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| siretart | mdeslaur: FYI: I've released libav 0.8.8 and libav 9.8 yesterday night | 05:17 |
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| glitchd_ | hello all | 05:24 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:09 |
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| mwhudson | turning a pile of .deb files into something i can point apt-get at means apt-ftparchive, right? | 07:54 |
| rbasak | mwhudson: right | 07:56 |
| dholbach | hey mvo, do you think you could take a look at lp:~evfool/update-manager/lp1079136? | 08:00 |
| dholbach | @pilot in | 08:00 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 13.04 released | Archive: open | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of lucid -> raring | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: dholbach | ||
| mwhudson | rbasak: i even made it work! | 08:08 |
| mwhudson | unfortunately the packages i built are for raring and i'm trying to install them on quantal... | 08:08 |
| rbasak | mwhudson: sbuild is your friend :) | 08:09 |
| dholbach | can somebody please reject https://code.launchpad.net/~malizor/ubuntu/saucy/ubuntu-wallpapers/fix-for-1177260/+merge/171911? | 08:11 |
| mvo | dholbach: sure! | 08:12 |
| dholbach | thanks mvo | 08:12 |
| dholbach | mvo, lp:~dylanmccall/update-manager/dialogs-refactor too please :) | 08:12 |
| seb128 | dholbach, mvo: good morning my german friends, how are you? | 08:13 |
| dholbach | doing well - how about you? | 08:13 |
| seb128 | I'm good thanks, summer finally arrived! | 08:13 |
| mvo | hey seb128! I'm good, how are you? | 08:13 |
| seb128 | mvo, I'm good thanks ;-) | 08:13 |
| seb128 | mvo, do you have months of holidays for summer break like student? ;-) | 08:13 |
| seb128 | mvo, oh, the internet says it's not summer break in germany yet ... that just started in France | 08:15 |
| Laney | haha, for staff at universities that is when the real work happens | 08:16 |
| seb128 | I see :p | 08:17 |
| seb128 | dholbach, that gconf sync request is buggy, you can invalid it | 08:17 |
| dholbach | seb128, it could be changed to be a merge(?) | 08:18 |
| seb128 | yes | 08:18 |
| dholbach | not sure if obounaim is up for that though | 08:18 |
| seb128 | though I wouldn't trust somebody who overlooked most of the work to do this merge correctly... | 08:18 |
| seb128 | I will review it if he does it | 08:18 |
| seb128 | let's see ;-) | 08:18 |
| dholbach | done | 08:19 |
| mvo | seb128: yeah, no holidays for me :( | 08:19 |
| seb128 | mvo, :-( | 08:19 |
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| devinceble | Does qtdeclarative5-hud1.0 library present on 13.04 or 13.10 only? | 08:32 |
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| Noskcaj | what do i do for a needs packaging bug that already has a .deb file automatically made | 09:19 |
| smb | Are the problems with the time&date and privacy (at least) settings dialogues in S already known? Those seem to be unusable right now. | 09:38 |
| marga | ev, I'm having issues with whoopsie in precise, which is getting re-installed even though I had previously removed it, likely due to a new ubuntu-desktop release. The issue is that both installing and removing the package crash my X session. I've narrowed it down to the user adding/deleting, and I suspect this is due to the /var/crash handling. | 09:38 |
| marga | ev, I checked the bugs, expecting this to be reported, but it's not, so I'm unsure if it's something specific to my setup, or so recent that nobody else has seen it/identified it yet. | 09:38 |
| marga | Just adding the user with the command line in the postinst script crashes my session... | 09:39 |
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| ev | marga: that sounds like something is demonstrably broken in your setup. Calling adduser shouldn't bring down your X session. | 09:40 |
| ev | And if it does, the bug definitely isn't in whoopsie. | 09:41 |
| yofel | hi, is there someone that knows why gdk_x_error() is fatal? | 09:41 |
| yofel | Context: bug 1195007 is a nasty SRU regression in raring for KDE applications running under Unity/Gnome caused by the fix for bug 1180067 | 09:41 |
| yofel | I'm kinda lost on what the proper way to resolve this would be. | 09:41 |
| ubottu | bug 1195007 in kile (Ubuntu) "kile crashes when click on "file new + save"" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1195007 | 09:41 |
| ubottu | bug 1180067 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Raring) "No icons on buttons" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1180067 | 09:41 |
| marga | ev, you are right. I just tried it and adding or removing any users kills my X. So it's not whoopsie. Sorry for the false ping. | 09:45 |
| ev | no worries | 09:45 |
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| dholbach | @pilot out | 10:14 |
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| * ogra_ hugs dholbach | 10:18 | |
| * dholbach hugs ogra_ back :) | 10:18 | |
