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| mikubuntu | i can't figure out whats going on --- i keep trying to make a boot stick for lubuntu, but when i finish and try it on the target machine, it seems to have grabbed an ubuntu image instead of the 12.04 lubuntu i have labeled in my file. is there a 13.04 lubuntu i should download? | 04:42 |
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| holstein | mikubuntu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/13.04/release/ | 04:48 |
| mikubuntu | holstein, thx -- found it. do you know any reason why the startup disk creator would be grabbing a different .iso image than i specify when creating a disk? doesn't make sense, but it happened various times -- lubuntu has it's own splash image for booting, right? | 04:51 |
| holstein | mikubuntu: i dont know why it would be grabbing an iso.. just point it to one you have already downloaded | 04:52 |
| mikubuntu | ok, gnna try again with 13.04 | 04:52 |
| mikubuntu | hmmmm -- i see that the startup disk creator tool seems to have ubuntu 12.04 'stuck' in it .... i try to select the other file lubuntu 13.04, but it doesn't populate in the creator | 04:59 |
| mikubuntu | don't know how else to clear it | 04:59 |
| holstein | !unetbootin | 04:59 |
| ubottu | For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 04:59 |
| holstein | i dont use that tool.. i use unetbootin.. or dd copy the iso | 04:59 |
| mikubuntu | burning with xfburn now | 05:05 |
| mikubuntu | but onto a disk, as i don't see any option to burn to usb | 05:06 |
| mikubuntu | maybe i need to uninstall and reinstall the startup disk creator | 05:07 |
| mikubuntu | as if it were a windows app | 05:07 |
| holstein | mikubuntu: dd copy would be "burn to usb" equivalent | 05:10 |
| holstein | also unetbootin works the same as startup disk creator.. | 05:10 |
| mikubuntu | thx holstein -- is dd copy an app or a term command | 05:21 |
| mikubuntu | i'll install unetbootin also | 05:21 |
| mikubuntu | this target machine is an older gateway -- it's supposed to have wireless, and has an indicator light that wireless is on -- but its not detecting my router -- is there a way to check/troubleshoot it? | 05:24 |
| mikubuntu | i don't have an ether cable long enough to make it to this room | 05:26 |
| mikubuntu | unetbootin looks a little complicated | 05:35 |
| wxl | mikubuntu: unetbootin is easy peasy and it works | 05:39 |
| wxl | frankly i've had mixed results with startup disk creator. can't exactly say why. | 05:39 |
| wxl | dd works perfect but it is not for the faint-hearted or those uncomfortable with the command line | 05:39 |
| wxl | unetbootin can even do the downloading for you | 05:39 |
| mikubuntu | startup always worked for me until recently -- i just uninstalled/reinstalled it maybe it will work again | 05:40 |
| mikubuntu | i see that unet seems to download distro and version, but i din't see lubuntu in the list, only xubuntu and ubuntu | 05:41 |
| mikubuntu | and when i tried to used the image file method, it din't seem to find my filesystem | 05:42 |
| wxl | huh, lubuntu's in my version and i use it almost daily with browsing for the image file | 05:43 |
| wxl | admittedly i'm using the version from getdeb, but i doubt that makes a difference | 05:44 |
| mikubuntu | goes alphabetically from kubuntu, to linuxconsole, to linux mint on mine | 05:46 |
| mikubuntu | maybe i need to update that also (found i already had it installed, but hadn't ever looked at it) | 05:46 |
| wxl | admittedly it will only load up to 12.04 and daily but | 05:47 |
| wxl | between mint and mandriva on mine | 05:47 |
| wxl | i'm running 583-1~getdeb1 | 05:47 |
| wxl | http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/12.10/?q=unetbootin | 05:49 |
| mikubuntu | http://imagebin.org/263650 | 05:52 |
| mikubuntu | got installation done lubuntu 1304, but definitely DON'T have wireless !! anybody up to help me troubleshoot? machine is not detecting my wireless router at all. | 06:30 |
| wxl | what's your wireless card mikubuntu ? | 06:35 |
| wxl | lspci should help you find it mikubuntu | 06:37 |
| mikubuntu | wxl, sorry had to run the dog out .... let me try lspci now | 06:43 |
| wxl | no prob, i was cooking :) | 06:47 |
| mikubuntu | wxl :: network controller: Broadcom Corp BCM4318 (AirForce One 54g) 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 2) | 06:47 |
| wxl | ah, broadcom | 06:47 |
| wxl | linux's worst enemy | 06:47 |
