[06:18] <Kilos> morning all
[06:20] <mazal> More oom
[06:20] <mazal> Morning all
[06:21] <mazal> Anybody know of a good litte indicator app that displays info on hdd. Size , space used , space left ?
[06:24] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[06:25] <Kilos> disk usage analyser?
[06:25] <mazal> I want something that runs permanently
[06:26] <mazal> Like a little indicator app
[06:26] <Kilos> what does google say
[06:27] <Kilos> Maaz, google disk usage indicator on ubuntu
[06:27] <Maaz> Kilos: "What Application Indicators are available? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available :: "indicator - disk usage statistics tools - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/296911/disk-usage-statistics-tools :: "10 Awesome Indicator Applets for Ubuntu's Unity Desktop" http://www.howtogeek.com/118908/10
[06:27] <Maaz> -awesome-indicator-applets-for-ubuntus-unity-desktop/ :: "10 Useful Application Indicators fo…
[06:27] <mazal> So far only ones that shows activity like indicator-multiload for example
[06:28] <Kilos> Maaz, google 10 Awesome Indicator Applets for Ubuntu's Unity Desktop
[06:28] <Maaz> Kilos: "10 Awesome Indicator Applets for Ubuntu's Unity Desktop" http://www.howtogeek.com/118908/10-awesome-indicator-applets-for-ubuntus-unity-desktop/ :: "10 Awesome Indicator Applets for Ubuntu's Unity Desktop | Ubuntu ..." http://www.ubuntu-news.net/2012/07/17/10-awesome-indicator-applets-for-ubuntus-unity-desktop/ :: "Top 10 Ubuntu 11.04 Unity Panel Applets -
[06:28] <Maaz> Softpedia News" http://news.softpedia.com/news/Top-10-Ubuntu-11-04-Unity-Panel-Applets-20…
[06:29] <Kilos> isnt there one in that ten
[06:29] <mazal> Going through them now
[06:30] <Kilos> i dunno if peeps worry about things like that with all the big drives available
[06:33] <mazal> My / partition not that big , like to keep an eye on it
[06:34] <Kilos> size?
[06:34] <mazal> I wonder if a simple script using df -h > sometextfile.txt that runs with cron will work
[06:34] <mazal> Then just needs to remember to check the file regularly lol
[06:36] <mazal> If I could figure out a way to mail the file to myself that would be nice
[06:37] <Kilos> hehe
[06:42] <mazal> Sharp , got it in cron to run every evening , now how to get it to mail that file to myself ?
[06:42] <Kilos> whew you clever hey
[06:43] <Kilos> why you ask me for help
[06:43] <mazal> Nah , I'm not clever lol
[06:43] <mazal> That command just struck me as we used it a while back on our server
[06:45] <mazal> Now I need a really nice idea how to make that file draw my attention and not forget about it
[06:46] <Kilos> haha
[06:51] <mazal> How about adding a command for gedit to open the file when it's created ?
[06:51] <mazal> Then in theory it should just pop up
[06:57] <mazal> sharp , it works. Now will just wait and see when cron runs it if it also works then
[07:12] <magespawn> good morning all
[07:13] <magespawn> mazal can you put all the scripting you use to do all that up on a pastebin or something, i would appreciate it.
[07:13] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[07:14] <magespawn> how are things this saturday Kilos ?
[07:15] <Kilos> ok ty magespawn android be stupid, it cant see a formatted ide drive
[07:16] <magespawn> do they list any restictions on the website?
[07:17] <Kilos> found one that says you must first boot from another os poppy or something and use that insatller
[07:17] <Kilos> plop
[07:17] <Kilos> ? i forget
[07:18] <magespawn> well that could also explain why the iso is small, it might need the underlying os to run
[07:19] <Kilos> it looks for some android drive to install to
[07:20] <Kilos> if i boot from the live cd and plug in a stick with android on it sees it immediately
[07:20] <Kilos> but not the hdd
[07:20] <magespawn> you cant copy the android to the harddrive?
[07:21] <Kilos> im thinking of connecting the drive here through usb adapter and putting it on there with unetbootin
[07:21] <Kilos> nope i tried 
[07:22] <magespawn> you can try running it from the usb if you want, i have done that with ubuntu
[07:22] <Kilos> ill find a way around it. just takes lotsa time
[07:22] <Kilos> ya but i dont wanna mess here too much
[07:23] <Kilos> want android apart on other pc
[07:23] <Kilos> got a 40g drive ill use
[07:23] <magespawn> ahh well, we wouldn't want life to be too easy now would we
[07:23] <Kilos> hahaha
[07:24] <mazal> Morning magespawn 
[07:24] <mazal> It's so short I can paste here
[07:24] <mazal> Just 2 command
[07:24] <mazal> sssssssssssss
[07:24] <mazal> commandssssssssssssssssssssss
[07:25] <mazal> Shees I spell terrible :P
[07:25] <magespawn> coop mazal 
[07:25] <magespawn> lol
[07:25] <magespawn> or type terrible
[07:25] <mazal> That to
[07:25] <mazal> tooooo ai !!
[07:26] <mazal> executable sh file
[07:26] <mazal> !#/bin/bash
[07:26] <Kilos> you okes must go back to school and get your parents money back
[07:26] <mazal> df -h > /home/diskusage,txt
[07:27] <mazal> dot sot txt ag nee man
[07:27] <mazal> df -h > /home/diskusage.txt
[07:27] <mazal> ish
[07:27] <mazal> grrrrrrrrrrrr neee
[07:27] <mazal> let me start AGAIN
[07:27] <mazal> Wat gaan vanmore
[07:27] <mazal> #!/bin/bash
[07:28] <mazal> df -h /home/mazal/diskusage.txt
[07:28] <mazal> gedit /home/mazal/diskusage.txt
[07:28] <mazal> then just add the file to be executed by cron in your crontab for when suits you
[07:28] <magespawn> cool ty
[07:28] <mazal> neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[07:29] <mazal> second one still wrong
[07:29] <magespawn> now what?