| * smb is grumpy finding Saucy's workspace moving keybindings gone random this morning | 10:20 | |
| cjwatson | yay, glatzor is some kind of superstar. (example patch for packagekit click backend; will need work but it's a lot easier to iterate on a patch) | 10:20 |
| dholbach | that's awesome :) | 10:22 |
| cjwatson | and reminds me that I need to ask for a new mime type | 10:22 |
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| mdeslaur | siretart: great, thanks! | 11:39 |
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| hallyn_ | SpamapS: could you please accept https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=qemu-kvm ? | 12:44 |
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| xnox | cjwatson: apachelogger reports that SRU bug 1180067 has caused a regression in raring, see last comment on that bug report. | 13:03 |
| ubottu | bug 1180067 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Raring) "No icons on buttons" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1180067 | 13:03 |
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| Riddell | !regression-alert | 13:12 |
| cjwatson | xnox: OK, not sure I can do a whole lot just at the moment, needs somebody who knows more about it to assess it | 13:12 |
| ubottu | cjwatson, jdong, pitti, skaet, ScottK, kees, Daviey, pgraner: reporting regression in a stable release update; investigate severity, start an incident report, perhaps have the package blacklisted from the archive | 13:12 |
| Riddell | mitya about? | 13:12 |
| Riddell | xnox: do you know when he's normally on? | 13:13 |
| ScottK | Riddell: he's on vacation this week, IIRC. | 13:13 |
| Riddell | ah | 13:13 |
| Riddell | I think I'll just upload it with the patch reverted and let mitya fix it when he's back | 13:18 |
| Riddell | fix isn't super important but regression is | 13:18 |
| xnox | Riddell: it might be a one-liner fix: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/attachments/20120618/582fd1dd/attachment-0001.obj | 13:26 |
| xnox | this should cause gtk/gdk to ignore all X errors. | 13:26 |
| xnox | Riddell: but then again, we need to fix it in saucy as well. | 13:28 |
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| ScottK | xnox: I think the SRU regression is more important for the moment. | 13:30 |
| xnox | Riddell: apachelogger: ScottK: Looking at other uses of gtk_init in qt4, shows that Xerror handler is stored before calling gtk_init, and reset back after. Thus the patch to fix the regression is something like this: | 13:42 |
| xnox | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5855413/ | 13:42 |
| xnox | not tested yet, building. | 13:43 |
| apachelogger | xnox: makes sense | 13:45 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I uploaded qt without the patch to revert bug 1180067 , you could let it through now if you have a moment and we could delete it if xnox gets his patch to work | 13:52 |
| ubottu | bug 1180067 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Raring) "No icons on buttons" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1180067 | 13:52 |
| seb128 | Riddell, ScottK, xnox: if any of you feels like doing some qt sponsoring, Mirv was looking for someone to sponsor the saucy qtdeclarative waiting in the sponsoring queue | 13:53 |
| Riddell | seb128: ok can look | 13:54 |
| seb128 | Riddell, thanks | 13:54 |
| xnox | Riddell: ScottK: i think raring-updates revert should be published, and my fix should be tested/bake in saucy and can go through as a normal SRU for raring. | 13:54 |
| ScottK | Sounds reasonable. | 13:54 |
| ScottK | I just accepted the revert. | 13:55 |
| xnox | I'm using bug #1195007 as the regression report of bug #1180067 | 13:56 |
| ubottu | bug 1195007 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "kile crashes when click on "file new + save"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1195007 | 13:56 |
| ubottu | bug 1180067 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Raring) "No icons on buttons" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1180067 | 13:56 |
| ScottK | OK. | 13:57 |
| xnox | ev: bdmurray: did / would have errors noticed above regression ^ sru released on 1st of july of qt4-x11, causing rdepends to crash a lot. | 13:59 |
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| bdmurray | xnox: I'll have a look | 14:01 |
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| SpamapS | hallyn_: done | 15:04 |
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| hallyn_ | SpamapS: lol! i had actually *just* decided to re-upload with another fix in it. But cool, will wait for this one to clear - thanks! | 15:06 |
| SpamapS | hallyn_: You LOSE. You get NOTHING. GOOD DAY SIR. | 15:09 |
| hallyn_ | SpamapS: ? | 15:11 |
| SpamapS | hallyn_: not a wonka fan eh? | 15:11 |
| hallyn_ | sorry, haven't seen it. | 15:12 |
| hallyn_ | might have to one of these days. | 15:12 |
| infinity | rbasak: Hrm. Someone's going to want to backport this golang 1.1 to older releases, aren't they? :/ | 15:25 |
