[00:01] <ScottK> jamespage: Do we have a documented openssl exception for mongodb now?
[00:02] <sarnold> akurilin2: /etc/apache2 might be Good Enough
[00:04] <akurilin2> sarnold, cool, thank you.
[01:36] <Senor> my ubuntu command line is not aligned to left ,what is the reason?
[01:39] <marcoceppi> Senor: screenshot?
[01:43] <Senor> marcoceppi:command line start at the middle of the screen ,does it need i install vga driver?
[01:43] <Senor> like this :
[01:43] <marcoceppi> Senor: you shouldn't need to, how are you connecting to the machine?
[01:44] <Senor> I login directly from physical machine
[01:45] <Senor> not by  remote access
[01:45] <marcoceppi> Senor: just at console, or do you have a desktop package installed?
[01:45] <Senor> no
[01:45] <Senor> since it is used as a server
[01:46] <marcoceppi> Yeah, I don't think you'll need any graphics packages. I'm curious what the photo looks like
[01:46] <sarnold> Senor: is this a CRT or an LCD? hooked up over VGA or DVI?
[01:46] <Senor>                                                      Senor:~#abcd
[01:46] <Senor> efg
[01:47] <Senor> just like that
[01:49] <Senor> marcoceppi:Do you have mothod to fix it ?
[01:51] <Senor> or Does it reply on some configurations ?
[02:01] <marcoceppi> Senor: what happens when you type reset?
[02:04] <Senor> marcoceppi:it just clear the screen
[02:04] <sarnold> Senor: is this a CRT or an LCD? hooked up over VGA or DVI?
[02:06] <Senor> i am not clear of that ,how does I check for that?
[02:07] <sarnold> does the monitor weigh two kilograms or fifteen kilograms? :)
[02:08] <sarnold> for the connector, well, you'll probably just have tofind the cable on the back of the computer and look at it to see if it is a VGA connector or a DVI connector
[02:09] <Senor> ok
[02:09] <sarnold> VGA was complicated, the video cards output the signal for pixels as the crt scanned from top-to-bottom, left-to-right
[02:09] <sarnold> it outputs video signal while scanning across, and turns off when the electron beam is sent back to the other side of the display -- and again when moving from bottom right corner to upper left corner
[02:10] <sarnold> as a result, it was very easy for displays to be shifted, squashed, stretched, or even "wrapped around" by the correct monitor settings or video card settings
[02:11] <ScottK> In fairness, that's exactly how CRTs work in hardware, so it made sense at the time.
[02:11] <sarnold> if you're lucky, you just fiddle with the controls on the front of the monitor. but if the monitor is used with multiple machines, and can't store settings for multiple video cards, you might need to change the way the video is output from the machine...
[02:11] <Senor> how does I change that?
[02:11] <sarnold> ScottK: definitely, it drastically simplified the CRT hardware, and usually some simple controls were enough to fix it, and fix it just once..
[02:13] <sarnold> Senor: you could fiddle with the monitor knobs directly
[02:13] <sarnold> Senor: or you could try adding vga=ask to your kernel command line, try different vga settings, and find one that works better
[02:14] <Senor> sarnold:If I add nomodset to kernel command line ,it output as normal
[02:15] <sarnold> Senor: oh! hurray. :)
[02:15] <sarnold> Senor: I was going to aim you at Documentation/fb/modedb.txt in the kernel sources if vga= .. didn't fix it. but that sounds good too. :)
[02:17] <Senor> But I really do not know meaning of nomodset
[02:17] <Senor> I google it
[02:26] <vexed___> can anyone give me a hint on how to install ubuntu (server) on KVM ?  I try to do virsh console guest and it hangs at the prompt.  vrish ttyconsole shows /dev/pts/3
[02:26] <Senor> sarnold:thanks anyway
[02:26] <sarnold> Senor: sure thing :) have fun!
[02:30] <thesheff17> vexed___, I would try virt-manager
[02:31] <vexed___> that won't work, no X here.  Only console.
