[01:39] <James_Epp> I'm installing kubuntu in a VM for setting up, installing programs and such. If I all of a sudden switch it from that VM (which is installed on a desktop) to a netbook, will everything transfer over okay?
[01:40] <James_Epp> Like, will battery indicators and such be an issue or not?
[01:53] <unheeding> so i have an issue - i can see lightdm, but when i log in to kde it tuns my monitor off
[01:56] <unheeding> i can log in to icewm just fine
[01:56] <genii> unheeding: Perhaps it's using a second video output which you can't see as the default
[01:57] <unheeding> no there's only one output
[01:58] <unheeding> i can log in to icewm and get into systemsettings, but i can't change anything about the monitor
[01:58] <unheeding> i'm going to try upgrading to 4.10.5 and see if that does anything
[02:01] <unheeding> nope
[02:01] <unheeding> well, screw this
[02:04] <genii> unheeding: When the monitor shuts off are you still able to gain a console with ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[04:07] <Trel> I have Kubuntu on a laptop with an Intel 4 integrated Graphics GPU (core 2 duo). Compositing works fine, but the splash screen in KDE flickers really bad. KDM is fine, and the desktop is fine, but the splash screen flickers. Anyone have any ideas what I can do there?
[06:16] <shrinivasan> hello all
[06:16] <shrinivasan> .nick shrini
[06:16] <shrinivasan> what is kbuildsycoca4?
[06:16] <shrinivasan> why is talking too much time to run?
[06:16] <shrinivasan> everytime  i kill that
[06:16] <shrinivasan> to see the desktop
[06:19] <Tm_T> shrinivasan: kbuildsycoca builds metadatabase(s) that KDE uses internally, you need it to do its work
[06:19] <Tm_T> then, it should run through in a minute
[06:19] <shrinivasan> Tm_T: it is taking hours
[06:19] <shrinivasan> but still working
[06:20] <Tm_T> shrinivasan: have you tried running it manually from command line?
[06:20] <shrinivasan> ok
[06:20] <Tm_T> "kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental" to ensure old cruft isn't annoying it
[06:20] <shrinivasan> when I run manually, it is talking all the memory and the system gets into a non usable state
[06:22] <genii> Perhaps you have marginal system specifications for running Kubuntu
[06:22] <Tm_T> shrinivasan: even with --noincremental switch?
[06:22] <shrinivasan> I did not tried with that option
[06:22] <Tm_T> shrinivasan: please do
[06:22] <shrinivasan> genii: I have 4GB ram
[06:22] <shrinivasan> yes
[06:22] <shrinivasan> will do no
[06:23] <shrinivasan> it is running
[06:23] <shrinivasan> will update the progress here as it goes
[06:23] <shrinivasan> the top says that
[06:24] <shrinivasan> the virt ram usage is increasing from 300 to 550 now
[06:24] <shrinivasan> 613
[06:24] <shrinivasan> 700
[06:24] <shrinivasan> it is keep on increasing
[06:24] <shrinivasan> 825 mb now
[06:26] <shrinivasan> 1343 MB now
[06:26] <shrinivasan> 1600 MB now
[06:28] <shrinivasan> 2380 MB
[06:28] <shrinivasan> I fear my system will hand soon
[06:29] <Tm_T> shrinivasan: virt you can ignore
[06:29] <shrinivasan> Tm_T: oh
[06:29] <shrinivasan>  2669 shriniva  20   0 2830m 2.6g 4336 R  98.8 71.3   6:23.15 kbuildsycoca4
[06:29] <shrinivasan> RES = 2.6 GB
[06:29] <Tm_T> that's a lot
[06:30] <shrinivasan> almost vire and res are same
[06:30] <shrinivasan> my firefox gor hang
[06:31] <shrinivasan> the alt tab response is very slow
[06:31] <shrinivasan> let me keep it running for some time
[06:31] <shrinivasan> will have some tea and check again
[06:31] <shrinivasan> :-)
[06:32] <Tm_T> shrinivasan: does it progress in command line? does it tell what it is doing?
