| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 08:37 |
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| MartijnVdS | \o brobostigon | 08:40 |
| brobostigon | morning MartijnVdS | 08:40 |
| MartijnVdS | another day to play with WPA-Enterprise 8-) | 08:41 |
| brobostigon | :) | 08:41 |
| MartijnVdS | oh and to charge my kindle | 08:49 |
| brobostigon | a normal kindle, or a tablet kindle, but the latter isnt so good, so more likely to be the former. | 08:50 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: it's the old normal kindle | 08:51 |
| MartijnVdS | (post-keyboard but pre-paperwhite) | 08:52 |
| brobostigon | good, :) | 08:52 |
| MartijnVdS | and the charge is free! | 08:52 |
| MartijnVdS | (yay sunlight) | 08:52 |
| MartijnVdS | http://www.voltaicsystems.com/fuse4w.shtml | 08:52 |
| brobostigon | :) | 08:52 |
| brobostigon | yay for EM radiation. | 08:53 |
| MartijnVdS | Finally, a use for the big bright light in the blue room | 08:54 |
| MartijnVdS | :P | 08:54 |
| brobostigon | and gamma rays and photons. | 08:54 |
| SuperMatt | https://cloud.supermatt.net/public.php?service=files&t=41bd142409caec36ad02a9c34f965d25 <- well all right! | 11:00 |
| SuperMatt | oh, and there's another 1TB not mounted because it has my windows games | 11:01 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperMatt: lots of spinning rust! ;) | 11:01 |
| SuperMatt | yup! | 11:04 |
| * MartijnVdS is playing with certtool from gnutls | 11:04 | |
| SuperMatt | well, I was just coming up to the edge of the 5TB I did have | 11:04 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperMatt: I'm having a hard time filling up 2TB.. | 11:05 |
| SuperMatt | I hoard a lot of TV programs and stuff | 11:07 |
| SuperMatt | oh and porn, always porn | 11:08 |
| MartijnVdS | sure but 4.9TB of it 8-) | 11:09 |
| redtape|renegade | Afternoon guys. | 11:21 |
| redtape|renegade | OT | One question today : Andy Murray or Novak Djokovic Today ? Everyone seems to awaiting the bad news of the final .. #wimbledon | 11:33 |
| MartijnVdS | redtape|renegade: I'm listening to F1 | 11:35 |
| redtape|renegade | in wat language ? Pirrelli ? | 11:35 |
| redtape|renegade | :0 | 11:36 |
| MartijnVdS | redtape|renegade: whatever they speak on BBC R5SX | 11:38 |
| redtape|renegade | redtape scans for BBC R5SX ... | 11:38 |
| MartijnVdS | redtape|renegade: "Radio 5 sports extra" | 11:39 |
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| redtape|renegade | MartijnVdS: Nice & seems legit :: http://bit.ly/1a3cz1H ::: Last time I listened was the Olympics. | 11:42 |
| MartijnVdS | redtape|renegade: I'm receiving it from a FreeSat transponder on Astra 2.. of course it's legit :) | 11:44 |
| redtape|renegade | Oh, it says 'cant play due to rights restrictions' .. Sooooo it's playing yesterday's footie review .. can't get satellite as I don't own a Tele... | 11:44 |
| MartijnVdS | redtape|renegade: you can get a dish and sat card for your PC :) | 11:44 |
| MartijnVdS | redtape|renegade: isn't it on DVB-T as well? | 11:44 |
| MartijnVdS | (freeview) | 11:45 |
| redtape|renegade | dunno .. but redtape doesn't believe in the promise of television .. prefer radio, by far. | 11:45 |
| MartijnVdS | there are more radio stations than TV stations on free{sat,view} ;) | 11:46 |
| brobostigon | yep :) | 11:47 |
| redtape|renegade | I believe so .. but it's miniscule compared to radio on t'internet .. :: http://bit.ly/13CDst6 :: My Dad is getting the cheque for selling his TV firm on Monday due to on-line sales & PC World competition .. but TV has always been a 'product' for someone' else in my family. | 11:50 |
| redtape|renegade | I gave some DeNiro to :: http://open.commonly.cc/ :: be nice if they could reach their target .. they've been going 12 days so far .. | 11:55 |
| redtape|renegade | I going to give to wm8650 attempt on Linux another try , if I can get it for £15 (P&P incl.) :: http://r.ebay.com/qZavXs :: but it's a long shot using Arch|ARM .. | 11:59 |
| penguin42 | redtape|renegade: It's an ARM9 core - don't bother | 12:04 |
| penguin42 | redtape|renegade: Now, if you're a good guy mechanically then using that chassis for a beagleboard:black would be more useful | 12:06 |
