[08:37] good morning everyone, [08:40] \o brobostigon [08:40] morning MartijnVdS [08:41] another day to play with WPA-Enterprise 8-) [08:41] :) [08:49] oh and to charge my kindle [08:50] a normal kindle, or a tablet kindle, but the latter isnt so good, so more likely to be the former. [08:51] brobostigon: it's the old normal kindle [08:52] (post-keyboard but pre-paperwhite) [08:52] good, :) [08:52] and the charge is free! [08:52] (yay sunlight) [08:52] http://www.voltaicsystems.com/fuse4w.shtml [08:52] :) [08:53] yay for EM radiation. [08:54] Finally, a use for the big bright light in the blue room [08:54] :P [08:54] and gamma rays and photons. [11:00] https://cloud.supermatt.net/public.php?service=files&t=41bd142409caec36ad02a9c34f965d25 <- well all right! [11:01] oh, and there's another 1TB not mounted because it has my windows games [11:01] SuperMatt: lots of spinning rust! ;) [11:04] yup! [11:04] * MartijnVdS is playing with certtool from gnutls [11:04] well, I was just coming up to the edge of the 5TB I did have [11:05] SuperMatt: I'm having a hard time filling up 2TB.. [11:07] I hoard a lot of TV programs and stuff [11:08] oh and porn, always porn [11:09] sure but 4.9TB of it 8-) [11:21] Afternoon guys. [11:33] OT | One question today : Andy Murray or Novak Djokovic Today ? Everyone seems to awaiting the bad news of the final .. #wimbledon [11:35] redtape|renegade: I'm listening to F1 [11:35] in wat language ? Pirrelli ? [11:36] :0 [11:38] redtape|renegade: whatever they speak on BBC R5SX [11:38] redtape scans for BBC R5SX ... [11:39] redtape|renegade: "Radio 5 sports extra" === emmy is now known as Guest5350 [11:42] MartijnVdS: Nice & seems legit :: http://bit.ly/1a3cz1H ::: Last time I listened was the Olympics. [11:44] redtape|renegade: I'm receiving it from a FreeSat transponder on Astra 2.. of course it's legit :) [11:44] Oh, it says 'cant play due to rights restrictions' .. Sooooo it's playing yesterday's footie review .. can't get satellite as I don't own a Tele... [11:44] redtape|renegade: you can get a dish and sat card for your PC :) [11:44] redtape|renegade: isn't it on DVB-T as well? [11:45] (freeview) [11:45] dunno .. but redtape doesn't believe in the promise of television .. prefer radio, by far. [11:46] there are more radio stations than TV stations on free{sat,view} ;) [11:47] yep :) [11:50] I believe so .. but it's miniscule compared to radio on t'internet .. :: http://bit.ly/13CDst6 :: My Dad is getting the cheque for selling his TV firm on Monday due to on-line sales & PC World competition .. but TV has always been a 'product' for someone' else in my family. [11:55] I gave some DeNiro to :: http://open.commonly.cc/ :: be nice if they could reach their target .. they've been going 12 days so far .. [11:59] I going to give to wm8650 attempt on Linux another try , if I can get it for £15 (P&P incl.) :: http://r.ebay.com/qZavXs :: but it's a long shot using Arch|ARM .. [12:04] redtape|renegade: It's an ARM9 core - don't bother [12:06] redtape|renegade: Now, if you're a good guy mechanically then using that chassis for a beagleboard:black would be more useful [12:21] penguin42: It's a technical experiment that has been proved before ..(see link at end).. if it works then I'll get one hundred and fifty of the same type for £5 each, which will go to the 3rdworld/charity. [ http://bit.ly/1a3gM5s ] i.e. It's not for me. [12:40] redtape|renegade: I'm not sure it's worth it frankly; they're really really shit chips [12:48] penguin42: Yeah, yur prob.ly right .. just had a grand lying around with nothing to-do. Kinda glad I'm not top bidder now. [12:50] redtape|renegade: Yeh it's terrible when it's burning a hole in your bank account [12:51] * redtape|renegade re-looksie's at the #LSE to get solaptops instead. [12:58] OT | redtape likes the new Alan Partridge Film .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRivx-wEaiE .. Anyone seen it yet .