[05:19] <glitchd_> hello all
[05:20] <glitchd_> trying to figure out how to use the crtl+alt+bckspc to restart X if im in xubuntu
[05:29] <genii> !dontzap
[05:29] <genii> Hm.
[06:52] <Inverse> Hello
[07:26] <Noskcaj> Are there any rss readers that integrate with the xubuntu desktop?
[07:33] <Pwnna> with 13.10 coming up. what features do we have?
[07:47] <Noskcaj> Pwnna, lots of bugs so far ;)
[07:47] <Pwnna> lol awesome
[07:47] <Noskcaj> ideally xfce4.12 (depends on when they release it
[07:48] <Pwnna> that seems like never
[07:48] <Pwnna> :3
[07:48] <Noskcaj> also, new versions of everything and a slightly updated theme
[07:48] <Noskcaj> so nothing huge
[07:49] <Noskcaj> Pwnna, you could always help us with 13.10?
[07:50] <Pwnna> stable enough to use on a regular machine?
[07:50] <Noskcaj> when we get around to releasing, yes
[07:51] <Noskcaj> http://xubuntu.org/contribute/ and http://community.ubuntu.com/ are the links to get involved
[07:51] <Pwnna> Noskcaj: i'm a dev.. so idk i might be better helping xfce
[07:52] <Noskcaj> ok
[07:52] <Pwnna> i'm still on 12.04
[07:52] <Pwnna> there's a lot of issues with the setup right now
[07:52] <Pwnna> it's hard to fix
[07:52] <Pwnna> so i want to start fresh
[07:52] <Pwnna> but that's hard because so much legacy on this computer..
[07:53] <Pwnna> (was upgraded from 10.10)
[07:53] <Noskcaj> If you do re-install, go for 13.04, it has a lot of improvements over 12.04
[07:54] <Pwnna> i know. i have another machine running 13.04
[07:57] <Sysi> Pwnna: that's not so bad, my friend went from 10.04 to 12.04 without closing his screen process
[07:59] <Pwnna> i wake to nuke everything as i have some weird graphics lock up right now
[07:59] <Pwnna> and also i want to set up WDE
[09:03] <nikolam> will Pidgin on 12.04 LTS be updated? It lacks certificates/ connection with facebook chat.
[09:06] <baizon> nikolam: http://www.pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/
[09:07] <baizon> but i'm not using pidgin, so i can't tell if it helps you
[09:08] <nikolam> I more and more wonder what is the point of LTS if programs are not updated when they start lacking functionality.
[09:09] <Sysi> has there been a bug reported?
[09:11] <nikolam> Sysi, hm, now I try it on another machine with LTS and it works... .hmm
[09:11] <deckard> hello. what kind of tests are recommended after trying the different video drivers offered in ubuntu?
[09:12] <deckard> to determine which driver is working best*
[09:13] <nikolam> as a part of driver development or as testing as a user?
[09:13] <Sysi> try running whatever you need to run and maybe check temperatures with command "sensors"
[09:13] <deckard> user
[09:13] <deckard> i wanna know witch will run my game metter
[09:13] <deckard> b*
[09:13] <Sysi> then, run the game
[09:14] <deckard> and just check fps?
[09:14] <Sysi> if you want a benchmark, there's Unigine Heaven
[09:14] <deckard> ok, ty
[09:14] <nikolam> there is phoronix test suite and glxgears
[09:14] <deckard> what i fi cant tell much of a difference ? go with the newest?
[09:16] <samy> hello
[09:17] <samy> how to find all possible command line tools related to XFS administration?
[09:17] <nikolam> http://openbenchmarking.org/suites/pts
[09:18] <deckard> ty
 how to find all possible command line tools related to XFS administration?
[09:51] <Sysi> man xfs would be a start
[11:34] <samy> thank you
[13:50] <Arroyo1010> samy, IIRC, most of them start with xfs_
[13:51] <Arroyo1010> One, which i use often time, is xfs_growfs -- When i grow a LVM volume, and need to grow the filesystem on that volume (when filesystem is XFS)
[13:51] <knome> Arroyo1010, gone already
[13:51] <Arroyo1010> ah
[13:51] <Arroyo1010> i turned off joins/parts
[13:52] <Arroyo1010> will my keyrings work if i just backup my ~/.local/share/keyrings dir, and restore it?
