| yofel | worth a try indeed, lets see what happens | 00:14 |
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| yofel | kde4libs - 4:4.10.90+git20130709-0~519~saucy1 | 00:31 |
| yofel | yay | 00:31 |
| yofel | apachelogger: I'll leave designing a sane version number to you https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/+recipe/kubuntu-kdelibs-stable | 00:32 |
| ScottK | yofel: What's the -0~519? | 00:40 |
| yofel | -0~{revno:packaging} | 00:41 |
| ScottK | For the stable builds, can we do release number instead of name? | 00:42 |
| yofel | no, ~<release>1 is appende by launchpad | 00:42 |
| yofel | I filed a bug for that like half a year ago | 00:43 |
| yofel | it's 'Low' | 00:43 |
| ScottK | OK. | 00:43 |
| ScottK | Low means send patches or wait for the heat death of the Universe. | 00:43 |
| yofel | well, in this case patches or until we actually reach u-series | 00:43 |
| yofel | not too far away | 00:44 |
| * yofel is off to bed - good night | 01:16 | |
| smartboyhw | Good night yofel | 01:19 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Re the firefox-en thing, installing kubuntu-desktop in a clean chroot doesn't pull it in, so likely the language thing. | 02:10 |
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| ahoneybun | hey manchicken | 02:59 |
| manchicken | ahoneybun: Hiya | 02:59 |
| ahoneybun | did you get to test moindump? | 02:59 |
| manchicken | ahoneybun: Sorry, for some silly reason I thought you were doing that :) | 03:00 |
| manchicken | I'll try now | 03:00 |
| ahoneybun | reason I don't is I was confused with the thing | 03:01 |
| ahoneybun | sorry :) | 03:01 |
| manchicken | No worries :) | 03:02 |
| ahoneybun | yea I was just wondering | 03:04 |
| ahoneybun | if Ubuntu is moving to qml and Qt what does that mean for all the GtK/GNOME apps? | 03:05 |
| manchicken | I can't do this, I think it has to be done from the machine on which MoinMoin is installed. | 03:06 |
| manchicken | ahoneybun: I've heard a lot of people ask that question. | 03:06 |
| ahoneybun | I think that it will just be like how qt covers over gtk apps in KDE | 03:07 |
| manchicken | Yeah | 03:07 |
| manchicken | It'll finally be a reciprocal arrangement. | 03:07 |
| manchicken | Could result in *shock!* standards. | 03:07 |
| manchicken | Or at least conventions. | 03:08 |
| ahoneybun | that is one of the reasons I did not like Ubuntu Unity, no standards mix of GTK, Qt, and Nix? | 03:11 |
| shrini | hello all | 05:20 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Released the qt4-x11 revert to raring-updates. | 05:53 |
| soee | good morning | 06:10 |
| smartboyhw | soee, hey. Again, how's 4.10.5 in raring? | 06:11 |
| smartboyhw | ScottK, ^ | 06:11 |
| soee | smartboyhw, smooth :) | 06:11 |
| ScottK | Quintasan or yofel have been working on that. | 06:11 |
| smartboyhw | ScottK, ooh | 06:11 |
| soee | smartboyhw, do you have expirience with multiple distros on one PC ? | 06:12 |
| ScottK | I'll approve it once it's uploaded. | 06:12 |
| smartboyhw | soee, no. | 06:12 |
| apachelogger | yofel, ScottK: 4:$UPSTREAM+git$DATE+bzr$REV~$SERIES$PACKAGINGREV I'd say | 07:16 |
| yofel | apachelogger: ~$SERIES$PACKAGINGREV isn't doable though (even if I very much like the idea) | 08:24 |
| yofel | apachelogger: +pkg{rev} or +kubuntu{rev} ? | 08:26 |
| apachelogger | why is it not doable? | 08:26 |
| yofel | there is no template for SERIES | 08:27 |
| yofel | the ~foo1 part isn't editable | 08:27 |
| apachelogger | oh | 08:27 |
| apachelogger | so it is always 1? | 08:27 |
| yofel | yes | 08:27 |
| apachelogger | quite the letdown | 08:27 |
| apachelogger | yofel: ~pkg{rev}+series1 then | 08:28 |
| apachelogger | or is that always ~series1? | 08:28 |
| yofel | ~series1 | 08:28 |
| * apachelogger should get more coffee before talking about weird launchpad stuff | 08:28 | |
| yofel | or +r{revno}+bzr{pkgrev} ? | 08:28 |
| apachelogger | IMO using bzr for the bzr import identifier of the source makes more sense | 08:29 |
| apachelogger | wellll | 08:29 |
| yofel | er, really o.O? | 08:29 |
| yofel | well, ok | 08:30 |
| yofel | from a certain POV, yes it does | 08:30 |
