[03:45] Noskcaj, I think the Lubuntu team is going to have a crisis:P [06:09] Good Morning all :-) === JoseAntonioR is now known as JoseeAntonioR === iahmad is now known as iahmad|afk === zequence_ is now known as zequence === iahmad|afk is now known as iahmad [09:17] jibel, hey :-) in the list of required autopkgtests. Under functionality tests it has evince using autopilot. How would this work as a-p-t uses server cloud-images? is there a way to get a desktop env? [09:39] DanChapman, Good morning, xvfb is usually a good solution for this kind of testing + dbus-launch if you need a full dbus session [09:39] DanChapman, you can look at autopkgtest for apport or ubiquity for example [09:41] DanChapman, also for evince, I deployed a job that runs autopilot tests from branch production [09:41] DanChapman, results are here https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-ubuntu-applications/ [09:45] jibel, awesome cheers. Yeah it was more out of curiosity to see how a-p-t works and since I had an evince test here i thought i would try that. Just a bit of learning really. I didnt realise the production branch was already up on jenkins. I see only firefox is failing atm. === psivaa is now known as psivaa-lunch === fader_` is now known as fader_ === _salem is now known as salem_ === cking_ is now known as cking === psivaa-lunch is now known as psivaa === cjohnston_ is now known as cjohnston [14:07] balloons, ping === josepht_ is now known as josepht [14:25] jibel, pong [14:27] Hey balloons [14:28] balloons, I added a job for the production branch https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-ubuntu-applications/ [14:28] jibel, :-) [14:28] balloons, that's 48 tests [14:28] balloons, hey, I started writing my first Autopilot QML test [14:28] :P [14:28] well 24 per archi [14:29] ahh, kk.. [14:29] balloons, it runs once a day around 2100UTC [14:29] smartboyhw, ohh nice! how's it going? [14:29] balloons, tests run on hardware on intel and ati, if you want to run trunk too, let me know, I'll add another job for that [14:30] hmm.. trunk will likely fail, I'm not sure it makes sense to add it.. The only differences would be the failing tests I think :-) [14:30] So it looks like firefox failed though [14:30] balloons, smartboyhw hey o/ [14:31] DanChapman, hello! [14:31] balloons, it looks like the firefox tests are timing out waiting on webpages to load [14:32] should we try increasing the timeout? [14:32] lol, nice.. might be a fire wall issue internally [14:32] balloons, did the first part [14:32] Now trying to understand how to drag the clock interface [14:32] ahh ok... [14:32] I mean, how to drag the minute and hours hands [14:33] brb reboot required... [14:36] smartboyhw, ohh really? there's drag functionality shown in the sdk emulator [14:37] let me grab an example.. basically it's down press, move up press [14:37] balloons, we don't want to use the emulator yes [14:37] *yet [14:37] Since nik90 said he would rather want to wait the functions integrated into sdk before using such functions [14:38] smartboyhw, I meant showing an example of how it worked :-) [14:39] balloons, heh [14:39] I have code to reference though [14:39] But I am leaving soon for London [14:39] self.autopilot.pointing_device.drag(x, y, stopx, stopy) [14:39] so not too bad [14:40] smartboyhw, ahh yes Lodon.. till August yes? [14:40] balloons, July 31st to be exact [14:40] I will be back that day [14:40] enjoy your trip [14:40] coming to my part of the world smartboyhw [14:40] jibel, so the autopilot tests are really cool, thanks for that. Have you spoken with psivaa about it? [14:41] DanChapman, oh really? [14:42] smartboyhw, Yeah well im just on the north edge of London [14:42] DanChapman, ooh interesting [14:46] gema_: whats going on with the server smoke tests? [14:49] smartboyhw, yes I think you'll find you can interact with many more folks from London without it being 10 pm at night before they wake up :-) [14:49] balloons, lol [15:01] asac: they are broken [15:01] gema_: i see that :) ... but whats the reason? do we know? [15:02] asac, bug 1197484 [15:02] asac: there's a bug attached to it on the report [15:02] bug 1197484 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu) "Connection requests to saucy server VMs from a precise host fail after fresh VM installs" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1197484 [15:02] seems to not be helping much [15:02] asac: you can even click on it! [15:02] jamespage: what's the problem? [15:02] gema_, just reading it now [15:02] jamespage: ack [15:02] (I clicked the link ;-)) [15:02] jamespage: cool beans :D [15:03] * DanChapman is wondering if vala is worth