Nothing_Much | I'm having a bit of a hard time trying to get Mir to run because I can't install the xorg-video-abi-13 package for some reason | 08:01 |
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Nothing_Much | Anyone? | 08:07 |
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BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:55 |
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FernandoMiguel | any body else stuck in an older kernel? | 13:26 |
FernandoMiguel | I'm on 3.9.0-7, cause the only one that has proper CPU scheduler management | 13:26 |
FernandoMiguel | anyone can point me in the direction of debugging unity ? | 14:08 |
FernandoMiguel | a # or something ? | 14:08 |
FernandoMiguel | doing $ killall -9 unity-panel-service every few minutes, is no longer an option :( | 14:08 |
xjunior | Morning guys. Since yesterday I'm not being able to start X/XMir | 14:27 |
xjunior | it starts to initialize (I even see Mir's big arrow at the top-left corner) | 14:27 |
xjunior | Then crashes. Anybody having this issue? | 14:27 |
ikonia | have you got a bug logged ? | 14:28 |
ikonia | have you traced what packages have been changed ? | 14:28 |
xjunior | ikonia: I saw a bunch of changes in drivers before it started crashing | 14:28 |
xjunior | I upgrade the packages pretty much every day | 14:28 |
ikonia | "changes in drivers..." | 14:28 |
ikonia | what ??? | 14:28 |
ikonia | xjunior: 1.) work out what packages changed between working/not working | 14:28 |
xjunior | like intel driver | 14:28 |
ikonia | xjunior: 2.) log bug with detail | 14:29 |
xjunior | ikonia: is there a way to know which packages changed yesterday afternoon? | 14:30 |
ikonia | check the logs - pay attention ?? you're supposed to be testing this...not just watching | 14:30 |
FernandoMiguel | in which release cycle did we start having all these packages in -proposed ? | 15:18 |
FernandoMiguel | I know for sure everything used to go to main | 15:18 |
Pici | 'these packages' ? | 15:18 |
FernandoMiguel | Pici: so many of them | 15:18 |
FernandoMiguel | that repo used to be empty till final release | 15:19 |
Pici | I think they started to put stuff in there that would have more of an impact on system stability started to come out. | 15:20 |
FernandoMiguel | Pici: maybe last cycle? | 15:20 |
Pici | I think it was before that. | 15:20 |
FernandoMiguel | okay | 15:21 |
FernandoMiguel | I can't put my finger on it | 15:21 |
FernandoMiguel | I just enabled it on mine | 15:21 |
FernandoMiguel | lets see if I can even boot after that :p | 15:21 |
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xjunior | ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1199399 | 15:28 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1199399 in Mir "System-Compositor-Testing PPA's Mir/XMir out of sync" [Undecided,New] | 15:28 |
SuperLag | I think it's libpixman. | 15:33 |
SuperLag | that's what is making X segfault here. | 15:33 |
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Nothing_Much | Does anybody know why I can't install xorg-video-abi-13? | 16:43 |
ikonia | have you looked at the error ? | 16:44 |
Nothing_Much | It won'd allow me to upgrade the Nouveau/Radeon/Intel driver for Mir | 16:45 |
ikonia | ok, so again "why" | 16:46 |
Nothing_Much | xorg-video-abi-13 doesn't have an installation candidate | 16:49 |
Nothing_Much | But I can't seem to get Mir to work properly without the nouveau driver | 16:53 |
holstein | Nothing_Much: i heard only the open drives work with it | 16:54 |
holstein | drivers* | 16:54 |
holstein | Nothing_Much: MIR literally just came out.. i wouldnt expect much in the way of featuers or support | 16:55 |
Nothing_Much | Well, I was just expecting it to pick the correct driver instead of the VMware one, and I did remove the nvidia driver and the xorg.conf | 16:55 |
holstein | Nothing_Much: right.. i would adjust your expectations.. since its *quite* early days | 16:56 |
ikonia | Nothing_Much: ok - so it doesn't have an installation candidate meaing that package is either a.) not valid in your cache, b.) not valid in the repo | 16:57 |
ikonia | Nothing_Much: so 1.) apt-get update to make sure your cache is current 2.) try again | 16:57 |
ikonia | Nothing_Much: it's possible that the package just doesn't exist at the moment | 16:57 |
Nothing_Much | It looks like it's in 12.10, but not 13.04 | 16:58 |
ikonia | ok, so there you go | 16:58 |
Nothing_Much | or 13.10 | 16:59 |
ikonia | there you go again then... | 16:59 |
ikonia | you have the answer why there is no candidate available | 16:59 |
Nothing_Much | It's nonexistant, but I read the wiki on how to install pre-built packages on a PC | 17:02 |
Nothing_Much | Oh, there's updates | 17:02 |
Nothing_Much | I'll brb | 17:02 |
Nothing_Much | Oh wow, it installed :D | 17:12 |
genii | My touchpad stopped working after latest updates. The buttons still work, just not the pad. Still works under 13.04 | 18:20 |
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kanliot | how do i see if MIR is running? | 21:22 |
holstein | ps aux ? | 21:23 |
holstein | i heard there were 2 cursors showing in MIR right now... that might be an indicator | 21:23 |
kanliot | :( | 21:24 |
holstein | ? | 21:24 |
holstein | if you dont want a frowny face, dont use MIR right now.. its quite new | 21:24 |
kanliot | i didn't come here for a lecture | 21:25 |
kanliot | :( | 21:25 |
kanliot | i was wondering if MIR was running in todays Lubuntu build | 21:25 |
kanliot | which seems to be a valid question | 21:25 |
holstein | i dont think mir is planned for lubuntu, corret? | 21:26 |
holstein | kanliot: im not questioning the validity, nor lecuturing.. nor tring to be combative.. im just saying, its new, so expect some "issues" for a while | 21:26 |
kanliot | you assume that my concerns aren't valid | 21:27 |
kanliot | even after i state them plainly | 21:27 |
kanliot | and i actually like you | 21:27 |
sporkeee | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/lubuntu-kubuntu-decide-against-mir-switch | 21:27 |
holstein | kanliot: actually, i dont.. i assure you, im assuming nothing.. and i like you too | 21:27 |
kanliot | seems like we've chatted before in #lubuntu or something | 21:28 |
holstein | ^^ that is what i heard, that lubuntu is not planning to use MIR | 21:28 |
yofel | kanliot: if you have mir running then you'll have an additional mouse icon in the top left corner. (Unlikely as MIR isn't in the archive yet) | 21:29 |
kanliot | yofel i thought the changes to x.org stack got pushed today. and TYVM for the answer. I do not see the mouse icon | 21:30 |
yofel | kanliot: you can also check for a 'unity-system-compositor' process, that would be mir | 21:31 |
maslen | Random question: If apt-get build-dep doesn't actually install all of the build dependencies, is that considered a flaw? | 21:56 |
maslen | Assuming that the missing packages are available through apt-get install | 21:56 |
jtaylor | yes | 22:01 |
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