[02:31] <thesheff17> well virt-manager works across a machine if you have X on another
[02:31] <thesheff17> it can connect over SSH
[02:31] <thesheff17> or forward X
[02:31] <vexed___> Hmmm, never tried that before.
[02:31] <thesheff17> to your local
[02:51] <brad100> hello
[02:53] <brad100> hello?
[02:53] <sarnold> brad100: hello :) irc tends to be quiet until someone asks a question..
[02:54] <sarnold> (if all 200-odd people rpelied to every "hello", not much else would get said :)
[02:54] <brad100> oh ok, so i just set up my very own email server and i cant recieve any emails at all
[02:54] <brad100> and google gives me an error when i try to send emails to it
[02:54] <brad100> can you help?
[02:55] <sarnold> brad100: sending and receiving are often very different things, it'd make sense to focus on one at a time
[02:55] <brad100> ok
[02:55] <sarnold> brad100: do you have any error messages in the log files that look relevant?
[02:55] <brad100> i want to work on receiving
[02:56] <brad100> nope
[02:56] <brad100> im checking /var/log/mail.log
[02:56] <brad100> but there is nothing
[02:57] <brad100> im using dovecot to receive mail
[02:59] <sarnold> brad100: dovecot is probably how your client retrieves mail from a server; probably postfix or exim is broken if you're having trouble sending mail to your new server
[03:01] <brad100> ohhhhh, yeah i found the errors. Virtual_alias_maps  map lookup  problems seems to pop up a lot
[03:01] <sarnold> yay :) now you've got a loose string to pull
[03:02] <brad100> nice, now what do i do ? xD
[03:02] <sarnold> brad100: check the pathname you gave to the maps, see if it is (a) there (b) readable by the server (c) well-formatted (d) contains the data you need it to contain...
[03:03] <brad100> yep youre right its a postfix thing too. uhh could you walk me through that please?
[03:03] <sarnold> sorry, time for me to get some dinner and walk the dog :)
[03:04] <brad100> ok well thank you so much for youre help
[03:04] <sarnold> brad100: there's Way Too Much documentation on postfix in both the manpages and the postfix.org site -- and who knows, someone who knows postfix may just show up soon..
[03:04] <sarnold> brad100: have fun and good luck :)
[03:04] <brad100> thanks ill need it xD
[03:05] <sarnold> :)
[03:10] <brad100> uhhh anybody else here who can help me?
[03:15] <wxl> anyone around know how i can autostart wifi on boot?
[03:16] <brad100> my server already does that
[03:16] <brad100> wxl
[03:17] <wxl> brad100: i'm convinced i know how to set it up in general but i'm wondering if the hidden ssid isn't a complication
[03:17] <brad100> yeah that might be
[03:17] <brad100> idk
[03:18] <wxl> i assume you have auto wlan0 etc. in /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:22] <brad100> yep
[03:24] <wxl> i should just stop being stubborn, unhide the thing and see what happens :)
[03:24] <vexed___> thanks thesheff17 ssh -X works with this.
[03:24] <brad100> @wxl yes do that
[03:24] <thesheff17> vexed___, cool glad it worked
[03:24] <brad100> doo itt
[03:31] <wxl> well that did it
[03:31] <wxl> now if i can just figure out how to get around it… ;)
[05:27] <Guest58432> I just install ubuntu-server and install mailutils packages,now can send mail ,but can't recipent mail. wo can help me?
[05:39] <brad100> good luck
[05:39] <brad100> i tried to set up a mail server and i still need help
[05:59] <xirre> Hi, I was looking around and just could not find words on how to express this question in a  search format. I'm looking for a program that would allow a user, typically one running a server, the ability to place processes in a depressed state while keeping certain processes running normal to save power. More like a sleep mode that "dreams" about a specific thing which in this case would be the server and the internet.
[06:01] <xirre> .
[06:46] <jamespage> ScottK, not yet
[06:50] <jamespage> ScottK, whilst we are talking about this; do you have an opinion on what needs to be done to make things good for raring once the license exception is documented?
