[00:20] <jbicha> desrt: you don't have a wacom tablet, do you?
[05:36] <didrocks> good morning!
[05:41] <didrocks> hey RAOF! any idea how I can make my external screen recognized by the new Xorg? It stucks me at 1024x768 when it can really do more…
[05:42] <didrocks> launching xrandr made it recognizing the screen name and supported resolution, weird…
[05:42] <m4n1sh> I want to install a bunch of python files to python2.x location and at the same time to python3.x location - I see that I can't call AM_PATH_PYTHON twice
[05:42]  * didrocks logs out and back in
[05:45] <m4n1sh> I want to install a bunch of python files to python2.x location and at the same time to python3.x location - I see that I can't call AM_PATH_PYTHON twice
[05:45] <m4n1sh> any way to get the pythondir path for both python2.x and python3.x using automake
[05:59] <RAOF> didrocks: I think you're running into gnome-desktop braindamage - the Monitors capplet now (a) hangs for 30s every time it tries to set a new resolution and (b) fails half the time when trying to set a new resolution :)
[06:00] <didrocks> RAOF: that's more than possible that my desktop is *infected* :-)
[06:00] <didrocks> the barriers as well don't work for me (can't reveal the launcher)
[06:02] <RAOF> didrocks: That'd be because Unity hasn't updated to the new barriers API, I presume?
[06:02] <didrocks> RAOF: it did
[06:02] <didrocks> we added the breaks and so on…
[06:02] <didrocks> mlankhorst told he tested and it worked
[06:02] <didrocks> RAOF: do you reproduce? not sure if you have the latest xorg though :)
[06:02] <RAOF> didrocks: I do reproduce, yes.
[06:03] <didrocks> ok, thanks for confirming :)
[06:03] <RAOF> I've got something newer than the latest xorg
[06:03] <didrocks> ok, but as long as it's based on it…
[06:03] <didrocks> I think we'll have to hunt for them
[06:03] <RAOF> Yeah.
[06:32]  * rickspencer3 updates to new saucy xorg
[07:20] <chrisccoulson> good morning
[07:20] <didrocks> hey chrisccoulson, how are you?
[07:20] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, yeah, not too bad thanks. just had a long weekend :)
[07:21] <chrisccoulson> how are you?
[07:21] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: I'm good, thanks! :)
[07:25] <sil2100> didrocks: morning! Can you ACK a packaging change? ;)
[07:25] <didrocks> sil2100: hey, sure!
[07:25] <sil2100> didrocks: http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Apps/job/cu2d-apps-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_webbrowser-app_0.20+13.10.20130709-0ubuntu1.diff :)
[07:26] <didrocks> sil2100: does qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras-browser-plugin install some files from previous binary package?
[07:27] <didrocks> sil2100: as well:
[07:27] <didrocks> -         webbrowser-app (>= ${binary:Version}),
[07:27] <didrocks> +         webbrowser-app (= ${binary:Version}),
[07:27] <didrocks> I think this is wrong as it prevent from binNMUing
[07:27] <sil2100> This I found risky too, but as for the installatiion of previous files - it seems yes, but is that a problem?
[07:28] <didrocks> sil2100: there is no Replaces: … (<<)
[07:28] <didrocks> so people won't be able to upgrade
[07:32] <sil2100> Ah! Indeed, I see what you mean now
[07:33] <sil2100> Since even though webbrowser-app pulls qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras-browser-plugin now as a dep, it's a one sided dep and we're not protected if someone installs just latest qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras-browser-plugin, which has now file conflicts with webbrowser-app (probably)
[07:33] <didrocks> sil2100: or we are unsure, maybe qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras-browser-plugin will be unpack before the new webbrowser-app is unpacked
[07:33] <didrocks> it has file conflicts, at least the .mo files
[07:33] <sil2100> True, I guess it probably installs its files in different directories, but I'm not sure
[07:34] <sil2100> Right
[07:34] <sil2100> Let me fix that then, and poke upstream about those changes
[07:34] <didrocks> thanks :)
[07:35] <sil2100> didrocks: thanks! Your eyes scanned this nicely, I would have missed that because of not thinking all the cases
[07:35] <didrocks> sil2100: that will come with time :)
[07:36] <didrocks> sil2100: that's why it's important that you, robru and Mirv asks us when there are packaging change as it's some kind of uploads to distro :)
[07:51] <Mirv> I also think my brain is not yet wired to catch all related things
[07:51] <Mirv> trying to wire it properly
[08:01] <Laney> ahoy there
[08:02] <seb128> Laney, hey, how are you?
[08:02] <Laney> pretty good
[08:02] <Laney> it's great being able to have breakfast outside
[08:02] <Laney> you?
[08:03] <seb128> I'm quite good, thanks, a bit tired though
[08:03] <didrocks> Mirv: no worry, that's a way for me to sponsor you and you can get upload rights :)
[08:03] <didrocks> hey seb128!
[08:03] <didrocks> hey Laney ;)
[08:03] <seb128> I started looking at a bug at 11pm, was not the best idea, it took me until 1:45am to figure it out :p
[08:03] <seb128> didrocks, lut
[08:04] <didrocks> seb128: Laney: do you have reveal launcher working with new xorg + unity?
[08:04] <Laney> haha
[08:04] <seb128> didrocks, let me try, I don't hide launcher, but I tried before it landed and it was working
[08:04] <Laney> I started looking at ubiquity autopkgtests quite late too :P
[08:04] <seb128> didrocks, yes, working on both screens in dual screen
[08:04] <Laney> what's reveal launcher? when you move the mouse to the side?
[08:05] <didrocks> seb128: hum, doesn't work for me :/
[08:05] <didrocks> Laney: yeah, with launcher hidden
[08:05] <seb128> Laney, when you hide your launcher, it's how you get it back on screen
[08:05] <Laney> then yes, works
[08:05] <seb128> didrocks, what happens for you?
[08:05] <didrocks> seb128: nothing, I push as hard as I can and nothing reveals
[08:06] <Laney> I saw a bug before where it didn't though but toggling with super twice fixed it
[08:06] <didrocks> no, not even with that…
[08:06] <Laney> :/
[08:06] <didrocks> I have to push
[08:06] <didrocks> take it back for ~2px
[08:06] <didrocks> and push again
[08:06] <didrocks> and then works
[08:06] <seb128> weird
[08:06] <seb128> it's a bit buggy when I come too strong with the cursor
[08:07] <didrocks> even slowly here
[08:07] <seb128> but I don't use it so I can't say if that was the case before
[08:07] <seb128> ok, dunno ... check with brandon I guess?
[08:07] <didrocks> I think there is no alternative :/
[08:07] <seb128> I guess it was working fine before for you?
[08:08] <didrocks> yep
[08:11] <m4n1sh> if the importer fails for like 2 days, what should be the correct course of action? file a bug against udd? or can someone push the branch manually which is out of date?
[08:12] <seb128> yes, file a bug against udd
[08:12] <seb128> you can push manually yes
[08:12] <m4n1sh> well, I don't have permissions (need to wait for jbicha to come online), so udd is the way to go
[09:27] <Mirv> didrocks: wow, ok :)
[09:35] <m4n1sh> mpt: you wanted smaller icons in the exclude list. Have a look at this when free https://code.launchpad.net/~zeitgeist/activity-log-manager/smaller-exclude-icons/+merge/173678
[09:35] <m4n1sh> the screenshot is attached in that MP
[09:43] <ritz_> seb128, hi, sorry to ping you, https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtk/+bug/1188571 any chance we could accept this in gtk2/precise ?
[09:43] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1188571 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "The list of printers should be searchable/sortable " [Wishlist,Triaged]
[09:43] <seb128> ritz_, hey, did you get an upstream review?
[09:43] <seb128> ritz_, we need it in saucy first
[09:43] <ritz_> I had shot en email, have not heard any reply
[09:44] <ritz_> will ping upstream again ( gtk-devel list)
[09:56] <seb128> ritz_, try IRC maybe...