| infinity | rbasak: Which means I either need to backport my dpkg patch, or make golang *also* add the arch tags. Bother. | 15:26 |
| SpamapS | hallyn_: oops, I forgot to actually hit "accept" on qemu-kvm .. so it is just now going through ;) | 15:30 |
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| plars | cjwatson: you mentioned to me a while back that you had a patch to apt to give better debugging of the "something wicked happened" errors, that hasn't made it into saucy yet? | 15:33 |
| cjwatson | plars: It's in Debian unstable, I think pending a merge | 15:37 |
| cjwatson | Don't know what mvo's plans are there | 15:38 |
| ricotz | infinity, hi :) | 15:42 |
| ricotz | infinity, it is worth you simply retry https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-toolchain-3.3/1:3.3-3 or would you expect it to fail again? | 15:42 |
| infinity | ricotz: It'll fail again. | 15:43 |
| Sarvatt | ^ builds fine on raring, gcc-4.8 fun? | 15:43 |
| ricotz | it builds on raring without gold though | 15:44 |
| infinity | So, stop using gold. We don't use it for 3.2 | 15:44 |
| Sarvatt | ah right, just noticed that | 15:44 |
| ricotz | infinity, debian introduced it for speed matters | 15:45 |
| infinity | ricotz: Sure, and we unintroduced it. I just haven't gotten to 3.3 yet. | 15:45 |
| infinity | ricotz: Is there some urgency in making 3.3 happy? | 15:46 |
| ricotz | infinity, alright | 15:46 |
| ricotz | we want to use it in xedger's mesa | 15:46 |
| Sarvatt | just mesa git snapshots in a ppa but we can just shove an updated llvm-3.3 in that | 15:46 |
| infinity | Ugh. | 15:46 |
| infinity | Does mesa require 3.3? :/ | 15:46 |
| Sarvatt | yep! | 15:46 |
| infinity | How lovely. | 15:47 |
| Sarvatt | hell, it'll probably require 3.4 by release in august and we'll have to disable features or add git crap to llvm again like what happened with 3.2.. | 15:47 |
| ricotz | Sarvatt, llvm-3.4 is in saucy too ;) | 15:47 |
| infinity | Oh, hrm. That PPC failure is curious, given that it worked on Debian. | 15:48 |
| infinity | Where did my atomics go in gcc-4.8 on PPC? | 15:48 |
| infinity | doko: ^ | 15:48 |
| smartboyhw | When does patch pilots go on duty? (Just asking) | 15:48 |
| smartboyhw | s/does/do | 15:48 |
| infinity | smartboyhw: When they feel like it. | 15:48 |
| smartboyhw | infinity, :O | 15:49 |
| infinity | smartboyhw: We're scheduled by day, ish, but each pilot only puts in a 4h shift (again, ish), and not at a specific time. | 15:49 |
| doko | infinity, ? | 15:49 |
| infinity | doko: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/143949118/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-powerpc.llvm-toolchain-3.3_1%3A3.3-3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 15:50 |
| infinity | doko: That doesn't happen in Debian. | 15:50 |
| infinity | doko: Did g++-4.8 do something vile to PPC atomics? | 15:50 |
| doko | not that I do know. the atomics lib shouldn't be needed on ppc | 15:52 |
| bdmurray | barry: did you see the regression autocomment in bug 1058884? It seems unrelated to me. | 15:55 |
| ubottu | bug 1058884 in python3.3 (Ubuntu Raring) "Race condition in py_compile corrupts pyc files" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1058884 | 15:55 |
| barry | bdmurray: looking | 15:55 |
| barry | bdmurray: it could be related | 16:00 |
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| ricotz | infinity, btw, llvm-3.3 is missing the symlinks added in llvm-toolchain-3.2 (1:3.2repack-7) too :\ | 16:16 |
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| xnox | infinity: building android with modern gcc & glibc results in: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5855986/ | 17:29 |
| sarnold | xnox: in my x86_64-linux-gnu/sys/ucontext.h the REG_EBP is protected by #ifdef __USE_GNU | 17:32 |
| xnox | sarnold: yeah, defined, just before including ucontext.h. | 17:36 |
| sarnold | xnox: ah :/ good luck :) | 17:36 |
| xnox | sarnold: infinity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5856022/ | 17:41 |
| xnox | what's wrong? =))) | 17:41 |
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| tvoss | slangasek, ping | 19:43 |
| mdz | cjwatson, kees, pitti, soren, stgraber: TB in 2 minutes? | 19:58 |
| cjwatson | yep | 19:58 |
| stgraber | yep | 19:58 |
| soren | mdz: Absolutely. | 19:58 |
| cjwatson | have small child in lap, will see what I can manage | 19:58 |
| cjwatson | but he seems to have just gone to sleep ... | 19:58 |
| mdz | looks like we'll manage a quorum | 19:59 |
| cjwatson | no sign of Rick to talk about the series alias thing though | 20:00 |
| xnox | sarnold: "Adding the #define before stdio.h does not help, as stdio.h includes features.h which undef __USE_GNU" stckoverflow win =) will apply the fix tomorrow, enough of this for today. So the answer is #include <stdio.h> \n #define __USE_GNU | 20:04 |
| cjwatson | huh? | 20:04 |
| cjwatson | no | 20:04 |
| cjwatson | #define _GNU_SOURCE | 20:04 |