| apachelogger | if you tell me that version as upstream I will at least be able to deduce that bzr was involved :P | 08:30 |
| apachelogger | 4:$UPSTREAM+git$DATE+bzr$REV+pkg$PKGREV~SERIES | 08:31 |
| yofel | ack | 08:31 |
| apachelogger | new upstream will trigger upgrade, new day will trigger upgrade, new import will trigger upgrade, new packaging will trigger update | 08:31 |
| apachelogger | should be all fine | 08:32 |
| apachelogger | exceedingling long but sufficient layers of version sizing ^^ | 08:32 |
| yofel | # bzr-builder format 0.3 deb-version 4:{debupstream}+git{date}+bzr{revno}+pkg{revno:packaging} | 08:34 |
| apachelogger | Could NOT find JPEG (missing: JPEG_LIBRARY JPEG_INCLUDE_DIR) | 08:34 |
| apachelogger | awww | 08:34 |
| apachelogger | yofel: looks good | 08:34 |
| yofel | neeext | 08:34 |
| yofel | where to put the imports? (here I could actually be convinced that projects would be the sensible way to go) | 08:35 |
| apachelogger | same as with neon, roll a dice :P | 08:36 |
| apachelogger | either many projects ~kubuntu-packager/kde-workspace/master (allowing for more than one branch to be imported) | 08:36 |
| apachelogger | or one project with many branches ~kubuntu-packager/kde-git-imports/kde-workspace (forcing other branches of the same repo to have some suffix or something e.g. kde-workspace.master and kde-workspace.framework-scratch) | 08:37 |
| yofel | then I would rather do the projects thing. And maybe me and shadeslayer_ can clean up neon next week if there's spare time | 08:38 |
| apachelogger | right | 08:38 |
| apachelogger | oh | 08:38 |
| apachelogger | there is one case that could be made for a single project | 08:39 |
| apachelogger | you can easily iterate everything | 08:39 |
| apachelogger | iff all imports are there | 08:39 |
| apachelogger | which is probably hard to get done seeing as a lot of stuff is imported all over the place on lunchpad | 08:39 |
| yofel | right | 08:39 |
| yofel | (latter I mean) | 08:39 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, how's 4.10.5 -> raring-proposed? ScottK said you or Quintasan are doing the work:) | 08:40 |
| apachelogger | -- The following REQUIRED packages have not been found: | 08:41 |
| apachelogger | -.- | 08:41 |
| apachelogger | and of course it's a qt library :@ | 08:41 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: not done, somtime today | 08:41 |
| smartboyhw | :@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ | 08:41 |
| markey | apachelogger: should I check for OpenGL or QtOpenGL? | 08:41 |
| apachelogger | markey: that depends on whether you do native paintaing using opengl ... at the very least you'll need qtopengl though | 08:42 |
| markey | apachelogger: well I reckon QtOpenGL depends on OpenGL | 08:42 |
| markey | so that should suffice? | 08:42 |
| apachelogger | markey: qtopengl can also use GLES | 08:42 |
| markey | I think we're compatible with ES | 08:43 |
| apachelogger | markey: do you have beginNativePainting in your code somewhere? | 08:43 |
| markey | nope | 08:43 |
| apachelogger | then it doesn't matter anyway most likely | 08:43 |
| apachelogger | simply check for qtopengl | 08:43 |
| markey | ok | 08:43 |
| apachelogger | (either that or you are not telling Qt that you are about to do native gl painting :P) | 08:43 |
| apachelogger | hm | 08:46 |
| apachelogger | yofel: you don't have qimageblitz in neon? | 08:46 |
| yofel | we do, that's *still* in kdesupport | 08:46 |
| yofel | you need that for the oxygen-icons anyway | 08:47 |
| apachelogger | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah | 08:47 |
| apachelogger | dunno why cmake talks about sourceforge then -.- | 08:47 |
| apachelogger | 844.1 MiB (41.22%) of 2.0 GiB | 08:48 |
| apachelogger | I am reasonable certain oxygen will eat all of that :O | 08:48 |
| yofel | no, that's like 250M source + some 30M binary | 08:49 |
| apachelogger | we'll see :P | 08:50 |
| * apachelogger is in a very vim mood | 08:52 | |
| yofel | considering we've got the namespacing worked out you can just move it to the main ppa if you run out of space | 08:52 |