| redtape|renegade | penguin42: It's a technical experiment that has been proved before ..(see link at end).. if it works then I'll get one hundred and fifty of the same type for £5 each, which will go to the 3rdworld/charity. [ http://bit.ly/1a3gM5s ] i.e. It's not for me. | 12:21 |
| penguin42 | redtape|renegade: I'm not sure it's worth it frankly; they're really really shit chips | 12:40 |
| redtape|renegade | penguin42: Yeah, yur prob.ly right .. just had a grand lying around with nothing to-do. Kinda glad I'm not top bidder now. | 12:48 |
| penguin42 | redtape|renegade: Yeh it's terrible when it's burning a hole in your bank account | 12:50 |
| * redtape|renegade re-looksie's at the #LSE to get solaptops instead. | 12:51 | |
| redtape|renegade | OT | redtape likes the new Alan Partridge Film .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRivx-wEaiE .. Anyone seen it yet .& when's it gonna be on DVD ? | 12:58 |
| redtape|renegade | MartijnVdS: Cameraman down .. ::: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTA05RezBac&feature=youtu.be ::: | 13:21 |
| MartijnVdS | redtape|renegade: yes that was early in the race | 13:24 |
| redtape|renegade | MartijnVdS: I can't wait for a tweetpic of the black eye :D | 13:35 |
| dogmatic69 | I am trying to record some screen casts and have tried recordmydesktop with openshop video editor to put it together. But some sections of the output are stuck. | 13:51 |
| dogmatic69 | Like the first 1 min of the video is the same frame, then it starts working | 13:51 |
| dogmatic69 | anyone got better apps for this, or know what could be going on? | 13:51 |
| dogmatic69 | it seems to be the openshot video that is breaking things | 13:53 |
| dogmatic69 | the output from recordmydesktop seems fine | 13:54 |
| penguin42 | tried ptivi? | 13:56 |
| penguin42 | also kino and kdenlive | 13:56 |
| dogmatic69 | nope, will try now | 13:56 |
| dogmatic69 | it may just be the format, recordmydesktop spits out ovg or something. | 13:56 |
| dogmatic69 | might be good to make it avi or something normal | 13:56 |
| dogmatic69 | ptivi seems better already. | 13:59 |
| dogmatic69 | thanks penguin42 | 13:59 |
| penguin42 | no prob | 13:59 |
| dogmatic69 | man, so much smoother. openshot was pushing the CPU thought the roof and could not even show the preview properly. | 14:01 |
| dogmatic69 | Can't belive it made 45k on kickstarter | 14:02 |
| dogmatic69 | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/421164014/openshot-video-editor-for-windows-mac-and-linux/posts | 14:02 |
| penguin42 | no one said kickstarter selected for sanity | 14:05 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69: There seem to be a lot of video editors all of which have some down side; it would seem better to share some more | 14:14 |
| dogmatic69 | they should just join forces | 14:15 |
| penguin42 | yeh, although it's not too bad to have some competition between them - it helps push forward | 14:16 |
| dogmatic69 | sure, but its not exactly a huge market | 14:16 |
| mgdm | and it's a hard problem | 14:16 |
| dogmatic69 | like IDE's or something | 14:17 |
| dogmatic69 | ye | 14:17 |
| dwatkins | Does anyone happen to know the name of the CD/DVD Creator application, so I can start it manually, please? | 14:17 |
| * penguin42 would use k3b | 14:17 | |
| dwatkins | I renamed a directory and now it won't start when I try to send it to it | 14:17 |
| dwatkins | penguin42: yeah, I'm almost at that stage myself, Unity not letting me move the launcher etc. | 14:18 |
| penguin42 | mgdm: I think the other problem is that there seem to be two separate focuses 'simple' and 'pro' where the simple are for those of us who just want to edit a quick clip we took of something, and the pro's want to make a small film | 14:19 |
| penguin42 | dwatkins: You can use k3b in gnome as well | 14:19 |
| mgdm | ah yes | 14:19 |
| dwatkins | aha thanks penguin42 | 14:19 |
| * dwatkins gives up on CD/DVD creator | 14:19 | |
| redtape|renegade | OT | Just having a look at Audioboo to give proper audio messages on twitter ... Anyone tried it ? :: https://twitter.com/audioboo :: | 14:31 |
| oly | anyone here have a suggestion for a good device for outdoor use, thats portables and around 400 | 14:36 |