learning [15:04] gema_: the bug is incomplete [15:05] asac: it's not, but jamespage is on it [15:05] err ... it was incomplete a few minutes ago [15:05] asac: it was marked as incomplete, if you read it, siva already gave more information [15:05] hey balloons, what phone should I get to help with dogfooding? [15:05] mine has broken, so I'll buy myself something pretty :) [15:06] gema_: which team is siva ... and which team is jamespage in? [15:07] jamespage: let me know once you know what the issue was... in particular if it was caused by something like a package update/sync in the core system. thanks [15:07] asac: psivaa is in my team and jamespage is on the server team [15:07] kk [15:11] elopio, :-) I'm in a similar boat but I've got the tablet to fall back on. I think it probably hard to bypass the price point and availability on the nexus 4 if you can get it [15:11] the galaxy nexus works well too, but it's not available so easily [15:14] balloons: nexus 4 sounds nice. I might end with a nexus 7 and stop receiving calls when not at home. That might be fun too :) [15:15] ohh.. becoming a little disconnected ;-) [15:16] elopio, so how's the emulator merges coming along? did you solve the breakage? [15:17] balloons: no, my faith is on thomi, I still don't understand it, nor how to debug it. [15:17] ahh right [15:18] so, instead of working on the emulators I gave a look at otto. [15:18] ahh yes, really neat tool [15:18] that's a nice tool, that does a lot of things we are missing on u1. [15:19] balloons: lets talkt tomorrow. I'll have some time this week, so if we are still blocked with the emulators, maybe I can help with something else. [15:20] balloons, so, how did our Cadence Week 2 testing go? [15:20] You have to summarize:P [15:32] hi [15:32] can someone review this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5855690/ [15:32] I am trying to validate title string of empathy in autopilot [15:32] senan, hello === plars_ is now known as plars [15:33] smartboyhw, I have to review it, but you too can see what happened by having a look yourself at the milestone [15:33] balloons, meh [15:34] elopio, sounds like a plan. there's always actualy tests to write === balloons changed the topic of #ubuntu-quality to: Welcome to Ubuntu Quality | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam | Cadence Week 3 starts July 20th! | Cadence Week Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Cadence/Saucy [15:35] smartboyhw, Monday mornings are always busy.. full of planning and review. But I mean to get something out to everyone on how we did.. not just you! [15:35] balloons, I didn't do anything:P [15:36] ;-p [15:36] balloons, it's rather interesting, my autopilot test [15:36] You know, it's for Clock app [15:36] senan, ok so I'm having a look at this [15:36] Adding a preset timer [15:36] balloons, thanks [15:37] does empathy have a .title property? It says it doesn't ;-) [15:37] I'd have to fire vis up to check, let's see [15:38] ohh.. vis has an error looking at this.. interesting [15:38] I should update :-) [15:40] anyways, senan I believe you'll have to use something else to check the title [15:40] I won't know until I update and can run vis :-) [15:41] I take it your writing this for the ubuntu-autopilot-tests project? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/ [15:41] balloons, i tried empathy the other day and it looked as though it wouldn't load the autopilot interface. [15:41] balloons, But in the demos the title string is taken kike this [15:41] *like this [15:42] DanChapman, I agree in the past I don't think it worked.. But it appeared to load for me just now :) [15:42] perhaps pitti's fixes have done there part here [15:43] senan, if you use the old processmanager, aka non-introspection way of loading things yes you can do it like that [15:43] self.app = self.proc_manager.start_app_window("File Browser") [15:43] self.assertThat(lambda: self.app.title, Eventually(Contains('Home'))) [15:43] That for example is from the nautilus case :-) [15:44] ok, what is the new way of comparing the title string ? [15:44] it depends on the app, afaik.. for instance in gedit I see we do this: documents = self.app.select_single('GeditTab') [15:44] self.assertThat(lambda: documents[0].name, Eventually(Contains(fileName))) [15:45] you can see gedit tabs have a name property.. perhaps you'll look at the gtkwindow label, or name [15:45] balloons, senan, with empathy on a new install you first have to deal with GOA. which may cause some bother [15:45] gtk is a bit less set in stone with these things than a qml applicatoin [15:46] the .title property may exist, but on a different root node [15:46] * balloons almost finished updating :-) [15:46] we'll have an answer soon enough [15:46] Dan: That I was about to ask [15:47] smartboyhw, is your autopilot test in lp anywherE? [15:47] balloons, no. [15:47] Since it's still WIP. [15:47] you should push it up :-).. [15:47] balloons, NO.