[07:29] <magespawn> lol
[07:29] <mazal> df -h > /home/mazal/diskusage.txt
[07:29] <mazal> shorted the >
[07:29] <mazal> So it's
[07:29] <mazal> #!/bin/bash
[07:29] <mazal> df -h > /home/mazal/diskusage.txt
[07:30] <mazal> gedit /home/mazal/diskusage.txt
[07:30] <mazal> yay !!! :-)
[07:30] <Kilos> dont you copy/paste mazal 
[07:30] <Kilos> helps lots for spelling mistakes
[07:30] <mazal> Kilos, if I knew I'm gonna type this bad this morning I would have :)
[07:30] <Kilos> lol
[07:31] <mazal> Started last night actually
[07:31] <mazal> Too much what's app me thinks
[07:35] <Kilos> eish i looked at getting whatsapp for here but major job that
[07:36] <Kilos> all the android stuff to install
[07:36] <magespawn> i still tend to try and type properly even with sms style communication
[07:36] <magespawn> if you are going to try and run android anyway, maybe it would work then Kilos
[07:38] <Kilos> yeah ill get it working on other pc sometime then share 3g and use it that way
[07:38] <Kilos> dont wanna mess my buntus
[07:38] <magespawn> mazal i am going to use the script on my laptop only has a 20gig harddrive
[07:38] <magespawn> nice idea Kilos
[07:38] <magespawn> have one or two installs/pc for communication
[07:40] <Kilos> i will first look into what all android can do. that other pc i use for messing with stuff
[07:40] <Kilos> but with whatsapp it already has an advantage
[07:41] <magespawn> i think that is a very cool way to do it
[07:42] <Kilos> i read so much stuff my head is still spinning
[07:42] <Kilos> it seems it sees uefi drives not mbr drives
[07:42] <Kilos> till one has some android stuff there anyway
[07:43] <Squirm[M]> Morning 
[07:43] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[07:43] <magespawn> hi Squirm[M]
[07:45] <mazal> Morning Squirm[M] 
[07:46] <mazal> Anybody know what ubuntu-geoip does and how important it is ?
[07:49] <mazal> Looks like it's something that resolved incoming ip's to country names
[07:56] <magespawn> no idea mazal
[07:57] <mazal> I found some info , it tells php from which country a visitor is so you can create multi language web sites.
[07:57] <mazal> Now I wonder why is it on my pc. Needs to be on a server
[07:58] <magespawn> localised for each visitor
[07:58] <mazal> Every startup I get the "Ubuntu experienced a critical error" and that app is the cause
[07:58] <magespawn> do they do that by ip or by pulling info from the users pc and/or browser
[07:58] <Squirm[M]> it'll be IP
[07:59] <mazal> By ip , didn't read much. But it seems there is a ip database you add and configure for it
[07:59] <magespawn> if that is all it is doing then it should be safe to remove
[07:59] <Squirm[M]> It's possible to determine which ip is assigned in which country
[07:59] <magespawn> doesn't always work too well though
[08:00] <Squirm[M]> If you google an address, you could even find it
[08:00] <mazal> Gonna remove it
[08:00] <mazal> Hope I don't break anything
[08:00] <magespawn> at one stage whenever i used my cell c the sites thought i was in west africa somewhere
[08:00] <magespawn> one way to find out
[08:02] <mazal> It works with geoclue it seems
[08:02] <mazal> I wonder if any of my apps are using this
[08:03] <mazal> " GeoClue provides applications access to various geographical information
[08:03] <mazal> sources using a D-Bus API or a C library.
[08:03] <mazal> This package provides a positioning backend for GeoClue.
[08:03] <mazal> It uses the IP geolocation database (http://geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup)"
[08:20] <Kilos> hi AndChat-503424 
[08:20] <Kilos> magespawn, inetbootin dont see a hdd in a usb bridge
[08:21]  * Kilos cries
[08:22] <Kilos> haha its you Squirm 
[08:24] <Kilos> it wants to see usb flash not a hdd on a bridge
[08:30] <Squirm> meh
[08:30] <Squirm> went out onto the field, so wifi was on and off
[08:31] <Squirm> crashed my R/C plane :/
[08:31] <Squirm> apoxy should work though
[08:31] <Squirm> I'm annoyed
[08:31] <Kilos> ouch, damaged?
[08:32] <Kilos> bad?
[08:32] <Squirm> doesn't seem that bad
[08:32] <Squirm> like I said, apoxy should work
[08:32] <Squirm> ...I hope
[08:33] <Kilos> eish
[08:33] <Kilos> go win that chopper and nexus 
[08:33] <Kilos> you have the chopper ill have the nexus
[08:39] <Squirm> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-r0gtkzUiGJs/UWbAduPS5zI/AAAAAAAAAVc/cN_37sGlMCE/w872-h654-no/20130327_170810.jpg
[08:46] <Kilos> hmm...
[08:46] <Kilos> hate it when using usbs it kills my 3g
[08:56]  * mazal fiddles
[08:56] <Kilos> hmm... installing from 2g flash onto a 4g flash
[08:58] <Kilos> failed to create data.image
[08:58] <Kilos> grrr
[08:58] <mazal> You installing Ubuntu to a flash drive Kilos ?
