[08:01] I'm having a bit of a hard time trying to get Mir to run because I can't install the xorg-video-abi-13 package for some reason [08:07] Anyone? === yofel_ is now known as yofel === kc8qvp_ is now known as kc8qvp === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia [11:55] Hi all === Jikan is now known as Jikai [13:26] any body else stuck in an older kernel? [13:26] I'm on 3.9.0-7, cause the only one that has proper CPU scheduler management [14:08] anyone can point me in the direction of debugging unity ? [14:08] a # or something ? [14:08] doing $ killall -9 unity-panel-service every few minutes, is no longer an option :( [14:27] Morning guys. Since yesterday I'm not being able to start X/XMir [14:27] it starts to initialize (I even see Mir's big arrow at the top-left corner) [14:27] Then crashes. Anybody having this issue? [14:28] have you got a bug logged ? [14:28] have you traced what packages have been changed ? [14:28] ikonia: I saw a bunch of changes in drivers before it started crashing [14:28] I upgrade the packages pretty much every day [14:28] "changes in drivers..." [14:28] what ??? [14:28] xjunior: 1.) work out what packages changed between working/not working [14:28] like intel driver [14:29] xjunior: 2.) log bug with detail [14:30] ikonia: is there a way to know which packages changed yesterday afternoon? [14:30] check the logs - pay attention ?? you're supposed to be testing this...not just watching [15:18] in which release cycle did we start having all these packages in -proposed ? [15:18] I know for sure everything used to go to main [15:18] 'these packages' ? [15:18] Pici: so many of them [15:19] that repo used to be empty till final release [15:20] I think they started to put stuff in there that would have more of an impact on system stability started to come out. [15:20] Pici: maybe last cycle? [15:20] I think it was before that. [15:21] okay [15:21] I can't put my finger on it [15:21] I just enabled it on mine [15:21] lets see if I can even boot after that :p === om26er_ is now known as om26er|dinner [15:28] ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1199399 [15:28] Launchpad bug 1199399 in Mir "System-Compositor-Testing PPA's Mir/XMir out of sync" [Undecided,New] [15:33] I think it's libpixman. [15:33] that's what is making X segfault here. === om26er|dinner is now known as om26er [16:43] Does anybody know why I can't install xorg-video-abi-13? [16:44] have you looked at the error ? [16:45] It won'd allow me to upgrade the Nouveau/Radeon/Intel driver for Mir [16:46] ok, so again "why" [16:49] xorg-video-abi-13 doesn't have an installation candidate [16:53] But I can't seem to get Mir to work properly without the nouveau driver [16:54] Nothing_Much: i heard only the open drives work with it [16:54] drivers* [16:55] Nothing_Much: MIR literally just came out.. i wouldnt expect much in the way of featuers or support [16:55] Well, I was just expecting it to pick the correct driver instead of the VMware one, and I did remove the nvidia driver and the xorg.conf [16:56] Nothing_Much: right.. i would adjust your expectations.. since its *quite* early days [16:57] Nothing_Much: ok - so it doesn't have an installation candidate meaing that package is either a.) not valid in your cache, b.) not valid in the repo [16:57] Nothing_Much: so 1.) apt-get update to make sure your cache is current 2.) try again [16:57] Nothing_Much: it's possible that the package just doesn't exist at the moment [16:58] It looks like it's in 12.10, but not 13.04 [16:58] ok, so there you go [16:59] or 13.10 [16:59] there you go again then... [16:59] you have the answer why there is no candidate available [17:02] It's nonexistant, but I read the wiki on how to install pre-built packages on a PC [17:02] Oh, there's updates [17:02] I'll brb [17:12] Oh wow, it installed :D [18:20] My touchpad stopped working after latest updates. The buttons still work, just not the pad. Still works under 13.04 === Jikai is now known as Jikan === TheDrums_ is now known as TheDrums === jayne_ is now known as jayne [21:22] how do i see if MIR is running? [21:23] ps aux ? [21:23] i heard there were 2 cursors showing in MIR right now... that might be an indicator [21:24] :( [21:24] ? [21:24] if you dont want a frowny face, dont use MIR right now.. its quite new [21:25] i didn't come here for a lecture [21:25] :( [21:25] i was wondering if MIR was running in todays Lubuntu build [21:25] which seems to be a valid question [21:26] i dont think mir is planned for lubuntu, corret? [21:26] kanliot: im not questioning the validity, nor lecuturing.. nor tring to be combative.. im just saying, its new, so expect some "issues" for a while [21:27] you assume that my concerns aren't valid [21:27] even after i state them plainly [21:27] and i actually like you [21:27] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/lubuntu-kubuntu-decide-against-mir-switch [21:27] kanliot: actually, i dont.. i assure you, im assuming nothing.. and i like you too [21:28] seems like we've chatted before in #lubuntu or something [21:28] ^^ that is what i heard, that lubuntu is not planning to use MIR [21:29] kanliot: if you have mir running then you'll have an additional mouse icon in the top left corner. (Unlikely as MIR isn't in the archive yet) [21:30] yofel i thought the changes to x.org stack got pushed today. and TYVM for the answer. I do not see the mouse icon [21:31] kanliot: you can also check for a 'unity-system-compositor' process, that would be mir [21:56] Random question: If apt-get build-dep doesn't actually install all of the build dependencies, is that considered a flaw? [21:56] Assuming that the missing packages are available through apt-get install [22:01] yes