\ [15:47] It hasn't been finished and is still crappy. [15:47] :P [15:47] lol.. ok.. you don't have to merge it, but having it in a branch on lp is useful for just you [15:48] there's a reason +junk exists, lol [15:48] balloons, LOL [15:48] ROFL [15:48] Anyways [15:49] senan, btw, glad your helping out on writing these tests, ty ;-) [15:49] ok, wild.. vis still crashes for me [15:50] senan, even if we could introspect empathy there have been troubles with introspecting seperate programs within a test like the evince test for example it originally used yelp to create a sample pdf but we were unable to introspect yelp as it wasn't a child window of evince but a seperate process. I imagine GOA would be the same. You could try and hack your way round with loads of keyboard commands but that will get messy [15:50] mm DanChapman I see what you mean.. I get the online account popup right away [15:50] balloons, i just tried and it launches empathy fine but doesnt load the auto gtk interface. [15:51] autopilot launch empathy [15:51] Autopilot GTK interface loaded. [15:51] :-O [15:51] It doesnt for me :-( [15:51] saucy / raring? [15:51] saucy [15:52] Autopilot Source Version: 1.3.1 Autopilot Package Version: [15:52] 1.3.1+13.10.20130703bzr260saucy0 [15:53] senan, so is this your first go at a gtk autopilot app? If so, I might suggest expanding an existing app or tackling a qml app at first to get your feet wet. Some of the gtk apps don't play so nice and aren't a good way to start :-) [15:53] balloons: Yes it is. Can you suggest one app ? [15:55] if your open to working on the ubuntu touch core apps, they are in qml and more straightforward to run and test :-) if you want to stay on gtk side of things, look at the trunk branch for ubuntu-autopilot-tests and pick an app you like that already has some tests. It'll be easier for you to add one to it, as everything is already working :-) [15:56] * smartboyhw does NOT recommend gtk BTW:P [15:56] smartboyhw, where is your sense of adventure :-P [15:57] DanChapman, well I'm a new beginner, ofc I don't recommend gtk [15:57] for example, weather has a nice set of autopilot tests.. it's a core app in qml: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app [15:57] you can see how qml works in this little tutorial with an example app: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tutorials/quality/how-to-write-autopilot-tests/ [15:58] the primary difference is that with the qml apps, you have the layout and properties of the items you want to introspect [15:59] you can open the qml file, see the layout and know what to grab.. Of course you can use the vis tool also, and QT doesn't spawn lots of noise, so the object tree is easier to understand [16:01] thanks [16:01] hey balloons :) [16:02] gtk apps can be fun too, because of the challenge of finding out how to introspect them, but you don't need that additional challenge as a beginner [16:02] knome, hello [16:03] what's up? [16:04] knome, well, generally, the sky :-) [16:04] har har.. [16:04] balloons, bad joke there [16:05] no, good one, but dry [16:05] i love that joke :-p [16:05] * smartboyhw sighs [16:06] balloons, we can't write autopilot tests for Mir right? (LOL) [16:06] It's after all a non-GUI test [16:07] MIR's a bite lower level.. in general you don't directly interact with it as a user [16:08] balloons, an autopkgtest? [16:08] Triggering the unit tests? [16:08] smartboyhw, yes [16:08] balloons, well get someone write one:P [16:11] Maybe I will write one one day. [16:11] But for now, it's sleep. [16:11] smartboyhw, well, very soon they will have mir tests landing on the dashboard for this [16:11] balloons, great! [16:12] I'm thinking of writing autopilot tests for Unity 8 though [16:12] * smartboyhw gets full of ideas successfully [16:12] smartboyhw, :-) just ping me before you start.. unity for instance has a nice test suite also [16:12] balloons, sure. [16:12] Good night balloons [16:12] good night smartboyhw [16:37] balloons, any idea how to get rhythmbox to forget i ever played a music track? even when i delete the playlist, track etc. On relaunch it's still there [16:40] DanChapman, you could try removing via the --purge option to remove the config files [16:40] should remove all traces [16:41] I'm not sure what . folder/files would need to be removed, but --purge knows :-) [16:41] balloons, ok will give that a try