[08:58] <Kilos> no android-x86
[08:59] <Kilos> trying anyway
[08:59] <Kilos> eish now it says warning--not an asus product
[08:59] <Kilos> sigh
[09:00] <mazal> Sounds challenging
[09:00] <Kilos> yeah
[09:01] <Kilos> 3 days struggling
[09:01] <mazal> I'm in the mood for something new on that spare partition , but dunno what
[09:01] <mazal> Used K , X and L before. Want to play with something else
[09:01] <Kilos> try android for pc
[09:01] <Kilos> hehe
[09:01] <mazal> Nooooooooo
[09:02] <mazal> Ek willie sukkel nie , ek wil speel :)
[09:02] <Kilos> lol
[09:03] <Kilos> ill work it out then tell you how
[09:03] <mazal> Do they give it for free ?
[09:03] <Kilos> ya its linux
[09:04] <mazal> Then why did so many phone manufacturers blame their high prices on " Cos it has Android "
[09:04] <Kilos> maybe the further developement or just because peeps are money mad
[09:04] <magespawn> android as far as i know has always been foss
[09:05] <magespawn> they do not need to develope it any further, they get a os that they customise to their hardware for nothing
[09:05] <mazal> Gmf , just shows you 
[09:06] <mazal> Is it this site Kilos http://www.android-x86.org/ ?
[09:06] <Kilos> sec ill look
[09:06] <Kilos> actually wait 
[09:08] <Kilos> i had a page with lotsa info and links
[09:08] <mazal> LOL I love yhis statement on that site " If you are lucky, the installation will begin, and you will see the progress bar. "
[09:09] <mazal> Oops I see it can't install on a drive with another os
[09:09] <Kilos> ya they say it can
[09:09] <mazal> Or yes you can , but then have to add them manually in grub
[09:11] <mazal> Hmm , this will be nice toy for a seperate hard drive. Or stick like you are doing
[09:12] <Kilos> this was one place i looked
[09:12] <Kilos> for if it dont see hdd
[09:12] <Kilos> http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=86514&sid=b293ac1a004cc7772ec019b11a055b13
[09:13] <mazal> It looks like it only supports certain laptops and motherboards though
[09:13] <mazal> The iso's even contain the manufacturer names
[09:13] <Kilos> it seems to love usb goodies
[09:14] <Kilos> there is a smaller iso that dont have the asus in
[09:14] <Kilos> 76m or something
[09:14] <Kilos> the asus one is 186m
[09:16] <Kilos> let me know if you find one without a manufacturers name in
[09:18] <mazal> I found one , but it's in the development section
[09:19] <mazal> android-x86-4.2-20130228.iso
[09:19] <Kilos> size?
[09:19] <mazal> Found that one
[09:19] <mazal> Dunno if it means anything to you
[09:20] <mazal> 196mb
[09:20] <Kilos> ya no manufacturers name in
[09:20] <Kilos> ill get it tonight if i can stay awake ty
[09:20] <Kilos> whats the link
[09:20] <mazal> https://android-x86.googlecode.com/files/android-x86-4.2-20130228.iso
[09:21] <Kilos> ty
[09:21] <mazal> I just saw it's the same link the guy in that post you refered has
[09:21] <magespawn> maybe you need a generic 
[09:22] <Kilos> whats that
[09:22] <mazal> I'm downloading it and gonna boot it live cd and see what happens
[09:23] <Kilos> ok
[09:23] <mazal> You get error complaining about manufacturer ne ?
[09:23] <magespawn> well i would assume the ones with a manufacturers name in it has been customised for those machines
[09:24] <Kilos> we need to find a plain one
[09:25] <Kilos> might even work if you have a touch screeen
[09:32] <mazal> We'll see what this dev one does
[09:33] <mazal> My pc mos seems very tempremental
[09:33] <Kilos> http://code.google.com/p/android-x86/downloads/
[09:33] <Kilos> whats that
[09:33] <Kilos> maybe there is one not specific to any pc make
[09:33] <mazal> That's where that one is lying that I gave you the link off
[09:34] <mazal> And description just say " live and installation "
[09:34] <mazal> Doesn't mention a manufacturer
[09:34] <Kilos> eish we gotta find one not for asus
[09:34] <mazal> Hang on oom , that one is downloading here
[09:35] <Kilos> ok
[09:35] <mazal> ETA 17 min , then gonna burn and boot
[09:40] <Kilos> lets hope
[09:43] <Kilos> the asus one is just a waste of dat
[09:43] <Kilos> grrr
[09:43] <mazal> 7min
[09:51] <mazal> burning
[09:51] <Kilos> hmm...
[09:52] <mazal> It's 197mb sorry , not 196
[09:52] <Kilos> np
[09:52] <Kilos> what you burn with?
[09:52] <mazal> Brasero
[09:52] <Kilos> i prefer k3b
[09:53] <mazal> I use k3b for data
[09:53] <Kilos> was a reason for it a while back but i forgot what
[09:53] <mazal> Brasero mess up data disks , but is fine for iso's
[09:53] <Kilos> verify function maybe
[09:54] <Kilos> and it makes them smaller i think
[09:54] <mazal> Smaller ?
[09:54] <Kilos> ya less data
[09:54] <mazal> Ok , I'm booting ;)
[09:55] <Kilos> i wanted to burn an iso to cd and brasero said cd too small and k3b worked
[09:55] <mazal> Will report back
[09:55] <Kilos> ok
[09:59] <magespawn> i wonder if he will get back here on the android
[09:59] <Kilos> lol
[09:59] <Kilos> andchat is the built in irc client
[10:00] <magespawn> would be cool to have one interface across all devices
[10:01] <magespawn> gotta go out bbl
[10:01] <Kilos> yeah
[10:03] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[10:05] <mazal> Doesn't work Kilos 
[10:06] <mazal> Just hangs
[10:06] <Kilos> aw same thing??