| mikubuntu | :( | 06:47 |
| wxl | do you have an ethernet cable handy? | 06:48 |
| mikubuntu | damn, not handy for this room | 06:48 |
| wxl | do you have another computer? | 06:48 |
| mikubuntu | yes, the laptop i'm on right next to the target | 06:48 |
| wxl | (with some kind of internet connection) | 06:48 |
| wxl | ok then we'll do some downloading | 06:49 |
| mikubuntu | wireless | 06:49 |
| wxl | assuming you also have a usb drive handy | 06:49 |
| mikubuntu | i have the one i burnt the lubuntu 1304 to --- do i have to erase it? | 06:49 |
| wxl | well if you don't have an ethernet cable handy, you won't be able to download the necessary drivers and firmware | 06:50 |
| wxl | so our alternate possibility is to download it with another computer and somehow get it to the one in question | 06:50 |
| wxl | you could also do it with disposable media but it seems like a waste to me | 06:50 |
| mikubuntu | hmmmm ... well, i have 98 cds i paid $2 for, don't mind throwing out 2c for the team | 06:52 |
| mikubuntu | guess i might want to keep it in files, in case i ever run into broadcom again | 06:53 |
| wxl | well, you will need a different version for a different version of lubuntu | 06:54 |
| wxl | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43_-_No_Internet_access | 06:54 |
| mikubuntu | hmmmm .... don't see package for 13.04 | 06:56 |
| wxl | 1s | 06:56 |
| wxl | oh duh | 06:58 |
| wxl | i'm an idiot | 06:58 |
| wxl | i forgot i figured out a better way to do this | 06:58 |
| mikubuntu | thats good, cause i just remembered there's no way i can wrap my head around anything in that link :( | 06:59 |
| wxl | :/ | 06:59 |
| wxl | try this http://mirror.pnl.gov/ubuntu//pool/multiverse/b/b43-fwcutter/firmware-b43-installer_015-14_all.deb | 07:03 |
| wxl | get that and then install it with your weapon of choice | 07:04 |
| mikubuntu | ok, downloaded | 07:04 |
| wxl | i prefer sudo dpkg -i firmware-blahblahblah… | 07:04 |
| wxl | then you'll need to restart typically | 07:05 |
| wxl | there's ways around that if you want to mess with kernel modules | 07:05 |
| mikubuntu | so, you want me to load a disk into the laptop, and then save it via command line? | 07:05 |
| mikubuntu | me no have relationship with the kernel | 07:05 |
| wxl | get it over to that machine by your preferred means | 07:06 |
| wxl | install it | 07:06 |
| wxl | restart | 07:06 |
| wxl | then your wireless should be active and happy and you can put in any needed information to connect | 07:06 |
| mikubuntu | can you sort of walk me through it? i don't even know how to get the file onto a disk. | 07:06 |
| wxl | well this other computer has what os on it? | 07:07 |
| mikubuntu | ubuntu/edubuntu/lubuntu | 07:07 |
| wxl | uhhhhhh | 07:08 |
| wxl | triple boot? | 07:08 |
| mikubuntu | well, no -- it started with ubuntu, and i just added edubuntu and lubuntu | 07:08 |
| mikubuntu | desktop packages | 07:08 |
| mikubuntu | so i always session in with lubuntu | 07:09 |
| wxl | O_O | 07:09 |
| wxl | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning | 07:09 |
| wxl | xfburn is what lubuntu uses | 07:12 |
| mikubuntu | ok, burning with brasero | 07:17 |
| mikubuntu | "success" | 07:18 |
| mikubuntu | ok, wxl, i have the disk placed in the target laptop | 07:19 |
| mikubuntu | dialogue box opens -- has one option: open in file manager | 07:21 |
| wxl | so now you need to install it | 07:21 |
| mikubuntu | sounds so easy | 07:22 |
| mikubuntu | :( | 07:22 |
| wxl | you should have gdebi i think, so you should just be able to double click on the deb file | 07:22 |
| wxl | you managed to install 3 different desktops didn't you? :) | 07:22 |
| mikubuntu | so i should open with the file manager first? | 07:22 |
| wxl | should work fine | 07:22 |
| mikubuntu | could not open the file :: the package might be corrupted or you are not allowed to open. check the permission. | 07:23 |
| wxl | fine, just open a terminal | 07:24 |
| wxl | then you need to cd to the location of the file | 07:24 |
| wxl | e.g. if it was in your Downloads folder, you'd use the command: cd ~/Downloads | 07:24 |
| wxl | where ~ is a shortcut for /home/your-username | 07:25 |
| wxl | stop me if i'm telling you something you already know | 07:25 |
| mikubuntu | open current folder in term? or open current folder as Root? | 07:25 |
| wxl | doesn't matter unless you have some funky situation where your user doesn't have admin access | 07:26 |
| mikubuntu | i'm lost | 07:26 |