[06:33] <shrinivasan> kbuildsycoca4 running...
[06:33] <shrinivasan> kbuildsycoca4(2669) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry Keywords in "plasma-applet-microblog-qml.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon).
[06:33] <shrinivasan> kbuildsycoca4(2669) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry Keywords in "kcm_kmm_icalendarexport.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon).
[06:33] <shrinivasan> kbuildsycoca4(2669) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry Keywords in "kcm_kmm_printcheck.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon).
[06:33] <FloodBotK1> shrinivasan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:34] <shrinivasan> no much error on konsole
[06:35] <shrinivasan> what is that tool doing?
[07:10] <shrini> hello all
[07:10] <shrini> my system crashed of kbuildsycoca4 operation
[07:10] <shrini> and I rebooted
[07:10] <shrini> :-(
[08:24] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:36] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[14:14] <Trel> I'm having an issue with the kde splash screen
[14:15] <Trel> it flickers badly when i login.  I have intel series 4 integrated graphics.
[14:42] <BluesKaj> Trel, check kmenu>system>additional drivers for more up to date driver availability
[15:27] <rstob911> I was just wondering if anyone else seems to be having troubles with Firefox freezing up
[15:46] <SonikkuAmerica> Big problem: I've lost all sound in Kubuntu 13.04. (lspci gives 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03))
[15:54] <reservado_> hi
[15:54] <reservado_> i just installed kubuntu 13.04, but when i try to login, the start up process just get freezed
[16:06] <SonikkuAmerica> [ Att 2 ] Big problem: I've lost all sound in Kubuntu 13.04. (lspci gives 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03))
[16:08] <reservado_> hi
[16:09] <SonikkuAmerica> When you try to login? You can't log in?
[16:10] <reservado_> i can login, but when kubuntu tries to start plasma, freezes
[16:10] <SonikkuAmerica> reservado_: What are your machine specs?
[16:12] <genii> SonikkuAmerica: I'm having a similar sound issue atm :-/
[16:13] <OerHeks> Me had it too, 2 days ago, could not find a solution
[16:13] <SonikkuAmerica> genii: :\ indeed. Can't even bring out my HD Audio with pavucontrol either (like I used to be able to)
[16:13] <SonikkuAmerica> OerHeks: ^^
[16:13] <reservado_> intel pentium dual cor -1GB ram - Nvidia GC
[16:14] <SonikkuAmerica> reservado_: Are you using the proprietary drivers?
[16:14] <reservado_> nope
[16:14] <SonikkuAmerica> genii, OerHeks: I wonder...
[16:14] <genii> Whats weird is my internal audio doesn't work but if I plug external speakers it works. The HDMI sound doesn't work though.
[16:14]  * SonikkuAmerica heads for the sound room
[16:14] <reservado_> In fact prior version of kubuntu works fine
[16:14] <reservado_> but i choose to make a fresh install
[16:14] <OerHeks> i was refering to reservado_, not the sound issue
[16:15] <reservado_> i removed plasma-desktop
[16:15] <SonikkuAmerica> OerHeks: Oh lol
[16:15] <reservado_> and i can enter kade
[16:15] <reservado_> and i can enter kde
[16:15] <reservado_> but when reinstall plasma desktop computer freezes when trying to load the desktop
[16:16] <SonikkuAmerica> genii: Nope.
[16:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Tried a USB headset.
[16:17] <genii> reservado_: Was it working previously?
[16:20] <SonikkuAmerica> genii: Figured it, it was speech-dispatcher.
[16:26] <genii> reservado_: I would suggest from login screen: ctrl-alt-f1   ...login to text console there. Then: mv .kde .oldkde         then: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop      ... then: sudo service lightdm restart    ( or if you still use kdm use instead: sudo service kdm restart ) ..if you don't see login may need to alt-f7 back to it
[16:34] <reservado_> will try
[16:34] <Trel_mobile> Blueskaj I'll try that tonight when I get home.