[09:59] <ritz_> seb128, thanks , will do this
[10:37] <mpt> m4n1sh, reviewed, thanks. BTW, do you know why "Include:" and "Exclude:" aren't lined up? They should both be at the top of the same box.
[10:38] <mpt> Maybe one of those cells is accidentally vertically centered, or something
[10:40] <sil2100> Mirv: hi! You very busy ;) ?
[10:49] <Mirv> sil2100: quite, and having a telco soon, but here I am anyway..
[10:50] <sil2100> Mirv: nevermind then! ;)
[10:50]  * Mirv is running stuff on 3 computers :)
[10:51] <Mirv> sil2100: I want to have qt 5.1 preview packages this week, but other than quite many things ongoing things seem smoorh at the moment
[11:04] <seb128> Mirv, hey, did you see my qtsystems bug?
[11:04] <mlankhorst> did anyone find a workaround for not being able to enter a sim pin code in ubuntu touch?
[11:05] <seb128> mlankhorst, try asking on #ubuntu-touch maybe? (I didn't see the pin code stuff here on an image from yesterday)
[11:05] <mlankhorst> no not part of the image currently
[11:05] <mlankhorst> but it's been on known issues for a long time :/
[11:28] <Mirv> seb128: now I saw, thanks (and now I subscribed to the new packages' bug mail too). I wonder if it's the same thing mterry mentioned and I asked him to e-mail me the patch he was talking about but I didn't receive anything
[11:29] <Mirv> seb128: fixing that soon(ish)
[11:29] <seb128> Mirv, do you plan to update the version soon? or do you want me to backport that patch?
[11:29] <seb128> Mirv, ok, let me know if you need sponsoring, I can do that (and the other qt stuff in the queue) later today
[11:29] <seb128> I sort of want that ofono fix to see if that makes getting the IMEI work
[11:35] <sil2100> didrocks: oooh ooooh my apps prepare job failed!
[11:36] <sil2100> didrocks: NameError: name 'packagemager' is not defined
[11:36] <sil2100> http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Apps/job/cu2d-apps-head-1.1prepare-webbrowser-app/111/console
[11:36] <didrocks> sil2100: ahah, told you I changed some stuff :)
[11:36] <didrocks> sil2100: thanks, looking
[11:36] <sil2100> I know ;)
[11:36] <didrocks> of course in the part of the script running, the one I can't cover with tests…
[11:36] <didrocks> missing import
[11:37] <Mirv> seb128: it seems the patch is already included in our snapshot, so it'd be matter of using the CONFIG+=ofono on the current one. checking if it'd just work.
[11:37] <seb128> Mirv, no it's not
[11:38] <seb128> Mirv, it's from june 24 or 26 and the snapshot is from 10 days before that
[11:38] <seb128> Mirv, I spent some hours on that yesterday, our version fails to build with ofono enabled, and the CONFIG+= trick doesn't work because the config_ofono {} stuff in the .pro is invalid
[11:39] <didrocks> sil2100: please retry, should be better now
[11:39] <Mirv> seb128: right, ok, I thought I had the git checkout in a directory but I probably did a git pull already. ok, updating the snapshot as well.
[11:39] <seb128> Mirv, thanks ;-)
[11:39] <seb128> Mirv, I put the debian/rules change needed in the bug report
[12:11] <sil2100> didrocks: I checked the QA stack check job, and strange thing with those tests, I think someone from the AP team needs to take a look
[12:12] <didrocks> sil2100: I think Mirv already mailed them, but no anwser :/
[12:12] <sil2100> didrocks: since I see that the problem is that some tests are started, not finished, and then another test gets started before those finish ;/
[12:12] <sil2100> So then there's a conflict with recordmydesktop, since 2 are being ran at the same time
[12:12] <didrocks> sil2100: btw, you never got any answer as well from the couple of emails you sent last time?
[12:12] <sil2100> didrocks: right, geh
[12:12] <didrocks> argh, yeah…
[12:12] <didrocks> sil2100: maybe try another email with your analysis?
[12:13] <sil2100> hm, I guess I'll ping some of the guys on the qa channel and maybe ask them to poke thomi and veebers when they have the chance
[12:13] <sil2100> And that ;p
[12:13] <didrocks> sil2100: thanks!
[12:21] <Mirv> didrock / sil2100: chris did respond to me, estimates the fix will be in around when he wakes up in 6 hours
[12:22] <sil2100> Mirv: \o/ Thanks, good to hear!
[12:22] <sil2100> I thought there was no answer since I did not get anything, and I was in CC I think, right?
[12:25] <Mirv> sil2100: yeah I included you in CC but it seems you were then dropped. forwarded the rest of the conversation to you.
[12:25] <sil2100> Mirv: thanks :)
[12:25] <sil2100> didrocks: http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Apps/job/cu2d-apps-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_webbrowser-app_0.21+13.10.20130709-0ubuntu1.diff <- how about now?
[12:26] <didrocks> sil2100: way better, +1 :)
[12:26] <didrocks> Mirv: great! :)
[12:42] <sil2100> cyphermox, didrocks, Mirv: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/clean_up_packages_lists/+merge/173539 this little baby waits for review, still working on that, but it's hard without real deployment and seeing what otto would say ;)
[12:43] <didrocks> sil2100: I think you need to manual monitor as well, I saw that the package check was broken again recently, so we need to ensure it's working first
[12:43] <didrocks> sil2100: jibel added some set -x to read future runs
[12:44] <sil2100> Manual monitor?
[12:48] <didrocks> yeah, looking at the jenkins job output, I'm afraid ::
[12:48] <didrocks> :/
[12:51] <sil2100> Ah, ok ;) Well, no problem... I would just ask for some patience and understanding if suddenly check jobs won't work if this merge gets in
[12:53] <mlankhorst> seb128: I'm going to call EOD early, I've done slightly too much work in the time I should not work :P
[12:53] <mlankhorst> but items for this week were landing x1.14, and getting patches to drm-nouveau-next merged
[13:13] <Mirv> seb128: ok a new qtsystems snapshot built with CONFIG+=ofono should testable on device with apt-add-repository ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-beta2
[13:14] <seb128> kenvandine, hey
[13:14] <seb128> kenvandine, ^ would appreciate if you could try that and see if it makes imei fetching working in u-s-s
[13:18] <kenvandine> seb128, will do
[13:19] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks
[13:19] <seb128> kenvandine, how are you? ;-)
[13:20] <kenvandine> great
[13:20] <kenvandine> and you?
[13:23] <kenvandine> Mirv, https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/cupstream2distro-config/autoland_friends-app_sdk/+merge/173718
[13:25] <seb128> kenvandine, I'm good thanks
[13:26] <seb128> kenvandine, I got a MR up for apps sorting in the storage panel
[13:26] <seb128> kenvandine, Laney: review of that welcome btw, that got hackish, qml don't give you any easy way to sort a model
[13:26] <seb128> I did some js "iterate over the model and create new sorted models on the fly"
[13:26] <kenvandine> seb128, i'm getting a crash
[13:27] <seb128> kenvandine, retry
[13:27] <kenvandine> in the about plugin
[13:27] <seb128> kenvandine, the settings app segfault often on start
[13:27] <seb128> oh
[13:27] <seb128> with my branch?
[13:27] <seb128> or before?
[13:27] <seb128> or with the new qtsystems?
[13:27] <kenvandine> new qtsystems
[13:28] <kenvandine> happens everytime i select the about plugin
[13:28] <seb128> k
[13:28] <seb128> is that in ofono code?
