| bjsnider | update-manager tells you when you run it that you need a dist upgrade | 01:49 |
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| roasted | hello | 02:27 |
| roasted | jbicha: not to pester, but I noticed in 13.10 alpha, the software center worsk fine. | 02:28 |
| roasted | I threw 13.10 on my other partition to see if my lockup issue is resolved (I think it's a kernel 3.8 issue) and I noticed USC works fine | 02:28 |
| roasted | also, I thought 13.10 would come with the pressure sensitive message tray? | 02:59 |
| roasted | oh, that was a feature coming with xorg 1.14... 13.10 alpha is still on 1.13 | 03:25 |
| roasted | will 13.10 be getting 1.14? | 03:25 |
| jbicha | maybe xorg 1.14 will be in saucy tomorrow | 03:31 |
| roasted | no kidding? | 03:32 |
| jbicha | I believe the Software Center crash is because of WebKit so you wouldn't be experiencing it on Saucy yet (assuming you aren't using the GNOME3 PPAs there) | 03:58 |
| roasted | yeah, no PPAs. | 03:58 |
| jbicha | thanks for prompting me to check my theory | 03:58 |
| roasted | Just regular 13.10 install. | 03:58 |
| sawrubh | I have downloaded the iso file from the cd images site, now I want to install it from inside Windows 7 (similar to what we used to do with wubi) | 05:27 |
| sawrubh | how can I do so ? | 05:27 |
| sawrubh | I've tried to mount the iso and then copying the wubi.exe inside to outside where the iso file is stored and following the steps I used to do earlier, but it starts downloading the torrent for the iso, instead of using the iso stored locally | 05:30 |
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| anonee | hello room | 17:56 |
| anonee | how can I exclude wine in emerald? | 17:56 |
| roasted | is GNOME online accounts broken or do I just have bad luck? I added exchange and own cloud yet nothing happened. not seeing any files contacts email etc | 19:09 |
| roasted | hmm my Fedora VM works with own cloud. looks like it just adds a web dav entry in Nautilus to mount easily. no such behavior in Ubuntu gnome though... is this expected? | 19:37 |
| jbicha | roasted: I believe Ubuntu cripples gnome-user-share's webdav support since it requires Apache and we have no intention of running Apache in the default Ubuntu install | 19:42 |
| roasted | so it will indefinitely be expected to have broken integration in Ubuntu GNOME? | 19:42 |
| jbicha | and the GNOME maintainer has no intention of splitting that feature out | 19:42 |
| jbicha | it's probably fixable but it may be difficult | 19:44 |
| roasted | is that to say ifi install Apache it might magically work again? | 19:44 |
| bjsnider | does fedora require apache by default? | 19:45 |
| jbicha | I thought it was more complicated than that | 19:45 |
| jbicha | bjsnider: yes, I think nearly all GNOME distros do because of gnome-user-share | 19:45 |
| bjsnider | guhh | 19:45 |
| jbicha | Debian does | 19:45 |
| jbicha | even more, gnome-control-center's sharing panel is designed around the Red Hat style of services...where distros ship things by default like openssh-server (but disabled by default) | 19:46 |
| roasted | I sure hope this won't be a broken thing indefinitely. that's one of the nice features of GNOME is the integration. | 19:47 |
| bjsnider | i don't know that i agree with that whole idea. a distro shouldn't depend on httpd | 19:47 |
| jbicha | part of Ubuntu GNOME's mission as I see it is to try to work on integration issues like these | 19:48 |
| bjsnider | i think this is more of a gnome issue | 19:49 |
| jbicha | we've fixed a lot...just compare gnome-control-center on GNOME in 12.04 to what it's like now | 19:49 |
| bjsnider | someone should have put the kibosh on this before it became a thing | 19:49 |
| bjsnider | while it was still an idea and not yet a thing | 19:49 |
| jbicha | gnome-user-share has been that way for quite a while I believe | 19:49 |
| bjsnider | yeah but how many gnome users realize they're running httpd? | 19:50 |
| jbicha | Debian & Ubuntu don't have much presence in driving GNOME development | 19:50 |
| bjsnider | it doesn't pop up and say "you are running a web server. i hope you know that." | 19:50 |