[16:35] <Trel_mobile> Are thete usually Intel drivers there?
[16:35] <Trel_mobile> I thought Intel had open sourced theirs.
[16:35] <BluesKaj> Trel_mobile, , not sure , depends on your hardware
[16:36] <Trel_mobile> Intel series 4 integrated graphics. (core 2 duo processor)
[16:37] <Trel_mobile> Either way I'll try that tonight when I get home.
[16:40] <BluesKaj> !proprietary
[16:40] <BluesKaj> !info proprietary
[16:41] <BluesKaj> hmm
[16:41] <SonikkuAmerica> !nonfree
[16:42] <SonikkuAmerica> BluesKaj: Oh I know what you're looking for
[16:42] <SonikkuAmerica> !nv
[16:43] <Trel_mobile> Was that macro for me?
[16:44] <genii> !binary
[16:45] <genii> Hm.
[16:45] <BluesKaj> Trel_mobile, yes check SonikkuAmerica's posted  url
[16:52] <Trel_mobile> Mine is Intel, not ati/nvidia/matrox though I'll check that link
[16:55] <Trel_mobile> Yeah, that doesn't address intel. I'm also not sure my issue is from that anyway. Compositing works fine, it's ONLY on the kde splash screen (any of them, including default) where it flickers.
[16:58] <genii> Trel_mobile: What is the result for lspci -nn      ( just the line for the video )
[16:58] <BluesKaj> Trel_mobile,are you using lightdm or kdm ?
[17:01] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh, another thing, I think it's a known bug, but... Jovie is saying that 12 == 0
[17:01] <SonikkuAmerica> when it says the time
[17:02] <Trel_mobile> Blueskaj I'm using kdm, but it's the splash screen in kde, not the login manager. (aka it happens with lightdm too)
[17:03] <BluesKaj> ok
[17:06] <Trel_mobile> So it's definitely something unrelated (ostensibly) to the login manager.
[17:08] <BluesKaj> Trel_mobile, perhaps an Xorg config file would help , if you haven't already created one , get the driver loaded ar login
[17:09] <Trel_mobile> Is there a tutorial for how to do that? Xorg config files is where my knowledge drops to 0 if I don't have instructions.
[17:10] <Trel_mobile> Because come to think of it, it does remind me of the flickering I would get on some of my nvidia boxes when the driver loaded prior to the login manager.
[17:10] <Trel_mobile> So that could be something.
[17:12] <genii> !xorgconf
[17:13] <Trel_mobile> What about what he was saying about loading the driver at login? (and again, intel, not ati or nvidia)
[17:14] <BluesKaj> my knowledge about startup is very limited ... I need to do more reading
[17:15] <Trel_mobile> Limited puts you ahead of my zero :p
[18:17] <uberblah> Hello, I'm trying to figure out what will actually happen if I install kde-full on Ubuntu. Will it create a new option for the session type, the way that gnome does when you install gnome-panel, or will it completely replace all of my gnome stuff?
[19:00] <uberblah> Hello, I'm trying to figure out what will actually happen if I install kde-full on Ubuntu. Will it create a new option for the session type, the way that gnome does when you install gnome-panel, or will it completely replace all of my gnome stuff?
[19:06] <BluesKaj> uberblah, yes , session type option will be available in the drop down menu at the login page . Recommend you install kubuntu-desktop if it's not included in kde-full
[19:06] <uberblah> Thanks, BluesKaj!
[20:16] <simpleuser> Hello everyone : in this picture ( http://i.imgur.com/UdbO7.png ) do you know if details are a console output ?
[20:25] <yofel> simpleuser: that shows just the list of packages and the reason for their removal from what I see, that's no console output
[20:25] <simpleuser> ok :(
[23:49] <Trel> BluesKaj: I don't have the "additional drivers" section in my menu.  Any idea why that could be?