[06:51] <jamespage> I expect the licensing changes to land into the current devel releases - is that sufficient or would we need to add something to the package in raring to document this
[07:45] <Niaobu> Hi, I'm trying to setup an old laptop as a headless server running ubuntu server 12.04. The laptop has a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 graphics card which is producing a lot of heat when it should be doing nothing. Temperatures reach 80C when all that is running is a single ssh session. Temperatures are low when running windows etc. Is there anything I can do to control the gpu?
[08:10] <jamespage> Niaobu, yes - let me dig the option out for you
[08:16] <jamespage> Niaobu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5857743/
[08:16] <jamespage> thats an upstart configuration I used to force the card into low power mode
[08:16] <Niaobu> jamespage: thanks! I'll try that.
[08:26] <jamespage> ScottK, also I'm assuming the backport I requested for mongodb 2.2.4 + SSL to 12.04/12.10 is blocked on resolution of this issue as well?
[08:26] <jamespage> https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantal-backports/+bug/1168389
[08:55] <psivaa> jdstrand: i have just updated bug #1197484 with the answers to your questions.
[08:57] <psivaa> jdstrand: i see you are finding it difficult to reproduce. I could show the error if you are able to log into the server in our lab, if that's ok
[09:17] <vlad_starkov> Question: What PAM module do you use for authenticating vsftpd users?
[09:46] <ScottK> jamespage: I think that as long it's documented in the devel release, that's sufficient.  Do we have a timeframe for resolution?  Given the TB decision, I think that it ought not remain SSL enabled for long without the exception.
[09:46] <ScottK> I hadn't looked at that request, so I hadn't blocked on that, but unless it's urgent for other reasons, perhaps waiting does make sense.
[10:12] <davegarath> Hi all, I have a little problem with nfs on ubuntu 12.04. I have to do strange conf: I have to mount a nfs share from the same server that export it ( sorry for my bad eng :P ). When I do I/O on the mounted nfs this hang and load average grows to 10
[10:28] <itarchitectkev> hey folks, I'm having fails on installing rabbitmq-server on 12.04. can haz helpz please?
[10:29] <itarchitectkev> I've purged, reran update, same errs: http://paste.openstack.org/show/39808/
[10:36] <jamespage> ScottK, OK - my understanding is that the exception in the licensing is signed off internally upstream; its just waiting for engineering resource to implement into the codebase
[10:43] <Niaobu> jamespage: I pasted that script into a new file in /etc/init and it seems to work. I rebooted and the temperature seems to stay at 70C which is lower, but still pretty useless. Do you have any other suggestions?
[10:44] <jamespage> Niaobu, hmm
[10:44] <jamespage> Niaobu, is it the CPU or GPU which is running hot?
[10:44] <jamespage> (sensors would tell you on most systems)
[10:44] <jamespage> reason I ask is I just tested that script on my old laptop with is also ATI based
[10:44] <jamespage> and it did the trick
[10:44] <ScottK> jamespage: If they could put an announcement on their web site or something, that would be enough.
[10:45] <jamespage> ScottK, ack - I'll see what can be done
[10:45] <Niaobu> gpu is running hot. the cpu is at about 40C
[10:46] <jamespage> Niaobu, hmm
[10:46] <jamespage> Niaobu, can you cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile please
[10:46] <jamespage> just to make sure the change did apply
[10:46] <Niaobu> it reads low
[10:47] <Niaobu> i havent done anything with drivers for the gfx card. this is a fresh ubuntu server 12.04 install
[10:54] <jamespage> Niaobu, might be a kernel difference - I'm using the 3.10 kernel on saucy
[10:55] <Niaobu> saucy is 13.04?
[10:56] <Niaobu> this seems to be 3.5.0
[10:57] <Niaobu> I'll try wirh 13.04 then
[10:57] <ivoks> saucy is 13.10
[11:06] <jamespage> Niaobu, its possible to install newer kernels on 12.04
[11:07] <Niaobu> oh, ok. I'll try that first then
[11:09] <jamespage> Niaobu, see linux-generic-lts-raring
[11:09] <jamespage> for example
[11:11] <Niaobu> ok. that's kernel 3.8, right?