| oly | main requirements are gtk, so i can run apps like inkscape and geany | 14:37 |
| oly | so no ubuntu touch unless x11 and gtk will be coming soon :) | 14:37 |
| oly | dell xps 10 looks like good potential but i can not find much about compatibility | 14:38 |
| penguin42 | oly: I don't think you have much chance with ARM based Windows tablets | 14:40 |
| redtape|renegade | oly: You'd better get onto ebay.co.uk and take yur pick from these .. :: https://friendly.ubuntu.com/ :: but I always recommenmd system 76 | 14:40 |
| penguin42 | oly: Android tablets are more hackable because in the end they're running Linux already (and I think Windows on ARM are very locked down) | 14:40 |
| oly | yeah tempted with android, but the only option is ubuntu touch ? | 14:41 |
| oly | ie no gtk or X apps | 14:41 |
| penguin42 | oly: It depends.... | 14:41 |
| redtape|renegade | is it a tablet you are after ? | 14:41 |
| oly | tablet or small laptop, | 14:41 |
| oly | something portable, only for some hacking / graphics when i am about | 14:42 |
| oly | i have a 17 inch laptop it ways a tone :p | 14:42 |
| penguin42 | oly: It's very variable by tablet /hardware - most of them you can persuade to run a chroot with Linux, getting X to work depends on the exact driver - I've got X just about tottering along on an ereader | 14:42 |
| penguin42 | oly: But also getting power saving to work as well as Android is very difficult | 14:42 |
| oly | yeah, i know thats why i am asking about :) | 14:42 |
| penguin42 | oly: Ubuntu Touch might not be a bad bet with Mir, as I understand there is an X backend'd by Mir - would be an interesting thing to try | 14:43 |
| redtape|renegade | oly. I'd just save up for a haswell in Q3~13, unless it's time critical ? | 14:43 |
| oly | yeah but i dont know how far of that is, no point getting it if i have to wait a year to run the apps i am after | 14:44 |
| penguin42 | oly: nod | 14:44 |
| penguin42 | oly: Maybe Asus transformer ? | 14:44 |
| penguin42 | oly: Or one of the x86 tablets | 14:45 |
| oly | asus transformer looks good, but not sure its proper x86 apps ? | 14:45 |
| oly | whats the haswell redtape|renegade ? | 14:45 |
| penguin42 | oly: It's not it's ARM | 14:46 |
| penguin42 | oly: So get an x86 tablet? | 14:46 |
| oly | x86 tablet is an option but they all seem to be windows uefi, and not found one thats known to work :p | 14:46 |
| oly | i was hoping someone may have such a device which they are using :) | 14:46 |
| penguin42 | UEFI in itself isn't such a problem - I think the x86 uefi's MS says you're supposed to be able to install your own stuff - not sure about the practice, or how well the touch works | 14:47 |
| penguin42 | oly: But if you want to run inkscape/gnome there is no reason to restrict to x86 - they should work fine on ARM | 14:48 |
| oly | true, just reading about the transformer again | 14:48 |
| redtape|renegade | penguin42: Maybe it's good with other optional prog.s .. althou I find use of a Transformer with Ubuntu .. as of yet .. ::: http://bit.ly/16gp85u :: | 14:49 |
| redtape|renegade | oly. Can you not just cross-search the ubuntu friendly page with an auction site and install ubuntu via there ? | 14:50 |
| oly | maybe but the ubuntu friendly site does not tell you about the machines quickly, weight size etc | 14:52 |
| oly | i dont want another brick :) | 14:53 |
| oly | got one already :-D | 14:53 |
| penguin42 | haha - what did you brick? | 14:53 |
| penguin42 | oh, you mean brick by weight? | 14:53 |
| oly | yeah, got a dell 17 studio works beautifully but i can just pop it into a bag and carry it around all day | 14:55 |
| penguin42 | oly: The other question is how something like inkscape works with a touchscreen - touchscreens are a bit weird when you try themn on existing apps | 14:55 |
| oly | well inkscape says it supports touch | 14:56 |
| oly | i remember using inkscape and gimp on my n900 that worked, if very fiddly on a small screen :) | 14:57 |
| penguin42 | ok yeh | 14:57 |
| redtape|renegade | The brief seems quite constrictive to answer, IMHO. | 15:01 |
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| mgdm | \o/ \o/ \o/ | 16:29 |
| Pendulum | yay! | 16:29 |
| mgdm | Until last year I didn't give two hoots about tennis, that has changed :-) | 16:29 |