| wxl | i wish i had time to tell you all about linux but frankly i don't | 07:27 |
| wxl | just pick one or the other, it doesn't matter | 07:27 |
| mikubuntu | the folder is in /media/lubuntu/Data disc (07 Jul 13) | 07:27 |
| wxl | so type: | 07:28 |
| wxl | cd /media/lubuntu/Data disc (07 Jul 13) | 07:28 |
| wxl | well | 07:29 |
| wxl | i guess that's not right | 07:29 |
| wxl | cd "/media/lubuntu/Data disc (07 Jul 13)" | 07:29 |
| mikubuntu | so enter in term with quotation marks? | 07:29 |
| wxl | yep | 07:29 |
| mikubuntu | ok, lemme try | 07:29 |
| mikubuntu | output is :: /media/lubuntu/Data disc (07 Jul 13)$ | 07:31 |
| wxl | now: | 07:32 |
| wxl | sudo dpkg -i firmware[HIT TAB] | 07:32 |
| mikubuntu | k | 07:32 |
| wxl | hitting tab there should complete the rest of the filename | 07:32 |
| wxl | then it will ask you for your password | 07:32 |
| mikubuntu | errors were encountered | 07:34 |
| wxl | such as? | 07:34 |
| mikubuntu | dpkg split: error: error reading firmware-b43 ....deb Input/Output error | 07:35 |
| wxl | huh | 07:35 |
| wxl | that's weird | 07:35 |
| wxl | well we could do this the old fashioned way but i don't have time to explain it | 07:36 |
| wxl | so what i'd do, frankly, is get an ethernet cable to it | 07:36 |
| wxl | then it's super-easy | 07:37 |
| mikubuntu | ok, i've used enough of your time tonite | 07:37 |
| wxl | you already have the knowledge you need ot make it happen | 07:37 |
| wxl | you just need to install firmware-b43-installer | 07:37 |
| wxl | after that, you're good | 07:37 |
| wxl | well and a restart | 07:37 |
| wxl | so get that super long ethernet cable | 07:38 |
| wxl | gotta jet | 07:38 |
| mikubuntu | ok, wxl -- ty again | 07:38 |
| jeri | hi everyone! newbie here :) | 10:07 |
| jeri | what is the command to terminate a process in lubuntu? | 10:11 |
| jeri | Hi. is it ok to uninstall alsa in lubuntu? i got my mic working in pulseaudio it's working great, but in alsa it is muted, i have pulseaudio installed so is it safe to remove alsa? | 10:19 |
| tsimpson | jeri: you can not remove alsa | 10:32 |
| tsimpson | first, it's needed by pulse | 10:32 |
| tsimpson | but second, it's part of the kernel too | 10:32 |
| jeri | why i cannot remove alsa? | 10:45 |
| mikubuntu | trying to get b43 firmware installed to support broadcom wireless, but i'm having issues -- i have the .deb file loaded on a cd, but when i click to get gdebi to open get this error msg: Could not open ... The package might be corrupted or you are not allowed to open the file. Check the permissions of the file. | 14:15 |
| mikubuntu | in another instance, i got a msg that 'the dependencies are not satisfiable' | 14:16 |
| === jeanaustinr is now known as jeanaustinr|x | ||
| mikubuntu | ok, wait -- trying another method that someone suggested last nite -- took the laptop in another room that could reach the wired connection --- i used command 'sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer' but i get output: could not find firmware-b43-installer | 14:27 |
| mikubuntu | doing the updates on the install, hoping that sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer will work after updates complete | 14:36 |
| mikubuntu | success, wireless working | 14:59 |
| mikubuntu | whats a good screenshot app to install for lubuntu? | 15:33 |
| mikubuntu | nothing shows in the software center for 'screenshot' | 15:34 |
| mikubuntu | have an old dell latitude d600 -- doesn't seem to want to boot from cd drive (i thought it was faulty) or usb -- the box does, or is supposed to be able to boot from usb as i set it in one time boot -- but it isn't doing anything, and have a blank screen | 16:47 |
| mikubuntu | when the usb was first inserted, it blinked a few times -- but not doing anything now | 16:48 |
| mikubuntu | well, cursor blinking in top left, but thats all -- is there any way to trouble shoot? | 16:49 |
| mikubuntu | got it for $10 at a garage sale | 16:49 |
| mikubuntu | ran bios diagnostics, says no drive detected -- but even if there were no hdd in it wouldn't it boot on usb? | 16:56 |
| mikubuntu | so, trying to get this dell d600 latitude working -- won't boot from cd, won't boot from usb -- just watched this vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEeHxopvR3I) to find the hdd, and it indeed has one in it. but trying to boot from hdd computer says 'no bootable devices' | 17:09 |
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