& when's it gonna be on DVD ? [13:21] MartijnVdS: Cameraman down .. ::: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTA05RezBac&feature=youtu.be ::: [13:24] redtape|renegade: yes that was early in the race [13:35] MartijnVdS: I can't wait for a tweetpic of the black eye :D [13:51] I am trying to record some screen casts and have tried recordmydesktop with openshop video editor to put it together. But some sections of the output are stuck. [13:51] Like the first 1 min of the video is the same frame, then it starts working [13:51] anyone got better apps for this, or know what could be going on? [13:53] it seems to be the openshot video that is breaking things [13:54] the output from recordmydesktop seems fine [13:56] tried ptivi? [13:56] also kino and kdenlive [13:56] nope, will try now [13:56] it may just be the format, recordmydesktop spits out ovg or something. [13:56] might be good to make it avi or something normal [13:59] ptivi seems better already. [13:59] thanks penguin42 [13:59] no prob [14:01] man, so much smoother. openshot was pushing the CPU thought the roof and could not even show the preview properly. [14:02] Can't belive it made 45k on kickstarter [14:02] http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/421164014/openshot-video-editor-for-windows-mac-and-linux/posts [14:05] no one said kickstarter selected for sanity [14:14] dogmatic69: There seem to be a lot of video editors all of which have some down side; it would seem better to share some more [14:15] they should just join forces [14:16] yeh, although it's not too bad to have some competition between them - it helps push forward [14:16] sure, but its not exactly a huge market [14:16] and it's a hard problem [14:17] like IDE's or something [14:17] ye [14:17] Does anyone happen to know the name of the CD/DVD Creator application, so I can start it manually, please? [14:17] * penguin42 would use k3b [14:17] I renamed a directory and now it won't start when I try to send it to it [14:18] penguin42: yeah, I'm almost at that stage myself, Unity not letting me move the launcher etc. [14:19] mgdm: I think the other problem is that there seem to be two separate focuses 'simple' and 'pro' where the simple are for those of us who just want to edit a quick clip we took of something, and the pro's want to make a small film [14:19] dwatkins: You can use k3b in gnome as well [14:19] ah yes [14:19] aha thanks penguin42 [14:19] * dwatkins gives up on CD/DVD creator [14:31] OT | Just having a look at Audioboo to give proper audio messages on twitter ... Anyone tried it ? :: https://twitter.com/audioboo :: [14:36] anyone here have a suggestion for a good device for outdoor use, thats portables and around 400 [14:37] main requirements are gtk, so i can run apps like inkscape and geany [14:37] so no ubuntu touch unless x11 and gtk will be coming soon :) [14:38] dell xps 10 looks like good potential but i can not find much about compatibility [14:40] oly: I don't think you have much chance with ARM based Windows tablets [14:40] oly: You'd better get onto ebay.co.uk and take yur pick from these .. :: https://friendly.ubuntu.com/ :: but I always recommenmd system 76 [14:40] oly: Android tablets are more hackable because in the end they're running Linux already (and I think Windows on ARM are very locked down) [14:41] yeah tempted with android, but the only option is ubuntu touch ? [14:41] ie no gtk or X apps [14:41] oly: It depends.... [14:41] is it a tablet you are after ? [14:41] tablet or small laptop, [14:42] something portable, only for some hacking / graphics when i am about [14:42] i have a 17 inch laptop it ways a tone :p [14:42] oly: It's very variable by tablet /hardware - most of them you can persuade to run a chroot with Linux, getting X to work depends on the exact driver - I've got X just about tottering along on an ereader [14:42] oly: But also getting power saving to work as well as Android is very difficult [14:42] yeah, i know thats why i am asking about :) [14:43] oly: Ubuntu Touch might not be a bad bet with Mir, as I understand there is an X backend'd by Mir - would be an interesting thing to try [14:43] oly. I'd just save up for a haswell in Q3~13, unless it's time critical ? [14:44] yeah but i dont know how far of that is, no point getting it if i have to wait a year to run the apps i am after [14:44] oly: nod [14:44] oly: Maybe Asus transformer ? [14:45] oly: Or one of the x86 tablets [14:45] asus transformer looks good, but not sure its proper x86 apps ? [14:45] whats the haswell redtape|renegade ? [14:46] oly: It's not it's ARM [14:46] oly: So