[11:14] <Niaobu> installed 3.8 and rebooted. it rebooted at 70C, but i'll give it a couple of minutes
[11:21] <seiflotfy_> hi guys
[11:21] <seiflotfy_> i am trying to install ubuntu-minimal with a preseed
[11:21] <seiflotfy_> i am booting it as follows
[11:21] <seiflotfy_> linux vga=788 initrd=initrd.gz -- quiet preseed/url=http://some/path/to/preseed.cfg
[11:22] <seiflotfy_> first question: What happens if the url is not available?
[11:22] <seiflotfy_> nm that is answered now
[11:32] <Niaobu> jamespage: it's still at 70C
[11:33] <jamespage> Niaobu, not sure then - sorry...
[11:33] <Niaobu> no problem. thanks for your help
[11:34] <Niaobu> i'm almost at the point where I'm considering installing windows for the drivers and running ubuntu in a vm :/
[11:39] <jamespage> Niaobu, this is just running server right?
[11:39] <Niaobu> yeah.
[12:16] <Siebjee> Does any one know if you can see which data is going into /dev/null ?
[12:18] <asac> smoser: seems stuff is moving towards green again :) ... nice ... what was the reason for the server dashboard bustage?
[12:18] <asac> ah jamespage  :)
[12:18] <smoser> yeah, jamespage fixed that.
[12:18] <smoser> the ec2 tests still needt to be fixed
[12:26] <zul> jamespage:  we should probably rename the quantum jobs to neurtron
[12:26] <jamespage> zul, you got a plan for that yet?
[12:27] <jamespage> i.e. the name transition
[12:27] <jamespage> zul, has the upstream repo been renamed yet?
[12:27] <zul> jamespage:  i have a branch that renames everything for neutron that i had pending after the rename
[12:27] <zul> jamespage:  yes
[12:27] <zul> jamespage:  i was going to work on packaging things today btw
[12:27] <koolhead17> zul: jamespage & in next release all the pkg names will too get changed to neutorn?
[12:28] <jamespage> zul, good-oh
[12:28] <jamespage> koolhead17, yes
[12:28] <zul> koolhead17:  yes
[12:28] <zul> jamespage:  ill just need someone to review the MP when im ready
[12:29] <koolhead17> jamespage: zul cool. would be handy if a blog comes with existing & rename. :)
[12:29] <zul> koolhead17:  uh huh
[12:29] <jamespage> koolhead17, OKies
[12:29] <jamespage> we'll make sure that happens
[12:29] <koolhead17> thanks jamespage
[12:30] <koolhead17> zul: better start putting some post on your blog
[12:30]  * koolhead17 hides
[12:31] <smoser> utlemming, could you look at the ec2 tests sometime today. i'm looking  at https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/ec2%20AMI%20Testing/view/Overview/job/raring-server-ec2-daily/ARCH=i386,REGION=us-east-1,STORAGE=ebs,TEST=simple-user-data,label=ubuntu-server-ec2-testing/73/console
[12:32] <smoser> and it appears to me that the trace there is from a version of ubuntu-server-ec2-testing that is in a PPA at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-ec2-testing-dev/+archive/testing/+packages
[12:33] <smoser> it also appears to me trunk (lp:ubuntu-server-ec2-testing) is fixed.
[12:33] <koolhead17> hola Daviey
[12:33] <smoser> so maybe all we need to do is upload a new version to the ppa and update whatever system is running that code
[12:42] <jamespage> zul, is the newer version of sqlalchemy in saucy going to break stuff in openstack?
[12:43] <zul> jamespage:  yes
[12:43] <zul> jamespage:  how do you think i get my fun then? :)
[12:43] <jamespage> zul, lol
[12:44] <koolhead17> ahem
[12:44] <koolhead17> i saw zigo<deb guy> coming up with some soln in the list, it seems
[12:50] <jamespage> zul, any objection if I do a mass update of branches for the lab so that the VCS fields point to the correct locations?
