[07:09] <dholbach> good morning
[07:27] <iulian> Morning dholbach.
[07:28] <dholbach> hi iulian
[07:28] <ajmitch> hi dholbach, iulian, *
[07:28] <iulian> Hi there ajmitch.
[07:28] <dholbach> hey ajmitch
[07:44] <geser> good morning
[15:48] <TheLordOfTime> any MOTU around?
[15:48] <TheLordOfTime> erm, nevermind i have to talk to dev because main :/
[15:48] <TheLordOfTime> ... wait... stupid LP it's showing different data.  yeah I do need to talk to a MOTU.
[15:49] <smartboyhw> !ask | TheLordOfTime
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> fine you always love calling that.
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> i'll just say "there's a reason i don't want to discuss this in a public channel at the moment"
[15:52] <TheLordOfTime> but anyways, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bitcoin is out of date in prior releases to Raring and it being updated is horribly broken.  prior to Raring, in Quantal and earlier, the program can not keep up with later versions of the software, such that Precise will not work with the corresponding "bitcoin blockchaion" ever due to tons of changes implemented in Raring and Saucy
[15:52] <TheLordOfTime> having said this, the package tends to miss security updates as core changes which would require version bumps aren't being applied
[15:52] <TheLordOfTime> i'm curious how that is still in Ubuntu, and whether anyone could potentially put that in the list of packages which might need to be excluded in ubuntu later, unless we can version bump everything prior
[15:53] <ScottK> TheLordOfTime: If it's security updates, discuss it in #u-hardened.
[15:53] <TheLordOfTime> ScottK:  excluding security updates
[15:53] <TheLordOfTime> the software is still broken earlier
[15:53] <TheLordOfTime> because of upstream-introduced core changes that are included in Raring and Saucy
[15:54] <TheLordOfTime> i mean, a backport *could* possibly be done and i know what's in saucy give or take a few changes does build for Ubuntu
[15:54] <TheLordOfTime> (case in point a corresponding PPA)
[15:54] <TheLordOfTime> however, in Precise, i guarantee that version *will not work*
[15:54] <TheLordOfTime> same with QUantal
[15:55] <TheLordOfTime> this bug specifically
[15:55] <TheLordOfTime> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bitcoin/+bug/1159832
[15:55] <ScottK> We'd need someone who was going to consistently pay attention to the package.
[15:55] <TheLordOfTime> and apparently i see a fix in -proposed for quantal and precise
[15:56] <TheLordOfTime> ScottK:  true, and i don't know who, but now that I look at -proposed for precise and quantal there looks to be code changes that address the "will not work" thing
[15:57] <ScottK> Then it needs someone to verify.
[15:57]  * TheLordOfTime sighs
[15:57] <TheLordOfTime> i'll need to dig up a quantal vm then
[15:57] <TheLordOfTime> and a precise one
[18:48] <obounaim> Hi everybody,
[19:25] <obounaim> Where can I find a complete list of packages that need a merge from Debian?
[19:26] <paultag> obounaim: it's been a long damn time since I've done any Ubuntu anything, but https://merges.ubuntu.com/ might be helpful
[19:26] <paultag> so that might be just entirely out of date (likely is)
[20:00] <obounaim> is harvest a better alternative to https://merges.ubuntu.com/?
[20:57] <ScottK> No.
[20:57] <ScottK> Merges.ubuntu.com should be up to date.
[20:57] <ScottK> If it isn't, it should be fixed.
[21:00] <paultag> Ah, ok. Thanks ScottK.
[21:01] <paultag> I was just here for some silly reason (I think dput-ng) and saw the question.
[21:01] <ScottK> No problem.
[21:02] <Unit193> Said at the bottom, "Generated at 2013-07-08 20:41:52 UTC", so hopefully that'd be one indicator.
[21:10] <paultag> I didn't know if launchpad grew MoM features
[21:10] <paultag> and if someone forgot to turn the lights off, I could have been duped :)
[21:10]  * paultag looks at revu to see if there's a notice there yet
[21:11] <paultag> whoh, awesome, it's finally off.
[21:11] <ScottK> Yeah.
[21:12] <ScottK> The fact that it lived on a Hardy sparc box meant it was going to expire eventually.
[21:12] <paultag> bwahaha