[00:54] <snap-l> Evening
[00:54] <snap-l> We'll be starting the meeting in 6 minutes
[01:03] <snap-l> Hello everyone
[01:04] <snap-l> Let's get the meeting started.
[01:04] <snap-l> Who all is on the line?
[01:10] <snap-l> Right
[01:10] <snap-l> OK
[01:10] <snap-l> Well, I guess this will be more of an announce-only meeting then. :)
[01:10] <snap-l> First up: Ohio Linuxfest is approaching
[01:10] <snap-l> September 13th - 15th
[01:11] <snap-l> unfortunately I won't be able to make it this year
[01:11] <snap-l> but it would be nice to have a presence there if possible
[01:11] <snap-l> last year we partnered with the Ohio loco to help staff the table
[01:11] <snap-l> So there's that option
[01:12] <snap-l> Bu if there's something else that someone would like to organize, that would be awesome.
[01:12] <snap-l> Unfortunately that weekend is also overloaded, as that's the same weekend of the Global Jam for the S-Series
[01:13] <snap-l> Which I'm thinking will once again be online, as it'll be even more interesting to try to get people together that weekend
[01:14] <snap-l> But will also allow folks who are at OLF to participate if they'd like to
[01:14] <snap-l> Perhaps we could hold some form of BOF online?
[01:14] <snap-l> and in person?
[01:15] <snap-l> Dunno, but there's about 2 months, so there's some time
[01:15] <snap-l> Any questions?
[01:16] <snap-l> Or anything else for that matter?
[01:17] <waldo323> not from me, but i got in late
[01:17] <snap-l> Heh
[01:26] <snap-l> OK, well I'll post these ideas on the mailing list as well.
[01:27] <snap-l> Unless there's anything else, we'll call it a meeting.
[01:27] <snap-l> Thanks, everyone!
[01:27] <waldo323> thank you
[01:30] <snap-l> Mail sent
[01:30] <snap-l> AFK.,
[01:32] <brousch> damni
[03:21] <rwcitek> There seems to be a fair amount of lag between what is posted here and when it appears in the logs:  http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/07/08/%23ubuntu-us-mi.txt
[03:37] <waldo323> yeah i noticed that too
[03:49] <rwcitek> Just for reference, it's currently 03:49 UTC and my previous post still is not in the logs.
[03:54] <rwcitek> Now that it is 03:54 UTC, this is a 30+ minute lag.
[10:52] <rick_h_> morning and owwwwwwwww
[10:53] <snap-l> Post trip ouchies?
[10:53] <rick_h_> I can feel the muscles in my fingers...ow
[12:21] <snap-l> Good morning, btw.
[12:22] <rick_h_> yea, morning...that's it
[12:23] <snap-l> Heh
[12:23] <rick_h_> no mug for me this month :(
[12:24] <snap-l> :(
[12:24] <snap-l> And we got a special guest speaker and everything
[12:24] <rick_h_> yea
[12:25] <brousch> Too busy soaking in your own sweat?
[12:25] <snap-l> brb, reboot work machine
[12:28] <rick_h_> pretty much. have a bunch of work to do at home, lawn/etc now that we're back and no way to take evening off
[12:40] <brousch> Legit? http://paste.mitechie.com/show/981/
[12:45] <snap-l> brousch:  Never heard of the magazine before
[12:45] <snap-l> But if you feel like writing, go for it. :)
[12:45] <snap-l> Just don't expect to get paid in a timely manner. :)
[12:48] <snap-l> Looks like a German company
[12:49] <snap-l> Or Polish
[12:49] <snap-l> Not sure
[12:58] <rick_h_> dinos for jcastro http://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/9237171571/in/photostream/
[13:37] <snap-l> http://i.imgur.com/xB6P0Vm.png
[13:39] <trevlar> yikes
[13:40] <brousch> snap-l: I haven't heard of it either. The website seems legit
[14:08] <jrwren> what is the difference between 'from x import y as z' and 'import x.y as z' ?
[14:09] <rick_h_> jrwren: can't think of any.
[14:09] <brousch> I've not seen the latter
[14:10] <rick_h_> import simplejson as json
[14:10] <rick_h_> just the nested format of that
[14:10] <brousch> But I've not seen this nested format you speak of
[14:11] <jrwren> brousch: really?  import lxml.etree as ET you haven't seen?
[14:11] <rick_h_> it's not that often that people do the alias all together, so not surprised
[14:12] <brousch> i have not seen that. When it's inside a module I've always seen from module import thing
[14:15] <brousch> pep8 says it's OK though
[14:16] <jrwren> its definitely OK
[14:16] <jrwren> just wanted to make sure the two statements were equiv. I thought they were, but python has really been making me a fool lately.