[13:53] <Arroyo1010> my laptop, single user
[13:59] <Arroyo1010> *crickets*
[14:09] <lderan> !patience
[14:19] <cfhowlett> lderan, actually he was pretty patient.  He pasted that last about 10 minutes ago...
[14:19] <lderan> indeed
[15:01] <samy> hmmm
[15:01] <samy> i have a problem
[15:01] <samy> with cpu clock :s
[15:01] <samy> please help
[15:14] <samy> i m back
[15:16] <lderan> what is your problem?
[15:53] <ByteTripper> hey
[15:53] <ByteTripper> quick question
[15:53] <ByteTripper> I setup xubuntu on mydesktop yesterday
[15:54] <ByteTripper> then i installed the nvidia driver
[15:54] <ByteTripper> and now it wont boot.
[15:55] <ByteTripper> how can i save the install.
[15:55] <ByteTripper> I can't get to a console
[15:55] <ByteTripper> even through recovery
[15:56] <holstein> ByteTripper: pro tip: set up proprietary drivers *first*
[15:56] <ByteTripper> that is the driver i installed.
[15:56] <ByteTripper> [11:54] <ByteTripper> then i installed the nvidia driver
[15:56] <holstein> ByteTripper: one thing to do, is mount the instance live and grab the /home partition.. look while you are in there and see if there is an /xorg.conf
[15:57] <holstein>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf to be precise.. if so, you can try renaming it
[15:57] <ByteTripper> Again can't get a console...
[15:57] <holstein> ByteTripper: im commenting on the timing... you set everything else up, and now you dont want to waste that effort, since the nvidia driver install is being problematic
[15:58] <ByteTripper> during the normal boot it hangs at setting up a swap
[15:58] <holstein> ByteTripper: the "fixes" above are from a live CD.. you *can* get to a live CD, corrrect?
[15:58] <ByteTripper> I can
[15:58] <holstein> ByteTripper: setting up a swap is not an nvidia problem
[15:58] <ByteTripper> but I can't access the installed copy
[15:58] <ByteTripper> I know
[15:58] <ByteTripper> but after swap fails, nvidia fails
[15:58] <holstein> why is swap failing? could it be a bad hard drive?
[15:59] <ByteTripper> may be a bad swap partition
[15:59] <ByteTripper> I guess im stuck reinstalling...?
[16:00] <ByteTripper> I just didn';t like spending 30 minutes getting updates right after I install.
[16:00] <holstein> ByteTripper: right.. thats what im talking about
[16:00] <holstein> ByteTripper: do the nvidia install *first*
[16:00] <ByteTripper> I did
[16:01] <holstein> ByteTripper: dont setup the install, do everything to set everything up, *then* install the nvidia driver
[16:01] <ByteTripper> that what I did
[16:01] <holstein> ByteTripper: thats not what you stated at first.. you said "i set everything up, then installed nvidia, then breakage"
[16:02] <ByteTripper> Yea, i installed xubuntu and did the base setup
[16:02] <ByteTripper> then the nvidia driver\
[16:02] <ByteTripper> I can't install it without xubuntu :P
[16:02] <holstein> ByteTripper: ?
[16:02] <holstein> ByteTripper: i am not suggesting that..
[16:02] <holstein> 11:53 < ByteTripper> I setup xubuntu on mydesktop yesterday
[16:02] <holstein> 11:54 < ByteTripper> then i installed the nvidia driver
[16:02] <ByteTripper> explain please
[16:02] <holstein> ^^ that is what you said
[16:02] <ByteTripper> yea
[16:03] <ByteTripper> setuo my desktop with xubuntu
[16:03] <holstein>  that to me means, i installed xubuntu, set it up *then* installed nvidia
[16:03] <ByteTripper> everything else is stock
[16:03] <holstein> ByteTripper: i say, install xubuntu, install nvidia, test, *then* set it up
[16:03] <holstein> ByteTripper: is that what you did ?