[10:06] <Kilos> oh my
[10:06] <mazal> Comes up with the cd menu , I chose live mode. Decompressing kernel and then nothing further
[10:06] <Kilos> try that other installer
[10:06] <mazal> Tried again and chose live mode vesa , same result
[10:06] <Kilos> thats when it doesnt see the hdd
[10:07] <mazal> You want me to see if I put it on usb stick and boot usb ?
[10:07] <Kilos> the minute i plug in a stick it sees it
[10:07] <Xethron> Hello Kilos 
[10:11] <Kilos> we onna android mission
[10:11] <mazal> Putting the iso on usb now
[10:11] <mazal> Then gonna try booting with that
[10:12] <Kilos> enetbootin?
[10:12] <Kilos> unetbootin
[10:12] <mazal> unetbootin
[10:12] <mazal> ya
[10:12] <Kilos> ah
[10:12] <mazal> Ok done
[10:12] <mazal> Rebooting
[10:21] <mazal> Nope
[10:21] <mazal> Same thing , just hangs
[10:21] <mazal> On both live mode and live vesa mode
[10:21] <mazal> So decided to try the install
[10:22] <Kilos> thats what i did but it says warning not an asus goodie
[10:22] <mazal> Install went through successfully to another usb stick. But upon rebooting just get the error no operating system
[10:22] <Kilos> maybe bad download
[10:22] <mazal> No asus warnings though
[10:22] <mazal> Or any other manufacturer warnings
[10:22] <Kilos> you need to tell bios to boot from usb
[10:23] <Kilos> when you got big downloads use wget
[10:23] <mazal> Ya I know
[10:23] <Kilos> as in wget https://android-x86.googlecode.com/files/android-x86-4.2-20130228.iso
[10:23] <Kilos> if your net drops y6ou use wget -c to continue
[10:23] <Kilos> ah
[10:24] <mazal> I think is a matter of thei installer not installing grub correctly
[10:24] <Kilos> i tried that link with browser and at 5meg it started over
[10:24] <Kilos> grrr
[10:24] <mazal> Gonna try once more with a different usb
[10:24] <mazal> Just to make sure it's not the stick
[10:35] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[10:36] <nlsthzn> hello uncle Kilos , how r u?
[10:36] <Kilos> ok ty nlsthzn and you
[10:36] <nlsthzn> ok... looking forward to the game tonight...
[10:36] <Kilos> yeah
[10:36] <Kilos> go sharks
[10:37] <Kilos> hehe
[10:37] <nlsthzn> lol
[10:38] <nlsthzn> lets hope not :p
[10:38] <mazal> Doesn't work Kilos 
[10:38] <Kilos> haha
[10:38] <mazal> Installer runs through fine , even sees all my inter drives
[10:38] <Kilos> mazal, i get that iso as 206 meg
[10:38] <mazal> But upon rebooting , operating system missing
[10:38] <mazal> Their stuff just don't work
[10:38] <mazal> Or don't want to be installed to usb
[10:39] <mazal> In nautilus it's 206.6 yes
[10:39] <Kilos> you dont have the full iso mazal 
[10:39] <Kilos> oh
[10:40] <mazal> Remember ubuntu shows the different varient of size
[10:40] <Kilos> eish well im gonna try it now
[10:40] <mazal> I dunno if one will have better luck installing to hdd
[10:41] <Kilos> try
[10:41] <mazal> But then your current grub will be gone
[10:41] <Kilos> it might just update it who knows
[10:41] <mazal> Don't want it to mess with that
[10:41] <Kilos> not on working drive no
[10:42] <mazal> No they specifically say it installs grub only for android not for any other os on the drive
[10:42] <Kilos> it should ask if you wanna install grub and you tick skip
[10:42] <mazal> But from what I see , their grub install fails completely
[10:43] <mazal> The stick has the android data after install , but won't boot. Doesn't see there is an os
[10:45] <mazal> There is something it MIGHT be though
[10:45] <mazal> But don't have time to test now
[10:46] <mazal> It might be that it uses dev names and when rebooting and removing the "iso usb" the one that remains have different dev name
[10:47] <Kilos> yeah /dev/sde1 here
[10:52] <mazal> Will test when I have time , visitors here now. Gonna install from cd so that dev name don't change
[11:08] <Squirm> meh
[11:08] <Squirm> fixed it up
[11:08] <Squirm> 1s flight time and a crash :/
[11:09] <Kilos> ai!
[11:37] <Kilos> mazal, http://www.android-x86.org/documents/installhowto
[11:46] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[11:46] <theblazehen> hi kilos
[12:40] <mazal> Kilos , neewat dit werk nie
[12:40] <Kilos> i get as far as run
[12:40] <mazal> Their grub install doesn't work
[12:40] <Kilos> but it dont run
[12:41] <mazal> Same here , if I choose to run it immediately after install it just hangs
[12:41] <mazal> When booting doesn't see the os
[12:41] <Kilos> than i get only a flashing - on a black screen
[12:41] <Kilos> grrr
[12:42] <mazal> They have a lot of work still to make it work
[12:42] <Kilos> yeah looks like
[12:42] <Kilos> but some of them have it working on pcs
[12:42] <Kilos> thatgreameguy got it running in virtual box
[12:45] <magespawn> ah well, we wouldn't want life to be too easy now, would we?
[12:45] <Kilos> lol
[12:49] <mazal> Maybe it only wants to run of sda1 , I dunno
[12:49] <mazal> But the fact that the live cd doesn't even start is already not a good sign
[12:51] <mazal> magespawn, I see crontab doesn't allow gedit to run
[12:51] <mazal> For some reason
[12:51] <Kilos> i think it only sees guid not mbr drives
[12:52] <mazal> That script was set for 13:30 with me , the file is created but gedit never opened
[12:52] <mazal> But if works when running the script manually 
[12:56] <magespawn> wonder why?
