[00:25] <xkernel> When creating a Touch app in the Qt Creator; do I have to type all the QML scripts or is there a way for GUI designing?
[00:31] <mhall119> xkernel: you have to type it out currently, I think the Qt Designer still isn't working for Qt5/QML
[00:46] <odraencode> One of these days I'm going to make a QML app :|
[00:46] <odraencode> Then I'll join the circlejerk of phone developers
[00:46] <odraencode> Maybe I should get a phone
[03:04] <jono> mhall119,  around?
[03:20] <mhall119> jono: about to head to sleep, got an early morning call tomorrow
[03:24] <jono> mhall119, np, we can chat tomorrow
[05:53] <ezu5t> Hello. Reading the page http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/02/releasing-the-ubuntu-touch-developer-preview-and-sdk-alpha/ and trying to determine what kind of tablet to get. from what I see, none of the supported ones have removable battery or a micro-sd slot.
[05:53] <ezu5t> i wish one of them did
[07:01] <adi_> HI
[07:06] <dommertnator> So whats going down
[07:26] <dholbach> good morning
[07:34] <Mirv> morning
[07:34] <Mirv> I'm proposing a change to the ubuntu-sdk meta package so that people get lots and lots of new documentation inside the Qt Creator Help function https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.saucy.add_documentation/+merge/173659
[07:34] <Mirv> qtdeclarative5-doc is still missing from saucy archives, so didn't add that yet
[07:35] <Mirv> (pending someone sponsoring https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/ubuntu/saucy/qtdeclarative-opensource-src/merge_continued/+merge/173448)
[08:14] <Mirv> saucy users? could you try out Qt Creator (~test12) from ppa:timo-jyrinki/qt5-testing - smoke-testing - the only interesting thing is you see some difference compared to the ~test10 in SDK Release PPA (you shouldn't)
[08:15] <Mirv> I'm hoping to get that or something very similar to saucy archives now finally
[08:19] <Mirv> I asked jppiiroinen to test it as well but he's needing a saucy reinstall first
[08:48] <JamesTait> Good morning all, happy Sugar Cookie Day! :-D
[10:37] <om26er> oSoMoN, can you +1 this please since gusch is on vacation. https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/gallery-app/fix_test_run_devices/+merge/173573
[10:37] <oSoMoN> om26er: looking
[10:44] <oSoMoN> om26er: this was already fixed and merged at revision 771 in lp:gallery-app
[10:46] <om26er> oSoMoN, ah,thanks. Its a bad day ;) I fixed test run for gallery and Chris already fixed it, I also add autopilot testing to address-book-app and seems ranato also propsed it :O
[10:46] <oSoMoN> :/
[12:50] <AskUbuntu> I'm having a difficulty in the application intalled menu | http://askubuntu.com/q/318140
[13:13] <kaleo> Laney, https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/crossfadeimage/+merge/170391 has a fix
[13:19] <Laney> kaleo: saw, will merge shortly
[13:20] <kaleo> Laney, cool
[13:44] <Laney> kaleo: ah, cunning, why didn't I think of that? :P
[13:44] <kaleo> Laney, there is another way that does not require an extra variable
[13:44] <kaleo> Laney, but it would have meant some deeper changes
[13:45] <kaleo> Laney, no time for that :)
[13:45] <Laney> heh, not sure I need to know ;-)
[13:45]  * Laney builds
[15:26] <kaleo> Laney, merged! thanks a lot
[15:26] <Laney> kaleo: woo! thank you for the reviews!