[13:28] <seb128> Mirv, ^
[13:28] <kenvandine> today's image shows no installed apps in the apps lens
[13:29] <kenvandine> grrr
[13:29]  * seb128 notes to not update
[13:30] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images/+bug/1199322
[13:30] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1199322 in Unity 8 "Lenses show no dynamic content" [Critical,In progress]
[13:30] <kenvandine> #0  0x488ddfe6 in ?? ()
[13:30] <kenvandine>    from /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libQt5SystemInfo.so.5
[13:31] <kenvandine> Laney, thanks
[13:31] <kenvandine> seb128, not useful without debug symbols :)
[13:31] <kenvandine> but the crash is in qt5systeminfo
[13:31] <ogra_> kenvandine, MP is on the way, as soon as the fix migrated to the archive i'll respin todays image
[13:32] <ogra_> not sure when the CI job runs or when the MP will be approved though
[13:32] <kenvandine> ogra_, no worries... i can just use ssh for now :)
[13:33] <Laney> the ones on there are qml only so you could maybe apply the patches locally
[13:33] <kenvandine> ogra_, will the fix need a new flash?  or can i just update?
[13:33] <ogra_> yeah, but dogfooders wont be happy
[13:33] <ogra_> no idea, i dont know what is actually broken, Saviq worked on the fix
[13:33] <ogra_> if it involved just unity8 you should be able to just upgrade
[13:33] <Saviq> kenvandine, ogra_, it's just unity8, yes
[13:33] <ogra_> cool
[13:34] <Saviq> we're back in autolanding mode now, due to some jenkins mishap
[13:34] <Saviq> so should get there soon
[13:34]  * ogra_ watches the -changes ML anyway 
[13:35] <ogra_> as long as its on the way all is fine :)
[13:44] <kenvandine> larsu, have you had a chance to look at exposes the choices from a schema in gsettings-qt?
[13:44] <kenvandine> or the list model stuff?
[13:45] <larsu> kenvandine: no, sorry. I was busy with unity-greeter and now indicator-sound. Will look at those next.
[13:45] <kenvandine> thx
[13:54] <seb128> kenvandine, Mirv: new qtsystems works fine on my laptop, so maybe an issue with ofono or something on the device ... will need debugging
[13:56] <ctcb> Hi all...
[13:56] <ctcb> I have an Suggestion/Idea that I think should be in the Ubuntu Terminal Application.
[13:58] <ctcb> I think the 'mv' command should have a -r argument alike to the -r argument in the 'cp' command. What -r would do in -mv is move everything from the current folder, and things within subfolders + subfolders, etc.
[13:59] <ogra_> ctcb, mv <olddir> <newdir>  is not enough for you ?
[14:00] <ctcb> ogra_, I have a folder with a ton of folders in, and I need to move it to my ~/Dev folder.
[14:00] <ogra_> (also note that this is neither terminal nor desktop related)
[14:01] <ctcb> In the main ubuntu channel, I was told to come here.
[14:01] <ogra_> so: mv /path/to/folder/ ~/Dev
[14:01] <ogra_> or mv /path/to/folder/* ~/Dev
[14:01] <ctcb> Then I need to do the same command like... 15 - 20 times.
[14:01] <ctcb> When a -r command could do everything at once.
[14:14] <qengho> seb128: Will you please push this back up the hill and see if it goes this time?  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/28.0.1500.52-0ubuntu2/+build/4749281
[14:14] <qengho> I wish I could make it retry, but I can't.
[14:15]  * ogra_ wonders why ... i thought the signing uploader always can
[14:16] <ogra_> qengho, seb128 done
[14:16] <seb128> ogra_, qengho: I retried the build 3 times since yesterday
[14:16] <ogra_> oh
[14:16] <seb128> it always fails around 9 hours
[14:16] <sil2100> kenvandine: hi! Is indicator-location ready for daily-release quality-wise? Since I see  you made some packaging changes, but is the code ready for daily release?
[14:16] <seb128> I wonder if there is a toolchain issue there
[14:17] <ogra_> i wonder if we could ask IS to force it onto another machine then
[14:17] <qengho> seb128: I suspect it's overheating.
[14:18] <kenvandine> sil2100, not sure... i didn't really look at the code
[14:18] <kenvandine> i was just helping tedg out
[14:18] <kenvandine> i don't think there are any tests
[14:19] <kenvandine> i think i was bugging tedg to add tests
[14:19] <tedg> kenvandine, sil2100, yeah, I was more getting things ready for when we can work on it more.
[14:20] <tedg> It's going to change a bunch in that it'll get moved from Gtk/AppIndicator to GMenuModel.
[14:20] <tedg> It doesn't make sense to add tests to what's there really.
[14:20] <tedg> But, in the long term, it'll need to get into distro and stuff like that.
[14:20] <tedg> So I think it's worth checking off the other boxes.
[14:25] <sil2100> tedg: so you think it would make sense to daily release?
[14:25] <sil2100> Right now
[14:25] <sil2100> tedg: same for ubuntu-geoip - what about that one?
[14:26] <seb128> Laney, jfyi https://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/gicon_no_qpixmap/+merge/173734
[14:26] <seb128> Laney, should make ubuntu-system-settings segfault less
[14:26] <Laney> is that our bug?
[14:26] <seb128> Laney, I got Kaleo to work to it
[14:26] <seb128> Laney, yes
[14:26] <Laney> awesome
[14:26] <seb128> Laney, they needed sponsoring, I traded against a look to the issue ;-)
[14:27] <Laney> haha
[14:27] <Laney> a good use of leverage
[14:28] <didrocks> robru: cyphermox: sil2100: Mirv: kenvandine: even more scary code for cupstream2distro in production, if you see issues in prepare, possible that it's me :)
[14:28] <sil2100> Oh noes
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[14:28] <cyphermox> ok
[14:29] <kenvandine> didrocks, ok, i'll watch for it
[14:32] <tedg> sil2100, In general, yes.  I don't think they'll hurt anything as no one uses them yet.  It'd be nice to get the machinery working early.
[14:34] <Laney> dobey: do you have a packaging branch for software-center?
[14:35] <tedg> The Friends app is a big black square for me right now.  Either there's a bug or kenvandine is making a commentary about my social life.
[14:35] <sil2100> tedg: thanks - also, another question, unity-greeter-session-broadcast ;)
[14:35] <kenvandine> :-D
[14:36] <sil2100> What's up with that one?
[14:36] <seb128> is u1 sync daemon broken for somebody else?
[14:36] <kenvandine> tedg, humm
[14:36] <tedg> sil2100, That's the basis for mterry's greeter feature.
[14:36] <tedg> sil2100, Same status
[14:36] <tedg> sil2100, Oh, and don't forget url-dispatcher :-)
[14:36] <dobey> Laney: no. it's just the imported packaging in lp:ubuntu/software-center, why?
[14:36] <sil2100> tedg: yes, was moving to that one now ;p Same/
[14:36] <Laney> dobey: OK then
[14:37] <Laney> dobey: I was trying to fix the autopkgtests and updated the test depends to add some missing ones
[14:37] <kenvandine> tedg, all the updates from saucy?
[14:37]  * tedg is really tired of starting now projects, why can't people just be happy with laptops and desktops?
[14:37] <seb128> dobey, Laney: do you know if ubuntuone-syncdaemon is known to be broken in saucy?
[14:37] <kenvandine> it was broken because of sdk changes
[14:37] <sil2100> ;)
[14:37] <tedg> kenvandine, I updated last night.  Let me do so today.
[14:37] <Laney> seb128: sure looks broken to me
[14:37] <seb128> Laney, dobey
[14:38] <seb128>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone/platform/__init__.py", line 52, in expand_user
[14:38] <seb128>     assert isinstance(path, str)
[14:38] <seb128> AssertionError
[14:38] <dobey> Laney: ah. there is a "packaging branch" sort of, for the nightlies builds; it's only the debian/ dir content though
[14:38] <Laney> dobey: I also have a "misc fixes" MP for you which fixes some test failures
[14:38] <dobey> seb128: ugh.