[13:10] <magespawn> let me google
[13:11] <superfly> mazal: users and x servers
[13:11] <superfly> mazal: press Ctrl+Alt+F2 and login there. then try running your command
[13:13] <mazal> magespawn, I think I found why
[13:14] <mazal> The terminal that invokes gedit are holding it , so when you close the terminal gedit also closes
[13:14] <mazal> Tested it running manually and that's exactly what happens
[13:14] <mazal> So my thinking , when cron runs it , no terminal is open so gedit immediately closes again
[13:14] <mazal> I added & disown at the end of the gedit line
[13:15] <mazal> Now when I run it manually and close the terminal it stays open
[13:15] <mazal> Will see if that helps for when cron runs it
[13:16] <mazal> superfly, it runs fine in a terminal in the unity desktop and creates the file , it just doesn't keep gedit open when cron runs it
[13:17] <superfly> mazal: there's a huge difference between the terminal in Unity and running from cron
[13:17] <mazal> That's what I'm trying to figure out superfly 
[13:17] <superfly> mazal: which is why I told you to switch to a tty (Ctrl+Alt+F2) and then run it
[13:18] <mazal> I don't want to run it manually
[13:18] <superfly> and why are you running gedit from cron?!
[13:18] <mazal> That way I will always have to run manually
[13:18] <magespawn> how do you get back from tty?
[13:18] <superfly> mazal: yes, but you'll never discover what the problem is unless you use the same environment as cron
[13:18] <superfly> in other words, Ctrl+Alt+F2
[13:18] <superfly> magespawn: Ctrl+Alt+F7
[13:18] <mazal> ok
[13:18] <magespawn> cool
[13:18] <superfly> the GUI is just another tty
[13:18] <magespawn> like learning new things
[13:20] <mazal> There it doesn't work at all as there is no display
[13:20] <mazal> Will just wait for 15:30 and see , think it might work now
[13:21] <magespawn> how often have you set it to run mazal?
[13:22] <mazal> superfly, is just a small little 2 command script that gives my disk usage. And the very reason I want it to run automatically is so that I don't forget to run it. Then the second thing is it must get my attention , that's the reason for gedit having to pop up and open the file that was generated
[13:22] <mazal> I can't think of another way for it to get my attention
[13:24] <mazal> magespawn, twice a day
[13:25] <mazal> And an extra test one for 15:30 just too see now
[13:27] <magespawn> will it right to the same file everytime?
[13:27] <magespawn> write
[13:27] <mazal> Yes , it overwrites it
[13:28] <magespawn> i suppose it would be possible to have it do it when the disk usage gets up to a certain number too
[13:29] <mazal> It will , but I don't have the scripting knowledge for that
[13:30] <mazal> Still don't work :(
[13:38] <mazal> Yes it works !!!
[13:38] <mazal> You have to tell cron on which screen to run it :)
[13:43] <mazal> magespawn, you just need to add DISPLAY=:0 to your cron job line , for example :
[13:43] <mazal> 42 15 * * * DISPLAY=:0 /home/mazal/Documents/Linux_Jobs/diskusage.sh
[13:49] <magespawn> cool beans
[13:51] <magespawn> just the DISPLAY=:0 or the whole line
[13:51] <magespawn> ?
[13:52] <mazal> 42 15 * * * /home/mazal/Documents/Linux_Jobs/diskusage.sh
[13:52] <magespawn> right
[13:52] <mazal> That's the cron line the way it was and not working
[13:52] <mazal> So cron don't know "where" to invoke the gui app
[13:52] <mazal> 42 15 * * * DISPLAY=:0 /home/mazal/Documents/Linux_Jobs/diskusage.sh
[13:53] <mazal> That's the one that works , after the time and days it must run you tell cron where it must open it
[13:55] <mazal> Onbiously you set the first five columns to your own needs
[13:55] <mazal> as well as the path to the script
[13:59] <magespawn> okay i know nothing about cron at all so i will need to do some reading first
[14:00] <mazal> Oh ok
[14:00] <mazal> Is easy for straight forward tasks , but can also be setup for more complicated times
[14:01] <mazal> Can give you a quick explanation of mine if you want ?
[14:01] <magespawn> okay
[14:02] <mazal> You edit your cron file in terminal with the command crontab -e
[14:02] <mazal> You list your current entries with crontab -l
[14:02] <mazal> Basically you just add one line for every job that cron must run for you
[14:03] <mazal> The basic format is very simple
[14:03] <mazal> # m h  dom mon dow   command
[14:03] <mazal> 00 13 * * * /home/mazal/backupmain.sh
[14:03] <mazal> 15 20 * * * /home/mazal/backupmain.sh
[14:03] <mazal> 30 13 * * * DISPLAY=:0 /home/mazal/Documents/Linux_Jobs/diskusage.sh
[14:03] <mazal> 30 20 * * * DISPLAY=:0 /home/mazal/Documents/Linux_Jobs/diskusage.sh
[14:03] <mazal> That's how mine looks.
[14:03] <mazal> First column is the minute value , then hour value , then day of month , then month , then day of week , then the actual command
[14:03] <magespawn> okay i understand
[14:04] <magespawn> stars are place holders?
[14:04] <mazal> Stars mean all
[14:04] <mazal> So if you look at my first one for example
[14:04] <magespawn> so every day/month etc
[14:04] <mazal> at 13:00 , of every day of every month of every weekday that command runs
[14:04] <mazal> three stars basically means every day
[14:05] <mazal> Second one is 20:15 every day
[14:05] <mazal> Only thing that can catch you out sometimes is the minute value that comes first
[14:05] <mazal> So you use command crontab -e
[14:06] <mazal> Mine I chose nano as default editor , you add your lines. Save and exit
[14:06] <magespawn> right 
[14:06] <mazal> Then you can list with crontab -l to make sure everything is ok
[14:06] <mazal> And that's it
[14:06] <magespawn> awesome
[14:06] <mazal> Those first 5 columns you can actually create very specific times and day combinations
[14:07] <magespawn> and you can use it to run any executable bash file?