[16:03] <ByteTripper> yea
[16:04] <holstein> if you installed nvidia and all was well, *then* did upgrade and the breakage happened, that is quite different than what you explained
[16:04] <holstein> ByteTripper: which did you do?
[16:04] <ByteTripper> xubuntu
[16:04] <ByteTripper> upgrade
[16:04] <ByteTripper> nvidia
[16:05] <holstein> ByteTripper: ok.. so, look for an xorg.conf from a live CD
[16:05] <ByteTripper> ca'nt access the drive from livecd
[16:05] <ByteTripper> it says its busy
[16:06] <holstein> ByteTripper: what says what is busy?
[16:06] <ByteTripper> the drive
[16:06] <holstein> ByteTripper: ok.. what says the drive is busy?
[16:06] <ByteTripper> the one that has the broken install
[16:07] <holstein> ByteTripper: how are you trying to access the drive? and what exactly reports "the drive is busy"?
[16:07] <ByteTripper> the drive that has the nvidia driver
[16:09] <holstein> ByteTripper: ok.. the hard drive in the machine is trying to be accessed by a live CD? correct? and something says "sorry, you cannont access this drive, for it is busy".. what is stating to you "the drive is busy". is it a file manager? is it the live OS? at boot? when? and what *exactly* is the message?
[16:10] <ByteTripper> the drive that i installed xubuntu on
[16:10] <ByteTripper> that is not booting
[16:10] <ByteTripper> ima just reinstall xubuntu
[16:10] <ByteTripper> and disable swap
[16:10] <ByteTripper> no need for it when i have 8gb of ram...
[16:11] <holstein> ByteTripper: the drive doest say anything, friend.. its just sitting there.. and you boot up a live CD. and you try and access the drive with something? and you get an error? what are you using?
[16:11] <ByteTripper> it does.
[16:11] <ByteTripper> when I go to access it it says it's busy
[16:12] <ByteTripper> i'm just going to reinstall it
[16:12] <holstein> ByteTripper: what are you using to access it?
[16:12] <holstein> ByteTripper: the file manager?
[16:12] <ByteTripper> shows up on thedesktop
[16:12] <holstein> ByteTripper: it?
[16:13] <holstein> ByteTripper: the drive shows up on the desktop?
[16:13] <ByteTripper> the drive
[16:13] <holstein> and you "click" on "it" and "it" says "it" is busy?
[16:13] <ByteTripper> yes
[16:13] <holstein> ByteTripper: take that sentence ^^ and replace *all* of the "its"
[16:13] <ByteTripper> ..
[16:13] <ByteTripper> >.>
[16:14] <holstein> ByteTripper: otherwise, wait patiently for another volunteer.. i need details
[16:15] <ByteTripper> it says its busy
[16:15] <ByteTripper>  and i hate this laptops keyboard
[16:16] <holstein> ByteTripper: i dont know what *is* is
[16:16] <holstein> it*
[16:17] <holstein> ByteTripper: you say "it" says the drive is busy.. and i dont know what *is* is
[16:17] <ByteTripper> the drive.
[16:17] <ByteTripper> that hasa the bad
[16:17] <holstein> right.. and what is saying its busy?
[16:17] <ByteTripper> xubuntu install
[16:17] <ByteTripper> yrd
[16:17] <ByteTripper> I can't access it or try to remount it
[16:17] <holstein> ByteTripper: and? when you remount it?
[16:17] <holstein> what are you using?
[16:17] <ByteTripper> im just clicking on it on the desktop
[16:18] <holstein> ByteTripper: ok.. try opening a file manager
[16:18] <holstein> !mount
[16:18] <holstein> ^^ and using the terminal
[16:18] <ByteTripper> yea i know.
[16:18] <ByteTripper> >.>
[16:18] <holstein> ByteTripper: so, you tried that?