[14:38] <Laney> Not all of them though - I'm hoping you or someone on your team might want to look at the rest? :-)
[14:38] <seb128> I blame barry
[14:38] <Laney> The failure blocks stuff in saucy-proposed
[14:39] <dobey> seb128: me too
[14:39] <Laney> side note: it's annoying how adt-run doesn't give you stdout
[14:40] <tedg> Laney, you can't HANDLE stdout  ;-)
[14:40] <tedg> I guess that'd be a better windows joke.
[14:40] <dobey> Laney: i'd be inclined to just disable them for now. i don't really have time to look at them, and i don't think anyone else on the team does either :-/
[14:41] <Laney> dobey: heh, well if you want to turn off the ones that fail then go ahead
[14:41] <Laney> OTOH the cause might be obvious to someone who knows the code
[14:41] <Laney> In any event my branch makes more of them pass so it's not completely awful
[14:42] <seb128> dobey, Laney: the syncdaemon issue is a barry one indeed, cf #ubuntu-devel
[14:42] <Laney> yeah, saw
[14:42] <Laney> The proposal to merge lp:~laney/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/crossfadeimage into lp:ubuntu-ui-toolkit has been updated.
[14:42] <Laney> Status: Needs review => Approved
[14:43] <Laney> !!!!!!!!
[14:43] <seb128> kenvandine, ^ is that what broke background for you maybe?
[14:44] <seb128> Laney,
 oh... not sure this is new
[14:44] <seb128>  but now the backgrounds plugin displays black images
[14:44] <kenvandine> not sure
[14:44] <Laney> it can't be that unmerged code ...
[14:44] <Laney> on desktop?
[14:45] <kenvandine> Laney, yeah, on the desktop
[14:45] <kenvandine> i didn't test before install kaleo's branch fixing gicon
[14:45] <kenvandine> but that change seems unrelated
[14:45] <Laney> I had some dubious problems after a recent ui-toolkit update
[14:45] <kenvandine> oh... guess what!
[14:45] <kenvandine> i have no background set right now!
[14:45] <kenvandine> my desktop is black :)
[14:46]  * kenvandine wonders what happened
[14:46] <seb128> lol
[14:46] <Laney> O_O
[14:46] <kenvandine> so no bug there :)
[14:46] <Laney> unless it's a black image it should fall back to the demo defaults
[14:46] <kenvandine> odd
[14:47] <kenvandine> the appearance panel in g-c-c still shows the image
[14:47] <kenvandine> so it's set
[14:47] <kenvandine> but my desktop is drawn as all black
[14:48] <Laney> blame new X :P
[14:48] <kenvandine> ok... all good now :)
[14:48] <kenvandine> changed it twice
[14:48] <kenvandine> whew
[15:11] <rickspencer3> hey all, is U1 working for everyone else after today's update?
[15:11] <rickspencer3> or am I the only one seeing bug #1199402
[15:11] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1199402 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "Ubuntuone failed to run" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1199402
[15:11] <rickspencer3> ?
[15:11] <rickspencer3> dobey, ^ ?
[15:11] <Laney> rickspencer3: That just got discussed in #ubuntu-devel - barry was going to look at it IIUC
[15:12] <dobey> yeah, python-configparser getting pulled in broke some stuff
[15:12] <Laney> so the answer to your questions is "yes" and "no" respectively :-)
[15:12] <Laney> he did ask for a bug so pointing him to that would be good
[15:13] <rickspencer3> seems like it would be easy to add an auto-pilot test to the daily smoke tests or something that looks for the indicator
[15:14] <dobey> Laney: seb filed a bug already. i just marked rick's as a dup of it :)
[15:14] <Laney> fair
[15:15] <Laney> dobey: so I'm going to update my MP to disable tests that I don't see how to fix straight away
[15:15] <Laney> up to you if you want to take that or not
[15:15] <seb128> somebody else filed it before me
[15:15] <dobey> Laney: sounds fine to me
[15:16] <Laney> pep8 is one that's fixable but oh so tedious
[15:16] <dobey> seb128: ah, ok; i didn't see if you were reporter or not. just presumed you were :)
[15:19] <jbicha> tedg: what kind of a bug is bug 1199377?
[15:19] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1199377 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "mpt crashes gnome-control-center" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1199377
[15:21] <mpt> jbicha, true-but-not-useful
[15:21] <mpt> I reported the crash to the error tracker. :-)
[15:22] <jbicha> it's pretty funny though
[15:25] <tedg> jbicha, Yes, it was intended to harass mpt :-)
[15:29] <didrocks> seb128: thanks for the qt-opensource-src review :)
[15:30] <seb128> didrocks, yw, poor Mirv was chasing people for days without luck ... and I traded the review against a bugfix from Kaleo ;-)
[15:30] <seb128> oh, it's meeting time
[15:30] <didrocks> heh
[15:30] <seb128> qengho, mlankhorst, Sweetshark, Laney, tkamppeter, attente, desrt, larsu: hey, it's meeting time
[15:30] <tkamppeter> hi
[15:30] <qengho> yay!
[15:30] <larsu> meeting \o/
[15:31] <seb128> how is everyone?
[15:31] <desrt> wet
[15:31] <larsu> dry
[15:31] <seb128> larsu, welcome back in Europe ;-)
[15:31] <qengho> hot
[15:31]  * larsu fled Toronto before the flood
[15:31] <larsu> seb128: thanks!
[15:31] <desrt> toronto is under half a metre of water
[15:31] <seb128> ok, first item: please review/update your workitems
[15:32] <seb128> especially if you still have some on http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-13.06.html
[15:32] <seb128> cyphermox, qengho: you still have quite some here, you might want to move them to 13.07
[15:32] <seb128> (just did that today with the mine for system settings)
[15:33] <seb128> didrocks, ^ btw if you could do a reminder about that for your half of the meeting as well
[15:33] <seb128>  
[15:33] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, was planning that :)
[15:33] <seb128> on that note, let's get started with status updates
[15:33] <seb128> didrocks, thanks
[15:33] <seb128> qengho, hey
[15:33] <qengho> * Fixed chromium-browser Neon support for ARMHF. Need to upload. "Fixed" as in "I had my dog fixed."
[15:33] <qengho> * Added some simple autopkgtest tests to packaging. Simple smoketest so far. Will add tests for webapps functionality, somehow.  (Help!)  Also may publish a hook recipe for {p,cow}builder users.
[15:34] <qengho> I have no experience poking keyboard events into or UI tests. Sounds hard.
[15:35] <desrt> a11y!!
[15:35] <seb128> qengho, did you talk to the qa team about it?
[15:35] <qengho> Not yet.  chromium isn't 'known for acessibility, desrt.
[15:35] <desrt> :(
[15:35] <seb128> or didrocks&co might be able to help
[15:35] <seb128> not sure if autopilot stuff can apply to your case
[15:36] <ogra_> qengho, if we have some eventagain  where we can meet in person i'll bring you an ac100 ... so you can test on non NEON HW more easily
[15:36]  * didrocks sees no &co after his nickname :)
[15:36] <didrocks> qengho: seb128: I doubt it can, but we can have a try at least
[15:36] <qengho> ogra_: I've been using #ac100 a lot.
[15:36] <seb128> didrocks, ;-)
[15:36] <seb128> didrocks, thanks
[15:36] <ogra_> qengho, yeah, saw that
[15:36] <ogra_> :)
[15:36] <qengho> EOF
[15:36] <seb128> qengho, let's see if the 3rd retry of chromium/saucy/armhf works out
[15:37] <seb128> qengho, and fixing menus and webapps there would still be nice as well ;-)
[15:37] <seb128> qengho, thanks
[15:37]  * qengho lights black candles and prepares the goat.
[15:37] <ogra_> else we'll send some IS guy with a fan
[15:37] <seb128> mlankhorst called it a day early
[15:37] <ogra_> (or icecream for the panda or so)
	but items for this week were landing x1.14, and getting patches to drm-nouveau-next merged
[15:37] <seb128> ..
[15:38] <seb128> .