| apachelogger | we'll see | 08:55 |
| apachelogger | or just request a size bump :O | 08:56 |
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| smartboyhw | ScottK, any time to approve an SRU for me? | 09:48 |
| ScottK | Not now. Need to get ready to leave for a $work meeting. | 09:49 |
| smartboyhw | ScottK, :( | 09:49 |
| afiestas_ | ScottK: thanks for your email with some "let's do it" feedback | 10:14 |
| afiestas_ | made my morning :) | 10:14 |
| ScottK | I think it was a bit less enthusiastic than that. | 10:29 |
| ScottK | I think it was more of "we could live with it". | 10:29 |
| smartboyhw | ScottK, finished $work meeting already? That quick? | 10:31 |
| markey | this QtScript crash bug was fixed in Qt 4.8.3, IIRC? | 10:31 |
| ScottK | No, still getting ready to go. | 10:31 |
| smartboyhw | ScottK, that's long:P | 10:31 |
| smartboyhw | ScottK, just to tell you: The bugs are Bug 1189083 and Bug 1189085. The patch (same) is attached to the two bugs | 10:32 |
| ubottu | bug 1189083 in ibus-cangjie (Ubuntu Raring) "Make "Preferences" button work in "IBus Preferences"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1189083 | 10:32 |
| ubottu | bug 1189085 in ibus-cangjie (Ubuntu Raring) "ibus-cangjie missing dependency gir1.2-ibus-1.0" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1189085 | 10:32 |
| smartboyhw | It's rather simple to review actually:P | 10:34 |
| yofel | TBH, some of the dependency update information for a new KDE SC release could be extracted from project-neon, as that was already updated there before beta1 is even tagged | 10:43 |
| yofel | except stuff that has daily builds there as well. E.g. SDO or akonadi | 10:43 |
| yofel | kde4libs - 4:4.10.90+git20130709+bzr92221+pkg519~saucy1 | 11:31 |
| yofel | looks reasonable | 11:31 |
| shadeslayer_ | whats that | 11:35 |
| yofel | shadeslayer_: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/+recipe/kubuntu-kdelibs-stable | 11:36 |
| shadeslayer_ | and that's being done why? | 11:37 |
| shadeslayer_ | did anyone test 4.10.90 for quantal apart from me? should I move it? | 11:37 |
| yofel | <ScottK> I'm thinking if we did that, maybe we could send a point release straight to proposed since we'd have tested it already. | 11:38 |
| yofel | <ScottK> So it would ~replace the updates PPA. | 11:38 |
| yofel | wrt. stable daily builds | 11:38 |
| shadeslayer_ | I see | 11:39 |
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| yofel | I just added https://trello.com/c/gj9wpF5W for that, still incomplete I think | 11:50 |
| apachelogger | yofel: do you have a neon policy on strict linking requirements? | 11:52 |
| apachelogger | e.g. linking against qtgui/qtcore requires libgl to be present, so anything builddeping qt needs to builddep libgl | 11:53 |
| apachelogger | I was thinking about a pseudo dev package... qt5-dev { depends: qt5, libgl1; files: null } | 11:54 |
| shadeslayer_ | doubt it | 11:54 |
| shadeslayer_ | Packaging for Neon 4 is very minimal | 11:54 |
| shadeslayer_ | so unless shlibs:Depends or misc:Depends automagically add that, no | 11:54 |
| yofel | apachelogger: there is project-neon-kdelibs-dev for that | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | ah | 11:55 |
| yofel | not sure what that wasn't qt | 11:55 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:55 |
| yofel | *why | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | well, in qt5 we need that for qt as well | 11:55 |
| yofel | then just move it there and make project-neon5-kdelibs-dev depend on it (or junk it) | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | yah | 11:56 |
| yofel | apachelogger: and no, there's no strict linking policy in neon (we use the defaults mostly) | 11:56 |
| yofel | if anything there might be a place or two where rpath is forced | 11:57 |
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| * apachelogger meows | 11:59 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: did you actually look into the zic thing? | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: nope, I did not commit to doing that | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | good | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | because I removed it from my todo after asking you | 12:00 |