[14:07] <mazal> You can run any command
[14:07] <mazal> Or executable bash file
[14:08] <mazal> If you want it to run just a command you can just put the command in there
[14:08] <mazal> For example if I wanted to just create the diskusage file and not have any other commands I could replace
[14:08] <mazal> 30 13 * * * DISPLAY=:0 /home/mazal/Documents/Linux_Jobs/diskusage.sh
[14:08] <mazal> with this
[14:09] <mazal> 30 13 * * * df -h > ~/diskusage.txt
[14:09] <mazal> But because there is multiple command for that specific task I prefer a executable script file
[14:10] <magespawn> okay so this takes care of the automatic display of the file that the diskusage.sh creates?
[14:10] <mazal> That DISPLAY=:0 does
[14:11] <mazal> So cron knows on which display to start the gui app that is called in the sh file
[14:11] <magespawn> and the rest then runs the diskusage.sh?
[14:11] <mazal> Yep
[14:11] <magespawn> cool beans
[14:11] <mazal> The display part is not neccesary for command or script that doesn't include gui apps
[14:12] <Kilos> mazal, go whatch this how to
[14:12] <magespawn> i think this is something worth exploring
[14:12] <Kilos> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/03/how-to-dual-boot-android-x86-and-ubuntu.html
[14:12] <mazal> Like my two backups that run you will see I left it out
[14:12] <Kilos> it uses old grub
[14:12] <magespawn> can make a lot of things automatic
[14:12] <mazal> You can play a lot with it , cron is very powerful scheduler
[14:12] <mazal> For example let's say I want to run my backups every hour
[14:12] <mazal> I will replace this
[14:13] <mazal> 00 13 * * * /home/mazal/backupmain.sh
[14:13] <mazal> With this
[14:13] <mazal> 00 * * * * /home/mazal/backupmain.sh
[14:13] <mazal> Now I added star to the hour value as well
[14:13] <mazal> So every 00 minute value of every hour that command is gonna run
[14:13] <mazal> And in this case the command is a sh script being executed
[14:14] <magespawn> very useful
[14:14] <mazal> or
[14:14] <mazal> Let's say it must run only on every 10th of the month
[14:14] <mazal> I would replace this
[14:14] <mazal> 00 13 * * * /home/mazal/backupmain.sh
[14:14] <mazal> with this
[14:15] <mazal> 00 13 10 * * /home/mazal/backupmain.sh
[14:15] <mazal> Now it will run at 13:00 only on the 10th of every month
[14:15] <mazal> And so you can use the day of week and month options and create a very advanced cron with load of commands if you want
[14:17] <magespawn> very useful
[14:17] <mazal> Mostly though , although cron can run or launch any app theoretically it is mostly for command and scripts that do tasks in cli
[14:17] <magespawn> i have to go and get my fish from a play date, bbl, ty for the lesson mazal
[14:18] <mazal> As it is difficult to automate gui tasks
[14:18] <mazal> Plz , hope it helped ;)
[14:20] <mazal> Kilos , interesting
[14:23] <Kilos> maybe android must update to grub2
[14:34] <superfly> mazal: there are a plathora of ways to get your attention
[14:34] <superfly> like e-mails
[14:34] <superfly> or notifyd notifications
[14:35] <superfly> dbus is awesome for that kind of stuff
[14:35] <inetpro> good afternoon
[14:37] <inetpro> with Kubuntu you even have widgets that can show you stuff like network, cpu and other utilisation 
[14:37] <inetpro> and there's even something for your hard drives as well
[14:38] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[14:38] <inetpro> ello Kilos
[14:39] <mazal> superfly, I tough of using email , but didn't want it to be dependent on Inet
[14:39] <mazal> The others you mention I will be glad to learn about , that know those
[14:39] <mazal> Lo inetpro 
[14:40] <mazal> And Xethron 
[14:41] <inetpro> hi mazal
[14:44] <inetpro> superfly: have you tried instant server yet? http://instantserver.io/
[14:45]  * inetpro thought it could be useful for superfly or any other developer for testing
[14:45] <superfly> inetpro: 
[14:45] <superfly> no
[15:09] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[15:09] <Cantide> hello :)
[15:23] <Kilos> i wonder if alien can convert android files to .deb
[16:11] <Cantide> i doubt that..
[16:11] <Cantide> android uses some evil things
[16:12] <Kilos> hehe ya they dont work
[16:15] <Cantide> :p
[16:38] <kbmonkey> hello all
[16:58] <Cantide> hi '-'/
[16:58] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[16:59] <kbmonkey> o\
[16:59] <kbmonkey> o/
[17:00] <kbmonkey> windows supports real multitasing. it can boot and crash at the same time.
[17:01] <Cantide> lol
[17:01] <Kilos> rofl
[17:09] <Kilos> hi roryy 
[17:10] <roryy> hey Kilos 
[17:10] <roryy> how goes?
[17:10] <Kilos> hey kbmonkey when you are bored with nothing to do try get android-x86 working onna pc
[17:10] <roryy> i at last have a new laptop
[17:10] <Kilos> good ty roryy and you?
[17:10] <Kilos> great
[17:17] <kbmonkey> hey Kilos I am never bored with nothing to do ;) but why would I want to run android on a pc?