[16:18] <ByteTripper> yes
[16:18] <ByteTripper> mount sdc /hdd
[16:18] <holstein> ok.. include that in the sentence then.. and try conveying what you have tried to me
[16:18] <ByteTripper> mount /dev/sdc /hdd*
[16:18] <holstein> !enter
[16:18] <holstein> !details
[16:19] <ByteTripper> i AM givin detqils but this keyboqerd is horid
[16:19] <holstein> !volunteers > ByteTripper
[16:19] <knome> ByteTripper, first things first: calm down and the message will reach us.
[16:19] <ByteTripper> i am calm
[16:19] <ByteTripper> this keyboard is reched.
[16:21] <ByteTripper> ima reinstall xubuntu
[16:21] <ByteTripper> then the nvidia driver and see if it reboots befre i update.
[16:22] <holstein> ByteTripper: good luck! i think that is ideal
[16:22] <ByteTripper> il be back under xubu ntu
[16:22] <ByteTripper> instead of win 8
[16:24] <ByteTripper> holstein: xubuntu is the best alternative to ubuntu
[16:24] <ByteTripper> No Unity.
[16:25] <holstein> ByteTripper: xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[16:25] <ByteTripper> I know it is at heart, but other then that it's not remotely like the newest editions of ubuntu
[16:25] <holstein> no one has to use unity.. i dont.. but you never know what volunteer here might be a part of the excellent team that is responsible for creating and developing unity
[16:25] <ByteTripper> No built in ads, no unity, and full user controll
[16:26] <ByteTripper> holstein: Unity would be nice, on the bottom of the screen...
[16:26] <ByteTripper> Not constantly popping out of the side when my mouse gets close to it
[16:26] <holstein> "nicer" is a matter of opinion.. i just dont prefer it, so i dont use it
[16:27] <ByteTripper> there was a app wrote to move it to the bottom of the screen...
[16:27] <ByteTripper> others to remove it
[16:27] <ByteTripper> It'd be nice if it wasen't intrucive. That's why I've loved xubuntu so far.
[16:27] <holstein> ByteTripper: please feel free and share your opinions about it in the #xubuntu-offtopic channel.. or any of the offtopic channels
[16:27] <ByteTripper> Simplicity of Ubuntu with a great user experience :P
[16:27] <ByteTripper> THere's a offtopic channel?
[16:27] <ByteTripper> Ok
[16:37] <Xyverz> are the alpha versions of xubuntu 13.10 using mir?
[16:46] <holstein> !13.10 > Xyverz
[16:52] <Bladrim> :O
[16:57] <ByteTripper> holstein:
[16:58] <ByteTripper> I am currently in xubuntu installing it.
[16:58] <ByteTripper> Gotta wait for that to finish up
[17:11] <Xyverz> holstein: thanks, but that doesn't answer the question.
[17:11] <ByteTripper> holstein, it'd be better to talk here...
[17:11] <holstein> Xyverz: the question should be asked in #ubuntu+1 ..13.10 support and question are for that channel
[17:11] <holstein> there is no "support" for 13.10 AFAIK.. its not released
[17:12] <knome> no, not yet
[17:12] <Xyverz> holstein: dude. it was not a support question. I asked out of curiosity. If you had told me to ask elsewhere from the beginning, I would not have responded as I did. Or even better yet, a simple, "I'm not really sure" would have been awesome.
[17:12] <Xyverz> anyway....
[17:12] <knome> XyverzAFK, please don't use awaynicks. thanks
[17:13] <ByteTripper> holstein, !
[17:13] <ByteTripper> I'm under xubuntu
[17:13] <ByteTripper> I'm looking for the nvidia driver right now
[17:14] <holstein> !nvidia | ByteTripper this is what i refer to
[17:15] <Xyverz> nice. I step away for 30 seconds and ...
[17:15] <Xyverz> nvm.