[12:50] <jamespage> (seeking a pre-ack)
[12:50] <zul> jamespage:  nope
[13:02] <jamespage> koolhead17, I can't see that?
[13:02] <jamespage> (re name changing)
[13:03] <koolhead17> jamespage: cool
[13:14] <zul> jamespage/roaksoax:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-neutronclient/rename/+merge/173715 (quantumclient renaming)
[13:16] <jamespage> zul, can you rebase that on the Vcs changes I just pushed please
[13:17] <jamespage> zul, also merged in infinities direct distro changes for glance and nova
[13:17] <zul> jamespage:  ack
[13:17] <jamespage> hopefully the Vcs fixes will prevent that happening going forwards
[13:18] <zul> jamespage:  done
[13:21] <jamespage> zul,  you need to add transitional packages no?
[13:21] <zul> jamespage:  do i?
[13:21] <zul> jamespage:  *sigh*
[13:21] <jamespage> zul, otherwise upgrades will break
[13:21] <zul> jamespage:  *sigh*
[13:21]  * zul shakes his fist
[13:23] <jamespage> zul, watch file also needs an update
[13:23] <zul> jamespage:  ack
[13:23] <jamespage> I think - I'm assuming they renamed the LP projects?
[13:24] <jamespage> rbasak, infinity fixed up the golang armhf headers issue with a patch
[13:25] <zul> jamespage:  done
[13:33] <zul> jamespage:  feel free to +1 neutronclient
[13:48] <rbasak> jamespage: ack. He's here at Linaro Connect - we've been talking about it.
[13:48] <rbasak> jamespage: there's more work needed if we need to backport golang 1.1. Do we need to do that?
[13:48] <jamespage> rbasak, good-oh - I also uploaded 1.1.1 post that fix to get things rolling with juju-core
[13:48] <jamespage> rbasak, yes we do
[13:49] <jamespage> (need to backport that is)
[13:58] <koolhead17> jamespage: can you point me testing repo 4 cloud archive
[13:58] <koolhead17> which has havana pkgs
[13:59] <jamespage> koolhead17, the cloud-archive is probably best place to go right now
[14:00] <jamespage> koolhead17, I pushed b1 into the updates pocket last night - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/CloudArchive
[14:00] <koolhead17> jamespage: am in openstack meeting & now openstack-doc becomes a project. so need to work on how release install doc same day havana comes out
[14:00] <jamespage> koolhead17, OK
[14:06] <jamespage> koolhead17, I remember committing to writing some docs for OpenStack + Ubuntu + Juju and reviewing the full install instructions in portland
[14:06] <jamespage> but I've not done anything yet
[14:06] <koolhead17> jamespage: well i have always done that but not with Juju :(
[14:07] <koolhead17> i will create new branch and start pushing install doc for havana/OS so the day havana releases we have a install doc
[14:09] <jamespage> zul, when will all project converge on using the neutronclient?
[14:10] <jamespage> we need to time uploads with that otherwise everything will break big time
[14:10] <zul> jamespage:  i think its starting now
[14:11] <jamespage> zul, we need to audit the repo's in the lab with whats in staging for havana/precise as well
[14:11] <jamespage> I'm assuming its got out of sync with all the new backports we are doing.
[14:11] <koolhead17> jamespage: zul just let me know when is the write time to start documenting havana based isntall steps
[14:11] <zul> jamespage:  projects have been renamed but things like nova are still using quantumclient
[14:13] <zul> jamespage:  yeah
[14:13] <zul> koolhead17:  yeah
[14:14] <zul> jamespage:  maybe we should add Provides: python-quantumclient as wel since things like nova hasnt been updated yet
[14:27] <jamespage> zul, yeah - but that won't work as the package namespace has changed internally
[14:27] <jamespage> nova will try to import 'quantum' and it won't find nothing
[14:27] <jamespage> so Provides: python-quantumclient != True
[14:27] <zul> jamespage:  frig
[14:28] <jamespage> zul, we could not add the transitional package right now
[14:28] <jamespage> and then we can manage it with both in the archive at the same time
[14:28] <jamespage> if that makes sense
[14:28] <zul> jamespage:  true
[14:28] <jamespage> once all deps on python-quantumclient have been switched, then add the transitional package for client tooling only upgrades
[14:29] <zul> jamespage:  ok ill drop the transitional stuff from my branch then and then re-added when stuff like nova gets updated
[14:30] <rbasak> jamespage: what do you think about bug subscriptions as mentioned in bug 1197896? These aren't really "server" packages per se - just dependencies of puppet. Do we usually step up and subscribe/manage bugs for packages like these?