| * apachelogger sighs | 12:00 | |
| shadeslayer_ | -.- | 12:00 |
| apachelogger | taring the kdesupport takes forever | 12:02 |
| * apachelogger surely forgot a dep again | 12:02 | |
| apachelogger | :S | 12:02 |
| yofel | can't you just fork what we have in neon4? | 12:03 |
| apachelogger | that's what I did I think | 12:04 |
| apachelogger | ECM is new though | 12:04 |
| yofel | ah | 12:04 |
| yofel | true | 12:04 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: bug 500936 :P | 12:19 |
| ubottu | bug 500936 in umbrello (Ubuntu) "umbrello: command "Align right" essentially aligns left" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500936 | 12:19 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: we like to keep our users on their toes :) | 12:22 |
| apachelogger | I see :P | 12:22 |
| apachelogger | support should be building now, going to attempt workspace again tomorrow | 13:25 |
| apachelogger | yofel, shadeslayer_: did anyone actually subscribe kubuntu-bugs to the new packages btw? | 13:37 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: hi | 13:41 |
| kubotu | 'afternoon apachelogger | 13:41 |
| apachelogger | yofel: kubotu's back | 13:41 |
| apachelogger | -> dinner | 13:41 |
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| smartboyhw | kubotu: help | 14:16 |
| kubotu | help topics: 10 core modules: auth, basics, config, filters, httputil, irclog, remote, unicode, userdata, wordlist; 57 plugins: alias, autoop, autorejoin, bans, bar, botsnack, chanserv, debug, dns, eightball, excuse, factoids, googlefight, greed, greet, hangman, host, identica, insult, iplookup, karma, keywords, lart, map, markov, modes, newpackage, nickrecover, nickserv, note, poll, q, quote, reaction, remind, ri, roshambo, | 14:16 |
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| smartboyhw | Yes! | 14:16 |
| smartboyhw | :P | 14:16 |
| agateau | Riddell: I think I fixed the icon issue in Ubiquity. Can't find a bug report for it. Do you know if there is one? | 14:39 |
| Riddell | agateau: no I don't think there is | 14:39 |
| agateau | Riddell: ok. Committing and filing merge request then | 14:40 |
| smartboyhw | ScottK, can you try to approve my SRUs a.s.a.p so I can test it tmr morning? | 14:58 |
| smartboyhw | It's Bug 1189083 and Bug 1189085. | 14:58 |
| ubottu | bug 1189083 in ibus-cangjie (Ubuntu Raring) "Make "Preferences" button work in "IBus Preferences"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1189083 | 14:58 |
| ubottu | bug 1189085 in ibus-cangjie (Ubuntu Raring) "ibus-cangjie missing dependency gir1.2-ibus-1.0" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1189085 | 14:58 |
| smartboyhw | I'm leaving for London soon | 14:58 |
| smartboyhw | So... | 14:58 |
| yofel | apachelogger: at least not me, will look in a bit | 15:44 |
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| Peace- | mm http://paste.ubuntu.com/5858978 | 17:12 |
| Peace- | that was a comment on my blog | 17:14 |
| Peace- | :S | 17:14 |
| yofel | :/ | 17:14 |
| Peace- | ah seen the paste :D | 17:14 |
| Peace- | it's not readable | 17:15 |
| yofel | rekonq at its best -.- | 17:15 |
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| Peace- | http://pastebin.com/hbZd15z1 | 17:16 |
| Peace- | well i personally did not get the point of this Installing a second browser as you say is no option in my case. I run a double boot and I am very concerned about using non native softwares on my Linux boot. | 17:17 |
| Peace- | i can't understand why he can not install the second browser | 17:17 |
| Peace- | mah | 17:17 |
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| Quintasan | Well, fuck this, I give up. | 20:58 |
| soee | KDE 4.11 RC1 tomorrow :) | 21:46 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1194501] [ 4.8 Linaro regression] ICE on gcc-4.8 building kde4libs @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1194501 (by Scott Kitterman) | 22:02 |
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