[17:31] <renato_> om26er, ping
[17:31] <om26er> renato_, pong
[17:31] <renato_> om26er, what is the problem with my branch :D
[17:32] <renato_> I like the make autpilot
[17:32] <om26er> renato_, def launch_app(self, movie_file=None):
[17:32] <om26er> +        if os.path.realpath(__file__).startswith("/usr/"):
[17:33] <om26er> renato_, we can go with as it is now and I'll fix those things in another merge proposal, if you want
[17:33] <renato_> and I like to be able to run the autopilot even if I have build the app in a diff directory
[17:33] <om26er> renato_, that makes running tests difficult for someone who is running the testsuite for the first time
[17:35] <renato_> om26er, I can use hardcode dir like you did "local_location = "../../src/imports/main.qml"" as a fall-back if the var was not found
[17:35] <om26er> renato_, yes would be simpler
[17:36] <renato_> om26er, why I need to do in a another merge proposal? why I can not fix mine?
[17:36] <om26er> renato_, sure you can ;)
[17:36] <renato_> ok
[17:52] <mihahn> Hi
[18:09] <mihahn> Hello :)
[18:11] <renato_> om26er, MR fixed
[18:11] <om26er> renato_, looking
[18:11] <mihahn> ?
[18:12] <mihahn> Guys what are the skills you should have when you wanna help tomorrow?
[18:16] <om26er> renato_, the copyright headers need to be 2013 other than that LGTM
[18:17] <om26er> mihahn, depends if you have knowledge of python you could help with writing tests, if you want to help in basic app development you need to know QML
[18:18] <AskUbuntu> Why Java is not there for development of ubuntu phone? | http://askubuntu.com/q/318240
[18:19] <mihahn> @om26er I have basic python skills, but not much more. Maybe I will just be spectating... but that's why I love Ubuntu - the community. To work together for updates and discussing here is so great!
[18:19] <mihahn> btw how to name ppl here in freenode? ^^
[18:21] <om26er> mihahn, see this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch
[18:22] <mihahn> Okay I know the site :)
[18:30] <AskUbuntu> development desktop in ubuntu 12.04 | http://askubuntu.com/q/318243
[18:32] <kaleo> mhall119, who wants to play with gradient backgrounds?
[18:32] <mhall119> kaleo: nik90 does, I'm sure
[18:33] <kaleo> mhall119, cool
[18:33] <kaleo> nik90, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5859216/
[18:34] <kaleo> mhall119, do you know what apps need it?
[18:34] <kaleo> mhall119, the clock app for sure
[18:35] <mhall119> kaleo: the clock and calendar are the only ones with final Suru-style designs
[18:35] <mhall119> sorry, Clock and Calculator
[18:35] <kaleo> mhall119, ok
[18:36] <kaleo> mhall119, I'm never able to find dalius
[18:36] <kaleo> :(
[18:36] <mhall119> Weather and Calendar *might* use it, but until we get the final visual designs we won't know
[18:36] <kaleo> mhall119, ok
[18:36] <nik90> kaleo: me me me :-)
[18:36] <mhall119> unfortunately dalius has stepped down from working on the Calculator, so we'll need to get someone else working on it
[18:37] <kaleo> mhall119, ok
[18:37] <kaleo> nik90, check out the link :)
[18:37] <nik90> kaleo: How do we get it to use a specific toolkit version?
[18:37] <kaleo> nik90, you can compile it yourself
[18:37] <kaleo> nik90, bzr branch thebranch && cd thebranch && qmake && make && source export_modules_dir.sh
[18:37] <kaleo> nik90, then launch your app
[18:37] <nik90> kaleo: how to revert the toolkit?
[18:38] <kaleo> nik90, or you can wait for launchpad to build an ubuntu package of the toolkit for which a link will appear in the merge request I sent you
[18:38] <kaleo> nik90, revert?
[18:39] <nik90> kaleo: when I do qmake and source export.. etc. I start using your toolkit branch essentially. How do I go back to the original version of teh toolkit?
