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mlankhorststgraber: could the MRE for xorg-server be documented on the wiki page? http://www.bryceharrington.org/files/xserver-mre.txt09:44
ScottKmlankhorst: You can document it, just reference the TB meeting minutes.09:47
mlankhorsthm seems someone beat me to it :)09:56
xnoxDo I need to get lucky with a panda to have cute build on armhf?11:14
xnoxor was there some tricks (use gcc-4.7?!) that got lost in saucy?11:15
LaneyIs p-m going to be notified of friends succeeding now?12:08
cjwatsonLaney: it should be12:17
stgrabermlankhorst: I added it after Sarvatt mentioned it in #ubuntu-meeting yesterday evening12:50
Laneycjwatson: Hmm, it's been a few hours now. Context: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#network-manager13:21
cjwatsonI: [Tue Jul  9 13:21:41 2013] - Collected autopkgtest status for friends_0.2.0+13.10.20130708.3-0ubuntu1: PASS13:25
cjwatsonI: [Tue Jul  9 13:21:41 2013] - Collected autopkgtest status for friends_0.2.0+13.10.20130708.2-0ubuntu1: FAIL13:25
cjwatsonjibel: ^- adt-britney appears to be incorrectly preferring the older-versioned result13:26
cjwatsonHm, wait, maybe that's not your end at fault13:26
cjwatsonjibel: ignore that :)13:27
* ogra_ always wondered why britney was picked as name ... you really expect her to be able to do math ? 13:27
cjwatsonI blame ajt13:28
* jibel ignores13:28
Laneyhow rude!13:28
gema_slangasek, cjwatson: I am going to be slightly delayed for our meeting today15:06
gema_I will ping you whenever I am available (for some reason I cannot reschedule it on the calendar)15:07
ogra_cjwatson, so since we constantly seem to have broken touch images and there doesnt seem to be any automated testing either, could we probably not automatically populate /current, have them sit in /pending until someone manually triggers them to current ... so we can at least do manual testing15:10
ogra_(the images get worse every day and nobody seems to catch it atm)15:10
* ogra_ has not much clue how the /pending -> /current migration works atm15:11
ogra_(and if we could intercept there somehow with not much work)15:11
ogra_rsalveti, ^^^ FYI15:13
cjwatsonLaney: oops, I seem to have broken p-m in my attempts to fix this and not noticed.  fixing15:14
* cjwatson dons the idiot hat15:14
Laneyheh, I didn't notice either :P15:14
cjwatsonogra_: Sure, on the condition that you use 'mark-current' to update it rather than fiddling with symlinks by hand15:15
ogra_i'll take a look at "mark-current', np ...15:18
cjwatsonmark-current -p ubuntu-touch -s saucy -t daily-preinstalled -a armhf BUILD-ID15:19
ogra_yeah, just reading the help here15:19
cjwatsonsorry,  -i daily-preinstalled  not -t15:19
* ogra_ notes down the command15:19
cjwatsonmark-current -p ubuntu-touch -s saucy -i daily-preinstalled -a armhf BUILD-ID15:19
slangasekgema_: ack, thanks for the heads-up15:22
cjwatsonLaney: fixed, I *think*, although oddly it seems to have forgotten about friends being caused by network-manager15:23
cjwatsonother tests look right though15:23
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cjwatsonah, maybe the later friends wasn't caused by network-manager15:24
LaneyLikely, but its previous failure was blocking n-m15:24
cjwatsonso I guess that was a bit wrong, I should have aggregated the causes but taken the latest status15:24
Laneyso I'd have thought it should take any newer results that come in15:24
cjwatsondone that now, though it's too late to see it in action for n-m15:26
LaneyHrm, gtk+3.0 went in too - that was being blocked by software-center15:26
cjwatsonsorry :(15:26
cjwatsonfuture runs should be saner15:27
LaneyAh well15:27
LaneyI'll still finish making that pass15:27
Laneyper upstream's definition of fixing ...15:27
cjwatsonogra_: I've marked ubuntu-touch/saucy/daily-preinstalled/armhf as trigger-controlled, even though there isn't a jenkins trigger set up for it yet; "triggering" it manually will be just as good15:28
ogra_thanks !15:28
ogra_that will helpo a lot15:28
cjwatsonI hope that takes the heat off you from Rick :)15:28
ogra_yeah, me too15:29
ogra_first we need a working image again :)15:29
cjwatsonalthough his point that batching up technical debt is costly remains valid15:29
ogra_unity kind of comes up empty today15:29
ogra_oh, be assured, if i have to do the testing for more than two weeks i'll ask for the QA teams salary being added to mine :P15:30
ogra_i admire everyones aim for perfection but after all we need to kind of get *something* to work even if its not perfect15:31
infinityPerfection isn't possible in software.  Striving for correctness is still a sane thing, though.15:32
infinity(Not that I know which tech debt we're referring to here, but "temporary hacks" have a habit of living on for years, so we're probably better off putting the time in to do it right the first time)15:33
ogra_infinity, ture, but something is still more than nothing (and blocking the world)15:33
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