cheers fella [17:24] wild, launching autopilot with -vvv let's me introspect empathy [17:25] senan.. so autopilot launch empathy, autopilot vis -vvv works :-) The error is still there but it doesn't bomb ou [17:25] xeranas, hello! [17:37] hi, balloons [17:38] hi :-) How's everything going? Autopilot treating you well? [17:38] I solve "clicking issue" using ubuntusdk.py emulator [17:39] I wonder is this emulator is official or just for sample [17:40] xeranas_, I wrote the emulator, but elopio has been doing the work to try and make it more integrated officially as part of the sdk [17:40] it's certainly ok to use, but that's the goal and direction [17:46] xeranas, care to share your code? I'll give it a run :-) [17:51] Since I was do a lot mess with first tries, I begin from scratch on another app, sudoku. But there was no structure created so I create structure with window test copied from rssreader and changing names. [17:52] xeranas, cool! [17:53] well as usual let me know if I can help out. A good first commit would be to add the test structure for the tests [17:53] and maybe one simple test to go with it, so the foundation is in place [17:56] I'm not very familiar with bzr and launchpad, did there are some review-board or something similar? [17:57] xeranas_, yes you issue what's called a merge request [17:57] I can walk you through it easily enough right now ;-) [17:58] what's your launchpad id? [18:00] xeranas [18:00] this is the official docs on how to do it, but it's pretty simple.. I'll leave it for reference, but we'll walkthrough it together: https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Review/#Proposing_a_merge [18:00] ok, so all of your code ends up being visible here: https://code.launchpad.net/~xeranas [18:00] so at the moment, you haven't pushed anything to launchpad [18:01] xeranas_, so first there's a one time setup you'll need to do [18:01] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/Launchpad#SSH_keys [18:01] basically create an ssh key and setup bzr.. It should only take a couple mins to do it. Once that's done I'll help you with the next step [18:02] fortunately you only have to do this setup once :-) [18:11] added [18:11] xeranas_, cool I see the ssh key :-) [18:11] ok so you've changed some things in the source code correct? [18:12] so you'll need to commit them to bzr so all your changes are accounted for [18:12] what's bzr status show? [18:12] if everything is committed all you need to do is push the branch to launchpad and ask it to be merged [18:12] if not, let's commit it :-) [18:13] DanChapman, do you plan to expand the ubiquity testcases to beyond the default install or ? [18:14] balloons, Yes i would love to if its wanted? [18:14] DanChapman, I would love to see it all the mandatory ones covered [18:15] also I wanted to get it added to the daily smoke testing asap.. has it merged into ubiquity? [18:15] not yet. [18:16] xnox, ;-) [18:16] balloons, well I will make a start on them then. [18:17] DanChapman, that would be cool to have the whole suite.. really cool. I think you've done 90% of the work, as it's just about selecting slightly different things.. [18:18] xeranas_, so did you follow everything I wrote? [18:18] balloons: after commit, comes command 'push'? just like in mercurial? [18:18] xeranas_, yep bzr push [18:19] xeranas_, in this case it would look something like this bzr push lp:~xerans/sudoku-app/YOUR_NAME_FOR_BRANCH [18:19] xeranas_, when you do that it will end up in 2 places.. here; https://code.launchpad.net/sudoku-app and here: https://code.launchpad.net/~xeranas [18:20] then you click on it and select propose for merge.. ;-) [18:21] balloons, yeah i thought it would be as well. :-) [18:23] balloons: did I need create branch before push? [18:23] balloons, have you noticed nautilus can now be introspected? I will create a bug for it so we can get it off using procmanager and get it into production [18:23] xeranas_, the branch your pushing should be a copy of your local bzr branch [18:24] DanChapman, ?! I had heard rumors :-) [18:24] DanChapman, vasudevan has been working on it.. I think he could use some of your help [18:25] balloons: bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xeranas/sudoku-app/autopilot-training": no supported schemes [18:26] probably I should read bzr manuals before start using it:) [18:26] xeranas_, :-) No worries! [18:27] so you did bzr push lp:~xeranas/sudoku-app/autopilot-training [18:28] balloons, cool, i'll send him an email if I don't see him on here today. [18:28] balloons: yea [18:29] hmm.. that should work [18:29] ohh [18:29] bzr whoami [18:29] what does it say? [18:30] it says xeranas and my