[17:17] <kbmonkey> I already have Android running in an emulator 
[17:17] <Kilos> because you can
[17:17] <Kilos> oh
[17:17] <kbmonkey> yeah, it comes with the google android development kit
[17:18] <Kilos> does the os install into the emulator?
[17:18] <kbmonkey> so you can run your programs on android for testing he he
[17:18] <kbmonkey> well yeah, but you don't install anything, it comes as a ROM. you just boot it up.
[17:19] <Kilos> and it looks like the android tablets?
[17:19] <kbmonkey> similar to phones, you flash a ROM onto the phone's chips, you don't have an installer like we know in linux
[17:19] <kbmonkey> yup. it is one and the same used on phones. but slow as hell.
[17:19] <Kilos> ah
[17:20] <kbmonkey> so I plug my phone in usb and run my apps directly on my phone instead, because it is too slow in the emulator XD
[17:20] <Kilos> ok
[17:21] <Kilos> so if i plug a tablet in here will it be able to use my 3g?
[17:21] <Kilos> tried with wifi router but major job
[17:21] <kbmonkey> the interesting thing is you can install other apps you may think is malicious, and kinda see what they do. then you can reset the emulator and everything goes back to normal
[17:22] <kbmonkey> you want the tablet to use your 8ta internet?
[17:22] <Kilos> ya
[17:22] <kbmonkey> no, you can't do that. you have to put the sim card in the tablet (if it has a sim card slot)
[17:23] <kbmonkey> or, you have to create a wireless network on your pc that the tablet can connect to.
[17:23] <Kilos> no sim in this tablet thats why we tried the wifi route
[17:23] <kbmonkey> yup, does your pc have a wifi card Kilos ?
[17:23] <Kilos> no i bought a router
[17:24] <Kilos> but it dont see my arab modem
[17:24] <kbmonkey> ah, yes that would work too XD
[17:24] <kbmonkey> you don't see the modem where?
[17:24] <Kilos> so gotta make pc share 3g
[17:24] <kbmonkey> from the tablet?
[17:24] <Kilos> grrr
[17:24] <Kilos> tablet dont see modem
[17:25] <kbmonkey> yup, the tablet wont see the modem. you set up your pc to share its internet through your router, so anything connecting to the router will get internet
[17:25] <kbmonkey> I have never done this myself, so I can have a look around for you if you like
[17:25] <Kilos> ya
[17:25] <Kilos> np
[17:25] <kbmonkey> :)
[17:26] <Kilos> tablet can rest
[17:26] <Kilos> its sisters toy
[17:26] <kbmonkey> thumbs up
[17:26] <kbmonkey> hey you are getting very techno-geek on us Kilos!
[17:26] <Kilos> na man it was to help sis
[17:27] <Kilos> tablets connects fine to router
[17:27] <kbmonkey> and the router connects to your pc with the cable hey
[17:27] <Kilos> yip
[17:27] <Kilos> will be something with masquerading
[17:28] <kbmonkey> well, I remember I tried that before but got stuck as my specific router could not share any cable-connected computers with any wireles-connected ones (if that makes sense)
[17:28] <Kilos> but it caused a crash here when i followed some links instructions so now it can rest
[17:28] <kbmonkey> but we can try :)
[17:29] <kbmonkey> sure
[17:29] <kbmonkey> the best place to start would be - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[17:29] <Kilos> i can even drag drop stuff to the tablet
[17:29] <kbmonkey> that has everything you should need
[17:29] <kbmonkey> really? over the wifi? that is very neat :)
[17:29] <Kilos> all we could find was using the router or fone as the 3g connection
[17:29] <Kilos> this is backward
[17:30] <kbmonkey> yar :(
[17:30] <Kilos> hehe
[17:30] <kbmonkey> is it a adsl router too? i.e. it has a plug for a land line too?
[17:31] <Kilos> ya adsl and 3g
[17:31] <kbmonkey> hang on.. the router can take a sim card too?!
[17:31] <Kilos> and 4 eth sockets
[17:31] <Kilos> no it has a usb at the back for the modem
[17:32] <kbmonkey> oh my, these gadgets are getting so fancy!
[17:32] <Kilos> yeah
[17:32] <kbmonkey> okay in that case you might not have the problem I had XD
[17:32] <kbmonkey> because you do not need to set up internet sharing on your pc: why would you? it gets internet from the router
[17:34] <Kilos> no man
[17:34] <Kilos> the billion router dont support my arab modem
[17:34] <kbmonkey> no man it should. do you have a PIN on the simcard?
[17:34] <kbmonkey> do you have to enter a PIN when you connect it?
[17:35] <Kilos> doesnt support many 3g modems
[17:35] <kbmonkey> oh :(
[17:35] <Kilos> no pin
[17:35] <kbmonkey> modems should all support the RFC standard so that they are compliant 
[17:36] <kbmonkey> but we know how these things go.. lol
[17:36] <Kilos> it doesnt even see when modem plugged in but sees when cell is plugged in
[17:36] <Kilos> yeah 
[18:54] <SilverCode> YAY! I finally have a reason to have spent R7600 on a PC upgrade
[18:54] <Kilos> whew
[18:54] <SilverCode> KDE PIM compiles in about 5 minutes
[18:54] <Kilos> great
[18:55] <SilverCode> small victory I know, especially since I'm compiling KDE PIM on a Saturday night
[18:55] <SilverCode> but at least I don't have that empty hollowness of wondering why I spend so much on an upgrade that I have no use for
[18:55] <SilverCode> well, for the next hour at least
[18:55] <SilverCode> them the buyers remorse will kick back in
[18:56] <SilverCode> *then
[18:56] <Kilos> eina price hey
[18:56] <SilverCode> yeah, but to be fair, I have been putting it off for about 5 years
[18:56] <Kilos> but look at it like its not a 1/4 of what andrew spent on his
[18:57] <Kilos> his graphics card cost more
[18:57] <Kilos> so you did well
[18:57] <SilverCode> heh, I still haven't bought the graphics card :)
[18:57] <SilverCode> I'm buying the PC in phases, to make it less painful
[18:57] <Kilos> lol
[18:57] <SilverCode> first it was the pwoer supply and case
[18:57] <Kilos> what did you get?