[17:15] <ByteTripper> Xyverz, AFK nicks are Taboo
[17:16] <ByteTripper> holstein, not helpful :|
[17:16] <ByteTripper> I can't find the settings panel
[17:16] <holstein> ByteTripper: if you dont have the driver installed, you wont have it
[17:16] <ByteTripper> holstein, I read the link you gave me
[17:17] <flux242> what the hell are afk nicks?
[17:17] <knome> flux242, please watch the language.
[17:17] <ByteTripper> it symbolizes that you're AFK
[17:17] <ByteTripper> knome, he didn't use inappropraite langugage O_O
[17:17] <knome> also, if you must, you can discuss that on -offtopic
[17:18] <ByteTripper> Can someone help me find the drivers section
[17:18] <ByteTripper> in settings
[17:19] <knome> ByteTripper, it's under "software & updates" on the newer versions, in the tab "additional drivers"
[17:19] <holstein> ByteTripper: i have "nvidia-settings" .. i can run it from a terminal if i cant find it
[17:19] <knome> holstein, that only controls nvidias drivers/settings, not driver installation
[17:20] <holstein> knome: im not sure if thats not what ByteTripper is asking..
[17:20] <knome> if he's not, then he must try to elaborate
[17:20] <ByteTripper> knome, you pointed me in the right direction
[17:20] <ByteTripper> Thank you.
[17:21] <ByteTripper> I'm going to blacklist the nouveau driver.
[17:21] <ByteTripper> It's installing the geforce one that's tested
[17:21] <holstein> ByteTripper: i would do nothing more than one the guide says to do. i did no manual blacklisting
[17:21] <knome> manual blacklisting is not usually needed, but each to their own
[17:22] <ByteTripper> Last time it "automatically blacklisted", I ended with a nonbooting system.
[17:23] <ByteTripper> It's blacklisted and the driver is installing.
[17:24] <holstein> ByteTripper: i dont think we can assume knowing what caused your issue. .you mentioned manually disabling swap as well
[17:24] <ByteTripper> I'm disabling swap as well in a second
[17:24] <ByteTripper> Busy with videodrivers
[17:37] <ByteTripper> holstein: !
[17:37] <ByteTripper> System hanging again
[17:38] <holstein> ByteTripper: purge the driver, and dont use it, would be my suggestion
[17:38] <holstein> ByteTripper: assuming, again you cannot get in to the system in any way
[17:38] <ByteTripper> Adding 837220k swap on /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-swap_1.
[17:38] <ByteTripper> Priority:-1 extents:1 accross:8372220k
[17:39] <ByteTripper> The thing is without the driver the display is blury.
[17:39] <ByteTripper> :|
[17:39] <ByteTripper> and this doesn't appear to relate to the driver
[17:39] <holstein> ByteTripper: i would do as simple of an install as possible. for troubleshooting purposes.. i would also, at this point, test the hard drive
[17:40] <ByteTripper> The HDD is fine
[17:40] <ByteTripper> Debian installs fine, Arch installs fine, Windows installs fine
[17:40] <ByteTripper> This crash is only affecting xubuntu
[17:40] <ByteTripper> There's no information on it.
[17:40] <holstein> a os installing doest indicate the health of a hard drive
[17:40] <ByteTripper> it appears to be adding 8gb of swap.
[17:41] <poisoned_dragon> jinkies... that's a lot of swap
[17:41] <ByteTripper> but I used sudo swapoff -a
[17:41] <flux242> will 13.10 include xfce 4.12?
[17:41] <holstein> flux242: please ask about 13.10 in #ubuntu+1
[17:41] <poisoned_dragon> is your xubuntu 64bit?
[17:41] <ByteTripper> yes
[17:42] <flux242> holstein: why? I'm asking about xubuntu
[17:42] <holstein> !13.10
[17:43] <flux242> ubuntu has nothing to do with xfce
[17:43] <holstein> flux242: im not trying to be combative.. if you have a question about 13.10, please visit the appropriate channel.. #ubuntu+1 ..thanks
[17:44] <ByteTripper> holstein: I think he means 13.10 xubuntu...
[17:44] <ByteTripper> poisoned_dragon: do you know why i might be crashing
[17:45] <flux242> what questions are appropriate here then??