email, bzr force me to do whoami before commit [18:30] right, good :-) [18:30] so that's a bit weird [18:31] maybe ssh keys problem, it always pain to set up github for me, so I end up using https.. in most cases [18:31] well try again and see if it happens again [18:31] if so we'll try pushing to +junk and then doing something a bit more interesting [18:33] before that I will try several more times, maybe recreate ssh keys [18:33] sorry for the trouble :-( [18:38] balloons: done, seems I forget "bzr launchpad-login xeranas" [18:39] xeranas_, right.. I suspected that as the problem.. hence the whoami question.. I should have just told you to run that command anyway [18:39] sorry! [18:39] balloons: is there any information what should I wrote in "Propose branch for merging"? or leave defaults? [18:40] ahh... you found the link :-) Yes, so add a brief description about what you've done so people can review and understand the merge request [18:41] something like added autopilot tests structure, etc works fine [18:41] doesn't have to be big or long, just anything that might be needed to review [18:44] Reviewers leave blank, or I need specified? [18:46] you can leave them blank [18:46] they will default automatically [18:48] xeranas_, I see one small change for you to make :-) [18:49] balloons: ok, thanks for guide to bzr and launchpad :) [18:49] in tests/autopilot/sudoku_app/emulators/main_window.py, you still have ""RSS Reader app autopilot emulators.""".. probably want to rename that :-) [18:49] yea :) [18:49] xeranas_, your most welcome. I'm going to share your work with everyone! It's exciting to see new people writing tests! [18:50] you can simply update your branch and push it again to the same place [18:50] the merge proposal will automatically update :-) [18:51] ohh, one more thing, you don't need the get_item() function from mainwindow.py either so probably makes sense to get rid of it too :-) [18:53] balloons: yea [18:54] So you've come full circle now! Think you've got a better understanding on how to write tests and contribute? [18:55] balloons: real experience always best way to learn [19:01] xeranas_, indeed.. [19:30] Letozaf_, evening! [19:31] Letozaf_, Hey :-) === ara is now known as Guest89175 [19:36] balloons, hello [19:36] DanChapman, Hey [19:36] balloons, did you read my mail ? [19:37] Letozaf_, not sure if I did or not.. The email box is quite full still :-) [19:38] it's funny how 1 day off throws away for a loop :-) [19:38] balloons, yeah! can immagine, sorry forgot about the 4th July :D [19:39] balloons, well I wanted to share a mail with you from Joey Chan on Autopilot [19:39] Letozaf_, ahh, ok.. I wanted to circle back on the rss reader stuff :-) [19:39] I feel like your merge has been pending out there forever :-) [19:39] balloons, yes I have also the Calendar-app that's pending since 06-27 [19:40] wowzers.. so yea, let's fix that :-) [19:40] balloons, but if you read Joey's mail maybe the answer is ther [19:40] sorry there [19:41] balloons, not sure if it's better to wait or continue with Autopilot core app tests [19:46] let me find and read :-) [19:46] Letozaf_, I don't see anything newer than 6/29 from you [19:47] can you send again? [19:47] balloons, do you mean the mail or the merge proposal ? [19:47] the mail you speak of [19:47] then we'll talk about the merge proposals [19:47] balloons, ah! I think the mail is from yesterday or saturday [19:48] balloons, the merge proposal is from 6-27 [19:48] right.. thunderbird shows nothing from carla, so ? [19:48] balloons, but I can send it again [19:48] :-) [19:48] balloons, just sent it [19:49] balloons, subject [Merge]lp:~carla-sella.... [19:51] weird.. why don't i see it? [19:51] ohh.. filters [19:51] zzzzzzz [19:51] balloons, lol [19:52] it went into the automated messages for merges [19:52] there's 388 messages in there, good luck :-) [19:52] balloons, 388 wow! [19:52] balloons, that means a lot of work to do :-Dì) [19:54] Letozaf_, ahh ok I see the mail now [19:55] balloons, fiew :-) [19:55] whew.. yes I think it's a-ok to get the tests in.. we can update them as the code changes [19:55] no big deal [19:55] balloons, fine so I will continue with other tests on rssreader-app [19:55] so let's go look at everything you have pending an get it merged [19:55] balloons, what about the Calendar-app ? [19:56] k, I see https://code.launchpad.net/~carla-sella/ubuntu-rssreader-app/ubuntu-rssreader-test-add-view-feeds/+merge/173316 [19:56] https://code.launchpad.net/~carla-sella/ubuntu-calendar-app/new-event-test/+merge/171878 [19:57] so for the calendar, the devs paused everything because they are reworking the app.. still, I will followup