[04:42] <mikubuntu> i can't figure out whats going on --- i keep trying to make a boot stick for lubuntu, but when i finish and try it on the target machine, it seems to have grabbed an ubuntu image instead of the 12.04 lubuntu i have labeled in my file. is there a 13.04 lubuntu i should download?
[04:48] <holstein> mikubuntu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/13.04/release/
[04:51] <mikubuntu> holstein, thx -- found it. do you know any reason why the startup disk creator would be grabbing a different .iso image than i specify when creating a disk? doesn't make sense, but it happened various times -- lubuntu has it's own splash image for booting, right?
[04:52] <holstein> mikubuntu: i dont know why it would be grabbing an iso.. just point it to one you have already downloaded
[04:52] <mikubuntu> ok, gnna try again with 13.04
[04:59] <mikubuntu> hmmmm -- i see that the startup disk creator tool seems to have ubuntu 12.04 'stuck' in it .... i try to select the other file lubuntu 13.04, but it doesn't populate in the creator
[04:59] <mikubuntu> don't know how else to clear it
[04:59] <holstein> !unetbootin
[04:59] <holstein> i dont use that tool.. i use unetbootin.. or dd copy the iso
[05:05] <mikubuntu> burning with xfburn now
[05:06] <mikubuntu> but onto a disk, as i don't see any option to burn to usb
[05:07] <mikubuntu> maybe i need to uninstall and reinstall the startup disk creator
[05:07] <mikubuntu> as if it were a windows app
[05:10] <holstein> mikubuntu: dd copy would be "burn to usb" equivalent
[05:10] <holstein> also unetbootin works the same as startup disk creator..
[05:21] <mikubuntu> thx holstein -- is dd copy an app or a term command
[05:21] <mikubuntu> i'll install unetbootin also
[05:24] <mikubuntu> this target machine is an older gateway -- it's supposed to have wireless, and has an indicator light that wireless is on -- but its not detecting my router -- is there a way to check/troubleshoot it?
[05:26] <mikubuntu> i don't have an ether cable long enough to make it to this room
[05:35] <mikubuntu> unetbootin looks a little complicated
[05:39] <wxl> mikubuntu: unetbootin is easy peasy and it works
[05:39] <wxl> frankly i've had mixed results with startup disk creator. can't exactly say why.
[05:39] <wxl> dd works perfect but it is not for the faint-hearted or those uncomfortable with the command line
[05:39] <wxl> unetbootin can even do the downloading for you
[05:40] <mikubuntu> startup always worked for me until recently -- i just uninstalled/reinstalled it maybe it will work again
[05:41] <mikubuntu> i see that unet seems to download distro and version, but i din't see lubuntu in the list, only xubuntu and ubuntu
[05:42] <mikubuntu> and when i tried to used the image file method, it din't seem to find my filesystem
[05:43] <wxl> huh, lubuntu's in my version and i use it almost daily with browsing for the image file
[05:44] <wxl> admittedly i'm using the version from getdeb, but i doubt that makes a difference
[05:46] <mikubuntu> goes alphabetically from kubuntu, to linuxconsole, to linux mint on mine
[05:46] <mikubuntu> maybe i need to update that also (found i already had it installed, but hadn't ever looked at it)
[05:47] <wxl> admittedly it will only load up to 12.04 and daily but
[05:47] <wxl> between mint and mandriva on mine
[05:47] <wxl> i'm running 583-1~getdeb1
[05:49] <wxl> http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/12.10/?q=unetbootin
[05:52] <mikubuntu> http://imagebin.org/263650
[06:30] <mikubuntu> got installation done lubuntu 1304, but definitely DON'T have wireless !! anybody up to help me troubleshoot? machine is not detecting my wireless router at all.
[06:35] <wxl> what's your wireless card mikubuntu ?
[06:37] <wxl> lspci should help you find it mikubuntu
[06:43] <mikubuntu> wxl, sorry had to run the dog out .... let me try lspci now
[06:47] <wxl> no prob, i was cooking :)
[06:47] <mikubuntu> wxl :: network controller: Broadcom Corp BCM4318 (AirForce One 54g) 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 2)
[06:47] <wxl> ah, broadcom
[06:47] <wxl> linux's worst enemy
[06:47] <mikubuntu> :(
[06:48] <wxl> do you have an ethernet cable handy?
[06:48] <mikubuntu> damn, not handy for this room
[06:48] <wxl> do you have another computer?