| Pendulum | haha | 16:30 |
| Pendulum | I was staying with friends outside Manchester who are big tennis fans in 2005 when he had his surprising run after Henman got knocked out. | 16:31 |
| Pendulum | That's what got me interested in tennis at all. | 16:31 |
| penguin42 | Pendulum: Tennis must be good for you - all that swinging back and foward looking at one player and then the other | 16:33 |
| Pendulum | haha | 16:33 |
| mgdm | that's not really how it's filmed, though. it's more of an up-and-down eye movement. :P | 16:34 |
| penguin42 | it's like Snooker, I never figure why with widescreen they don't just turn the camera around and have it going across | 16:45 |
| mgdm | I suspect with tennis it's because a lot of the interesting/important lines are the ones down the sides | 16:50 |
| mgdm | so it's easier to see the way it's filmed | 16:50 |
| mgdm | also, probably in part "because that's the way they've always done it" | 16:51 |
| Pendulum | For tennis I think you're definitely right regarding being able to see angles. | 16:51 |
| redtape|renegade | OT | Soooo Tim wins at Tennis .. who'd a thunk it ! | 16:53 |
| mgdm | Yes, that is what happened. | 16:53 |
| redtape|renegade | Just realised it's 77years since last UK champion and it is the 7/7 today .. #just-sayin' | 17:04 |
| penguin42 | Stockport will be upset, their Fred Perry way will be outdated now | 17:11 |
| * redtape|renegade tries to find a fitting conspiracy :: https://twitter.com/thetracyaustin/status/353925986842181632 :: #7thHeaven | 17:20 | |
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| bigcalm | Good afternoon peeps :) | 17:53 |
| brobostigon | evening bigcalm | 17:54 |
| dogmatic69 | After updating to 13.04 from 12.04 printing has gone south. Now I get some margin top/left I cant seem to clear. | 18:02 |
| dogmatic69 | anyone have ideas for that? | 18:02 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69: Even on the test page? | 18:09 |
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| StevenR | hrrmph. Anyone in central Scotland and use Freeview? (Trying to determine if there's a problem with Black Hill (Lanarkshire) transmitter) | 18:29 |
| redtape|renegade | StevenR: The last time I used tv was two years ago .. but good luck with your question. | 18:30 |
| penguin42 | StevenR: https://www.radioandtvhelp.co.uk/diagnostic/?id=IRDPIBK4IQ7HGHTA4D7HV584G6&uid=218553210 ? | 18:30 |
| StevenR | penguin42: thanks, I've already been down that route. They say "no reported problems". TBH, I suspect local antenna issue, but I was hoping to find someone else how happened to recive from the same transmitter | 18:32 |
| StevenR | *who happened | 18:32 |
| dwatkins | I don't even have an aerial; I'm in Edinburgh. | 18:41 |
| mgdm | StevenR: I'm pretty sure I'm on Black hill and it's fine | 18:53 |
| directhex | moop | 18:54 |
| StevenR | mgdm: thanks. Looking at other antennas, I might be on Craigkelly, but I don't know which antenna is mine | 18:55 |
| mgdm | StevenR: some boxes will tell you the transmitter ID | 18:56 |
| StevenR | mgdm: I'm not getting anything at all :) | 18:56 |
| mgdm | or you could work it out from the frequencies of the multiplexes | 18:56 |
| mgdm | (when it works, yes :) | 18:56 |
| mgdm | StevenR: or one way to tell is if you get the Glasgow or Edinburgh version of the STV News at Six :) | 18:57 |
| StevenR | yeah. Mythtv can probably tell me that, but it doesn't find a single channel | 18:57 |
| brobostigon | i wonder what they will do with new top gear ep, with the tennis still going on, hopefully thwy will ditch the tennis. | 18:59 |
| mgdm | I'd hope they'd move Top Gear | 18:59 |
| mgdm | it's not live | 18:59 |
| mgdm | Facebook is asking me to rate my office (as I've tagged photos there) | 19:00 |
| brobostigon | i find top gear significantly more entertaining, and also, when not move the tennix to bbc 1 ? | 19:00 |
| brobostigon | why not* | 19:00 |
| brobostigon | and delay country file? | 19:01 |
| brobostigon | or stick the tennis onto bbc3 or 4? | 19:01 |
| mgdm | BBC1 is their 'main'c hannel | 19:01 |
| brobostigon | by that same argument, country file is also pre-recorded. so they can shift that. | 19:02 |
