[01:02] <kirbaciousd> hello
[01:02] <kirbaciousd> any one here?
[01:20] <Noskcaj> !ask | kirbaciousd
[01:53] <jasonl1331> Hi, I recently booted into a new install of Ubuntu Touch and it says in a circle "No data sources available" and I can't seem to (or figure out how to) unlock it. Any help?
[01:57] <jasonl1331> Anyone?
[01:59] <rax0> jasonl1331: I just installed it myself so I'm the last person who should be answering, but if you swipe to the left another screen will slide over. If you hold on the left edge and slowly move to the right a dock will appear.
[02:00] <jasonl1331> Yeah, I see the dock come up very quickly but then its gone?
[02:00] <jasonl1331> Nexus 7 is my device
[02:00] <jasonl1331> Aha there we go!
[02:01] <rax0> if you move slowly towards the right it will stay
[02:02] <jasonl1331> Are you too on a Nexus 7?
[02:02] <rax0> galaxy nexus
[02:03] <jasonl1331> Graphics seem a bit iffy, like an Ubuntu computer install without a graphics update...
[02:04] <rax0> graphics look pretty nice to me
[02:05] <jasonl1331> Ya got an icon for Music and Videos in the apps screen?
[02:06] <rax0> no, it's just empty
[02:06] <jasonl1331> Same...
[02:07] <rax0> it still takes me to a music and video section though
[02:07] <jasonl1331> yup
[02:08] <jasonl1331> actually, all of those white icons dont work at all
[02:09] <jasonl1331> This OS is almost a dud
[02:09] <jasonl1331> Half of the clickables do nothing...
[02:10] <rax0> can't expect a lot from a developer preview
[02:10] <rax0> having a proper terminal on my phone is enough to keep me happy
[02:11] <jasonl1331> Totally wasn't aware it was a developer preview, my apologies
[02:11] <jasonl1331> Not sure what I expected anyway.
[02:12] <jasonl1331> Would've helped if I read what I was getting into I guess.
[02:12] <jasonl1331> Now I follow the guide to get back.
[03:47] <ddaygold> I installed saucy-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip, then phablet-20130412-cm_spyder.zip onto my Droid RAZR (spyder). Both md5sums are fine, but when trying to flash, I get an error of "Signature verification failed" if i enable zip file signature verification. Is this broken on my end, or is something wrong with the zipfile?
[03:47] <ddaygold> ^also, it doesn't seem to boot (blackscreen) if I turn off verification.
[04:51] <Noskcaj> QMLScene seems to be broken in xubuntu 13.10
[05:44] <Avi__> hi I am new to ubuntu
[05:45] <Avi__> can you guys guide me about Ubuntu Touch
[06:40] <omkar_> how to install ubuntu touch on raspberry pi ?
[06:42] <omkar_dba> Hi
[08:32] <BillChan> hello all
[08:38] <BillChan> I checked the pages and googled for a while. Seems Asus fonepad is not popular for ubuntu touch dev, is it true?
[09:35] <raxo> :q!
 Guys, is there any way to view the Components of an app when I'm running it?
 i.e. if I click on that button, it shows me the name and such
 In QtCreator that is
[09:37] <smartboyhw> I accidentally pasted it to release channel, but anyways, someone plz answer
[09:37]  * smartboyhw pings popey :P
[09:40] <user82> hi popey. could you please point me to the instructions how to set up mobile data on nexus 4 again? thanks!
[09:41] <smartboyhw> Forget about it, I think I should work on Clock autopilot instead of Calc autopilot:P
[09:43] <user82> or if someone else could tell me how to get mobile data up, that would be nice!
[09:45] <rigved> user82: are you referring to these instructions: https://plus.google.com/100264483712374857174/posts/3o1tjYo9Ghx ?
[09:45] <user82> that's it. thx rigved
[09:45] <rigved> user82: welcome :)
[09:47] <user82> adb is always enabled in ubuntu touch, am i correct?
[09:53] <ogra_> yes
[09:54] <ogra_> (for the moment :) )
[10:04] <nik90> smartboyhw: feel free to ping me in case you have question regarding clock autopilot :D
[10:05] <smartboyhw> nik90, great:) I'm doing one to add an alarm:D
[10:08] <nik90> smartboyhw: I wouldn't recommend that test
[10:09] <nik90> smartboyhw: the alarm UI needs to be revamped which will break tests next week itself. I would recommend starting on Timer and Stopwatch which are complete and stable as of now.