[15:38] <seb128> Sweetsha1k, hey
[15:38] <seb128> no there it seems?
[15:38] <didrocks> seb128: I didn't see him around since the conference, is he back?
[15:39] <seb128> Laney, hey
[15:39] <Laney> • Xorg transition assistance - blocking, hinting, discussing
[15:39] <Laney> ∘ Seemed to expose a weird toolkit image corruption bug; switiching to nouveau (freedom!) fixed it for now
[15:39] <seb128> didrocks, I'm not sure, checking on calendar
[15:39] <Laney> • Finish 'background' DBus work and get that merged
[15:39] <Laney> • Reviews of system-settings MPs
[15:39] <Laney> • Spend a fair bit of time fixing CrossFadeImage review comments and encountering weird counterintuitive QML behaviour/bugs. This just got merged though. Soon to be one less custom widget in u-s-s. (after the UbuntuShape bit of it gets in...) :-)
[15:39] <Laney> • Merge gtk+2.0 gtk+3.0 from Debian to get cool immodule cache postinst simplifications.
[15:39] <Laney> • Too many discussions about multiarch directories for g-c-c. ;-)
[15:39] <Laney> • autopkgtest fix for ubiquity which required learning about ISO-639
[15:39] <Laney> • Working on autokpkgtest fixes for software-center
[15:39] <Laney> • Roasted in the heatwave. Buy me a pool?
[15:40] <seb128> didrocks, he's not marked as off but maybe the website didn't have vac days approved or something
[15:41] <seb128> Laney, if you manage to talk jason into buying you a pool let us know how ;-)
[15:41] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[15:41] <Laney> legitimate work expense!
[15:41] <seb128> Laney, how much is still missing on the background panel which is not blocked on other teams (like file picker)?
[15:41] <desrt> Laney: i suggest being on battery power if working in the pool....
[15:41] <seb128> Laney, do you plan to pick another panel?
[15:43] <seb128> ok, moving on
[15:43] <Laney> sorry
[15:43] <seb128> we can discuss that after the meeting
[15:43] <Laney> nothing, apart from getting the rest of it into the toolkit
[15:43] <seb128> no worry ;-)
[15:43] <Laney> I'll pick one to do, yeah
[15:43] <seb128> k
[15:43] <seb128> didrocks, do you still plan/want to do privacy?
[15:44] <seb128> well, let's discuss that out of the meeting
[15:44] <seb128> it's not like we were lacking panels that need work
[15:44] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, the WI was for august, and I'm still on time :)
[15:44] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[15:44] <seb128> tkamppeter, hey
[15:44] <tkamppeter>  - General bug fixes.
[15:44] <tkamppeter>  - Development on cups-filters towards PPD-less printing on IPP printers.
[15:44] <tkamppeter>  - Mentoring GSoC students
[15:45] <seb128> tkamppeter, thanks
[15:45] <seb128> desrt, hey
[15:45] <desrt> hey
[15:45] <desrt> a week of much talking, not so much action
[15:45] <desrt> designed a new dbus protocol with larsu
[15:45] <desrt> and figured out how accel changing is going to work
[15:45] <desrt> actually got a good chunk of the work done there
[15:46] <desrt> spending today actually integrating it into the menu tracker stuff
[15:46] <desrt> that's about all, really
[15:46] <desrt> (the rest was mostly mailing list arguments and the like, as you're aware)
[15:46] <seb128> desrt, "new dbus protocol" ... what is that about?
[15:46] <desrt> notifications based on actions
[15:47] <seb128> ok
[15:47] <seb128> desrt, thanks
[15:47] <desrt> so that the notifications can be around when apps are not running
[15:47] <desrt> and clicking the notification can bring the app back to life
[15:47] <seb128> (and yeah, /o\ for endless discussions on details, though those are sometime needed)
[15:47] <desrt> also: solves some race conditions in the existing freedesktop protocol
[15:48] <larsu> desrt also fixed that g-c-c thing :)
[15:48] <seb128> right, you guys mentioned the offline stuff in the past ... good to see that's still being worked ;-)
[15:48] <desrt> oh ya... lots of small bugfixes, of course
[15:48] <seb128> right
[15:48] <seb128> desrt, thanks
[15:48] <seb128> attente, hey
[15:48] <desrt> ta
[15:48] <attente> seb128, hi
[15:48] <attente> wrapped up indicator-keyboard unit tests
[15:48] <attente> fixing up MPs needed for indicator-keyboard landing
[15:48] <attente> more work on the language panel ui in ubuntu-system-settings, will start the backend stuff this week
[15:48] <attente> eof
[15:49] <seb128> attente, oh, you started on the system settings work, great
[15:49] <attente> it's just the ui at this point though
[15:49] <seb128> attente, are you around after the meeting to discuss a bit indicator-keyboard landing?
[15:49] <attente> sure
[15:50] <seb128> good
[15:50] <seb128> attente, feel free to ask questions on the channel if you need help with the phone ui/qml
[15:50] <seb128> some of us start having some experience with that
[15:50] <attente> thanks, will do
[15:50] <seb128> or just merge propose the ui to lp:ubuntu-system-settings so you get team reviews there
[15:50] <seb128> attente, thanks
[15:50] <seb128> larsu, hey
[15:51] <larsu> - made sure the new indicators show up in the right order
[15:51] <larsu> - added support for new indicators in unity-greeter
[15:51] <larsu> - fixed most indicator-sound issues raised on the MR (thanks seb128 and charles); expecting to land it this week
[15:51] <larsu> - some minor indicator fixes that came up during the week
[15:51] <larsu> - fixed and indicator-battery crash (they still use that on the phone)
[15:51] <larsu> - moved to Berlin

[15:51] <seb128> larsu, oh, I didn't see the update of indicator-sound, I'm probably not subscribe ... I will build/try the update
[15:52] <seb128> larsu, thanks
[15:52] <seb128> me
[15:52] <larsu> seb128: I didn't fix everything on your list yet, but I'm getting close ;)
[15:52] <seb128> * spent most of my week on system settings, got quite some done
[15:52] <seb128> - storage UI is mostly done
[15:52] <seb128> - it lists apps (from a fake model atm) and allows to sort them
[15:52] <seb128> - plugged backend into libhybris
[15:53] <seb128> - used qtsystem for disk storage infos and some other bits
[15:53] <seb128> * some bugs fixing
[15:53] <seb128> * some IRC/mailing list discussions that eat some time in the week
[15:53] <seb128> * helped on landing the new xorg to saucy
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[15:54] <seb128> did I forget anyone? questions/comments?
[15:56] <seb128> ok, seems not, thanks everyone ;-)
[15:56] <Laney> thanks!
[15:56] <seb128> we have 4 minutes before didrocks takes over
[15:56] <seb128> let's take a bit system settings still
[15:57] <seb128> larsu, do you plan to work on any panel? not sure how packed you are still with indicators
[15:57] <didrocks> seb128: some dummy question on the system settings, but how do you go back on the desktop, once you select a category?
[15:57] <seb128> larsu, do you know if power/datetime are going to be easy through unitymenumodel once that lands?
[15:57] <kenvandine> didrocks, slide up from the bottom
[15:57] <seb128> didrocks, you dnd the bottom bar
[15:57] <kenvandine> same as the phone
[15:57] <seb128> click at the bottom and dnd up
[15:58] <kenvandine> not mouse friendly
[15:58] <seb128> no...
[15:58] <didrocks> ah… ok :p
[15:58] <didrocks> thanks seb128, kenvandine
[15:58] <seb128> we should probably bind delete to or esc to back
[15:58] <seb128> didrocks, yw
[15:58] <seb128> -to
[15:58] <larsu> seb128: I haven't looked at the designs much. If they are fairly similar in terms of features, they shoud be easy
[15:59] <larsu> seb128: I'm still quite busy with sound and messages and gsettings-qt
[15:59] <kenvandine> yay for gsettings-qt improvements!