[06:48] <mikubuntu> yes, the laptop i'm on right next to the target
[06:48] <wxl> (with some kind of internet connection)
[06:49] <wxl> ok then we'll do some downloading
[06:49] <mikubuntu> wireless
[06:49] <wxl> assuming you also have a usb drive handy
[06:49] <mikubuntu> i have the one i burnt the lubuntu 1304 to --- do i have to erase it?
[06:50] <wxl> well if you don't have an ethernet cable handy, you won't be able to download the necessary drivers and firmware
[06:50] <wxl> so our alternate possibility is to download it with another computer and somehow get it to the one in question
[06:50] <wxl> you could also do it with disposable media but it seems like a waste to me
[06:52] <mikubuntu> hmmmm ... well, i have 98 cds i paid $2 for, don't mind throwing out 2c for the team
[06:53] <mikubuntu> guess i might want to keep it in files, in case i ever run into broadcom again
[06:54] <wxl> well, you will need a different version for a different version of lubuntu
[06:54] <wxl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43_-_No_Internet_access
[06:56] <mikubuntu> hmmmm .... don't see package for 13.04
[06:56] <wxl> 1s
[06:58] <wxl> oh duh
[06:58] <wxl> i'm an idiot
[06:58] <wxl> i forgot i figured out a better way to do this
[06:59] <mikubuntu> thats good, cause i just remembered there's no way i can wrap my head around anything in that link :(
[06:59] <wxl> :/
[07:03] <wxl> try this http://mirror.pnl.gov/ubuntu//pool/multiverse/b/b43-fwcutter/firmware-b43-installer_015-14_all.deb
[07:04] <wxl> get that and then install it with your weapon of choice
[07:04] <mikubuntu> ok, downloaded
[07:04] <wxl> i prefer sudo dpkg -i firmware-blahblahblah…
[07:05] <wxl> then you'll need to restart typically
[07:05] <wxl> there's ways around that if you want to mess with kernel modules
[07:05] <mikubuntu> so, you want me to load a disk into the laptop, and then save it via command line?
[07:05] <mikubuntu> me no have relationship with the kernel
[07:06] <wxl> get it over to that machine by your preferred means
[07:06] <wxl> install it
[07:06] <wxl> restart
[07:06] <wxl> then your wireless should be active and happy and you can put in any needed information to connect
[07:06] <mikubuntu> can you sort of walk me through it? i don't even know how to get the file onto a disk.
[07:07] <wxl> well this other computer has what os on it?
[07:07] <mikubuntu> ubuntu/edubuntu/lubuntu
[07:08] <wxl> uhhhhhh
[07:08] <wxl> triple boot?
[07:08] <mikubuntu> well, no -- it started with ubuntu, and i just added edubuntu and lubuntu
[07:08] <mikubuntu> desktop packages
[07:09] <mikubuntu> so i always session in with lubuntu
[07:09] <wxl> O_O
[07:09] <wxl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning
[07:12] <wxl> xfburn is what lubuntu uses
[07:17] <mikubuntu> ok, burning with brasero
[07:18] <mikubuntu> "success"
[07:19] <mikubuntu> ok, wxl, i have the disk placed in the target laptop
[07:21] <mikubuntu> dialogue box opens -- has one option: open in file manager
[07:21] <wxl> so now you need to install it
[07:22] <mikubuntu> sounds so easy
[07:22] <mikubuntu> :(
[07:22] <wxl> you should have gdebi i think, so you should just be able to double click on the deb file
[07:22] <wxl> you managed to install 3 different desktops didn't you? :)
[07:22] <mikubuntu> so i should open with the file manager first?
[07:22] <wxl> should work fine
[07:23] <mikubuntu> could not open the file :: the package might be corrupted or you are not allowed to open. check the permission.
[07:24] <wxl> fine, just open a terminal
[07:24] <wxl> then you need to cd to the location of the file
[07:24] <wxl> e.g. if it was in your Downloads folder, you'd use the command: cd ~/Downloads
[07:25] <wxl> where ~ is a shortcut for /home/your-username
[07:25] <wxl> stop me if i'm telling you something you already know
[07:25] <mikubuntu> open current folder in term? or open current folder as Root?