[10:09] <nik90> clock is also ready
[10:09] <user82> hi. what does this mean? "Error: Connection activation failed: The connection was not supported by oFono."
[10:10] <user82> i tried nmcli to activate it
[10:10] <smartboyhw> nik90, ...
[10:10] <smartboyhw> lol
[10:11] <nik90> smartboyhw: sry
[10:11] <smartboyhw> nik90, there's one left not alarm in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bugs?field.tag=needs-autopilot-test then
[10:11] <nik90> smartboyhw: Alarms is been in my backburner for a long time. The platform API is not ready for it so I have not been motivated to fix its ui
[10:12] <smartboyhw> nik90, I can only do one test then:9
[10:12] <nik90> smartboyhw: you can do the add/remove timer preset test
[10:12] <smartboyhw> nik90, what's the expected steps for that test?
[10:12] <nik90> smartboyhw: also the run timer preset test is available
[10:13] <nik90> smartboyhw: 1. Swipe the toolbar, press Add Preset 2. Rotate clock hands and enter preset name. 3. Press the Done Button
[10:13] <nik90> You can check if it actually added the preset by checking the saved timer preset listView
[10:14] <smartboyhw> nik90, ah OK
[10:19] <smartboyhw> nik90, what's the method called by autopilot to swipe the  toolbar?
[10:20] <nik90> smartboyhw: You need to write one :)
[10:20] <smartboyhw> nik90, :O
[10:20] <smartboyhw> .....
[10:20]  * smartboyhw thinks he will rather copy from other apps
[10:20] <smartboyhw> :P
[10:20] <nik90> smartboyhw: or even better you can import nicholas skaags's ubuntu sdk emulator which provides common autopilot functions
[10:20] <smartboyhw> nik90, yeah, why didn't you guys do that?
[10:21] <nik90> smartboyhw: because there was another dev who was actually trying to get those functions into the official sdk package
[10:21] <smartboyhw> nik90, ah
[10:21] <smartboyhw> Well, he should:p
[10:21] <nik90> so I thoght of waiting for them to land in the sdk rather than do something temporary
[10:21] <nik90> however the dev ran into some issues.
[10:22] <nik90> so it will be delayed for about 2 weeks
[10:23] <smartboyhw> nik90, heck, it's much more easier in there:P
[10:23] <nik90> smartboyhw: true
[10:25] <smartboyhw> nik90, em, but that will mean I have to rewrite the other tests too.
[10:25] <smartboyhw> Since it's now fully rebased
[10:25] <smartboyhw> And some functions don't exist anymore
[10:26] <nik90> smartboyhw: if you want you can copy only the toolbar emulator functions from nicholas skaags and paste it.
[10:26] <nik90> You can use this for now to perform the autopilot tests you need
[10:27] <nik90> later when they land in the sdk, it will be simple to remove the copied emulator functions alone
[12:06] <nik90> popey: Can I go ahead and disable Alarms tab until it is ready? Until I have bug reports, comments stating that the Alarms do not work as expected. But that is because it has not been implemented yet. What would your advice be?
[12:07] <nik90> I also meant *Until now, I have been receiving bug report, comments,....*
[12:13] <liquidsebbey> hello everyone!
[12:13] <liquidsebbey> LiquidSebbey from Netherlands here! Welcome!
[12:38] <smartboyhw> nik90, still here?
[12:44] <liquidsebbey> i have an Android 2.3 old samsung device. can i port ubuntu to it?
[13:26] <asac> ogra_: any idea how i can check whether i am on a gsm/gprs or 3g wwan?
[13:26] <asac> ok guess getting a 50ms ping means its a hsdpa/3g
[13:28] <asac> lool-: where can i find those logs myself?
[13:37] <ogra_> asac, check the default route and which device it points to
[13:37] <ogra_> (route -n)
[13:37] <asac> it uses rmnet0 ...
[13:37] <asac> still wonder if i am on 2g or 3g
[13:38] <ogra_> hmm, probably cyphermox can tell i  dont even have a SIM :)
[13:38] <asac> lol
[13:38] <asac> ogra_: where can i file bugs?
[13:38] <asac> for a) webrowser not supporting GPS
[13:39] <[SLB]> some time ago i installed ubuntu on my nexus 4, then recovered my android installation thru twrp. now i just realised i have an ubuntu folder under /data. is it completely safe to remove?