get an x86 tablet? [14:46] x86 tablet is an option but they all seem to be windows uefi, and not found one thats known to work :p [14:46] i was hoping someone may have such a device which they are using :) [14:47] UEFI in itself isn't such a problem - I think the x86 uefi's MS says you're supposed to be able to install your own stuff - not sure about the practice, or how well the touch works [14:48] oly: But if you want to run inkscape/gnome there is no reason to restrict to x86 - they should work fine on ARM [14:48] true, just reading about the transformer again [14:49] penguin42: Maybe it's good with other optional prog.s .. althou I find use of a Transformer with Ubuntu .. as of yet .. ::: http://bit.ly/16gp85u :: [14:50] oly. Can you not just cross-search the ubuntu friendly page with an auction site and install ubuntu via there ? [14:52] maybe but the ubuntu friendly site does not tell you about the machines quickly, weight size etc [14:53] i dont want another brick :) [14:53] got one already :-D [14:53] haha - what did you brick? [14:53] oh, you mean brick by weight? [14:55] yeah, got a dell 17 studio works beautifully but i can just pop it into a bag and carry it around all day [14:55] oly: The other question is how something like inkscape works with a touchscreen - touchscreens are a bit weird when you try themn on existing apps [14:56] well inkscape says it supports touch [14:57] i remember using inkscape and gimp on my n900 that worked, if very fiddly on a small screen :) [14:57] ok yeh [15:01] The brief seems quite constrictive to answer, IMHO. === emmy is now known as Guest88477 === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [16:29] \o/ \o/ \o/ [16:29] yay! [16:29] Until last year I didn't give two hoots about tennis, that has changed :-) [16:30] haha [16:31] I was staying with friends outside Manchester who are big tennis fans in 2005 when he had his surprising run after Henman got knocked out. [16:31] That's what got me interested in tennis at all. [16:33] Pendulum: Tennis must be good for you - all that swinging back and foward looking at one player and then the other [16:33] haha [16:34] that's not really how it's filmed, though. it's more of an up-and-down eye movement. :P [16:45] it's like Snooker, I never figure why with widescreen they don't just turn the camera around and have it going across [16:50] I suspect with tennis it's because a lot of the interesting/important lines are the ones down the sides [16:50] so it's easier to see the way it's filmed [16:51] also, probably in part "because that's the way they've always done it" [16:51] For tennis I think you're definitely right regarding being able to see angles. [16:53] OT | Soooo Tim wins at Tennis .. who'd a thunk it ! [16:53] Yes, that is what happened. [17:04] Just realised it's 77years since last UK champion and it is the 7/7 today .. #just-sayin' [17:11] Stockport will be upset, their Fred Perry way will be outdated now [17:20] * redtape|renegade tries to find a fitting conspiracy :: https://twitter.com/thetracyaustin/status/353925986842181632 :: #7thHeaven === emmy is now known as Guest15666 [17:53] Good afternoon peeps :) [17:54] evening bigcalm [18:02] After updating to 13.04 from 12.04 printing has gone south. Now I get some margin top/left I cant seem to clear. [18:02] anyone have ideas for that? [18:09] dogmatic69: Even on the test page? === tombrough is now known as tk421 === zleap is now known as DarthVader === DarthVader is now known as DarthVader2 === tk421 is now known as tombrough === DarthVader2 is now known as zleap [18:29] hrrmph. Anyone in central Scotland and use Freeview? (Trying to determine if there's a problem with Black Hill (Lanarkshire) transmitter) [18:30] StevenR: The last time I used tv was two years ago .. but good luck with your question. [18:30] StevenR: https://www.radioandtvhelp.co.uk/diagnostic/?id=IRDPIBK4IQ7HGHTA4D7HV584G6&uid=218553210 ? [18:32] penguin42: thanks, I've already been down that route. They say "no reported problems". TBH, I suspect local antenna issue, but I was hoping to find someone else how happened to recive from the same transmitter [18:32] *who happened [18:41] I don't even have an aerial; I'm in Edinburgh. [18:53] StevenR: I'm pretty sure I'm on Black