[18:39] <kaleo> nik90, just close the terminal
[18:39] <kaleo> nik90, all other terminals will use the system toolkit
[18:39] <nik90> ah ok :) perfect. Will post screenshot when I finish :D
[18:39] <kaleo> nik90, cool
[18:44] <nik90> kaleo: I get an error while compiling. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5859250/
[18:45] <kaleo> nik90, you need to have installed all the packages listed at the beginning of debian/contrl
[18:45] <kaleo> nik90, debian/control
[18:45] <kaleo> nik90, you are missing qtdeclarative5-private-dev,
[18:45] <kaleo> -,
[18:45] <nik90> kaleo: will go through the list and install required packages
[18:55] <nik90> kaleo: I am stuck since when I try to install a package it is conflicting with the version of it already installed on my system. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5859281/
[18:55] <kaleo> nik90, do apt-cache policy libqt5v8-5-dev
[18:56] <nik90> kaleo: Installed: 5.0.2-3ubuntu1~raring1~test1 Candidate: 5.0.2-3ubuntu1~raring1~test1
[18:57] <nik90> no idea where the raring came up from. I am running saucy
[18:57] <nik90> I get similar error when trying to install qtdeclarative5-private-dev
[18:57] <nik90> the *-private-dev cannot be installed because of this
[18:58] <kaleo> nik90, policy tells you where it comes from
[18:59] <nik90> kaleo: It comes from saucy then based on output http://paste.ubuntu.com/5859289/
[18:59] <kaleo> nik90, and apt-cache policy libqt5v8-5-private-dev ?
[19:01] <nik90> kaleo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5859295/
[19:01] <nik90> ah I dont have that installed
[19:02] <kaleo> nik90, try the following
[19:02] <kaleo> nik90, sudo apt-get install libqt5v8-5-dev=5.0.2-3 libqt5v8-5-private-dev
[19:03] <nik90> kaleo: nope same situation http://paste.ubuntu.com/5859304/
[19:04] <nik90> if I install the package from your MP built by launchpad, will it automatically fix these dependency issues
[19:04] <kaleo> nik90, yes
[19:04] <kaleo> nik90, try
[19:05] <kaleo> sudo apt-get install libqt5v8-5-dev=5.0.2-3 libqt5v8-5-private-dev libqt5v8-5=5.0.2-3
[19:05] <nik90> okay that allowed me to isntall those packages.
[19:06] <nik90> Now I shall continue installing other packages from debian/control
[19:06] <kaleo> good
[19:15] <nik90> kaleo: hitting the same issue qtdeclarative5-private-dev, tried your way of sudo apt-get install qtdeclarative-dev=5.0.2-2 qtdeclarative5-private-dev qtdeclarative5=5.0.2-2...but doesnt seem to find the package
[19:16] <kaleo> =5.0.2-3
[19:16] <kaleo> not 2
[19:17] <nik90> kaleo: I tried that but it say version 5.0.2-3 does not exist for that package. I also tried 1,2,3
[19:17] <renato_> om26er, thanks for the review, and sorry because of the duplicated work :D
[19:17] <kaleo> nik90, ok, what's the error message
[19:18] <kaleo> nik90, what's the dependency that cannot be installed?
[19:18] <nik90> kaleo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5859337/
[19:18] <om26er> renato_, np ;)
[19:18] <kaleo> nik90, do it without the versions please
[19:18] <kaleo> nik90, and paste the result
[19:20] <nik90> kaleo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5859339/
[19:21] <nik90> I noticed I typed qtdeclarative-dev instead of qtdeclarative5-dev in the last command, but then it complains that "Unable to locate package qtdeclarative5"
[19:22] <kaleo> nik90, sudo apt-get install qtdeclarative5-private-dev qtdeclarative5-dev=5.0.2-1ubuntu2
[19:23] <kaleo> nik90, you must have installed a PPA at some point
[19:23] <kaleo> nik90, that's messing up your Qt installe
[19:23] <kaleo> -e
[19:23] <nik90> kaleo: true I get more warning than before stating the qt quick, quick particles etc are wrong
[19:23] <nik90> I will wait for launchpad :)
[19:24] <kaleo> nik90, try this
[19:25] <kaleo> do the same apt-get with -f
[19:25] <kaleo> e.g.: sudo apt-get install -f qtdeclarativeblabla
[19:26] <nik90> kaleo: doesnt work. same error. It is ignoring the force install parameter
[19:27] <kaleo> nik90, sorry, I asked you before I think, you are on saucy?