[15:20] <snap-l> jrwren: Join the club. :)
[15:28] <greg-g_> ugh
[15:29] <greg-g_> 7am came way too early
[15:32] <jrwren> i agree
[15:33] <rick_h_> +1
[15:33] <rick_h_> though 6:30 here
[15:37] <snap-l> /$TIME/MOnday/g
[15:37] <rick_h_> hah
[15:44] <greg-g_> snap-l: yeah, that too
[15:45] <greg-g_> we didn't get home until 11:30 last night, hella traffic going back to SF
[15:45] <greg-g_> but man, so worth it where we went, I want to move there
[15:45] <snap-l> Michigan? :)
[15:45] <rick_h_> lol
[15:48] <greg-g_> snap-l: good try :P
[15:48] <greg-g_> it's an area known as "The Ridge", it's on the San Juan Ridge, north of Lake Tahoe area, but not full of yuppies
[15:49] <greg-g_> still semi affordable land that is both in the mountains and farmable
[16:28] <rick_h_> I don't know if I should laugh cry or love it http://coffitivity.com/
[16:35] <snap-l> rick_h_: Yeah, I think that came up Wednesday or Friday of last week
[16:36] <snap-l> "Get your offline Coffitivity fix - Signup to hear when we release our iOS/Mac apps!"
[16:37] <greg-g_> I kind of liked it
[16:37] <greg-g_> I didn't want to
[16:37] <greg-g_> really oh so badly didn't want to
[16:43] <rick_h_> greg-g_: yea, I mean at least it's interesting
[16:43] <rick_h_> but I can't help but think "get your coffee shop social time without actually leaving your house!"
[16:44] <rick_h_> not that sitting and ignoring everyone else at the coffee shop is 'social' time I guess
[16:47] <greg-g_> right
[18:22] <jrwren> greg-g: unpossible. there is no affordable nondesert land in CA
[18:22] <greg-g> :)
[19:22] <snap-l> alyankovic: The L.A. Zoo is the rudest ever.  I waved to all the animals, and not a SINGLE one waved back.  #YelpReview
[19:28] <jrwren> i think I really like the new askubuntu theme.
[19:28] <jrwren> i did get a new theme, right?
[19:31] <snap-l> I think it did. Something to match the Ubuntu One Login, perhaps?
[19:32] <greg-g> jrwren: yeah, so, more of a response: yes, affordable is relative, so for CA it is affordable, for the rest of the country, not anywhere near
[19:32] <greg-g> but man, so beautiful
[19:41] <greg-g> jcastro: can you tell me why the laptop that Canonical jointly created with Dell (again) for the best developer laptop is *still* having kernel related issues? It feels like they don't think these things through. :(
[19:41] <greg-g> actually, here
[19:41] <jrwren> its dell.
[19:41] <greg-g> jcastro: ignore me, I'm going to poke another one
[19:41] <jrwren> wtf do you expect.
[19:42] <greg-g> rick_h_: see above^
[19:42] <greg-g> jrwren: I know. I'm so annoyed at work for choosing this. They bought into the marketing
[19:42] <rick_h_> greg-g: heh, never get dell...my motto for 10 years :P
[19:42] <rick_h_> greg-g: yea, no idea on that stuff.
[19:42] <greg-g> :)
[19:44] <jcastro> what's the issue?
[19:45] <jcastro> greg-g: ^^
[19:46] <greg-g> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/954661
[19:50] <jcastro> are you on precise or ... ?
[19:51] <jcastro> greg-g: ^^
[19:52] <greg-g> jcastro: raring
[19:52] <jcastro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1163720
[19:52] <jcastro> ok so this is your bug then
[19:53] <jcastro> see comment #23
[19:53] <jcastro> see if that works
[19:54] <greg-g> jcastro: I just wanted to rant man, not actually fix it!
[19:54] <greg-g> :P
[19:54] <jcastro> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47941 seems to be the main bug
[19:55] <greg-g> jcastro: I think that works for me (that comment)
[19:55] <jcastro> The only working solution for me is "echo 0 > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness" after boot or resume from suspend.
[19:55] <jcastro> is what that guys says
[19:55] <jcastro> rc.local that shit for now I guess
[19:55] <greg-g> yeppers
[19:56] <jcastro> but yeah, sucks man
[19:57] <greg-g> sorry, didn't really mean to make you do work-type stuff here man
[19:58] <greg-g> jcastro: thanks though
[20:00] <jcastro> lol no worries
[20:00] <jcastro> I AM HERE FOR YOU MAN
[20:00] <jcastro> way more than rick anyway. :p
[20:00] <greg-g> jcastro: HUGS!
[20:01] <greg-g> I mean
[20:01] <greg-g> MAN HUGS!
[20:13] <greg-g> dude who just moved down from the 6th floor to the 3rd floor (where I work) has a model m. the only thing louder than my kinesis
[20:13] <greg-g> (we only use 2 floors, but they aren't adjacent)
[20:26] <snap-l> Seriously? That's some serious typing