[14:30] <jamespage> rbasak, yes
[14:31] <rbasak> jamespage: please can you subscribe ~ubuntu-server to those then please?
[14:32] <jamespage> rbasak, ack
[14:34] <jamespage> rbasak, done
[14:37] <rbasak> THanks!
[14:40] <zul> jamespage:  should be ok now
[14:42] <jamespage> zul, OK - one final thing I think
[14:42] <jamespage> Conflicts: python-quantumclient ( << 1:2.2.0-0ubuntu1 )
[14:42] <jamespage> Replaces: quantum-client, python-quantumclient ( << 1:2.2.0-0ubuntu1 )
[14:42] <jamespage> 1:2.2.0-0ubuntu1 -> 1:2.2.0-0ubuntu1~ otherwise we break stuff in the cloud-archive backports
[14:43] <jamespage> actually lemme think about that again
[14:43] <jamespage>  python-quantumclient ( <=1:2.2.0-0ubuntu1 )
[14:43] <jamespage> zul, I think thats right?
[14:43] <zul> jamespage:  looks like it
[14:44] <jamespage> it would be << 1:2.2.4.2.g037497d-0ubuntu1~
[14:44] <zul> gotcha
[14:46] <zul> jamespage:  pushed for review
[14:48] <jamespage> zul, apologies - you need to use Breaks/Replaces
[14:48] <jamespage> http://wiki.debian.org/Renaming_a_Package
[14:48] <jamespage> rather than Conflicts/Replaces
[14:49] <zul> jamespage:  done
[14:50] <jamespage> zul, hrm double "<< <<"
[14:50] <jamespage> zul, can we drop the quantum-client from replaces as well?
[14:51] <zul> jamespage:  done
[15:01] <zul> jamespage:  we need a way to prevent tox from downloading stuff from the internet while running tests
[15:02] <jamespage> zul, egress filtering!
[15:03] <zul> jamespage:  nah i was thinking of patching tox.ini
[15:04] <jamespage> zul, yes - see MP
[15:04] <zul> jamespage:  cool thanks
[15:12] <Daviey> kirkland: There is a screen merge begging for your help btw.. :)
[15:21] <SpamapS> zul: PIP_INDEX_URL -> black hole
[15:21] <kirkland> Daviey: oh, lovely
[15:21] <kirkland> Daviey: has it been started yet?
[15:22] <zul> SpamapS/jamespage: ripped from python-tox http://paste.ubuntu.com/5858703/
[15:23] <SpamapS> zul: yeah, same difference :)
[15:25] <Daviey> kirkland: nope, we've been keeping it warm for you :-)
[15:25] <kirkland> Daviey: oh, thanks for saving it for me
[15:25] <kirkland> Daviey: I see it hasn't been touched in ages
[15:27] <Daviey> kirkland: Does the delta still make sense?
[15:35] <kirkland> Daviey: hopefully most of it can go away
[15:42] <jamespage> jdstrand, re bug 1187262; did my response about v8, embedding and potential attack surfaces make sense?
[15:44] <jdstrand> jamespage: yes, I thought I responded, I will do so now
[15:44] <jamespage> jdstrand, thanks
[16:00] <TheSov> I need a little help with logrotate, I have an ubuntu server and i needed to run logrotate on my syslogd, but it only runs correctly the first time, and syslog stops collecting data
[16:00] <TheSov> i dont think logrotate is properly restarting syslog
[16:09] <erictr1ck>  I'm trying up change the upload_max_filesize in Ubuntu 12.10 but no matter what I do it stays at 2M. I have changed upload_max_filesize in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini, /etc/php5/cgi/php.ini, and /etc/php5/cli/php.ini and also restarted apache. What could I be doing wrong?