[19:28] <seb128> kaleo, nik90: do you guys need help sorting that out?
[19:28] <nik90> kaleo: yes on saucy
[19:28] <nik90> upgraded from raring if that matters
[19:29] <nik90> seb128: help welcome :)
[19:29] <kaleo> nik90, I'm guessing you have the qt5-proper PPA installed; sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical-qt5-edgers-qt5-proper-raring.list*
[19:29] <seb128> nik90, try sudo apt-get install qtdeclarative5-dev/saucy qtdeclarative5-private-dev/saucy
[19:29] <kaleo> nik90, then sudo apt-get update
[19:29] <kaleo> nik90, it does matter; that's the issue :)
[19:29] <nik90> yes I do have the ppa installed
[19:29] <kaleo> nik90, we need to remove it
[19:29] <kaleo> seb128, thanks!
[19:29] <seb128> yw ;-)
[19:30] <seb128> nik90, disable the ppa anyway, or it will try to upgrade the packages using it again, it seems to raring packages in the ppa are newer than the saucy version
[19:31] <nik90> seb128: ok
[19:31] <seb128> nik90, let me know if the command I just gave work
[19:31] <nik90> seb128: nope it did not work
[19:31] <seb128> nik90, can you pastebin the error?
[19:31] <nik90> seb128: so I removed the PPA adn then am updating
[19:31] <nik90> sure
[19:32] <nik90> seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5859365/
[19:32] <seb128> nik90, ok, that's easy enough...
[19:32] <seb128> nik90, dpkg -l | grep ~raring
[19:33] <seb128> nik90, then you need to "sudo apt-get install binary/saucy otherbinary/saucy yetanotherbinary/saucy"
[19:33] <seb128> where the "binary/saucy" list is all the binary the dpkg -l command listed
[19:33] <nik90> seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5859371/
[19:33] <seb128> or keep trying and add things that are listed in error
[19:34] <nik90> seb128: that's a lot of packages to do "sudo apt-get install binary/saucy otherbinary/saucy  yetanotherbinary/saucy"
[19:34] <nik90> :)
[19:34] <seb128> nik90, you can shell script if you like :p
[19:35] <mhall119> kaleo: seb128: I hope this is going to be easier once all the packages are built and published
[19:35] <kaleo> mhall119, they are
[19:35] <nik90> so at the end of the day, does saucy need the qt5-proper PPA or not?
[19:35] <kaleo> mhall119, it's just that the PPA has incorrect versions of Qt
[19:35] <kaleo> nik90, no
[19:36] <nik90> kaleo: mhall119: then the developer.ubuntu.com needs an update definitely
[19:36] <nik90> http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/
[19:37] <kaleo> nik90, it does not talk about Saucy (13.10) :)
[19:38] <nik90> kaleo: it does say "a development release" which is saucy
[19:38] <nik90> Alternatively, for those using Ubuntu 13.04 or a development release:
[19:38] <kaleo> nik90,  ah ah
[19:38] <kaleo> nik90, right
[19:39] <mhall119> kaleo: do we have package version conflicts between the saucy archives and the PPA?
[19:39] <nik90> kaleo: would I need the sdk-ppa then?
[19:39] <nik90> or shall i remove that as well
[19:39] <kaleo> mhall119, it kind of looks like it
[19:39] <mhall119> :/
[19:39] <kaleo> nik90, no
[19:39] <kaleo> nik90, saucy has everything
[19:39] <nik90> ok
[19:45] <renato_> timp, I am having problems with popover and keyboard, could you help me?
[19:45] <renato_> kaleo, who can help me with a popover problem?
[19:45] <kaleo> renato_, timp can
[19:45] <kaleo> renato_, by keyboard you mean keyboard navigation?