| mgdm | They have contingencies for these things | 19:03 |
| mgdm | not sure what they are though | 19:03 |
| brobostigon | like sticking stuff onto red buttons, and online. | 19:03 |
| brobostigon | which it seems they have. | 19:04 |
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| HoT|2fC^ | <HoT|2fC^> Can anybody tell me how I would boot a .IMG (pfSense-2.0.3-RELEASE-1g-i386-nanobsd-20130412-1022.img) how can I boot this or run this on my machine? | 19:28 |
| HoT|2fC^ | <HoT|2fC^> I have blank DVD-R's. | 19:28 |
| HoT|2fC^ | I want to do this BSD Router :) | 19:28 |
| MartijnVdS | HoT|2fC^: what does 'file' say? | 19:29 |
| MartijnVdS | HoT|2fC^: file blah.img | 19:29 |
| HoT|2fC^ | MartijnVdS ^^ Above mate :) | 19:29 |
| HoT|2fC^ | I wan't to run pfSense 2.0.3 Relaese. | 19:30 |
| MartijnVdS | HoT|2fC^: yes.. run the command "file pfSense-2.0.3-RELEASE-1g-i386-nanobsd-20130412-1022.img" please :) | 19:30 |
| MartijnVdS | and paste the output | 19:30 |
| HoT|2fC^ | Ok brb jumping on my Ubuntu machine :) | 19:30 |
| HoT|2fC^ | thanks MartijnVdS | 19:31 |
| MartijnVdS | HoT|2fC^: that's not good for most hardware :P | 19:31 |
| MartijnVdS | HoT|2fC^: "file" will just tell you what kind of file it is | 19:31 |
| HoT|2fC^ | what isnt ? | 19:31 |
| MartijnVdS | jumping on a computer is bad for the computer :P | 19:31 |
| HoT|2fC^ | ah cool I want to run it :) maybe test? | 19:31 |
| HoT|2fC^ | MartijnVdS hahah yeah it is idd | 19:31 |
| MartijnVdS | HoT|2fC^: no, if "file" says it's an iso-9660 or UDF image, you can burn it to CD or DVD by opening "brasero" and loading the image and burning it | 19:31 |
| HoT|2fC^ | ah ok MartijnVdS I will go and double check now :) thanks.. brb. | 19:32 |
| MartijnVdS | if it's a "partition table" or "file system" of some kind, you need to "dd" it to an USB stick, or a partition on $same | 19:32 |
| HoT|2fC^ | :o | 19:32 |
| MartijnVdS | (partition table to the device, so /dev/sdz for example; file system to the partition, so /dev/sdz1 for instance) | 19:33 |
| HoT|2fC^ | ah ok ok :) | 19:33 |
| MartijnVdS | but it's probably an ISO image | 19:33 |
| HoT|2fC^ | Well I tried to do it here on my Windows box but its not happending. | 19:33 |
| HoT|2fC^ | using Deamontools etc.. and other type of programmes | 19:34 |
| MartijnVdS | weird, burning ISOs to disc is built into Windows Vista and up | 19:34 |
| HoT|2fC^ | VMware | 19:34 |
| MartijnVdS | just right-click and burn | 19:34 |
| MartijnVdS | it's a vmware image? | 19:34 |
| HoT|2fC^ | nono I want to try it :) | 19:34 |
| MartijnVdS | oh :) | 19:34 |
| HoT|2fC^ | never mind I have that Oracle VM VirtualBox | 19:35 |
| HoT|2fC^ | :) | 19:35 |
| MartijnVdS | woo, radius accounting is working now \o/ | 19:38 |
| popey | ebenink! | 19:47 |
| MartijnVdS | hi popey | 19:49 |
| brobostigon | yay, my dad has brought me back a bottle of talisker from his trip, :) | 19:50 |
| mgdm | \o/ | 19:50 |
| brobostigon | yay | 19:51 |
| brobostigon | will be yummy. | 19:51 |
| brobostigon | hip flask refill, me thinks. | 19:51 |
| mgdm | I got a hip flask and a bottle of Talisker for my birthday | 19:52 |
| mgdm | I've not *yet* put the two together | 19:52 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: have you ordered Broeders or Dark Roast yet? :) | 19:52 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: it will have to wait roughly a week, for more money. | 19:54 |
| brobostigon | delivary cost is my worry. | 19:55 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: yeah, that's a bit steep.. international shipping :( | 19:55 |
| MartijnVdS | maybe they could get a discount if they shipped a shipping container at once.. :) | 19:56 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: certainly, that my worry. and my main reason why i might not. | 19:56 |
| * MartijnVdS should write up the steps to set up freeradius + WPA-enterprise | 20:01 | |
| ^2fC | :o | 20:02 |
| ^2fC | Sounds interesting MartijnVdS :D | 20:02 |
| ^2fC | I just come on my Linux box took me a while lol, had something to eat and drink first :D | 20:02 |
| popey | L4D2 TIME! | 20:53 |
| MartijnVdS | nah, Zzz o'clock | 20:54 |
| popey | nn | 20:55 |
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