[17:45] <holstein> flux242: something like http://xubuntu.org/news/looking-towards-xubuntu-13-10/ might help you find the correct soucre.. the repos are hot, so you can alwyas just browse them, or try a live CD.. see the /topic for guidelines
[17:45] <ByteTripper> holstein:
[17:45] <poisoned_dragon> flux242, xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce.
[17:46] <ByteTripper> Right after "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done."
[17:46] <poisoned_dragon> no, sorry ByteTripper
[17:46] <flux242> poisoned_dragon: reall???
[17:46] <ByteTripper> The crash happens
[17:46] <flux242> no way!!!
[17:46] <poisoned_dragon> if you knew, why you act so derp?
[17:46]  * ByteTripper facepalms
[17:46] <ByteTripper> he's being sarcastic.
[17:46] <flux242> pls tell me am I talking to bots here?
[17:46] <poisoned_dragon> I know he is
[17:46] <ByteTripper> eh
[17:47] <ByteTripper> I love xubuntu, but the crashing and burning
[17:47] <ByteTripper> :|
[17:47] <holstein> ubottu is a bot flux242
[17:47] <poisoned_dragon> but his timing stinks
[17:47] <ByteTripper> ubottu:
[17:47] <Sysi> I'm just a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent
[17:47] <ByteTripper> I'm just a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent
[17:47] <flux242> i knew it
[17:48] <ByteTripper> So no one has any idea why my system is crashing when ti appears to make a 8gb swap
[17:48] <poisoned_dragon> I'm just aggravating flux242, please don't think of me as noble.
[17:48] <holstein> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=raring&section=all&arch=any&keywords=xfce4&searchon=names might be what you are looking for flux242 , but 13.10 is OT here
[17:49] <flux242> why 13.10 is ot here? There won't be a xubuntu 13.10?
[17:49] <bazhang> flux242, all versions are in #ubuntu+1   (13.10)
[17:49] <holstein> flux242: 13.10 is not out yet, so its not supported offically here..
[17:50] <bazhang> kubuntu, xubuntu lubuntu etc
[17:51] <poisoned_dragon> what don't you get flux242? this room is only for 13.04 support
[17:52] <poisoned_dragon> 13.10 isn't released yet. when it is, it'll be supported here
[17:57] <ByteTripper> who was that xy guy
[17:57] <ByteTripper> xyzvar?
[17:57] <poisoned_dragon> i dunno
[17:57] <ByteTripper> knome: does
[17:57] <ByteTripper> I'm going to be putting debian on my desktop.
[17:57] <ByteTripper> :|
[17:58] <knome> poisoned_dragon, stop provoking anybody.
[17:58] <poisoned_dragon> I provoke noone
[17:58] <ByteTripper>  knome he's not provoking.
[17:58] <knome> flux242, unreleased versions aren't supported in this channel, #ubuntu+1 is for that
[17:59] <knome> poisoned_dragon, "i'm just aggravating"...
[17:59] <poisoned_dragon> since i'm behind, when does the crash happen, ByteTripper?
[17:59] <ByteTripper> it happens when the swap is made.
[17:59] <ByteTripper> but I disabled the swap file.
[18:00] <ByteTripper> Is there a kernel flag I can set to make sure it doesn't try and setup swap
[18:00] <holstein> ByteTripper: i would troubleshoot that seperate from the nvidia install, before installing the driver, to make sure you are zeroing in on the correct issue
[18:00] <holstein> !swap | ByteTripper might help
[18:00] <ByteTripper> holstein: it crash's right at the swap
[18:01] <holstein> ByteTripper: sure, and im saying, it should crash before the nvidia drive got installed, so troubleshoot it then, before you lock yourself out of the system
[18:01] <holstein> nvidia driver*
[18:01] <poisoned_dragon> that's just honest, knome. I never said it was intentional.
[18:01] <poisoned_dragon> Did you permanently disable swap?