[19:46] <kaleo> renato_, the best is to report the bug first
[19:46] <kaleo> renato_, send an email to timp with the link (I believe he is EOD)
[19:48] <renato_> kaleo, no, the problem is that, just after the popover appear I ask the keyboard to dismiss, and then my item that is anchored to the popover moves but the popover does not follow it
[19:49] <renato_> kaleo, do you know if there is a easy way to fix that?
[19:49] <kaleo> renato_, don't know
[19:49] <kaleo> renato_, definitely a bug
[19:49] <renato_> ok I will report a bug
[19:50] <kaleo> renato_, thanks
[19:53] <renato_> kaleo, can I assign it to timp?
[19:53] <kaleo> renato_, yes
[19:53] <renato_> kaleo, ok thanks
[19:54] <renato_> kaleo, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1199502
[19:54] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1199502 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "[popover] Popover does not follow parent if it moves" [Undecided,New]
[20:22] <mhall119> kaleo: I built ubuntu-ui-toolkit using your branch, having some trouble getting it to work with the gradient
[20:23] <mhall119> file:///home/mhall/projects/Ubuntu/sdk/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/modules/Ubuntu/Components/Button.qml:83: TypeError: Cannot read property 'defaultGradient' of null
[20:23] <mhall119> file:///home/mhall/projects/Ubuntu/sdk/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/modules/Ubuntu/Components/Button.qml:72: TypeError: Cannot read property 'defaultColor' of null
[20:23] <mhall119> file:///home/mhall/projects/Ubuntu/sdk/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/modules/Ubuntu/Components/Label.qml:59: TypeError: Cannot read property 'selected' of null
[20:23] <mhall119> is what I get when running qmlscene with -I to point to the ./modules/ folder of the branch
[20:25] <kaleo> mhall119, ./gallery.sh works?
[20:25] <kaleo> mhall119, (after qmake && make)
[20:28] <mhall119> kaleo: it works,but I don't see any gradient
[20:29] <mhall119> kaleo: my test app works fine too if I don't use:
[20:29] <mhall119> Component.onCompleted: Theme.name = "Ubuntu.Components.Themes.AmbianceGradient"
[20:29] <mhall119> I get the normal flat theme
[20:29] <kaleo> mhall119, did you use the pastebin?
[20:29] <kaleo> mhall119, did you set the properties on the MainView?
[20:29] <mhall119> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5859216/ yes
[20:29] <kaleo> mhall119, what branch of the toolkit are you using?
[20:30] <mhall119> kaleo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5859559/ is my testing code
[20:30] <mhall119> kaleo: I'm using bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/ with bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~fboucault/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/dark_gradient_themes/ bzr merged on top
[20:33] <kaleo> mhall119, should work
[20:34] <kaleo> mhall119, did you do source export_modules_dir.sh ?
[20:34] <mhall119> no, didn't do that
[20:35] <kaleo> mhall119, what I told nik90 earlier: bzr branch thebranch && cd thebranch && qmake && make && source export_modules_dir.sh
[20:35] <kaleo> I gotta go though
[20:35] <kaleo> good luck
[20:35] <mhall119> ah ha, that did the trick,thanks kaleo
[20:36] <nik90> mhall119: can you try those 4 line code in the clock app as well?
[20:37] <nik90> I can give you the gradient color definitions
[20:37] <mhall119> nik90: sure, send them over
[20:37] <nik90> header: 57365e
[20:38] <nik90> body: a55263
[20:38] <nik90> footer: d75669
[20:41] <mhall119> nik90: hmmm, the header disappears when I apply the theme
[20:41] <mhall119> kaleo: are Tabs supported yet?
[20:41] <nik90> mhall119: you mean you can see Stopwatch, Timer and Alarm headers any more?