| jbicha | and in this case, Debian didn't patch apache2 out of gnome-user-share (so it's shipped by default) | 19:51 |
| roasted | it also seems as if my exchange services work in my Fedora VM but not in the regular instance of Ubuntu gnome.... :-\ | 19:51 |
| jbicha | roasted: 13.04 or 13.10? | 19:52 |
| roasted | calendar and all. I think that's a first. | 19:52 |
| roasted | saucy | 19:52 |
| jbicha | and you have ubuntu-gnome-desktop installed? go ahead and file a bug | 19:53 |
| roasted | but I recall having this issue with my 13.04 instance too | 19:53 |
| roasted | I'll check in a minute here | 19:53 |
| jbicha | it should be handled by evolution-data-server-goa | 19:54 |
| jbicha | but there's lots of pieces involved, from evolution to gnome-control-center and gnome-online-accounts | 19:54 |
| roasted | Ubuntu GNOME desktop installed on saucy | 19:57 |
| roasted | cancel that | 19:58 |
| roasted | exchange integration works in saucy | 19:58 |
| roasted | maybe it was raring that didn't | 19:58 |
| jbicha | ok, in raring make sure evolution-data-server-goa is installed | 19:59 |
| jbicha | we don't have anything explicitly depending on it in the GNOME3 PPA for Raring yet | 19:59 |
| jbicha | oh never mind, that version of EDS hasn't been backported to the GNOME3 PPA | 20:00 |
| roasted | this is great. I don't think I've ever had calendar and native exchange support in evolution | 20:01 |
| jbicha | darkxst: do you have any thoughts on this patch? https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gnome-settings-daemon/enable-ibus-support/+merge/171856 | 20:02 |
| roasted | the own cloud piece is a definite bummer though. | 20:02 |
| roasted | but it kooks like the own cloud integration Just adds a web DAV link in nautilus. it doesn't look like it does any actual file syncing like the client | 20:03 |
| roasted | What's different about Gnome's integration of Exchange services between 13.04 with Gnome3 PPA and 13.10? I have full syncing in 13.10, but nothing whatsoever in 13.04 + Gnome3 PPA... | 21:44 |
| darkxst | roasted owncloud webdav needs gvfs built against g-o-a | 22:42 |
| roasted | darkxst: so I guess that's what UbuGNOME is missing? | 22:44 |
| darkxst | roasted its on staging ppa | 22:45 |
| roasted | darkxst: I'm on 13.10... | 22:46 |
| roasted | would it not be there? | 22:46 |
| darkxst | gvfs in the archives is not built against g-o-a | 22:46 |
| jbicha | darkxst: I'm guessing that would hit bug 1193018 then :( | 22:46 |
| ubot5 | bug 1193018 in evolution-data-server (Ubuntu) "GOA support not completely split" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1193018 | 22:46 |
| darkxst | jbicha, yeh | 22:47 |
| jbicha | we should ask seb128 about it anyway | 22:47 |
| darkxst | well I havent actually looked too closely, but I expect so | 22:48 |
| roasted | darkxst: not entirely sure I follow. I took this as a limitation of the PPA in 13.04, but 13.10... I would have expected it to work... is this to say that gvfs won't be built against g-o-a at any point, even for future releases? | 22:49 |
| darkxst | roasted, we still need to work out some things with g-o-a in the main archives, i.e. the bug jbicha posted | 22:50 |
| roasted | darkxst: ah, I thought that was a separate issue... evolution+gmail vs gvfs+owncloud. | 22:51 |
| darkxst | well the root issue is the same, i.e. gvfs can't have a runtime dependency on goa | 22:53 |
| roasted | ah | 22:53 |
| darkxst | jbicha, I don't get why he wants to avoid using gnome-desktop 3.8 symbol? | 22:54 |
| roasted | evolution with gmail and exchange seem to work great in 13.10, for what it's worth. | 22:54 |
| roasted | both with mail and calendars | 22:54 |
| darkxst | jbicha, ok I see, that symbol was removed | 23:23 |
| darkxst | jbicha, https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/commit/?id=55fee0c57563b95deddc4396eec87ab6bee35d34 | 23:24 |
| darkxst | might be better to use that git patch | 23:24 |
| jbicha | you can suggest that to him | 23:25 |
| darkxst | ok | 23:32 |
| darkxst | jbicha, so I assume ibus 1.5 will land soon? | 23:49 |
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