[18:01] <ByteTripper> holstein: the nvidia driver isn't getitng loaded as it hangs before :|
[18:01] <ByteTripper> poisoned_dragon: swapoff -a
[18:02] <holstein> ByteTripper: sure.. so dont even install it til you get the issue you are talking about sorted out
[18:02] <ByteTripper> holstein: with or without the nvidia driver it crash's
[18:02] <poisoned_dragon> the easiest way to permanently disable sway is to unmount it with gparted and delete the swap partition.
[18:02] <holstein> ByteTripper: i understand that, but you are stating now that you cant get in to do anything.. before the nvidia install, you can
[18:02] <ByteTripper> So there's no kernel flag to stop it fron trying toget it to not use wap
[18:03] <holstein> ByteTripper: that link i gave should have all the information about swap that you should need
[18:03] <ByteTripper> holstein: it doesn't.
[18:03] <holstein> ByteTripper: what are you looking for specifically? that is not there?
[18:03] <ByteTripper> kernel flag.
[18:04] <poisoned_dragon> Hmm... does it work fine in live cd session?
[18:04] <ByteTripper> ye
[18:05] <poisoned_dragon> use the live cd session to run gparted and remove the swap partition all together. no need for a kernel flag because there will be no partition to automount.
[18:05] <holstein> does adding "noswap" in grub work for you ByteTripper ?
[18:16] <poisoned_dragon> i guess he fixed it
[18:20] <ByteTripper> i'm installing debian with xfce.
[18:20] <ByteTripper> :|
[18:20] <flux242> ByteTripper: that's OT, that's OT, go away. Just kidding
[18:20] <poisoned_dragon> lol
[18:21] <ByteTripper> flux242: eh
[18:21] <ByteTripper> xubuntu crashed too much.
[18:21] <poisoned_dragon> sorry you couldn't get xubuntu running, ByteTripper
[18:21] <ByteTripper> poisoned_dragon: I'm running on a all intel system right now
[18:21] <ByteTripper> while my amd box installs debian
[18:22] <ByteTripper> Intel videodrivers are great under Linux apparantly
[18:22] <ByteTripper> So this might end up xubuntu
[18:22] <poisoned_dragon> AMD can be a fickle  graphics chip to setup for.
[18:23] <poisoned_dragon> um, wait... I thought you said the crashing was with nvidia drivers?
[18:23] <ByteTripper> it is
[18:23] <ByteTripper> the CPU is amd.
[18:23] <ByteTripper> Yes it's a unholy mix...
[18:23] <poisoned_dragon> what's nvidia then?
[18:23] <ByteTripper> videocard
[19:36] <jotun> hi, i got a problem with flash, i suppose, but maybe something else is causing the problem and its not flash itself.
[19:36] <blackbit> anyone here is seeding xubuntu? I was wondering if I am the only one experiencing low upload bandwitdh with it (I also seed CentOS and he seem to max out my upload rather easily instead)
[19:38] <jotun> the colors  are falsified, and the whole flash element is pressed together on the left side
[19:39] <Unit193> jotun: Try xdpyinfo | grep root  and tell me the "depth of root window:"
[19:39] <holstein> blackbit: i would expect your bandwidth to be related to your internet connection
[19:39] <jotun> depth of root window:    15 planes
[19:39] <blackbit> as I said, other torrents mostly max out my upload... do you seed xubuntu?
[19:41] <Unit193> jotun: So you have an intel integrated card, older one.  You have 3 options, force 24bit, use PPAPI/Pepper flash, or ignore it.
[19:42] <jotun> what is PPAPI/Pepper?
[19:42] <poisoned_dragon> the api interface that flash now uses in chrome
[19:42] <holstein> blackbit: what are you proposing? its the iso? or something specifically relating to the data? could it just be that no one is downloading the iso right now?
[19:43] <Unit193> jotun: Chrome flash, works in chromium too though.
[19:43] <poisoned_dragon> firefox won't support it because of the api's proprietary nature.
[19:43] <Unit193> poisoned_dragon: Not exactly.
[19:43] <jotun> and firefox and opera will not work with it?