[13:39] <asac> b) camera app having artifacts and being upside down if i go to "self camera" mode
[13:39] <ogra_> webbrowser-app is in the archive ... make your pick :)
[13:39] <asac> yeah ... just one bug... feels odd :)
[13:39] <ogra_> camera-spp too
[13:39] <asac> ogra_: can i take screenshots?
[13:39] <asac> or even make a video :)
[13:39] <asac> ?
[13:40] <ogra_> i think so, there was a way to do it via adb
[13:40] <asac> yeah on android ther eis
[13:40] <zeokila> asac, http://blog.shvetsov.com/2013/02/grab-android-screenshot-to-computer-via.html
[13:40] <ogra_> well, it is there too on flipped, but you need to give it the full path
[13:40] <ogra_> (/system isnt in the path, it could override some ubuntu defaults)
[13:42] <zeokila> So that means it would be 'adb shell /system/bin/screencap -p /sdcard/screen.png' instead?
[13:42] <ogra_> something like that ... rather /data/screen.png though
[13:42] <zeokila> Ok
[13:43] <ogra_> (or just store it in /root .... we dont have /sdcard in the flipped images atm
[13:43] <ogra_> )
[13:43]  * asac tries
[13:44] <asac> wow ... works :)
[13:44] <asac> lol
[13:44] <ogra_> :)
[13:44] <asac> let me see if it captures the artifacts
[13:45] <asac> lol
[13:45] <asac> the artifacts are gone :)
[13:45] <asac> guess poking the framebuffer fixed whatever situation here was
[13:45] <ogra_> nice, so we should jjst replace the camera app with schreenshorts
[13:45] <asac> and i am also not upside down anymore
[13:45] <asac> :)
[13:45] <ogra_> gave up on the handstand ?
[13:46] <ogra_> :)
[13:46] <asac> good at least mail.yahoo.com just stoppin gwith a weird animation is reproducible in browser and GPS still doesnt work
[13:46] <asac> ogra_: is that supposed to work?
[13:46] <ogra_> no idea
[13:47] <ogra_> location services are surely in the platform-api
[13:47] <ogra_> but no idea which apps can use it yet
[13:47] <asac> yeah. well. browser also needs to implement a user ack mechanism that allows user to share/not share location
[13:47] <asac> guess thatsw missing
[13:48] <ogra_> definitely
[13:48] <asac> still a bit concenred that there is no realy usable network UI
[13:48] <ogra_> app wise there is still a lot of stuff missing
[13:48] <ogra_> especially for the permissions
[13:48] <asac> right
[13:48] <asac> saw a bunch of apparmor things
[13:48] <ogra_> NM will change massively as soon as we use lightdm
[13:48] <asac> like basic dhcp stuff
[13:48] <asac> confined
[13:48] <ogra_> our session doesnt integrate with systemd yet
[13:49] <ogra_> s/system/login/
[13:49] <asac> that will fix that we have no UI etc.?
[13:49] <ogra_> that cause somw weird NM probs
[13:49] <asac> ah
[13:49] <asac> maybe... for polkit stuff
[13:49] <asac> right
[13:49] <asac> but the UI etc. seems to be just no there
[13:49] <ogra_> no, thats a matter of implementation :)
[13:49] <ogra_> right
[13:50] <asac> oh right ... polkit is now logind?
[13:50] <ogra_> well, consolekit is
[13:50] <ogra_> polkit is still the same but uses CK/ligind
[13:51] <ogra_> anyway, i need to run ...
[13:51]  * ogra_ goes to pick up GF about 160km from here 
[13:51] <asac> kk
[13:51] <ogra_> back in 2-3h
[13:51] <asac> drive carefully
[13:51] <asac> :)
[13:52] <ogra_> well, i have to ... it in the middle of nowhere in the "ostharz" .... lots of slalom over bumpy roads
[13:52] <asac> take care
[13:52] <asac> ttyl
[13:52] <ogra_> (worse than eastern europe)
[13:52] <asac> dont be a racist :)
[13:53] <ogra_> lol,, roadist rather :P
[13:53] <asac> right
[13:53] <asac> :)
[13:53] <asac> roadpatriot
[13:53] <ogra_> LOL
[13:53] <asac> guess rather roadparrot
[13:53] <asac> cu
[13:53] <ogra_> bye
[14:15] <zeokila> Are there any system wide assets to use?
[14:47] <Aylward> hello all!
[14:50] <Aylward> help
[14:50] <Aylward> !triggers
[14:52] <Aylward> hello is anyone here?