| cjwatson | you're not meant to define __USE_GNU directly - define _GNU_SOURCE instead and you should be fine | 20:05 |
| cjwatson | and do so at the very top of the file, before any other preprocessor tokens | 20:05 |
| cjwatson | stackoverflow is wrong in this case :) | 20:05 |
| xnox | cjwatson: well that doesn't work. | 20:05 |
| cjwatson | I've used _GNU_SOURCE a lot, it certainly works in general. | 20:06 |
| xnox | never mind, it does with "-m32" | 20:06 |
| xnox | cjwatson: now I wonder, why android went for __USE_GNU instead of _GNU_SOURCE. | 20:06 |
| sarnold | xnox: oh! excellent :) | 20:11 |
| xnox | sarnold: but, moving the guards to the beginning of the file and #defining _GNU_SOURCE as per cjwatson works better. | 20:12 |
| xnox | Quote of the day: "Don't ever define __USE_GNU directly" From: Jakub Jelinek | 20:13 |
| sarnold | ooh | 20:14 |
| sarnold | that sounds like a good one to remember. :) | 20:14 |
| xnox | http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/fortran/2005-10/msg00365.html | 20:14 |
| ubottu | gcc.gnu.org bug 2005 in c++ "loop in gcc when function has const additional" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 20:14 |
| manish | ev: ping. please check your mail | 20:23 |
| slangasek | tvoss: pong | 20:26 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: what's the best data source nowadays for information about whether users (as a whole) are using binary vs. free drivers? | 20:44 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: I'm not sure off the top of my head | 20:54 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: well, what are our options? The information is in bug reports, right, but I guess that's heavy to query in aggregate... and there's also Ubuntu Friendly which would have something | 20:56 |
| olli | bdmurray, I assume (would have to do an install myself to verify) that we don't collect HW information during install? | 20:57 |
| bdmurray | olli: right we do not | 21:03 |
| olli | bdmurray, oki | 21:04 |
| olli | do you know whether we can create some insight when looking at the archive & mirrors? might be too cluttered as well I suppose | 21:04 |
| bdmurray | olli: what is the question you are trying to answer? | 21:05 |
| olli | bdmurray, :) | 21:05 |
| cjwatson | you could ask IS for relative stats of some selected package; I don't know how helpful they'll be since installed doesn't say much about whether it's in use | 21:05 |
| cjwatson | *packages | 21:06 |
| cjwatson | and indeed we often end up installing more hardware support than is used on a given machine | 21:06 |
| cjwatson | while it's a sort of odd application, this could be minable from errors.u.c, which would be easier to query in aggregate than bug reports | 21:07 |
| cjwatson | sounds like an interesting use case for ev's "let developers write hadoop jobs" thing | 21:07 |
| cjwatson | of course that's skewed, it only tells you what *broken machines* use | 21:08 |
| slangasek | in the case of the binary drivers, they definitely don't get installed unless selected for use | 21:08 |
| bdmurray | I'm not certain that errors has the right apport data for that either | 21:08 |
| cjwatson | right - but you can switch back to something else later and I don't think they get uninstalled | 21:08 |
| slangasek | they do | 21:08 |
| cjwatson | oh, all of them? I thought that was just the gl driver | 21:08 |
| slangasek | well, we're only talking in the context of X drivers, sorry if that wasn't clear | 21:09 |
| cjwatson | but ok, if so then IS *might* be able to get something off mirrors | 21:09 |
| slangasek | X/gl/video | 21:09 |
| bdmurray | oh, I guess errors has NonfreeKernelModules which may help | 21:10 |
| * slangasek nods | 21:11 | |
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| olli | sorry, didn't see the last comment and http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/07/08/%23ubuntu-devel.txt isn't up to date | 21:16 |
| olli | major brownout here | 21:17 |
| slangasek | olli: 14:10 < bdmurray> oh, I guess errors has NonfreeKernelModules which may help | 21:17 |
| olli | ah | 21:18 |
| olli | cool | 21:18 |
| bdmurray | well, looking further something is awry | 21:18 |
| bdmurray | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/apport/saucy/view/head:/apport/report.py#L312 | 21:18 |
| bdmurray | I don't see it in precise either... | 21:18 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: the conspicuous absence of the bit that sets the field? | 21:18 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: right | 21:19 |
| olli | :) | 21:19 |
| slangasek | I'm sure I've seen that recently in bug reports, though | 21:19 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: data/general-hooks/generic.py | 21:19 |
| slangasek | add_info() ? | 21:19 |
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| bdmurray | ah, great | 21:20 |
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| Selling_FDhypno_ | superaffordable erotic hypnosis anyone? :) | 21:26 |
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