[20:41] <nik90> mhall119: screenshot pls
[20:42] <kaleo> mhall119, yes
[20:42] <kaleo> mhall119, it works here :)
[20:42] <mhall119> http://ubuntuone.com/46klPt2Ofxct0F4d9OgOP4
[20:43] <kaleo> mhall119, can you share the patch?
[20:43] <ctcb> Hi all...
[20:43] <nik90> mhall119: that is reminiscent of a bug I faced when the simple themeing infrastructure landed. However it was fixed the same day.
[20:44] <mhall119> kaleo: nik90: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5859611/ is the only change I made
[20:45]  * nik90 think the clock looks like a glowing sun with the new background :-)
[20:45] <mhall119> nik90: kaleo: when I comment out just the Theme.name line, I get http://ubuntuone.com/5wDK1GChj6Su2ccDeyTffa
[20:45] <kaleo> mhall119, I can reproduce the issue
[20:46] <kaleo> mhall119, not sure if it's a bug with the app or the toolkit
[20:46] <nik90> mhall119: did your test app have tab headers?
[20:46] <kaleo> mhall119, I have an idea of what the issue might be
[20:46] <kaleo> mhall119, I will look into it later
[20:47] <ctcb> I'm wondering if somebody can help me with a little bash code in a .sh file I'm making.
[20:47] <mhall119> nik90: it used PageStack, but it displayed the header: http://ubuntuone.com/0e1zEDG8vaAgMz1P8SEOEf
[20:47] <kaleo> mhall119, I have to go
[20:47] <kaleo> mhall119, nik90: it's very pretty though
[20:47] <mhall119> thanks kaleo, it's looking great
[20:47] <mhall119> kaleo: it is very pretty :)
[20:47] <nik90> kaleo: thnx
[20:48] <nik90> kaleo: looking forward to its merge
[20:48] <nik90> and very easy to use
[20:48] <nik90> mhall119: the test app looks great
[20:49] <nik90> mhall119: although you wrote the code in the mainview, so it applies to all tabs. However I need different background gradient for different tabs
[20:49] <nik90> hope that is supported as well
[20:50] <mhall119> nik90: the visual design had different gadients per tab?  I don't think kaleo's changes will do that...
[20:55] <ctcb> I want a way that in bashcode I can check if a folder exists and then do some if it does.
[20:56] <ctcb> I'm writing a script for an app installer.
[20:56] <nik90> mhall119: http://ubuntu-touch.blogspot.com/2013/07/clock-app-update-july-7th.html
[20:56] <nik90> mhall119: check out the stoptwatch and timer background gradient
[20:56] <mhall119> nik90: they look the same
[20:57] <nik90> mhall119: the clock background is different from the (stopwatch and timer)
[20:57] <mhall119> the two pictures you have under "Visual designs"?
[20:58] <nik90> mhall119: basically the clock has a pinkish footer color while the timer and stopwatch have a more orangish footer color
[20:58] <mhall119> their gradients are the same
[20:58] <nik90> look at http://ubuntuone.com/46klPt2Ofxct0F4d9OgOP4 and http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XFEE_1vaxYE/UdlfDshUE9I/AAAAAAAAB2U/LQtRqO9oul4/s1600/stopwatch_home.jpg
[20:58] <nik90> side by side
[20:59] <mhall119> oh, mine is different from yours
[20:59] <nik90> mhall119: yup.
[21:00] <mhall119> hey, I just used the hexcodes you gave me :)
[21:00] <mhall119> but each tab should have the same gradient, they won't be different
[21:01] <nik90> mhall119: the think is I received the visual design in 2 parts
[21:01] <nik90> mhall119: in each part, the background gradient is different
[21:02] <nik90> I will be meeting with the designers this thursday hopefully. Will ask them there
[21:03] <mhall119> ok
[21:03] <mhall119> still, we're making progress!
[21:03] <nik90> mhall119: yes :)
[21:04] <nik90> mhall119: I am also looking forward to tomorrow's timezone meeting
[21:05] <ctcb> I know this isn't the best place to ask this. But how would I make a linux dist?