[15:59] <kenvandine> :-D
[15:59] <larsu> seb128: this^^ guy wants more features :P
[15:59] <kenvandine> hehe
[15:59] <larsu> kenvandine: ;)
[16:00] <seb128> ;-)
[16:00] <Laney> Do we have any information on unitymenumodel?
[16:00] <seb128> larsu, ok, finish the indicators first
[16:00] <seb128> Laney, larsu is working on it ... not sure if it's ready
[16:00] <seb128> oh, time for didrocks
[16:00] <didrocks> yep ;)
[16:00] <didrocks> cyphermox: Mirv: kenvandine: robru: sil2100: hey guys! how are you? :)
[16:00] <Laney> well, like - what's the outline of how a panel using that will look?
[16:00] <robru> didrocks, awake!
[16:00]  * Laney shuts up
[16:01] <didrocks> robru: \o/
[16:01] <kenvandine> robru!
[16:01]  * robru wipes sleep from eeys
[16:01] <kenvandine> happier now that we don't seem to have regressions from the sdk :)
[16:01] <didrocks> heh :)
[16:02] <sil2100> Hello!
[16:02] <sil2100> \o/
[16:02] <davmor2> Laney: It's a Menu Model for unity,  or did you need more info than that :)
[16:02] <didrocks> hey again sil2100 ;)
[16:02]  * didrocks waits a little bit for cyphermox and Mirv
[16:02] <didrocks> let's do some announcements meanwhile
[16:03] <didrocks> https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuDk72Lpx8U5dHFtUmlPOUtCRk8zR2dtaEpIbUVhMmc#gid=0
[16:03] <didrocks> -> if you have edit rights, you will see the "ubuntu-unity tools" menu next to help
[16:03] <didrocks> it will help you tagging tasks DONE/UNDONE (and help me archiving with once click!)
[16:03] <robru> didrocks, sounds like you are the spreadsheet ninja
[16:04] <sil2100> Ah
[16:04] <didrocks> robru: ahah, it is actual javascript code (running on google cloud ;))
[16:04] <sil2100> Ooooh
[16:04] <sil2100> Sweet!
[16:04] <didrocks> to mark a task DONE, just select the area you are interested in, and press the toogle menu
[16:04] <ogra_> that makes you even more of a ninja, no ?
[16:04] <didrocks> ogra_: let's say that, I just left the kubuntu ninja team (too many PPA FTBFS) :-)
[16:04] <didrocks> so yeah, please keep the spreadsheet updated
[16:05] <ogra_> haha
[16:05] <didrocks> second announcement, cupstream2distro changes:
[16:05] <didrocks> maybe you will see some prepare or publish job failing (until tomorrow)
[16:05] <didrocks> please just ping me
[16:05] <didrocks> the changes are:
[16:05] <didrocks> diff for published packages won't trigger a manual publishing again
[16:06] <didrocks> the generated diff for packaging will only contains the actual diff between distro and the new trunk
[16:06] <didrocks> (no more leftover of older debian/changelog or debian/*symbols from previous runs)
[16:06] <didrocks> the 2 steps diff is now applied (diffing from the bzr branch, then, rediffing the generated source file)
[16:07] <sil2100> Ah, ok
[16:07] <didrocks> if the first diff shows a change, and the second shows nothing apart debian/changelog without any interesting line
[16:07] <didrocks> it will put the prepare job in warning
[16:07] <Mirv> o/
[16:07] <didrocks> I'm sure Laney and kenvandine will like this :)
[16:07] <Mirv> sorry, a little late
[16:07] <didrocks> hey Mirv!
[16:07] <didrocks> Mirv: no worry, you will read the announcement afterwards :)
[16:07] <Mirv> hey all!
[16:07] <didrocks> and some better message commit for trunk
[16:08] <didrocks> so with all those changes, please ping me if anything fails :)
[16:08] <Mirv> the unity-tools seemed really neat :)
[16:08] <didrocks> (hopefully nothing)
[16:08] <didrocks> Mirv: if you have any suggestion for additional items that can be useful, just… suggest!
[16:08] <robru> didrocks, I don't seem to have access to lillypilly. can you check that my ssh key is authorized to connect?
[16:08] <didrocks> robru: you should have access to your account at least
[16:08] <didrocks> not the ubuntu-archive one :)
[16:08] <didrocks> robru: people.canonical.com, you can't access to it?
[16:09] <Laney> you have to jumphost through chinstrap
[16:09] <robru> hmmmmm
[16:09] <robru> no
[16:09] <didrocks> yeah, there is a wiki page for that, I'll ping you with the link
[16:09] <Laney> look for sshebang
[16:09] <didrocks> ok, last item as an announce…
[16:09] <didrocks> WIs!
[16:09] <sil2100> !
[16:09] <didrocks> please think about updating them :)
[16:10] <sil2100> Ohshit
[16:10] <didrocks> I'll do a check tomorrow afternoon, so you have 24 hours :)
[16:10] <didrocks> ok, let's move to the actual work now
[16:10] <didrocks> Mirv: want to start?
[16:10] <Mirv> yeah. so good stuff, qtsensors/qtsystems in, ubuntu-html5-theme in, qtcreator under testing
[16:11] <didrocks> \o/
[16:11] <Mirv> some sponsoring gotten, qtpim still waiting
[16:11] <didrocks> Mirv: waiting on sponsoring?
[16:11] <Mirv> didrocks: yep since yesterday as I got report from renato that it's tested and working
[16:12] <didrocks> Mirv: ok, I see it in the spreadsheet, I'll have a look
[16:12] <Mirv> not on the list, but I'm also working on Qt 5.1 review (PPA), and after I got the qtbase build issue figured out it's going quite well. but we've the QPA plugin thing (sil2100, welcome back from holiday!) which would be now nice during the next month, in time for 5.1.1
[16:12] <Mirv> s/review/preview/, for testing
[16:12] <Mirv> didrocks: thanks
[16:12] <didrocks> Mirv: great! and don't forget, we also handled the xorg transition last week together, was… *fun* :)
[16:12] <Mirv> that's it for the 3 Qt items on the sheet (plus 5.1)
[16:13] <seb128> Mirv, did you see that kenvandine said that the new qtsystems from the ppa makes system settings segfault on armhf?
[16:13] <Mirv> didrocks: oh yeah, that was.. interesting yes
[16:13] <sil2100> Mirv: I had some code for that, if you mean the appmenu-qt5 thing, will do some testing this week ;)
[16:13] <Mirv> seb128: I noticed, I'd like to test it also myself tomorrow, now I just got it compiled and installed on desktop
[16:13] <didrocks> sil2100: excellent :-)
[16:13] <Mirv> sil2100: yeah, that, excellent if promising progress :) no hurry at the moment, but it's good to know that there are no surprising blockers visible etc
[16:14] <didrocks> sil2100: welcome back! I asked you to review the 2 items on status for package cleaning and the new component for daily release, do you mind updating us on that? :)
[16:14] <sil2100> Mirv: all seems to be going in the right direction, although I consider the current approach more like a RND, but let's talk about that later ;)
[16:14] <didrocks> robru: you maybe want to complete as well, as you are leading that task (cleaning all the daily_release: False) ^
[16:14] <sil2100> Yep!
[16:15] <sil2100> I did a check of all the components with daily_release: False actually
[16:15] <seb128> Mirv, it's working on desktop for me as well, maybe it's a problem in the ofono code  (no ofono on the desktop so it probably doesn't try to use it there)
[16:15] <robru> didrocks, yeah, it seems sil2100 took over the daily_release stuff. my name is no longer listed in the spreadsheet as leading it. sorry :-(
[16:15] <sil2100> So, I'll publish that in a pastebinit, but in overall - many many components are basically ready but need some packaging reviews (like ubuntu-geoip, unity-greeter-session-broadcast, url-dispatcher and address-book-app)
[16:15] <sil2100> robru: :D
[16:16] <sil2100> robru: sorry about that :<
[16:16] <didrocks> robru: well, you are still listed and worked on that for that past weeks, so maybe you can help? ^ :)
[16:16] <robru> sil2100, it's ok, I am a bad leader.