[14:52] <Aylward> !
[14:53] <Aylward> i have touch installed on nexus 4... having problems with phone function
[14:54] <Aylward> any moderators?
[14:54] <Aylward> how do i join?
[14:59] <nik90> Aylward: you might want to ask your question again on Monday for more responses
[14:59] <nik90> its sunday:-)
[15:00] <Aylward> thank you nik90
[15:00] <Aylward> I thought there was something wrong with the channel
[15:02] <Aylward> anyone having any luck running touch on the nexus 4?
[15:04] <zeokila> Yup
[15:04] <zeokila> What's your problem with it?
[15:04] <Aylward> ive got it loaded ok but cant get the phone to function
[15:04] <zeokila> Have you desactivated the sim code?
[15:04] <Aylward> or the system settings
[15:04] <Aylward> ahhh
[15:05] <zeokila> System settings has a lot which is 'dummy' content
[15:05] <Aylward> no i gues i should read before postin dumb questions huh
[15:05] <zeokila> And to desactivate the sim code you'll need to go back into android
[15:05] <Aylward> ok cool
[15:05] <zeokila> or find another phone you can stick it in to desactivate
[15:05] <Aylward> awesome
[15:06] <Aylward> where should i look for instructions?
[15:06] <zeokila> To go back to Android?
[15:06] <Aylward> no to deactivate sim code
[15:06] <Aylward> im running tmobile
[15:06] <zeokila> Well you can't currently do it from Ubuntu touch
[15:07] <Aylward> i have another nexus 4
[15:07] <zeokila> Well put the sim card in it, reboot and enter the sim card
[15:07] <Aylward> how to enter sim card?
[15:08] <zeokila> then you go into something like system settings > security > sim lock? (i can't really remember but it's self explanitory) and uncheck lock sim card or something like that
[15:08] <zeokila> physically enter it
[15:08] <zeokila> put the sim card in it
[15:08] <Aylward> oh ok thanks much zeokila
[15:08] <zeokila> np
[15:23] <BillChan> user82: hello
[15:58] <ddaygold> I installed saucy-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip, then phablet-20130412-cm_spyder.zip onto my Droid RAZR (spyder). Both md5sums are fine, but when trying to flash, I get an error of "Signature verification failed" if i enable zip file signature verification. Is this broken on my end, or is something wrong with the zipfile?
[15:58] <ddaygold> ^also, it doesn't seem to boot (blackscreen) if I turn off verification.
[16:48] <snwh> is there a command to reload the unity touch shell?
[17:24] <zeokila> snwh, run 'unity8', I think that does the job
[17:59] <askone> hello
[17:59] <askone> i have a question
[18:00] <askone> will ububtu touch usable as a desktop pc, if your phone has a hdmi port and the ability to recognise usb mouse and keyboard
[18:06] <AskUbuntu> How can I write apps with java for ubuntu phone? | http://askubuntu.com/q/317486
[18:11] <snwh> zeokila, thanks
[18:26] <zeokila> askone, I *think* I heard that that will be possible somewhere, but don't take my word for it
[19:02] <jondecker76> Can anyone help me uninstall UT from my nexus 7?  I have the original file needed, but ADB refuses to see the tablet.  I had the same problem when I loaded UT initially.  Finally i noticed that i missed a signing notification in android, accepted the key then it worked.  Its now happening all over again but in reverse - and now android isn't there to addept the key
[19:03] <jondecker76> *accept
[19:04] <jondecker76> I'm attempting this on the same Ubuntu 13.04 install that I flashed UT from, so there is no reason the key should have changed
[19:04] <jondecker76> but running adb devices just retuns a blank list.  lsusb shows that the nexus 7 is indeed being picked up via USB
[19:05] <jondecker76> if I go to recovery mode from the bootloader,  adb devices will return a bunch of question marks for the serial number and states a permissions problem
[19:06] <jondecker76> running adb kill-server and retrying has no effect on the situation either
[19:06] <netcurli_> jondecker76: if you have question marks, you can try running adb start-server as root
[19:08] <jondecker76> i've tried root; no luck :(
[19:14] <jondecker76> I literally spent a full day getting UT installed for this reason.  I'm completely baffled as to why ADB or fastboot can't see the device???
[19:16] <jondecker76> and now that android is not there, I have no way of accepting a key file
[19:40] <zeokila> jondecker, have you try starting the server with sudo adb start-server
[19:41] <zeokila> root permissions often helps me with it