[19:43] <poisoned_dragon> if you install the plugin manually, it works in chromium.
[19:43] <poisoned_dragon> well, you elaborate Unit193 :)
[19:44] <jotun> when i used Xubuntu 12.04 i had no such problems...
[19:44] <poisoned_dragon> firefox and opera only support the external plugin
[19:44] <blackbit> holstein, I was just wondering if I am having problems with the client not finding other peers or if the torrent is already way too much seeded ;)
[19:45] <Unit193> jotun: That's because you used UXA with 24 bit.
[19:45] <jotun> k
[19:45] <Unit193> (Related to option 1.)
[19:45] <jotun> how do i do that?
[19:45] <jotun> thx alot by the wa, you two!
[19:46] <Unit193> See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1173649, create /etc/X11/xorg.conf and put http://paste.openstack.org/show/39776/ in it.
[19:53] <jotun> do i need to restart mycomputer? or is there a way to load xorg.conf manually?
[19:55] <Unit193> sudo service lightdm restart, but that'll kill your GUI session.
[19:56] <jotun> ok, thanks a lot!
[21:09] <dunpeal> Hi. How do I setup the DNS server for a particular network interface?
[22:36] <nantou> does xubuntu 13.04 support usb3.0?
[22:36] <nantou> via express card port? a usb3.0 to expresscard adaptor
[22:45] <trasp> Okay, so I installed a fresh install of xubuntu 13.04 a couple of days ago after being afk for about six months and my xfce-session crashes all the time. It was a bit annoying at first when it could seemingly random just crash after some time, but now (after not changing anything really) it crashes _all the time_. Right now I don't even close the applications started with the session because it will probably crash, and probably if I s
[22:45] <trasp> tart some other app as well. Is this a known problem, and is there any known solution?
[22:50] <Guest15333> Hey got a question about the dock at the bottom of ubuntu studio 13.04
[22:51] <Guest15333> Hello?
[22:52] <krytarik> !details | Guest15333
[22:54] <Guest15333> ok i have an AMD64 turion running ubuntu studio 13.04 realtime kernal...i and trying to find a way to edit the dock at the botom of the screen in ubuntu studio 13.04...is there an app or wiget to do so?
[22:54] <trasp> Google finally became my friend, I killed the screensaver-daemon and now it hasn't crashed for a couple of minutes even though I've started applications
[22:55] <Guest15333> i would like it to perfom more like OSX version and not keep loading the top of my screen with tabs
[22:57] <Guest15333> any one familiar?
[22:58] <krytarik> Guest15333: Please see here: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/preferences
[22:58] <Guest15333> k
[22:58] <Guest15333> thank you
[22:59] <krytarik> Guest15333: But you'll rather need to install something that actually acts like a dock, not like a usual panel.
[22:59] <Guest15333> hmmm...
[22:59] <Guest15333> how would i do that specific program?
[23:01] <Guest15333> DOcky?
[23:01] <krytarik> Well, there are quite a couple of options for docks out there, you might start with Cairo-Dock, it's most like the OSX dock, I think.
[23:02] <krytarik> Docky, I personally don't like that much though.
[23:04] <Guest15333> ok ill give it a shot thank you
[23:04] <krytarik> Welcome.
[23:04] <ochosi> or plank
[23:04] <ochosi> it's more lightweight
[23:04] <Guest15333> plank
[23:04] <Guest15333> hmmm
[23:04] <ochosi> (than most others, and less features)
[23:04] <Guest15333> looking for them now
[23:05] <kekilio> somebody know how to find my network manager in ubuntu 13.04? i want to change it, but i don't know what it is.
[23:06] <kekilio> sorry, it is xubuntu 13.04
[23:07] <SonikkuAmerica> kekilio: It's either an up and a down arrow next to each other (Ethernet) or an emission wave (Wi-FI)
[23:08] <kekilio> thank you! do you know how can i desinstal it? i am new in xubuntu
[23:10] <ochosi> should be the package network-manager
[23:11] <kekilio> yep, than you again, i got it!