[17:24] <mustafa> hi i have a problem with my www directory it says 550 permission denid whenever i want to transfer files to ...any idea
[17:29] <resno> what server you using?
[17:29] <resno> and what type of files?
[17:30] <resno> mustafa: ^
 yes ...have you got any solve for this
[17:31] <resno> i asked you questions above
 iam using ubuntu and any file (hole file ,img, etc....)
 using sftp over vsftpd
[17:33] <resno> where are you seeing the 550?
[17:34] <roasted> Hello friends. I noticed at home when pulling a large (1GB+) file over samba and wireless, my connection seems to continually drop halfway through. It just stalls and that's it. At work on the same machine, things are great. I'm beginning to wonder if it's something with my server (guess it could be my router too). Anybody have any insight to throw on the table?
[17:35] <wxl> roasted: anecdotally, i find that wireless is inconsistent over the long run. i betcha if you were wired, you'd have no problem
[17:35] <resno> basically
[17:35] <sarnold> mustafa: are you certain about sftp over vsftpd? I didn't think vsftpd did sftp...
[17:35] <roasted> wxl: I have no problems wired. and I agree with you, I just find it disturbing that *every* transfer I do over wireless at home, it tanks, but at work it's absolutely fine.
[17:35] <resno> sarnold: 550 is an apache error. right?
[17:36] <roasted> thing is, I find it foolish to go inside to plug in to pull a large ISO when I'm on the deck and planning to sit out there for another 3 hours anyway
[17:36] <sarnold> resno: sounds a bit like an internal server error, yeah
[17:36] <wxl> roasted: it is for this reason i don't really use wifi for production. i use it to set things up but that's about it.
[17:36] <sarnold> resno: oh! ftp error code, 550 Requested action not taken.
[17:36] <roasted> wxl: thanks, but that doesn't really get me anywhere closer to finding out what could be the root cause of this issue.
[17:37] <resno> sarnold: he said 550 permission denied
[17:37] <sarnold> resno: yeah. ftp error message.
[17:38] <resno> so what im trying to do is create a user that can do access root files, but no other root abilities
[17:38] <resno> this user will be for backing up using rsync
[17:40] <sarnold> resno: you could create a new user, set their shell to be the script that does the backup, set their uid to 0, and put an apparmor profile on their shell that grants "capability dac_read_search," and /** r, and the'll be able to read any file on the system but not load modules, modify files ,etc
[17:41] <sarnold> resno: you'll probably want to grant /usr/bin/rsync ix, and rsync might need write access somewhere too..
[17:41] <resno> sarnold: im presently going to login from a remote machine and doit.. does this still apply
[17:41] <sarnold> resno: yes
[17:41] <resno> cool
[18:15] <NomadJim> is this still a legit way to get the up to date version of node? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7214474/how-to-keep-up-with-the-latest-versions-of-nodejs-in-ubuntu-ppa-compiling
[18:16] <NomadJim> i meant - http://stackoverflow.com/a/7214700
[18:18] <zul> Daviey:  python-oslo.sphinx uploaded
[18:22] <Daviey> zul: ok, will review it either later tonight or tomorrow
[18:23] <zul> Daviey:  ack
[18:49] <zul> adam_g:  ill get keystoneclient 0.3.1 uploaded today
[18:49] <adam_g> zul, nice
[19:17] <Daviey> smoser: Any idea why I am seeing this, http://pb.daviey.com/Hx2F/ on a cloud image?
[19:18] <zul> adam_g/roaksoax: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-keystoneclient/0.3.1/+merge/173795
[19:18] <smoser> no. that sucks.