[16:16] <kenvandine> Mirv, if you don't have a device to reproduce it on, i will happily test patches
[16:16] <sil2100> robru: I snatched it today, since I wanted to mark it with my urine like a dog
[16:16] <kenvandine> Mirv, i can also try to get a better stacktrace
[16:16] <kenvandine> sil2100, lol
[16:16] <sil2100> So that no one takes my pray from me...
[16:16] <didrocks> sil2100: ok, nice news, do you prefer handling that ourself and get the stack holders reviewing the changes?
[16:17] <sil2100> didrocks: I prepared one packaging review (MP is done) and another one ready, I'll be poking people for reviews
[16:17] <didrocks> sil2100: excellent, thanks!
[16:17] <Mirv> kenvandine: I do have my nexus4
[16:17] <kenvandine> Mirv, ok, cool
[16:17] <robru> sil2100, please poke me for some reviews, I would like to help
[16:17] <sil2100> As for the new components, I still didn't check the whole list, but I'll post an e-mail with my findings once I'm done
[16:18] <sil2100> robru: with pleasure! https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/ubuntu-geoip/packaging_review/+merge/173767
[16:18] <kenvandine> robru, i have a branch pending that'll autoland friends-app in the ubuntu-sdk ppa
[16:18] <kenvandine> fixing that issue we talked about yesterday
[16:18] <didrocks> sil2100: ok, on the packaging cleaning (http://paste.ubuntu.com/5741741/), last week, I did relist all the one that still need to apply the cleaning advise from the pastebin. emails for dealing with those is fine :)
[16:18] <robru> kenvandine, sweeeeet
[16:18] <didrocks> kenvandine: robru: Mirv: cyphermox: maybe before we receive this email, please look at F12, it didn't move since last week :-)
[16:19] <robru> kenvandine, it turns out that particular user who complained didn't even realize he had the PPA enabled, so he disabled it. but genereally, yeah, we'll want friends-app in that PPA to match for other raring users
[16:19] <didrocks> you all have packages on stack you are reponsible for AFAIK
[16:19] <kenvandine> maybe the sdk stack should run the friends-app autopilot tests
[16:19] <kenvandine> Mirv, ^^
[16:19] <robru> didrocks, F12! there's an F column? I have never seen this...
[16:19] <didrocks> kenvandine: sounds like a good idea :)
[16:19] <sil2100> That column is so far away that I missed it
[16:19] <didrocks> robru: well, it's juts after E :)
[16:20] <didrocks> yeah, I think we should clean more
[16:20] <didrocks> like all the DONE/MERGED
[16:20] <robru> didrocks, but it's scrolled off the edge of my screen! I never noticed the horizontal scrollbar in chromium...
[16:20] <didrocks> so that we don't get to W?
[16:20] <didrocks> wdyt guys? ^
[16:20] <robru> didrocks, cleaning is always good, but what needs cleaning?
[16:21] <Mirv> kenvandine: so that if friends-app breaks, sdk is halted? could be nice, although I'm not sure if it's any better than the current ui-toolkit's own autopilot tests?
[16:21] <Mirv> didrocks: right, thanks for pointing out that the F column is the new stuff :)
[16:21] <kenvandine> maybe... we did catch a regression that way
[16:21] <kenvandine> nevermind though... that was for raring :)
[16:21] <didrocks> robru: like the DONE/MERGED :)
[16:21] <didrocks> or SUPSEEDED
[16:21] <robru> Mirv, currently friends-app's autopilot tests are very basic. just tests that friends-app runs and then twiddles the toolbar. doesn't do anything super thorough. but it's a good start because we've had a couple issues with the sdk where the app wouldn't even start at all.
[16:21] <sil2100> I'm all for not using so many columns ;)
[16:22] <kenvandine> autolanding friends-app will fix that
[16:22] <didrocks> SUPERSEEDED*
[16:22] <sil2100> I prefer dividing it into smaller tasks
[16:22] <Mirv> robru: ok.
[16:22] <robru> didrocks, I guess I don't understand what you're asking.
[16:22] <didrocks> robru: see E12, I think we can remove its content for instance
[16:22] <Mirv> oh right, please remember that I'm again away for two weeks after this week
[16:23] <didrocks> Mirv: yeah, I checked the calendars, I think sil2100 will be "lucky" to get on your stack! :)
[16:23] <robru> didrocks, oh, you mean cleaning the spreadsheet itself. I thought you meant we needed to clean packages that were already marked as DONE. very confused.
[16:23] <Mirv> sil2100: the lucky one! :)
[16:23] <sil2100> :D
[16:23] <didrocks> robru: the action is "clean packages" that are listed in lines 12
[16:23] <sil2100> I'm happy to be the ONE
[16:23] <didrocks> then, we have to clean the spreadsheet ;)
[16:23] <didrocks> I'll make a pass at cleaning tomorrow the spreadsheet
[16:23] <didrocks> please clean the packages :p
[16:24] <didrocks> robru: ok, your turn! congrats to get friends daily-release, anything else to share?
[16:24] <robru> didrocks, yes, E12 info is very stale. but I think the ones marked SUPERCEDED are actually done (what they've been superceded by is already merged).
[16:25] <didrocks> robru: yep, I'll check the superseeded one
[16:25] <robru> didrocks, well I got app stack fixed. took quite a bit of upstream hassling to figure out the 56 test failures ;-)
[16:25] <didrocks> robru: what was it btw?
[16:26] <sil2100> \o/
[16:26] <robru> didrocks, oh, various bits of sdk breakage. some miscommunication between SDK team and notes-app team. osomon stepped up to fix everything when it was revealed that primary maintainer left for holiday without fixing things.
[16:27] <didrocks> ah "excellent" and "not good" in the same way :p
[16:27] <didrocks> robru: thanks for looking at those and getting that fixed :)
[16:27] <robru> no worries ;-)
[16:27] <didrocks> kenvandine: apart from system-settings, did you have time to look at libpam-freerdp new package and webcreds autopilot tests?
[16:27] <robru> didrocks, and the other big news items is that I finally landed friends-instagram, months overdue (was meant to be reviewing that before my holiday last month)
[16:27] <kenvandine> no
[16:27] <kenvandine> didrocks, can i run otto now?
[16:27] <kenvandine> or rather... got instructions for me?
[16:27] <didrocks> kenvandine: yeah, we can talk so that I can give you some tutorials :)
[16:28] <didrocks> robru: oh, nice for instagram! :)
[16:28] <didrocks> robru: this is daily releasing as well?
[16:28] <kenvandine> time to finish my instagram app!
[16:28] <didrocks> :)
[16:28] <robru> didrocks, yep. andrewsomething wrote some good tests for it and everything.
[16:28] <didrocks> excellent!
[16:28] <didrocks> kenvandine: let's check together tomorrow for otto, we can set that up :)
[16:29] <robru> next thing I want to do is land linkedin support, except for that I'll have to write my own tests because the author of the patch didn't.
[16:29] <Mirv> the next item there is what didier added about qtwebkit. arm build of qtwebkit seems to fail on saucy, maybe a toolchain issue.. and it's also left open because I linked the MIR tests required bug in there, and it's good to keep track of both issues
[16:29] <didrocks> yep ;)
[16:30] <didrocks> (don't talked about the qtwebkit MIR again *ever* please :p)
[16:30] <didrocks> talk*
[16:30] <didrocks> robru: good luck for the tests ;)
[16:30] <robru> thanks
[16:30] <didrocks> no cyphermox apparently, he didn't answer to my ping, not around?