[07:26] <wxl> doesn't matter unless you have some funky situation where your user doesn't have admin access
[07:26] <mikubuntu> i'm lost
[07:27] <wxl> i wish i had time to tell you all about linux but frankly i don't
[07:27] <wxl> just pick one or the other, it doesn't matter
[07:27] <mikubuntu> the folder is in /media/lubuntu/Data disc (07 Jul 13)
[07:28] <wxl> so type:
[07:28] <wxl> cd /media/lubuntu/Data disc (07 Jul 13)
[07:29] <wxl> well
[07:29] <wxl> i guess that's not right
[07:29] <wxl> cd "/media/lubuntu/Data disc (07 Jul 13)"
[07:29] <mikubuntu> so enter in term with quotation marks?
[07:29] <wxl> yep
[07:29] <mikubuntu> ok, lemme try
[07:31] <mikubuntu> output is :: /media/lubuntu/Data disc (07 Jul 13)$
[07:32] <wxl> now:
[07:32] <wxl> sudo dpkg -i firmware[HIT TAB]
[07:32] <mikubuntu> k
[07:32] <wxl> hitting tab there should complete the rest of the filename
[07:32] <wxl> then it will ask you for your password
[07:34] <mikubuntu> errors were encountered
[07:34] <wxl> such as?
[07:35] <mikubuntu> dpkg split: error: error reading firmware-b43 ....deb Input/Output error
[07:35] <wxl> huh
[07:35] <wxl> that's weird
[07:36] <wxl> well we could do this the old fashioned way but i don't have time to explain it
[07:36] <wxl> so what i'd do, frankly, is get an ethernet cable to it
[07:37] <wxl> then it's super-easy
[07:37] <mikubuntu> ok, i've used enough of your time tonite
[07:37] <wxl> you already have the knowledge you need ot make it happen
[07:37] <wxl> you just need to install firmware-b43-installer
[07:37] <wxl> after that, you're good
[07:37] <wxl> well and a restart
[07:38] <wxl> so get that super long ethernet cable
[07:38] <wxl> gotta jet
[07:38] <mikubuntu> ok, wxl -- ty again
[10:07] <jeri> hi everyone! newbie here :)
[10:11] <jeri> what is the command to terminate a process in lubuntu?
[10:19] <jeri> Hi. is it ok to uninstall alsa in lubuntu? i got my mic working in pulseaudio it's working great, but in alsa it is muted, i have pulseaudio installed so is it safe to remove alsa?
[10:32] <tsimpson> jeri: you can not remove alsa
[10:32] <tsimpson> first, it's needed by pulse
[10:32] <tsimpson> but second, it's part of the kernel too
[10:45] <jeri> why i cannot remove alsa?
[14:15] <mikubuntu> trying to get b43 firmware installed to support broadcom wireless, but i'm having issues -- i have the .deb file loaded on a cd, but when i click to get gdebi to open get this error msg: Could not open ... The package might be corrupted or you are not allowed to open the file. Check the permissions of the file.
[14:16] <mikubuntu> in another instance, i got a msg that 'the dependencies are not satisfiable'
[14:27] <mikubuntu> ok, wait -- trying another method that someone suggested last nite -- took the laptop in another room that could reach the wired connection --- i used command 'sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer' but i get output: could not find firmware-b43-installer
[14:36] <mikubuntu> doing the updates on the install, hoping that sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer will work after updates complete
[14:59] <mikubuntu> success, wireless working
[15:33] <mikubuntu> whats a good screenshot app to install for lubuntu?
[15:34] <mikubuntu> nothing shows in the software center for 'screenshot'
[16:47] <mikubuntu> have an old dell latitude d600 -- doesn't seem to want to boot from cd drive (i thought it was faulty) or usb -- the box does, or is supposed to be able to boot from usb as i set it in one time boot -- but it isn't doing anything, and have a blank screen
[16:48] <mikubuntu> when the usb was first inserted, it blinked a few times -- but not doing anything now
[16:49] <mikubuntu> well, cursor blinking in top left, but thats all -- is there any way to trouble shoot?
[16:49] <mikubuntu> got it for $10 at a garage sale
[16:56] <mikubuntu> ran bios diagnostics, says no drive detected -- but even if there were no hdd in it wouldn't it boot on usb?
[17:09] <mikubuntu> so, trying to get this dell d600 latitude working -- won't boot from cd, won't boot from usb -- just watched this vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEeHxopvR3I) to find the hdd, and it indeed has one in it. but trying to boot from hdd computer says 'no bootable devices'
[23:46] <alainus> is there a quick & easy way to add transparency to guake ?