[18:12] <MartijnVdS> popey: ZOMBIES 8-)
[19:58] <brobostigon> QI XL, bbc2 :)
[23:37] <constrictor> any django developers here, who have used mongoengine?