[18:58] <SilverCode> then 2 months later the CPU, Mobo and RAM
[18:58] <SilverCode> next the graphics card
[18:58] <Kilos> you building a quad core
[18:58] <Kilos> i7
[18:58] <SilverCode> got a Core i7 Haswell 4770k
[18:58] <Kilos> cool
[18:58] <SilverCode> 16GB RAM
[18:58] <Kilos> lekker
[18:58] <SilverCode> 2 SSD's (old ones though)
[18:59] <Kilos> no matter as long as they work
[18:59] <SilverCode> I keep sitting here thinking though, "Why the hell am I doing this?"
[19:00] <SilverCode> I don't really play games, so I can't use that excuse
[19:00] <Kilos> lol
[19:00] <Kilos> speed is lekker man
[19:00] <Kilos> thats enough excuse
[19:01] <SilverCode> it is, but when 3/4 of your cores are idling at 800MHz 90% of the time, you really have to wonder if you just bought it for bragging rights
[19:01] <SilverCode> ...which I might have done...
[19:02] <Kilos> lol
[19:02] <SilverCode> on the other hand, not what I can compile things quicker, I might be more inclined to fix bugs instead of just report them
[19:02] <Kilos> good
[19:03] <Kilos> you cant brag with 16g ram
[19:03] <SilverCode> (another lie I tell myself to help me sleep at night)
[19:03] <Kilos> andrew has 68g
[19:03] <Kilos> sleep lekker man you did well
[19:03] <SilverCode> wow, I didn't even think you could get a mobo that supports 68GB
[19:04] <Kilos> next time he is here ask him
[19:04] <SilverCode> will do
[19:04] <SilverCode> because I would love to know what people do with 68GB ram
[19:04] <SilverCode> I used to use a 60GB SSD
[19:04] <SilverCode> took about 2 years to fill up
[19:05] <SilverCode> (all "DVD backups" were on a normal HDD)
[19:05] <SilverCode> so no idea what you would need 64GB RAM for
[19:06] <Kilos> hehe
[19:06] <SilverCode> although if you could get a laptop that had a 64GB SSD and 64GB ram, and just transferred the currect state between the two on shutdown and power on
[19:07] <SilverCode> that would be worth it
[19:07] <Kilos> hehe
[19:08] <SilverCode> could probably achieve a 2s powerdown and powerup time
[19:08] <SilverCode> like an awesome suspend
[19:08] <Kilos> he does weird stuff but he crashed it coupla days ago from kenya or somewhere
[19:09] <Kilos> thats why he is offline
[19:23] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[22:13] <kbmonkey> hello
[22:30] <Vince-0> is this any time to make an appearance!
[22:31] <Vince-0> lolz, im off to bed
[22:31] <kbmonkey> lolz
[22:32] <kbmonkey> I just had a nap :p
[22:38] <Xethron> hehe
[22:38] <Xethron> I think I should do the nap thing too
[22:38] <kbmonkey> yar it helps, Ima try get coding again now
[23:13] <Xethron> haha
[23:13] <Xethron> kbmonkey: what you coding?
[23:13] <Xethron> Language I mean
[23:13] <kbmonkey> I am playing in python hey
[23:14] <Xethron> Nice language
[23:14] <kbmonkey> a nice change from all those semicolons!
[23:15] <kbmonkey> also learning processing, made tictactoe, lol
[23:15] <kbmonkey> http://darknet.co.za/tictactoe/
[23:15] <kbmonkey> while I was waiting on a download
[23:16] <Xethron> haha
[23:16] <Xethron> I'm a PHP guy
[23:16] <kbmonkey> lots of people hate that. truth is majority of the web runs on php, and I use it for my blog engine too
[23:17] <kbmonkey> its not all bad :)
[23:17] <Xethron> WOOT!!!
[23:17] <Xethron> I won a cookie :D
[23:17] <kbmonkey> LOL
[23:17] <Xethron> I won another one :D
[23:18] <kbmonkey> the ai is only intermediate. it wont take advantage of winning moves.
[23:18] <Xethron> :/
[23:19] <Xethron> 4 wins 0 losses :D
[23:19] <kbmonkey> nice!
[23:20] <kbmonkey> I'm loving this cmatrix app lately - cli matrix like effect XD
[23:22] <Xethron> hehe, cool
[23:25] <kbmonkey> hello space
[23:27] <Xethron> Whats Processing?
[23:27] <Xethron> js library?
[23:27] <kbmonkey> see processing.org, it's a framework that leverages java or javascript.
[23:28] <kbmonkey> I can flip a switch and build that code for android too :D
[23:28] <kbmonkey> it is HTML5
[23:28] <Xethron> sweet
[23:28] <Xethron> There is just too much to learn!
[23:29] <kbmonkey> totally. I am doing a class on coursera.org on processing at the moment
[23:29] <Xethron> Wish I could just install them all into my brain and know what to do when
[23:30] <kbmonkey> it integrates with the google android adk
[23:30] <kbmonkey> and I am starting a course in linear algebra. just too much to learn :/
[23:31] <kbmonkey> I suck at math, big time
[23:34] <Xethron> haha
[23:34] <Xethron> I love Math :D
[23:34] <Xethron> Ok, but I'm off
[23:34] <Xethron> Need my beauty sleep
[23:34] <Xethron> Programmers need to always look their best
[23:41] <kbmonkey> gn :)