hill and it's fine [18:54] moop [18:55] mgdm: thanks. Looking at other antennas, I might be on Craigkelly, but I don't know which antenna is mine [18:56] StevenR: some boxes will tell you the transmitter ID [18:56] mgdm: I'm not getting anything at all :) [18:56] or you could work it out from the frequencies of the multiplexes [18:56] (when it works, yes :) [18:57] StevenR: or one way to tell is if you get the Glasgow or Edinburgh version of the STV News at Six :) [18:57] yeah. Mythtv can probably tell me that, but it doesn't find a single channel [18:59] i wonder what they will do with new top gear ep, with the tennis still going on, hopefully thwy will ditch the tennis. [18:59] I'd hope they'd move Top Gear [18:59] it's not live [19:00] Facebook is asking me to rate my office (as I've tagged photos there) [19:00] i find top gear significantly more entertaining, and also, when not move the tennix to bbc 1 ? [19:00] why not* [19:01] and delay country file? [19:01] or stick the tennis onto bbc3 or 4? [19:01] BBC1 is their 'main'c hannel [19:02] by that same argument, country file is also pre-recorded. so they can shift that. [19:03] They have contingencies for these things [19:03] not sure what they are though [19:03] like sticking stuff onto red buttons, and online. [19:04] which it seems they have. === emmy is now known as Guest55044 [19:28] Can anybody tell me how I would boot a .IMG (pfSense-2.0.3-RELEASE-1g-i386-nanobsd-20130412-1022.img) how can I boot this or run this on my machine? [19:28] I have blank DVD-R's. [19:28] I want to do this BSD Router :) [19:29] HoT|2fC^: what does 'file' say? [19:29] HoT|2fC^: file blah.img [19:29] MartijnVdS ^^ Above mate :) [19:30] I wan't to run pfSense 2.0.3 Relaese. [19:30] HoT|2fC^: yes.. run the command "file pfSense-2.0.3-RELEASE-1g-i386-nanobsd-20130412-1022.img" please :) [19:30] and paste the output [19:30] Ok brb jumping on my Ubuntu machine :) [19:31] thanks MartijnVdS [19:31] HoT|2fC^: that's not good for most hardware :P [19:31] HoT|2fC^: "file" will just tell you what kind of file it is [19:31] what isnt ? [19:31] jumping on a computer is bad for the computer :P [19:31] ah cool I want to run it :) maybe test? [19:31] MartijnVdS hahah yeah it is idd [19:31] HoT|2fC^: no, if "file" says it's an iso-9660 or UDF image, you can burn it to CD or DVD by opening "brasero" and loading the image and burning it [19:32] ah ok MartijnVdS I will go and double check now :) thanks.. brb. [19:32] if it's a "partition table" or "file system" of some kind, you need to "dd" it to an USB stick, or a partition on $same [19:32] :o [19:33] (partition table to the device, so /dev/sdz for example; file system to the partition, so /dev/sdz1 for instance) [19:33] ah ok ok :) [19:33] but it's probably an ISO image [19:33] Well I tried to do it here on my Windows box but its not happending. [19:34] using Deamontools etc.. and other type of programmes [19:34] weird, burning ISOs to disc is built into Windows Vista and up [19:34] VMware [19:34] just right-click and burn [19:34] it's a vmware image? [19:34] nono I want to try it :) [19:34] oh :) [19:35] never mind I have that Oracle VM VirtualBox [19:35] :) [19:38] woo, radius accounting is working now \o/ [19:47] ebenink! [19:49] hi popey [19:50] yay, my dad has brought me back a bottle of talisker from his trip, :) [19:50] \o/ [19:51] yay [19:51] will be yummy. [19:51] hip flask refill, me thinks. [19:52] I got a hip flask and a bottle of Talisker for my birthday [19:52] I've not *yet* put the two together [19:52] brobostigon: have you ordered Broeders or Dark Roast yet? :) [19:54] MartijnVdS: it will have to wait roughly a week, for more money. [19:55] delivary cost is my worry. [19:55] brobostigon: yeah, that's a bit steep.. international shipping :( [19:56] maybe they could get a discount if they shipped a shipping container at once.. :) [19:56] MartijnVdS: certainly, that my worry. and my main reason why i might not. [20:01] * MartijnVdS should write up the steps to set up freeradius + WPA-enterprise [20:02] <^2fC> :o [20:02] <^2fC> Sounds interesting MartijnVdS :D [20:02] <^2fC> I just come on my Linux box took me a while lol, had something to eat and drink first :D [20:53] L4D2 TIME! [20:54] nah, Zzz o'clock [20:55] nn