[16:30] <Mirv> :P
[16:31] <didrocks> in addition to daily release update + some javascript fun, I work on Mir
[16:31] <didrocks> (not MIR)
[16:31] <didrocks> so unity8 entirely daily release now to a ppa
[16:31] <didrocks> (4 components in the stack)
[16:31] <sil2100> Awesome
[16:31] <didrocks> and the Mir stack (with lightdm, unity-greeter) is ready
[16:31] <didrocks> but there are some blockers on Mir itself
[16:31] <robru> sweeet
[16:31] <didrocks> tests not passing on some archs
[16:31] <didrocks> and a copy of google-mock embedded
[16:32] <didrocks> just to keep it short, updating and fixing google-mock to a newer version asked to fix the build system of 7 packages
[16:32] <didrocks> all are done but nux
[16:32] <didrocks> (and I don't want to touch autotools, lost too much time on this)
[16:32] <didrocks> bregma is updating it
[16:32] <didrocks> and we can land that new google-mock + all the merges for the new google-mock
[16:33] <didrocks> (we ship a copy of google-tests though, an updated version, inside google-mock)
[16:33] <didrocks> long story short, Mir will hopefully be soon in universe :)
[16:33] <didrocks> (pending on upstream and https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bugs?field.tag=entering-saucy)
[16:33] <didrocks> that's it, any question?
[16:33]  * bregma loves to wallow in autotools
[16:34] <didrocks> bregma: I loved it too, but after a full day just on that with cmake, I'm happy to spread the love :p
[16:34] <sil2100> \o/
[16:34] <sil2100> No questions
[16:35] <sil2100> hm, there's also one thing I would need help with
[16:35] <cyphermox> didrocks: yes, I'm around
[16:35] <didrocks> cyphermox: hey, any status update to share?
[16:35] <didrocks> cyphermox: and please backlog when you have time, there are status update and actions required ^
[16:35] <Mirv> no questions from this side
[16:36]  * sil2100 has one status update and request to share
[16:36] <cyphermox> didrocks: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/libhud-qt/binary-prio/+merge/171335
[16:36] <didrocks> cyphermox: excellent, mind adding that to the spreadsheet?
[16:37] <didrocks> I'll review that tomorrow
[16:37] <cyphermox> done
[16:37] <didrocks> cyphermox: any progress on indicator-network? is it daily releasing now?
[16:37] <cyphermox> I really need to get back to bluetooth now
[16:37] <cyphermox> yes
[16:37] <cyphermox> it did release a few days ago
[16:37] <didrocks> cyphermox: please mark it as done with the new toggle button :)
[16:37] <cyphermox> seeing as indicators went green today, I'm guessing it all released too
[16:37] <didrocks> cyphermox: thanks!
[16:38] <didrocks> ok, time to wrap up, then, sorry for the extra minutes! have a good week everyone :)
[16:38]  * didrocks press the archive buttons now :)
[16:38] <didrocks> sil2100: yep, how can I help you?
[16:38] <sil2100> For anyone that can help, I started cleaning up the packages: lists in stacks
[16:38] <sil2100> https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/clean_up_packages_lists/+merge/173539
[16:38] <sil2100> And I need some eyeballs there ;)
[16:39] <sil2100> (in some free time)
[16:39] <cyphermox> what toggle?
[16:39] <didrocks> cyphermox: see start of the meetting and the new "ubuntu-unity tools" menu, next to "help"
[16:40]  * Mirv successfully used archive button
[16:40] <didrocks> Mirv: heh, you can even reuse it multiple times a day :)
[16:40] <didrocks> (it won't restamp the date)
[16:41] <cyphermox> did we really need that to turn a row grey?
[16:41] <sil2100> But there are holes in the spreadsheet now!
[16:41] <didrocks> cyphermox: please suggest a better column to visually shows it's DONE :)
[16:41] <didrocks> sil2100: hum, I don't have any hole here?
[16:41] <cyphermox> that's not what I meant
[16:41] <sil2100> Oh, reloading helped
[16:41] <sil2100> Nevermind ;)
[16:41] <didrocks> s/column/color/
[16:45]  * didrocks waves good evening and good night
[16:45] <sil2100> o/
[16:51] <jbicha> tedg: could you repoke https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/hud/build-depend-on-valac-not-gir/+merge/168031
[16:51] <tedg> jbicha, Done
[16:52] <tedg> jbicha, It had a FTBFS in trunk from BAMF, so nothing HUD was building :-/
[16:52] <jbicha> I'm always happier when build failures aren't my fault :)
[16:55] <ctcb> I'm wondering, how exactly are directories made in Ubuntu, is it via a .sh file?
[16:56] <jbicha> attente: you're not using org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-input-source for indicator-keyboard are you?
[16:56] <Trevinho> tedg: the failure is due to the deprecation of bamf_application_get_application_menu... I've done that since it has never really been implemented...
[16:56] <attente> jbicha, no, using org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys for it
[16:56] <Trevinho> tedg: why is that used there?
[17:00] <jbicha> attente: please use the wm.keybindings one since the media-keys one was dropped in g-s-d 3.8
[17:00] <seb128> Trevinho, tedg: who should I bug about https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-appmenu/+bug/1197071
[17:00] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1197071 in indicator-appmenu (Ubuntu) "on_indicator_menu_show() called with a NULL entry" [Undecided,New]
[17:00] <seb128> tedg, Trevinho: is that bamf or indicator issue?
[17:01]  * Trevinho checking
[17:01] <Trevinho> seb128: it's an hard choice though since, as it's popularly known, both me and tedg write bugless code... :P
[17:01] <seb128> lol
[17:02] <jbicha> attente: although maybe we need to update that part of g-s-d too then
[17:02] <seb128> don't confuse tedg for njpatel
[17:02] <seb128> Trevinho, $ grep on_indicator_menu_show unity-panel-service.log | wc -l
[17:02] <seb128> 2986
[17:02] <seb128> fun ;-)
[17:02] <Trevinho> ehe
[17:02] <jbicha> attente: never mind then, it's something to think about later though
[17:02] <seb128> and I restarted this box this morning
[17:03] <seb128> jbicha, yeah, please don't mix gsd/gcc 3.8 stuff in the indicator-keyboard update, that's already hard enough to land it
[17:03] <Trevinho> it seems a non disconnected signal o r similar tough
[17:04] <tedg> seb128, Did we get the glib patch to report g_criticals?  We should try turning it on for unity-panel-service.
[17:04] <seb128> tedg, did that patch land in git upstream? I didn't track it
[17:04] <tedg> seb128, Me neither.  desrt ?
[17:08] <Laney> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=701800
[17:08] <ubot2`> Gnome bug 701800 in general "a new approach to reporting critical errors" [Normal,New]
[17:13]  * desrt remembers this bug
[17:14] <desrt> seb128: i got stuck because upstart was causing trouble here
[17:14] <desrt> reflecting back, i think maybe the best thing to do is require a envvar set when debugging
[17:14] <desrt> G_DEBUG-style
[17:30] <seb128> desrt, well, env is an issue because either it's a problematic options for normal users and we don't default to it, and very few users will opt-in ... or it's not a problem to use, in which case why not just turn it on
[17:30] <seb128> jbicha, attente, Laney: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-July/037462.html fyi
[17:30] <seb128> ibus 1.5 discussion
[17:31] <seb128> (that was overdue)
[17:31] <seb128> jbicha, did you guy have an ibus 1.5 in the ppa (just checking that attente doesn't redo work because he doesn't know that you guys have it somewhere)
[17:31] <desrt> seb128: i mean envvar to turn it off when you're debugging
[17:32] <seb128> desrt, oh, this way, I see
[17:34] <jbicha> seb128: no I haven't had ibus 1.5 in a ppa since last year
[17:35] <seb128> jbicha, ok
[20:22] <tedg> cyphermox_, So can I just use the nm API for most things and ignore the fact that oFono exists with your bridge?
[21:35] <cyphermox_> tedg: yup
[21:38] <tedg> cyphermox_, Cool
[23:03] <manish> jbicha_: I sent you a mail y'day