and get them to accept/reject/comment on the merge [19:57] the rss reader shouldn't have any issues and should just be merged :-) [19:58] and you reset the name right, because autolanding on the rss reader still failed [19:58] we can't merge if it's failing :-( [19:59] balloons, yeah but why is it failing ?? [19:59] balloons, I also added some new tests [19:59] balloons, can I fix it some way ? [20:01] Letozaf_, let's go look at the test runs to see why it's failing [20:01] it shows success for both runs for me on the comment, but then overall a failure [20:02] I'm confused [20:02] balloons, don't tell me :P [20:02] fginther, are you about? [20:04] balloons, hello [20:05] fginther, can I bug you for just a moment to look at this merge and see why jenkins failed it? https://code.launchpad.net/~carla-sella/ubuntu-rssreader-app/ubuntu-rssreader-test-add-view-feeds/+merge/173316 [20:06] mm.. wait, I do think I finally see some failures [20:06] Letozaf_, http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests/44/ [20:07] balloons, yes, the autopilot tests failed. However, there also appears to be a bug in the jenkins tools. It should indicate the failure in the launchpad comment [20:07] fginther, sure.. It's confusing to read and look at.. At first glance everything I looked through passed with success, and the commend says so too :-) [20:10] balloons, fginther the weired thing is that on my notebook everything works fine without errors [20:10] balloons, do not understand why in Jenkins I get those errors how do I fix them if I do not get them on my notebook [20:10] ? [20:11] Letozaf_, it could be a missing dependency or some other difference in the environment [20:11] Letozaf_, I'll take a look since this testing is relatively new [20:12] fginther, thanks [20:12] fginther, ohh, thank you for the offer! [20:19] Right im calling it a day. See you all tomorrow folks [20:20] DanChapman, night mate! [20:20] DanChapman, 'night [20:53] balloons, i've left a few of the manual testcase merges for you, can you have a look at them? [20:55] Noskcaj, shoot [20:57] my parole one: https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu-manual-tests/parole/+merge/172212 and elfy's three: https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/XFCESession/+merge/172539 https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/1574_xfce4settings/+merge/172850 https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/XFCE_App_finder/+merge/172811 [20:57] also, what things do we want in the "xfce" folder and what don't we [20:58] and you have a lot to update on the qa-tracker. lots of testcases came in on the weekend [21:09] Noskcaj, :-) keeping me busy :-) [21:10] that's my plan [21:10] on the xfce thing, knome moved things over into it.. my guess is all the xfce specific stuff they want to go in there, since it's large enough to sort out [21:10] it doesn't affect the syncing in any way.. so the sorting is just for us [21:10] ok, when kknome is next online i'll see if he wants the other xfce4 things in there === francisco is now known as Guest93946 [21:17] Noskcaj, perfect === salem_ is now known as _salem [21:24] Noskcaj, yes, the ideal solution would be to group all the things under the Xfce subdirectory [21:26] knome, should i add bulk_renamer and the three xfce4 tests to it then [21:26] what are the "three xfce4 tests" ? [21:27] bulk renamer is thunar, right? will there be other thunar tests? (most possibly yes) [21:27] maybe the thunar tests can be left out at least [21:29] xfce4panel, xfce4settings and xfce4 ppearance settings [21:29] *appearance [21:30] settings and appearance can go at least, i'm not sure about panel [21:30] it can go under the xfce subdir at least in bzr [21:42] knome, if you responded, i didn't see it. my internet keeps crashing in 13.10 [21:44] 00:30 knome: settings and appearance can go at least, i'm not sure about panel [21:44] 00:30 knome: it can go under the xfce subdir at least in bzr [21:47] ok, so all three? [21:48] yes. [21:50] knome, should xfdeesktop settings be in xfce? (it's a new test) [21:51] we can group that too [21:52] ok, everything is being pushed now === JoseeAntonioR is now known as j === j is now known as JoseeAntonioR === JoseeAntonioR is now known as jose [22:25] thomi: hi [22:25] asac: Hi [22:26] thomi: so i have http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~thomir/+junk/runbench/ branched on my phone ... and wonder how to run it :) [22:26] asac: do you hav mir-demos installed? [22:26] get: [22:26] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5856777/ [22:26] asac: and also glmark2-es ? [22:26] probably not :) [22:26] let me see [22:26]