[19:18] <smoser> utlemming, ^
[19:47] <cortexman> i'm having a hard time getting Lucid to take a static ip address. i've got precise doing it using just the network settings gui
[19:48] <cortexman> however lucid keeps getting a dynamic ip. in precise I had to add sudo dhclient eth0 to /etc/rc.local. i did the same in lucid, and I also specified the ip, netmask and gateway
[19:49] <cortexman> in precise dhclient causes it to work. in lucid dhclient changes the static ip seen in ifconfig to a dynamic ip
[19:49] <cortexman> anyone?
[21:09] <mgw> is there a tool for querying dhcp for an available IP without actually taking out a lease?
[21:11] <sarnold> mgw: if I'm reading page #13 correctly ... http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2131.txt
[21:11] <sarnold> mgw: .. a DHCPDISCOVER without a followup DHCPREQUEST is more or less what you want
[21:12] <mgw> sarnol: thanks
[21:12] <mgw> sarnold: ^
[21:12] <mgw> as an alternative, how can I ensure that once a lease has been obtained, the IP will not change?
[21:12] <mgw> which is my actual goal
[21:13] <sarnold> configure your dhcp server for insanely long lease times?
[21:13] <mgw> will that persist over a dhcp server restart?
[21:13] <sarnold> some will, yeah
[21:14] <mgw> I was going to use OMAPI to create host objects
[21:14] <mgw> But then I have the problem of finding a free IP
[21:20] <mgw> sarnold: I've also seen some mixed info on whether host objects created with OMAPI will survive a dhcpd restart; do you know?
[21:20] <sarnold> mgw: sorry, well outside of my experience :)
[21:22] <mgw> sarnold: np, thanks!
[22:00] <theazman_> Hi everyone, I'm looking for a web based onenote replacement that we can host on our servers. We have to be able to drag and drop photos in? Any suggestions? I have looked at a ton of them.
[22:01] <e-DIO-t> theazman_ evernote ?
[22:01] <e-DIO-t> ah no, evernote's not web based .
[22:10] <Corey> e-DIO-t: It can be!
[22:10] <Corey> You just can't self host it.
[22:13] <sarnold> theazman: look for CMSes with 'drag and drop content" on cmsmatrix.org ..
[22:27] <cortexman> I have tried /etc/modules, /etc/modprobe.conf, /etc/modprobe/alsa_dummy.conf, yet I cannot get ubuntu to load a set of kernel modules on reboot.
[22:27] <cortexman> anyone?
[23:52] <delinquentme> FOAR all those in here who would consider themselves hardcore server maintainers ... Any chance someone might have compiled a list of ReallyBadIdeas™  double points for anything specific to ubuntu
[23:52] <delinquentme> I've got a server which has grown organically ... and I know what I"m used to seeing ... but I need to pick out what things are actually critical issues vrs non-compliant
[23:52] <sarnold> delinquentme: if I see one more person recommending "chmod -R 777 ..." as a solution or troubleshooting tip, I think I'll go mental...
[23:53] <sarnold> aha :)
[23:53] <delinquentme> hahah
[23:53] <delinquentme> this is true
[23:53] <delinquentme> surely there is a script which I could run which would just go through every file and report back what is chmodded as 777
[23:54] <delinquentme> ... im thinking that would be a pipe to find or locate?
[23:54] <sarnold> I think find / -perm 777   would do it
[23:55] <sarnold> oh heck, that also finds symlinks. oops.
[23:55] <delinquentme> sarnold, i've never seen the / before
[23:55] <Pici> find takes a path as the first argument
[23:56] <delinquentme> oh hio Pici o/
[23:56] <delinquentme> just OOC has anyone taken a toll of what kind of applications you guys here are deploying?
[23:57] <delinquentme> Soo what files SHOULD be 777
[23:57] <sarnold> yay on my system, find / -mode 777 -type f     and find -mode 777 -type d   both return no results :) that'd be a decent enough period check...
[23:58] <sarnold> delinquentme: just about nothing; /tmp is going to be 1777, sticky bit set, and perhaps other dirs should be the same..
[23:59] <sarnold> sigh, not -mode. stupid brain makes for lousy copy-and-paste :)